Wang Jian Jun - From J-pen To C-pen

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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    / top8tt Wang Jian Jun is a table tennis player from China. He once was a member of the Chinese B team. At that time he was using a j-pen blade. Has beaten Ma Lin, Wang Liqin, Chen Qi... Later in his career his switch to c-pen and play in Europe. Wang Jian Jun has played for Charleroi in Belgium and then for Pontoise in France.
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Комментарии • 91

  • @Top8TT
    @Top8TT  7 лет назад +7

    Due to the summer holiday break, the next video will be uploaded on July 30th. Thank you, everybody!

  • @user-rz2ex6ui2c
    @user-rz2ex6ui2c 2 года назад +6

    超喜歡看王建軍打球~
    直拍全場跳躍奔跑.
    套一句廣告台詞.他就是,~
    勁量電池.永遠不會累,!
    只可惜他與馬琳的決賽.
    被超大逆轉而敗北...

  • @citylidamj8898
    @citylidamj8898 4 года назад +20

    0:30 Ryu ‘s iconic move!

    • @jrk1666
      @jrk1666 4 года назад

      he was trained to mimic ryu as much as possible so the chinese players players could have practice against him

    • @yeagerist977
      @yeagerist977 3 года назад

      @@jrk1666 lmfao no don’t talk from your ass and spread wrong info

  • @bennypan2007
    @bennypan2007 5 лет назад +15

    What makes him one of the kind is his amazing footwork, probably on par with RSM.

  • @speedytabletennis6985
    @speedytabletennis6985 7 лет назад +12

    Wang Jian Jun used c-pen first, but switched to j-pen for some years to imitate Ryu Seung Min in training after he won the Olympics. Later, he switched back to the chinese style

    • @aarontian4168
      @aarontian4168 7 лет назад +1

      是的。不过王建军的打法和特点确实有点像韩国日选手。他是我非常喜欢的一个球手,也曾经打进过全国锦标赛男单决赛,要知道中国全国锦标赛的技术水平不会比世锦赛差。

    • @zim-chan
      @zim-chan 7 лет назад +1

      王建军跑得是最快的。

  • @AshPhoenix
    @AshPhoenix 7 лет назад +43

    He's a Ryu clone for CNT

  • @zhouxinghan6986
    @zhouxinghan6986 4 года назад +3

    Wang was originally a cpen player, and was asked to be the RSM clone for CNT, so he switched. Also, he almost won against Ma Lin in the CNT Trials, which was to decide who goes to the WTTC. He was leading 10-3, but lost the game. After many years, he switched back because he no longer needs to be the RSM clone.

  • @pianotrainee9314
    @pianotrainee9314 7 лет назад +18

    4:15
    That was purely cold-blooded shot

    • @-danR
      @-danR 7 лет назад +7

      And 2:05. It illustrates my claim that traditional one-side is quite suitable for bh attack. They just stopped developing it.

    • @pianotrainee9314
      @pianotrainee9314 7 лет назад +2

      tubeist- dan Yes, very powerful backhand, though I'd say it can be really hard to use such type of bh attack consistently - the wrist motion is so uneasy

    • @-danR
      @-danR 7 лет назад +3

      I agree it can be difficult for the wrist of players of Wang's height, but even there, what a _stunning_ shot is possible. I played in the 70's when there were lots of penholders, and saw such shots; but very few of them then, and fewer now, actually train to amplify and perfect the bh as a deadly point-winner.
      For Ryu, taller, the shot is quite easy, but neither did he want to work on it. It is in the blood for a trad. ph to look for the forehand shot. People and coaches just have to change their thinking.

  • @Soper79
    @Soper79 7 лет назад +18

    Pretty awesome to watch. He still plays like a single sided penholder though IMO. Even with cpen.

  • @themauritian421
    @themauritian421 6 лет назад +20

    4:30 thug life

  • @telmoulyssea3701
    @telmoulyssea3701 7 лет назад +3

    Sensacional !!!!!! O cara é fera, muito bom, tem um backhand forte e seguro além do seu jogo ser bem ofensivo e consistente, é difícil ver um asiático com a pegada caneta, é do mesmo jeito que eu jogo... vou me espelhar nesse cara, é muito bom,.. gostaria de receber mais vídeos dele e usá-los como fonte de pesquisa e treino...

    • @kine-tabletennisedits
      @kine-tabletennisedits Год назад +2

      Se quiser usar de pesquisa de treino o estilo caneta chinesa (classineta no Brasil) recomendo também usar de pesquisa o Xu Xin, MA Lin e Wang Hao, e se for o caneta japonesa (tradicional) Kim Taek Soo, Cazuo Matsumoto e Ryu Seung Min

  • @emc8564
    @emc8564 4 года назад +3

    this guy has very good footwork. i honestly prefer his Jpen

  • @ijnkongo25
    @ijnkongo25 5 лет назад +1

    He could be something is he was not be trained as a clone of Ryu for coaching ML, WH at the time etc by CNT... But I do have to say his Jpen experience makes his games really fun to watch

  • @guyincognito8655
    @guyincognito8655 7 лет назад +8

    Hey man love your work. I think you should do a tribute to will bayley next and give the para game some recognition. Love the video btw keep up the good work!!

    • @Top8TT
      @Top8TT  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you for a suggestion and for watching!

  • @injuredoldtabletennisplaye7001
    @injuredoldtabletennisplaye7001 7 лет назад

    Great job. I subscribed today. He exemplifies the saying "speed kills". Like the way he mixes traditional penhold backhand and rpb.

  • @Teluric2
    @Teluric2 4 года назад +1

    now he s coaching CNT juniors

  • @safak3228
    @safak3228 3 года назад

    Absolute legend

  • @victornoboru
    @victornoboru 7 лет назад +2

    Cpen but not much RPB. An amusing player, tho! Gotta love penholders!

  • @binbinshao1575
    @binbinshao1575 6 лет назад +1

    the title is wrong
    wang jianjun is from c-pen to j-pen then go back to c-pen

  • @yong-haotan6576
    @yong-haotan6576 7 лет назад +5

    Thank you 8TT for introducing such a player. Why Wang switch to C-pen?

    • @reinaldopessoa2603
      @reinaldopessoa2603 7 лет назад +1

      Yong-Hao Tan so he can perform RPB.

    • @zim-chan
      @zim-chan 7 лет назад +1

      He was C-pen player originally. He switched to J-pen for being Ryu clone for CNT.

    • @reinaldopessoa2603
      @reinaldopessoa2603 7 лет назад

      龙梓焱 nice

    • @Hin-yi6gw
      @Hin-yi6gw 7 лет назад +6

      Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin
      take a look in the following video
      ruclips.net/video/XJAHC5UGdes/видео.html

    • @josart699
      @josart699 6 лет назад

      Hin5525 m

  • @tomlone1140
    @tomlone1140 4 года назад +2

    All he needed was a chance to play in the international games.

  • @gustavoc6812
    @gustavoc6812 7 лет назад +11

    good idea! I don't see him for a while. is he still active?

    • @Symbianlover123
      @Symbianlover123 7 лет назад

      no

    • @-danR
      @-danR 7 лет назад

      Yes, he's still playing, but his ranking is well out of the top 100 now.

  • @brahms008
    @brahms008 7 лет назад

    Nice player this WJJ !
    Thx for the vid !

  • @FormostPanda
    @FormostPanda 5 лет назад

    It sure helps to have great foot work. I would call it reverse c-pen. Like Ma Lin, he sometimes resorts to a reverse shot.

    • @williamvo4973
      @williamvo4973 4 года назад

      You mean the Traditional Penhold Backhand?

  • @user-se1cy5wv6i
    @user-se1cy5wv6i 7 лет назад +8

    好可惜,王建軍和柳承敏從沒有對上,否則一定很精彩。

  • @junstabletennisclub7226
    @junstabletennisclub7226 6 лет назад

    I like his playing~

  • @user-zt7mw2ob2l
    @user-zt7mw2ob2l 2 года назад

    Hitting sound is good

  • @gopositivelee3639
    @gopositivelee3639 2 года назад

    잔발 최고다

  • @duckgoduckgo
    @duckgoduckgo 7 лет назад

    i cant believe i only knew him now

  • @christophgrambach2832
    @christophgrambach2832 7 лет назад +3

    genius player, but i don understand,what the differnece in the theme? can anybody help me to understand? TY

    • @chesterjar1505
      @chesterjar1505 7 лет назад +5

      Christoph Grambach He's using a Japanese style blade with the traditional backhand in the first part of the video. In the second part, he's using a Chinese style blade with rubber on both sides, so he can perform RPB (Reverse Penhold Backhand).

    • @christophgrambach2832
      @christophgrambach2832 7 лет назад

      ah ,ok i get it :), many thanks

    • @Hin-yi6gw
      @Hin-yi6gw 7 лет назад +1

      I don't understand what makes people think Jpen can't perform RPB, Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin
      take a look at the following video
      ruclips.net/video/XJAHC5UGdes/видео.html

    • @ijnkongo25
      @ijnkongo25 5 лет назад +1

      @@Hin-yi6gw Jpen paddle is quite thick and big so it is not as agile as Cpen in changing hand gestures.

    • @Hin-yi6gw
      @Hin-yi6gw 5 лет назад

      Yes, it is not as agile as Cpen, but for a different reason. When having rubber on the RPB side on Jpen, we still rest the fingers on the blade, not on the rubber. And consider we usually rest our fingers on the rubber on Cpen, the total thicknesses are about the same. Also, Jpen are generally taller but also narrower, so the size is about the same. The main difference is that the center of mass is more towards the end of the bat on Jpen, and that's what makes the Jpen not as flexible as Cpen and harder to stabilise the bat angle.

  • @gustavoleal8112
    @gustavoleal8112 6 лет назад +1

    Jugaba mejor cuando era un pen hold clásico. 😔

  • @aaronjones-eg2qd
    @aaronjones-eg2qd 7 лет назад

    Can you do koki niwa?

  • @tm6134
    @tm6134 5 лет назад +2

    中国選手で日ペンは珍しいね。
    今じゃあ、まず見ないタイプの選手かなー

  • @user-mq2ld2nm1l
    @user-mq2ld2nm1l 5 лет назад

    왕지엔준을 응원합니다

  • @keineahnung1978
    @keineahnung1978 7 лет назад

    which c-pen blade + rubber?

    • @wingtolau6553
      @wingtolau6553 7 лет назад

      C-pen has the shortest of all blade handles but the blade is round just like a shake hand blade. Some penholders put another rubber with different color (by rule) to the other side for reverse penhold backhand (RPB) playing style to upgrade/improve/reinforce their backhand performance.

    • @Poseidon99Jeus
      @Poseidon99Jeus 6 лет назад

      Hannes Mühlenbecker yourwifeonme brand, go get them

  • @user-my2pv3ob5l
    @user-my2pv3ob5l 6 лет назад

    i am try

  • @131T3M3
    @131T3M3 5 лет назад +3

    I see a single RPB.

    • @justaworm605
      @justaworm605 5 лет назад +1

      Didn't know blind people could watched youtube

  • @user-eo8lc5du3k
    @user-eo8lc5du3k Год назад

    王子手感唔好之出奇

  • @do7412
    @do7412 7 лет назад +1

    この方の最高世界ランクは何位ですか?

    • @kaizhangtabletennis
      @kaizhangtabletennis 7 лет назад +2

      世界のステージで出るチャンスがなかったと思います。まぁ、中国人だから、しょうがないですよね。(日本語が悪い、ごめん)。

    • @do7412
      @do7412 7 лет назад +2

      Kai Zhang 大丈夫です👍ちゃんと理解できました!

    • @bsbyaa
      @bsbyaa 7 лет назад

      da wn 中国の選手のため、韓国の柳承敏ryu seung minを真似るから、国際試合が出なかった。

    • @kaizhangtabletennis
      @kaizhangtabletennis 7 лет назад

      そうです。王選手はそのため、Bチームに入りました。ちなみに、Bチームのメンバーは国際試合が出ません。

    • @kaizhangtabletennis
      @kaizhangtabletennis 7 лет назад

      平成18年、全国大会のファイナルで出ました。馬琳選手に倒したけど。

  • @kadaya1102
    @kadaya1102 Год назад +1

    極權體制底下誕生的影子球員,可悲可嘆…但他甘願犧牲自己、模仿韓國選手打法,成為主力的靶子對手,還是該給予敬佩

  • @christianadriananiceta2753
    @christianadriananiceta2753 7 лет назад +13

    They should create a separate league with celluloid balls and speed glue...

  • @gustavoleal2469
    @gustavoleal2469 5 лет назад

    Wanj Jian cambió su técnica de revés, pasó paso del clásico, como Kim Taek, a hacerlo como Wang Hao. Qué lástima!

  • @makskondr5139
    @makskondr5139 7 лет назад

    ......

  • @user-nn2bu5ki9n
    @user-nn2bu5ki9n 6 лет назад +1

    中国だからこれだけの実力持った選手になったんだが、同時に中国選手だったから国際大会には出れず。
    何とも惜しい。
    多分だが若いころのニッペンの時 (ユスンミン選手のコピー選手時代) が一番強かったんだろうな。