Jim Cornette Talks About Dave Meltzer's Recent Comments About Him

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  • @dx91mike
    @dx91mike 2 года назад +23

    This was the beginning of the end of Meltzer and Cornette friendship.

  • @dmmorrow20
    @dmmorrow20 Год назад +11

    Its crazy to listen to the in 2023 and hear Jim say he liked the Young Bucks personally at any point!!

  • @NexebNoXV
    @NexebNoXV 7 лет назад +84

    "Couldn't whip cream with an outboard motor" is definitely my new favorite Corny-ism

    • @NexebNoXV
      @NexebNoXV 7 лет назад +3

      I don't mind "flippy shit" or (most) comedy wrestling, (I didn't mind the lollipop thing) but fuck the Joey Ryan dick suplex. Just fuck that spot. I hate it.
      Also I think putting a comedy wrestler like Joey Ryan in the ring with a genuine guy is fucking stupid. Joey Ryan vs. a guy like Colt Cabana or Grado is fine (hell, I'd watch either of those matches right now), but putting him against Primate and having the match be anything short of a literal mauling is fucking childish.
      That said, I've heard interviews with him and it seems like he actually does have respect for the business and could become a legit wrestler if he cared to put the time in, so the fact that he chooses to do this stupid gimmick is baffling.

  • @xxrocketshark216xx4
    @xxrocketshark216xx4 2 года назад +10

    This aged like fine wine

  • @vitolopoii7981
    @vitolopoii7981 4 года назад +22

    Dave Meltzer is just as credible as someone who believes that jazz hands could actually beat up someone in real life

  • @thomasdr08
    @thomasdr08 6 лет назад +38

    “Boiled in oil and have his fat sold for soap”
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Hey yooooo!

  • @brandons6167
    @brandons6167 4 года назад +46

    What happened to the Dave Meltzer from "Wrestling with Shadows" who scoffed at the idea of a diaper match?

    • @Amy-cu1qn
      @Amy-cu1qn 4 года назад +3

      Great point I had forgotten about that

    • @ChronicTHCBlaze
      @ChronicTHCBlaze 4 года назад +2

      Wow

    • @ethanwilkins662
      @ethanwilkins662 4 года назад +3

      Crazy how that documentary is still on youtube

    • @DefendYoungstown
      @DefendYoungstown 3 года назад +3

      He was kidnapped and murdered by a body double who would love that same match if somebody suggested it in AEW.

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 7 лет назад +34

    I never saw the Dynamite Kid do anything that looked blatantly phony.

  • @DjDaDj3
    @DjDaDj3 6 лет назад +8

    Cornette is on point here. Good stuff.

  • @daoust26
    @daoust26 5 лет назад +28

    I’m on cornette’s side here, you really can’t argue or defend that phony crap against logic

  • @ggallin2011
    @ggallin2011 5 лет назад +27

    Dave Meltzer lives in his mom's basement and eats hot pockets and his boogers

    • @kevinjackson1275
      @kevinjackson1275 5 лет назад +2

      GG Allin I think he has a crush on the young bucks, in a recent clip he described one of them as “cute”

    • @andrewnyman4128
      @andrewnyman4128 4 года назад +1

      Thank you sir. I needed that

    • @Justme42yay
      @Justme42yay 4 года назад +2

      Hey leave hot pockets out of it

    • @StarlightEater
      @StarlightEater 3 года назад +1

      You ever hear those old recordings where his mother is in the background? Its comedy gold.

    • @NewWorldCT
      @NewWorldCT Год назад

      facts

  • @TheEvilHumanist
    @TheEvilHumanist 7 лет назад +12

    Dave is a "smart" mark. He knows everything about the wrestling business except for what it takes to be successful and help it flourish.

  • @jeffreyloskoskill4901
    @jeffreyloskoskill4901 2 года назад +4

    Why do people hang onto every one of Diamond Dave Meltzer's words like it came down from the heavens?

  • @lionheart1867
    @lionheart1867 5 лет назад +24

    I tried to watch Ring of Honor recently and was extremely disappointed. It just looked like choreography and gymnastics, not wrestling.

    • @junegiovanni6475
      @junegiovanni6475 5 лет назад +5

      Yup true,
      just spot fest and flips everywhere, No selling, No in ring Physiology, they don't tell stories in the ring anymore, slow pace and No technical wrestling, just highspots and spot fest. The best wrestling to me right now Is NXT and NXT/UK, NJPW)

  • @williamhild1793
    @williamhild1793 5 лет назад +12

    At this point, every Joey Ryan wrestling match is just a vanity project for him.

  • @paslotplayer
    @paslotplayer 7 лет назад +13

    You know. There's no point in putting a child in a wrestling spot.
    They aren't trained. If the child is injured, the promotion is sued.

    • @vitolopoii7981
      @vitolopoii7981 4 года назад +2

      The whole roster are children at the mudshows

  • @pumpkinsdontcry
    @pumpkinsdontcry 6 лет назад +17

    meltzer is a mark and charges ppl for rumors and sometimrs totally made up stories.

  • @DannyFlorioNYC
    @DannyFlorioNYC 7 лет назад +11

    Jim speaks nothing, but truth

  • @megsley
    @megsley Год назад +3

    this might be the most complimentary corny was ever to Omega and the Bucks 😂

  • @travisw3131
    @travisw3131 7 лет назад +35

    No, Jim Cornette and Dave Meltzer can't be fighting, i have the wrestling gold collection both did commentary for years ago, my opinion it's still the best wrestling collection out there.

    • @KennyBolinStarMaker
      @KennyBolinStarMaker 7 лет назад +1

      i will do what i always do with cornette and save one more relationship that has gone south for him.

    • @travisw3131
      @travisw3131 7 лет назад

      +Kenny Bolin the Russo thing didn't workout like you thought it would but people actually want this mix up resolved so best of luck to you Starmaker.

    • @williandalsoto806
      @williandalsoto806 7 лет назад +1

      Alex's take is correct.

    • @nohbuddy1
      @nohbuddy1 7 лет назад

      Travis W They argued over Lucha Underground

    • @travisw3131
      @travisw3131 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah but that wasn't really a argument, they disagreed but it wasn't anything major, Bryan and Dave brought up points and Cornette basically said "yeah but it still sucks" but in a nice away especially by Cornette standards.

  • @xoynialedmcesoentill6034
    @xoynialedmcesoentill6034 5 лет назад +18

    If Meltzer says bad about Cornette for being biased, tell him to look in the mirror. Meltzer give 5+ star opinions on his Indy and japan matches if they include Kenny Omega, the Young Bucks, etc lol.

    • @Tizontheska
      @Tizontheska 5 лет назад +1

      Ok but did you watch the matches?

    • @michaelriley8879
      @michaelriley8879 5 лет назад +2

      Lol, Dave loves AEW. Peter Dinklage is too tall for that roster.

    • @colonelkenpachi5009
      @colonelkenpachi5009 5 лет назад +1

      @@Tizontheska I have seen those matches they are not 5 star matches.

    • @mattb.2740
      @mattb.2740 5 лет назад +4

      He gave 5 stars to Golden Lovers vs Young Bucks and that was a complete botchfest. That killed any legitimacy in Meltzer's ratings.

  • @abdokabany4807
    @abdokabany4807 2 месяца назад +3

    19:35 Brian was right all along.

  • @_partytimeleojohnson8845
    @_partytimeleojohnson8845 7 лет назад +6

    if you're watching pwg ask yourself " What would Ole say ?" lol

    • @cgip1340
      @cgip1340 3 года назад

      Prolly the n word

  • @fuscinula
    @fuscinula 6 лет назад +8

    Well, Meltzer invented a 6 star rating for the sole purpose of showcasing Omega even harder...

    • @michaelriley8879
      @michaelriley8879 5 лет назад +2

      Baron Corbin is more over than Omega

    • @emilianosanabria836
      @emilianosanabria836 3 года назад

      If I'm not mistaken, ric flair vs steamboat 2 had already been given 6 stars and is considered the best fight in history by many; misawa vs kawada 1993

    • @astuteandy
      @astuteandy 3 месяца назад

      ​@@emilianosanabria836 You are mistaken.

  • @wkmac2
    @wkmac2 5 лет назад +5

    I just went and searched Joey Ryan and this "manly parts" toss as up till now never heard of or for that matter seen it. If that is what passes as wrestling today, glad I stopped watching wrestling around 1990'. But then this "manly parts" toss makes the silly crap sold as wrestling in 1990 seem like the best of the best of classic wrestling. I was willing to accept that Corney's claim that wrestling is dead could be subjective but now I think Corney is being very objective in his proclamations.

  • @youthgonewild2490
    @youthgonewild2490 7 лет назад +2

    Cornette is right. These guys wrestle in front of 300 fans. He's in it to make money.

    • @RenegadeY
      @RenegadeY 7 лет назад

      Youth Gone Wild joey ryan, makes great money because the fans like him and he sells merch hand over fist

    • @youthgonewild2490
      @youthgonewild2490 7 лет назад

      Define great money? No way he makes over a $100K a year. Sells merch hand over fist? I'm sure Amazon is shipping thousands of his shirts a day. You're delusional.

  • @Beans981
    @Beans981 Год назад +1

    This shit has really been going on for 5 long years. Good lord how do these dudes still get booked.

  • @SSJ2Phenom
    @SSJ2Phenom 2 года назад +2

    Did he say Chuck Taylor looks like he couldn't whip cream with an out-board motor? Holy hell.
    CAUTION: DO NOT LISTEN TO A CORNY RANT WHILE DRIVING......

    • @nathantturnert1631
      @nathantturnert1631 2 года назад +1

      U ever make it home safe?

    • @SSJ2Phenom
      @SSJ2Phenom 2 года назад +1

      @@nathantturnert1631 Yes. Finally! Not only was it unsafe to drive while listening to this because of laughter. It was also unsafe because it was so funny that I nearly choked on my chilli dog from laughing, which almost caused me to wreck, which then forced me to pull over and calm down. Plus, I was laughing so hard that my eyes were watering.
      Yep, just whatever you do, don't listen to a Corny rant while either driving, eating, drinking, operating heavy machinery, before, during, or after sex. The results could be catastrophic. Heed my warning.
      ✌🏽

    • @nathantturnert1631
      @nathantturnert1631 2 года назад +1

      @@SSJ2Phenom Haha good to know man. And thanks I'll take that advice for sure. Never know when he'll crack you up. Take care

    • @SSJ2Phenom
      @SSJ2Phenom 2 года назад +1

      @@nathantturnert1631 You too man.

  • @tankwfw
    @tankwfw 5 лет назад +4

    Bottom line, no wrestler is above the business. There is a place for comedy wrestling, but you cannot portray yourself as a comedy wrestler one day and then as a serious wrestler the next. That being said, the wrestling business is already exposed. That cat is out of the bag.

  • @Booth81
    @Booth81 5 лет назад +6

    I think Jim should check out NXT UK sometime. There's a lot less of the flippy stuff (compared to other shows), more emphasis on impact and realism, and the crowd's way more into the matches. Oh, and Walter, of course.
    I've never been 100% on board the hype train for Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks, and I have to be in a special mood to sit through a whole NJPW show. It's not that I don't like it, it's just a lot to take in through one sitting.

    • @junegiovanni6475
      @junegiovanni6475 5 лет назад +3

      I agree, also NXT & NXTUK they have actual wrestling, they tell stories in the ring and they do in ring Physiology, and they sell. It's okay to have highspots but like 10 in one match...Just 3 is okay that goes with the match...not spot fest. Nxt and NXTuk are legit great wrestling, it has everything, techical wrestling, amature wrestling, Strong style, realism.

  • @StarCityAudits
    @StarCityAudits 7 лет назад +9

    So relieved to hear Cornette not walking anything backwards despite his respect for Meltzer.
    With that being said, it is my opinion that has so much love for Meltzer because Corny was one of Meltzer's sources through the years and therefore can't very well bury Meltzer because it would make Corny look like a goof if it were to ever be confirmed that he was a source. I also think Bruce Prichard was/is one of Meltzer's sources.

    • @85nxplosion
      @85nxplosion Год назад

      Fast forward a couple of years and Meltzer and Cornette had a falling out because Meltzer is too infatuated over the Elite, the piece of shit known as Kenny Olivier, and think their style of wrestling is the greatest thing known to all that is man 🤦‍♂️.

    • @thecatwrangler9448
      @thecatwrangler9448 7 месяцев назад

      Well well well, look how the turn tables have turntabled. Do you still think Cornette is trying to protect himself or something?

  • @KutuluMike
    @KutuluMike 7 лет назад +5

    Jim has a point, to an extent, with some of the blatant stupidity that happens on indie wrestling; Joey Ryan's spots are embarassing, and some of the comedy stuff that PWG puts into their otherwise "legit" matchs is way over the top.
    But, Jim also acts like it's impossible to have an intentionally "fake" wrestling match. Kenny Omega "wrestling" a girl isn't destroying the wrestling business any more than the Harlem Globetrotters destroyed basketball, or martial arts exhibitions destroy MMA. When everyone involved goes into the match openly acknowledging that you're about to watch an *exhibition*, where Omega is going to put on a show match vs. a girl or a doll not because he wants to pretend he's fighting a girl, but because he wants to show off his (and her) skills, I don't see why that's a problem.

  • @jonalbertson10270
    @jonalbertson10270 4 года назад +2

    I decided to call “Uncle Dave” out his B/S on Twitter... And I’ll be... I won the Pony. He blocked me.....

    • @85nxplosion
      @85nxplosion Год назад

      Me too and a whole host of anyone who hates the young fucks and Olivier

  • @krazyeman4
    @krazyeman4 4 года назад +1

    At first I thought this was before he discovered Omega vs a child because he was a lot nicer here than some of his recent thoughts lol

  • @SimpleManGuitars1973
    @SimpleManGuitars1973 7 лет назад +6

    To "not understand" why people like the Ultimate Warrior is pretty stupid. He was entertaining. He was fun to watch. He brought a ton of energy. Just to name a few. If you were a kid then that was what wrestling was about. That's why people were fans of him.

  • @MC-Podunk
    @MC-Podunk 6 лет назад +1

    Look at meltzer's office. Jesus christ what a mess.

  • @darrengordon-hill
    @darrengordon-hill 3 года назад

    Meltzer, Cornette and "recent"; best RUclips search ever

  • @kierenbuckley370
    @kierenbuckley370 7 лет назад +1

    oh and wwe having someone dressed up as a bear on a child's trike going into a match is more accessible than a PWG show? I don't understand that logic

  • @paulmiller7838
    @paulmiller7838 7 лет назад +2

    1. Thank you for calling out the Bucks of Youth and their "super" kick which they have to do 7 - 8 times per match. Real f-in super.
    2. If Wayne Rooney can keep a United contract then I have to say just about anyone can play for them.

  • @TheTaterTotP80
    @TheTaterTotP80 6 лет назад +1

    What was the issue with Dynamite vs Tiger?

  • @Riese79
    @Riese79 Год назад

    Maybe It was the Holy Grenade from Monty Python?

  • @raspymorten
    @raspymorten 7 лет назад +3

    I perfectly called it when Jim was gonna say "He did these things in a 100% comedy promotion years ago. So he's horrible"
    ... Does Jim know that Kenny wasn't the DDT booker?
    Cause he wasn't.... He didn't book the matches... He was told to wrestle the little girl and the blow up doll....

    • @arv216
      @arv216 6 лет назад

      raspymorten He also said that wrestlers have an obligation not to do stupid shit like that, wrestling little girls and blow up dolls is idiotic.

    • @raspymorten
      @raspymorten 6 лет назад +1

      adrian vergara And? Once again, should you seriously condemn Omega's entire career because he wrestled comedy matches?
      Cornette legit said he should be exiled from the business because he wrestled comedy matches in a comedy promotion. That's insanely fucking stupid.

    • @arv216
      @arv216 6 лет назад

      raspymorten Never said Kenny Omega should leave the business because of that, just telling you that Cornette said that wrestlers also have choices when it comes down to what goes on in the ring as well. Kenny is not half bad in the ring, I think he's just too used to that fast paced style that younger wrestlers like to do now a days. Except Joey Ryan, Cornette is 100% right, he's a piece of shit in the ring and needs to go lol

    • @raspymorten
      @raspymorten 6 лет назад

      I'm not saying you did.
      It's exactly what Cornette said.
      >Cornette said that wrestlers also have choices when it comes down to what goes on in the ring as well.
      And? Should relative newcomer at the time Kenny Omega start acting like a jackass that was "too good for this comedy crap"? Yeah, that would've let him go far. Demanding to wrestle serious matches in the comedy promotion would've made the owners just fall to their knees and start sucking his dick.
      >I think he's just too used to that fast paced style that younger wrestlers like to do now a days
      ...What, should he start doing 50 headlocks and arm drags every match because he's "Too used to the style"?
      Should D-Bry start pulling out Lucha Libre moves because he's "too used" to mat grappling?
      >Except Joey Ryan, Cornette is 100% right, he's a piece of shit in the ring
      Why? Cause he does some comedy spots in his matches to pop the crowd?

    • @michaelriley8879
      @michaelriley8879 5 лет назад +1

      If they told him to murder a fan, would that be excusable too?

  • @ragingbeast04
    @ragingbeast04 7 лет назад +1

    We're all entitled to our opinions

  • @roymauler
    @roymauler Год назад +1

    This didn't age well. 😆😂

  • @travisw3131
    @travisw3131 7 лет назад +1

    this should be like the Cornette/Bolin great debate.

  • @JS-lo8hr
    @JS-lo8hr 6 лет назад

    PWG isnt pro wrestling because they willfully turn down potential ticket sales by booking that same bingo hall. if they arent working, what the fuck are they doing?

  • @mavallor
    @mavallor 2 месяца назад

    Joey Ryan “Superheroes aren’t real”
    Yeah and I guarantee if Hollywood writers made Batman or Ironman do something insanely stupid the fans outrage would be immense so that’s a terrible example

  • @Kshep84
    @Kshep84 5 лет назад +1

    VIVA CORNETTE

    • @Kshep84
      @Kshep84 5 лет назад

      The young bucks superkicked a nine year old kid for his birthday??? What in the fuck

  • @melbias5046
    @melbias5046 7 лет назад +2

    meltzer roles with it because if he doesnt he's out of a job, thats why he's moaning.

  • @J-Nigma
    @J-Nigma 7 лет назад +7

    I love how the internet turned all these old wrestling dudes in to highschoolers. lol.
    I like Jim. I just find it hilarious how everyone is always feuding with everyone when 20 years ago a lot of these guys would have been friends with some rare exceptions.

  • @n0m4nic
    @n0m4nic 7 лет назад +1

    After all this hubub about the grenade spot, I have to ask. Is there a way to get Cornette to watch the IWRG ladder match from a couple years ago? The one with LA Park, Doc Wagner Jr, Alberto Del Rio's brother, Pirata Morgan, Mascara Sagrada and the fattest clown to ever get rolled into a wrestling ring? I am positive that would be the best 40 minutes ever put on a stream

  • @Carelock
    @Carelock 6 лет назад +1

    Meltzer went nuts bc it’s how he makes a living. He has to prop up these shitty outlaw promotions to have fodder for his newsletter. Pretty much everyone I know who is still a fan watches WWE, TNA, Lucha Undrground, the new NWA, etc and just complains how it sucks. Classic wrestling is pretty much all I watch. Fucking invisible hand grenades. 3 Stooges antics. I can’t watch that shit either.

  • @junegiovanni6475
    @junegiovanni6475 5 лет назад +2

    Jim Cornette would be a NXT and NXTUK and NWA guy, he would enjoy that kind of wrestling, they tell actual stories in the ring and use in ring Phyisology, and they do what is missing today in pro wrestling they sell, they have everything great storytelling, Technical wrestling, amature wrestling, strong style, some MMA influences, and great promos, and some Highspots. They don't over do it with the spot fests....they do it only twice or 3 times in one night.

  • @frankiebflat5728
    @frankiebflat5728 6 лет назад +1

    The Corn knows

  • @joshconners9031
    @joshconners9031 5 лет назад +1

    Wow....Jim must REALLY hate Kenny Omega's chainsaw spot. Where he supposedly shaves his forearms a couple days before a match, so just hard stubble grows back & he rakes it across an opponent's eyes.

    • @nickhughes8179
      @nickhughes8179 Год назад

      I saw that spot complete with Olivier’s extremely constipated butt plug faces. It was stupid.

  • @stevebrewster5341
    @stevebrewster5341 7 лет назад +1

    love listening to cornette talk

  • @AnthonyShuker
    @AnthonyShuker 7 лет назад +2

    the crowd like the spots, they're the real critics

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 7 лет назад +2

    Keep in mind that, just because it's happening now, doesn't mean it's good.

    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 7 лет назад +2

      Don't most people usually think the opposite, that what's happening now sucks compared to the past?

    • @theclawyaww3740
      @theclawyaww3740 7 лет назад +1

      Jeffrey Riley yep WWE is so awful right now its stupid

    • @jeffreyriley8742
      @jeffreyriley8742 7 лет назад

      Most people go with the flow, I think. The people who defend the present are usually the ones making money/profiting in other ways off it.

    • @RenegadeY
      @RenegadeY 7 лет назад

      Jeffrey Riley you really dont think that people are defending it cause its what they genuinely enjoy?

    • @jeffreyriley8742
      @jeffreyriley8742 7 лет назад

      I'm very happy for them if they enjoy it because it's what's happening.

  • @turtlehead2
    @turtlehead2 7 лет назад

    Chuck Taylor slow Motion spot is the best thing I've seen in wrestling. Much better than beach ball mania. Look it up. It's awesome

  • @markbarrow2082
    @markbarrow2082 3 месяца назад

    Now he can't stand the ground the young bucks walk on or the air the hardly boyz breathe

  • @whiteandrew1986
    @whiteandrew1986 7 лет назад +1

    Corny can be a fraction all over the place. He's one of the biggest Marks for Terry Funk. Yet Terry has been involved in either ridiculous voilent high spots. or silly comedy spots over the years. yet corny seems to give the funker a pass. but I agree with him on Omegas facials etc. Its just uncomfortable to watch... The best have managed to walk that fine line. Again the funker is known for over the top antics. but when I watch Funk it just makes me smile, I love it.

    • @theclawyaww3740
      @theclawyaww3740 7 лет назад

      Andrew White ai think one reason for Omegas facial reaction(even though he dosent do then that much anymore) is because since he cant express himself with words he has to show the japanese fans how he feels

  • @thedude4672
    @thedude4672 7 лет назад +1

    Didn't know what the invisible grenade was. Googled it and watched one. It is probably the dumbest thing that I've ever seen in wrestling entertainment. The one finger death poke was even more entertaining than that. Why would fans tolerate that BS? So stupid.

  • @scarymcclary
    @scarymcclary 7 лет назад +2

    I saw Joey Ryan vs Grado...you can imagine how that was.

  • @thatdude-xj4qe
    @thatdude-xj4qe 4 года назад

    Didnt Stone Cold ride a bicycle to the ring or something like that one time??

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 3 года назад

      Actually Stone Cold Rode An ATV Undertaker Rode A Motorcycle

  • @canadanionerdo5434
    @canadanionerdo5434 6 лет назад +1

    I like listening to the podcast and what not,but Cronny,it's 2018 wrestling has changed,hell I like to see what he thinks of Charika.

    • @rippleAdder
      @rippleAdder 4 года назад

      Erik S it’s like he forgot Vince himself went on tv and told the world it was fake . He’s funny but totally stuck in late 70s 80s.

  • @jbellflower83
    @jbellflower83 5 лет назад +3

    I may not agree with everything cornette says (though I usually do agree) but I do see what he means about stuff looking too choreographed. Alot of wrestling today looks too choreographed. I watch alot of old school wrestling. Today's wrestling flows better and is aesthetically pleasing but it doesn't have that old school grit that wrestling used to have. When u watched Terry funk and stan Hanson and big van Vader they looked like they were trying to kill you. I like guys today like Daniel bryan and Pete Dunn. I even like omega though he is a little overrated. Okada is the real star of those matches. Okada can slow it down and draw it out. Kenny sometimes goes into hyper mode when he doesn't need too. Osprey does it too sometimes. I just miss wrestlers like the funks, Harley race and dusty Rhodes. Larger then life personas. Wrestling doesn't have that right now outside of okada.

  • @SamuelGates-db3jz
    @SamuelGates-db3jz 5 лет назад +1

    🌽. 🌽, its whats for dinner. More 🌽 please. Long live the 🌽. Pass the 🌽. 🌽, the other other white meat.

  • @WelshOwl1867
    @WelshOwl1867 3 года назад

    Pretty much anyone can play for Manchester United these days

  • @TheTribalgame
    @TheTribalgame 7 лет назад +3

    the organization made kenny do that. he didn't do that on his own. why isn't he burying the company?

  • @Assenayo
    @Assenayo 7 лет назад +1

    The grenade spot started in Chikara

  • @rageforthemachine
    @rageforthemachine 5 лет назад +1

    I wonder what Cornette would think about the Osirian Portal's hypnosis/most illegal thing in wrestling spot. Say what you will it was pretty funny.

    • @tankwfw
      @tankwfw 5 лет назад

      If you want funny wrestling that's fine. But do not mix it with serious

    • @pearcemark2
      @pearcemark2 4 года назад

      @@tankwfw Why not? If you think anyone in 2019 is gonna react to fake ass phony wrestling the way that hilljacks in Kentuckiana did in 1978, you're a complete fucking moron and behind the times.

  • @jaylew8408
    @jaylew8408 3 года назад +1

    Majority of what he's saying is legitimate and makes sense, but getting upset they dropkicked the kid for his birthday in front of people is sorta asinine. Everyone in the world over 10 knows wrestling is staged and fake so if they did a good job of making it seem legit then that shows talent I guess

    • @StephanFitzgeraldTay
      @StephanFitzgeraldTay Год назад

      Doing that slaps it in everyone's faces that pro-wrestling is choreographed. That's Jim's issue. It continues to prevent the suspension of disbelief. If next week, they are supposed to knock someone out with a superkick, it's sorta ruined when the fans can just pull up a video of a kid getting up and walking away from the same move.

  • @jameslott4606
    @jameslott4606 5 лет назад +3

    tell um jim...i dont like kenny omega either..............especially after the blow up doll and the little children which is depravedif i was jim i might be saying maybe i better start picking my friends a little bit more closely

  • @randymarsh6527
    @randymarsh6527 6 лет назад

    Why does everyone have to tiptoe around meltzer.. As soon as someone says something he doesn't agree with he talks shit about them..

  • @WickedNemesis
    @WickedNemesis 7 лет назад +1

    oh boy....

  • @vincewasham1197
    @vincewasham1197 4 года назад

    I watched the clip i can't believe it but the grenade thing is real

  • @lionhearted7450
    @lionhearted7450 2 года назад

    Cornette Classic

  • @FreneticZetetic
    @FreneticZetetic 4 года назад

    Kenny omega is disqualified, lmfao.

  • @85futureshock
    @85futureshock 7 лет назад +2

    I like Jimmy but anyone who uses a ether spot in the 2010's in a promotion like Ring Of Honor and expects fans to buy it is seriously behind the times. What worked in 1970's Tennessee (which had its share of business exposing garbage) won't work with an audience in 2017.

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 7 лет назад +3

    Jim is cruel but fair.

  • @jaserogers997
    @jaserogers997 5 лет назад +1

    #DirtSheet

  • @edromes30
    @edromes30 4 года назад

    I can understand it being stupid. But did the people in attendance have a problem with it? They are catering to a certain audience.

  • @littlesebastian4389
    @littlesebastian4389 7 лет назад

    Meltzer just panders to the fans.

    • @joekidd8878
      @joekidd8878 7 лет назад +2

      In what way? He constantly underrates matches people like and you could say cornette panders to a certain audience.

  • @Chosen1-Eric
    @Chosen1-Eric 7 лет назад +1

    imo its all for publicity..look at the attention they getting. I really believe they friend now..behind the scenes...both cutting gold promos

    • @astuteandy
      @astuteandy 6 месяцев назад

      Well, this didn't age well. 😂

  • @wecoolwecoolbounce5191
    @wecoolwecoolbounce5191 7 лет назад +1

    Also, if I were Dave, the one guy I would not want to debate wrestling with would be Jim. Being IN the business and BLOWING everyone in the business for information are completely different lifestyles.

  • @woodwwad
    @woodwwad 7 лет назад +54

    It has long puzzled me why anyone cares, at all, what Dave Meltzer says. He's just a wrestling fan, not a wrestler.

    • @jordandennis6794
      @jordandennis6794 7 лет назад +1

      Right

    • @thedude4672
      @thedude4672 7 лет назад +17

      Because he's been running an influential publication that's widely read and well-respected for longer than most fans have been alive. Duh.

    • @cmcmurtry911
      @cmcmurtry911 7 лет назад

      Bingo.

    • @pikkon899
      @pikkon899 7 лет назад +8

      Only the smarks care about what he has to say. Meltzer comes off like such an asshole, know it all on most of his publications. Meltzer defends the stupidity of the Kenny Omega character but he crapped all over The Undertaker vs Underfaker angle for the same kind of stupidity.

    • @d.carpenter7519
      @d.carpenter7519 7 лет назад +5

      NO such thing as a smark. The term smark was made up by marks who think they know better than other marks. Even if the term smark was real, it died with the invention of the internet.

  • @w.d.hilton6383
    @w.d.hilton6383 Год назад

    Holy shit i forgot i got to see Tiger mask vs Mr.w2 in tulsa thank you for jogging my memory

  • @kevinjackson1275
    @kevinjackson1275 7 лет назад +4

    Poor Uncle Dave! :''0

  • @rickpowers3677
    @rickpowers3677 7 лет назад +2

    I disagree with Cornette about everyone looking stupid at the comedy club because Keith Richards or whatever the Hell his name is that Seinfeld dude using the n-word. While I agree often when it comes to wrestling with Cornette I disagree with his collective mindset.

  • @zumzum74
    @zumzum74 6 лет назад

    Jim agrees that wrestling is subjective and in the next 2 minutes says that he doesn't like Kenny Omega because of "the stupid shit he did in wrestling" with zero fucking sense of irony.

  • @brucewhite360
    @brucewhite360 2 года назад +1

    🤓🎾

  • @Boyetto-san
    @Boyetto-san 7 лет назад +1

    I respect Jim's opinion and insight on a lot of things, and I even get what he says when he talked about underdeveloped talents resorting to flippy moves without developing the basics. There's definite nuance in some of what he says, but the problem is that he throws a lot of that nuance out the window arbitrarily. He can be rather inconsistent with himself and where he allows compromises with his opinions. The way he insists on maintaining some sort of "reputation" for the wrestling business, and the way he insists that comedy wrestling and flippy wrestling aren't evolutions of the sport, it all just feels way outdated and out of touch, as much as he may have a few good points about them.
    I think the key issue around this whole debate is really the question of whether kayfabe is dead, whether it should stay dead, or whether it should continue to cling on for dear life in today's wrestling scene. The way I see it, unironic kayfabe can still have its place in some storylines. But the days in which it was treated as a protected concept and universal standard of work ethic for wrestling is long gone, and in its place we have the more flexible concept of suspension of disbelief. Audiences don't just mark themselves out wholesale to the entirety of wrestling these days. They're able to actually think for themselves and choose where their own suspension of disbelief is being stetched too far or not, and that's just something Jim never gives enough wrestling fans (even casual fans) credit for. All this demonization of Kenny Omega's early work in DDT, or the Young Bucks' superkicks, or Joey Ryan's comedy wrestling. All of Jim's arguments about those would be moot points if he could just comprehend the way suspension of disbelief applies these days in wrestling, over traditional kayfabe.

  • @xoynialedmcesoentill6034
    @xoynialedmcesoentill6034 5 лет назад

    I'm guessing that Dave Meltzer didn't show up on Jim's show.

    • @Johnny_from_RI
      @Johnny_from_RI 5 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/GOZZF5XlWQU/видео.html

    • @michaelriley8879
      @michaelriley8879 5 лет назад

      So Dave Meltzer, a tabloid writer, bigtimed Jim Cornette? Lol fuck off

  • @dfdgfdgf0000
    @dfdgfdgf0000 5 лет назад +2

    I'm glad guns are legal in usa otherwise Jim Cornette would not be allows to talk and we wouldn't be enjoying his podcast !

  • @KyotoSonata
    @KyotoSonata 7 лет назад

    Ryan doesn't think somebody can be knocked out by a Tennis Racket? Let Cornette test that out on him so we can see who is right

  • @Matt-cr4vv
    @Matt-cr4vv Год назад

    I don’t like todays style and thus I don’t watch it. It doesn’t really bother me to expose the business or what not just because to me I think it’s pretty clear that people know what wrestling is now. That said I agree that a believable product is better to watch than what the modern guys do now but I guess I just gave up on being a fan who follows the product regularly again unfortunately. It seems wrestling as a whole has passed me by for the most part and that kinda stinks. But I don’t think the Bucks or Kenny were ever the same level of embarrassing as Joey Ryan was. The Bucks and Kenny were always more so just not my style over making me ashamed of wrestling I guess.
    Joey Ryan on the other hand I just never understood. For the Bucks or Kenny even if they weren’t my taste I could at least see why others may like what they do and move past it. Joey is one I can’t understand why someone could ever be a fan of. Sadly I kinda get why he did what he did because it was a way to get to a position to make some money in the ancillary of wrestling doing his goofy thing and if my choice was struggle to survive or make a comfortable living I can’t confidently say I wouldn’t do something like that too. But we now know he crashed hard and likely will never wrestle at any level to make a living again after the accusations and how big of a douche he was about handling them to boot. At least the Bucks or Kenny seem like ok people who just aren’t my style whereas Joey was clearly a prick and deserves what happened to him.

  • @benschmelzer7748
    @benschmelzer7748 7 лет назад +1

    I always thought wrestling as the greatest traveling circus that we never thought we wanted, somehow Jim does not seem to understand that. In some cases the opposite is true but I assure you PWG is not in that camp. Whether it's BOLA or a cascade of some of the best talent that is comparable with every major promotion that get over in every possible way comedic and serious alike should be applauded and then some. This doesn't delegitimize the business at all, it helps bring a brighter audience from more backgrounds that find even more reasons why they like wrestling which in turn means different performers that helps the product not feel like it's all the same and boring that also feed more people into finding the appeal of the in-ring side of things. One thing that Jim cannot stand is that his diatribe that "today's wrestling is not wrestling at all and that whatever it is, it should never see the light of day ever again" is the same dead argument that Vince Russo bitch and moans about on a constant basis and the reason he's giving as to why he wants a job in wrestling again even though he never particularly cared for it. That's gotta grind Jim's gears a little. It makes me think what are his thoughts on gimmicks that should never have worked but have. See:The New Day, Broken gimmick, Undertaker, etc...

  • @juancaro99
    @juancaro99 7 лет назад

    i see a chikara trend going on with the shitty basics training.

  • @turtlehead2
    @turtlehead2 7 лет назад +4

    PWG sells out in seconds
    PWG draws
    PWG is good for wrestling
    Young Bucks sell out everywhere they go, sells tons of merch, and Matt set up one of War Machine for the Meltzer driver.
    Cornette needs to realize that the BUSINESS has changed. His 70s vision of how things should be
    Those outlaw promotions = more eyes on wrestling. WWE is losing fans by the thousands

  • @dankburrito4219
    @dankburrito4219 7 лет назад +11

    People growing up in the 80's and 90's trash today's metal, Old school NBA fans trash today's NBA, old hip hop heads trash today's music. Same goes for today's wrestling. This all stems from people that like to think the older stuff is better, but things change, those that don't like it start to bash others that like it. I find that highly annoying. Yeah I like 2002 WWE, however things are different now and I like it. Same with music or sports.

    • @paulmiller7838
      @paulmiller7838 7 лет назад

      I grew up in the 80's and 90's and music then was superior to today. However there is still good metal coming out so that's the one genera which you should not have chosen for your comment.
      However, facts are simply this. Some things improve over time. Some things degrade over time. To just assume things are bad now because they aren't the same is just as wrong as to assume that things are better now because they are different. And some changes are definitely NOT for the better (Music I'm looking at you).

    • @dankburrito4219
      @dankburrito4219 7 лет назад +1

      Paul Miller I chose that genre because as a fan of grindcore, Deathcore, anything that has mainly screaming, you will get people talking shit, go to any video and read the comments and there are people talking shit.

    • @d.carpenter7519
      @d.carpenter7519 7 лет назад +2

      Meanwhile, much of today's Metal lacks heart, the NBA has had so many rule changes that farting will get you a technical foul, stupid little untrained backyarders and trashbaggers think they can do what they see on TV, and many of the wrestlers coming up today do not have the same attitude about the industry to even learn how to sell or proper ring psychology. Do you understand now?

    • @princealirogers
      @princealirogers 5 лет назад +3

      I’m 20 years old and the silly shit disgusts me, I am so sick of bein ridiculed for being a wrestling fan, when the wrestlers don’t take it serious, no one else will.