I used Mindcrank/Bloodchief Ascension as the wincon in my Anowon deck. It runs all all of the best Rogue's and is mainly a gain control of your opponents things until you get your wincon
Gilded Drake steals Nylea instead of Magistrate, attacks for insignificant amounts of damage. Omnath player untaps and wins the game. Exquisite decision making.
If you hear the commentary and see Baal's gestures he wanted to steal the Magistrate the turn before. He had it in hand for 1 turn already and he had mana drain to try to do something else, the thing is he was attacked for a bunch of damage and at that point in time he thought that having himself the magistrate could draw even more attention to him from the David, so, despite knowing he wasn't doing the best play he stole Nylea as a way to get more out of his Zareth defuse the stompy damage from David and unlocking Sequeira to be able to police the board in case Brandão would go for dockside extortionist lines. Sure it wasn't the best play, sure he also knew that ;) that's that.
Great game! Wanted to ask, are both Extract and Manipulate Fate in the deck for exiling Squee, or are there other tricks you can do with them that I'm not seeing?
Yes, they are there almost exclusively to get squee into exile. Extract can occasionally be used offensively to exile key pieces from your opponent's decks. You can also use it as an emergency alternate wincon if your walking ballista/finale of devastation is somehow exiled. Once you have infinite card draws from food chain + squee + omnath and infinite mana with dockside + emiel, you can cast extract on someone, cast timetwister, shuffling it back to your deck, draw your entire deck again, cast noxious revival on timetwister, and repeat this loop until everyone has an empty library.
@@ChadZeluff Depends on the food chain deck, but they usually pack more than one combo. This one in particular also has a dockside extortionist + emiel combo plan. Other food chain decks sometimes play oracle + consultation, or underworld breach + LED + brain freeze
Zagras is so cool. I run Basilisk Collar and Nightshade Peddler in my Marath deck to control the board. Giving Goblin Sharpshooter deathtouch is such a great feeling. I would probably build Zagras if I didn’t already have a blue pingers deck too.
I just like that he also enables Deathbringer Thoctar while having solid cards to push his casting cost down to 3-4. He was definitely fun in playtesting and my kind of deck after a few tweaks
jemm13 of course, here you go - tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-untappening-reveka-edh/ I should probably run Isochron Scepter+Dramatic Reversal but I’m not really a fan
The voice over comment on gilded drake was spot on. Poor decision making and threat assessment did the table in. Even with the combat damage he would have lasted 1 more turn also permanently turning off omnath until omnath player had an answer to magistrate.....liked the basilisk pinger play thougg
Baal knew the best play was to take out the magistrate (it's watchable through his motions) , he had that lined up in his head one turn cycle before, but David was misled to attack him the turn before, in the end Baal's play was a bit careless and he kinda intended to throw the responsibility to deal with Omnath to someone else.
Can be anowon a good Commander for 2022 or what do you thinks is the best precon Commander congrats x Spain muy favorites are yuriko and hinata ☺️👊🏻♥️(obviously not from precon)
Similar to Anowon, perhaps Ramses can be a better commander these days, since it can actually win the game somehow, not even needing to connect, but in the end it might be a case of preference, if you want to do something tribal :)
Pretty good game, but I wish there was more originality in commander rather than always being "i generate infinite mana, draw my whole library and play this card that basically says win the game".
We have a bunch of games determined by non-combo wins (namely combat). Sometimes the games end this way, and I think it's the rogue decks' job to figure out how to stop these decks and take the win however they can :3
I mean, you could build around any strategy to want. And any strat you build could work, you just have to find a playgroup with an interest of just playing around with different things. Personally, I like building around a voltron strategy because the cards aren't really expensive because it's not a very common strategy to build around.
This channel is mainly cedh focused where they want to find the quickest way to win games. This channel may not be for you if this does not interest you.
@@alecgarza2286 not all decks have to be this way, as there are many ways to build a certain commander, which is what is fun about commander. You can tune it to be just fun and beat face or try to win as fast as possible. This changes with who you play with, and what you find fun. Commander is a diverse format that is easy to get into which is why people sooo many people get into it.
I noted it IG but it could've been missed out during editting. Baal didn't have a lot of time to edit this one and he's my hero for pulling this of on time for our regular schedule
0:50 a bit different than what I could see? Covers all 4 of his colours, turn one flooded strand into ketria triome, next turn use the green from ketria to cast llanowar elves and play the hollowed fountain for mystic remora, might be 3 mana but it still covers all 4 of the colours of omnath, not just 3.
The deck wasn't running Ketria Triome, and you would always want to start with a turn 1 Mystic Remora. The way it was phrased it was to have in consideration double coloured lands :)
@@Drummerboyno Oops, I completely missed this comment (youtube youtube-ing). I'd be willing to take a peek if you wanna link me. We always give credit, even when we just get inspiration!
@@pedrosequeira9829 Here is the deck link I hope that you find it interesting. May need some tweaking for your playgroup but I find that it does well in almost any pod. Enjoy! www.moxfield.com/decks/922Ov0NHdUyM3WZjE8BRMA
Depends on the decks. In this match, Ashaya definitely has that role. Omnath can be used for value and combo preparation as well. Anowon is pure value (in Baal's deck), while Zagras in mine functions as a board control enabler (with pingers) and can be an outlet in some of my combo plans. I think at high level play it's always good to have commanders that can perform multiple jobs OwO
Somos do Porto, por isso jogamos na Arena Porto, normalmente, e fazemos os vídeos num local privado. Mas se vieres cá ao Porto podemos jogar umas partidas na Arena. E temos FNMs semanais de Commander :)
When we pick up new released cards we try to build the best commander deck we can with that card, regarding cEDH viability, and Omnath is best built this way, so that was the choice done. It doesn't mean you can't do a fun deck revolving around Landfall but it wouldn't be as viable in cEDH.
The creator of the decklist actually deleted it, as it was outdated. But we added a link for an alternative and updated list if you want to try it. It's in the description and here: tinyurl.com/hsnk4fz9
Nathan and I spoke about it on Twitter and brewed it almost after it came out. I do agree it's cookie cutter cEDH and unexciting though, I asked Luis if he could pilot it instead because I wanted to test something more adventurous. I don't think it's bad to showcase decks that are this predictable. If anything, they're a test to the decision making of the people piloting the rogue/fringe decks :3
Hey hey, I poked Baal about it. In the meantime, it's here www.moxfield.com/decks/i34soxc-REmGC9bDw4dKmA Goal is mostly board control through pingers and Zagras. You can use thornbite staff, goblin sharpshooter and deathbringer thoctar to kill everything on the board. End game combo plans are Mikaeus + thoctar + sac outlet (or a pinger with thornbite or sharpshooter), triskellio nor ballista (same as thoctar). You also have Kormus Bell + Urborg + Pinger to kill people's lands (and, ofc, the "untap on kill" effects let you control everyone's lands forever). The deck felt pretty fun on test. I think it needs some kings worked out (namely whether Fiery Emancipation boosts pingers enough - or Zagras, since he can now 2-shot people) to warrant staying.
That specific list was running tainted pact and it was hard enough for Baal to pull a good landbase to support it. Even without it, with a normal landbase, off color fetches are still good as you can fetch different lands depending on your needs, but if you don't own OG Duals then maybe you can cut some off. The fetches allow you to smooth your draws by thinning the deck off of lands.
eww food chain? lol at that point its not even an Omnath deck. just a food chain deck. high tier infinite combo decks are so linear and dull. On the other hand, little sad I didn't get to see more of your Zagras deck, he looked fun to build around.
Omnath had different lines to go off to, but they are indeed all the usual cEDH combo lines. cEDH is mainly defined by a group of strategies where all decks circle around. We do try to showcase different lists now and then, but when showcasing new commanders we won't go away from the best options to build them just because they'll be the same old lines. What we mean is we won't cripple ourselves while building a commander to attempt to do something different "just because". We do try different builds when we see there's potential and the deck can still be a solid build. if we can we'll try to showcase these commanders later in the future, but you did see the deck revolved around machine-gunning opponents creatures to a point where you could just combo off :)
Most of our videos have pods with high levels of competitiveness, and in order to win in these pods combo or stax are the most effective ways to do it most of the time. We do tend to do some special episodes with themes or lower power levels, maybe you'll enjoy them more.
@@MrGrimord Well cEDH can be understood differently by different people and just because a deck is a little bit more competitive in regards to some card choices sometimes it doesn't make it a cEDH deck or cEDH viable, and we've had different people telling us some titles marked as cEDH were not cEDH, so sometimes we go light on the title choices.
Great video! The narration/editing is done so well, just subscribed!
controlling the board with jeska was pretty good ^^
Wicked video dude 👍🏼 huge shoutout for the editing throughout, top stuff 😁
wow, that Looter did work for Anowon! dope decks throughout, cool to see them all try and do their thing!
What a great game! So much back and forth!
Funnily enough, I am a Sequeira as well haha. Anowon deck was pretty sweet ngl
I used Mindcrank/Bloodchief Ascension as the wincon in my Anowon deck. It runs all all of the best Rogue's and is mainly a gain control of your opponents things until you get your wincon
Com esses nomes não enganam ngm! Mt bacano ver tugas a jgr Magic!
hehehe :) também não queremos enganar ninguém! xD usamos sempre os nomes próprios, e dos convidados também :)
Eu achei que fossem br.
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Zargas is just Anowon without a shirt fight me
Heck yeah, Zagras! Board police 😂
Gilded Drake steals Nylea instead of Magistrate, attacks for insignificant amounts of damage. Omnath player untaps and wins the game.
Exquisite decision making.
If you hear the commentary and see Baal's gestures he wanted to steal the Magistrate the turn before. He had it in hand for 1 turn already and he had mana drain to try to do something else, the thing is he was attacked for a bunch of damage and at that point in time he thought that having himself the magistrate could draw even more attention to him from the David, so, despite knowing he wasn't doing the best play he stole Nylea as a way to get more out of his Zareth defuse the stompy damage from David and unlocking Sequeira to be able to police the board in case Brandão would go for dockside extortionist lines. Sure it wasn't the best play, sure he also knew that ;) that's that.
Great game! Wanted to ask, are both Extract and Manipulate Fate in the deck for exiling Squee, or are there other tricks you can do with them that I'm not seeing?
Yes, they are there almost exclusively to get squee into exile. Extract can occasionally be used offensively to exile key pieces from your opponent's decks. You can also use it as an emergency alternate wincon if your walking ballista/finale of devastation is somehow exiled. Once you have infinite card draws from food chain + squee + omnath and infinite mana with dockside + emiel, you can cast extract on someone, cast timetwister, shuffling it back to your deck, draw your entire deck again, cast noxious revival on timetwister, and repeat this loop until everyone has an empty library.
Thanks for the great explanation :) What is a Food Chain deck’s alt win con if the Enchantment, itself, is exiled?
@@ChadZeluff Depends on the food chain deck, but they usually pack more than one combo. This one in particular also has a dockside extortionist + emiel combo plan. Other food chain decks sometimes play oracle + consultation, or underworld breach + LED + brain freeze
@@afonsobrandao5627 can you do it without using timetwister? Nobody in my group has one and are against proxying seemingly
Zagras is so cool. I run Basilisk Collar and Nightshade Peddler in my Marath deck to control the board. Giving Goblin Sharpshooter deathtouch is such a great feeling.
I would probably build Zagras if I didn’t already have a blue pingers deck too.
I just like that he also enables Deathbringer Thoctar while having solid cards to push his casting cost down to 3-4. He was definitely fun in playtesting and my kind of deck after a few tweaks
Got a list for blue pingers, sounds like fun!
jemm13 of course, here you go - tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-untappening-reveka-edh/
I should probably run Isochron Scepter+Dramatic Reversal but I’m not really a fan
The voice over comment on gilded drake was spot on. Poor decision making and threat assessment did the table in. Even with the combat damage he would have lasted 1 more turn also permanently turning off omnath until omnath player had an answer to magistrate.....liked the basilisk pinger play thougg
Baal knew the best play was to take out the magistrate (it's watchable through his motions) , he had that lined up in his head one turn cycle before, but David was misled to attack him the turn before, in the end Baal's play was a bit careless and he kinda intended to throw the responsibility to deal with Omnath to someone else.
The two tapped out links don't work :( I'm interested to see Baals Anowon build compares to mine! Keep up the good work :D
The lists are online now! =D
@@davidcalvao thanks for the quick fix :D
Can be anowon a good Commander for 2022 or what do you thinks is the best precon Commander congrats x Spain muy favorites are yuriko and hinata ☺️👊🏻♥️(obviously not from precon)
Similar to Anowon, perhaps Ramses can be a better commander these days, since it can actually win the game somehow, not even needing to connect, but in the end it might be a case of preference, if you want to do something tribal :)
Well that ended abruptly
Genesis Wave at 6:57 only reveals the first 3 cards of Davids deck right? As the amount of mana put into the X was 3
The wave was cast with X=4, as he untapped a forest and the ancient tomb for it
The verdant Catacomb appering as scalding tarn threw me off 2:54
oops! small copy paste mistake xD
@@SplitSecond I thought I was seeing things XD
Pretty good game, but I wish there was more originality in commander rather than always being "i generate infinite mana, draw my whole library and play this card that basically says win the game".
We have a bunch of games determined by non-combo wins (namely combat). Sometimes the games end this way, and I think it's the rogue decks' job to figure out how to stop these decks and take the win however they can :3
I mean, you could build around any strategy to want. And any strat you build could work, you just have to find a playgroup with an interest of just playing around with different things. Personally, I like building around a voltron strategy because the cards aren't really expensive because it's not a very common strategy to build around.
This channel is mainly cedh focused where they want to find the quickest way to win games. This channel may not be for you if this does not interest you.
Facts. This is why I stay away from commander
@@alecgarza2286 not all decks have to be this way, as there are many ways to build a certain commander, which is what is fun about commander. You can tune it to be just fun and beat face or try to win as fast as possible. This changes with who you play with, and what you find fun. Commander is a diverse format that is easy to get into which is why people sooo many people get into it.
That was no unsurprising. seeing a omnath foodchain deck.
Tbh the list is more centered around Dockside lines, but he drew the FC and I had the means to stop dockside loops on the table
STEVE.
ANOWON
I think Sequeira missed to recover some life from Jeska gaining Life gain from the collar when shooting creatures.
I noted it IG but it could've been missed out during editting. Baal didn't have a lot of time to edit this one and he's my hero for pulling this of on time for our regular schedule
Squee God of the multiverse
0:50 a bit different than what I could see? Covers all 4 of his colours, turn one flooded strand into ketria triome, next turn use the green from ketria to cast llanowar elves and play the hollowed fountain for mystic remora, might be 3 mana but it still covers all 4 of the colours of omnath, not just 3.
The deck wasn't running Ketria Triome, and you would always want to start with a turn 1 Mystic Remora. The way it was phrased it was to have in consideration double coloured lands :)
Would love to see a game where we get so see a greven deck in action!
I'll try adding it to my mental list. I've thought about him before but not too in-depth!
@@pedrosequeira9829 I have a deck that I am working on that is a lot of fun and can win out of nowhere!
@@Drummerboyno Oops, I completely missed this comment (youtube youtube-ing). I'd be willing to take a peek if you wanna link me. We always give credit, even when we just get inspiration!
@@pedrosequeira9829 Here is the deck link I hope that you find it interesting. May need some tweaking for your playgroup but I find that it does well in almost any pod. Enjoy!
www.moxfield.com/decks/922Ov0NHdUyM3WZjE8BRMA
Are the generals just a place holder for the infinite combo?
Depends on the decks. In this match, Ashaya definitely has that role. Omnath can be used for value and combo preparation as well.
Anowon is pure value (in Baal's deck), while Zagras in mine functions as a board control enabler (with pingers) and can be an outlet in some of my combo plans.
I think at high level play it's always good to have commanders that can perform multiple jobs OwO
If David ran Jungle Basin the he could also make infinite green mana
Olá! Onde jogam?
Somos do Porto, por isso jogamos na Arena Porto, normalmente, e fazemos os vídeos num local privado. Mas se vieres cá ao Porto podemos jogar umas partidas na Arena. E temos FNMs semanais de Commander :)
I like Steve
Gg
Could we see a throwback commander game with only cards from before... 8th edition?
That's something to consider :)
Cool Omnath albeit a bit meh. I'd have preferred a landfall Omnath instead of a combo one.
When we pick up new released cards we try to build the best commander deck we can with that card, regarding cEDH viability, and Omnath is best built this way, so that was the choice done. It doesn't mean you can't do a fun deck revolving around Landfall but it wouldn't be as viable in cEDH.
@@SplitSecond Fair enough. :)
@@SplitSecond None of these commanders are viable in Cedh
como assim commander TUGA?? SUBSCRIBE EZ
continuem bom trabalho!
hehehe :D obrigado!
The link for the Omnath Deck didnt work
We're trying to fix that. The decklist wasn't ours and we're trying to get in contact with the deckbuilder.
The creator of the decklist actually deleted it, as it was outdated. But we added a link for an alternative and updated list if you want to try it.
It's in the description and here: tinyurl.com/hsnk4fz9
São BR? Haha! Ótima gameplay
Somos PT ^^
@@pedrosequeira9829 haha sou BR
steeeeeeeeeeeeeve
OMNOMNOMNOM
Portugueses? Sou brasileiro, alguns nomes dos players são bem familiares
Somos portugueses sim :)
Jogamos no Porto, se cá vieres passa pela Arena para jogar ;)
@@SplitSecond assim que as condições melhorarem, eu irei amigos. Ótimo vídeo, +1 inscrito
Funny voice👍
omnath deck is like a copy paste of most cedh deck nothing new and expected to win boring . love the pinger deck.
Nathan and I spoke about it on Twitter and brewed it almost after it came out. I do agree it's cookie cutter cEDH and unexciting though, I asked Luis if he could pilot it instead because I wanted to test something more adventurous.
I don't think it's bad to showcase decks that are this predictable. If anything, they're a test to the decision making of the people piloting the rogue/fringe decks :3
Shouldn't let emotion drive your decisions if Baal had taken the Magistrate then it would stop Omnath while enabling his own commander tsk tsk tsk
Yes we rarely play to our emotions. We try to do the best play all the time but at that time it happened unfortunately.
The one list I want to see is Zagras and he's not on it. >_
Hey hey, I poked Baal about it. In the meantime, it's here www.moxfield.com/decks/i34soxc-REmGC9bDw4dKmA
Goal is mostly board control through pingers and Zagras. You can use thornbite staff, goblin sharpshooter and deathbringer thoctar to kill everything on the board.
End game combo plans are Mikaeus + thoctar + sac outlet (or a pinger with thornbite or sharpshooter), triskellio nor ballista (same as thoctar). You also have Kormus Bell + Urborg + Pinger to kill people's lands (and, ofc, the "untap on kill" effects let you control everyone's lands forever).
The deck felt pretty fun on test. I think it needs some kings worked out (namely whether Fiery Emancipation boosts pingers enough - or Zagras, since he can now 2-shot people) to warrant staying.
@@pedrosequeira9829 Thx much!
Small bug with RUclips Studio App for mobile phone didn't record the changes. Sequeira got you the list, but it's now updated! :)
I hate it when people play off color Fetchlands. Scalding Tarn in a Dimir deck is wrong.
That specific list was running tainted pact and it was hard enough for Baal to pull a good landbase to support it. Even without it, with a normal landbase, off color fetches are still good as you can fetch different lands depending on your needs, but if you don't own OG Duals then maybe you can cut some off. The fetches allow you to smooth your draws by thinning the deck off of lands.
Non proxy dual lands 😂 real big bosses
Well, actually some of them are really proxies... but no one needs to know right? ;P
@@SplitSecond ;)
@@jamesgratz4771 We just want to show optimized decks doing their thing! 😊
I hate infinite combos
eww food chain? lol at that point its not even an Omnath deck. just a food chain deck. high tier infinite combo decks are so linear and dull. On the other hand, little sad I didn't get to see more of your Zagras deck, he looked fun to build around.
Omnath had different lines to go off to, but they are indeed all the usual cEDH combo lines. cEDH is mainly defined by a group of strategies where all decks circle around. We do try to showcase different lists now and then, but when showcasing new commanders we won't go away from the best options to build them just because they'll be the same old lines. What we mean is we won't cripple ourselves while building a commander to attempt to do something different "just because". We do try different builds when we see there's potential and the deck can still be a solid build.
if we can we'll try to showcase these commanders later in the future, but you did see the deck revolved around machine-gunning opponents creatures to a point where you could just combo off :)
Infinite combo to win... meh.
Most of our videos have pods with high levels of competitiveness, and in order to win in these pods combo or stax are the most effective ways to do it most of the time. We do tend to do some special episodes with themes or lower power levels, maybe you'll enjoy them more.
SplitSecond Then your title is misleading since it’s cEDH gameplay, not EDH.
@@MrGrimord Well cEDH can be understood differently by different people and just because a deck is a little bit more competitive in regards to some card choices sometimes it doesn't make it a cEDH deck or cEDH viable, and we've had different people telling us some titles marked as cEDH were not cEDH, so sometimes we go light on the title choices.