Except TitanOS is terrible to the point where you end up wanting to use an AppleTV, Nvidia Shield or Chromecast with Google TV. You are at the mercy of Philips to add the apps you need through firmware updates and oh boi, they decided to add PORN APPS THAT YOU CAN NOT UNINSTALL! At least it is kinda hidden away behind a submenu, but still. I do not want it installed on my TV. I never asked for it to be installed on my TV.
@@Ozzianman Perhaps Tizen is not very good anymore but my Q90R from 2019 has a very nice TizenOS, it has almost all of the above stated features except some occasional minor ad boxes. But Tizen changed a few years later with the QN90B model, then it became a fullscreen OS rather than just a menu at the bottom of the screen. LG's WebOS on the C9 is also very good.
@@johnsmithy7918 TitanOS, not TizenOS. TItanOS is Philips's own SmartTV OS that is used in the PML9008. TizenOS is a perfectly fine OS as it is not locked down to the point of being useless. The image quality on the PML9008 is great! But if you wanna do streaming, then you kinda have to get a streaming box. It does not have any of the streaming apps native to my country.
The thing i like about this tv is the screen ...compared to the hisense u7k i just had ...the screen on u7k had lines running down the screen on greys amd colour's..this pml9 on white ...grey and colours is so smooth . What tv is better than this at the similar price ?
I need to know. What happens if you plug in an XBOX Series X console and enable 120Hz? In my case it displays a pink screen until I disable 120Hz and go back to 60Hz.
Ive just bought this pml9008 65inch. Conoared to the hisense u7k i just had ...the picture and screen seems more natural and no bar strips of light running down the tv. This 9008 seems smooth. Only thing im having trouble with is the fact the tv ...when i turn it off turns the tv back on and goes to the firestick. Also i came down the othe day and for some reason the amberlights were on and no screen. I oressed all buttons etc and the screen never came on. Only way was to turn the tv off at the wall. Cant get alexa to work either . Should i send it back?
For the problem with the Firestick, that comes from EasyLink, it must be deactivated. I think that an update will solve the problem because it is very annoying indeed
I've had the firestick off ...I've had it out of the tv ...the screen goes blank sometimes switching to an input. The lights come on for no reason but will not turn the tv back on . It switches the ps5 on when I turn the tv off. Yes I've tried the ps5 settings and yes I can solve it but it doesn't say ps5 on the input list nor does the ps5 now turn the tv on . There's other things wrong with this tv. I'm about to just swap it like for like but seems like this is just a bad tv that shouldn't be on the market
I would also try the ambilight cycle button so it goes red green blue then white warm and then white natural then off altogether and also make sure it's not on with any other setting like hue sync on your Philips hue app if you use that too
I had the same issue when I linked my tv decoder out of the box and update the tv. To solve the issue, you have to reset the TV in parameters, then do not link the tv decoder from the instalation guide and i did not update the TV too. IT IS WORKING SO SMOOTH NOW :D I love this TV
Hello, I couln´t see properly the height of the display, could you tell me which is the measure between the base and the display? I have a sound bar and as I see, the TV is so low...
Depending by dark scene you watching, from 7 to 9. This miniled led has better blacks only in comparison with 400 - 600 nits led tvs, but it cannot compete with oled, because it has only 100 mini led zones. while some top tier mini led can have more than 1000 zones. while 2022 version pml9007 has 5000 zones, ... this year philips changed power of the series, so its not comparable with old 9 series, but i think its still very good tv if you compare it with 8 series and even qled and oled, because it has excellent 1000 nits hdr brightness.
@@TechWatcher There is no such a TV as PML9007 but it's PML9507 and it doesn't have 5000 zones but only 256-512 depending on the size while PML9506 and PML9636 2021 models had 1024 zones and were Phillips first Mini LEDs and yet their best Mini LEDs so far. Philips has been downgrading their PML series year by year. I had all three, tested all three and PML9008 is by far the worst because it has the least dimming zones, IPS panel, Saphi OS, 3 sided ambilight instead of 4, does not have the next-generation Ambilight with Aurora, has a very cheap remote without mic... I could go on and on, it's such a downgrade, it's a complete joke! It's just an average TV with quite some bugs on top and way overpriced.
And to be honest packs a heavy punch bit wise just got another oled for my games room and this 9008 has alot more brightness thats for sure philips 907 65 is the one for the record @@212roblox212
Poz Imam dilemu oko kupovine..gledam samo sport preko satelitskog max tv..da li bi mi bio dobar philips 65pml9008 mini led koji je sada na akciji 6000kn i da li postoji nesto bolje za tu cijenu..dosta samsunga lg ima trenutno na akcijama po toj i nizoj cijeni ali nisu mini led..hvala
pml9 ce dobar zbog bolje kalibracije svjetline in procesiranje, tcl 65c805 ima bolji kontrast, apps ali je procesiranje malo sporije, no jos uvjek ima brzi 144hz za gaming ako je bitno
The fact you get far superior Google TV os on the lesser non-mini-led 8808 baffles me, and the only reason I backed out. If it weren't for ambilight, other brands would surely be better.
Pozdrav, super recenzija...moze pitanje...gledam najvise sport, signal (nogomet arena sport)...koji bi model preporucio...ovaj philips pml 9008, philips oled 718, ili mozda ld c2 oled?...i jos nesto, da li oled philips 718 radi refrash rate na 50hz na signal max tv (arena sport), ili na 120hz? Hvala unaprijed i lp
od svih ovih ti philips oled7 ima vise opcija i radi od 50hz do 120hz dakle ovisi sto se gleda, lg c2 je isto ok, philips inace koristi isti oled ekran od lg, i ima bolju kalibraciju slike p5
@@TechWatcher super...hvala na odgovoru...samo me jos zanima...imam prosjecno svetlu sobu....bez direktnog sunca u ekran...može bit kakvih problema u vezi oled i svijetlosti reflexa ekrana? Hvala i lp
I had this tv. Just returned it for repairs due to light bleed along the bottom. I like the tv but I think they should have left out the built in sound bar as it’s really far along the bottom/back. We’ll see if they can fix the light bleed issue I have
How good is the upscaling of lower resolution content? In particular for watching TV with is usually at 720p? How does upscaling compare to the TCL c805? Thanks!
I've had the TCL C805 for almost a year and from the very start, when I connected it, I was disappointed with the upscaling pictures and I'm even more disappointed with the picture movement, because this is the worst TV bio I've ever had or seen. As I researched, I found that everything I played from the USB key was good in terms of image movement, but when I watch from Apps, the image movement is bad, sometimes more and sometimes less. The most interesting thing is that if I have the TV connected to an external antenna, it's even worse to watch the movement of the picture and it's a total disaster when you watch skiing, ski jumping, hockey... I know that I will NEVER try another TV other than Sony, of course, if I have the money for it or a Phillips TV, and maybe next to these two I would also include Samsung in the end, I don't care about anything else. I currently have an almost 15-year-old working Sony TV, then a Samsung, which went to the service for a panel change before it was 2 years old, and I also have a Philips TV for more than 4 years, which works without problems, then I also have the cheapest Hisense TV, which your money is what it is and now the last TCL 55C805 TV will be almost a year old, which disappointed me very much. I forgot to say that quite often this TCL has to be restarted because otherwise it is totally frozen because you wait for half a minute for something to turn around, it's this kind of crap or I got a broken TV.
lg has similar ips mini led screens, but slightly more powerful brightness and dimming than philips, in terms of apps and remote experience is also superior, though difference is not huge, but philips remote doesn't have voice control and some apps like hbo, disney are still work in progress. Planned release for 2023 philips smart tvs os is with 2024 app updates, so the main advantage philips have are ambilight and its p5 picture and sound calibration.
LG qned90 он лучше будет там цветопередача лучше чем на Philips а если покупать qned86 то там 180 зон затемнения не знаю на какую диогональ но LG сейчас выглядит лучше Philips можно рассмотреть в последнюю очередь
Imroved motion... Does the the one 8909 also have improved motion? I have a oled 808.. picture quality is amazing.. but after a while i get headache and nosious. So i wonne try 8909 because philips has the best tv,s.
I tried the RUclips App in the store and when you switch to 4k the 65" crashes almost immediately whereas the 55" held out a little bit longer. Is it SaphiOS? There are so many conflicting informations out there about the OS of the PML9008...
Hello i have a question the collor calibration in 2d is not possible with my 65pml9308 tv , i have installedmthe latest software , do you have any suggestion.
@@pawelzagawa1129 i have good source from philips, they have vision to replace google tv os on all their tvs and without all streaming apps this is not possible. offcoursse time will tell the truth...
@@TechWatcher I wish to believe on that. Saphi is out to the market for 5 years now and they still don't have basics apps. Me, personally, I will go into native google or android TV
c3 has better night contrast, or go with philips oled8 2023 if u can still find it, pml9008 or latest 9009 have the best brightness for bright sunny rooms....
It seams like decent TV with good picture. It's a shame they decide to use native Saphi OS with 98% useless apps instead Google/Android OS in this higher end model. In general good review and keep them coming.
Wait... they remove the google assicst/ microphon of the remote control ? And this TV is till missing in our market (Bulgaria). For some reason Philips don't import MiniLED here, even last year you can't fine a miniLED almost anywhere . Btw up to 1000 nits.. is not a lot, Samsung QN90C is 2000 nits.
On my Q90R things could get pfetty bright, but it always came at the cost of something else like shadow detail. In practise, after making the necessary changes to get a balanced picture, peak brightness of the Samsung was effectively useless.
@@johnsmithy7918 Q90R is great TV, i was lucky enough to get next one 75" Q95T on sales and I love it. I didn't look for such a problem, because if you look for a problem in a TV, you will always find one. I say before.. there is not perfect TV so I don't care so much. I got LG OLED65CX and after one year I sell it, finding some problems with uneven coloring and DSE issues but the Q95T I will keep it forever. Now aiming for some QDOLED, maybe e on back friday.
Hello again, thank you bery much for your answer. I bouhht the phlips PML9008 and it has some problem with the display. Now I am considering to return it, and buy the LG lg qned866re, what do you think? Is it better than the philips?? Thank you very much again.
philips has a lot tv panels from lg, so similar quality, though it has some tweaks with picture processing, it all depends by screen sizes, usually 50" and 70"+ have the best screen contrast white black grey uniformity, while others have best viewing angle.
@@TechWatcher Thanks for the reply. It is dealbreaker the IPS panel. From the other side i am not sure if Hisense 55U7KQ has VA panel in Europe. For USA market is VA. For Europe some people said that they brought it and has IPS panel
Good review as always. I'd like to give a constructive feedback, the sound of your voice keeps changing position while using a headphone, that is a bit annoying and distracting. Otherwise good video!
I am also looking for the right settings, because currently I find that the TV hurts the eyes extremely. Comparatively I had an old LED tv without mark 1080p, And I find the balance of color / contrast / light much better on the old TV.
@@PierreFerra Maybe just try turning the brightness down as all the TV's are set to the highest brightness to "convince" people in the stores to buy them (where it is exceedingly bright - usually at home it is much, much, much darker).
@@bugraakbay I bought this TV, but I didn't use it, I just had a campaign that I would use at home, I bought it for $ 80, I bought it because it was affordable
Pity, you haven't mentioned anything about clouding issue in this model. It is a huge problem. Also, whereas I agree on the level of detail and colors - easily best in class - the black levels, especially at different angles, are not the best. Cheaper Philips LCDs are actually better at this. All in all, fantastic TV (ambilight is next level experience) if not the clouding issues.
yes there are many versions of pml9 with different type of screens, mva, va, ips, etc. ips black, grey picture uniformity is average at the best, but its not a distraction, but for someone who own oled and va type tv it will be a problem. so if you want the perfect contrast is the best to buy va or oled type led tv.
I wanted to buy this TV but now I know I won't - I'd need a separate TV box to watch HBO Max which is just ridiculous. Why did they go with the Saphi OS, there's plenty of Philips TV's with android.
philips tp vision eu will update all 2023 2024 tvs, so disney and hbo will work, in the meantime u can use 4k android hdmi stick instead of box and its also usable for travel, just plug it everywhere and you have all your android apps.
Merhabalar ben Türkiye’den yazıyorum ben de yeni aldım siyahlık oranı eski televizyonuma kıyasla yan yana koyduğumda çok fark ediyor işletim sistemi kötü ama ben Apple TV ile kullanıyorum Türkiye’den herkese sevgiler selamlar
WTF the remote looks SO cheap in comparison with my "old" 65" basic LED (not even The One) from Philips, with richer looks and design, voice control, full keyboard in the other side... Also, the absence of Android OS in this supossed higher tier TV, is annoying. So, not Disney+ or HBO until a new firmware arrival??? I were looking for a replacement for my actual Philips in the lounge, but i think it's better option either buying The One, or jumping to the OLED series spending some more.
well it depends if you watch sports, philips has still the best calibrated colors and 50% more brightness, while tcl and hisense have impressive specs for the price, they are limited in some areas, hisense has less brightness and tcl has slower motion,native refresh rate. at the end of day, ambilight can make difference
@@TechWatcher i will use it mainly to watch football,basketball and movies. But probably i will need android box because I saw that this Philips model is not Android tv
Raspravljali su ovaj TV na AVforumu danima. U odnosu na prošlogodišnji PML9507 zone su smanjene sa 250 na 140 i brightness sa 1500nita na 1000 da im ne konkurira sa OLED. Jedini 2023 TV koji nije dobio Pentonic1000 jer je dizajniran za GoogleTV koji također jedini nema. Što dovodi do problema da ne može DolbyVision@120hz, užasno za igre. Koristi IPS ekran, tako da je i kontrast lošiji od lanjskog VA. Makli su i NextGen Ambilight, ovaj miniLED ima osnovni kao jeftiniji TheOne. Doslovce u svemu lošiji od lanjskog modela koji su žali bože povukli iz HR dućana. Totalno su uništili miniLED model. Ne znam kako ti je sve to promaklo.
@@keponen331 Jel si uspoređivao ta dva modela, da znaš, da je Hisense bolji..? Nije sve u dimming conama, več je dosta važno kako radi sam algoritam za zatemnenje.. ! A tu je Hisense puno lošiji od Phlipsa.. Pored toga ima Philips i bolji procesing slike;-) Uglavnom sam Softwer i Hardwer je osjetno bolji na Philipsu.. Sam smart radi odlično, a krajem godine dolaze uglavnom sve aplikacije koje su na Google televizorima. Sada su još u razvoju. Tako, da je taj Philips veoma dobar u nekim segmentima čak odličan.. Jeste nešto lošiji od modela 9507, ali je zato tu još model 9308 sa VA panelom, koji je pa nešto bolji od modela 9507.
Testiram televizije 20 godina i mogu samo reci... u zadnim godinama nastala velika guzva i zbrka. qled, uled, nano, qned, miniled, microled... Nekad je bilo jednostavno... lcd i plasma, led i oled. Genijalci su poceli stvarat nove serije ili promenjivat brojeve serije... tako da 120hz 6 serija 6501 iz 2016 je usporedljiva sa 2023 pus88. 9007 je bolji od 9008. Philips pml9008 je bolji od pus7608, pus8508, pus8808 ima bolje google tv aplikacije. Hisense ima bolji va kontrast od philips ali meni se cini dvbt procesiranje brze na philips...
Sve me ovo podsjeća na prvu Samsung Qled seriju . Nakon prve "odlične "serije su u sljedećoj sve vratili i pogoršali klvalitetu samog Qled-a . Ali ovo što su uradili od Philipsa je SRAMOTA !
@@TechWatcher Naravno da je bolji od običnog LCDa kad je MiniLED. Nego je problem što je lošiji od 2022 9507 i 2021 9506 I TO NAMJERNO. A to Qled, nanoled, uled itd. su čiste marketing gluposti. Postoji jedino LCD, LCD sa FALD, MiniLED i OLED i kvaliteta je istim redosljedom. Većina ih ima 120hz na papiru al je neiskoristivo jer kad upališ Dolby ili VRR pada na 60.
its more like a bridge between 7 and 8 series, without mic and android apps, but its still has overall better hdr brightness performance than 8 series. if they will lower the price and release all promised apps in next weeks, it will be very good alternative if you want affordable mini led with ambilight.
tcl is slightly brighter and has better contrast, philips has better calibrated colors, otherwise similar, unless u want extra philips ambilight its easy decision...
![SahBabii - Viking [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D37cL92JX0I/mqdefault.jpg)
My oled philips pus9002/12 has a p5 processor its 6 years old now still runs like a dream
An easy to navigate OS, with the essential apps and without any ads and annoying videos - how hard can that be .
Except TitanOS is terrible to the point where you end up wanting to use an AppleTV, Nvidia Shield or Chromecast with Google TV.
You are at the mercy of Philips to add the apps you need through firmware updates and oh boi, they decided to add PORN APPS THAT YOU CAN NOT UNINSTALL! At least it is kinda hidden away behind a submenu, but still. I do not want it installed on my TV. I never asked for it to be installed on my TV.
@@Ozzianman Perhaps Tizen is not very good anymore but my Q90R from 2019 has a very nice TizenOS, it has almost all of the above stated features except some occasional minor ad boxes.
But Tizen changed a few years later with the QN90B model, then it became a fullscreen OS rather than just a menu at the bottom of the screen.
LG's WebOS on the C9 is also very good.
@@johnsmithy7918 TitanOS, not TizenOS.
TItanOS is Philips's own SmartTV OS that is used in the PML9008. TizenOS is a perfectly fine OS as it is not locked down to the point of being useless.
The image quality on the PML9008 is great! But if you wanna do streaming, then you kinda have to get a streaming box. It does not have any of the streaming apps native to my country.
The thing i like about this tv is the screen ...compared to the hisense u7k i just had ...the screen on u7k had lines running down the screen on greys amd colour's..this pml9 on white ...grey and colours is so smooth .
What tv is better than this at the similar price ?
I need to know. What happens if you plug in an XBOX Series X console and enable 120Hz? In my case it displays a pink screen until I disable 120Hz and go back to 60Hz.
I have same problem anyone know how to fix
Did this fix?
What about Dirty Screen Effect watching sports? Is that noticeable? Thanks
i didn't have any issues while watching football, it's better than pus88, i will soon upload new philips test video with white screen (web) test..
Ive just bought this pml9008 65inch. Conoared to the hisense u7k i just had ...the picture and screen seems more natural and no bar strips of light running down the tv. This 9008 seems smooth.
Only thing im having trouble with is the fact the tv ...when i turn it off turns the tv back on and goes to the firestick.
Also i came down the othe day and for some reason the amberlights were on and no screen. I oressed all buttons etc and the screen never came on. Only way was to turn the tv off at the wall.
Cant get alexa to work either .
Should i send it back?
For the problem with the Firestick, that comes from EasyLink, it must be deactivated. I think that an update will solve the problem because it is very annoying indeed
I've had the firestick off ...I've had it out of the tv ...the screen goes blank sometimes switching to an input.
The lights come on for no reason but will not turn the tv back on .
It switches the ps5 on when I turn the tv off. Yes I've tried the ps5 settings and yes I can solve it but it doesn't say ps5 on the input list nor does the ps5 now turn the tv on .
There's other things wrong with this tv. I'm about to just swap it like for like but seems like this is just a bad tv that shouldn't be on the market
I would also try the ambilight cycle button so it goes red green blue then white warm and then white natural then off altogether and also make sure it's not on with any other setting like hue sync on your Philips hue app if you use that too
I had the same issue when I linked my tv decoder out of the box and update the tv. To solve the issue, you have to reset the TV in parameters, then do not link the tv decoder from the instalation guide and i did not update the TV too. IT IS WORKING SO SMOOTH NOW :D I love this TV
@@thefisherman2837 have you swapped it? How is your experience with it?
Hello, I couln´t see properly the height of the display, could you tell me which is the measure between the base and the display?
I have a sound bar and as I see, the TV is so low...
its to low, get a Universal Large Stand - Height Adjustable Base
@@TechWatcher Okay, thank you very much!🥰
Hi, question: if OLED TVs have a 10/10 black level, what rating would you give to the black level of this TV? Thanks!
Depending by dark scene you watching, from 7 to 9. This miniled led has better blacks only in comparison with 400 - 600 nits led tvs, but it cannot compete with oled, because it has only 100 mini led zones. while some top tier mini led can have more than 1000 zones. while 2022 version pml9007 has 5000 zones, ... this year philips changed power of the series, so its not comparable with old 9 series, but i think its still very good tv if you compare it with 8 series and even qled and oled, because it has excellent 1000 nits hdr brightness.
@@TechWatcher Thank you so much🤗
@@TechWatcher There is no such a TV as PML9007 but it's PML9507 and it doesn't have 5000 zones but only 256-512 depending on the size while PML9506 and PML9636 2021 models had 1024 zones and were Phillips first Mini LEDs and yet their best Mini LEDs so far. Philips has been downgrading their PML series year by year. I had all three, tested all three and PML9008 is by far the worst because it has the least dimming zones, IPS panel, Saphi OS, 3 sided ambilight instead of 4, does not have the next-generation Ambilight with Aurora, has a very cheap remote without mic... I could go on and on, it's such a downgrade, it's a complete joke! It's just an average TV with quite some bugs on top and way overpriced.
@@TechWatcher bro hello, TCL C745 OR THİS TV, ONLY WATHC FILM AND SERIES NOT GAMING
What about previous pml9507, which is better?
Bought mine today ! Happy boy
How is it?
Banging buddy no complaints
And to be honest packs a heavy punch bit wise just got another oled for my games room and this 9008 has alot more brightness thats for sure philips 907 65 is the one for the record @@212roblox212
Poz
Imam dilemu oko kupovine..gledam samo sport preko satelitskog max tv..da li bi mi bio dobar philips 65pml9008 mini led koji je sada na akciji 6000kn i da li postoji nesto bolje za tu cijenu..dosta samsunga lg ima trenutno na akcijama po toj i nizoj cijeni ali nisu mini led..hvala
pml9 ce dobar zbog bolje kalibracije svjetline in procesiranje, tcl 65c805 ima bolji kontrast, apps ali je procesiranje malo sporije, no jos uvjek ima brzi 144hz za gaming ako je bitno
Can I screen share from my iPhone with Disney
The fact you get far superior Google TV os on the lesser non-mini-led 8808 baffles me, and the only reason I backed out. If it weren't for ambilight, other brands would surely be better.
Pozdrav, super recenzija...moze pitanje...gledam najvise sport, signal (nogomet arena sport)...koji bi model preporucio...ovaj philips pml 9008, philips oled 718, ili mozda ld c2 oled?...i jos nesto, da li oled philips 718 radi refrash rate na 50hz na signal max tv (arena sport), ili na 120hz?
Hvala unaprijed i lp
od svih ovih ti philips oled7 ima vise opcija i radi od 50hz do 120hz dakle ovisi sto se gleda, lg c2 je isto ok, philips inace koristi isti oled ekran od lg, i ima bolju kalibraciju slike p5
@@TechWatcher super...hvala na odgovoru...samo me jos zanima...imam prosjecno svetlu sobu....bez direktnog sunca u ekran...može bit kakvih problema u vezi oled i svijetlosti reflexa ekrana? Hvala i lp
@@mw12387 ima oled i anti reflex design, tako da ce bit ok
I had this tv. Just returned it for repairs due to light bleed along the bottom. I like the tv but I think they should have left out the built in sound bar as it’s really far along the bottom/back. We’ll see if they can fix the light bleed issue I have
How do you find the voice reproduction and clarity to be ? Does it come to the forefront ?
How good is the upscaling of lower resolution content? In particular for watching TV with is usually at 720p? How does upscaling compare to the TCL c805? Thanks!
I've had the TCL C805 for almost a year and from the very start, when I connected it, I was disappointed with the upscaling pictures and I'm even more disappointed with the picture movement, because this is the worst TV bio I've ever had or seen. As I researched, I found that everything I played from the USB key was good in terms of image movement, but when I watch from Apps, the image movement is bad, sometimes more and sometimes less. The most interesting thing is that if I have the TV connected to an external antenna, it's even worse to watch the movement of the picture and it's a total disaster when you watch skiing, ski jumping, hockey...
I know that I will NEVER try another TV other than Sony, of course, if I have the money for it or a Phillips TV, and maybe next to these two I would also include Samsung in the end, I don't care about anything else. I currently have an almost 15-year-old working Sony TV, then a Samsung, which went to the service for a panel change before it was 2 years old, and I also have a Philips TV for more than 4 years, which works without problems, then I also have the cheapest Hisense TV, which your money is what it is and now the last TCL 55C805 TV will be almost a year old, which disappointed me very much. I forgot to say that quite often this TCL has to be restarted because otherwise it is totally frozen because you wait for half a minute for something to turn around, it's this kind of crap or I got a broken TV.
Does it have voice control? I mean like for searching apps, on yt etc. or do you have to type it by remote controller?
i didnt find voice button, only philips android and google tvs have it.
Hello,
Between these three TVs: LG 65QNED866QA, LG 65QNED916QA and Philips The Xtra 65PML9008/12, which one is the best in your oppinion? Thanks!
lg has similar ips mini led screens, but slightly more powerful brightness and dimming than philips, in terms of apps and remote experience is also superior, though difference is not huge, but philips remote doesn't have voice control and some apps like hbo, disney are still work in progress. Planned release for 2023 philips smart tvs os is with 2024 app updates, so the main advantage philips have are ambilight and its p5 picture and sound calibration.
LG qned90 он лучше будет там цветопередача лучше чем на Philips а если покупать qned86 то там 180 зон затемнения не знаю на какую диогональ но LG сейчас выглядит лучше Philips можно рассмотреть в последнюю очередь
Imroved motion...
Does the the one 8909 also have improved motion?
I have a oled 808.. picture quality is amazing.. but after a while i get headache and nosious. So i wonne try 8909 because philips has the best tv,s.
I tried the RUclips App in the store and when you switch to 4k the 65" crashes almost immediately whereas the 55" held out a little bit longer.
Is it SaphiOS?
There are so many conflicting informations out there about the OS of the PML9008...
update your software worked fine for me today without any issues
It uses "TitanOS"!
Thanks. I've got the Amber light kit in the front room on a LG tv but u can't connect it to a sound bar(as far as I know!?)
Hello i have a question the collor calibration in 2d is not possible with my 65pml9308 tv , i have installedmthe latest software , do you have any suggestion.
how good and smooth is the motion interpolation ? btw i like very much sope opera effect
how do i activate the sope opera effect? thx
Hello awesome review between the 55pus8848 the one and this which one would you recommend?
They are similar in terms of colors, but if you want more apps go with pus85, if you want 50% better hdr brightness go with pml9
What about amazon prime and disney apps ? Are they available to download?
still in beta testing, they are scheduled for release in next months
@@TechWatcher How do you know they are scheduled for release in next month? Is there any roadmap or app backlog available?
@@pawelzagawa1129 i have good source from philips, they have vision to replace google tv os on all their tvs and without all streaming apps this is not possible. offcoursse time will tell the truth...
@@TechWatcher I wish to believe on that. Saphi is out to the market for 5 years now and they still don't have basics apps. Me, personally, I will go into native google or android TV
Is disney plus available now in this TV?
which one you choose for pc and ps5 gaming ? LG 48" C3 or Philips 55" PML9008
c3 has better night contrast, or go with philips oled8 2023 if u can still find it, pml9008 or latest 9009 have the best brightness for bright sunny rooms....
It seams like decent TV with good picture. It's a shame they decide to use native Saphi OS with 98% useless apps instead Google/Android OS in this higher end model.
In general good review and keep them coming.
I think an Apple TV is solution.
Did you actually watch the review?
It is not using Saphi but TitanOS...
Is the apk installed?
What is the brightness value?
Does the amber lights still work with a separate amp and 5-1 speakers system or will it only work with the TV built in system
yes it possible adjust it in the advanced amblight and sound settings
What other TVs with mini-led 120hz in this price range?
there are some from tcl and hisense until pml9009 arrives in 2024, tcl C755 has 144hz and 1300nits screen
@@TechWatcher Wow that's a beast. I ended up purchasing the current model, it just arrived Cheers!
How does it compare to the PUS8808 (The One)?
pml9008 or pml9009 is higher tier in terms of hdr brightness (1000 vs 500) in comparison with pus8
Hello, black levels and blooming are good ? Do you recommend this TV or rather OLED707/708 ?
708
OLED always has better black levels but is also usually more expensive.
@@FutureChaosTV compared to a Samsung Crystal UHD, will I see a big difference with the mini LED?
Wait... they remove the google assicst/ microphon of the remote control ? And this TV is till missing in our market (Bulgaria). For some reason Philips don't import MiniLED here, even last year you can't fine a miniLED almost anywhere . Btw up to 1000 nits.. is not a lot, Samsung QN90C is 2000 nits.
On my Q90R things could get pfetty bright, but it always came at the cost of something else like shadow detail. In practise, after making the necessary changes to get a balanced picture, peak brightness of the Samsung was effectively useless.
@@johnsmithy7918 Q90R is great TV, i was lucky enough to get next one 75" Q95T on sales and I love it. I didn't look for such a problem, because if you look for a problem in a TV, you will always find one. I say before.. there is not perfect TV so I don't care so much. I got LG OLED65CX and after one year I sell it, finding some problems with uneven coloring and DSE issues but the Q95T I will keep it forever. Now aiming for some QDOLED, maybe e on back friday.
Hello again, thank you bery much for your answer. I bouhht the phlips PML9008 and it has some problem with the display. Now I am considering to return it, and buy the LG lg qned866re, what do you think? Is it better than the philips?? Thank you very much again.
philips has a lot tv panels from lg, so similar quality, though it has some tweaks with picture processing, it all depends by screen sizes, usually 50" and 70"+ have the best screen contrast white black grey uniformity, while others have best viewing angle.
@@TechWatcher Thank you very much, I wish you a happy new year!!
Happy New Year
Can you share the specks on sdr, hdr, game modes seperatly?
TCL 55C805 or this one? I'm afraid of OLEDs' burn in issues due to gaming.
c805 is better choice if you want better gaming performance (144 vs 120), philips pml9 is also good has better hdr brightness (1000 vs 600)
@@TechWatcher the thing is we have an old ambilight Philips and it helps the eyes a lot
You shouldn't be concerned about burn in. Gaming on a OLED is way superior and nothing to be afraid of!
Does it have IPS panel? If yes, does black looks like grey?
its dark grey, there is minimum blooming, not visible if you watch movies, but grey and black uniformity test is similar to lg ips nano tvs
@@TechWatcher Thanks for the reply. It is dealbreaker the IPS panel. From the other side i am not sure if Hisense 55U7KQ has VA panel in Europe. For USA market is VA. For Europe some people said that they brought it and has IPS panel
Thanks for great material. What would you take Pml9008, oled 718/12 or oled 806/12 ?
it depends, for big bright day room i would go with pml9008, for watching movies in dimly lit room go with oled8
Lg qned756ra 55 inç or philips 55pml9008 55 inç which one sir?
for ambilight go with philips, otherwise same screen quality, lg has better remote and apps
Hello,
Can someone give me the best picture setting i have the 65PML9008
Thank’s you !
45 / 5.000
What is the most current software version for it?
Is disney plus available now in this tv?
Good review as always. I'd like to give a constructive feedback, the sound of your voice keeps changing position while using a headphone, that is a bit annoying and distracting. Otherwise good video!
The voice in itself IS distracting and it is nothing but a big commercial...
Is having 2 processor cores a bad thing?
more is usually better, but it also depends what speed cores have.
I bough this one. I hope it will work better than my old telefunken lcd.
How is it?
Dude, can u give your image seettings for watching movies and gaming? Please 🙏🏻
I am also looking for the right settings, because currently I find that the TV hurts the eyes extremely. Comparatively I had an old LED tv without mark 1080p, And I find the balance of color / contrast / light much better on the old TV.
@@PierreFerra Maybe just try turning the brightness down as all the TV's are set to the highest brightness to "convince" people in the stores to buy them (where it is exceedingly bright - usually at home it is much, much, much darker).
Poz, koji je panel IPS ili VA ?
Is there voice button on remote?
get a new titan 2024 philips remote after u update firmware. it has backlit keys and voice button
Thanks I bought this TV today, I'm glad to find this review
Hayırlı olsun işletim sistemi nasıl buldunuz memnunmusunuz lütfen cevap
Are you happy with the TV? Did you recognise any flickering in the videos?
@@bugraakbay I bought this TV, but I didn't use it, I just had a campaign that I would use at home, I bought it for $ 80, I bought it because it was affordable
how do you like it now, after a month? @@ibrahimkara3098
@@ibrahimkara3098İbrahim bey memnunmusunuz acaba uzun bir görüş alabilirmiyim sizden
where is clear Android TV for my apps? BIG misstake...
Hvala za recenziju a palac dole je za Philips ! Pozz
Is it true 120hz for gaming?
yes it support native 4k120
For videogame and youtube philips oled 808 or philips miniled 9008
I'm confused and undecided
Oled808 is faster and it has better contrast in dimly lit room. Miniled has advantage in bright room.
@@TechWatcher Thank you
@@papawaigo1065 oled has Pentonic1000 so it can do DolbyVision@120hz too
Does it have an apple tv app??
its scheduled for the q1 2024
hello is disney plus available in the new os?
Disney is available on google android philips tvs, pml9008 will recive disney app in the monthly updates
@@TechWatchersaphi os havent received it for years, are you sure the new os will receive it through update?
@@koibur yes, but like always its best to wait, i will also believe when i will test it.
Brate izvinite, alors kako si otisao da imas ovaj game, ja nemam...
It ought to be illegal for any OS to have ads.
Ovaj ili TCL c805?
tcl ima vise slike i aplikacija za cjenu, procesiranje i boje su slicne, philips ima vise u kutiji jedino zbog ambilight
A TCL C805 ili Hisense U7KQ(i uopšte TCL ili Hisense)..?@@TechWatcher
Pity, you haven't mentioned anything about clouding issue in this model. It is a huge problem. Also, whereas I agree on the level of detail and colors - easily best in class - the black levels, especially at different angles, are not the best. Cheaper Philips LCDs are actually better at this. All in all, fantastic TV (ambilight is next level experience) if not the clouding issues.
yes there are many versions of pml9 with different type of screens, mva, va, ips, etc. ips black, grey picture uniformity is average at the best, but its not a distraction, but for someone who own oled and va type tv it will be a problem. so if you want the perfect contrast is the best to buy va or oled type led tv.
Hi which is better. This one or PUS8518 The One?
pus85 has support for google assistant, while pml9 has titan os, better screen hdr brightness and motion overall.
is panel IPS or VA? 65"
pml9009, pml9008 mva fald, it depends what build month you get... panel lottery from lg factory
viewing angles?
I wanted to buy this TV but now I know I won't - I'd need a separate TV box to watch HBO Max which is just ridiculous. Why did they go with the Saphi OS, there's plenty of Philips TV's with android.
philips tp vision eu will update all 2023 2024 tvs, so disney and hbo will work, in the meantime u can use 4k android hdmi stick instead of box and its also usable for travel, just plug it everywhere and you have all your android apps.
So there is no way to add hbo max, Disney+ Spotify? ..... Like wtf
Firestick is the way forward for all TV os problems side load apps for free content
They didn't go for Saphi, they went for their new OS: "TitanOS"!
Whats the issue with just getting a firestick or chromecast
This or 55PUS8818 ? Thanks
if you don't need android games or advanced android tools go with pmpl9 it has better color brightness and viewing angle.
Does this TV have a PC mode?
it has pc game profile, so when u enable it u can adjust 2k or 4k refresh rate
Merhabalar ben Türkiye’den yazıyorum ben de yeni aldım siyahlık oranı eski televizyonuma kıyasla yan yana koyduğumda çok fark ediyor işletim sistemi kötü ama ben Apple TV ile kullanıyorum Türkiye’den herkese sevgiler selamlar
Görüntü ayarları için bir önerin var mı hocam ? Beyazlar biraz patlıyor sanki bende. Ve insan yüzleri soluk gibi
WTF the remote looks SO cheap in comparison with my "old" 65" basic LED (not even The One) from Philips, with richer looks and design, voice control, full keyboard in the other side...
Also, the absence of Android OS in this supossed higher tier TV, is annoying. So, not Disney+ or HBO until a new firmware arrival???
I were looking for a replacement for my actual Philips in the lounge, but i think it's better option either buying The One, or jumping to the OLED series spending some more.
yes if you want perfect contrast, voice control or android apps, otherwise brightness is still a 50% better on pml9 vs pus8
I am between PHILIPS 55PML9008, TCL 55C745 and Hisense 55U7KQ. What do you propose?
well it depends if you watch sports, philips has still the best calibrated colors and 50% more brightness, while tcl and hisense have impressive specs for the price, they are limited in some areas, hisense has less brightness and tcl has slower motion,native refresh rate. at the end of day, ambilight can make difference
@@TechWatcher i will use it mainly to watch football,basketball and movies. But probably i will need android box because I saw that this Philips model is not Android tv
İşlemci çekirdek sayısı 2 olması kötü birşey mi?
Cihazda android işletim sistemi mevcut mu ?
Lowest price is €900 for the 75 inch
Great!
Raspravljali su ovaj TV na AVforumu danima. U odnosu na prošlogodišnji PML9507 zone su smanjene sa 250 na 140 i brightness sa 1500nita na 1000 da im ne konkurira sa OLED. Jedini 2023 TV koji nije dobio Pentonic1000 jer je dizajniran za GoogleTV koji također jedini nema. Što dovodi do problema da ne može DolbyVision@120hz, užasno za igre. Koristi IPS ekran, tako da je i kontrast lošiji od lanjskog VA. Makli su i NextGen Ambilight, ovaj miniLED ima osnovni kao jeftiniji TheOne. Doslovce u svemu lošiji od lanjskog modela koji su žali bože povukli iz HR dućana. Totalno su uništili miniLED model. Ne znam kako ti je sve to promaklo.
Hisense 55U7KQ 1000 zona ga dere u svemu, a košta 300€ manje. Sramota za Philips.
@@keponen331 Jel si uspoređivao ta dva modela, da znaš, da je Hisense bolji..? Nije sve u dimming conama, več je dosta važno kako radi sam algoritam za zatemnenje.. ! A tu je Hisense puno lošiji od Phlipsa.. Pored toga ima Philips i bolji procesing slike;-) Uglavnom sam Softwer i Hardwer je osjetno bolji na Philipsu.. Sam smart radi odlično, a krajem godine dolaze uglavnom sve aplikacije koje su na Google televizorima. Sada su još u razvoju. Tako, da je taj Philips veoma dobar u nekim segmentima čak odličan.. Jeste nešto lošiji od modela 9507, ali je zato tu još model 9308 sa VA panelom, koji je pa nešto bolji od modela 9507.
Testiram televizije 20 godina i mogu samo reci... u zadnim godinama nastala velika guzva i zbrka. qled, uled, nano, qned, miniled, microled... Nekad je bilo jednostavno... lcd i plasma, led i oled.
Genijalci su poceli stvarat nove serije ili promenjivat brojeve serije... tako da 120hz 6 serija 6501 iz 2016 je usporedljiva sa 2023 pus88. 9007 je bolji od 9008.
Philips pml9008 je bolji od pus7608, pus8508, pus8808 ima bolje google tv aplikacije. Hisense ima bolji va kontrast od philips ali meni se cini dvbt procesiranje brze na philips...
Sve me ovo podsjeća na prvu Samsung Qled seriju . Nakon prve "odlične "serije su u sljedećoj sve vratili i pogoršali klvalitetu samog Qled-a . Ali ovo što su uradili od Philipsa je SRAMOTA !
@@TechWatcher Naravno da je bolji od običnog LCDa kad je MiniLED. Nego je problem što je lošiji od 2022 9507 i 2021 9506 I TO NAMJERNO.
A to Qled, nanoled, uled itd. su čiste marketing gluposti. Postoji jedino LCD, LCD sa FALD, MiniLED i OLED i kvaliteta je istim redosljedom.
Većina ih ima 120hz na papiru al je neiskoristivo jer kad upališ Dolby ili VRR pada na 60.
It looks very cheep to belong on the 9000 series , above all, the remote looks very cheep
its more like a bridge between 7 and 8 series, without mic and android apps, but its still has overall better hdr brightness performance than 8 series. if they will lower the price and release all promised apps in next weeks, it will be very good alternative if you want affordable mini led with ambilight.
i was thinking the 9000 was at the top of the series ,
To be honest i was surprissed by the price for 65 ''
Thank you for explanation
Most likely it is made from cardboard and cheap plastic like most of all new tvs...
Ips low contrast and lots of lightbleed 🤮🤮
TV 👎👎👎👎👎🤢
the worst led tv i have bought in my life. Artifact vision, blooming in dark scenes, bleeding Edge...
which size you have, 50 and 65+ have the best contrast min blooming
@@TechWatcher 55 inches
this or c805 65"?
tcl is slightly brighter and has better contrast, philips has better calibrated colors, otherwise similar, unless u want extra philips ambilight its easy decision...