🗡️Masterwork 2h How To & Review - New Best Melee weapon? - By TigerFang

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @TigerFangRS
    @TigerFangRS  22 дня назад +9

    Hey all, I fucked up put simply and test 2 for shards were off because I had Destroy in the rotation(the duel wield replacement to hurricane). This caused berserk to not go off due to adrenaline issues, as destroy is high damage but also takes a long time, which decreases adrenaline gain, which resulted in less dps due to less berserks.
    Retested today(would of done earlier yesterday but had IRL stuff going on)
    Retested today, 650k > 662k. Making it better than Masterwork 2h, which I explained in video that I expected that to begin with. Still not a huge gain over the masterwork 2h but is better.
    ruclips.net/video/UJT3jDh6Yvk/видео.html
    Thanks to everyone who had CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, and didn't just flame me haha

  • @ternimater2009
    @ternimater2009 24 дня назад +19

    Actually was a very good video. Thanks a lot! I love this style of videos. Balanced with information and visual demonstration but not too much to confuse. Keep it up bro!

  • @runegaz
    @runegaz 23 дня назад +16

    The most informative vid about this sword I found this year

    • @keetahsanlee6629
      @keetahsanlee6629 23 дня назад +2

      that part. giving him a thumbs up for his work

  • @qprs
    @qprs 23 дня назад +8

    I appreciate the comparison. The sword definitely has a place in upgrade orders based on the price vs other options

  • @RyanNoseBest
    @RyanNoseBest 4 дня назад

    "Lengs shit the bed" had me cackling bruh lmfao, definite sub.

  • @MrandMrsQuack
    @MrandMrsQuack 15 дней назад +2

    damn, fantastic music choices. video was also super informative too!

  • @DarthChosen
    @DarthChosen 23 дня назад +4

    great music choice btw, great video overall

  • @jy5422
    @jy5422 22 дня назад +1

    Just found your channel I subbed. Great video for us that can’t do full manual. Thank you I been looking for a video like this for a bit now. Thanks again.

  • @AwaKENedFromTheMatrix
    @AwaKENedFromTheMatrix 23 дня назад +6

    I think the masterwork 2h as a BiS weapon is to offer a much cheaper alternative to a physical zuk sword + shard of genesis. Sure it may not have the zuk sword's spec but specing from a physical zuk sword is always incorrect and useless since the spec wouldnt get extended by masterwork spear passive in that case. Thus for BiS setup you would need a zuk sword in eof AND a physical one + genesis shard for your 2h ability switch. The masterwork 2h offers a budget alternative to the latter. The only edge case that is so obscure even the most sweatest of pvmers wouldnt do is that the zuk sword is technically an obsidian weapon that can be boosted by the berserker necklace which gives it a 5% bonus that would beat the bonus stats that an eof offers. So switching to a zuk sword(tier 100) + berserker necklace for your 2h abilities is technically optimal damage potential but that is extremely intensive gameplay. If they made berserker necklace into an enchantment to buff the zuk sword, the zuk sword(tier 100) would absolutely be BiS over the masterwork 2h with the same APM.

    • @undeadaeon9992
      @undeadaeon9992 19 дней назад

      U don't need zuk sword spec if u have an essense of finality

    • @AwaKENedFromTheMatrix
      @AwaKENedFromTheMatrix 19 дней назад

      @@undeadaeon9992 hence why I said specing from physical zuk sword is incorrect and useless

  • @Gus_bus1
    @Gus_bus1 21 день назад +2

    I really loved the elder gwd music for those bosses so glad you threw that in for lengs and zuk sword 😊

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  21 день назад

      Glad someone noticed! Audio is something I enjoy the most tbh, but sometimes hard to balance volume lol

  • @Grimjabls
    @Grimjabls 20 дней назад +1

    Lengs have to use the special attack. If you cap at 10 stacks your not allowed to get the extra ability damage that comes from gaining a stack

  • @joecopoertoe2672
    @joecopoertoe2672 18 дней назад

    Love the depth and detail you took to showcase a new weapon and older bis weapons. Definitely made up my mind to make it now. I was very skeptical at first because of the no ability

  • @charlessouth6488
    @charlessouth6488 23 дня назад +1

    This is fantastic! Thanks!

  • @OmniDan26
    @OmniDan26 24 дня назад +3

    DUUUUDE...Your guy looks exactly like mine, hair, clothes and all. Spooky.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  24 дня назад +4

      @OmniDan26 lmao hasn't changed it in 20 years, except maybe hair, haha. Twinsss

  • @MrSwagMoney
    @MrSwagMoney 22 дня назад +1

    awesome vid!

  • @jelopezta
    @jelopezta 23 дня назад

    The Suk Sword! Great video! thanks for the analysis.

  • @Lootshark
    @Lootshark 18 дней назад

    it might be good for budget before scythe but if ur really using melee, due to cooldowns and rotating between zerk/zgs and bleed rotations using the other alternatives are just better in situations in and outside of bossing
    someone might say even getting around it just do hybridding with other styles as to get around some cooldowns

  • @tygermarshall6487
    @tygermarshall6487 23 дня назад

    This is the greatest comparison video i've ever seen

  • @aaronw-arrior9974
    @aaronw-arrior9974 23 дня назад +2

    Im just hoping the new craftable mage weapon is a staff so i dont have to get a fsoa and genesis shard for t100 now😊

  • @traaaaceeeer
    @traaaaceeeer 10 дней назад +1

    como brasileiro, fica muito melhor entender o vídeo graças as escritas que você coloca, obrigado

  • @kristianvillagomeza7024
    @kristianvillagomeza7024 23 дня назад +2

    the Suk Sword. I'm at a level 69 reading level :D

  • @amm1270
    @amm1270 24 дня назад

    Thanks. This was a great video full of the info I needed to decide if I wanted to make it. I can't believe how cheap it is. I might wait till Drygores go down.

  • @undeadaeon9992
    @undeadaeon9992 7 дней назад

    I have question. Have you upgraded the zuk sword and other t95 weapons you tested to t100 shard of Genesis, or did u just test the t 95 vs masterwork sword.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  7 дней назад

      nah defeats the point of the test, if you can already afford and upgrade a t95 to a t100 then masterwork sword isn't needed, as zuk sword that is t100 is just a better masterwork sword. I Don't currently melee enough to justify spending the gp atm.

  • @yoitsJoe2
    @yoitsJoe2 23 дня назад

    I bought leng set months ago for 800m and 850m, now they're up to 1.2b & 1b, this video helped me decide to sell them XD. Thank you for convincing me to grab my 800m profit, and dip out while I can! But I decided to keep the offhand so far.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      @@yoitsJoe2 if you arnt meleeing activity, probably not a bad shout but lengs while doing good dps roations and doing more input, are still the best melee weapons in game

  • @charlescamacho880
    @charlescamacho880 23 дня назад +1

    bro this is so informative dps

  • @triclydesdal6998
    @triclydesdal6998 2 дня назад

    how do you get that sword to rest on your shoulder?

  • @AjmLinkle-rn3ji
    @AjmLinkle-rn3ji 19 дней назад

    I'd be curious on scourge+T85 leng offhand vs MW 2h sword as this combo is about half the price of nox scythe/mw 2h sword and applies true damage via parasite that doesn't get nerfed by accuracy issues while also benefiting from primordial stack generation which you could just eof the T85 mainhand leng to use.

  • @RagnarUchiha
    @RagnarUchiha 22 дня назад

    Make another good vid like this one and i'll subscribe.
    For now... i'll like the vid.
    Good to see your work. Keep it up :)
    JK. Got yourself a new subscriber the moment you called it "the overcompensator"' :D

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  22 дня назад

      @@RagnarUchiha haha
      Had me at the first half

  • @andreaandrea1950
    @andreaandrea1950 22 дня назад

    scourge has a passive stacking bleed thats why they pulled ahead probably
    generally you wanna use dw melee and your 2hander is just a switch for cleave and meteor strike maybe cane depending on the situation so with manual input its a switch at best
    dont get me wrong its cheaper than buying a second ezk just for the switches and if strapped for cash it will do the job but if you unironically main it at group bosses you might get some weird comments ^^'

  • @omegahaxors9-11
    @omegahaxors9-11 23 дня назад

    I'm disappointed they didn't do something like masterwork armor. If you custom-fit the set it won't lose charges in slayer/bossing. That ability alone makes it by far the cheapest augmented armor set in the game in the front that it literally does not use charges.
    It makes the set very ideal for skillers who want to get into combat, as recurring costs is one of the biggest deal breakers for them. Unlike tryhards who can quickly kill bosses and use the drops to pay for their gear, skillers are way more likely to hit that fat L and lose hours of work and have nothing but repair costs to show for it. EDIT: I forgot about the set effect too which doesn't make the bosses any easier but makes failing a mechanic way more forgiving, which is another huge dealbreaker for non-PVM players getting into combat. You're still hitting that fat L because you have to leave the combat encounter, but at least you're not paying Death's really high reclaim costs. (I heard they've been toned down, though not sure by how much and besides any reclaim cost is going to hit harder if you're not getting drops to counter them. Worse players are inherently going to have to pay way more than experienced ones and I feel like that's probably where a lot of the elitism of the PVM community is coming from)
    The sword is just raw damage. I guess you could make the argument the lack of gimmicks makes it more approachable, but eeeh. It doesn't quite hit the mark of pushing someone whose beat the rest of the game to start trying out the combat like the armor does. I mean, the scythe has a really simple gimmick and a more forgiving one with its double range, feels more fitting for a starter weapon.

  • @jlayman89
    @jlayman89 23 дня назад

    6:00 Quick revision you may want to know, the passive doesn't boost melee damage by 24%. Although it's a common misconception due to the way it's worded. When the passive procs, it adds a small hit of 24% of your ability damage each time you hit an enemy with a non-bleed hit. You can see this when you show the buff.
    Also, the lengs did rather poorly because the revo bar is not good. If you want a really consistent test, then have a fairly similar bar. I know you weren't going for a super rigorous test here, but if you were, then you'd want the exact same abilities used. Thats where lengs would likely outshine the rest. Scourge will always be supreme because its 40k dpm for free. Or if the test was supposed to be tailoring bars for each wepaon set, then lengs would still outperform both ezk and scythe with a proper bar, but would also fall short of the mw2h and maybe even mws because theyre not revo friendly. The poeer they bring is in their spec which is like a free overpower twice a minute.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      @@jlayman89 id take a screenshot of a bar because was trying to keep it similiar to 2h, but replacing the weapon specifical abilities with their counter parts

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      @@jlayman89 also super appreciate this type of feedback, much love

    • @jlayman89
      @jlayman89 23 дня назад

      @@TigerFangRS right and I can see this, but because destroy replaces hurricane, it completely alters the flow of the bars. Which results in fewer basics used, therfore less adrenaline, so it won't build up to zerk as often, and thats where it absolutely crippled the dpm. Like as counter intuitive as it may seem, if destroy wasn't on the bar, it would probably do more damage.
      If you go and review your footage, I'd wager the revolution barely used zerk at all for the lengs, but used it a few times for the 2h sessions. A similar situation for the scourge as with lengs, but since the scourge does damage ovwr time and the challenge barrel lasts a few minutes, you end up with much more damage due to this.

    • @AaronThePony
      @AaronThePony 23 дня назад

      @@TigerFangRS Yeah your DW revo bar isnt good, Im getting 730k on barrels with dual lengs using optimal bar revo T100 Lengs

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  22 дня назад

      @@jlayman89 super appreciate the feedback!

  • @christiand7353
    @christiand7353 19 дней назад

    Good video

  • @Catashak
    @Catashak 20 дней назад

    OK, how are you hitting that high on anything? I have the noxious and I am maxed and I have never hit over 8000. What am I doing wrong?

  • @tadassverubas9139
    @tadassverubas9139 22 дня назад

    can u test out aby primal spikes?

  • @lifeofparc2510
    @lifeofparc2510 23 дня назад

    Can you share your revolution bars for all three styles with us? I liked your for melee in this video. Wondering if you had more

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      This is what I used for the video for barrels
      runescape.wiki/w/Revolution/Bars#Single_target

  • @Kingboo247-o4d
    @Kingboo247-o4d 8 дней назад

    my character holds it with 1 hand how do i fix that lol

  • @SuperGamefreak18
    @SuperGamefreak18 20 дней назад

    but thats not the Suk Sword....the suk sword is kinda molten now

  • @mikaelmorand1790
    @mikaelmorand1790 15 дней назад

    look good but have no special attack like zaros zuk or leng sword

  • @tadassverubas9139
    @tadassverubas9139 22 дня назад

    its alts bis weapon where u dont need input

  • @Sandnessen
    @Sandnessen 8 дней назад +1

    Suk Sword!

  • @bearhugcat
    @bearhugcat 23 дня назад

    nice review! kinda sucks this messes up my ocd bank organization :(, melee has lania spear, mw spear. range only has ecb. and magic has nothing equivalent...

  • @BigandStrong12
    @BigandStrong12 23 дня назад

    Best melee weapon released in over a year

  • @XJ9LoL
    @XJ9LoL 23 дня назад +36

    And then you remember necromancy exist and go "why bother".

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад +9

      Sad but true, Melee still has a place in my heart

    • @wyzeinfinity7243
      @wyzeinfinity7243 23 дня назад +12

      I bother because necromancy has gotten boring why lock yourself into one way of playing until you pretty much aren't having fun anymore

    • @AwaKENedFromTheMatrix
      @AwaKENedFromTheMatrix 23 дня назад +6

      It's worth bothering because necro has an ultimate that has a cool down thats 90 seconds long while melee's berserk can be shorten to 45 with 2 full channels of flurry so you can berserk twice as often as you can living death

    • @aaronw-arrior9974
      @aaronw-arrior9974 23 дня назад +4

      Necromancy is pretty boring for some people. And for speed kills it loses to melee and range atm. So you wouldn't see it much outside brid

    • @MrSethkokualani
      @MrSethkokualani 23 дня назад +1

      Yeah, felt that way after the range buff after the first mining and smithing rework.

  • @pokescape98
    @pokescape98 23 дня назад +5

    Suk Sword

  • @zakariabouziane5682
    @zakariabouziane5682 23 дня назад

    Mirror back is useless??????

  • @ncamon
    @ncamon 23 дня назад

    Blast fusion hammer is not needed, you can use the one on your toolbelt.
    #thesuksword

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      @ncamon Hey, thanks for the call out! I think my brain melted a little bit, and i was thinking of the new pickaxe, not the essence, so, good correction!!!
      - me secretely wanting to support the dwarves family and kids

  • @kianwallis1999
    @kianwallis1999 22 дня назад

    I main melee and i dont know why people dont use the abyssal scourge with the offhand leng. I actually had a conversation about this with someone and i offered them to a 1v1 and absolutely destroyed them i then said to check who does my damage on the combat dummies and he still lost😂😂. But u didnt use the lengs special ability for the test thats what is going to bring in the big damage use it with chaos roar and around 2 or 3 charges then u will get over 20k guaranteed with both hits

    • @undeadaeon9992
      @undeadaeon9992 19 дней назад

      Why would you use leng special ability over chaos roar and zuk cape over power??

    • @kianwallis1999
      @kianwallis1999 19 дней назад

      @undeadaeon9992 chaos roar causes the lengs ability to be doubled in damage making both of them hit 30k with around 2 or 3 stacks which is why I use that and it would only cost 10% adrenaline if u had 2 stacks and not 3 making my other abilities such as overpower usable

    • @peterkirk8510
      @peterkirk8510 9 дней назад

      @@undeadaeon9992 because overpower hitcaps too hard with chaos roar. On average you gain more damage by using roar on hurricane than you do with overpower.

  • @speakthemovie
    @speakthemovie 23 дня назад

    The Suk Sword

  • @Disregarding
    @Disregarding 23 дня назад

    Anyone wanna lend me a scourge?

  • @pauls.5815
    @pauls.5815 11 дней назад

    23m on the GE now

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  11 дней назад

      @@pauls.5815 its no where near ge value

    • @pauls.5815
      @pauls.5815 11 дней назад

      @@TigerFangRS Not sure why it is on the GE starting at 23m then. Not sure how the GE calculates prices. There are a lot of items that are not right on the GE. I have noticed a lot of weird thigs going on with the GE as of late.

  • @undeadaeon9992
    @undeadaeon9992 19 дней назад

    Single target damage, why would you use adrenaline for spec over Zukcape + overpower?????

  • @necrolord1920
    @necrolord1920 23 дня назад

    At least you admitted that this video is not scientific by admitting that you weren't happy with dual wield and kept tweaking it to make it look better.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      @necrolord1920 it didnt make it look better and because duel wield has to be changed because it cant use 2h abilities, it was taking what pvme had and switching order to see if it was an order thing, or in some cases, was just adding ability at the end to make sure it had an ability because the revo bars on pvme and wiki are not best for duel wield full revo. Things like greater flurry and such

  • @gokke7638
    @gokke7638 19 дней назад

    the suk sword

  • @KiiNgDusT
    @KiiNgDusT 22 дня назад

    Lukewarm take.

  • @ArcaneTricksterRS
    @ArcaneTricksterRS 23 дня назад

    Where's the MD plug

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      @@ArcaneTricksterRS thats for the skilling video haha

  • @jasonvors1922
    @jasonvors1922 22 дня назад

    Again jagex miss's the mark, It could have been the best melee weapon as far as a 2h than do rest of the lineup to sweeten the deal but naope jagex gotta screw it up.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  22 дня назад

      Too easy to obtain to be the absolute best weapon in game, but it is extremely solid. Not everything has to be BIS on release. It has a really solid spot for the transition right before BIS

  • @amanwithnoname.-dl2os
    @amanwithnoname.-dl2os 21 день назад

    Suk sword

  • @ThatAussieBloke1
    @ThatAussieBloke1 17 дней назад

    It's hideous

  • @shinyphat3105
    @shinyphat3105 18 дней назад

    suck sword

  • @divineretribution9605
    @divineretribution9605 23 дня назад

    So if you're a revoleechin' warrior it's good but if you actually know how to DPS it's trash, got it.

    • @TigerFangRS
      @TigerFangRS  23 дня назад

      I would say, even if your manual, its a fantastic option if you are on a budget.