It is a shame that the injustice of the Oscars is not Oppenheimer in terms of visual effects, although they did not do it with green screen or computer effects, the practical effects are essentially masterful and in each shot you can see the beauty of the effects.
Ahaha saw this tweet all day long on X...Dude has big budget , dont want to hire cgi vfx artist wich are masters at their work. Since Interstellar Nolan with his will to not use CGI is silly in this era. David fincher is using it to emphatize his stories most of them are invisible (just to make scenes more accurate to their time). Whereas nolan on dunkirk or here could have made a way better work than doing R&D to make a fake small nuclear bomb vfx. This movie is only saved by the music and actors, I'm starting to like less and less Nolan's movie. despite when I saw its on oppenheimer + CIlian in leading role I was so hyped. but meh. I had way more entertainment watching the apple serie "genius" on einstein than this one.
@@RpKTANK Lol you have a problem with Nolan because he didn't use CGI? That's a pretty stupid thing to be peeved about. If he feels like he can achieve the effect he wants without CGI then I don't see why he wouldn't explore that avenue. And clearly he doen't need it cause he's movie look too good. It's not silly to not use CGI, it's his choice, one that worked in his favor and kept the budget reasonable.
Hell no they weren't. That Trinity test was ass. Look like a big ass fire. The academy got it right, there was not one visual effects shot that was mind-blowing. Now cinematography is different.
I think you forgot the fact that there was no CGI and I believe that the shots were great which involved human creativity. I would easily go to watch it for the third time, if they rerelease.@@mania4270
This movie was a masterpiece. The cinematography and practical and visual effects were amazing, shame on the oscar comittees for not nominating it. The storyline was amazing too, the beginning of the movie and the ending could never have been better than that. The actors were also well chosen and their performance in this movie was just breath-taking. This movie has further inspired me to have a job in the film industry, as well as the other movies of Chris. Thank you so much for this masterpiece!
Don't cry. What do these special effects have that the shortlisted don't? You guys don't understand that they can be good and not be the best. You want it to be great and diminish the other films. Shame on you.
@@r.c.c.10 I never diminished the other films. I just said that the practical effects on this film was great. I never compared it to other films, I just said that I was disappointed that this movie was not nominated. Read my comment properly. I was using the “Oscar didn’t nominate this film” as a way to describe how good the practical effect was. I never said that this movie is the best, I never compared this film to other films. I was just saying what aspects of this film I liked.
I don't know if we watched the same film. I've looked at this from several different angles and I can barely find any visual effects at all. You can't nominate a movie for something it doesn't have.
I really enjoyed Oppenheimer but damn, the Trinity test explosion needed to be more grand. It was essentially a gasoline explosion in slow-mo. It felt small and it didn't convey the size and power of these types of explosions. Definitely jarred me out of the movie for a moment.
Yea man It was such a let down! Everything was leading up to it..the music was intense, then when we get it, I was expecting a bang, instead we got a whimper. When I was in the theater I said to myself "that's all"..."that's it"?...🤦🏾♂️ smh
I did agree with the explosion being underwhelming. I do like that it is a real explosion, but the size of it in the movie was NOTHING compared to an actual nuclear detonation. In a real nuclear explosion it's not so much firey at first, it's a blinding flash of white and then a huge mushroom cloud that goes hundreds of feet up into the sky. You can see nuclear explosions from space. The one shown in the film was spewing out in all directions, which is more in-line with something like a gas explosion. Also, because the camera was so zoomed in, the explosion lacked scale. It didn't look NEARLY as big as it should have. I know because one of my old friends was the world's top three pyro-technicians, along with my personal research because explosions fascinate me. Aside from the explosion though, Nolan aced it as usual with everything else.
I thought the explosion looked tiny, like maybe a gas station, or a couple oil trucks blew up, either way it did not look like a 2,000 feet fireball (just the fiery part, not the shockwaves). The flames and embers just looked too big, I was surprised they really used that footage, which would have looked fine if used in his subsequent panic attacks, but in that sequence, it didn't work for me. That gentle fireball with big chunks of flame and glowing debris did not match the blinding white light and knocking people on their feet who were far away. It looked like a regular movie explosion.
Didn't it look like a regular fireball? Seriously. Love the movie otherwise, but if you remember all the headlines about the practical explosion for what felt like a year before the movie was out, you end up wishing they did the damn thing on the computer, or a mix of practical and CG.
There is nothing strange about a movie benefiting from good CGI. Good CGI is invisible and is everywhere, there is no way you'd know it's there. Only bad CGI sucks and it's always due to the same issues, poor shooting and preparation, no time and money left for VFX studios...
I do understand your point but I actually like the way he chose to do it. I think the thing the explosion lacked was scale. It did look realistic though.
When the director and marketing are pushing "NO VFX," and disparaging CGI, it's not surprising when they don't get nominated for the Oscar by their peers.
When I made a community post calling out the Oscars for not putting this in the best visual effects shortlist, someone in the comments told me that the movie had no VFX. Yeah... no VFX my ass. I hope this wins best director and picture to make up for the best visual effects snub.
I'll be honest, I liked all the visual effects of the movie expect for the atomic bomb, and the end scene where world is lit in fire. The explosion in this movie didn't feel like atomic bomb at all
Yes you can fake it, and that's actually what it should have been done... Because you can't redo it at scale on set (or at least no in a pragmatic way)
There were reports Universal didn't credit 80% of the VFX artists who worked on this movie which is a real shame. This trend of downplaying the VFX work is really tiring. Mad Max: Fury Road had 2000+ VFX shots, Top Gun Mavrick had 2400+ and the new Mission Impossible had 2500+. But you won't hear about it. It's not even that the audience hates VFX, they don't. But the real gems of visual effects like Avatar and Dune has become rare. The artists are overworked, underpaid and uncredited. Many VFX looks bad simply because the artists aren't given time to finish it, not because they're cheaping it out. It's not just Hollywood, the whole VFX industry is in a bad shape.
the people who nominate films for academy awards are the visual effects artists in the film industry who are working today. it’s not some committee of old farts like the golden globes
Normies won't even know that Angel Studio's "After Death" did the same sort of sfx on a double-digit fraction of the cost this year. So, y'know - eat it Nolanphants!
Nah they missed the ball on the trinity explosion. Too many sparks, too much going on in all directions. It should be a giant ball of plasma, expanding equally in all directions, not a bunch of fireworks.
Sorry, but that nuclear explosion was so very underwhelming (and I saw it in IMAX) and now they want a pat on the back for blowing up a couple barrels of gasoline and filming it in slow motion, like that's supposed to win them an Oscar? :D
For anyone who didn't know, Oppenheimer has zero CGI shots. _ZERO._ Everything you saw, from the explosions to the particles to the surreal visions was done practically.
That's absolutely not true unless you think he shot the earth being consumed by nuclear fire in camera for real. At the very least there's a heavy use of digital compositing. DNEG did over 100 shots combined from over 400 elements. I highly doubt there's no 3D renders in there too. Never believe directors and actors who say "They did it all for real" just because there was something practical on set. Top Gun was full of CGI (literally every shot of a jet), this is full of VFX and probably some CGI for the ending shots and some stuff like having the map ripple like water.
@@GrandHighGamerwhat he meant by no cgi was there weren’t any shots in the movie that were entirely cgi. It was always either no cgi whatsoever or cgi enhanced practical effects.
Well they them self’s promoted as no CGI Vfx in their marketing campaigns also not to mention, they didn’t credited 100’s of artists who actually worked in vfx. That’s what the film makers and marketing wanted and that’s what they got well deserved not to be on nominations. Can’t have your hands in all the cakes marketing peeps. Sad to see they are trying to change the narrative again with this video. People need to be called out, on trying to pull this type of crap. #vfxunion All vfx and CGI artists need to join union see how writers guild got things sorted don’t be scared and join vfx union so things like this are not pulled by production houses.
Why is the title of this video visual effects? Are they now not only lying to the audience that there was no cgi, but now also lying that these effects are visual effects? Visual effects are post production done on a computer, these are shot IN CAMERA and are referred to as special effects. Don't allow them to confuse you further...
Chris Nolan doesn't reject CGI. He just tries to capture a lot in camera. His movies still have cgi, Oppenheimer does as well. Oppenheimer does not have any shots that are completely CGI, doesn't mean that some of the imagery was enhanced digitally. There was still a vfx team working on the movie.
It is a shame that the injustice of the Oscars is not Oppenheimer in terms of visual effects, although they did not do it with green screen or computer effects, the practical effects are essentially masterful and in each shot you can see the beauty of the effects.
Except there's barely any visual effect shots in the movie. It's mostly a dialogue-driven movie.
should have been nominated for VFX. It doesn't have to be Digital
They honestly didn't nom it because it would've won over some other bullshit film that doesn't deserve it.
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Ahaha saw this tweet all day long on X...Dude has big budget , dont want to hire cgi vfx artist wich are masters at their work. Since Interstellar Nolan with his will to not use CGI is silly in this era. David fincher is using it to emphatize his stories most of them are invisible (just to make scenes more accurate to their time). Whereas nolan on dunkirk or here could have made a way better work than doing R&D to make a fake small nuclear bomb vfx.
This movie is only saved by the music and actors, I'm starting to like less and less Nolan's movie. despite when I saw its on oppenheimer + CIlian in leading role I was so hyped. but meh.
I had way more entertainment watching the apple serie "genius" on einstein than this one.
@@RpKTANK Lol you have a problem with Nolan because he didn't use CGI? That's a pretty stupid thing to be peeved about. If he feels like he can achieve the effect he wants without CGI then I don't see why he wouldn't explore that avenue. And clearly he doen't need it cause he's movie look too good. It's not silly to not use CGI, it's his choice, one that worked in his favor and kept the budget reasonable.
the special effects of Oppenheimer are off the charts great
Hell no they weren't. That Trinity test was ass. Look like a big ass fire. The academy got it right, there was not one visual effects shot that was mind-blowing. Now cinematography is different.
I think you forgot the fact that there was no CGI and I believe that the shots were great which involved human creativity. I would easily go to watch it for the third time, if they rerelease.@@mania4270
@@mania4270 exactly! It was so underwhelming, I was expecting much more :(
hope the OSCAR committee realises what a mistake they have done by not nominating it for best Visual Effects
Fr they must not have seen it or sum 💀
Yeah!
There's very little actual visual effects in the entire movie beyond the test explosion.
nominations haven't come out tho. there's still time
@@umanuu the shortlist has come out and if a film isnt on the shortlist then it cannot get nominated
They should add a “best practical effects” category at the Oscar’s!
This movie was a masterpiece. The cinematography and practical and visual effects were amazing, shame on the oscar comittees for not nominating it. The storyline was amazing too, the beginning of the movie and the ending could never have been better than that. The actors were also well chosen and their performance in this movie was just breath-taking. This movie has further inspired me to have a job in the film industry, as well as the other movies of Chris. Thank you so much for this masterpiece!
Don't cry. What do these special effects have that the shortlisted don't? You guys don't understand that they can be good and not be the best. You want it to be great and diminish the other films. Shame on you.
@@r.c.c.10 I never diminished the other films. I just said that the practical effects on this film was great. I never compared it to other films, I just said that I was disappointed that this movie was not nominated. Read my comment properly. I was using the “Oscar didn’t nominate this film” as a way to describe how good the practical effect was. I never said that this movie is the best, I never compared this film to other films. I was just saying what aspects of this film I liked.
Bringing the art and fun of practical effects and VFX to the cinema, thank you, Christopher Nolan
Oppenheimer should have been placed in the Best Visual Effects category
I don't know if we watched the same film. I've looked at this from several different angles and I can barely find any visual effects at all. You can't nominate a movie for something it doesn't have.
I really enjoyed Oppenheimer but damn, the Trinity test explosion needed to be more grand. It was essentially a gasoline explosion in slow-mo. It felt small and it didn't convey the size and power of these types of explosions. Definitely jarred me out of the movie for a moment.
Yea man It was such a let down! Everything was leading up to it..the music was intense, then when we get it, I was expecting a bang, instead we got a whimper. When I was in the theater I said to myself "that's all"..."that's it"?...🤦🏾♂️ smh
I did agree with the explosion being underwhelming. I do like that it is a real explosion, but the size of it in the movie was NOTHING compared to an actual nuclear detonation.
In a real nuclear explosion it's not so much firey at first, it's a blinding flash of white and then a huge mushroom cloud that goes hundreds of feet up into the sky. You can see nuclear explosions from space. The one shown in the film was spewing out in all directions, which is more in-line with something like a gas explosion.
Also, because the camera was so zoomed in, the explosion lacked scale. It didn't look NEARLY as big as it should have.
I know because one of my old friends was the world's top three pyro-technicians, along with my personal research because explosions fascinate me.
Aside from the explosion though, Nolan aced it as usual with everything else.
1:53 A Sony Pictures truck on a Universal set?? I guess it was a collective effort
I got this on Blu-Ray and when I saw this I was mind blown. Crazy to think those scenes were not cgi but filmed with an IMAX camera.
I thought the explosion looked tiny, like maybe a gas station, or a couple oil trucks blew up, either way it did not look like a 2,000 feet fireball (just the fiery part, not the shockwaves). The flames and embers just looked too big, I was surprised they really used that footage, which would have looked fine if used in his subsequent panic attacks, but in that sequence, it didn't work for me. That gentle fireball with big chunks of flame and glowing debris did not match the blinding white light and knocking people on their feet who were far away. It looked like a regular movie explosion.
Thank you!!!! I was so disappointed, the trinity explosion was soooo weak!!! Totally underwhelming
Didn't it look like a regular fireball? Seriously. Love the movie otherwise, but if you remember all the headlines about the practical explosion for what felt like a year before the movie was out, you end up wishing they did the damn thing on the computer, or a mix of practical and CG.
Special effects were amazing in this movie, however the nuclear explosion scene would have benefited from some cgi as well, strange as it may sound
The movie show how Oppenheimer saw the bomb from his persective
I definitely agree with you. The explosion was anticlimatic
There is nothing strange about a movie benefiting from good CGI.
Good CGI is invisible and is everywhere, there is no way you'd know it's there.
Only bad CGI sucks and it's always due to the same issues, poor shooting and preparation, no time and money left for VFX studios...
It looks exactly like how the actual explosion was. Look up original footage of the Trinity test.
I do understand your point but I actually like the way he chose to do it. I think the thing the explosion lacked was scale. It did look realistic though.
When you shit on VFX in every interview, it's difficult to justify getting a nomination .. Hopefully it gets a nom!
Oppenheimer is nominated for the golden globes
Absolutely insane that this movie didn’t get nominated
It is due to the woke femenist propaganda in the US
@@abhinandsharma2255 shut up.
Best movie of the year
Well…still the official line is ‘No VFX’. VFX studios should simply refuse to work on Nolan’s films until and unless they get the credit they deserve.
When the director and marketing are pushing "NO VFX," and disparaging CGI, it's not surprising when they don't get nominated for the Oscar by their peers.
Thank you at least one person understands
A bit of logic in the comment section of a Nolan video. Never thought I would see it. Thanks.
When I made a community post calling out the Oscars for not putting this in the best visual effects shortlist, someone in the comments told me that the movie had no VFX. Yeah... no VFX my ass.
I hope this wins best director and picture to make up for the best visual effects snub.
Nobody wants to admit the Trinity explosion was absolutely not Oscar-worthy.
CGI cannot come close to the things Christopher Nolan achieves with practical effects.
I'll be honest, I liked all the visual effects of the movie expect for the atomic bomb, and the end scene where world is lit in fire.
The explosion in this movie didn't feel like atomic bomb at all
It was too small! Godzilla minus one atomic breath was more terrifying than this lil oh gas leak of an explosion
@@iamBlackGambit He used optical illusion to show a small explosion as a big atomic explosion. But it didn't work out quite well.
The most underwhelming explosion in any movie. You can't fake fireball size
Lol right godzilla minus one atomic breath was what I expected for oppenheimer
Your expectation is from a fictional movie and you want real world to stand upto that?
Yes you can fake it, and that's actually what it should have been done... Because you can't redo it at scale on set (or at least no in a pragmatic way)
Get ready for salty fanboys to tell you you should have watched Transformers Revenge of the Fallen instead.
The atomic bomb scene was unbelievable. Shame on the Academy: the visual effects were stunning
Honestly an amazing movie, didn’t even mind all the talking
There were reports Universal didn't credit 80% of the VFX artists who worked on this movie which is a real shame.
This trend of downplaying the VFX work is really tiring. Mad Max: Fury Road had 2000+ VFX shots, Top Gun Mavrick had 2400+ and the new Mission Impossible had 2500+. But you won't hear about it. It's not even that the audience hates VFX, they don't. But the real gems of visual effects like Avatar and Dune has become rare. The artists are overworked, underpaid and uncredited. Many VFX looks bad simply because the artists aren't given time to finish it, not because they're cheaping it out. It's not just Hollywood, the whole VFX industry is in a bad shape.
Send this to the Academy
the people who nominate films for academy awards are the visual effects artists in the film industry who are working today. it’s not some committee of old farts like the golden globes
This reminds me of Angels and Demons with the whole material thing. I also think Ron Howard could have pulled off directing this
Oppenheimer===the Godzilla Prequel movie
Once Openhiemer read - (vishu )I am the destroyer of the world
Meanwhile Christopher
I AM THE DESTROYER OF CGI 😂
total CHAD to wear a Max Max hat on the Oppenheimer sets lol
2:07 That explosion was so underwhelming at the cinema.
The trinity test explosion was sooo000oo underwhelming!! I was in the theater and my thoughts where...thats it???
90% of the comments saying Oppenheimer deserve best VFX? does people even know what vfx is?
Thank you🙏💕
Damn amazing.
Barbenheimer
the stock sound effect 😭
Normies won't even know that Angel Studio's "After Death" did the same sort of sfx on a double-digit fraction of the cost this year.
So, y'know - eat it Nolanphants!
Already has the oscar❤❤❤❤❤
Didn’t even make the top 20 unfortunately 😢
Totalmente absurda la desición de NO Nominar lo a Mejores Efectos Visuales en serio.
Esta vez los Oscars han perdido mi respeto por completo.
what tf are people on about?! the oscar shortlist annoucement is on the 21st december
Nah they missed the ball on the trinity explosion. Too many sparks, too much going on in all directions. It should be a giant ball of plasma, expanding equally in all directions, not a bunch of fireworks.
i want more
Eh, visual effects were alright. But I could think of other movies that are more deserving of it year, though.
Better vfx than barbie
Sorry, but that nuclear explosion was so very underwhelming (and I saw it in IMAX) and now they want a pat on the back for blowing up a couple barrels of gasoline and filming it in slow motion, like that's supposed to win them an Oscar? :D
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...and somehow this does not get nominated for oscars but fucking quantumania does.
For anyone who didn't know, Oppenheimer has zero CGI shots. _ZERO._ Everything you saw, from the explosions to the particles to the surreal visions was done practically.
That's absolutely not true unless you think he shot the earth being consumed by nuclear fire in camera for real. At the very least there's a heavy use of digital compositing. DNEG did over 100 shots combined from over 400 elements. I highly doubt there's no 3D renders in there too. Never believe directors and actors who say "They did it all for real" just because there was something practical on set. Top Gun was full of CGI (literally every shot of a jet), this is full of VFX and probably some CGI for the ending shots and some stuff like having the map ripple like water.
That's only what they say :) truth is different though
@@GrandHighGamer You basically just talked yourself out of your own dissent 😂
@@GrandHighGamerwhat he meant by no cgi was there weren’t any shots in the movie that were entirely cgi. It was always either no cgi whatsoever or cgi enhanced practical effects.
Well they them self’s promoted as no CGI Vfx in their marketing campaigns also not to mention, they didn’t credited 100’s of artists who actually worked in vfx. That’s what the film makers and marketing wanted and that’s what they got well deserved not to be on nominations. Can’t have your hands in all the cakes marketing peeps. Sad to see they are trying to change the narrative again with this video. People need to be called out, on trying to pull this type of crap. #vfxunion All vfx and CGI artists need to join union see how writers guild got things sorted don’t be scared and join vfx union so things like this are not pulled by production houses.
Old school effects
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Why is the title of this video visual effects? Are they now not only lying to the audience that there was no cgi, but now also lying that these effects are visual effects? Visual effects are post production done on a computer, these are shot IN CAMERA and are referred to as special effects. Don't allow them to confuse you further...
Vfx!!! in his movie 😂
the dude rejects cgi, like oil rejects water
This never gets old 😂
Chris Nolan doesn't reject CGI. He just tries to capture a lot in camera. His movies still have cgi, Oppenheimer does as well. Oppenheimer does not have any shots that are completely CGI, doesn't mean that some of the imagery was enhanced digitally. There was still a vfx team working on the movie.
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The fact that it wasn't even in the top 20 for the Oscars is a complete joke
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You mentioned their is cg in blast episode what the shit is this
Ant-Man 3 made it to the Top 20 but this didn’t…
That explosion honestly is bad
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Why did they have to mix dialogue and music at the same level?! Ruined the whole film!
Effect were great but nuke explosion scene is underwhelming
The Academy proves once again they are an unfunny joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No VFX mfs when this movie isn't nominated for best VFX-
I thought there wasn't any??