Mixing the Stuka with scenes from Flying High was genius. It is interesting how the pilot/rear gunner team was so prevalent in pre war combat aircraft design but proved so ineffective defending itself in actual combat.
Tbf the gunner pilot combo proved very effective in ww1 when aircraft were still nothing but wings of canvas and wood strapped to an engine and the close engagement ranges and much longer engagement times in ww1. The designers just never thought it would be obsolete in ww2
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq surely not.?..just don,t call me Shirley....apols for the Airplane reference.....good vid..maybe some SOE/ WW2 resistance stuff down the line with a smidgen Allo Allo....keep up with the great work that you do sir...best wishes from the wirral...E
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq surely not.?..just don,t call me Shirley....apols for the Airplane reference.....good vid..maybe some SOE/ WW2 resistance stuff down the line with a smidgen Allo Allo....keep up with the great work that you do sir...best wishes from the wirral...E
I actually think US Navy dive bombers were effective with rear gunners. Remember that bombers like the B-17 and B-24 shot down more fighters than actual fighters.
It,a the planes you don't hear, like the Beaufighter...which decimated German ,Italian and Japanese shipping, sometimes overshadowed by the De Haviland Mosquito..
World war II classic vintage airplanes that would be good in the Ukrainian conflict the stucca would be one of them you can add flares in other kind of measures against missiles you can maybe add former sensor pods you can use it link that to a tablet in the in in for cow pit like GPS like how they have the GPS mounts and modern cars think that would work trying to rewire the whole advantage aircraft you could use the tablet as your computer screen they light enough and small enough you can fit in a small world to airplane cow pit just with a special mount on the internet so you can see you do a lot of things with a modern tablet anyway so why not sensors onto a vintage classic world war II plane I don't know how successful to integration would be on that but I think you could get pretty good assess there's a few sturdy old birds that can carry modern armament that drones used today and I think they could be pretty deadly I think a mosquito The genome in mosquito can carry a lot of glider bombs a B-17 can carry a whole button and drones maybe you can carry a butt ton of that stuff occurs the Coursera can carry hellfires quite easy I know for a fact could carry hellfires rather quite easy
@@eamonnclabby7067 don't you think so world war II planes with a little modifications of some modern technology could be deadly in the conflict against Russia and Ukraine you know give him some modern missile and ordinance by the way you know he made a movie discussing this with it was one of the lesser sequels to are an iron eagle poets from a air show took old fashioned world war II planes and retro set them with hellfires and they did a lot of damage to a bad guy Air Base it shot down a lot of mix I can see world war two planes kicking the butt of some of the Russian airplanes if they had guided missiles and some of the same armament that attack helicopter is carry don't want your planes could be pretty dangerously formidable if you give them up with some of the modern weapons even in their time period and even today they could be nasty I know the c for Corsair can carry I'll leave you 16 hellfires easily even more maybe I think the bearcat can even carry about 20 hellfires some crazy amount of missiles and add some modern sensor pods to them you really really would increase their lethality even ways that their original engineers and designers and p
The Stuka was also used as a tank killer on the Eastern Front. Some models had 37mm autocannon for this task. The highest decorated German air Ace was Hans-Ulrich Rudel who destroyed nearly 500 tanks and lived to a ripe old age.
Claimed 500 tank destroyed. Aces on both sides vastly overstated their kill claims, and as far as I know Rudels claims have never been properly compared to soviet records. The total tank kills claimed by the luftwaffe has been compared to soviet records though, and it is clear that german kill claimes outnumber actual tanks destroyed by air power by a factor of about 10 (i'm not taking the time here to look up the source again, but it's easy enough to find if you google it). I don't blame the aces for this, unless the tank explodes or burns, it's very hard to see if you actually destroyed a tank or just hit it, this can clearly be seen on some gun camera footage that is available on youtube. Anyway, I'm doubtfull of the 500 tanks, that would mean Rudel is responsible for destroying about 0.6% of all tanks the soviets lost on the eastern front.
@@slome815 Tanks destroyed is always a propaganda figure. The range is mobility kill to explosive disassembly, and everything in-between. Israel made this clear with the admission of single-digit tank losses in the 2006 war compared to many dozens if not hundreds of tanks removed from battle. Anyway, Chris from military aviation history covers all this for the Stuka at ruclips.net/video/tiFBs4PW6pE/видео.html
@@slome815 I think Rudel was a egregious self promoter. He claimed to have shot down half the red army airforce and sunk the navy, too. No doubt he was decent at his job but 500 tanks…..? Nope.
You forgot to mention the 2000 ground targets as well. I tend to agree with the other comments on the 500 tanks that they probably disabled or knocked out but then largely repaired or salvaged. His skill and legend still should not be scoffed either, he had Stalin personally order a 100,000 rouble ransom on his head. He sank the battleship Marat and a few other lesser ships during his 2500 flights during the war. This is very well documented by many sources so I question why his record is questioned. He was a very lucky man to had survived the war and his book is well worth the read.
@@ianmclaughlin8987 I don't doubt his skill, I do doubt his claims. In the case of Rudel cited sources are almost invariably Rudel himself, and sometimes his colleagues. Case in point is the 100 000 ruble bounty. This is copied so often on the internet that it is assumed to be true by most, yet the only sources for this are Rudel and Hartmann. Not a single soviet source. The soviets did have a system of rewards for pilots (Order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR No.299 of 19 August 1941), but this was all generic, not targeting specific aces. The battleship Marat was attacked by a flight of 30 stukas, at least two of which scored a hit. It does seem likely that Rudel's bomb was the one that hit the magazine and sank the ship. Not to mention all sides are well documented to have constantly overclaimed when it comes to aircraft downed, and tanks destroyed as well. Why would Rudel be an exeption? By 1943 even the german high command reduced claimed tank kills by 50% as a rule, just because overclaiming and double claimes were so common. Even then the they still estimated way to high. Just to give an example: from 5 july to 31 august 1943 (Kursk) the entire german tank kills claimed on the eastern front were 16 251. The soviet tank losses during this period were 6064 tanks.
My favorite airplane is definitely the stuka. It's just so rugged, mechanical and purpose driven. The sirens are what I would consider It's most distinctive feature....perfect for creating confusion in It's ground support role.
The Stuka’s Jericho siren sound also makes an appearance in the Star Wars universe In season 2, Episode 5 of The Clone Wars, there’s a scene where Republic Y wings are conducting a dive-bombing run on Separatist AA positions, and you can hear a modified Jericho siren sound
3:40, I have never seen this kind of view done in a ww2 movie, yes top down is popular but the detail of this is insane! The shingles all ripping off, and the way the environment reacts to the explosions is just beautiful
Fun fact: In the Battle of Britain (1969) film, the producers were planning to use a real surviving museum Stuka for the movie. It was too expensive to return the plane to airworthiness so they modified some Percival Proctors. They weren’t used in the film as scale models were used instead.
When the producers got their hands on that Model-G Stuka. They said it was easy to get the engine running. It was even painted in the movie colours (I have a picture). Wooden dive brakes and underslung bomb were added. As you say. The airframe was too expensive to repair and make airworthy.
Fun Fact: The accident at the Neuhammer training grounds near Sagen, Germany in 1939 resulted in 13 Ju 87 planes lost when all of them crashed into the ground simultaneously due to miscalculations of their diving height as the result of rolling fog obscuring the ground.
The Stuka has fallen into the same Category as the A10 in that it has become Iconic to the point its use is overrated. Great when you have an ill prepared enemy and air superiority but an easy target for a well prepared enemy.
@@MikeJBeebe at the very least, the A10 can be called a spiritual successor of the Stuka. I doubt that Rudel story since he wasn't that well liked after the war.
@SAMRAAM You write as if the Stukas were just sent haphazardly at the enemy. Stuka doctrine and training clearly said there was to be reconnaissance and fighters escorts on a mission. You didn’t need air superiority to use Stukas, but planning and fighters that would deal with enemy counter-measures. The Luftwaffes doctrine and training of pilots, with emphasis on recon photos and planing, should also dispell this modern idea that the Stuka was a Close Air Support (despit Wikipedia) plane a lá the A-10 Warthog. I’m not saying the JU-87 wasn’t obsolete and thus incurred ever more casualties on that account, but that is not the same as saying it was useless unless there was complete German air-superiority.
@@TommyGlint thanks, my point was more steered towards the point that Hollywood etc has made the a10 and Stuka seem like this super deadly weapon of war and they become overrated. But thanks for the information regarding planning etc
When I first watched Tali-Ihantala 1944, the Fw 190 at 1:14 looked slightly bigger than normal. Movie replica makes it look more like medium size bomber than fighter aircraft. Great research as always Johnny!
my great uncle was a plane mechanic in the war he said the stuka was the easiest and most liked platform they had if they didnt have the parts for it it was so simple that they could just manufacture them themselves or use parts from different planes and altere them
the Stuka is a weird one, you'd think it was more of a gimmick of the time that never really made it anywhere, the whole idea of having a plane fly down into the target only to drop a bomb last minute, where it is at risk of impacting the ground or being picked off by enemy aircraft. you'd think that be a stupid idea. instead, it's one of the most feared aircraft of its time, the first to drop a bomb in ww2, the first to shoot down another plane in ww2, the favorite plane of the most decorated pilot in history, and its sirens are to this day used to invoke fear in the audience.
The diving noise from Dunkirk 2017 is an audio masterpiece that shows just how terrifying the Jericho trumpet and the Stuka was for anyone who faced it shoutout to the audio and design team of Dunkirk
I can't think of a more terrifying experience than being in the basement of your home hearing that horrible high pitched sound of a Stuka diving down somewhere next to your location. it's the stuff of nightmares.
I think the only time a real Stuka has come close to appearing in a post war movie is when the RAFMuseums example was brought up to ground running condition. Ultimately neither it nor the two scaled replicas created for the film made it to the final cut. Its a shame that the FHC's 37mm canon armed restoration of a Stuka will never be competed unless another party takes on the task of finishing and flying it. It would be something to see!
Johnny Johnson 37.3K subscribers Nice to know that you included footage from "Star Trek: Enterprise" Season 4 Episode 2 "Stormfront Part II". It not every day we see a bunch of German Junker Ju 87 Stuka Dive Bombers outfitted with Plasma Laser weaponry..... going up against the 22nd Century Earth starship Enterprise NX-01... an NX Class Exploratory Cruiser armed with state of the art Phase Cannons and Photonic Torpedoes.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Thank you. The NX class Exploratory Cruiser is one of those awesome ships that sadly gets A LOT of hate. Which is a shame... but I'm glad the Enterprise NX-01 got equipped with state of the art Photonic Torpedoes (called Anti-Matter Warheads by the Klingons) which proved to be very very VERY useful in a fight against bigger and better armed opponents such as a 22nd Century Era Klingon Bird of Prey captained by Duras (as you can see here: ruclips.net/video/Y0bcFmRl1l4/видео.html )
Good to see a sense of humour. These vids include a plethora of movies that I don't remember seeing. I'm going to have to go back and look them up. The Ju.87 and Corsair had an inverted gull wing by the way and for similar reasons. That being to keep the under cart from being too long. For the Ju.87, it was to make room for the bomb, for the Corsair, to make clearance for the massive 13' 4" propeller. For a true gull wing configuration look to the Polish PZ-11, or the French Loire 46.
Dropped what I was doing to watch this like a Stuka dropping its bombs *also some more elaboration on the Stuka's features from what I've read from Dunkirk: the inability to stop the wailing of the sirens really irritated Stuka pilots ('drove them mad' in the book), and iirc the Stuka also had some sort of button the automatically pull Stukas out of their dives so that pilots wouldn't crashed if they blacked out
You could set the altitude you wish the plane to level itself, before a dive. If the plane reached the set altitude, it recovered automatically. There is an interview with a Stuka pilot on youtube, he explains how he used that feature to escape a few Spitfires who followed him into a dive, but could not recover.
Oh man ! Excellent vid as always, though I’m so disappointed that you didn’t use the Stuka scenes from “ Pink Floyd The Wall “. That’s a movie that managed to portray the Stuka in a very intimidating, almost scary light. You only get a “ soldier’s eye view “ of it, looking like a weird bird of prey when viewing it from the front and flashing big black crosses under its wings as it passes over…. I guess I can say that those scenes made an impression on me ! 🙂
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Oh gawd! That’ll be a bun fight in a cake shop with opinions flying everywhere. Battle of Britain is a corker, though. In the ‘Help yourself everybody - there’s no escort’ scene when the HE111 hits the North Sea Splat and the music kicks in I get goosebumps - every single time. I’m gonna watch it now just to prove to myself. And that’s not even my favourite scene. (Fave scene clue……….repeat please. ……)
Not a single Stuka remains airworthy, very few of the type remain at all. But the one at the RAF museum in Cosford had its engine restored to running order to provide sounds for Battle of Britain.
Like the Heinkel He-111 the Junkers Ju-87 was to become obsolescent long before the war ended. Whatever its effects on ground targets it was no match against fighter aircraft. British Spitfire pilots had what they called Stuka Parties, whereby as each Stuka went into a dive a Spitfire would follow it. Sometimes all six Stikas would be shot down in the same attack. Though there was the odd occasion when a Stuka pilot got lucky and shot down the Spitfire in front of him, such as happened once at Malta. The Spitfire pilot was so intent on shooting down the Stuka in front of him he forgot about the one behind. He survived being shot down though the wrath of his commanding officer at losing a valuable aircraft, they were very much in short supply at the time, was probably worse than being shot at by the enemy. Though many of them gave excellent service they were out of date by the end of the war. The most decorated Luftwaffe pilot was Hans-Ulrich Rudel who flew the Stuka and was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds. The reputation of the Stuka was such that German S Boats, or E Boats as we called them, were referred by the Germans as the Stuka of the sea. Interestingly the British Motor Torpedo Boats which would face them were known as the Spitfire of the sea. Later in the war radar stations would be set up to detect when the S Boats went to sea and if they did so during the hours of daylight would come under attack from real Spitfires.
The stuka was a specialised diving aircraft and excelled at this better than virtually any other aircraft of the war, even late war. As a consequence however, it had otherwise poor general flight performance (slow and heavy), though it led to several innovations to enable that its diving capabilities be reached such as the automatic pull out system and bomb cradle. It was also reliable, and was used as a platform for close air support and ground attack roles beyond pure dive bombing. One of the most prolific and successful German pilot aces of all time, Hans Ulrich Rudel, achieved his ground kill record flying stukas, primarily the G variant. Very interesting plane and the product of a completely new bombing philosophy. Essentially the first 'smart bomb' ever used.
@1:18 the size of that FW190... almost the size of a HE111 🤪 @3:10, you are right to a degree... I believe there was an auto pilot of sorts that automatically pulled the plane out of the dive once the bomb had been released due to pilots having target fixation and following the bombs down until it was too late
There's a scene in the Hannibal Rising movie (of Lecter fame) in which some Stukas bomb some things (memory is foggy right now) and you actually see one with AT cannons crashing down. And the best thing is that all that is in the beginning of the movie, so you don't have to endure the whole Hannibal origins arc if you don't like it. Cheers!
It was great you included Flying High, being the best Airplane! doco ever, so you probably didn't need to feature anything else. Seriously though, good stuff as always.
Thanks for posting this. There is a Stuka and many other famous planes at the RAF Museum near London (you can get there by train) and I recommend anyone that loves aviation history check it out. Also, the British War Museum and the Churchill War Rooms are great too. All in London.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I forgot to mention that-The Belfast was great and there is a very good restaurant/Bistro almost next door-great burgers and other pub food with a view of the river.
One of the best anti-shipping aircraft of the Second World War. Used by Fleigerkorp X initially against the East coast convoys and poor ‘Dirty British Coasters’ (with a salt caked smoke stack) taking coal to London then against (and nearly closing) the ‘Narrow Seas’ of the English Channel. These merchant marine ships only had light armament - usually Great War Lewis, Savage and Marlin MGs welded onto the rails on the poop or f’castle as the bloody RAF was hiding as usual. Many Ju87’s of FC X were earmarked for the Graf Zeppelin. Navalised Stukas would have made excellent carrier planes. Sturdy under carriage and ability to fit long range fuel tanks plus it was just a very good dive bomber against shipping. As next demonstrated against the RN around Crete and Malta (inc bending HMS’ Lusty Formidable and Indom badly out of shape) and the Med in general. Stukas Could even carry a 2200lbs bomb but had to leave the gunner at home to do it. Prior to the start of the war a demonstration of the Ju87’s efficacy went a bit wrong when low clouds caused them to dive blind and most of them went straight into the deck. So at least there was a a happy ending in that one. One Stuka pilot ended up winning the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, Diamonds, Rubies, Unicorn Horns, Dark Matter and extra Fudge. Lucky him. Extra 5 bonus points for getting the literary reference.
@@geordiedog1749 totally agree, off to paddle my quinquerime to Nineveh, if I can remember where I left the paddle... recommend the King in the North by Max Adam's another Geordie ,about King /Saint Oswald, who JRR Tolkein based Aragorn on...best wishes from the wirral, site of the great battle of Brunanburh/Bromborough 937AD,Wirral,namechecked albeit in Welsh in the medieval poem of sir Gawain and the green knight...E
I dont know what is is, but hearing that siren sends chills down my spine... it's like its passed on through the generations who experienced it first-hand. My great-grandparents and grandparents lived through the Blitz.
In Spain most dive-bombing attacks that were carried out by the condor legion used the older Henschel 123 biplane (and He 51s early on). Only a handful of the early JU-87a model saw some limited use in that war.
Love Johnny’s work only thing I would change for this video is that the Stuka had many variants and the main offensive armament of two 7.92 machine guns was eventually changed in favour of 20mm cannons or in one specific variant the 37mm underwing cannons which only carried 6 rounds for each gun.
It’s amazing how people see the Stuka as vulnerable, slow, and unmaneuverable, and yet without bombs they were capable of turning with some fighters, even able to score victories against other planes like fighters and ground attack aircraft.
8:15 while not wrong you forgot to mention that the D-5 got 2x 20mm Mg 151/20 with 500 rounds each and the G-1/2 got instead 2x 3,7 cm Bk 37 and the D series also started to be armored and got an Mg 81Z in the back.
One thing that hampered the Stuka in antishipping strikes in the early war 1939-1940 period. Was the lack of armour piercing anti ship bombs, during the Norwegian campaign 1940 the low stock piles of them meant that they always ran out of these bombs and therefore had to use more conventional bombs if an airstrike against ships was needed to be done. The Stuka is one of those aircraft in history that when given a chance to operate in a environment with little to no aerial opposition, it could excel beyond its written stats. The British Fairy Swordfish falls somewhat into the same category as the Stuka, it too excelled as a naval aircraft, mostly due to that the environment it operated in had mostly no aerial opposition, but once it faced it, like during the famous "Channel Dash", it to like the Stuka suffered severe casualties. The American TBD Devastator could also have been viewed as an excellent strike aircraft. But it is seen as a complete failure, as it mostly operated in a highly hostile aerial environment, with little to no protection from friendly fighters, it was also let down by very poor performing torpedoes. Which meant a high casualty rate with almost little to no return for its effort. The Japanese Kate or Val in contrast are not really seen as failures. The above mentioned aircraft is roughly from the same mid 1930's generation of strike aircraft, most of them are concidered as "successes" for their given time, but given a completely different environment to operate in, they too could have had a different reputation, than they historically got. 🤔🤔🤔
A Stuka appeared in First Squad: The Moment of Truth (2009), a Russian-Japanese-Canadian anime. It is a D model, but has the landing gear of the early war A variant.
To be fair, a Stuka was also the first German aircraft to be shot down in WW2 - the Stuka that shot down a Polish PZL P11c, was in turn shot down by the Pole's wing-man. This happened early on September 1st 1939.
The siren noise has been a dead horse trope in Hollywood. There should be a scene in a movie where a plane is diving or crashing and then the camera pans over to the co-pilot or passenger who is holding their phone up and the phone is playing a Stuka sound. Then the pilot yells at them to turn the sound off. So they do and then reply that they thought it might be fun.
My grandfather told me a bit of a weird story involving probably a Stuka: The German command sent a bunch of tanks to cross a river and engage the enemy, but one by one, they got shot to pieces on the bridge. Then Air support was apparently requested and a Stuka appeared. It flew over the bridge in a circle and in the distance AA cannons were fired, but they were too far away to pose a threat. The plane flew a few more rounds without attacking the enemy, but then dropped its bombs and flew back. Apparently, the plane did spot the enemy cannons but found them not worth his time and thus radioed HQ to confirm, that there are no tanks to hunt. Attacking the cannon position would have required the Stuka to get closer to the enemy AAs and all that for a few cannons infantry soldiers could do short work of (though with considerable losses). So, it seems they were arguing over wasting precious ammunition and risking a plane vs sacrificing a bunch of soldiers! Then, my grandfather crossed the river along with the other soldiers. He spotted one of the cannons quite a bit afar from the original position. It had been flipped over, but it seemed to be still functional (and wasn't visibly warped). However, they couldn't find a single trace of enemy soldiers at the position. It was probably almost abandoned, except for the artillery crew and a few soldiers as support to delay the Germans. I guess the most probable scenario is that they all ran off when they saw the single plane circle the sky like an eagle. However, they didn't find any soldiers in proximity and had no further enemy contact for quite a while. What they found however were some of their own soldiers who had been unlucky enough to not make it across the bridge in time when the Soviets pushed the Wehrmacht back... (earlier). A few of them were still alive when they found them, but all they could do was to put them out of their misery!
I was fortunate to talk to a former Luftwaffe pilot that flew stukas during the early part of WW2. After the battle of Britain, his unit was reformed and retrained he flew 109s & later 190s. He gave me his uniform insignia. I got to talk to him many times about the planes he flew.
I’m just saying, whose ever idea it was to slap sirens on this bad boy was a fucking genius. I read in “With the Old Breed”, apparent the US tested blaring ground based sirens towards Japanese positions to see if it prompted surrender, but of course all it did was deprive Marines of sleep. I wonder if the Stuka was the inspiration for that idea lol
Well, German pilots clearly disagree with you about the Sirens being a “genius” idea - starting in 1941, and certainly by ‘42, they had them removed from the planes. They impacted flight performance and gave the enemy on the ground a warning to look up. It might just be a 10-15 sec warning, but there’s absolutely no reason to give them even that. Imagine diving on artillery postions with half deaf gunners, only a 4,000 ft to see them scatter and AA traversing in your direction, because you blew a warning siren… Undoubtedly every single WW2 documentary has had them added to all Stuka scenes by producers and sound technicians, because…. well, it’s a Stuka. But no, the pilots hated them, and took them off.
Well, I was just saying how scary the sirens were. They were undoubtedly effective at negatively impacting enemy morale. I didn’t mean they were “genius” performance wise, but thx for the extra info A-hole
In my 'other life', when I'm not commenting on your RUclips videos, I run a couple of Blogs on female Seventies Pop from the satellite nations of the former Soviet Bloc, the general one, 'Girls Of The Golden East' and the Fan Blog for Valérie Čižmárová, 'Bananas For Breakfast' (found via the Gravatar link in my RUclips profile) and I once, at 'Bananas For Breakfast', contrasted the angular, singularly unlovely Ju 87 with its Japanese counterpart 'named after' Valérie by the Americans, the gorgeous Aichi D3A 'Val' - as curvaceous in all the right places as was Valérie. For one, like me, with an interest in Czechoslovakia (and we tend to overlook this here in the UK, with the Czech pilots that served in the RAF) it is extremely interesting that one of the most notable WWII airmen to have been born in the then just under one-year-old nation of Czechoslovakia was the Ju 87 pilot, Egbert Jaeckel (Raspenau/Raspenava near Reichenberg/Liberec), who I understand was quite an idol of the teenage girls in Germany for his boyish good looks, who was famous for not making for home as quickly as his Ju 87 could take him after pressing home his attacks on the Eastern Front but hanging around to 'mix it' with the Soviet fighters, in one encounter becoming one of the few Ju 87 pilots to have claimed a 'kill' against a (Soviet) Spitfire. Eventually, Egbert Jaeckel's bravado told for him at the young age of just Twenty-Three, much to the intense grief of his teenaged admirers.
My Moms maiden name is Junker. Had the occasion to meet a distant relative who told me luftwaffe officials wouldn't approve retractable landing gear on the Ju-87 Stuka. If they could have installed them it would have performed like the Vought F4U Corsair. Imagine the battle of Britain if that were allowed.
Excellent video Johnny, too bad you forgot the scene from "Burnt by the sun 2: Exodus" (2010) and the Nigel Davenport Stuka quote from the beginning of "Play Dirty" (1969).
The scene from 2:51 looked like a gag from the old time kiddy comic; a man clinging to the flying plane. Looks so unreal. And the pilot 2:53 looked as if he is Mr. Bean in his show LOL.
The Stuka operated at Stalingrad at the limit of its endurance.It was used to bomb supplys crossing the Volga.Not sure if it bombed targets on the east side of the Volga.But Soviet fighters were taking a toll.
Every tank was a Tiger, every plane was a Stuka.
In the Pacific, every plane was a Zero.
Every gun an 88.
And everyone had an mp40
Every Allied soldier is American
Means Bismarck in every battleship
Mixing the Stuka with scenes from Flying High was genius. It is interesting how the pilot/rear gunner team was so prevalent in pre war combat aircraft design but proved so ineffective defending itself in actual combat.
lol I've been itching to use that movie for some laughs for awhile now. This was as good of an opportunity as any.
Tbf the gunner pilot combo proved very effective in ww1 when aircraft were still nothing but wings of canvas and wood strapped to an engine and the close engagement ranges and much longer engagement times in ww1.
The designers just never thought it would be obsolete in ww2
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq surely not.?..just don,t call me Shirley....apols for the Airplane reference.....good vid..maybe some SOE/ WW2 resistance stuff down the line with a smidgen Allo Allo....keep up with the great work that you do sir...best wishes from the wirral...E
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq surely not.?..just don,t call me Shirley....apols for the Airplane reference.....good vid..maybe some SOE/ WW2 resistance stuff down the line with a smidgen Allo Allo....keep up with the great work that you do sir...best wishes from the wirral...E
I actually think US Navy dive bombers were effective with rear gunners. Remember that bombers like the B-17 and B-24 shot down more fighters than actual fighters.
Ahhh the diving Stuka...the sound of every diving, crashing, allied aircraft seen in Hollywood.... And even MiGs
It,a the planes you don't hear, like the Beaufighter...which decimated German ,Italian and Japanese shipping, sometimes overshadowed by the De Haviland Mosquito..
World war II classic vintage airplanes that would be good in the Ukrainian conflict the stucca would be one of them you can add flares in other kind of measures against missiles you can maybe add former sensor pods you can use it link that to a tablet in the in in for cow pit like GPS like how they have the GPS mounts and modern cars think that would work trying to rewire the whole advantage aircraft you could use the tablet as your computer screen they light enough and small enough you can fit in a small world to airplane cow pit just with a special mount on the internet so you can see you do a lot of things with a modern tablet anyway so why not sensors onto a vintage classic world war II plane I don't know how successful to integration would be on that but I think you could get pretty good assess there's a few sturdy old birds that can carry modern armament that drones used today and I think they could be pretty deadly I think a mosquito The genome in mosquito can carry a lot of glider bombs a B-17 can carry a whole button and drones maybe you can carry a butt ton of that stuff occurs the Coursera can carry hellfires quite easy I know for a fact could carry hellfires rather quite easy
@@eamonnclabby7067 don't you think so world war II planes with a little modifications of some modern technology could be deadly in the conflict against Russia and Ukraine you know give him some modern missile and ordinance by the way you know he made a movie discussing this with it was one of the lesser sequels to are an iron eagle poets from a air show took old fashioned world war II planes and retro set them with hellfires and they did a lot of damage to a bad guy Air Base it shot down a lot of mix I can see world war two planes kicking the butt of some of the Russian airplanes if they had guided missiles and some of the same armament that attack helicopter is carry don't want your planes could be pretty dangerously formidable if you give them up with some of the modern weapons even in their time period and even today they could be nasty I know the c for Corsair can carry I'll leave you 16 hellfires easily even more maybe I think the bearcat can even carry about 20 hellfires some crazy amount of missiles and add some modern sensor pods to them you really really would increase their lethality even ways that their original engineers and designers and p
@@matthewfergusons4318 No.
And helicopters.
A Stuka scream can briefly be heard added to a TIE fighter's whine in Star Wars as it chases an X Wing above the Death Star.
Absolutely. I wanted to use that but I get fearful of the copyright monsters everytime I consider using a Star Wars scene.
But......there's no air in space....m
@@Symphinitystug_III that's Star Wars for you...
Tie Fighter have their own distinct Siren noise, Tie fighter scream is inspired by the Stuka Siren
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The Stuka was also used as a tank killer on the Eastern Front. Some models had 37mm autocannon for this task. The highest decorated German air Ace was Hans-Ulrich Rudel who destroyed nearly 500 tanks and lived to a ripe old age.
Claimed 500 tank destroyed. Aces on both sides vastly overstated their kill claims, and as far as I know Rudels claims have never been properly compared to soviet records. The total tank kills claimed by the luftwaffe has been compared to soviet records though, and it is clear that german kill claimes outnumber actual tanks destroyed by air power by a factor of about 10 (i'm not taking the time here to look up the source again, but it's easy enough to find if you google it).
I don't blame the aces for this, unless the tank explodes or burns, it's very hard to see if you actually destroyed a tank or just hit it, this can clearly be seen on some gun camera footage that is available on youtube.
Anyway, I'm doubtfull of the 500 tanks, that would mean Rudel is responsible for destroying about 0.6% of all tanks the soviets lost on the eastern front.
@@slome815 Tanks destroyed is always a propaganda figure. The range is mobility kill to explosive disassembly, and everything in-between. Israel made this clear with the admission of single-digit tank losses in the 2006 war compared to many dozens if not hundreds of tanks removed from battle. Anyway, Chris from military aviation history covers all this for the Stuka at ruclips.net/video/tiFBs4PW6pE/видео.html
@@slome815 I think Rudel was a egregious self promoter. He claimed to have shot down half the red army airforce and sunk the navy, too. No doubt he was decent at his job but 500 tanks…..? Nope.
You forgot to mention the 2000 ground targets as well. I tend to agree with the other comments on the 500 tanks that they probably disabled or knocked out but then largely repaired or salvaged. His skill and legend still should not be scoffed either, he had Stalin personally order a 100,000 rouble ransom on his head. He sank the battleship Marat and a few other lesser ships during his 2500 flights during the war. This is very well documented by many sources so I question why his record is questioned. He was a very lucky man to had survived the war and his book is well worth the read.
@@ianmclaughlin8987 I don't doubt his skill, I do doubt his claims. In the case of Rudel cited sources are almost invariably Rudel himself, and sometimes his colleagues. Case in point is the 100 000 ruble bounty. This is copied so often on the internet that it is assumed to be true by most, yet the only sources for this are Rudel and Hartmann. Not a single soviet source. The soviets did have a system of rewards for pilots (Order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR No.299 of 19 August 1941), but this was all generic, not targeting specific aces.
The battleship Marat was attacked by a flight of 30 stukas, at least two of which scored a hit. It does seem likely that Rudel's bomb was the one that hit the magazine and sank the ship.
Not to mention all sides are well documented to have constantly overclaimed when it comes to aircraft downed, and tanks destroyed as well. Why would Rudel be an exeption? By 1943 even the german high command reduced claimed tank kills by 50% as a rule, just because overclaiming and double claimes were so common. Even then the they still estimated way to high.
Just to give an example: from 5 july to 31 august 1943 (Kursk) the entire german tank kills claimed on the eastern front were 16 251. The soviet tank losses during this period were 6064 tanks.
My favorite airplane is definitely the stuka. It's just so rugged, mechanical and purpose driven. The sirens are what I would consider It's most distinctive feature....perfect for creating confusion in It's ground support role.
The il2 was a better Plane in every regard. Ju87 were obsolete at the start of the war. At least when the Enemy had Planes.
It's called the Jericho siren.
The Stuka’s Jericho siren sound also makes an appearance in the Star Wars universe
In season 2, Episode 5 of The Clone Wars, there’s a scene where Republic Y wings are conducting a dive-bombing run on Separatist AA positions, and you can hear a modified Jericho siren sound
3:40, I have never seen this kind of view done in a ww2 movie, yes top down is popular but the detail of this is insane! The shingles all ripping off, and the way the environment reacts to the explosions is just beautiful
Fun fact:
In the Battle of Britain (1969) film, the producers were planning to use a real surviving museum Stuka for the movie. It was too expensive to return the plane to airworthiness so they modified some Percival Proctors. They weren’t used in the film as scale models were used instead.
When the producers got their hands on that Model-G Stuka. They said it was easy to get the engine running. It was even painted in the movie colours (I have a picture). Wooden dive brakes and underslung bomb were added. As you say. The airframe was too expensive to repair and make airworthy.
I didn't they RC model's then.
Fun Fact:
The accident at the Neuhammer training grounds near Sagen, Germany in 1939 resulted in 13 Ju 87 planes lost when all of them crashed into the ground simultaneously due to miscalculations of their diving height as the result of rolling fog obscuring the ground.
@ Well, its 13 less stukas bombing random houses in Britain or France a few years later atleast
@@M50A1 Yeah. Absolutely.
@ The Reich needed to die
@@Spade_1917 rather side with nazis the commies
You don't really know what fun means, do you?
The Stuka has fallen into the same Category as the A10 in that it has become Iconic to the point its use is overrated. Great when you have an ill prepared enemy and air superiority but an easy target for a well prepared enemy.
Stuka ace Hans Rudel actually contributed to the A-10 project.
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@@MikeJBeebe at the very least, the A10 can be called a spiritual successor of the Stuka. I doubt that Rudel story since he wasn't that well liked after the war.
@SAMRAAM You write as if the Stukas were just sent haphazardly at the enemy. Stuka doctrine and training clearly said there was to be reconnaissance and fighters escorts on a mission.
You didn’t need air superiority to use Stukas, but planning and fighters that would deal with enemy counter-measures.
The Luftwaffes doctrine and training of pilots, with emphasis on recon photos and planing, should also dispell this modern idea that the Stuka was a Close Air Support (despit Wikipedia) plane a lá the A-10 Warthog.
I’m not saying the JU-87 wasn’t obsolete and thus incurred ever more casualties on that account, but that is not the same as saying it was useless unless there was complete German air-superiority.
@@TommyGlint thanks, my point was more steered towards the point that Hollywood etc has made the a10 and Stuka seem like this super deadly weapon of war and they become overrated. But thanks for the information regarding planning etc
When I first watched Tali-Ihantala 1944, the Fw 190 at 1:14 looked slightly bigger than normal. Movie replica makes it look more like medium size bomber than fighter aircraft. Great research as always Johnny!
Thanks as always! 🙏
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It looks gigantic...
In a way, it looks terrifying.
Yeah, the sigle proppeller is as big as a human...
my great uncle was a plane mechanic in the war
he said the stuka was the easiest and most liked platform they had
if they didnt have the parts for it it was so simple that they could just manufacture them themselves or use parts from different planes and altere them
the Stuka is a weird one, you'd think it was more of a gimmick of the time that never really made it anywhere, the whole idea of having a plane fly down into the target only to drop a bomb last minute, where it is at risk of impacting the ground or being picked off by enemy aircraft. you'd think that be a stupid idea. instead, it's one of the most feared aircraft of its time, the first to drop a bomb in ww2, the first to shoot down another plane in ww2, the favorite plane of the most decorated pilot in history, and its sirens are to this day used to invoke fear in the audience.
The diving noise from Dunkirk 2017 is an audio masterpiece that shows just how terrifying the Jericho trumpet and the Stuka was for anyone who faced it shoutout to the audio and design team of Dunkirk
''Aiplane'' and ''Star Trek'' in this video : PURE GOLD !!
I can't think of a more terrifying experience than being in the basement of your home hearing that horrible high pitched sound of a Stuka diving down somewhere next to your location. it's the stuff of nightmares.
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My man. 8th months subscribed too, back when I hardly had any subscribers.
Don’t the Stuka sirens sound like Tom’s screams from Tom and Jerry?
LOL :-)
lol yes, yes they do.
Ha!
I think the only time a real Stuka has come close to appearing in a post war movie is when the RAFMuseums example was brought up to ground running condition. Ultimately neither it nor the two scaled replicas created for the film made it to the final cut. Its a shame that the FHC's 37mm canon armed restoration of a Stuka will never be competed unless another party takes on the task of finishing and flying it. It would be something to see!
There is a good photo of the Proctor conversion on the Dave's Warbirds website.
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37.3K subscribers Nice to know that you included footage from "Star Trek: Enterprise" Season 4 Episode 2 "Stormfront Part II". It not every day we see a bunch of German Junker Ju 87 Stuka Dive Bombers outfitted with Plasma Laser weaponry..... going up against the 22nd Century Earth starship Enterprise NX-01... an NX Class Exploratory Cruiser armed with state of the art Phase Cannons and Photonic Torpedoes.
I'm a big Trek fan so I try to include it whenever possible :)
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Thank you. The NX class Exploratory Cruiser is one of those awesome ships that sadly gets A LOT of hate. Which is a shame... but I'm glad the Enterprise NX-01 got equipped with state of the art Photonic Torpedoes (called Anti-Matter Warheads by the Klingons) which proved to be very very VERY useful in a fight against bigger and better armed opponents such as a 22nd Century Era Klingon Bird of Prey captained by Duras (as you can see here: ruclips.net/video/Y0bcFmRl1l4/видео.html )
Good to see a sense of humour. These vids include a plethora of movies that I don't remember seeing. I'm going to have to go back and look them up. The Ju.87 and Corsair had an inverted gull wing by the way and for similar reasons. That being to keep the under cart from being too long. For the Ju.87, it was to make room for the bomb, for the Corsair, to make clearance for the massive 13' 4" propeller. For a true gull wing configuration look to the Polish PZ-11, or the French Loire 46.
8:14 the stuka had 7.92 mm mg 15, they were later replaced with 20 mm at the D-5, and then with 37 mm cannons at the G models.
Thank god I have notifications turned on, love the videos and keep up the good work man!
Thanks man really appreciate the feedback. I'll try and keep 'em coming for ya.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq thank you! I always learn something from your videos
Dropped what I was doing to watch this like a Stuka dropping its bombs
*also some more elaboration on the Stuka's features from what I've read from Dunkirk: the inability to stop the wailing of the sirens really irritated Stuka pilots ('drove them mad' in the book), and iirc the Stuka also had some sort of button the automatically pull Stukas out of their dives so that pilots wouldn't crashed if they blacked out
Another original gangster with the support. Thanks as always brother.
You could set the altitude you wish the plane to level itself, before a dive. If the plane reached the set altitude, it recovered automatically. There is an interview with a Stuka pilot on youtube, he explains how he used that feature to escape a few Spitfires who followed him into a dive, but could not recover.
Gotta love the Star Trek clips you include in each of these videos when relative 😁
Great sound of aircraft
Oh man ! Excellent vid as always, though I’m so disappointed that you didn’t use the Stuka scenes from “ Pink Floyd The Wall “. That’s a movie that managed to portray the Stuka in a very intimidating, almost scary light. You only get a “ soldier’s eye view “ of it, looking like a weird bird of prey when viewing it from the front and flashing big black crosses under its wings as it passes over…. I guess I can say that those scenes made an impression on me ! 🙂
I know right! I realized that shortly after posting this video I did Pink Floyd wrong.
Remember watching Dunkirk in the theaters and the sound of the stuka and even the sound of gunshots was so good and loud it made you cover your ears
B of B is one of my mostest favourite films but the Stuka scenes now take some serious willing suspension of disbelief.
Brilliant video as always JJ.
A personal favorite of my mine too. Will play a big role when I finally get around to the Spitfire!
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Oh gawd! That’ll be a bun fight in a cake shop with opinions flying everywhere.
Battle of Britain is a corker, though. In the ‘Help yourself everybody - there’s no escort’ scene when the HE111 hits the North Sea Splat and the music kicks in I get goosebumps - every single time. I’m gonna watch it now just to prove to myself. And that’s not even my favourite scene. (Fave scene clue……….repeat please. ……)
Not a single Stuka remains airworthy, very few of the type remain at all. But the one at the RAF museum in Cosford had its engine restored to running order to provide sounds for Battle of Britain.
So I have some movie watching to do, especially the Star Trek movie with Stuka's flying over New York. 😂
Lloyd Bridges jumping out of the tower made my day
Awesome content...
So glad I subscribed to your channel....
Didn't know that the stuka dropped the first bombs of WW2.
Thanks man. Glad to have you here!
Thanks for the history channel. Suggested reading is Stuka Pilot by Rudel. He has two rear seaters that shot down more then 5 planes each.
@0:08,I know that's "bloody" Michael Cane from his recognize voice tone even though he's wearing a pilot oxygen face mask and pilot head gear.
Sir Michael was also the voice of the RAF ground controller in 'Dunkirk'. A nice link to Sqn/Ldr Canfield.
Like the Heinkel He-111 the Junkers Ju-87 was to become obsolescent long before the war ended. Whatever its effects on ground targets it was no match against fighter aircraft. British Spitfire pilots had what they called Stuka Parties, whereby as each Stuka went into a dive a Spitfire would follow it. Sometimes all six Stikas would be shot down in the same attack. Though there was the odd occasion when a Stuka pilot got lucky and shot down the Spitfire in front of him, such as happened once at Malta. The Spitfire pilot was so intent on shooting down the Stuka in front of him he forgot about the one behind. He survived being shot down though the wrath of his commanding officer at losing a valuable aircraft, they were very much in short supply at the time, was probably worse than being shot at by the enemy.
Though many of them gave excellent service they were out of date by the end of the war. The most decorated Luftwaffe pilot was Hans-Ulrich Rudel who flew the Stuka and was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds.
The reputation of the Stuka was such that German S Boats, or E Boats as we called them, were referred by the Germans as the Stuka of the sea. Interestingly the British Motor Torpedo Boats which would face them were known as the Spitfire of the sea. Later in the war radar stations would be set up to detect when the S Boats went to sea and if they did so during the hours of daylight would come under attack from real Spitfires.
Good movies Johnny
Thanks man. Always good to hear from my original gangsters.
Great production, footage, and info! This is quintessential youtube material.
Really appreciate the kind feedback 🙏
Imagine if this revolutionary aircraft was fully replaced with the JU -187.
It would be interesting to see you talk about the shotguns of ww1 and ww2.
That is why uncle Hans seems so stoic when we ride a roller coaster and it goes on a steep dive while all are screaming there souls out.
Another great upload, would live to see video about other great aircraft aswell. Keep it up man!
You got it. I'll try to add aircraft more frequently to the mix.
I saw a clip from a Vietnam movie . A US commander is getting overrun and is trying to get some air support, "what do you need, some frigging Stukas"
The stuka was a specialised diving aircraft and excelled at this better than virtually any other aircraft of the war, even late war. As a consequence however, it had otherwise poor general flight performance (slow and heavy), though it led to several innovations to enable that its diving capabilities be reached such as the automatic pull out system and bomb cradle. It was also reliable, and was used as a platform for close air support and ground attack roles beyond pure dive bombing. One of the most prolific and successful German pilot aces of all time, Hans Ulrich Rudel, achieved his ground kill record flying stukas, primarily the G variant. Very interesting plane and the product of a completely new bombing philosophy. Essentially the first 'smart bomb' ever used.
@1:18 the size of that FW190... almost the size of a HE111 🤪
@3:10, you are right to a degree... I believe there was an auto pilot of sorts that automatically pulled the plane out of the dive once the bomb had been released due to pilots having target fixation and following the bombs down until it was too late
The Stuka is my favorite plane. Mainly for the sound and the design
There's a scene in the Hannibal Rising movie (of Lecter fame) in which some Stukas bomb some things (memory is foggy right now) and you actually see one with AT cannons crashing down. And the best thing is that all that is in the beginning of the movie, so you don't have to endure the whole Hannibal origins arc if you don't like it. Cheers!
A Stuka played an important role in Pink Floyd's "The Wall" from 1982.
Definitely regret overlooking that
Good analysis. They were certainly as dangerious as any panzer when in air support.
It was great you included Flying High, being the best Airplane! doco ever, so you probably didn't need to feature anything else.
Seriously though, good stuff as always.
I recently found your channel and I am on board. Love the edits and your selection of clips
Thanks so much! Welcome to the channel :)
Thanks for posting this. There is a Stuka and many other famous planes at the RAF Museum near London (you can get there by train) and I recommend anyone that loves aviation history check it out. Also, the British War Museum and the Churchill War Rooms are great too. All in London.
Great recommendations! Don't forget the Belfast :)
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq I forgot to mention that-The Belfast was great and there is a very good restaurant/Bistro almost next door-great burgers and other pub food with a view of the river.
"So If YoU HeAr A STukA SiREn fRoM A JU87 StUkA In A DiVe, ThAt's ProBabLy ThE TAilGUnnER" priceless
One of the best anti-shipping aircraft of the Second World War. Used by Fleigerkorp X initially against the East coast convoys and poor ‘Dirty British Coasters’ (with a salt caked smoke stack) taking coal to London then against (and nearly closing) the ‘Narrow Seas’ of the English Channel. These merchant marine ships only had light armament - usually Great War Lewis, Savage and Marlin MGs welded onto the rails on the poop or f’castle as the bloody RAF was hiding as usual. Many Ju87’s of FC X were earmarked for the Graf Zeppelin. Navalised Stukas would have made excellent carrier planes. Sturdy under carriage and ability to fit long range fuel tanks plus it was just a very good dive bomber against shipping. As next demonstrated against the RN around Crete and Malta (inc bending HMS’ Lusty Formidable and Indom badly out of shape) and the Med in general. Stukas Could even carry a 2200lbs bomb but had to leave the gunner at home to do it.
Prior to the start of the war a demonstration of the Ju87’s efficacy went a bit wrong when low clouds caused them to dive blind and most of them went straight into the deck. So at least there was a a happy ending in that one.
One Stuka pilot ended up winning the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, Diamonds, Rubies, Unicorn Horns, Dark Matter and extra Fudge. Lucky him.
Extra 5 bonus points for getting the literary reference.
Liked the poetic license....the new Bard of Northumbria...
@@eamonnclabby7067 How is I can’t remember what I had for breakfast but can remember a poem from my English lit. O level?
@@geordiedog1749 totally agree, off to paddle my quinquerime to Nineveh, if I can remember where I left the paddle... recommend the King in the North by Max Adam's another Geordie ,about King /Saint Oswald, who JRR Tolkein based Aragorn on...best wishes from the wirral, site of the great battle of Brunanburh/Bromborough 937AD,Wirral,namechecked albeit in Welsh in the medieval poem of sir Gawain and the green knight...E
PS ,the Beaufighter was probably the most lethal Anti shipping plane of WW2 ,my old da RIP, guarded said planes in North Africa and Malta...
@@eamonnclabby7067 I shall check that out. I haven’t heard of it. I’ll write it on my hand in case I forget!
I dont know what is is, but hearing that siren sends chills down my spine... it's like its passed on through the generations who experienced it first-hand. My great-grandparents and grandparents lived through the Blitz.
Keep doing what your doing Johnny, if you could see how fast I click your videos you would be in shock!
Thanks so much man. Love the positive feedback.
"Most likely the tail gunner screaming." Love it!
In Spain most dive-bombing attacks that were carried out by the condor legion used the older Henschel 123 biplane (and He 51s early on). Only a handful of the early JU-87a model saw some limited use in that war.
Anyone remember that 1 Call of Duty Mission where you have to shoot down several stuka for an objective in a T34 on the Eastern Front?
A fellow Finest Hour fan is see.
Funny I don't recall the Stuka ever being retrofitted with plasma cannons and scrambled against a starship in low-orbit :)
The Ju 87 is without a doubt my favorite German aircraft of the early war years of WW2.
Just completed a 1/32 revell Stuka. Nice detail
Very cool. Would love an RC one to buzz the farm dogs with.
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For so long i thought the siren was just the sound a plane makes when moving fast. That's how prolific it is lol
Really got your mileage out of the airplane clips for this video
This was a squeeeeze for my video collection forsure
Love Johnny’s work only thing I would change for this video is that the Stuka had many variants and the main offensive armament of two 7.92 machine guns was eventually changed in favour of 20mm cannons or in one specific variant the 37mm underwing cannons which only carried 6 rounds for each gun.
Stuka go brrrrrrrrrrr
It’s amazing how people see the Stuka as vulnerable, slow, and unmaneuverable, and yet without bombs they were capable of turning with some fighters, even able to score victories against other planes like fighters and ground attack aircraft.
8:15 while not wrong you forgot to mention that the D-5 got 2x 20mm Mg 151/20 with 500 rounds each and the G-1/2 got instead 2x 3,7 cm Bk 37 and the D series also started to be armored and got an Mg 81Z in the back.
One thing that hampered the Stuka in antishipping strikes in the early war 1939-1940 period.
Was the lack of armour piercing anti ship bombs, during the Norwegian campaign 1940 the low stock piles of them meant that they always ran out of these bombs and therefore had to use more conventional bombs if an airstrike against ships was needed to be done.
The Stuka is one of those aircraft in history that when given a chance to operate in a environment with little to no aerial opposition, it could excel beyond its written stats.
The British Fairy Swordfish falls somewhat into the same category as the Stuka, it too excelled as a naval aircraft, mostly due to that the environment it operated in had mostly no aerial opposition, but once it faced it, like during the famous "Channel Dash", it to like the Stuka suffered severe casualties.
The American TBD Devastator could also have been viewed as an excellent strike aircraft.
But it is seen as a complete failure, as it mostly operated in a highly hostile aerial environment, with little to no protection from friendly fighters, it was also let down by very poor performing torpedoes.
Which meant a high casualty rate with almost little to no return for its effort.
The Japanese Kate or Val in contrast are not really seen as failures.
The above mentioned aircraft is roughly from the same mid 1930's generation of strike aircraft, most of them are concidered as "successes" for their given time, but given a completely different environment to operate in, they too could have had a different reputation, than they historically got.
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A Stuka appeared in First Squad: The Moment of Truth (2009), a Russian-Japanese-Canadian anime. It is a D model, but has the landing gear of the early war A variant.
Oooohh this is cool! It'd be neat to see one of these for the Bf 109
HNY Johnny✌ greeting from Thailand🇹🇭
Hey man glad to have anyone from Thailand on the channel!
Fun fact, the stuka had it to where it would level out if the pilot passed out. They still use that in most AG planes
like these .... keep it up
a fun fact you didn't mention is the use of ju87 as glider tug in 1940
I would imagine being a guy from late-1930s fishing on a pond then all of a sudden, you heard a siren from the skies.
Best Scene from Airplane! 5:31
The Germans used the Stuka like flying artillery. I thought it was funny to have the scene from Star Trek Enterprise hilarious 😂.
To be fair, a Stuka was also the first German aircraft to be shot down in WW2 - the Stuka that shot down a Polish PZL P11c, was in turn shot down by the Pole's wing-man. This happened early on September 1st 1939.
Great video!
The siren noise has been a dead horse trope in Hollywood.
There should be a scene in a movie where a plane is diving or crashing and then the camera pans over to the co-pilot or passenger who is holding their phone up and the phone is playing a Stuka sound. Then the pilot yells at them to turn the sound off. So they do and then reply that they thought it might be fun.
Little correction: The caliber of the MGs was 7.92mm, 7.92x57, AKA 8mm Mauser.
Hope to see P51 mustang, the creation, the effectiveness during the war, myth and others
Izetta the Last Witch is one of My favorite Anime of all time.........except for that magical shoujo bullshet .
My grandfather told me a bit of a weird story involving probably a Stuka:
The German command sent a bunch of tanks to cross a river and engage the enemy, but one by one, they got shot to pieces on the bridge. Then Air support was apparently requested and a Stuka appeared. It flew over the bridge in a circle and in the distance AA cannons were fired, but they were too far away to pose a threat. The plane flew a few more rounds without attacking the enemy, but then dropped its bombs and flew back. Apparently, the plane did spot the enemy cannons but found them not worth his time and thus radioed HQ to confirm, that there are no tanks to hunt. Attacking the cannon position would have required the Stuka to get closer to the enemy AAs and all that for a few cannons infantry soldiers could do short work of (though with considerable losses). So, it seems they were arguing over wasting precious ammunition and risking a plane vs sacrificing a bunch of soldiers!
Then, my grandfather crossed the river along with the other soldiers. He spotted one of the cannons quite a bit afar from the original position. It had been flipped over, but it seemed to be still functional (and wasn't visibly warped). However, they couldn't find a single trace of enemy soldiers at the position. It was probably almost abandoned, except for the artillery crew and a few soldiers as support to delay the Germans. I guess the most probable scenario is that they all ran off when they saw the single plane circle the sky like an eagle. However, they didn't find any soldiers in proximity and had no further enemy contact for quite a while. What they found however were some of their own soldiers who had been unlucky enough to not make it across the bridge in time when the Soviets pushed the Wehrmacht back... (earlier). A few of them were still alive when they found them, but all they could do was to put them out of their misery!
I was fortunate to talk to a former Luftwaffe pilot that flew stukas during the early part of WW2. After the battle of Britain, his unit was reformed and retrained he flew 109s & later 190s. He gave me his uniform insignia. I got to talk to him many times about the planes he flew.
You’re very regular with your uploads. I hope you keep it up even when you run out of WWII weapons
I'll probably dip into other eras. I wouldn't even mind tackling some sword and shield stuff. Thanks for the feedback 🙏👍
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Sword and shield is welcome as far as I'm concerned 👍🏻
I’m just saying, whose ever idea it was to slap sirens on this bad boy was a fucking genius. I read in “With the Old Breed”, apparent the US tested blaring ground based sirens towards Japanese positions to see if it prompted surrender, but of course all it did was deprive Marines of sleep.
I wonder if the Stuka was the inspiration for that idea lol
Well, German pilots clearly disagree with you about the Sirens being a “genius” idea - starting in 1941, and certainly by ‘42, they had them removed from the planes.
They impacted flight performance and gave the enemy on the ground a warning to look up. It might just be a 10-15 sec warning, but there’s absolutely no reason to give them even that.
Imagine diving on artillery postions with half deaf gunners, only a 4,000 ft to see them scatter and AA traversing in your direction, because you blew a warning siren…
Undoubtedly every single WW2 documentary has had them added to all Stuka scenes by producers and sound technicians, because…. well, it’s a Stuka. But no, the pilots hated them, and took them off.
Well, I was just saying how scary the sirens were. They were undoubtedly effective at negatively impacting enemy morale. I didn’t mean they were “genius” performance wise, but thx for the extra info A-hole
Also, note it only had one engine. Much less thirsty than the Luftwaffe's bombers, and yet it could carry almost as much in bombs.
The A10 is the modern Stuka: out of date, slow, but always useful and instils fear with its sound. Brrrrp
Great video as always !!!!
In my 'other life', when I'm not commenting on your RUclips videos, I run a couple of Blogs on female Seventies Pop from the satellite nations of the former Soviet Bloc, the general one, 'Girls Of The Golden East' and the Fan Blog for Valérie Čižmárová, 'Bananas For Breakfast' (found via the Gravatar link in my RUclips profile) and I once, at 'Bananas For Breakfast', contrasted the angular, singularly unlovely Ju 87 with its Japanese counterpart 'named after' Valérie by the Americans, the gorgeous Aichi D3A 'Val' - as curvaceous in all the right places as was Valérie.
For one, like me, with an interest in Czechoslovakia (and we tend to overlook this here in the UK, with the Czech pilots that served in the RAF) it is extremely interesting that one of the most notable WWII airmen to have been born in the then just under one-year-old nation of Czechoslovakia was the Ju 87 pilot, Egbert Jaeckel (Raspenau/Raspenava near Reichenberg/Liberec), who I understand was quite an idol of the teenage girls in Germany for his boyish good looks, who was famous for not making for home as quickly as his Ju 87 could take him after pressing home his attacks on the Eastern Front but hanging around to 'mix it' with the Soviet fighters, in one encounter becoming one of the few Ju 87 pilots to have claimed a 'kill' against a (Soviet) Spitfire.
Eventually, Egbert Jaeckel's bravado told for him at the young age of just Twenty-Three, much to the intense grief of his teenaged admirers.
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Take care, and all the best.
My Moms maiden name is Junker. Had the occasion to meet a distant relative who told me luftwaffe officials wouldn't approve retractable landing gear on the Ju-87 Stuka. If they could have installed them it would have performed like the Vought F4U Corsair. Imagine the battle of Britain if that were allowed.
5:33 "He's coming right at us" guy looks like British PM Boris Johnson
Excellent video Johnny, too bad you forgot the scene from "Burnt by the sun 2: Exodus" (2010) and the Nigel Davenport Stuka quote from the beginning of "Play Dirty" (1969).
Damn. Where were you when I was making this video lol
The scene from 2:51 looked like a gag from the old time kiddy comic; a man clinging to the flying plane. Looks so unreal. And the pilot 2:53 looked as if he is Mr. Bean in his show LOL.
The Stuka operated at Stalingrad at the limit of its endurance.It was used to bomb supplys crossing the Volga.Not sure if it bombed targets on the east side of the Volga.But Soviet fighters were taking a toll.
Fun fact: you can hear the sirens of the stuka only when he goes at 400 km for hour
Gotta love the Stuka siren for its fear tactics