This was right up our alley - this technology not only improves safety, allowing each tire to work to it's maximum grip level more of the time, it can also improve performance! What's not to love? Never have experienced anything like this - Learn more about the drivetrain system here - Automakers, BUY THIS POWERTRAIN SYSTEM! www.magna.com/products/power-vision/electrified-powertrain-technologies/etelligentreach
I enjoy your reviews because they are 1. Practical and involve average real driving habits and scenarios 2. informative and includes constructive critiques 3. honest options expressed as opinions not statements of fact. ¹¹ Today's Magna car test drive had me wanting to hop in the driver's seat and play too.😄🤗💖
Looks like this is first coming in the next Range Rover PHEV and BEV in 2023 - 2024 ! I think because Range Rover would not do BEV without Range Rover Capabilities . I am very impressed ...No wonder Range Rover Jaguar have put BEV on hold presently makes sense.
While the old school automotive journalist continue whining how EVs aren’t as fun as ICE, Kyle and the out of spec continues to prove them wrong. Thank you!! This type of deep dive into all the new upcoming innovations is much needed!
I'd like to compliment Kyle and the team on the initiative to develop a relationship with Magna, and for engaging their team in an intelligent fashion, resulting in some substantive, informative and highly interesting dialog and demos. In other videos, for example driving reviews, I sometimes find Kyle's narrative patter a bit too stream-of-consciousness, relentless and wearing for my taste. So it's refreshing to see him tone that down for an interview situation, bringing to bear knowledge from experience and having done some serious homework and preparation, and achieving a quite watchable balance of enthusiastic questions and interjections with allowing the interviewee to speak. Well done!
You're right. I had the word "relentless" in the wrong place in the sentence. I have moved it. I also added "for my taste" on the end, for those readers who missed the "I sometimes find" phrase as a cue that my contrasting critical statement describes me and my impression, and does not purport to be an authoritative judgement on Kyle.
So you are integrating braking and propulsion to act together. Could it also improve ABS by using faster and more precise response of an electric motor for riding/crossing the edge of a friction and friction brakes as a base? (ie 90% friction brakes and 9-11% motor braking)
So, you will be one of the first to get behind the wheel of a Fisker Ocean One right???? :) The top spec models will have this and it's going to have 550hp.
Quite interesting video. How does this system handle wind side loads on a wet roadway. When I was in college with a group of three in the car, with rain the car was pushed off the road by a sudden burst of wind coming out from underneath an overpass. What an experience as the car did a 360 and we ended up in a ditch. Luckily no damage to either occupants or the car. Could this system respond fast enough in this type of situation and keep the car on the road??
Autocar UK had an article about Jaguar’s new platform for it’s upcoming electric models. “The new platform will be jointly developed by JLR engineers and automotive supply giant Magna, which builds the Jaguar I-Pace” said the article.
Ability to quickly change how the car handles via breaking bits feel like the Rimac Nevera modes which you can dial through. Having that ability for less that 2M is nice.
@@tribalypredisposed They've made 50 prototypes, been crash tested, and have collected 50,000+ reservations and are now taking non-refundable deposits of $5000. Its coming.
Kyle, was that an ocean on the lift behind you????? Not the obvious Ipace you drove, but that black beauty that we saw before you point the camera toward the wheelwell hardware.Be honest
This is wonderful ❤ I look forward to getting it as an after market upgrade to existing vehicles. Is it only for electric vehicles? It is such an innovative safety feature, it should be available for all vehicles. I am excited about any assistance that enhanses driver control.
all this awesome tech aside they really should just give the iPace an internal update to the latest battery and charging tech. Styling wise it was ahead of its time but now I see it as a good looking car that could be selling well with new batteries. let's call it the iiPace
@@Pixelplanet5 your assuming standard torque levels, ev output to the diff can be considerably higher often requiring a far more robust design, in layman terms its like taking the diff from a Veyron and putting it in a golf
This is screaming PSM Plus, but anyway kind of wish he dug deeper on "single model for acceleration and deceleration" thing though of course there must have been too little time to fully take that in. Must be like a brand new MATLAB project file that disconnects gas pedal and engine(or motor) ECU completely instead of like augmenting inputs for the first time in history.
Greetings, love your videos and great work. Very thorough review as always. Could you do a review of the 2023 Nissan Ariya while you are in Europe? It is my favourite car i want to buy Sometime Next Year or Year after after, according to availability. Thank you kindly, appreciate your work. Much Respect.
You know, I thought that my 2019 Jaguar I-PACE will be more reliable since it was built by Magna-Steyr. LOL. It's the most unreliable car I've ever had! I actually had JLR repurchase the car under CA lemon law.
Tesla AWD models have separate brake controls for each wheel... it is how they do traction control on four separate wheels. They can control the speed of front and rear motors and then they can brake individual wheels more or less to get full control over each wheel...
When you get to this point, just have four motors and be done with it. Fewer components, ability to regen for brake each wheel individually. cost of separate motors vs. the additional clutches is likely a wash.
Totally disagree. For extreme situations like this the single peak of one motor is not enough to have full control over the vehicle - having a mechanical differential on the rear means you can send even more power to an individual wheel. This is probably my largest complaint with my Rivian - keep maxing out what each motor can do.
This was right up our alley - this technology not only improves safety, allowing each tire to work to it's maximum grip level more of the time, it can also improve performance! What's not to love? Never have experienced anything like this - Learn more about the drivetrain system here - Automakers, BUY THIS POWERTRAIN SYSTEM!
www.magna.com/products/power-vision/electrified-powertrain-technologies/etelligentreach
I enjoy your reviews because they are 1. Practical and involve average real driving habits and scenarios 2. informative and includes constructive critiques 3. honest options expressed as opinions not statements of fact. ¹¹
Today's Magna car test drive had me wanting to hop in the driver's seat and play too.😄🤗💖
Is this the Powertrain system going into the Fisker Ocean? I hope so, I just ordered One
Also, I'm waiting to hear that car companies are developing a measure of publicity in units of RUclips viewer-minutes per cubic meter of tire rubber.
Looks like this is first coming in the next Range Rover PHEV and BEV in 2023 - 2024 ! I think because Range Rover would not do BEV without Range Rover Capabilities . I am very impressed ...No wonder Range Rover Jaguar have put BEV on hold presently makes sense.
Kyles enthusiasm makes EV ownership fun and makes this channel interesting. Thumbs up.
While the old school automotive journalist continue whining how EVs aren’t as fun as ICE, Kyle and the out of spec continues to prove them wrong. Thank you!! This type of deep dive into all the new upcoming innovations is much needed!
I'd like to compliment Kyle and the team on the initiative to develop a relationship with Magna, and for engaging their team in an intelligent fashion, resulting in some substantive, informative and highly interesting dialog and demos. In other videos, for example driving reviews, I sometimes find Kyle's narrative patter a bit too stream-of-consciousness, relentless and wearing for my taste. So it's refreshing to see him tone that down for an interview situation, bringing to bear knowledge from experience and having done some serious homework and preparation, and achieving a quite watchable balance of enthusiastic questions and interjections with allowing the interviewee to speak. Well done!
Gotta love those compliments with insults embedded within.
You're right. I had the word "relentless" in the wrong place in the sentence. I have moved it. I also added "for my taste" on the end, for those readers who missed the "I sometimes find" phrase as a cue that my contrasting critical statement describes me and my impression, and does not purport to be an authoritative judgement on Kyle.
Truthfully - This is my favorite video you've done. Absolutely incredible! The future of EV's is in good hands with Magna.
Wow, Bloody Wow. This is an awesome review and video. I need this. Thanks
"This is how we drive to the grocery store"
"Mmhmm, I actually believe that"
😂
Single pedal driving with our EV6 exceeds our expectations. It's a really cool feature.
I love my ev6 just done a 300 mile road trip got to go back on Thursday. Everything worked charging no problem even got free charge at a supermarket.
@@gordoncrichton7657 The EV6 loves to take a charge. They’re happy cars eager to please.
You guys are prolific with the output the past week. Keep up the good work
So you are integrating braking and propulsion to act together. Could it also improve ABS by using faster and more precise response of an electric motor for riding/crossing the edge of a friction and friction brakes as a base? (ie 90% friction brakes and 9-11% motor braking)
So, you will be one of the first to get behind the wheel of a Fisker Ocean One right???? :) The top spec models will have this and it's going to have 550hp.
Where do I learn to drive on the edge like this? Impressive systems! We need this not just on sports cars, but ambulances and trucks too. Impressive.
Thanks Kyle. Amazing. MAGNA started as a Canadian auto parts supplier. Now it seems to be a top BEV manufacturer. Not bad eh? (I'm Canadian too 😅)
Ich bin auch ein Teil der Magna in Graz, bin Stolz auf die großartige entwicklung zur e-mobilität
Quite interesting video. How does this system handle wind side loads on a wet roadway. When I was in college with a group of three in the car, with rain the car was pushed off the road by a sudden burst of wind coming out from underneath an overpass. What an experience as the car did a 360 and we ended up in a ditch. Luckily no damage to either occupants or the car.
Could this system respond fast enough in this type of situation and keep the car on the road??
Autocar UK had an article about Jaguar’s new platform for it’s upcoming electric models. “The new platform will be jointly developed by JLR engineers and automotive supply giant Magna, which builds the Jaguar I-Pace” said the article.
Brilliant explanation. Shows what should be standard on a £70k car.
Can we just talk about how hot the Magna employee is 🔥😅
That'll work.
Ability to quickly change how the car handles via breaking bits feel like the Rimac Nevera modes which you can dial through. Having that ability for less that 2M is nice.
Fisker and Magna!
When can these improvements be added to EVs? Are any OEMs currently considering these as options?
This is how we go to the grocery store in America. I believe you - hahahahaa😆
This will be in the Fisker Ocean. The only difference is that the Fisker will have much more power.
This test car had 320 Kw = 430 HP. The Ocean will have 410 Kw = 550 HP.
If Fisker makes and sells any.
@@tribalypredisposed They've made 50 prototypes, been crash tested, and have collected 50,000+ reservations and are now taking non-refundable deposits of $5000. Its coming.
@@jondevansky186 their UI currently is a black screen with the word Fisker on it.
@@tribalypredisposed They contracted all the development out. Do you think they just forgot about the UI?
Kyle, was that an ocean on the lift behind you????? Not the obvious Ipace you drove, but that black beauty that we saw before you point the camera toward the wheelwell hardware.Be honest
Impressive ☝🏻✨
Kyles, please review Renault Megane e tech electric
Will this be in the Fisker Ocean?
This is wonderful ❤ I look forward to getting it as an after market upgrade to existing vehicles. Is it only for electric vehicles? It is such an innovative safety feature, it should be available for all vehicles. I am excited about any assistance that enhanses driver control.
Cool tech!
all this awesome tech aside they really should just give the iPace an internal update to the latest battery and charging tech. Styling wise it was ahead of its time but now I see it as a good looking car that could be selling well with new batteries. let's call it the iiPace
Why wouldn't you just use indvidual wheel drive instead of a torque-vectoring differential?
because thats heavy and expensive.
You would need an individual motor and inverter for each wheel.
Nice job! I wonder when this tech will get into production cars....nudge Mercedes that they should use this instead of weird brake feel in EQS.
November 2022 on the Fisker Ocean
"lane change!" next thing you see is shaky footage because the cameraman is flying around the back of the car xD
As interesting that diff is it’s just not needed with a 4 wheel independent drive ev it’s just a case of careful software calibration
this diff will be significantly cheaper than adding to extra inverters and motors to a vehicle.
@@Pixelplanet5 your assuming standard torque levels, ev output to the diff can be considerably higher often requiring a far more robust design, in layman terms its like taking the diff from a Veyron and putting it in a golf
I was giggling too.
This is screaming PSM Plus, but anyway kind of wish he dug deeper on "single model for acceleration and deceleration" thing though of course there must have been too little time to fully take that in. Must be like a brand new MATLAB project file that disconnects gas pedal and engine(or motor) ECU completely instead of like augmenting inputs for the first time in history.
elon musk watching this goes "4 break by wire units the only way to do this? hold my beer" and does it with a software update :D
Greetings, love your videos and great work. Very thorough review as always. Could you do a review of the 2023 Nissan Ariya while you are in Europe? It is my favourite car i want to buy Sometime Next Year or Year after after, according to availability. Thank you kindly, appreciate your work. Much Respect.
We need the decoupling for flat tow vehicles for RV’s
Ya sure ya want that Phil? Consider a carrier so you can back up. Jus' sayin'.
@@Dive-Bar-Casanova I have one of those. I’d rather flat tow.
This is not required on a road , racetrack only
THIS. IS. ASTOUNDING.
Can’t understand why USA Americans worry about safety in cars , guns seems a different thing
How does this compare with 4 motors' torque factoring in terms of technical difficulty mechanical complexity, performance, and cost?
You know, I thought that my 2019 Jaguar I-PACE will be more reliable since it was built by Magna-Steyr. LOL. It's the most unreliable car I've ever had! I actually had JLR repurchase the car under CA lemon law.
What broke on it?
Tesla AWD models have separate brake controls for each wheel... it is how they do traction control on four separate wheels. They can control the speed of front and rear motors and then they can brake individual wheels more or less to get full control over each wheel...
thats true for basically all cars.
ABS and ESP work entirely based on the fact that they can control each brake individually.
When you get to this point, just have four motors and be done with it. Fewer components, ability to regen for brake each wheel individually. cost of separate motors vs. the additional clutches is likely a wash.
Totally disagree. For extreme situations like this the single peak of one motor is not enough to have full control over the vehicle - having a mechanical differential on the rear means you can send even more power to an individual wheel. This is probably my largest complaint with my Rivian - keep maxing out what each motor can do.
It's a jaguar ev ?
F Pace!
@@aldaley3537 I pace, f pace is the big ice suv
@@Mireaze Okay
Enjoy the heat in Europe! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hands in the air thumbnail....stupid is as stupid does.
Or we could teach people how to drive...lol