Sega Rally - Retrospective and Comparison [Tech Battle Ep 2]
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2018
- For the second episode of Tech Battle we're taking a look at Sega's classic racing game, Sega Rally Championship.
From it's origins as an arcade game for the powerful Model 2 board, to the mandatory Saturn conversion and other interesting ports, we leave no stone unturned looking for all the tiny (and not so tiny) differences that make each version unique.
Read our article for a couple of points that didn't make it into the video: www.thesaturnjunkyard.com/2018...
More info on the Widescreen hack: www.thesaturnjunkyard.com/2018...
3D patch for the PC version: www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t...
Wrapper for higher resolutions: www.sega-16.com/forum/showthre...
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Model 2 was a watershed moment in the industry and M2 games still look beautiful today...
Model 2 is also probably the biggest or most significant leap in the history of arcades, and video games in general. The jump to 3D was huge but the jump to fully texture mapped polys is really where modern games really began and the base they are built off to this day.
Daytona usa with high res textures on the model 2 emulator is fantastic there's also a texture pack for the original sega rally if you Google on them lines you'll find it easily
Lost count how many hours I played Sega Rally on Saturn back in the day...great memories.
Best racer of that gen imo. Gran Turismo was not fun at all
great retrospectives
Brilliantly informative video on the greatest arcade game of all time.
Thank you 👍🏻
Thank you very much for the kind words! We do this out of love for the community, so feedback is always greatly appreciated.
I always played the basic US Sega Rally release with my 3D control pad. I loved the extra sensitivity!
Great video Nuno. keep em coming.
Will do! :)
This was a fantastic video!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
My TOP Arcade Games 90s :
1.Daytona USA
2.Daytona USA 2
3.SEGA Rally Championship
4.SEGA Scud Race/Scud Race Plus
5.Manx TT Superbike
6.Dirt Dash
7.Ace Driver : Victory Lap
8.Crazy Taxi
9.Wave Runner
10.SEGA OverRev
I'am 2000s Kids, but i still Remember This Arcade Games, Nostalgic. Greetings from Indonesia🇮🇩, Southeast Asian.
Sega really dominated the arcade racing scene in the 90's
Hard to argue, but personally I would mix in the old Spy Hunter cabinet in the back.
I never comment on videos but had to say what a fantastic review of the original sega rally. I spent alot of money in my youth on this game, great physics.
Thank you very much, we greatly appreciate it :) Stay tuned for more, as we've got other videos like this in the making
Excellent article my brother, the music was so very you, i wonder how often you had to pause editing to rock out!! I will have to look into the Japanese release, I've got a version on my psp but its not the pure joy that is the original game. :)
Thank you, old friend! The soundtrack really is top notch. Some songs are actually arranged versions from the Ignition soundtrack: ruclips.net/video/cqoILv6DaAM/видео.html
Forgot about the PSP version, quite enjoyed that one.
The Saturn port is one of the reasons why I even got a Saturn. The best is hands down the Model 2 emulator with a steering wheel, but I have just as much fun playing the Saturn port. I love them both equally.
Grande video Nuno!obrigado
Obrigado eu por assistires! Abraço - Nuno
I don’t remember ever seeing Car Settings options on my JPN Saturb version of Sega Rally!
YES Sega Rally Forever!
This was a great video, I didn't know of a couple of ports like the PC port or the PS2 Japan exclusive port. I'm also sad that I couldn't buy the SROA on Xbox 360 back when it was available, but managed to play and complete Sega Rally Revo on my Xbox 360, it is without a doubt the hardest Sega Rally out there, not even SRC2 on the Dreamcast is as hard as SRR.
Thanks. A big part of this series is precisely to bring attention to lesser known ports that most people may not know about. And it is a shame what happened with SROA, but as we mention in the video at least you can emulate the original Sega Rally 3. We can count on the community when the developers themselves don't properly preserve their history
oh my god... it's one of the last bastions of Sega Saturn youtubers!
Amazing video. You sir got a new subscriber!
Thank you! We're already working hard on the next episode. You may also be interested in the first one about Panzer Dragoon, if you haven't watched that already.
Saturn version maybe even better than Arcade imo! Have played hours of time trials lol . Wish ps2 arcade version had extra features from Saturn version
The Saturn soundtrack made that the best version.
i remember playing the PC version on my windows 98 pentium 2 a lot
one thing i used to do in my Play Station 1 Gran Tourismo 2 was to get
Toyota Celica Rally Car (ST185) '91
Toyota Celica Rally Car (ST205) '95
Lancia DELTA HF Integrale Rally Car '92
Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '73
and play Sega Rally GT2 Dirt tracks
I think it is simply more often repeated misinformation that Model 2 had Texture Filtering. It had very high resolution and color textures, but no filtering like bi-tri-linear or Mip Mapping. If Model 2 had filtering they could have simply applied it to the mesh transparencies and nobody would have known it was a mesh. I clearly remember seeing Doom like pixels on road textures in Daytona USA in the Arcades as well. Take a look on System16.com and notice what is missing from the Model 2 list of features.
Nice job!!!
Thank you, Leandro! Appreciate it ;)
Good video!! I love this types of videos! I have a question.. I'm looking to buy a steering wheel. What combo wheel are you using?
Thank you! I was using a Logitech Driving Force GT. I think it hits the sweet spot between entry level and pro wheels, both in terms of quality and price
@@TheSaturnJunkyard thank you! I want to recreate de arcade feel at home the best I can. So I'm looking for steering wheels. I will check out yours. By the way, you got a new subscriber..
@@DarkPhalanax Appreciate it! There are more expensive wheels with stronger force feedback, so if you can afford it you might want to go for a higher spec wheel, but otherwise this is as good as you'll get, cheaper wheels will have very weak force feedback (or none at all) which ruins the experience
There is a "Portable" PC version that's just an .exe and it's the PC version very close to the arcade one. You can play it at any resolution!
Interesting, didn't know about that. Do you perhaps have a link where I could learn more about that?
@@TheSaturnJunkyard You can find it here: archive.org/details/srally1_portable
@@AlessandroSchiassi very interesting, thank you! That seems to be a modified version containing both of the pc versions I mentioned in the video, both the original software mode and the 3D accelerated.
Really entertaining video, thanks.
My favourite version is the Saturn version, mainly for the amazing CD soundtrack and because it finally showed that the Saturn could handle Model 2 racer ports.
I like the Model 2 emulator but don't like the judder caused by it running at 57fps on a 60hz screen.
Thanks for watching, it really was a defining moment in Model 2 conversions after the disaster that was the original Daytona release
Speaking of which, a Daytona comparison would be a good watch. I admire Sega for making a second Saturn version, basically admitting that the first port was shoddy.
DF Retro (a big inspiration for this series) already covered Daytona in one of their videos, check it out ;)
Yes, watched that but your style is good too.
Thank you for your support, we really appreciate it, but as a general rule we'll try to avoid covering the same games as them (Panzer Dragoon was an exception for the simple fact that we we're already working on it when their episode came out). We''ll probably do a sort of spin-off along the lines of "Tech Battle mini" with shorter videos for games that have fewer ports, so who knows, maybe we'll talk about about Daytona in one of those
"Hooray for the digital future!" lol
I'm developing a remake of Sega Rally called Over Jump: I'm keeping the gameplay but I'm updating the graphics. You can check the work in progress at @overjumprally on various social media!
Hi Alessandro. That's awesome! Can you give me a link when you have a playable build? Would love to cover it on the channel
@@TheSaturnJunkyard Absolutely!
*SEGA SATURN wins hands down!!* ⭐️ ❤ ⭐️ ❤ ⭐️
You can't unlock the "Stratos" on arcade versions, this cheat actually just increases the "Boost Pressure" simulated for your car. The car clearly still acts like a 4WD car, which the Stratos is a RWD car and handles very differently in real and in the Saturn version
To do this cheat you only need to do the gear shifts at the car selection too, you do not need to touch the brake at all. (You must move the gear stick out of 1st gear before you begin this too. Dont leave it in 1st and think that will count, you must put it into 1st on the car screen)
Spot on. I actually wrote a companion article for this video where I correct that mistake thesaturnjunkyard.blogspot.com/2018/05/tech-battle-episode-2-sega-rally_4.html
"We talk about an unlockable "secret car" but for the original arcade version this was simply an alternative handling mode for the regular cars. Later on the Saturn port actually added a new car to fit this handling model, the now iconic Lancia Stratos, so many gamers started to retconn the original and refer to that alternative handling as being the Stratos. It is true that the development team stated in interviews that it was their idea to include that 3rd car, which was then cut for time constraints, and the only trace of its existence is that extra handling mode, but back then regular arcade goers didn't know about that."
the arcade board DOESNT have an extra car, its just turbo mode, giving the cars more torque and a different leaderboard. home ports had the 'extra' car which is a stratos and looks like a stratos...... and uses the same leadernoard as the celica and delta. turbo mode can also be enabled on home ports which gives a new leaderboard and is available to all 3 cars........
it's marvellous to ear an english speech with portuguese accent! :)
If I could say anything about Sega Rally 2 emulation. The Dreamcast version only runs on DeMul and still has troubles to maintain.
Supposedly it also works on a recent build of Flycast (the Retroarch version of Reicast), but I haven't tried it myself yet
I downloaded RetroArch then downloaded Flycast core to run with WinCe one Sega Rally and emulator crashed.
@@mateuszpaszkiewicz3831 I feel you, that emulator core can be very finicky and it also crashed on me countless times. Some things you can check: disable shaders, make sure you have any bios files that are necessary
Hi Mateusz. I've since tried Sega Rally 2 with the latest Flycast version (now the regular core and the WinCE core have been merged, there's only one) and it ran great. Have you managed to play it yet?
Long medium right, maybe.
As a kid I always wondered why the co-driver would call me/the driver "BABY!"
Shame I can’t get this running on my SNES Classic.
Saturn Classic when?
Sega Saturn version is my favourite, It looks great on a CRT and has the extras and redbook audio.
The Arcade machine is good but I can't play the other versions without the Saturn extras like the 3D Controller and redbook audio they don't feel right to me.
Ridge Racer was an year earlier tho. ;)
ARCADE 4ever
Sega Rally Revo is so different than Sega Rally 3 in a bad way. The controls feel too realistic ( the car drifts and steers like an actual rally car )
You missed out the PS2 game only released in Japan.
You forgot dreamcadt version
Was there a port of SR1 on the DC? I'm only aware of SR2
@@TheSaturnJunkyard you're right ✅ I had sr2.
Sega Rally 2 also had a remake of Desert 95, Desert SS2 I believe, just check the track map
*a lot of magazines hated Rally 2 and said would rather play the perfect SATURN original any day!*
Maby PC becouse the AI cars in arcade emulation move so fucking strange... Sudden speed changes all the time. I also think the cars you drive move more fluedly in PC and Saturn..... Strange I know
artyom is that you?
No, comrade, I'm Bourbon
Português?
Fica o sub pelo bom conteúdo !
Cool video...you gained a subscriber...
I also love the saturn...pass by my channel...i have some videos dedicated to it....
Game over yeaaahhh
Thank you. Will do!
Es Tuga
Yup :)
o portunhol nao engana que é portugues
Hmmmm that stinky portuguese accent mano reconhece se a distancia xD bom video btw
Беспалевный акцент 😊
I'm not russian, but thank you :D
Saturn version is trash 30fps. Ps2 version is arcade perfect 60fps. Do the math
Phil, inferior yes but trash?
No.
@@billgordon6489 your opinion mate which is what you are entitled to. It's still trash same as daytona on the Saturn. The Saturn was a piece of trash and ruined sega. Dreamcast was an amazing console and if it would of had a dvd drive i think it would of been a massive success.
And calling a game trash because it can't compare to a game released on a later generation machine is fair? The only trash here is your little brain
*you need to play it on SATURN to judge it kid A true player knows it's magical and exciting music on the 32-bit machine*
@@afriend9428kid ?? I'm 56 years of age and have been gaming for 30 years or more. The Saturn is a piece of garbage