Nobody Understands Amy Rose...
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2023
- And now for something completely different.
Don't worry folks, animations aren't going anywhere, I just felt like branching out a bit and doing something new. Today I'm gonna be talking about one of my favourite Sonic characters, Amy Rose. 
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I think Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog brought the old Amy Rose back. Fun, bubbly, wears her heart on heart on her sleeves and optimistic
I agree, but it's also not a mainline game, so we have no idea if that tone will be carried over to the main series.
@@PixelrushTheFunnyPixelManI mean, like Sega said; "Everything is canon."
It technically is since Sage is there
@@BJSolar02then Sonic’s white eyes are lens.
One idea of Amy that after playing the murder of sonic the hedgehog was why not combine what makes her a good character in murder of sonic are hedgehog and what I personally thought was her best portrayal, how she was in sonic boom, have her be fun. And bubbly like you said but also have her be her own strong independent individual like in sonic boom where she didn't depend of being "obsessed with sonic" as her main personality trait y'know
There needs to be a balance in Amy's character just as there needs to be a balance in the stories as well between silliness and seriousness. You can love someone with ferocious passion while still respecting their boundaries.
yes, that'd be the normal thing to do. but these aren't normal characters, they're cartoony. they don't have to behave like real people, especially because they're hardly even people.
You have played Sonic Frontiers right?
@@ArchangelRG09that didn't do that?
@Chillipeffer they did, she respected boundaries unlike her initial appearence. She makes it known she loves Sonic but she is not forcing him
@@ArchangelRG09 You talk as if Amy was just a random that harrassed Sonic.
Glad someone said something about this. Sonic X (the Japanese dub, anyway; I haven't fully watched the English dub) has one of if not my favorite version of Amy. She's super obsessed with Sonic and can get kind of overbearing, but does still care about things and people outside of the blue blur. I really miss that ultra-chaotic energy she used to have, like when everybody returns to Sonic's dimension except Sonic himself and she goes batshit insane throwing like a bajillion hammers at Eggman's ship. It was HILARIOUS
Now, she's just... nice. No over-exuberance, no God-like destructive wrath, just... kind and determined to do good. Those were all aspects of her character before, but there was more than just that. If they want to make Amy's character more "mature," (aka please fans who didn't like her the way she was,) I think the best way to go about it, in my opinion, would be to keep her obsession with Sonic, but tone it down just a little bit. I’ve always liked how funny and endearing Amy was, so replacing it with something more subtle might be a good idea. Show that Amy is trying to take the feedback the Sonic fanbase is constantly trying to offer, but can’t because she’s way too infatuated with Sonic. Instead of having her chase him, have her conveniently appear wherever he goes and then dismiss any questions on how she got there. Have her desperately try to maintain a sane interaction with Sonic that completely flops, and PLEASE, for the love of GAIA, let her be a goddamn MENACE again! I wanna see Amy go full-on Sonic Unleashed opening cutscene on Eggman when he disses Cream or something, idk- I just want to see Amy being Amy, not Amy being “girl who exhibits kindness of a marketable nature.”
I don’t hate Amy in the IDW Comics or Frontiers, but I love Amy in Sonic X and some of the older games. I doubt Sega and Sonic Team will ever go back to the way these characters used to be after Sonic Frontiers’ success, but I just wanted to give my two cents on the whole thing. Your video highlighted a lot of the core issues I have with Amy’s character in recent Sonic media, and I hope future productions, i.e. Sonic Prime, the Sonic movies, do something to make Amy, well, Amy again. Nice work👍
I recommend the dub of Sonic X solely for Amy. Lisa Ortiz is always the voice I hear when I think of Amy.
@PixelrushTheFunnyPixelMan Nice. I'm honestly not that big of a fan of the English dub, but what I've heard of Lisa Ortiz's Amy in- and outside of the dub has been pretty solid. My favorite VA for her, personally, is Taeko Kawata, who’s been voicing her since Sonic Adventure in the JP dubs outside of Sonic Shuffle. I think they both do a good job at capturing Amy’s overpowering enthusiasm no matter her mood, even if I do have a preference.
Fair enough.@@masturvidyo1673
@@PixelrushTheFunnyPixelManLest we forget Amy in Boom where even though she was nice and mature (she even looks her oldest in Sonic Boom), she actually had more personality than given credit for, like everyone else for the sake of pleasing us meme-lovers (seriously, Boom Knuckles will always be known as the “Meme… approved!” guy), as they knew how to have fun with the characters being menaces as the cartoon characters they are supposed to be and while they knew when to be silly (which was most of the time ruclips.net/video/SQwfvuEG1U8/видео.html), they know when to take things seriously without becoming Edgy the Hedgy (who was in every season finale here, Vector was also a cameo in one of the episodes, yet no other Chaotix member, as much as I respect and admire this funny show, what it needed to do the whole time was show us what it would be like if other major characters from Rouge to Cream to Blaze to Silver were in this).
I feel like what you said about Sonic Frontiers is entirely fair. The more down-to-earth tone of the tale necessitated the more exaggerated features of characters to be toned down, and I think that it certainly hurts some more than others, most notably Amy and Knuckles. But, given the reception of The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog's writing, it's very possible we might be getting her old characterization back once Frontiers is through. Hell, who knows? Since she'll be playable in the final update, maybe we'll get to see her more cheerful side.
I really hope so. TMOSTH was honestly a breath of fresh air.
Then again, we also have Final Horizon about to release, so who knows what we’ll get there.
@@crimsongogeta6810Final Horizon? What's that?
Well for amy i can honestly see that but for knuckles not really he was liked before frontier is even came out the archie comic books and adventure games is were most definitely define knuckles as a character compare to the other medias same with tails except for the movies and honestly sonic was more of a shonen character he was goofy sure but not to point were it gets annoying and tails and knuckles were done dirty in the 2010s and don't me wrong i don't mind the goofiness in the sonic series in fact i loved it and always has been hell i even defended amy's personality back in the day and still to this day and the murder of sonic hedgehog was really good too as separate thing didn't play it but seen screenshots and videos of it but the goofy vibe wasn't done right and an overstays
its welcome the 2010s thanks to the writers of happy tree friends the only time it was done right was in the IDW comics which archie comic writer ian flynn wrote in some of the issues,sonic boom tv series and sonic heroes and adventures of sonic the hedgehog and also sega is never going to abandon that style ever is this that frontier was going to total different game as it own thing when comes to story and characters and to me knuckles and tails were fine and that game and still show a little goofy moments with them same with sonic who in which gives me sonic adventures vibe and its still too soon to judge the characters personalities right now its just one game people relax 😗
@@NoHandle44 you been living under a rock dude?
I think only reason why they made the characters in frontiers a lot more melancholy was because it took place in a apocalyptic graveyard so I doubt they’re going to keep that grim tone for the rest of the games going forward.
Let's hope so
Well… that and being partially trapped in a digital pocket dimension without a physical body to interact with, making them little more than lingering ghosts, probably didn’t help much either. I think everyone wouldn’t be in the best of spirits if they were in that situation.
@@jillevers1432Hoping it remains so, the tone of Frontiers I mean, it was peak
Hope so
Eh, they've been through worse
It is really bizarre to find someone else's take on Amy that near perfectly matches my own. Kudos, you really do seem to get the heart and appeal of the character. No compromise, no trying to tone her down or excuses for the gutting of her character just because some people don't appreciate it. Keep on rocking Amybro.
Amen
Amen
Amy is also one of my favorite Sonic characters. I hope that one day there will be a nice balance of what people want from her, but in the end you can't please everyone.
IDW Amy
@@Sebo994I just realised that IDW Amy probably has the best balance in the entire franchise.
@@Sebo994Neh, She's ok in IDW but not so memorable or outstanding, with perhaps a few exceptions.
@@Xenox02-vu9rq but doesn't that mean that IDW Amy is the same Amy in the games??? I mean wasn'tit states IDW is canon?? sooo..what's the issue here?
Pretty much explained why Amy is one of my favorite female Sonic characters. Tho, I will agree Sonic Frontiers has completely ignored the part of her that loves Sonic. Now if this wanted to make a story of her moving on from her crush from Sonic that's fine. But I will miss it.
"These are cartoon characters, let them be goofy!" Please say it louder for the people in the back!
It can be complicated at times, but I understand most of her personality to be honest.
I would have to disagree. Personal I see a lot of the old Amy in Sonic Frontiers.
Compare Amy to how she was in Sonic Adventure and the character traits that made her special is still there:
1. Amy loves Adventure.
The first thing we see Amy talk about during her story in SA1 is how boring things have been since the last time she hung out with Sonic. She misses that thrill. And in Frontiers, we see Amy was going to join Sonic & Tails on their journey to find the Chaos Emeralds.
2. Amy puts others before herself (even if it’s at her own expense)
Amy shows to help the birdie in SA1 find Family, even though she knew trying to do that, could put herself in danger. She literally had nothing to gain from doing this, but she did it, because she knew it was right. In Frontiers, when Amy is freed, the first thing she worries about is Sonic & Tails’ well-being. She doesn’t even seem to phase by her cyber form in that moment, because she’s more worried about her friends. In addition, instead of focusing on getting herself back to normal, she attempts to help the Coco with their struggles.
3. Amy clearly loves Sonic
In Sonic Adventure, it’s made clear Sonic is the one who inspired her and the one she wants to spend her time with. In Frontiers, Amy sticks up for Sonic when Sage claims that he is endangering the world. Later on, although she wants to go off to help others, but Amy fears Sonic and her will grow apart if she does. (Sonic recognizes that fear and reassures her he’ll always be there for her.)
4. Independence
In Sonic Adventure, after reuniting the bird with its family, Amy decides she can have her own adventures independently from Sonic every once in a while. In Frontiers, Amy decides to go on a trip and help those she can.
With all this said, I strongly believe Amy Rose is not out of character in Sonic Frontiers. She is simply involved to suit a more mature story. (The same way. The version of sonic portrayed in Sonic Adventure is different from the one in Sonic Unleashed and Sonic & The Black Knight, despite them both being in character.)
Feel free to have your own thoughts on the matter, but this is my perspective.
Simply YES
Couldn’t have said it better myself! Totally agree
I think you missed the point of the video. Amy's behavior and personality is important to the character, their dynamics and what makes them likeable and entertaining.
If you take that away, then they become boring and sterile.
Amy loving Sonic for example is pointless if it's borederline hidden , as the point of it was how it informs and influences her behavior and creates fun interactions with other characters, namely Sonic himself. Amy and Sonic's interactions are soooo sooooo bland now.
I tottally agree with you
No energy. She has no energy. The end.
Hi! I randomly found you through your post on Twitter about Amy's damsel in distress line!
You basically said EVERYTHING that I've ever felt about this whole Amy debacle. How she was previously and why I liked it, and what's happening now and why I hate it.
I'm so glad that there's other people out there who agree with me!
You dont know how much i've been waiting a video like this. Dude, I was feeling like I was in another universe when people talk about the charaterization of the characters in frontiers.
Good video, you have a new subscriber. 🎉
YOU LITERALLY EXPLAINED EVERY REASON I LOVE AMY SO MUCH, THIS IS AWESOME
I’ve always liked Amy since the beginning and her relatable moments were always fun.
You get it. I’ve always loved Amy because she is bubbly, hyperactive, optimistic, isn’t afraid to express her emotions, and always does what she knows is right. I’ve never seen her as a psychotic fan girl, and she has NEVER been one. She was just a girl with a crush and she wasn’t afraid to show it. Even with her having a crush on Sonic, she isn’t afraid to stand up to him for what she believes. Like in sa1 when he was about to end Gamma, She stood in the way and wouldn’t let Sonic do it and even convinced him not to. And in Frontiers when Sonic wanted to leave the koco to basically fend for themselves, Amy stood up to him because she wanted to help the koco. Unfortunately, Amy has went through a lot of bad writing (like in sonic heroes) and that has affected the way people see her even to this day. People seemed to hate her so much that Sega basically got rid of everything that made Amy special. Like you said, in Frontiers Amy wasn’t lively like she usually is. We get that it was a dark story, but there has been other dark stories (like the adventure games or shadow the hedgehog 05) where she was still just as bubbly. In Sonic Prime, she just acts like a generic main girl. (Talking about normal Amy btw, not her other variants). Luckily in TMoStH she had her bubbly, go lucky personality back and I kinda hope it stays that way.
"I've never seen Amy as a psychotic fan girl and she never was."
Sonic Heroes Amy:
"Sonic this time there's no way out of marrying me!"
*proceeds to beat the shit out of Team Sonic in her campaign so she can have a forced marriage with Sonic*
@@CaptainF123Did you really take seriously a dialogue that was not even serious? All the team fights in Sonic Heroes start for absurd reasons. Besides that whole marriage thing was never mentioned or hinted at afterwards, it was just a dialogue to annoy Sonic and that was it, it wasn't serious at all.
Finally, someone else who understands that she was never a fangirl. Just a girl with a crush.
@@antrox2346
Nono, that was just flanderization.
@@SteveCrafts2k Not so much, because it was really just dialogue to annoy Sonic, just cartoonish character humor is all.
THANK YOU
btw with Amy hitting Sonic or others with hammers, that's because Sonic as a series is Japanese.... y'know how many times Luffy's crew in One Piece has beaten the snot out of him? Anime does this for a laugh and to have characters express a high level of emotion that simply can't be done in real life because... that's actual domestic violence. Nobody complains about any other Japanese media but Sonic gets hit by a cartoony hammer and its like, "THIS SERIES HAS JUMPED THE SHARK!!!"
Yes, people do complain about it. That is one of my (and many others) most hated tropes in fiction. Especially when the ones doing it never receive repercussions themselves despite deserving it. It’s the main reason I hate Nami.
@@EWOODJ Shonen (a lot of anime and japanese media in general) ain't for you then.
Nah! Sakura from naruto get the same hate like amy, always punching naruto for acting stupid on her. People also bash on sakura too from naruto, not just amy from sonic the hedgehog series. It iconic people hate sakura and amy as character, they be main characters be popular in Japan.
@@sugamamaproud9810 grammar.
@@NineTwentyThreeTwentyThree Sorry! My writing is bad.
I really hate the Monkey's Paw this fandom put Amy into. If she's fun, she's annoying. If she expresses love, she's obsessive. If she raises her anger or discontent, she's abusive. If she expresses nothing at all, she's "mature".
These people don't like Amy, hell, they wouldn't care if she were suddenly gone. I loved this character for who she always was, and who she was never needed any fixing, tweaking, erasing, nothing, all she needed was to be respected, we have this year but this is the second Monkey's Paw, all she is now is a stock nice girl that can't express any negative emotions. As someone who grew up with Pucca, I never really had issues with how Amy expressed her love, hell, I think it was charming, how many times does the girl need to passively wait for the boy to confess, if at all? Amy pushes Sonic out of that comfort zone with her outward expressions, he's not used to love, and so, he doesn't know how to respond so he runs away, the catch is that he never goes to his full speed (something people CLEARLY MISS), he lets Amy run after him. For a fandom that wants Sonic to be "not a flat character", nuance is what they fail to understand constantly.
I'm glad someone else realised that he's not REALLY running away from her. Because Amy can't run as fast as Sonic and Sonic can easily zoom away at lightspeed, leaving her in the dust, but he doesn't. Instants like Heroes and Riders clearly highlight this, and yet folks failed to notice for some reason.
Very well done. Great way to integrate animation in a longer video format!
To be fair, Sonic Adventure 2 was also a darker story, but it still had that 90s optimism and energy. That's what made the quieter moments like Shadow's death stand out since it gave the characters time to settle down.
06 also had a dark story... though half the cast was completely oblivious to it until the very end.
And its serious tone feels a lot more genuine than Frontiers, given they have the characters talk normally in SA2. Unlike Frontiers, where everyone sounding old and boring, because supposedly you can't tell a serious story using "cartoony voices."
True. And in that Sonic Adventure 2 game, Amy was the reason Shadow remembered Maria’s promise to him in the near end.
Pixelrush tell's everyone his crush
Shh, don't tell anyone.
Amy really was my first favorite characters in sonic franchise.
I assure you that if Amy had been like she is in Sonic Frontiers since her inception, Amy would not have the great popularity and fan base that she has. Of course, she wouldn't have received as much hate or criticism, but that's what made her memorable and remarkable, whether you like that trope or not. I understand that not everyone likes Amy, and I'm not going to judge them just because they don't like a fictional pink hedgehog either. But it's just that that was the delight of those who liked Amy.
And I'm not saying that her only characteristic should be "I love Sonic" and nothing else, in fact something I like about Frontiers, is that at least they gave her tarot cards some use, since it expands her character and gives her unique and interesting abilities, compared to just using her hammer. I don't feel that Amy needs to mature too much, just let her be herself, with her virtues and flaws that characterized her so much and made her memorable.
Well said
An interesting take I hadn't considered. Would definitely love to hear more of these. A lot of people in the community seem to have been arguing or wondering about the characterizations of the characters and what direction they'll go since Frontiers and Murder of Sonic came out.
Completely agree with everything said in this video. Instead of fixing her character issues they just cut them out and replaced them with nothing.
Now we just have an empty void with Amy’s skin, soulless, no personality, and no heart. Just empty flesh.
7:18
“There’s a hundred Princess Peaches out there.”
Honestly one of the hardest lines to ever be dropped in a video essay about a character
Damn this new format of video is really interesting man, cant wait to see more.
Wow a lot I've never really thought about. I do like how lately Amy crush on Sonic has been downplayed a bit so he feels more comfortable to be around, but I absolutely love her energy and personality she had before. She really stood out, and it's a same a lot of people couldn't appreciate it. (Looking at you, Archie. Keeping her as a background character for most of it).
to be fair on archie, they had millions of characters
I agree. Also, not to sound like a hater or anything, but the reason they treat Amy as a backseat character is to make room for Princess Sally. I mean, think about for a sec, both girls were literally created to be like the love interest for Sonic. Think about it; In one of the Sonic CD manuals (which is most likely the western version), They replaced Amy with Sally yet Sally never made an appearance within the game. So it's safe to assume that SOA was trying to replace Amy with Princess Sally.
I might be wrong and not saying this to hate on Sally, but it kind of makes sense if it's the case.
@@BJSolar02yes and no. SOA had Sally. SOJ has Amy…but they had bad communication with each other. When making the comics, they had many ideas involving the FFs, but they had to do a CD adaptation in the middle of their plans, so they had little ideas on how to handle Amy, kinda like what happened with Tails.
Even when Amy became more popular I guess Archie didn’t want to give up Sally especially since she still had fans.
I dont think you NEEDED to gut her affection for sonic to make him not be completely avoidant of her of a jerk to her is the thing. Just make him used to it since they have been friends for so long.
@@ChaddyFantomeFair point.
Am I seriously the only one who finds Sonic and Amy's dynamic (especially pre-Lost World) similar to that of Kermit The Frog and Miss Piggy?
i prefer the sonic & amy dynamic of the 90s and 00s. you don't get that dynamic in many works of fictions
This video is everything I wanted to say, but couldn't find the words for. Recently I started holding the "it's good that she's evolving" argument just because I couldn't find the specific reasons and words for why I liked pre-frontiers Amy. There was just something about her that makes her interesting and fun. Thank you for saying the words I couldn't find.
I assure you you are not in the minority, I very much lean in the direction of concern and dissatisfaction with how Amy is handled now. It's frustrating too because I feel like on both ends, the people that demand she needed to be "fixed" are both people that dismissed her as having nothing else to her character beyond loving Sonic and on the other, people who seemingly liked Amy but were willing to give up everything that made her fun and unique in order to obtain the approval of people that insisted she was a bad character.
In my experience, there is a massive disparity between the people that complained about her online versus people offline that generally either liked her or didn't have a major problem with her the way she was, which I find rather disheartening.
Amy was that youthful kid sister or female friend you had that alleviated the tension in the room with her good heart, spirit and antics. You found her annoying sometimes, but it was ultimately endearing.
I know we aren't alone in having these criticisms and I can only hope readjustments are made. I just hope we don't have to wait another decade and a half to fix another case of Sonic fan complaints causing another fit of overcorrection.
Enjoyed the video.
I miss Sonic X Amy 😢
I think they're still Canon just look at the little details closely
I know it probably shouldn't count, since Sonic Team wasn't involved in it (rather, it was made by the Sonic Twitter team), but there is a glimmer of hope of the old Amy coming back, and I noticed you didn't bother to mention it.
The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog
I'm glad people are getting in the comments. I don't even have anything to add really (for once). She's passionate, heads-strong, and gung-ho about her decisions (kinda rash). A lot of people just see the crush on Sonic and think that's what causes those traits, but she's like that when he's not the topic too. Taking away the obsession shouldn't turn her into a common modern female lead (the mature, responsible, swiss-army knife)
Am I the only Sonamy fan here?
Your not the only one here.
Nope, fellow SonAmy fan here at your service!
Yup. Sense you can see some stuff that Sega put in with the Hedgehogs.
Sonamy is the reason amy is the way she is now...
AND sonamy is now canon in soni frontiers.
I still love Amy and I think Mashed did her well with the "Something about..." series. The last time we saw her she went all Harley Quinn on us, so that's something.
Pixelrush my man, Minority or not I think you are absolutely right about Amy Rose. I completely agree with everything you said throughout the entire video, She is like a shining pink gem that most people just do not understand because they don’t look deeper into her character and are probably not open minded enough to try to understand her at her core in the first place. Amy is my favorite character also, and i really hope they bring her Passionate over the top personality back real soon. She feels incomplete without it. There really is only one Amy Rose out there, Flaws and all, I don’t think anyone could forget her And impact she has left on us.
"Specifically episode 69"
Nice!
Great video for explaining everything about Amy and why is she the best character
6:06
YES!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who conjured up those kind of thoughts.
What, you did that too?
I appreciated amy the way she was
Yeah, I don’t care for the hollow shell she is now, just get rid of the character if they don’t want her the way she should be.
I always liked Amy’s character sure she can be a bit possessive but that’s what makes her special
I’ll miss the Amy we use to have
I completely agree with everything you said. Sonic isn’t Amy’s ONLY personality, but it is part of it so it shouldn’t be downplayed..or ignored…. *cough* *cough* Sonic Frontiers *cough* *cough* OH how’d that get there….
And I get what you mean when you say in Sonic Frontiers the characters seem out of character, and I don’t like that either…
Its like they want her to be like Sally Acorn, but not that interesting. Felt like it since Sonic Forces.
Amy's personality is far from gone. Did you see how she reacted when Sonic almost refused to continue helping the Koco towards the end of the first chapter? Or better yet, how she responded to Sage showing up and saying Sonic was a threat to the world? In both instances, Amy wasn't just angry, she was genuinely outraged! Her time on that island witnessing the struggles of the Koco, put her feelings into perspective. While Amy always cared for her friends, she felt like she always put Sonic before anyone else, which she began to feel wasn't fair. There's a whole world with amazing people to meet and things to see. Why should Sonic be treated any differently, like he's the only one who's special? She believed that if she only lived with the only goal of eventually being married to someone she's looked up to ever since she first met him, she would just keep restricting herself to a fixed circle, which she then realized she wanted to get out of. Ironically, by chasing Sonic around, she was not living like Sonic. Her new character bio states that Sonic will always be number one in her heart. This, in summary, means that even though she has chosen to go out with friends, go on road trips, maybe make new friends along the way, and see what the world has to offer, Sonic will always be her personal best role model and she will always love and support him, whether that be romantic or platonic, and she will forever cherish her friendship with Sonic. She's not losing her character, she's just stepping outside of her comfort zone, no pun intended with the word 'zone'. Even Tails is doing this by the end of Frontiers, but this is about Amy. Simply put, most elements of her life will no longer revolve around only Sonic. Whether one believes this is a benefit or detriment to her character is entirely up to their interpretation, but in my personal opinion, this is definitely an improvement!
Recall the finale of Sonic Adventure 2. The Space Colony Ark was blitzing its way toward Earth on a collision course to the extinction of all life! While the gang was doing everything in their power to prevent the massive space base from shattering the planet, Shadow was just standing around and waiting for the moment of catastrophe... until Amy stumbled in and vouched in favor of Shadow joining the cause to save everyone, which not only managed to touch him, but it made him recall the full memory of Maria's dying wish. This convinced Shadow to join the effort leading into the final battle. Amy essentially triggered a domino effect that ended up saving the world! If she weren't there to talk to Shadow when she did, the story wouldn't have ended the same- and I reckon it would've been the last story ever told, given the desperate circumstances! If Amy's love for the world could do that even while having an obsession with Sonic, just imagine the potential for her character after the decision she made in Frontiers? Her charisma might just get magnified!
In conclusion, Amy isn't gone. To say she felt off because she didn't spend her time onscreen gushing over Sonic in an exaggerated way is okay. However, to say that she's a shell of her former self is like saying her love for Sonic is her only notable trait as character, which is something not even you agree with and goes against what was said in this video apart from the bits about Frontiers. Her outrage in the two moments from Frontiers that I mentioned, and even her being overly melancholic for the Koco, make it clear that this is still the same Amy. Those moments of Amy's high emotion passion shouldn't have gone ignored. Amy has evolved, in my opinion, not regressed. As someone working to be a writer, Amy's change of perspective and ultimate decision are together a welcome change of pace to me! I am looking forward to see what future Sonic games do with this new version of the pink hedgehog!
Amy's not weak, she's got a hammer! you don't mess with anybody with a big hammer!
Amy best character fr
Damn I think you’re on to something cause I couldn’t put my finger on who she was and why I liked her personality back then, but you said it simply and understood what made her (and the rest of the others) so great!
As bisexual person i understand her 100% its honesly shocking 😂
I can wholeheartedly agree with everything said here. Amy's bombastic personality has definitely been watered down significantly, and I don't think it suits her character. I assumed they wanted to pull her away from the "obsessive fangirl" and "damsel-in-distress" archetypes, but Amy's been shown to subvert these tropes on multiple occasions in both the games and Sonic X. The only area I somewhat disagree with you on is the element of her fortune cards. I always thought that was a neat side-trait of her character, acting as a fun but obscure explanation for how she always managed to find Sonic. I think the officials, in both the games and comics need to find more interesting ways of utilizing them beyond "hey, these exist." Also, the whole "not chasing after Sonic anymore" bit from the new Fast Friends Forever site doesn't really do any favors...
Oh for sure, I don't mind her having a hobby and a fascination for mystical stuff. I think that really speaks to her innocence, like how she thinks meeting Sonic was fate and all. I'm just saying it shouldn't be her only trait.
I have to say, for being a long time sonic fan for many years, I personally feel that their fun and cool personalities aren't what they used to be anymore, and I can honestly say I miss them for that.
My favourites were Amy for how fun, and overly energetic she used to be, and even though I kinda found her annoying for being overbearing at times and always having too much of an obsession for sonic, I always kinda loved that side of her personality because she was passionate and I loved it when she always chased him and was quite overbearing and he got annoyed with her for it because it was funny. Even if she was a bit annoying and sometimes exploded when things didn't go her way, she was selfless, compassionate and kind person at heart who even got through to Shadow with her words of wisdom and heart because she was an emotionally sweet girl who always wore her heart on her sleeve and cause he was always a troubled person by his past, he remember his best friend's wish who was a girl named Maria who lived together with him and she had a terminal illness known as Neuro-Immune Deficiency Sydrome and she died in the most sadest way and he got brainwashed by the doc who made him to seek revenge, but he ultimately turned good and moved on. Even though he was a loner and kinda cold at times, he was always a guy who had a kind heart and was always good, he just had been misguided. He later developed into something amazing by doing what he always felt was right and was no longer controlled by others but rather he chose his own path and left the past behind him not focusing on it anymore, much like sonic when the blue blur does what he feels is right too and that I feel is what really made them similar because sonic always helped people along the way and broke his path to do so, even when he had a really important mission to focus on, while shadow mostly focused on his missions.
I agree with the things you said here i loved sonic frontiers don't get me wrong but i missed the fun and energy of the characters a lot more than i thought i would that feeling you get from boosting in Sonic Unleashed hearung sonic yell WOO felt so energetic and kind of gave me a dopamine rush. Now its mostly gone
I have always loved Amy since I was a kid she is energetic sweet caring and i loved how she was never scared to show her feelings for sonic also one thing I want to point out is that Amy's love is very kid like because she is a kid I feel like people don't understand that
Also I'm glad I found so many people who share the same opinions as me
And the weird thing is she normal in the murder of sonic the hedgehog.
I always loved Amy character, wish they more Amy Rose merchandise.
This was such a beautiful video, because Amy Rose is my favorite character in the series, too! She was pretty much the reason that I even got interested of the series in the first place. Hell, we were even kinda born around the same year. And I just now sort of realized (Not to a T.) that my personality kinda comes from her. Because, when I was little, I used to look up to her and wanted to be just like her.
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I do think Amy Rose needs a bit more added to her, but her bold and energetic personality a major thing about her so why did they take that away. That should still be a major part of her character even if she's not chasing Sonic anymore. I actually prefer the "Obsessive, Creepy stalker, weirdo, crazy, obnoxious" Amy over "Sappy Rose."
*Slams table* THANK YOU!!! I thought I had been alone in thinking this the entire time, and I'm glad to see I'm not :'D
But yeah, Amy has to be one of the most misunderstood characters in this franchise, if not THE most misunderstood. Almost everywhere I go, I see and hear people call 2000's Amy a "creepy stalker" or say her personality is just "loves Sonic", and praise the hell out of Sonic Boom, IDW, and Frontiers for having her be "mature" and giving her "more personality". But Amy always had a personality outside of crushing on Sonic... She was an incredibly energetic goofball of a girl who was super open about her emotions, with "love" being her most expressed cause, you know, she's in love with a boy who's the title character of this franchise. Amy was quick to anger and could be too focused on Sonic, sure, but Amy was more often than not full of joy and had an innate desire to help and protect others; be they a Flicky that bumped into her, a robot of Eggman's that freed her and then was almost about to be destroyed by Sonic, or a rabbit and a big cat whose friends were missing (whom Amy would become BFFs with).
I guess I could agree that Sonic X, Battle, and other material at the time made Amy a tad too fixated on Sonic. But honestly, Amy's bigger problem in the 2000's was that she was written quite often as a temperamental brat who would attack anyone for any slight annoyance. *THAT* needed to be toned down. The open crush on Sonic, though? Amy's boundless excitement, emotion, and silliness? Those did NOT need to be toned down. But Lost World and Boom did exactly that, turning Amy from an emotional genki girl with an open crush to a "kind and mature girl who keeps her crush on a boy a secret" ('secret crush' in itself being one of the most overused and annoying tropes ever). And somehow this is regarded as a GOOD thing, the point in which Amy became likeable and a well-rounded character, even though that's a clear case of regression/character neutering. Amy didn't become *more* of a character, she became *less* of a character! But who cares, at least she's not obsessing over Sonic now >_> Yeah, "hooray" to that: the character whose core trait since inception is loving another character, no longer loves that character. Such an improvement /s
I've been seeing IDW and Frontiers being praised for getting Amy truly "back on the right track", but I honestly fail to see that. IDW pretty much had Amy be possessed by Sally Acorn for the first 30 issues, as "tired" as that is to say. And while Amy's being written more like how she was in the 2000's, her overall character is still very subdued in IDW. Especially since IDW introduced its own original character, Tangle the Lemur, who is an excitable goofball who is super expressive with her emotions :\ And Frontiers... You really took the words out of my mouth. Amy couldn't be more contrary to her own character in that game, being so quiet and melancholy. Amy wants to show her love to the world, but once again doesn't express any love to the boy she has a massive crush on. And *that* seemingly contributed to Amy's 'Fast Friends profile' wherein it's made explicit "Amy's no longer chasing after Sonic"... FUCK. THAT. The only material that has *actually* done Amy correctly in the past TEN YEARS was 'The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog'. That was the Amy I fell in love with, and what Amy should be again.
Beautifully said
The best words I've seen in this comment section. You pretty much highlight everything that is wrong with Amy now how braindead how she was apparently "fixed" now.
I think its important to have her be a hot head whilst still being caring and nurturing.
Me personally I just want the hot headed moments to be a little few and far between. If she was constantly pulling out her hammer like she was back in X it makes me wonder why anyone would hang out with her.
The focus I think should be on the caring side and then have a short but memorable bit where she loses her temper and shows that even the nicest people have their limits and that you should never underestimate her.
(Kinda like what I did in my fan series where shes mostly heartfelt and compassionate but then theres that little moment where she goes 🤬😡 🔨 mode)
I feel the same, sonamy forever ❤
He's sonally
He’s ships both
@@RealgiselleReally? All I see from him is mostly Sonally?
We're kinda in that spot in the franchise where we don't know anything of what's to come up next. We just got done with this horrible meta era and we are left in the dark. Characters are changing and lore is swaying in the direction we are either going to and not going to like. Amy is just part of that change. I see debates whether she should go back and stay in this current version of the character. Personally I prefer Amy as she was in Sonic X but, I am also not too upset about the change or bothered. I see her as Amy, if that makes sense. Amy is Amy and she can be goofy and straight forward as the story sees fit. I see Frontiers story as the characters going back to center. There reestablishing themselves within the franchise and growing. So, we're just starting this rebirth kinda era so, I'm waiting and seeing what comes up in the future.
I wonder what there gonna do her character in the future she seems to still have crush on sonic.
Amy Is My All Time Favourite Character + Lisa Ortiz Is Her Best Voice Actor Of All Time.
The way I see it about Amy is that she is just being a typical girl who has a crush on a particular person like Sonic for instants. And plus in Sonic CD, Sonic was the one who saved her life from the hands of Metal Sonic when Sonic and Amy first met, so of course Amy is going to like him. I also like how you point out "If Amy isn't allow to be as loud and crazy as she use to be, what separates from any other female character." that was a good point you made by the way ^^.
I feel like part of why Amy became a strong independent woman was partially because she started to integrate Sally Acorn into her. It’s like how Bumblebee integrated Hot Rod’s traits in the Modern Transformers Content, she has the looks of Amy Rose, but she has the mind of Sally Acorn.
I wasn’t into the crazy obsessive fangirl trope (That’s why I hate Tootie from Fairly OddParents), but I see Amy changing her personality to fit with the times made sense. Granted, that doesn’t necessarily mean I prefer the change, but it made sense at the time.
Honestly, I feel like if we had a Amy Rose who retained all her personalities (Like having the quirky personality from the Dreamcast/Pre-Boom Days, mixed with her Post-Boom/Current Era personality), we could get the best Amy that pleases both fans. But I’m an amateur, not an optimist.
In a way I get what you mean about her and funny you say that Amy was your introduction to Sonic because when I was younger I knew about Sonic but never was to crazy for the series if it wasn't for me looking up Amy Rose content back then when I was in middle school that made me fall for the character and the Sonic series more itself thanks to her.
No matter what Amy will still be in my number one
Imma say my piece. Amy back in the day for me was irritating, but the good kind of irritation for a cartoon character. I liked Amy, and even if I was kinda just wanting her to leave our blue boy alone, I also really wanted to see them together, almost just because of how much she wanted to. New Amy is... certainly different. It's an evolution that I'm completely fine with but also fine if old Amy comes back. The thing that sets her apart besides her bubbly and unsubtle nature is her compassion. Someone mentioned it already, but Imma list a few off the top of my head anyway: Gamma, Shadow, Silver, etc. The thing about new Amy is that she still has the compassion, she's just a lot more subtle. Which I can see being a problem for people. On the other hand (at least in the comics) Sonic and Amy have legitimate chemistry now which I kind of like. And she even slips back into the whole "fangirl funk" for a minute before remembering why she was there and how Sonic operates, as well as just straight up saying the whole "I love you" phrase. These characters have known each other for a while now, I kinda think this moment was Amy remembering that kind of thing makes Sonic uncomfortable. That's kind of why he ran off from her in the first place. She was constantly trying to go on dates, get a kiss, etc etc, and it was so much intensity that Sonic just couldn't be around her comfortably which is understandable and also IMPRESSIVE. Like THE Sonic, Fastest Thing Alive, who's destroyed giant killer robots,can't handle how intense you are. That's crazy dude. But yeah. I think her mellowness is valid, but your arguments aren't invalid. I don't think they're going to do a super serious Frontiers-y game again, at least for a while, wo seeing how they handle Amy is going to be interesting.
Holy shit this comment is loooooong. Do not read this if you value your time
Well she’s kinda just well…it’s complicated. I actually do like her writing in frontiers and it kinda gets to other people. Think about it. Sonic doesn’t wanna help the kocos but after Amy convinces him he continues to do it and even encourages others to do the same
You must realize Amy is the Minnie Mouse to sonic so it’s not surprising they would have similar personalities.
The devs are the definition of not wanting to play with a double edged sword. Amy can either be the loudest character or the quietest. Nobody knows what incarceration you get.
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There are games where they did exaggerate Amy's crush (I'm looking at you Sonic Free Riders and Battle), however while Amy did have moments where she flirted with Sonic, clearly in important or serious moments, she helps others, she even didn't mind Elise kissing Sonic when he was dead in Sonic 2006. However I don't understand why this constant insistence on making the characters mature too much, I mean, Sonic isn't the most mature character, and yet people are fine with him, or Knuckles too. That would be fine if Sonic was a self-conclusive series, I mean a series that has an ending, but it's not. Years will go by and there will still be new games, new comics, new series or who knows another movie. The point is that Sonic is a franchise that is constantly renewed, it is not a series that has a beginning, a denouement and an end. It's like Mickey Mouse, a character that has been around for many years, but the character has changed almost nothing, he's still the same.
@@antrox2346 well. If you want to develop sonic and Amy, you want do this. Amy’s character before frontiers describes someone who can get into a conversation with anyone. With the direction there taking, sonic is becoming more of the more mature characters
I’m not saying Amy needs to be loud as well. BUT if they write her like they do in IDW it would be more balanced.
This is just a Hayden Christensen scenario. At first, he was hated, and then after they let him cook, he became like Peter Cullen. No one could think of someone else as that character. So we just got to let Amy cook
I don’t know if i will get hate on my opinion but I don’t like the idea of amy going super (in canon way) not because she is a female hedgehogs, because she is equal to sonic. Amy will never be sonic in strengths or speed but that okay. It goes against her character arc in SA1. I don’t like modern amy and i agree all your point in this video. People said she have a character development but where… where is it? Sonic forces didn’t help amy as character at all. I miss old amy but I’m still look forward what she becomes in future even though I’m scared of sega what will do to amy.
Yeah, I always liked Amy being the most normal of the group. She just lives in Station Square doing her own thing. It makes her all the more admirable when she puts herself in dangerous situations since she's probably putting the most at risk.
amy likes fortune cards
Bring back the goofy. There's always time for serious stuff, but you gotta make time for the goofy
I think Frontiers just didn't get a lot of time for devs to make "action" scenes for tails, knuckles & amy. Then they played harder into the "dialogue in digital form" format.
When they mainly express themselves through dialogues, Ian's forced to write them a lot more introspectively (he got parachuted in halfway to, I guess, "save" the story with what animations they can cook up)
I do like the final product that is Frontiers, seeing an introspection-focused story from the cast once in 20 years or so is def better than shallow writing. I doubt they will repeat the mistake of underbudgeting the animations for sonic games moving forward. Fingers crossed.
I do miss it. She's still my favorite female character thought Top 3 or 5 Sonic characters period
I'll start this off by saying that I love Amy more than anything. I even like to say that she got into a battle with my depression, and she won. Ever since I jumped into the sonic franchise toward the beginning of the summer, I have always felt attached to Amy. At first, I was in some sort of mental denial to her being my favorite character, but even now she has never stopped growing on me. On a further point, you made a lot of fantastic points in this video, and they sort of cored a hole in my soul. I'll admit her old character wasn't perfect, but it at least felt like Amy. And although I'd disagree with saying that the other three characters in Frontiers (Tails, Knuckles and Sonic, for clarification) took a big step in the right direction for development, I feel like Amy took a step back. Sure, she finally stopped chasing Sonic around, but at the cost of everything that makes me love her to begin with. However, I will say she was written decently in Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog, so it isn't too late, but I hope Sega brings Amy back, because you said it yourself - Amy is now a shell of her former self.
As some have already pointed out in various other comments, there is a nice balance that needs to be struck with Amy - Give her the eagerness, kindness, and will to help that she had in the adventure games, unleashed, and even 06. They can keep their maturity and still give back the Amy we know and love.
TL;DR: Bring Amy back.
I think Frontiers had absolutely another tone. But IDW and The Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog did Amy still nice character. She's not chasing him anymore and she had something but Sonic in her mind. I think it's pretty nice.
I just don't get what was ever wrong with Amy running after Sonic to catch him on his adventures. It was cute and even admirable and daring. It also informed her persistence in the stories of the games and her presence in the world and narrative. Now she just kinda feels like the obligatory girl of the group Sonic knows by comparison.
@@ChaddyFantomeExactly. Also, if you look deeper into this aspect, you'll realise that whenever Amy is chasing Sonic, she's essentially giving him more of the thing he loves to do the most. Running.
@BJSolar02 Yes! You totally get it!
I think you write Amy perfectly. I just thought of the idea, of Sega, letting the fans write the characters for one game, to see how it works. I mean all of Sonic Mania is fanmade, so why not this. But then I realised, that if we were allowed to affect the characthers to that extent, I think the ships would start being included in that "Everything is canon" tweet
I think not, we let the fans mess with the franchise enough.
4:34 I think if you want a proper explanation as to why they mature it's probably because you see that exponential maturation with Amy in sonic IDW and I guess Ian Flynn automatically didn't try to bridge the gap between the sudden change in her character compared to the previous games. I think this was needed honestly just because as you said, A LOT of people hated Amy and you didn't really understand why 2:34 because you liked how expressive she was, and I do not understand the hate either because she was a kid anyways. As Amy aged, nothing changed for her admiration for sonic in the IDW comics btw, she still likes flirting with him here and there and he doesn't know how to respond to it, but that's the thing she learnt the importance of boundaries too and she needs her own independence so the incels can stop whining about her about being "obsessive" when the MF WAS just a KID back then 💀 Anyways, I personally like this newer version of Amy because YES she is still expressive but she also grew out of chasing sonic, bc why tf are u going to constantly chase someone who is almost always busy with constant problems. I wouldn't take Frontiers too seriously because every quality you said was missing was still in the IDW comics.
The only problem as to why this makes Amy seem weaker as a character is because the spotlight is always revolving around sonic in IDW, and when we already don't see much of Amy it makes us think they erased a part of what makes her character great because of this change.
Finally someone says it! Agreed with everything you said in this video.
Having watched the video, I agree with some points (Amy being misunderstood and misinterpreted as a stalker has been a loong running joke over the years) but I disagree with the IDW and Frontiers interpretations having read and seen both respectively.
Amy is still herself, with her care and compassion for others, especially living creatures, Amy's personality and characterization in the Final Horizon update, is most evident of her past traits, which is definitely something I loved seeing.
I definitely understand where you're coming from, with how Amy was more open about her crush on Sonic and her bubbly expressiveness and tone in the past, it never bothered me either, I always found funny and kind of endearing, but I understand fans from the same era, did not lol.
I think ( and I'm just saying this as a whole,) we kinda overanalyze or prioritize sometimes, a character's trait)s and when it's simmered down some, we instantly feel like something is missing or gone forever, Sonic in the early 2000s is a good example, Unleashed, Secret Rings and Black Knight were peak personality, because Sonic knew when to be funny and serious.
The meta era was definitely a bad characterization era, everyone felt replace with terrible personalities and flanderization.
The way Sonic is in Frontiers, I felt unleashed energy, I felt black knight energy, it wasn't about maturity, I genuinely felt like Sonic was back, *my* Sonic was back.
I know when comes down to a fan base, the different generations of fans( both old and new) are always going to have their own personal view, their own personal take on the franchise/series, as the years go by, everyone has a unique expression of why they love a character.
I know everyone in the fan base is really split down the middle, regarding Frontiers writing and characterization,(heck , even idw) but imo, the characters are themselves and better, yes, the tone is different from past games, but it did not suck the life out of them for me personally.
I like how everyone is, in that game, but I also understand not every fan will be in agreement with me lol.
Respectfully, agree to disagree, but I understand where you're coming from. 👌🏾
As one fan said 2 years ago, "who and what Sonic is, varies from fan to fan".
And the same can be said for his friends too.
I enjoyed the video, I would like to see more like this, reminds me of PJ and his takes.
FINALLY!! SOMEONE GETS IT!!! 💪What I'm trying to say.
I love Amy. I just wish Sega put more balance on her like the other females like Blaze and so on.
And that's the problem, because when you balance everything, there isn't some trait of Amy that makes her stand out from the other characters, just to please those who misunderstood Amy.
that was a pretty good video good sir, while I enjoy frontiers aswell Amy's Character Definetly standed out in a bad way compared to how knuckles and Tails was
Amy will always be the Pinkie Pie of the Sonic universe to me
"Everyone wanted her fixed so badly, that she never seemed to had been appreciated in the first place" said by Pixelrush probably. Honestly, you could say the same about many things. But really amazing video, i feel like this sentence really describes it best.
Amy's our goddess!
*goddess
The way shes written trraditionally reminds me a lot of Snorkmaiden in the moomins.
I feel like a lot of people got into the sonic franchise through tv shows, for me it was sonic boom.
Honestly the number one thing I’ve thought about when it came to specifically Amy and tails, they’re both just developing in a circle all the way back to adventure and people don’t see it
Amy didnt act this way though in SA1. Yeah she is doing things Amy would do, but she isn't acting like herself so it comes off wrong.
Both Sonic and Shadow are aloof cool dudes with tude that save the day, but thay doesn't make them 100% the same person.
I likr the plot ideas for Amy in Frontiers, but it comes off hollow since Amy doesn't feel or act like herself. Amy is just depressed l, reseved and for a lack of a better term way too"rational and level headed" for the kind of character she is, who normally is more of a tendy, spunky genki girl with a good heart who carpe diem
You got into amy rose from sonic x season 4 ep 69? I got into her when I played sonic hero's
I have been thinking all of this for a while, but never could work it out clearly. You hit every nail on the head! Like Amy did with goofy
A lot of people say Amy Rose is a better character and role model for little girls when she's not chasing Sonic, but I have to disagree. Since I was one of those little girls who grew up with Sonic, and her trait of her persuit of her unrequited love for Sonic never rubbed me the wrong way. I find it enduring and cute whenever she's in one of her tactics to win his heart, and proves to me that she's one determined and goal oriented mother fucker(which are not bad traits). In fact, it even amplified more when I discovered that Sonic does feel the same way, but doesn't want to admit it, and yet bleeds it out through his actions. I do hope if they decided to add Amy in Sonic Movie 3, they keep this will they/won't they dynamic, cause her being considerate of others, saving the world, and turning people into new leaves is just only half of her character.
The only thing is not making her crush into a cruel joke and turning her character into a circus monkey for laughs like it was in 2000's. I mean would you be happy if Amy was a gag character who falls into mud or always left alone the whole movie? A little bit of awkwardness in the beginning and her becoming friends with Sonic and the rest throughout the movie is perfect way to introduce the character and not drag outdated Japanese perspective on the girl archetype and boy/girl relationship
@@ashesGeek No one who liked Amy during the 2000s would ever want her to be back at being a butt monkey who's goals are worthless, in fact, her impossible goals were part of her charm, she never let anything drag her down and that's part of why Amy fans liked her. The current direction feels like Amy just gave up and are trying to subvert the dynamic by making Sonic chase HER (which is counterintuitive as to why she was created).
@@dragondelsur5156 I think it would've been interesting if Sonic decided to try settle down with Amy, but she would always back away saying she has much to do instead. The thing we need is Sonic and Amy just spending time together having fun and feeling comfortable like they had Amy's birthday party in Murder of Sonic or how casually Sonic and Amy talked in Frontiers
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Cosmo sighted.
There definitely needs to be a balance between Amy's love for Sonic and Her Independence from him. (I say the Sonic Boom Cartoon was the perfect balance. Mainly Independence with a tiny bit of infatuation for Sonic)
I'm not a fan of how boom Amy was written as the level headed, no fun allowed rational one of the group and straight up treated her love of Sonic as this big secret she was embarrassed about. That's like..the opposite of Amy in every way.
Nah, Boom is not the best example. Amy Boom is boring and most only like her because she's not energetic and bubbly like the original Amy. She's just the girl with no definite action personality, not to mention those feminist airs she had.
You mean the same Amy who has a lifesize Sonic doll and is worthless without the hammer? That Amy?
@dragondelsur5156 honestly, I didn't recall that.
It's so sad because I'm An Amy fan to I agree
Hello can you make a series about Sonic and his Friends turning into a Were Animals please and thanks and Happy Halloween 🎃
It sucks cause her more favorable character traits back in the day were used as a weapon against her, metaphorically speaking in the early days. Now people at least tolerate her but she not as bubbly as she once was i feel like all the people that say they hate her are people outside the community that don't even care about these characters also shes was just 8-12 when she met Sonic so that overbearing personality makes since i can see anyone that be being like that also hating and calling someone a stalker thats just a literal child is crazy to me
You’re not wrong, but i think it’s just that the tone of Frontiers make assumptions that she’s gone.
But she’s not. Watch the IDW Comics, TMOSTH, the Sonic Channel stories qnd Prime (even though we’re seen so little of her original counterpart but it still can see her traits in the other counterparts).
I personally think that, even if Amy may not chasing Sonic, she might still be the old self in the next mainline sonic game.
Also, i liked the tarot cards, even if in Frontiers hee moveset relies too much on them.
Nah even in things like IDW she's too subdued.
@@PixelrushTheFunnyPixelMan for me not in the latest issues, like 63 when she goes to Angel Island with Knuckles or the classic series with her 30th anniversary special.
If you mean the first sagas of the IDW comics, Metal Overlord and Virus, you’re not wrong, even though the tone and everything else wasn’t really ‘colorful’
I think that's what's so frustrating about her. I can SEE traces of her in there, she's just not allowed to fully be herself.@@Andre95mYTA
Man over here speaking the truth.
1:36 Please don't say God LIKE cussing or is meanless, and in a devaluing way.
He just literally explained why Amy is one of my favorite characters.