USA-South Africa relations under strain amid rising tensions
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- As diplomatic tensions grow between the United States and South Africa, #Newzroom405’s Washington correspondent, Simon Marks, highlights the misinformation and misunderstandings shaping the strained relationship.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.
ANC rubs shoulders with Iran ,China, Russia and represents Hamas in court.What do you expect is going to happen...
I saw this coming,
If you build shacks on somebody elses land and they cannot remove them and government do nothing about it, then your land is taken. You can do nothing with your land occupied by hundreds of squatters.
Let's see if China and Iran will offer financial aid to South Africa.
What about akkerland,there is land taken,public just don't know about it
SABC just did a story less than 48 hours ago about land being stolen and illegal sold by the Majority population and absolutely nothing was being done about it. Trump is not lying. They even said that the reason why they took the land was because of the land act.
Amazing the racist remarks from black people in the comments.
The looters should return the loot to African owners
Maybe for the first after they have been provoked. Otherwise you will never hear Blacks making wild statements about whites
Shut up and go to your new home in usa.
Dont worry about the racist comments give it 10 more years and you will see as soon as hunger sets in all racist thoughts disappear 😂 Zimbabwe went down the same road and 20 years later they were begging the white farmers to come back and 3 months ago they made the first payment to farmers 100 million they still have to pay another 3.3 billion 😂 its a process they brains either connected to theyre stomaghs or theyre asses 😂
If you were fair what would have you done? You done
White South Africans would have supported the current government fully if they transformed South Africa into a prosperous nation!
Can't do what you're not equipped to do.
The Truly Sad fact is That SA could have a 5 -10 percent unemployment rate if they were smart enough to let the people who actually build first world countries run the government.
"Transformation" to the ANC is turning white into black. Nothing else matters to them.
@danielrevelation184 go and live in those first countries......we will run this country our way.....white settlers if they are not happy they must leave.
Apparently racism and discrimination is fine, as long as it does not affect black South Africans!
Stop blaming Elon Musk! Stop talking about Land Expropriation and start talking about all the racist acts in South Africa.
BEE is going nowhere, if that's what you are referring to, let the US bring the storm, we are resilient people
@@abeltakalani8957😢 So many ret@rds
@@abeltakalani8957And who told you so.I hope you like to eat soil,because that is what you going to do when the farmers move,and you want the land.
@@abeltakalani8957 yes bee will stay because your lazy to work and like handouts. Give half your business to a incompetent person just because of his/her skin colour. That is racism. You are hypocritical.
Take it or Go
140 Race based laws in South Africa .
multiple centuries of racism in south Africa
Which one of those laws are oppressing the minority? Or u just on the bandwagon?
@@WorkingPrincipleZyes, local tribes have been fighting for many years. But that is history, what about the future...?
@@kGs62 do you really think black people deserve 50% of a business that a white person build. If so, why?
All those laws and yet the majority of the population are still living in poverty. Less socialist corruption and more common sense.
There's no misunderstanding Simon. What the US government is doing against South Africa has nothing to do with the expropriation law. It has a lot to do with South Africa's foreign policy, its stance in the Middle East, the ICJ case, Taiwan, Starlink and more. This is unfortunate but not unexpected.
We white Afrikaans South Africans want to come please Mr President Trump HELP US
Please Go to the American embassy and inquire about becoming an American citizen. America is especially looking for young WW.
South African guy here, lol at Monique
@@danielrevelation184 monique wants to stay with the Amish
I agree with you Monique.
Niemand stop julle nie😂😂😂
The DA etc... Can try to "explain" all they like.. They let their people down. Are they being bribed by THE ANC for a new SUV. . You disappointed us AND YOU are disgusting.
Agreed, the DA will lose all the ground they gained.
Malema is a no-brainer with a big mouth.
😊
President Trump you so right I got so much respect for you thank you that you stand up for our Afrikaners from South Africa
Stand for what.Go to US and collect food stamps to survive why you to stay where you life is be threatened
😂😂😂then go😂😂niks keer julle nie😂😂😂
There is NO MISUNDERSTANDING. ANC has plans to take our hard earned property
Hard earned property?
..... And everything else
The plan will be implemented soon, stolen land will return to it's rightful owners
😂😂😂ANC is no longer in power😂 GNU is in power😂😂😂
@@MthunziZweniYes I worked and payed my property for30 years.
Please Trump and Elon HELP!!!!
Did you not hear Pres. Trump, he is offering you a place on his table. I would take his offer if I were you. He said land for your families, work in the farms..etc
@@luckym5198
Oh ive lived there from 2000 to 2008 I might just take the offer see ya please start planting some millies there in the location where you live otherwise you will have to swap places with the Zimbabweans that had to move here ilegaly just so they could eat 😂😂😂
What about your racist new president!
😂😂😂😂 help you with WHAT 😂😂😂go over😂😂he's waiting if u can prove ur farm was taken illegally 😂😂
Trump did not flinch once to back stab his loyal allies who stood by the usa. Get real
You are miss informed!!!
Afriforum does not represent ordinary Afrikaners!
The joke is that Solidarity brags about their contacts in the US Congress and Republican Party. They say that they have regular meetings with the Heritage Foundation, a Republican think tank. They even asked them for help. Now they say they don't agree with Trump's help. Very strange.
Thank you Elon Musk from South Africa
Check the Race base laws😢please 😢
Why not just leave this nonsense?
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 it's time the West withdraws all industry from the racist blacks and hateful muslims in SA. close Ford, GM, Mercedes Benz, BMW, VW and all other industries. you can plant peanuts if you like.
first check the effects of multiple centuries of racism then I will check the acts, first come first serve
@@WorkingPrincipleZmultiple centuries ago you killed each other and sold you people to Arab slave owners! Stop blaming everyone for your own failings!
@@WorkingPrincipleZso what are the effects
Farmers are being murdered on their farms, what does that tell you
That there's a lot of crime in the country?
Black people are being fed to the pigs in South Africa what does that tell , and please stop this thing of saying you are white , say pink farmers then you will understand what you are saying before writing stupidity PINK
So is farm workers, guess you didn’t know that… crime is everywhere even black farmers get killed. It’s just crime.
The same farmers killed our mothers and fathers, and they are still killing them and feeding them to pigs. You guys just love being victims, own up to your mistakes and all this drama will be over.
Why are you still here?
It is easy to sit on the side-line and to “think” what is happening. Check Zimbabwe!!!
learn to share with those who has nothing equally instead of waiting for them to beg
It is not a misunderstanding; Trump is 100% correct, and it can be proven the "under the table" way it was done before. Afriforum's focus is on unconstitutional laws, not on the grounds of supporting the people in person who are suffering criminal neglect when failing to keep the law that causes people to lose their property in this anarchy.
I don't understand how America is going to do anything to South Africa South Africa kicked out all of the American and France ambassadors and burned in military base to the ground they kicked out the United States military as well do not want to have anything to do with them ever again in life
So there you go @laliedutoit, Pres. Trump is offering help in the form of land to the Afrikaner community, it's a win win, congratulations
@@terriedill9856trump kicked out black refugees and is now inviting white refugees from SA. He clearly sees the difference. He Will also see the difference between white and black Americans. Cant believe That black people voted for this Guy. In a few years your next …
when are you living,good riddance as Trump have granted you refugee status ad how we wish you could live tomorrow.
@@harwardmbonxa-x5i You go. Zimbabwe is your Country.
USA BE PROUD OF YOUR PRESIDENT TRUMP 👏 🙌 🎉🎉🎉
Even the citizens of usa is rioting in the streets against president elon😂😂😂
Awesome the world must recognize SA for what it is cesspool of crime and corruption 😢😢😢😢there was once a beautiful SA gone forever never to return just like Zimbabwe 😢😢😢😢😢😢
At least you have a chance to go to US as a refuge
@@zandilemotsie3663and you got a chance to return to Zim 😂😅
😂 😂 😂When Trump's term ends they will revoke your refugee status and deport your arses
@@zandilemotsie3663 and yet you keep driving Africa in to the ground by election thieves and liers.Sometimes you get what you vote for.S Africa, murder capitol of the world, YOU SHOULD BE PROUD!
Well maybe we don't have a problem on being like Zim. You keep on mentioning Zim to threaten us as if we care. Real wealth comes from the land, nothing else. We're ready to hit rock bottom, for as long as we have our land back.
Watch Ramaphosa ask US embassy to close......mark my words
Why are the goverment not asking for money from brics . Hamas or Quatar.
Cz brick is shit that you choose
We need the first world to run the economics of this country,to combat corruption
Do you call what Musk and Trump currently doing currently in America first world governance?
Land has already been taken again just in the past few days
where is it
South Africa is in trouble 😢i feel sorry for our kids...thanks selfish anc...whatever the anc touches turns into shit😢
Run to America
No not yet I wanna see ramaposa fall too his knees and repent 😊
Who is our? South Africa must decouple from the USA. I want to have nothing with those bullies and warmongers from the USA.
The act of land expropriation is practiced by a lot of countries which were colonised. Uneducated people or people who do not believe in equality like afriforum are the ones destroying South African.
Black people as we speak in South Africa are suffering except ANC leaders who are extremely corrupt, and the Mandela family who is living lovish lives, black people as we speak will pay the heavy price, thieves from the ANC will loss nothing, well done to China they are going to exploit us again
Why does the interviewer assume it’s only Afriforum members that would take up refugee status in America? Plenty white informal settlements especially around Pretoria filled with homeless destitute whites and specifically white Afrikaaners. I’m sure those people would grab an opportunity like this with both hands. I would if I was them. It’s the same old black fallacy where they believe somehow every white in SA is wealthy. No some are in quite bad circumstances and would love to have a better life elsewhere. Obviously the ones with money to protect themselves from the problems in the country will happily stick around. It’s that simple
Please motivate them to leave this useless country and go greener pastures 😅
How many blacks and Colouds living in shacks, everyone is affected. It's just that you guys are not used to it.
Black and Colourd people have been struggling for a long period of time. everyone is not safe due to high rate of crime but that does not mean we must blackmail one another.
Crime has forced may farmers of their land.
It’s just crime and it affects everyone.
What land?
Afriforum needs to stop speaking for me...
Afriforum can stay and switch off the lights...oh the lights are already off...
lol that's a good one. you are funny for a radical right winger
@@WorkingPrincipleZ Afriforum is left wing.
ANC I REBUKE YOU IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME! I BREAK THE SHACKLES PLACED ON US BY THIS RACIST BLACK ELITE GOVERNMENT! I SUMMONS YOU TO A LIFETIME OF REGRET AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR SINS! AND YES PEOPLE, LAND IS BEING TAKEN. IF NOT AT A HIGH RATE RIGHT NOW, CERTAINLY IN FUTURE!😢😢😢😢
Back to sender 😅
Shame, it sounds powerful, but rather if you can adress the principalities and the Deaf and Dumb Spirit or the Antichrist Dpirit or which Spirit you want to rebuke or get a deliverance from??
Antichrist Spirit
I rebuke the racist spirit of Rhodes and van Rebeck in you
The usa citizens feels even worst than you because of Trump taking they aid and jobs away.
Oh and how the wheels turn. 😅 you reap what you sow🎉 And it only started
History is going to repeat himself Zimbabwe
Stop being coward
@@kingkwazi7918 do you like food?
It's interesting that people think the world hasn't changed since then. America is our second biggest trading partner and is no longer the only super power (China Russia India and I ran). Europe's economy has collapsed and there's some internal squabbles within the EU and the world now has BRICS. SA is not as powerless as you think which is why he didn't hit us with economic sanctions, because sanctions in today's world where countries are seeking to ditch the dollar have become a threat to the dominance of the dollar itself
South Africa needs to learn to be united, we cannot build a nation if we are not united. There won't be grabbing of land in South Africa, I think this nation has mastered how democratic nation operates and is very aware of the damage the division of people can cause in our great Nation. We should stop this thing of saying South Africa is doing terrible things against White people. Black people need White people, White need black people. We need to work together, we need to be united, we need to embrace each other, we need to be against anything that will jeopardize our unity.
Unfortunately the laws and legislation are racist against white people. How can people unite if the playing field is not equal.
There is no such thing as a South African nation. The country was a British creation, supported by Boer generals in 1910. It was a flop from Day 1.
You are 100% correct, but we lack leadership and accountability
Aah live on in your dreams!!! May be one day you will wake up! What happened in Zimbabwe?
Julius in response to musk in the letter clearly states he will continue with expropriation without compensation.
This is hilarious, I'm over here with popcorn watching the sh*tshow unfold. Black south africans you're done 🤣🤣
Tell us how Pink people 🤣
Done, how?
Since when you were worried about black South Africans
@@jumpscare1530 Yes , I agree 💯💪
It's a Shame how the bantu tribe have destroyed south Africa like many years before when they killed off the native khoi san when they colinized south Africa
I hope you are talking about the Xhoza
@@jppayle8843 oh now it's bantu who destroyed sa?Your forefathers came from Holland and things up
Hebana 😂😂
@jppayle8843 😂😂😂 NOT TRUE...the Khoisan people had no immunity to smallpox and were mostly wiped out by smallpox brought to the Cape on a Dutch ship. Google is free.
WTF you are talking about Like WTF
Blaming Afriforum again!!!
On behalf of South Africans, thank you so much for doing us a favour to be independent. We appreciate and accept the discontinuation of your lousy funding
What’s wrong with the people on this programme, YES expropriation is UNDERWAY I live in South Africa you are a spreading lies
Fact is, the intelligence community would have performed a comprehensive analysis of data!
They know this is where Zimbabwe started and it will end up in the same way!!!
Zimbabwe 2.0, there is no doubt!
You are either stupid or ignorant if you don't recognise that the act can be used to expropriate any asset at any time without compensation!
Have you even read the act?
This affects all South Africans, but especially white South Africans!!!
United States and ANC!!! Not United States and SA!!!
Exactly. South Africa is a beautiful country. The ANC is an evil parasitic organization.
Zimbabwe stoppped respecting private property rights look what happened. South African corrupt government just changed the law to make it legal to steal private property 😳😳😳😳why don’t you have a problem with that?????
Next the anc top brass is going to be sanctioned😅
Yeah, I wonder how many of them have kids studying and staying in the USA who will have to come back 😂
@@ShawnRademeyernow that is a good idea.
This is very important.
imagine where a thief claims yo property because he has a bigger thief backing him.
FOOLS and playing victims
Did you read about the most recent land invasions??
Nope, where was this?
@@jumpscare1530just outside Seshego.
STOP saying South Africa !
Say ANC is...
Don't know why it's so hard for journalists to understand what is happening. The Zimbabwean government didn't seize farmland; it just stood by as people occupied it and did nothing about it. The same is happening here; it was in the news that people are occupying private property while citing to journalists that the president passed a law allowing them to do so and the government isn't doing anything about it. It seems like the majority of journalists are either blinded by ideology or brown envelopes. Take your pick.
Return the land your steal full stop will talk later
Is any figure in authority doing something about the landgrabs presently happening in Seshego Polokwane? Landgrabs motivated by the signing of the act.
Give a capitalist a pile of bricks, and he will build you a city. Give a socialist a city, and he will give you a pile of bricks.
I can't get a job because of the anc
Go to Us has the offer
@@tatendawilson3057 RACIST ON STEROIDS
Soon they will face the same problem from the EU they can eat all the land 😂😂😂
RIP ANC
Legacy media at its worst
I am originally from the South Kivu region of eastern Congo and belong to the Shi tribe. As a victim of war, I am now a refugee living in the United States. While I respect my sister Adele's right to express her opinion in response to General Kayumba’s interview, I disagree with her perspective on the tribal issues faced by the Congolese government.
Congo is home to over 400 tribes, with the Banyamulenge being one of the largest. All tribes, without exception, have experienced discrimination from other tribes at some point. However, this does not justify any tribe taking up arms against another. I was born in 1975 and went to school with members of the Banyamulenge community, with whom I have friendships. In my experience, there has never been a genocide against the Banyamulenge.
I believe Adele's statements indirectly support Paul Kagame, who is committing genocide in Congo. While she is right on many points, she is misleading the public regarding the war issues in the DRC. I would welcome the opportunity to be interviewed on these issues.
Why is BRICS quiet they said they would help the ANC mos .Why cry about aid get aid from BRICS 🤣🤣🤣
Bricks to help what? There is nothing to help here
BRICS doesn't do a whole lot of talking, they act.
Brics don't do hand outs,you actually have to work for your money with brics.
@elvismahlabane2821 literally nothing left
We have minerals we have land , why do you want to be reliant to aid?
Yes sanction Malema
Trump us ACTUALLY correct
❤Trump
When are you leaving? Please leave as soon as you can.All your unreasonable and racist friends,go.Please
He who feeds you controls you. Either you obey or face the consequences
why do blacks sell there land ? they took it back once already in the late 90s,THIS IS THEFT AND MURDER BY THE GOVERNMENT!
South African will suffer because a lot of countries in the world want to have America in there side including china ❤
Which countries needs America, China is busy replay US if you didn't know.
BRICS is giving US sleepless nights because it's gross daily.
I really think you've been sleeping the last couple years you better do a little bit more research on what you just said because none of that is true look at the news this morning China just turned on all of the offers that the United States had to offer them and decided to partner with Africa
They just want to cover up it makes me fed up. Mr Trump is not misinformed he is not a fool and understands what is going on in South Africa.🙄😔🤨
afri speak for them self. we are #Trumpsos
After 2000, many race laws
Elon Musk moet sommer vir Julius Malema 'n BPK gee.
Thank you TRUMP from South Africa. ❤❤❤❤
SA must decouple from the USA.
Trump has done that and the c anc er is not getting free money anymore , clever man
Anc is corrupt yes
But they never said they taking land and afrikaaners gonna be homeless
They said the land that is abandoned or not being used and truly speaking it would help I have seen a huge land unoccupied but when the people trying to stay in the land they get evicted
They also said we all have equal rights. They also said they will sort out our water problems, food problems, corruption, theft, murder, break ins, rape, HIV/Vigs, electricity problems, joblessness, homeless, sexism, racism, genocide, potholes and this list will never end with the "promises". The ANC lied to us for long enough now.
He said aloud for all to hear " kill the Boer kill the farmer"
We have not yet started taking our land back but make no mistake that is definately going to happen, we want our land.
You must buy land nothing is for free so dream on its your birth right to dream but you will not get land for mahalla the ANC just need your vote to fill the corrupt pockets take off your blinkers and smell the coffee proudly South African
And what are you going to do with the land? Eat it?
And with all that land you will sit and starve to death. Transkei is such a good example what black people do with land handed to them on a plate.
@@DonG-f3s WHICH LAND DID YOU BUY ???? OH YOU WANT IT FOR FREE , LIKE THE T SHIRT AND KENTUCKY THAT THE ANC BRIBES YOU WITH TO VOTE FOR THEM???.
This transition necessary, whatever happens happens
I love the fact that Afrikaaners have formally declared themselves foreigners in SA without us doing so. We are now allowed to say abahambe if they become troublesome.
This is good in some kind way! It's time for ANC to wake up. I don't agree with trump, though
Take the land. I am not a farmer. You must focus on BEE .
It is so disappointing seeing our fellow white south african citizens crying and feeling they are not being treated well when they are still sitting with the most and best land. Nobody in SA is fighting them and they are part of the way forward all we ask is balancing the scales after our terrible past where all non whites suffered. So why can't we make this work for all South Africans. Equality and justice?
It is not about the land, what about the policies and standing with terrorist groups. I am sick and tired of this media pushing distorted lies and not the truth
Seems to me Simon Marks is a good representative for the ANC. The spindoctoring is superb. This, however, cannot change the facts about what the evil ANC is doing.
Thank you for this informative interview! Where will it end?
Trump keep your money its yours not SA's and please take your people immediately, we're tired
Who’s his people are you ignorant ?
@ColinPhillips-s5b the people who are feeding him the lies he believes
@@ColinPhillips-s5b the Whyte Settlers you slow🤬
Thanks for showing the world that Trump is correct.
Trumpet is liar liar we don't care about what you saying.Gone are those days if lying.
Keep on dreaming... South Africa will never turn out like Zimbabwe.
Malema very arrogantly affirmed that they WILL TAKE LAND WITHOUT COMPENSATION
Farmers are not the only people being murdered.
What kind of help in south africa do they want to have apartheid again!
Afriforum must answer 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Let the farmers that have been affected come forward. How many farmers became victim to landgrabs?
The racists have been given a chance to leave ,but they dont want to leave the discrimination they face in SA
Very surprising.
Actually there’s been quite a flood of interest. Obviously wealthy whites will stick around but the poor white population will take this opportunity with both hands
you a reverse racist you need to leave first
@@Neo_Rain146well, slowly but surely then.
You speak with absolute ignorance.
Guys this is simple if you a problem a problem here in south african just go the us
Julius is more equal than white people .
Where is the VBS MONEY he took together with Shivambo through Sivambo brother ?
Go Trump
We don't care .let the US leave in peace
Being the lone stringer for the South African Bulldusting Corporation in Washington probably isn’t exactly a well-paying gig. That's why the guy is 12 years old and utterly without credibility. Oh dear😂
Yerrrrr, why does the american gov allow Musk to call Mr Malema an international criminal??💔
Because he is
He is
because he is.
yeah you are right. They did not call him enough, he is a dumb criminal.
Because he is
Good, cut off all aid, until the anc bends their knee
This is not about the land issue...I think the world has heard you BOSS..So please keep your AID we want to move on.....
Amazing 😮
Dont forget the ICJC case against Israel......
"Simon Marks" the glazing is crazy
I get refugee status. I'm going
South African politics is a joke.... What Trump is doing will go down in history. School fees are expensive... 😂
Just tell trump is okay.tell afriforum good luck to usa
you sound like a Zimbabwean you just never learn
Plz y got nice courtry so dont be like zimbabwe what happen gazza oll ather countries are watching so as sourh africa we must concern our countrry
Return the land and leave to US.