it went from maybe getting it for some of the games erlier than when they port to PC to never getting it that day. I didn;'t get it because horizon interests me little.
@@Vinman666 they haven't lost the cod revenue what are you talking about? They still earn that revenue and new games are going to be released on PS5 too, just because they are in the process of buying Activision Blizzard doesn't mean that cod will be Xbox only
It’s crazy Sony would raise the price NOW right as they’re getting ready to announce the PSVR2 and the dual sense edge which are both going to be pricey items in their own right.
PSVR will also be 500 dollars. Highly doubt they are going to let the money stand on the table when you look at the Quest 2. Yes that's stand alone. But they also practice anticompetitive practices by keeping things like RE vr exclusive it's dumb.
It really seems unnecessary to have taken this approach of "just raise the price lol". As you said, you would think that their market projections for PSVR2 and the new controller sales would help mitigate the damage. Alternatively, something like a bundle with some game becoming standard with a 40 dollar price increase would've been another lazy way to hide the cost increases. It's not like they'd even have to provide a physical copy. Just include some download code in the box for a digital edition of a game. I guess they'd rather deal with the bad PR. I wonder if part of the reason they don't care is because they have no difficulty in moving the few systems that are produced. If they don't immediately end up in the hands of an actual gamer, then a scalper will grab it anyway.
Looks like the success of the PS4 got to Sony’s head, this exact thing happened with the PS3 where the success of the PS2 give Sony an inflated ego, time will tell if history repeats itself.
SIE aka the PlayStation part of Sony isn't Japanese anymore since they moved their HQ to California. Sony Group Corporation is still based in Japan and is the main part of Sony Group. Jim Ryan needs to be fired.
Sony is Japanese they became the king of TVs again when it comes to image quality...Playstation moved ro California and is now an american subsidiary of Japanese Sony
@@shae1547 Not months. Years. He became Chief Executive Officer during the PS3 era. It's been downhill ever since. PS4 was nice but it was WAY too narrative driven. He describes playstation as a "place to tell stories" rather than just a place to play games. He single handedly narrowed the industry forcing every AAA game (by means of leading by example) to be a blockbuster rather than just be simple fun.
People need to THINK for themselves. When you make a excuse of yen to Renminbi. That is BULL if your competitor has the EXACT excuse of yen to Renminbi. And are NOT raising their price. In fact they have the exact same SUPPLY chain.
That hurts. I’m so glad I was able to grab one already. This means the digital edition is now the price the disc one was. The disc one is now double the price of a Series S and Switch. When you factor in the fact that games here are also significantly more expensive, it really cascades the price to be a playstation gamer compared to MS and Nintendo.
The Japanese value the status quo and that includes the prices of things. They are unfortunately not paid very well over there and they don't want to pay more for the things in their lives. I've heard there was huge backlash when ice cream had to have it's price increased a little bit. I'm not surprised with this reaction from Japan.
I remember reading that, due to the pandemic, a store in Japan increased prices by a very marginal cost, (I can't remember exactly, but was like 100 yen things costed 110 now) and the owner was really sorry he had to do it. Many things haven't increased in price in 20 years, even with the 2008 recession.
I miss the days of Kazuo Hirai, Satoru Iwata and Reggie Filsaime. They had personalities to them that made them likeable despite some of their shortcomings they may have had as leaders of their respective divisions, Jim Ryan on the hand seems lifeless and so out of touch with the consumer. I think Phil Spencer is the only one right now that has that same somewhat likeableness that the previous leaders had
Series X|S has done rather well for itself. Already passing the lifetime of the XBO. So MS should capitalize on that and market the shit out of it. Especially the smaller form factor of the S and make all sorts of deals for gamepass.
I think if Microsoft starts including like 3 or 6 months gamepass with a Series S purchase, it would cause sales to explode. They did a 3 month bundle with the all digital Xbox one so I don't see why they couldn't.
@@Rob-hu3yj Honestly i can already see it happening because so many japanese gamers are frustrated with PS5 price increase, even some of them already said they want to buy Xbox instead.
I think it’s a really bad move by Sony in the wake of the huge strides Microsoft is making. If it wasn’t for game pass and massive studio acquisitions I don’t think this would hurt sony too much, but there are now a number of reasons to go Xbox over ps5 this gen. With Sony not being able to get far out of the gate due to the economic climate, the stars might be aligning for Microsoft to take this generation. The business model should really be to make the money back on software. I also couldn’t agree more that Sony should have been more creative if they are adamant to make a better return on the hardware. If they chucked in 12 months of ps+ essential or a game like horizon of gt7 they could actually spin it that that they are adding value to base cost. Barmy.
Dude, don't you think Sony knows all this? Why would Jim Ryan increase the price for the PS5, knowing it would only incentivise customers to buy an Xbox? Obviously, Sony knows gamers are going to still buy the PS5. PS gamers complain about the price increase of exclusive games, and having to buy the upgrades for some of their older titles, and they still cough up the money. The PS5 is the 'designer' console like Apple, Chanel, Gucci, and all those types of brands. Sony is selling the PS5 as a privilege.
@@albertsantos47 You people still believe in PS5 Pro? Sony hasn't been able to make enough regular PS5s for past 2 years, so why would they make a Pro model?
@@kubabooba548 sony sold the ps3 as a privilege, told costumers they should work a second job to get it, look how it went for them? This will hurt sony's reputation in the long term along the controversies they have been so famous for the last 3 years
If Microsoft is smart this is when they go for the jugular and start making a big push with not just the big gaming companies but the smaller ones too in Japan.
Exactly, if Microsoft can win over those jrpg's in japan and get 1 or 2 good exclusives like sony has with spiderman and uncharted this could be the time xbox becomes bigger than sony
Sony is in the midts of its "Apple Moment" they're gonna try and spin this as the move of a luxuru brand and be unapologetic about it. They're banking of the normies seeing owning a PS5 as a status symbol.
Wow it’s so crazy to see all this unfold. What an arrogant sony we are dealing with this generation. $10 price on games increase,PS Plus membership tiers, paying to keep games off services, and now a PS5 price increase.. yeah Xbox won this generation.
I'm happy with my PS4 and Series S atm. With how Sony treated the Vita and original PSVR I've got no intention of buying more Sony tech within the next few years.
I gotta wonder what exclusive games Sony even has upcoming that appeals to the Japanese audience. All I can think of right now is FF but 16 & 7 Rebirth are far off still.
There are plenty of Japanese audience games that are usually coming only to PS/Nintendo. The thing is they are literally only for the Japanese audience. Like the JP Nintendo Directs have more games than the Western Directs.
If Sucker Punch is working on a sequel to Ghost of Tsushima that'll probably sell pretty well there whenever they're ready to unveil it. Japan eats up anything that romanticizes japanese history hence the meteoric rise of the Demon Slayer anime over there. Other than that though maybe God of War? Though apparently Kratos doesn't appeal to the Japanese as a protagonist so maybe not.
I think it’s interesting, this is the time for Microsoft to make their move. First we have the Activision/Blizzard deal, with a fairly weak response from Sony in court in Brazil. Now Sony is alienating their customers with a price hike. If Xbox locks down a big exclusive for the Japanese market, we could see that upward trend over the Xbox One continue to grow and who knows where that could lead if Sony doesn’t want their “home” turf.
I see Sony buying out a major Japanese 3rd party (Square-Enix, possibly Capcom) in a bid to "retake" Japan, assuming they try. For Sony, holding big AAA Japanese games hostage to their platform is more than enough to bring Japan into the fold. No need to release appealing, affording hardware or games of their own or anything.
Especially with the way Sony is censoring a lot of popular games in Japan if Xbox would pick up on those studios and say Hey we will be glad to bring out your games as is without the censoring.
I have been loyal and fan of sony consoles since 1. While I am turned off from ps5 with this and will skip this gen unless sony starts being reasonable again, it wont make me get Xbox even if it gets nice exclusives. Xbox S does not have a build in disc drive. That is a dealbreaker for me. So new gen ps5 with disc drive was the only one I cared about. But that has become way to expensive. So I'm noping out of this gen alltogether and will just entertain myself with my ps4 backlog. There are a lot of amazing games still to play here. If console gaming ever goes 100% digital, I'll nope out of consoles alltogether as well and make the jump to PC. The only reason I stick to consoles is because it has physical media still which I am fond off. But if it does away with that, PC it is. My point, I honestly doubt PS5 rage will influence Xbox sales a lot. I of course can be wrong, but I feel like a lot of people who wanted the PS5, especialy the disc version, wanted it for reasons that Xbox can not bridge. If anything, I think it will just result in fewer ps5 sales. If people jump ship I think it's more likely they jump to PC or Switch (if they dont have those already) or even go retro and start looking into older consoles again.
I think Sony looks at the data and realizes simply, it won't matter. Sony has done so many anti consumer moves this generation and their fans do not seem to care and will justify any move the company makes. They don't care Sony charges more for titles, they don't care that Sony won't let developers put their game up on sale when they want to discount it for consumers, they don't care Sony banned download codes in physical stores to keep an absolute monopoly on digital titles. Sony could charge players by minute like some kind of early 90s phone sex line and the fan base would thank Sony for it.
How does Sony have a monopoly on digital sales when the Eshop exist and so does steam , epic game store and xbox store etc. That does not even make sense also Nintendo 64 games 70 dollars back long ago and Sony was not even the first publisher to start charging 70 dollars. Inflation is a thing not sure you heard of it. Speaking of fans i hope you have this much energy for the fanbase that defends every single that being Nintendo fans.
@@johndoughnuts I don't think you quite understand what was said. The only way any Sony customer can purchase a digital code, to use on Sonys storeis through the Sony store. They have a monopoly on their own marketplace. Both Xbox and Nintendo do indeed have their own marketplaces, but they do not have a monopoly. You can go to a physical store and still purchase a game code through the store and directly through Xbox or Nintendo, this allows businesses to create competition and incentives like even a 10% discount to get people into a physical store, that competition and type of promotion save consumers money. Sony has gone out of their way to ban this, and now you can only ever buy from Sony on their marketplace at whatever price they would like to set....hence, a monopoly.
@@litaljohn Ah okay thank you for the extended explantation. Your initially post i was confused by how Sony simply having a digital store makes it a monopoly. I can see why that would be a problem , i still think it will get thrown out in court.
People need to THINK for themselves. When you make a excuse of yen to Renminbi. That is BULL if your competitor has the EXACT excuse of yen to Renminbi. And are NOT raising their price. In fact they have the exact same SUPPLY chain.
Sony just shot themselves in the foot. I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance. What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Playstation 5 for either SKU, nor will they purchase any of Sony's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated an entire market with this move. Sony, publicly apologize and cancel the price hike for PS5 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Microsoft has a golden opportunity in Japan now. I would flood the market with Xbox’s and increase advertising in Japan. If they had a jrpg in the works now is the time to announce it. Now is the time to announce a partnership with Kojima if there is one. Now is the time to drop some bags to secure a “Japanese style/popular” console exclusive. But end the end Sony will be fine. They have amazing 1st party and console exclusive games that people want to play.
If Microsoft really wanted to be cutthroat, they would lower the price by $50 or so and include gamepass for a few months. They'd take a bit of a loss, but would make some headway in Japan(if they can add some jrpg games into gamepass).
you do realize microsoft is already takin a loss with gamepass but they can do that because the are worth 2.2 trillion dollars. Sony only worth about 70 billion. so they can't. microsoft makes most of their money from software not from the xbox. they can literally buy sony 40 times over if they want
The article here has gotten their facts wrong. They are comparing the old price of 49980 excluding Japanese consumption tax of 10% against the new price of 60478 including the 10% tax. The price increase is 10%, not 20%.
to be honest, i got my PS5 roughly a year ago now and haven't been using it that much at all. Eldenrig was the only title for me keeping me in front of the screen for some time. Still have GT7, HFW, Kena and Tales of Arise in my Backlog, but so far none of those Games really pulled me in front of the Screen.
Great thing about game pass. You can just dip in and out with no additional cost for trying out games. Found loads of games I would not have thought of buying but have really enjoyed playing.
I’m Japanese and I think it’s good time to moving on Xbox, and not a few gamers in Japan considering about it. Xbox Game Pass is attractive to us well. Hopefully we want exclusive games made by Japanese makers. Sony, especially Jim Ryan should consider about their strategies here.
The price is going up by 10% not 20%. Gotta love gaming journalists who can't read articles. 49478 is the price for the digital edition and 60478 is the price for the disk edition, AFTER the price increase. The disk version price was 55000 before the increase. They're not increasing it from 49478 to 60478.
Graphics cards are at one of their lowest prices in years too. Bad timing for Sony. Given that Xbox and Switch aren’t raising prices and PC parts are cheap for the first time in forever Sony is having a big YTAH moment for everyone that isn’t in the cult.
@@robertlawrence9000 PS5 is still extremely hard to find in Japan, I'd rather pay 150k yen for decent PC right now, than to keep 60k yen in my bank account hoping that someday I'll be able to buy PS5.
@@robertlawrence9000 Why should that matter in any way? Switch doesn’t have the same Specs. Steam Deck doesn’t have the same specs. There have been consoles in multiple generations that didn’t sell well despite being the most powerful. A PC has many advantages over console even if it’s less powerful. Literal decades of game library, freedom to mod and do anything you want with it, a PC can be upgraded bit by bit over time, a PC isn’t software locked into an ecosystem. Of course a PC can be built to be way more powerful than a PS5 of your budget allows. But there’s 0 reason to think being more powerful than a console matters.
Also Microsoft is a Japanese company that has no touch with Japanese consumers at all then suddenly move to the United States in California back in 2015 that's why Xbox is failing in Japan loll😂
@@MightNight99 at least read the article why do you think Sony is now complete out of touch with their base, ever since they moved to California the CEO of Japan Shuhei Yushida got forced out of his position.
@@SelecaoOfMidas their base is in California and they are completely out of touch with Japanese developer's and yes they did get approval from their parent company.
I live in Montreal Quebec, Canada. Some retailers like Game Stop 🛑 are ONLY selling the PS5 Horizon bundle on a financing plan with like 15-20% default interest rate. Sure it’s affordable short term but long term you always pay 30% more in the long run. In Canada the trending triple A games are 90-93$, our tax rate is 15%. In Canada, you cannot be poor & be an up to date gamer. 540$ spent on 5 games is hella expensive.
Passing along costs to the consumer is what businesses do. Same applies to why food & gas is so expensive right now. Why game's are becoming $70 now. Makes me grateful for thing's like Game Pass. I've been able to play games I couldn't normally afford thanks to it.
Games you will never own and disappear before long. You are the perfect person for the coming future of things. Accepting your place with a whimper as long as some comfort is provided.
Correction: It’s a 10% increase not 20%. Blu-ray model in Japan was originally 49,980jpy BEFORE tax, 54,978jpy AFTER tax. So the price increase is 5,500jpy to 60,478jpy AFTER tax as the Famitsu tweet clearly says.
The last time Sony served itself a hard L, it was back when the fat PS3 and its ginormous price tag were a thing. The cell processor thing made it worse as third parties began looking elsewhere for exclusivity deals.
For many this will be the straw that breaks the camels back. In a gaming world that already embraces PC more and more and exclusives play less of a role now then ever. I think many people, myself included will sour on Sony this time, especially when neither Nintendonor MS wil raise prices. Was a Sony customer since PS1, now they completely lost me. I get my entertainment elsewhere.
who the hell can afford a pc as powerful as a series X? Jesus you guys must a have an isht load of money how about you gimme some of that cash you can afford it if you can afford a pc.
Same here. I have a PS2 and a PSP and they´ll probably be the last Sony consoles I'll ever get in my life. After the GT7 fiasco, I lost all interest for Sony, PlayStation and all of its ecosystem.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME Any 3060 will be comparable to Series X or PS5. Unlike gaming consoles PC is not a single purpose machine. A whole lot of Japanese population doesn't even own a PC and only rely on their cellphone/smartphone. For them PC is a viable investment for both gaming and general computing.
It’s odd that people keep saying they’ll default to PC because of the PS5 price hike. Gaming PCs and Laptops cost at least twice as much as a PS5. Assuming you already have a usable PC for doing other computer functions, upgrading to a gaming PC is less cost effective.
"Gaming PCs and Laptops cost at least twice as much as a PS5" Not for long. Crypto went bust, Etherium is about to move to "Proof of Stake" (no more mining new Etherium), 2023 will see the cheapest GPU market we've seen in a decade.
Another thing to point out about PS5's in Japan is now they are only availble via lottery by individual stores and Amazon Japan has the invitation system. So, it's actually not possible to walk into a store to buy a PS5 presently. I have seen the OLED Switch and Xbox Series S in stores, but not the Series X. And as I mentioned on a different video, scalpers are pretty bad here, too. Some online electronic stores have the Series S, but Series X seems to be temporarily sold out in most places. It seems like we'll just have to wait for 6 months to a year to see if these systems become more readily available. Also, the sales of games has been affected because people have such a difficult time finding these systems, so game sales are suffering to an extent as well.
In the UK you can’t buy a PS5 without HFW bundled in for £500 which has no increased to £530. I think that’s around $625 will at it’s Og price (£450) was around $530
I think Sony over estimates their exclusives. They really are not worth the upcharge. Xbox and switch offer plenty of Japanese titles and with the functionality of switch as a handheld and Xbox with xcloud, they both really have way more options at a better price.
I think you seriously underestimate PLAYSTATION as a must have console for gaming, if you’re a true gamer and don’t have a PS you’re not a true gamer. Your an xbox / Nintendo fan or a casual gamer. The price people were able to sell the PS5 for on eBay was way way higher than what they could sell an Xbox for. One would would be an Xbox series for 900 bucks it was deemed not worth it.
@@Ben.B.Benjamin Bruh. Yeah my favourite hardcore gaming experience - "cinematic story-driven third person action game with realistic graphics No. 829"
@@duhotatoday3277 Erm... You know every dev strives to make a game that could be considered a movie in its own right., right? If not why use mo-cap, if not why use established VA's? If not why use better engines for more realistic graphics? There a big difference between PS games and interactive movie games like Quantic Dreams games. Some of the best games are taken from movies and Books and some of the best games become movies or TV shows... And who's at the front doing it the best SONY / PLAYSTATION.
@@Ben.B.Benjamin "every dev strives to make a game that could be considered a movie in its own right" lmao what a baseless bs. Maybe every director strives to make a movie that could be considered a book? You literally are making no sense. "Yeah, I wish I could make an experience that would lack any distinctive features of its respective media" - every developer
This is a prime time for Nintendo and Xbox to give a price cut. I'm in the us and refuse to pay extra for a bundle...after waiting nearly 3 years to buy a console in store or online. This never was an issue with the ps4. I had multiple opportunities to buy the ps4 AT LAUNCH. I never had to wait three years to be told that I might have to wait in line to get one three years after launch.
I'm in Japan and could not find a PS5 the first year ...I ended up buying one at an auction for 90K yen / $650 now - but a year+ ago that was over $800 👀 Sony only allocated 1% PS5 stocks to Japan 🇯🇵
You know what: actually at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they did this, knowing they would revert back to the previous the price the whole time. This year has been so weird, I’m starting to think companies believe stunts like this will actually increase attention, focus, news, and essentially $
It really feels like Sony has completely turned on Japan, at least in regards to PlayStation, and that really sucks since Japan is kinda Sony's home country which would kinda be like me saying that the US has always been the worst country in existence even though I've literally never been outside of the US in my life. I get that the US is probably Sony and PlayStation's biggest individual market, but the regions they're increasing the price in combined have probably made more profits from the PS5 than the US alone has, and it just seems like a slap in the face to those regions, especially Japan. The worst bit to me is that they're doing this and yet other than God of War in a couple months and a remake of a 9 year old game that most people who are interested in have already played, the whole last third of this year seems really sparse for Sony so far, and if they want to announce more games they'll have to do it before mid September if they want full hype cycles. The only exclusive game we know of after GoW is technically Forspoken but that's a third party timed exclusive that most people aren't too excited for, and the closest there'll be to a first party exclusive is FF16 which considering how 7 Remake has gone with its PC ports and console exclusivity. Another thing is that it feels like Sony has a cycle in place now, with the PS3 they were way too cocky coming off of the PS2 and thought they could rule the world and then were devastated for most of that console generation, the PS4 they were humbled and made a great value console with solid games that killed the Xbox One, and now they think they're better than Xbox (not mentioning Nintendo, not only is the Switch a completely different ball of wax but it looks like the Switch is on track to be leagues above everything else with the potential of beating the PS2 for best selling console ever) and are being way too cocky again and now the PS5 is being messed up in all kinds of ways, whether Sony caused them or not. I can't help but think this is something of a pattern, although this is only the second time this has happened so who knows at this point. If it happens again it's absolutely a pattern and Sony needs to fix that.
What do you care about Japan?. It doesn't affect you in any way. Lol Sony will be fine after raising prices. They will continue to sell. People will continue to buy from scalpers at elevated prices internationally and within the US.
The US is the worst country in existence where you are not in North Korea, China, Cuba, and other parts of the world where civil liberties and comfort do not exist. I don't even need to read the rest of your message to know how out of touch you are.
I have a PS4, once warframe goes crossplataform I might just get and Xbox, after all elden ring is not exclusive and Bloodborne 2 is nowhere to be found (the game that made me pick ps4 in the first place being Bloodborne)
SOYNY did everything for Japan to hate the PlayStation brand for the past few years now and I think this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Good riddance to this once great brand that betrayed its roots.
@@Waifu4Life sony will be fine in japen. we are still getting JRPG games, and other JP gaming goodness ppl are acting like they have cut ties with japan and japanese gaming all-together. it's not really that much of a big deal, but ppl always gotta bitch moan and complain over nothing.
@@Yusei255 -Switch and PC are getting more and more exclusives that SOYNY is not getting -Again, the sales charts don't lie -Also, Japanese consumers not buying PlayStations doesn't mean that Japanese companies aren't making games, they're just making games for a western audience.
I bought a launch PS5 for 1849 of our currency here in Poland, but the cheapest you can get it now is like 3400. It's in a bundle with 2 games, but that's still almost a 100% difference. Now that USD is much stronger the $70 game price translates to ~75 via direct conversion atm, but depending on the day it used to be $90-100 before the Ukrainian war. The '$60' games that I bought in the PS3 gen cost 189 here, in the PS4 gen they used to be 249(while still being @ the same price in the US), and now they're 339-359. The $10 price hike translates to an increase of ~17% in the US, but it's + ~90% compared to PS3 games, and + ~36-44% compared to PS4 games, here. And they're surprised that every single PS5 Sony exclusive has underperformed, when that's the state of PS5 gaming outside of US? I certainly couldn't justify buying $100 games, so I haven't bought a single one since launch, and I've survived on PS+, my backlog, and PS5 upgrades, so far. Guess what, though? Sony has a solution for this, too - their digital games no longer go down in price as time goes by. You can find them on sales every now and then, but the savings are usually miniscule (10% max). And PS5 upgrades for Sony exclusives? They're behind a '$10" paywall now, while everyone else gives them out for free. This is my last Sony console, and I still have a PS3, a PSP, a PS4, a PS VIta, and a PS5 at my home, all in working order.
Purchased the Series S because I couldn’t find a PS5. Then I Finally got the PS5 and now there’s a bunch of Series X in store, STORE. As much as I love my PS5 much more than my Series X that I just purchased. It seems like PlayStation will fall behind until they do a revision with a cheaper model.
Unless Sony makes an entirely new system like the Series S, I doubt they will be able to make the PS5 any cheaper. Microsoft really thought ahead this generation with the discount model. Not everyone has a 4K TV, & the current global economy is really a rollercoaster right now.
It doesn't help that you can't just go to a store and buy a PS5 in Japan. Most stores you have to wait for a lottery, but a ticket and then hope you get called. Some stores even have necessary qualifications to get along with a lottery. Things like needing a store card with a certain amount spent at the store. Upping the price along with how difficult it is to get one without softening the blow with a free game or a year of PS Plus makes it really hard to want to buy one out here.
You could tell that Sony stopped caring about the japanese market even before the PS5 launched over there. With the massive price increase happening its no wonder why the japanese are reacting like that.
The fact that Japanese gamers were talking about Gaming PCs on twitter enough to get it trending is a massive statement about how they feel about the PS5 price increase. I do wonder how many of them will follow through, though.
Instead of spending money to keep 3rd party games off of other platforms, Sony should spend that money to not have to raise the cost of their system. This is very disappointing
So no one noticed the US price hike? The only console being sold now is the Horizon FW bundle at $50 over MSRP without the physical game. You do the math
@@pablozapata9694 Invitation only. Retailers only have HFW versions. A digital code costs them nothing, it’s vapor, some licensing cost whatever a couple bucks to print the code. That’s the margin. $70 for digital is for chumps IMO. Got physical for under $50 retail and even that’s too much, just wanted it now.
@@pablozapata9694 The PS store is invitation only by email notification for a chance to buy a PS5 console. They won’t ship more than one per account/address. That’s if they have availability, which I haven’t seen recently. Only the HFW editions at retailers.
@@VonDutchNL Straight up delusional, the switch is selling amazingly, one of the best selling consoles ever made. Meanwhile even xbox's 360 couldn't break into the top 8
Jim ryan destroying playstation. Going full pc, live service, price increases of games and system. Its crazy but If something wont change well, this is the end of playstation.
Long run for sure it will hurt. I still think people who want a PS5 now will dish out the money to get one. But with the additional costs of controllers, games and now the console, for those who are on the fence or don’t have a preference in the future, Xbox is looking much better as a deal with the Series S and game pass in terms of costs and the Nintendo Switch is in its prime still so only thing Keeping people to PlayStation will be those big titles.
@@beta3522 $300 Series s Vs a $400 PlayStation 5 slim with now a 20% inflation in those countries. With now a bigger gap in price and the Xbox Series X fitting comfortably in between the PlayStation 5 and Slim inflated prices, it just makes the Xbox look like a better deal for consumers who care more about the price and package than what console they side with. Nintendos most expensive console the Oled model is instead of a $50 disparity between the slim will now be greater with inflated prices, which again consumers who care about a good deal are now more likely not to spend the little extra for the PlayStation since the price is more now. In the long run it even with the Slim model will hurt them regardless, just depends how much.
@@zhobz8583 PS5 digital is not the slim version. Alright knowing that you have no idea what a Playstation slim is, I don't think you deserve anyone's attention. The $400 PS5 is not a slim version, it's just a digital version of the standard console.
@@beta3522 Apologies for assuming you meant the digital version when using the term slim, because as of now a PS5 Slim doesn’t exist, so it’s easy for someone to someone to jump to such a conclusion. Yes of course I know what a Slim model for Playstation is from their previous models, I even I have a PS2 Slim in my room. While technically the digital version isn’t an official slim model, it is slimmer, and with no official PS5 slim model yet, it’s easy for anyone to misconstrued your short question. Are you trying to propose a specific topic of the effects of the next PlayStation slim model in this argument? If so, that’s a fair question, though this generation falling behind in getting them in peoples hands due to shortages and everything going on in the world economy we aren’t going to get it anytime soon like we previously have after a release of a PlayStation. I still this will still hurt them until parts can become cheaper and that new model comes, which is going to be a while.
The only way they can justify it is if they bundle the Dualsense Edge with the consoles to make up for the price hike. But let’s face it, that’s not gonna happen
I'd say it will hurt the PS5 sales. The Japanese people are very prideful when it comes to their country. A price hike there and not the USA really shows that Sony isn't as interested in the Japanese market anymore, which they are a Japanense company at the end of the day. I could definitely see more console gamers going to PC, or even going to Xbox now.
They will go to Switch or modile before going to PC or even Xbox. It wasn’t exactly like Sony was doing well in Japan because it’s tracking like the Wii U with worst software sales. To point, Nintendo took the Top 30 again this week.
I think it will be fine. Nintendo pretty much owns Japan. Seems like Sony is happy to sell what they can at the price their comfortable with. I think it will sell less than PS4 for sure.
I just checked and 1 dollar is about 137 japanese yen which is even worse than the Nepalese Rupee at 127. I think the japanese yen not too long ago was about as good as an indian rupee which in itself is usually slightly better than the Nepalese rupee. So yeah, that is pretty bad.
I haven't played my ps4 much since I got my switch three years ago. I think at this point im just gonna skip the ps5. Also gonna skip FF16 because I'm a fan of the older games.
I bought two PS4 consoles last early last year and have hardly used them as I'm playing more on my Xbox One. In fact I've actually considered trading in my PS4 for an Xbox Series S.
I plan on trying to build my first pc next year and might skip PS5 altogether. I might get a XSX eventually so I can use Game Pass for console and to use the backwards compatibility and put my OG Xbox, 360, and X1X in the closet and only pull them out for the games that aren't backwards compatible. Got a Switch OLED and really enjoying it. Haven't hooked it up to the TV yet but enjoying it in portable mode.
I've had this theory for a while, I think Sony is trying to position themselves as the 'Apple' of gaming. Their games, consoles and other products are all more expensive than their competitors but they offer a guarantee of high quality that a lot of people are willing to pay for. I think they want PlayStation to be seen as the 'premium' gaming company
@@martinflores7354 alright, chill. Like I said it's just a theory. I'm not saying I believe that they are the premium brand, I'm just saying I think that's what they want to be. It's ok to disagree with me ✌️
Current conversion rates means *after* the price increase it’s ~$440, and was before ~$360. Bigass price hike sure, but both of those are a pretty good deal
I can vouched for Horizon PS5 on PSDirect, for whatever reason it mostly available their. I think it's the right time for Microsoft to capitalize on this situation to convice Japanese consumers to get an XBox, specially the series S, all it need to have more Japanese games being ported. The problem right now with Japanese games are they also released it to either the Switch of PlayUStation consoles, that need to break and Soul Hacker 2 is a start. Right now, if you enjoy mostly playing Japanese Anime Waifu games, you either get it for the Switch, but if you want that high performance experience, you have to get a PlayUStation 5 or a high end PC. At this point, Phil Spencer needs to convince Japanese company to port their game on the XBox ecosystem. Also, Jim Ryan is "A Bad Man, A Very Very Bad Man!".
I didn't realize Japan got it so cheap. I know the yen is weaker than USD but its $441 now with the price hikes. Doesn't offset the lower wages in comparison I suppose but you never think about how big the exchange rate difference is.
Playstations are selling less and less in Japan. Ironic since Playstation is Japanese. The United States became the major market for Playstation, so, Sony is becoming more western, more American.
PlayStation is now US. Their HQ was moved to California and the old HQ just became a studio than got shrunken down, Sony Group is still Japanese, just not the PlayStation branch
60500 Japanese Yen converts to 439.77 United States Dollars... this is clickbait drama lol. They're still paying $60 less than we are with the price hike.
The amazing chad move by japan would be for japanese developers to boycott sony. It would finally allow xbox a chance to give some competition in that region seeing as how nintendo doesn't react to anyone.
@@benking9128 Not powerful enough. You are deluded if you think something as weak as a smart phone is an equal alternative. My reasoning is that them going to a platform no one cares for in that region is exactly why it would be such a powerful act of protest.
@@Hadeks_Marow but there isn’t much of a reason for the developers to boycott PlayStation. It’s money at the end of the day, they don’t have that same concern as the consumer. They’ll carry on putting games on there regardless or move to Nintendo where it’s got a huge install base. Xsx/s is already 10x smaller than ps5 install base so it makes no sense for them to jump to that. Especially when there are big exclusives like ff7 and ff16 coming. Alongside PlayStation’s marketing for sf6 and re4 remake. Xbox has old persona ports and wu long for marketing. That’s isn’t going to do much for them over there.
Yes GameStop has the PS5 bundle and the one I go to has had an Xbox series x in the case for a couple of weeks and the employee informed me they have more in the back because the company keeps sending them every week.
People will pay $1000 for a phone , then complain about $550 for a console that's loaded with technology. I think the Xbox Series X and the PS5 were way underpriced from the beginning.
Agreed 1000 for a phone because it's a social/camera improved lifestyle device to many people (even if a pocket computer) but judge a console. Sure consoles are luxury items we don't need but 1000 for a phone is a lot. Phones are 'required in some cases of importance besides what you access in a web browser than an app' but for $300 it's fine with a different phone brand besides the phone plan.
I’m an Xbox guy but I in no way want Sony to fail. They are doing what they have to do along with many other companies. This is a time of uncharted uncanniness. I don’t believe that’s a word. Good day!
Sony *NEEDS* to fail this gen, so that the company itself can evolve with better business strategies, and lean more into pro consumer support than anti consumer. Microsoft learned, and is still learning to be better. Nintendo, well, they just dont give a shit.😅
What's interesting is that recently following the price hike, the Xbox/Series S,X are trending on Japanese Twitter and my timeline had alot of Japanese people buying the Series S and X. And from what I saw and read, they seem to really like the Series S. Probably due to it's size and performance since many Japanese live in tight flats so space matter. I think Microsoft might take this to their advantage and start to boost their market in Japan (Which used to be known to be weak)
Holy sh!t man... I mean, almost ¥10,000 es almost a 100 usd increase on it's price point. But in the tweet from Famitsu, they say it's a ¥5500 increase. So... There's a little mistake there...
A 20% price increase? While already charging more for games? Sony really going the ps3 route this generation
it went from maybe getting it for some of the games erlier than when they port to PC to never getting it that day. I didn;'t get it because horizon interests me little.
Sony is the only one charging 70 for games? Interesting
for their like 4 ps5 games? hardly a big deal.
@@ShakeNbake9106 yes they are. Only 3rd party games are charging 70 along with Sony. Xbox exclusives are 60 and under and free with game pass.
Making it harder to find their games for cheaper with the removal of digital keys from anywhere but the PS store probably isn't helping much, either.
I don't think I can ever remember a console going up in price two years after it was released.
If feel this is in response to losing COD revenue and the fact that they pay a lot of money to keep games off gamepass
@@Vinman666 Or to keep the price of the PSVR2 lower.
@@Vinman666 They haven't lost COD revenue, though. If they do, it'll be years down the road.
@@Vinman666 they haven't lost the cod revenue what are you talking about? They still earn that revenue and new games are going to be released on PS5 too, just because they are in the process of buying Activision Blizzard doesn't mean that cod will be Xbox only
This is the only console to do this I can think of, along with the new Oculus Rift. I think it bodes poorly for both systems.
It really does seem like Sony has forgotten the PS3 generation. Pretty crazy what they are deciding to do.
It’s all about time. PS3 was so long ago
The PS3 generation was them trying to avoid bankruptcy.
By keeping the price the same globally?
Who else remembers 599 US DOLLARS!?
@@Kyshakk it might happen again, but Jim Ryan brings the company to the ground
It’s crazy Sony would raise the price NOW right as they’re getting ready to announce the PSVR2 and the dual sense edge which are both going to be pricey items in their own right.
PSVR will also be 500 dollars. Highly doubt they are going to let the money stand on the table when you look at the Quest 2. Yes that's stand alone. But they also practice anticompetitive practices by keeping things like RE vr exclusive it's dumb.
It really seems unnecessary to have taken this approach of "just raise the price lol". As you said, you would think that their market projections for PSVR2 and the new controller sales would help mitigate the damage. Alternatively, something like a bundle with some game becoming standard with a 40 dollar price increase would've been another lazy way to hide the cost increases. It's not like they'd even have to provide a physical copy. Just include some download code in the box for a digital edition of a game. I guess they'd rather deal with the bad PR.
I wonder if part of the reason they don't care is because they have no difficulty in moving the few systems that are produced. If they don't immediately end up in the hands of an actual gamer, then a scalper will grab it anyway.
People have been consistently been buying PS5 for over $700 from scalpers for the past 2 years, why not raise the price?
PS5 Edge around 150$ to 200$.
PS VR2 500$.
Jim Ryan's prices:
250$ for the Edge and 700$ for PS VR2.
I hope I'm wrong. We'll see.
Is playstation becoming the new Apple???
Sony has been so tone deaf this generation, it's baffling.
Looks like the success of the PS4 got to Sony’s head, this exact thing happened with the PS3 where the success of the PS2 give Sony an inflated ego, time will tell if history repeats itself.
In Japan that's about a 22% increase... damn.
Look at the inflation rate in Japan this year alone Consumer prices up 9.1 percent
22% is wrong, its an 8.1% increase
Sony sure doesn't seem like a Japanese company when they seem to alienate their domestic market.
SIE aka the PlayStation part of Sony isn't Japanese anymore since they moved their HQ to California. Sony Group Corporation is still based in Japan and is the main part of Sony Group. Jim Ryan needs to be fired.
He destroyed PlayStation in months
Sony is Japanese they became the king of TVs again when it comes to image quality...Playstation moved ro California and is now an american subsidiary of Japanese Sony
@@shae1547 Not months. Years. He became Chief Executive Officer during the PS3 era. It's been downhill ever since. PS4 was nice but it was WAY too narrative driven. He describes playstation as a "place to tell stories" rather than just a place to play games. He single handedly narrowed the industry forcing every AAA game (by means of leading by example) to be a blockbuster rather than just be simple fun.
@@Hadeks_Marow only took a few months once he became CEO, he became CEO in 2019 not ps3 days
$70 games, the most expensive console.... Good job, Sony. It truly lives up to the joke name Pay$tation now.
"For the payers"
you also see those 70$ price tags on other system's games.
why act like sony is the only one doing it.
@@Yusei255 I'm only seeing it on Square Enix titles on PC. Nowhere else. I won't buy them, either.
Sony is the only one doing it across the board.
@@Yusei255 Sony is also the only one who charges $10 for a next-gen upgrade from a game you already own.
People need to THINK for themselves. When you make a excuse of yen to Renminbi. That is BULL if your competitor has the EXACT excuse of yen to Renminbi. And are NOT raising their price. In fact they have the exact same SUPPLY chain.
Jesus….. Sony is really blowing this, “BIGTIME,” wow…..
Sony is in debt, so it makes sense why they don't want to lose more money.
That hurts. I’m so glad I was able to grab one already. This means the digital edition is now the price the disc one was. The disc one is now double the price of a Series S and Switch. When you factor in the fact that games here are also significantly more expensive, it really cascades the price to be a playstation gamer compared to MS and Nintendo.
That comment above is a scammer..be careful.
Plus the switch is absolutely hammering Xbox and PlayStation in quality, exclusive titles. Probably 5 to one at this point.
The Japanese value the status quo and that includes the prices of things. They are unfortunately not paid very well over there and they don't want to pay more for the things in their lives. I've heard there was huge backlash when ice cream had to have it's price increased a little bit. I'm not surprised with this reaction from Japan.
Now add on the value of their currency is decreasing falling to a 24 year low this year.
Not to mention its not being increased in the u.s. its just Sony moving further and further away from japan is all
Raising the price of a console that you have already set the MSRP for is just fucked up in general.
I remember reading that, due to the pandemic, a store in Japan increased prices by a very marginal cost, (I can't remember exactly, but was like 100 yen things costed 110 now) and the owner was really sorry he had to do it.
Many things haven't increased in price in 20 years, even with the 2008 recession.
@@JizzSock_ I can give you a source if you want
I miss the days of Kazuo Hirai, Satoru Iwata and Reggie Filsaime. They had personalities to them that made them likeable despite some of their shortcomings they may have had as leaders of their respective divisions, Jim Ryan on the hand seems lifeless and so out of touch with the consumer. I think Phil Spencer is the only one right now that has that same somewhat likeableness that the previous leaders had
Jack Tretton was a treasure 🤴
Big daddy Phil is a gamer and has been with MS for about 30 years. I love phil
@@MemoriesDestroyUs He is nice but dont forget that he is also partly responsible for the trainwreck that is Halo Infinite.
Series X|S has done rather well for itself. Already passing the lifetime of the XBO. So MS should capitalize on that and market the shit out of it. Especially the smaller form factor of the S and make all sorts of deals for gamepass.
Just imagine if Xbox outsells PS5 in Japan
I think if Microsoft starts including like 3 or 6 months gamepass with a Series S purchase, it would cause sales to explode. They did a 3 month bundle with the all digital Xbox one so I don't see why they couldn't.
I really want to get the series x that thing is a freaking powerhouse. I already got an S. I hope they make an Xbox Series E.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME Hehe, imagine seeing enhanced for Xbox series S/E/X on a game box
@@Rob-hu3yj Honestly i can already see it happening because so many japanese gamers are frustrated with PS5 price increase, even some of them already said they want to buy Xbox instead.
I think it’s a really bad move by Sony in the wake of the huge strides Microsoft is making. If it wasn’t for game pass and massive studio acquisitions I don’t think this would hurt sony too much, but there are now a number of reasons to go Xbox over ps5 this gen. With Sony not being able to get far out of the gate due to the economic climate, the stars might be aligning for Microsoft to take this generation.
The business model should really be to make the money back on software.
I also couldn’t agree more that Sony should have been more creative if they are adamant to make a better return on the hardware. If they chucked in 12 months of ps+ essential or a game like horizon of gt7 they could actually spin it that that they are adding value to base cost. Barmy.
Dude, don't you think Sony knows all this? Why would Jim Ryan increase the price for the PS5, knowing it would only incentivise customers to buy an Xbox? Obviously, Sony knows gamers are going to still buy the PS5. PS gamers complain about the price increase of exclusive games, and having to buy the upgrades for some of their older titles, and they still cough up the money. The PS5 is the 'designer' console like Apple, Chanel, Gucci, and all those types of brands. Sony is selling the PS5 as a privilege.
@@kubabooba548 I was gonna buy a ps5 but now xbox series x looks 👌 maybe I'll wait for a ps5 pro
@@kubabooba548 Last time Sony had that energy it hurt the PS3 badly.
@@albertsantos47 You people still believe in PS5 Pro?
Sony hasn't been able to make enough regular PS5s for past 2 years, so why would they make a Pro model?
@@kubabooba548 sony sold the ps3 as a privilege, told costumers they should work a second job to get it, look how it went for them? This will hurt sony's reputation in the long term along the controversies they have been so famous for the last 3 years
Sony needs to be severely humbled again like they were back during the ps3 era
If Microsoft is smart this is when they go for the jugular and start making a big push with not just the big gaming companies but the smaller ones too in Japan.
Exactly, if Microsoft can win over those jrpg's in japan and get 1 or 2 good exclusives like sony has with spiderman and uncharted this could be the time xbox becomes bigger than sony
Hopefully MS will make that push
a LOT of players already bought an xbox for PSO2
Already happening the Japanese support for Xbox this gen is fantastic from publishers like atlus to indie ones
@@rokmare plenty more BAMCO titles coming too like super robot wars and finally some gundam representation for seemingly the first time since 360
Sony is in the midts of its "Apple Moment" they're gonna try and spin this as the move of a luxuru brand and be unapologetic about it. They're banking of the normies seeing owning a PS5 as a status symbol.
Apple has never increased the price of a product after release lmao. This is just pure greed.
@@アノルド-g4r Apple sells you products at exorbitant prices for the same power as some mid tier windows builds,
Wow it’s so crazy to see all this unfold. What an arrogant sony we are dealing with this generation. $10 price on games increase,PS Plus membership tiers, paying to keep games off services, and now a PS5 price increase.. yeah Xbox won this generation.
They actually don't pay to keep games off of other services
@@bossfrank13 can you prove that?
They spent all that money keeping games off game pass, they gotta make up the costs for it somehow.
it's really called inflation Xbox is by design gonna be able to take those hits.
What are y’all playing on Xbox?
Where was the public outcry over Facebook hiking the Occulus Quest 2? Funny how that works out.
I'm happy with my PS4 and Series S atm. With how Sony treated the Vita and original PSVR I've got no intention of buying more Sony tech within the next few years.
I love the vita it’s such a shame
How did Sony treat the original PSVR? There's literally tons of games for it.
I gotta wonder what exclusive games Sony even has upcoming that appeals to the Japanese audience. All I can think of right now is FF but 16 & 7 Rebirth are far off still.
I mean crisis core reunion but that’s also on Xbox
Thats it and multiplatform japanese games.
There are plenty of Japanese audience games that are usually coming only to PS/Nintendo. The thing is they are literally only for the Japanese audience. Like the JP Nintendo Directs have more games than the Western Directs.
Maybe kojimas exclusive and kingdom hearts but KH is multiplat as of now
If Sucker Punch is working on a sequel to Ghost of Tsushima that'll probably sell pretty well there whenever they're ready to unveil it. Japan eats up anything that romanticizes japanese history hence the meteoric rise of the Demon Slayer anime over there. Other than that though maybe God of War? Though apparently Kratos doesn't appeal to the Japanese as a protagonist so maybe not.
I'm not in Japan, but I didn't pick up final fantasy 7 remake until it came to steam. There are people that will wait.
Yep
I think it’s interesting, this is the time for Microsoft to make their move. First we have the Activision/Blizzard deal, with a fairly weak response from Sony in court in Brazil. Now Sony is alienating their customers with a price hike. If Xbox locks down a big exclusive for the Japanese market, we could see that upward trend over the Xbox One continue to grow and who knows where that could lead if Sony doesn’t want their “home” turf.
I see Sony buying out a major Japanese 3rd party (Square-Enix, possibly Capcom) in a bid to "retake" Japan, assuming they try. For Sony, holding big AAA Japanese games hostage to their platform is more than enough to bring Japan into the fold. No need to release appealing, affording hardware or games of their own or anything.
Especially with the way Sony is censoring a lot of popular games in Japan if Xbox would pick up on those studios and say Hey we will be glad to bring out your games as is without the censoring.
I have been loyal and fan of sony consoles since 1. While I am turned off from ps5 with this and will skip this gen unless sony starts being reasonable again, it wont make me get Xbox even if it gets nice exclusives. Xbox S does not have a build in disc drive. That is a dealbreaker for me. So new gen ps5 with disc drive was the only one I cared about. But that has become way to expensive. So I'm noping out of this gen alltogether and will just entertain myself with my ps4 backlog. There are a lot of amazing games still to play here.
If console gaming ever goes 100% digital, I'll nope out of consoles alltogether as well and make the jump to PC. The only reason I stick to consoles is because it has physical media still which I am fond off. But if it does away with that, PC it is.
My point, I honestly doubt PS5 rage will influence Xbox sales a lot. I of course can be wrong, but I feel like a lot of people who wanted the PS5, especialy the disc version, wanted it for reasons that Xbox can not bridge. If anything, I think it will just result in fewer ps5 sales. If people jump ship I think it's more likely they jump to PC or Switch (if they dont have those already) or even go retro and start looking into older consoles again.
Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast. - Ron Burgundy.
I think Sony looks at the data and realizes simply, it won't matter. Sony has done so many anti consumer moves this generation and their fans do not seem to care and will justify any move the company makes. They don't care Sony charges more for titles, they don't care that Sony won't let developers put their game up on sale when they want to discount it for consumers, they don't care Sony banned download codes in physical stores to keep an absolute monopoly on digital titles. Sony could charge players by minute like some kind of early 90s phone sex line and the fan base would thank Sony for it.
How does Sony have a monopoly on digital sales when the Eshop exist and so does steam , epic game store and xbox store etc. That does not even make sense also Nintendo 64 games 70 dollars back long ago and Sony was not even the first publisher to start charging 70 dollars. Inflation is a thing not sure you heard of it. Speaking of fans i hope you have this much energy for the fanbase that defends every single that being Nintendo fans.
@@johndoughnuts I don't think you quite understand what was said. The only way any Sony customer can purchase a digital code, to use on Sonys storeis through the Sony store. They have a monopoly on their own marketplace. Both Xbox and Nintendo do indeed have their own marketplaces, but they do not have a monopoly. You can go to a physical store and still purchase a game code through the store and directly through Xbox or Nintendo, this allows businesses to create competition and incentives like even a 10% discount to get people into a physical store, that competition and type of promotion save consumers money. Sony has gone out of their way to ban this, and now you can only ever buy from Sony on their marketplace at whatever price they would like to set....hence, a monopoly.
@@litaljohn Ah okay thank you for the extended explantation. Your initially post i was confused by how Sony simply having a digital store makes it a monopoly. I can see why that would be a problem , i still think it will get thrown out in court.
People need to THINK for themselves. When you make a excuse of yen to Renminbi. That is BULL if your competitor has the EXACT excuse of yen to Renminbi. And are NOT raising their price. In fact they have the exact same SUPPLY chain.
Sony just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Playstation 5 for either SKU, nor will they purchase any of Sony's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sony, publicly apologize and cancel the price hike for PS5 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
That's not to mention they moved their business headquarters to America
So does the Japanese market these days like Nintendo and the Mobile Market more? How’s the PC market doing there?
Bruh, flashbacks to 2008 memes. 😄
Not sure if people realize you’re trolling. The expert in Japanese culture bit should give it away.
We must never let this meme die lol
Oh you missed the worse part... They didn't raise their prices in the US when Japan was considered their core market for the longest time...
Microsoft has a golden opportunity in Japan now. I would flood the market with Xbox’s and increase advertising in Japan. If they had a jrpg in the works now is the time to announce it. Now is the time to announce a partnership with Kojima if there is one. Now is the time to drop some bags to secure a “Japanese style/popular” console exclusive.
But end the end Sony will be fine. They have amazing 1st party and console exclusive games that people want to play.
If Microsoft really wanted to be cutthroat, they would lower the price by $50 or so and include gamepass for a few months. They'd take a bit of a loss, but would make some headway in Japan(if they can add some jrpg games into gamepass).
Trashbox is over a 1.2+million behind, PS5 Good luck
@@richparkinson9647 I mean we have persona 3,4,5 and dragon quest in game pass (persona not available yet)
@@marty8370 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
you do realize microsoft is already takin a loss with gamepass but they can do that because the are worth 2.2 trillion dollars. Sony only worth about 70 billion. so they can't. microsoft makes most of their money from software not from the xbox. they can literally buy sony 40 times over if they want
The article here has gotten their facts wrong. They are comparing the old price of 49980 excluding Japanese consumption tax of 10% against the new price of 60478 including the 10% tax. The price increase is 10%, not 20%.
to be honest, i got my PS5 roughly a year ago now and haven't been using it that much at all. Eldenrig was the only title for me keeping me in front of the screen for some time. Still have GT7, HFW, Kena and Tales of Arise in my Backlog, but so far none of those Games really pulled me in front of the Screen.
That'd why the Ps4 and Ps5 should have Had Backwards Compatibility at least for Ps1 and Ps2 games
Great thing about game pass. You can just dip in and out with no additional cost for trying out games. Found loads of games I would not have thought of buying but have really enjoyed playing.
@@ProffyChaos yes, using GamePass for PC a lot lately. Maybe i should get a Series S just for the big Screen.
@@derkretschesven I was lucky to get one of the Halo Series X but if I hadn't I would have definitely gone with the Series S for the big screen.
Yo dude you went Chad mode without glasses 👓
I’m Japanese and I think it’s good time to moving on Xbox, and not a few gamers in Japan considering about it. Xbox Game Pass is attractive to us well. Hopefully we want exclusive games made by Japanese makers.
Sony, especially Jim Ryan should consider about their strategies here.
The price is going up by 10% not 20%. Gotta love gaming journalists who can't read articles. 49478 is the price for the digital edition and 60478 is the price for the disk edition, AFTER the price increase. The disk version price was 55000 before the increase. They're not increasing it from 49478 to 60478.
Graphics cards are at one of their lowest prices in years too. Bad timing for Sony.
Given that Xbox and Switch aren’t raising prices and PC parts are cheap for the first time in forever Sony is having a big YTAH moment for everyone that isn’t in the cult.
But can you build a PC with the same specs for the same price?
@Gir Biscuits someone's bitter
@@robertlawrence9000 Not yet but the diference is smaller now. It used ro be up to $1700 for an equivalent PC but now is about $950-975
@@robertlawrence9000 PS5 is still extremely hard to find in Japan, I'd rather pay 150k yen for decent PC right now, than to keep 60k yen in my bank account hoping that someday I'll be able to buy PS5.
@@robertlawrence9000 Why should that matter in any way? Switch doesn’t have the same Specs. Steam Deck doesn’t have the same specs. There have been consoles in multiple generations that didn’t sell well despite being the most powerful.
A PC has many advantages over console even if it’s less powerful. Literal decades of game library, freedom to mod and do anything you want with it, a PC can be upgraded bit by bit over time, a PC isn’t software locked into an ecosystem.
Of course a PC can be built to be way more powerful than a PS5 of your budget allows. But there’s 0 reason to think being more powerful than a console matters.
I was not able to buy one from shelfs in Germany, and they now increasing price of PS5...
Sony is no longer a Japanese company it is a USA company it moved to California back in 2014
Also Microsoft is a Japanese company that has no touch with Japanese consumers at all then suddenly move to the United States in California back in 2015 that's why Xbox is failing in Japan loll😂
Specifically Sony Computer Entertainment. Decisions like this would still need to be approved by the parent company.
@@MightNight99 microsoft has been an american company since its origin???
@@MightNight99 at least read the article why do you think Sony is now complete out of touch with their base, ever since they moved to California the CEO of Japan Shuhei Yushida got forced out of his position.
@@SelecaoOfMidas their base is in California and they are completely out of touch with Japanese developer's and yes they did get approval from their parent company.
I live in Montreal Quebec, Canada. Some retailers like Game Stop 🛑 are ONLY selling the PS5 Horizon bundle on a financing plan with like 15-20% default interest rate. Sure it’s affordable short term but long term you always pay 30% more in the long run.
In Canada the trending triple A games are 90-93$, our tax rate is 15%. In Canada, you cannot be poor & be an up to date gamer. 540$ spent on 5 games is hella expensive.
Passing along costs to the consumer is what businesses do. Same applies to why food & gas is so expensive right now. Why game's are becoming $70 now. Makes me grateful for thing's like Game Pass. I've been able to play games I couldn't normally afford thanks to it.
Games you will never own and disappear before long. You are the perfect person for the coming future of things. Accepting your place with a whimper as long as some comfort is provided.
Correction: It’s a 10% increase not 20%. Blu-ray model in Japan was originally 49,980jpy BEFORE tax, 54,978jpy AFTER tax. So the price increase is 5,500jpy to 60,478jpy AFTER tax as the Famitsu tweet clearly says.
Interesting how Sony is increasing the price of the PS5 even in their home country where they're as successful if not more than the US.
Ummm, have you looked at a Japanese sales chart?
In Japan the Series S is super popular.
The last time Sony served itself a hard L, it was back when the fat PS3 and its ginormous price tag were a thing. The cell processor thing made it worse as third parties began looking elsewhere for exclusivity deals.
For many this will be the straw that breaks the camels back. In a gaming world that already embraces PC more and more and exclusives play less of a role now then ever. I think many people, myself included will sour on Sony this time, especially when neither Nintendonor MS wil raise prices. Was a Sony customer since PS1, now they completely lost me. I get my entertainment elsewhere.
The last of us 2 was my straw. Luckily it came out at the end of last gen or I might have gone with PS5 over series x
Same
who the hell can afford a pc as powerful as a series X? Jesus you guys must a have an isht load of money how about you gimme some of that cash you can afford it if you can afford a pc.
Same here. I have a PS2 and a PSP and they´ll probably be the last Sony consoles I'll ever get in my life. After the GT7 fiasco, I lost all interest for Sony, PlayStation and all of its ecosystem.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME Any 3060 will be comparable to Series X or PS5. Unlike gaming consoles PC is not a single purpose machine. A whole lot of Japanese population doesn't even own a PC and only rely on their cellphone/smartphone. For them PC is a viable investment for both gaming and general computing.
Sony kills its Japanese studios, increases pricing by 20%.
Sony: These are great decisions
It’s odd that people keep saying they’ll default to PC because of the PS5 price hike. Gaming PCs and Laptops cost at least twice as much as a PS5.
Assuming you already have a usable PC for doing other computer functions, upgrading to a gaming PC is less cost effective.
Or just get a Steam Deck and wait for the Playstation games to come over. That's what I've done. The games play great on it.
"Gaming PCs and Laptops cost at least twice as much as a PS5"
Not for long.
Crypto went bust, Etherium is about to move to "Proof of Stake" (no more mining new Etherium), 2023 will see the cheapest GPU market we've seen in a decade.
"Gaming PCs and Laptops cost at least twice as much as a PS5" nah, GPU prices went down recently
@@aboi9596 but a gpu is not the only thing you need….
Yeah but you can do a lot more with a gaming PC than with a PS5, like playing PS1-3 games.
Sony went from "for the players" to "from the players" real quick.
For the payers
Im starting to think I´ll pass on the PS5 entirely for this gen.
Another thing to point out about PS5's in Japan is now they are only availble via lottery by individual stores and Amazon Japan has the invitation system. So, it's actually not possible to walk into a store to buy a PS5 presently. I have seen the OLED Switch and Xbox Series S in stores, but not the Series X. And as I mentioned on a different video, scalpers are pretty bad here, too. Some online electronic stores have the Series S, but Series X seems to be temporarily sold out in most places. It seems like we'll just have to wait for 6 months to a year to see if these systems become more readily available. Also, the sales of games has been affected because people have such a difficult time finding these systems, so game sales are suffering to an extent as well.
Can we even call Sony a japanese company by now
well yes because they ARE a japanese company
not sure what not being a japanese company has to do with anything
@@cheeppacees88888 they aren't they moved out of Japan in 2014 to California
@@cheeppacees88888 Yep, but the Playstation division, is American now, after they moved their HQ.
@@droneoverwatch4550 Simply put, this move is uncharacteristic of a typical Japanese company, especially an older established one.
In the UK you can’t buy a PS5 without HFW bundled in for £500 which has no increased to £530. I think that’s around $625 will at it’s Og price (£450) was around $530
I think Sony over estimates their exclusives. They really are not worth the upcharge. Xbox and switch offer plenty of Japanese titles and with the functionality of switch as a handheld and Xbox with xcloud, they both really have way more options at a better price.
I think you seriously underestimate PLAYSTATION as a must have console for gaming, if you’re a true gamer and don’t have a PS you’re not a true gamer. Your an xbox / Nintendo fan or a casual gamer. The price people were able to sell the PS5 for on eBay was way way higher than what they could sell an Xbox for. One would would be an Xbox series for 900 bucks it was deemed not worth it.
@@Ben.B.Benjamin Bruh. Yeah my favourite hardcore gaming experience - "cinematic story-driven third person action game with realistic graphics No. 829"
@@duhotatoday3277 Erm... You know every dev strives to make a game that could be considered a movie in its own right., right? If not why use mo-cap, if not why use established VA's? If not why use better engines for more realistic graphics? There a big difference between PS games and interactive movie games like Quantic Dreams games.
Some of the best games are taken from movies and Books and some of the best games become movies or TV shows...
And who's at the front doing it the best SONY / PLAYSTATION.
@@duhotatoday3277You want. Hardcore gaming experience do a 10,000 piece puzzle or a plain white wall
@@Ben.B.Benjamin "every dev strives to make a game that could be considered a movie in its own right" lmao what a baseless bs.
Maybe every director strives to make a movie that could be considered a book?
You literally are making no sense.
"Yeah, I wish I could make an experience that would lack any distinctive features of its respective media" - every developer
This is a prime time for Nintendo and Xbox to give a price cut. I'm in the us and refuse to pay extra for a bundle...after waiting nearly 3 years to buy a console in store or online. This never was an issue with the ps4. I had multiple opportunities to buy the ps4 AT LAUNCH. I never had to wait three years to be told that I might have to wait in line to get one three years after launch.
What got me to start losing interest is PS is when they introduced the $70 a game ideology.
I'm in Japan and could not find a PS5 the first year ...I ended up buying one at an auction for 90K yen / $650 now - but a year+ ago that was over $800 👀 Sony only allocated 1% PS5 stocks to Japan 🇯🇵
You know what: actually at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they did this, knowing they would revert back to the previous the price the whole time. This year has been so weird, I’m starting to think companies believe stunts like this will actually increase attention, focus, news, and essentially $
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Here in Japan, Mostly they buy from reseller with average price of ¥70,000~
It really feels like Sony has completely turned on Japan, at least in regards to PlayStation, and that really sucks since Japan is kinda Sony's home country which would kinda be like me saying that the US has always been the worst country in existence even though I've literally never been outside of the US in my life. I get that the US is probably Sony and PlayStation's biggest individual market, but the regions they're increasing the price in combined have probably made more profits from the PS5 than the US alone has, and it just seems like a slap in the face to those regions, especially Japan. The worst bit to me is that they're doing this and yet other than God of War in a couple months and a remake of a 9 year old game that most people who are interested in have already played, the whole last third of this year seems really sparse for Sony so far, and if they want to announce more games they'll have to do it before mid September if they want full hype cycles. The only exclusive game we know of after GoW is technically Forspoken but that's a third party timed exclusive that most people aren't too excited for, and the closest there'll be to a first party exclusive is FF16 which considering how 7 Remake has gone with its PC ports and console exclusivity.
Another thing is that it feels like Sony has a cycle in place now, with the PS3 they were way too cocky coming off of the PS2 and thought they could rule the world and then were devastated for most of that console generation, the PS4 they were humbled and made a great value console with solid games that killed the Xbox One, and now they think they're better than Xbox (not mentioning Nintendo, not only is the Switch a completely different ball of wax but it looks like the Switch is on track to be leagues above everything else with the potential of beating the PS2 for best selling console ever) and are being way too cocky again and now the PS5 is being messed up in all kinds of ways, whether Sony caused them or not. I can't help but think this is something of a pattern, although this is only the second time this has happened so who knows at this point. If it happens again it's absolutely a pattern and Sony needs to fix that.
What do you care about Japan?. It doesn't affect you in any way. Lol Sony will be fine after raising prices. They will continue to sell. People will continue to buy from scalpers at elevated prices internationally and within the US.
The US is the worst country in existence where you are not in North Korea, China, Cuba, and other parts of the world where civil liberties and comfort do not exist. I don't even need to read the rest of your message to know how out of touch you are.
sony have not turned their backs on anything.
everything will be fine.
I have a PS4, once warframe goes crossplataform I might just get and Xbox, after all elden ring is not exclusive and Bloodborne 2 is nowhere to be found (the game that made me pick ps4 in the first place being Bloodborne)
in jamaica one console is for 100k + and the retailers are gonna have a filed day with that price hike
SOYNY did everything for Japan to hate the PlayStation brand for the past few years now and I think this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Good riddance to this once great brand that betrayed its roots.
sony will still be fine in Japan.
@@Yusei255 Sales numbers don't lie.
@@Waifu4Life sony will be fine in japen.
we are still getting JRPG games, and other JP gaming goodness
ppl are acting like they have cut ties with japan and japanese gaming all-together.
it's not really that much of a big deal, but ppl always gotta bitch moan and complain over nothing.
@@Yusei255
-Switch and PC are getting more and more exclusives that SOYNY is not getting
-Again, the sales charts don't lie
-Also, Japanese consumers not buying PlayStations doesn't mean that Japanese companies aren't making games, they're just making games for a western audience.
I bought a launch PS5 for 1849 of our currency here in Poland, but the cheapest you can get it now is like 3400. It's in a bundle with 2 games, but that's still almost a 100% difference. Now that USD is much stronger the $70 game price translates to ~75 via direct conversion atm, but depending on the day it used to be $90-100 before the Ukrainian war. The '$60' games that I bought in the PS3 gen cost 189 here, in the PS4 gen they used to be 249(while still being @ the same price in the US), and now they're 339-359. The $10 price hike translates to an increase of ~17% in the US, but it's + ~90% compared to PS3 games, and + ~36-44% compared to PS4 games, here.
And they're surprised that every single PS5 Sony exclusive has underperformed, when that's the state of PS5 gaming outside of US? I certainly couldn't justify buying $100 games, so I haven't bought a single one since launch, and I've survived on PS+, my backlog, and PS5 upgrades, so far. Guess what, though? Sony has a solution for this, too - their digital games no longer go down in price as time goes by. You can find them on sales every now and then, but the savings are usually miniscule (10% max). And PS5 upgrades for Sony exclusives? They're behind a '$10" paywall now, while everyone else gives them out for free.
This is my last Sony console, and I still have a PS3, a PSP, a PS4, a PS VIta, and a PS5 at my home, all in working order.
Purchased the Series S because I couldn’t find a PS5. Then I Finally got the PS5 and now there’s a bunch of Series X in store, STORE. As much as I love my PS5 much more than my Series X that I just purchased. It seems like PlayStation will fall behind until they do a revision with a cheaper model.
Unless Sony makes an entirely new system like the Series S, I doubt they will be able to make the PS5 any cheaper. Microsoft really thought ahead this generation with the discount model. Not everyone has a 4K TV, & the current global economy is really a rollercoaster right now.
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG why would sony do that lol no way makes no sense. Ps4 pro with an ssd is nearly a ssries s.
It doesn't help that you can't just go to a store and buy a PS5 in Japan. Most stores you have to wait for a lottery, but a ticket and then hope you get called. Some stores even have necessary qualifications to get along with a lottery. Things like needing a store card with a certain amount spent at the store. Upping the price along with how difficult it is to get one without softening the blow with a free game or a year of PS Plus makes it really hard to want to buy one out here.
Simple. Don’t buy from this evil company.
You could tell that Sony stopped caring about the japanese market even before the PS5 launched over there. With the massive price increase happening its no wonder why the japanese are reacting like that.
I hope this helps Xbox sales in Japan. I know it will never be that sizable, but anything helps.
Nah, I hope microsoft stops gaming altogether
The fact that Japanese gamers were talking about Gaming PCs on twitter enough to get it trending is a massive statement about how they feel about the PS5 price increase. I do wonder how many of them will follow through, though.
I think Sony is dead this generation between this and 70 dollar games and useless remakes
Brand loyalty? WTF is this guy talking about. The Playstation brand isn't exactly a new brand. It's been around for almost 3 decades.
Instead of spending money to keep 3rd party games off of other platforms, Sony should spend that money to not have to raise the cost of their system. This is very disappointing
So no one noticed the US price hike? The only console being sold now is the Horizon FW bundle at $50 over MSRP without the physical game. You do the math
false. just bought a ps5 for $499 on PS direct website. You save $20 with the Bundle because Horizon FW is $70. no downsides bro
@@pablozapata9694 Invitation only. Retailers only have HFW versions. A digital code costs them nothing, it’s vapor, some licensing cost whatever a couple bucks to print the code. That’s the margin. $70 for digital is for chumps IMO. Got physical for under $50 retail and even that’s too much, just wanted it now.
@@AleksLazar didnt need invitation :) it was my 2nd ps5 for my brother. seems like you dont know much
@@pablozapata9694 The PS store is invitation only by email notification for a chance to buy a PS5 console. They won’t ship more than one per account/address. That’s if they have availability, which I haven’t seen recently. Only the HFW editions at retailers.
It's nice that sony is helping Xboxes sell more in Japan
Or they will just buy a switch or nothing at all
@@cheeppacees88888 Nobody in their right mind buys a Switch, a "console" less powerful than a smartphone lol.
@@VonDutchNL 111.08 million people did
it's the 5th best selling console in history
@@VonDutchNL
Straight up delusional, the switch is selling amazingly, one of the best selling consoles ever made. Meanwhile even xbox's 360 couldn't break into the top 8
@@cheeppacees88888 There's a reason why 5th and not even in the top 3.
Jim ryan destroying playstation. Going full pc, live service, price increases of games and system. Its crazy but If something wont change well, this is the end of playstation.
Long run for sure it will hurt. I still think people who want a PS5 now will dish out the money to get one. But with the additional costs of controllers, games and now the console, for those who are on the fence or don’t have a preference in the future, Xbox is looking much better as a deal with the Series S and game pass in terms of costs and the Nintendo Switch is in its prime still so only thing Keeping people to PlayStation will be those big titles.
How will it hurt if PS5 slim is going to exist?
@@beta3522 $300 Series s Vs a $400 PlayStation 5 slim with now a 20% inflation in those countries. With now a bigger gap in price and the Xbox Series X fitting comfortably in between the PlayStation 5 and Slim inflated prices, it just makes the Xbox look like a better deal for consumers who care more about the price and package than what console they side with. Nintendos most expensive console the Oled model is instead of a $50 disparity between the slim will now be greater with inflated prices, which again consumers who care about a good deal are now more likely not to spend the little extra for the PlayStation since the price is more now. In the long run it even with the Slim model will hurt them regardless, just depends how much.
@@zhobz8583 PS5 digital is not the slim version. Alright knowing that you have no idea what a Playstation slim is, I don't think you deserve anyone's attention. The $400 PS5 is not a slim version, it's just a digital version of the standard console.
@@beta3522 Apologies for assuming you meant the digital version when using the term slim, because as of now a PS5 Slim doesn’t exist, so it’s easy for someone to someone to jump to such a conclusion. Yes of course I know what a Slim model for Playstation is from their previous models, I even I have a PS2 Slim in my room. While technically the digital version isn’t an official slim model, it is slimmer, and with no official PS5 slim model yet, it’s easy for anyone to misconstrued your short question.
Are you trying to propose a specific topic of the effects of the next PlayStation slim model in this argument? If so, that’s a fair question, though this generation falling behind in getting them in peoples hands due to shortages and everything going on in the world economy we aren’t going to get it anytime soon like we previously have after a release of a PlayStation. I still this will still hurt them until parts can become cheaper and that new model comes, which is going to be a while.
Jim Ryan is Sony's very own Don Mattrick.
Xbox might seriously overtake Playstation in Japan… what a timeline
That’s laughable if you actually believe that
The only way they can justify it is if they bundle the Dualsense Edge with the consoles to make up for the price hike. But let’s face it, that’s not gonna happen
I'd say it will hurt the PS5 sales. The Japanese people are very prideful when it comes to their country. A price hike there and not the USA really shows that Sony isn't as interested in the Japanese market anymore, which they are a Japanense company at the end of the day. I could definitely see more console gamers going to PC, or even going to Xbox now.
They will go to Switch or modile before going to PC or even Xbox. It wasn’t exactly like Sony was doing well in Japan because it’s tracking like the Wii U with worst software sales. To point, Nintendo took the Top 30 again this week.
Sony Corp must be desperate because they are squeezing every penny from their Playstation division.
I think it will be fine. Nintendo pretty much owns Japan. Seems like Sony is happy to sell what they can at the price their comfortable with. I think it will sell less than PS4 for sure.
Translation: I’m fine with taking it in the ass with no lube.
I just checked and 1 dollar is about 137 japanese yen which is even worse than the Nepalese Rupee at 127. I think the japanese yen not too long ago was about as good as an indian rupee which in itself is usually slightly better than the Nepalese rupee. So yeah, that is pretty bad.
I haven't played my ps4 much since I got my switch three years ago. I think at this point im just gonna skip the ps5. Also gonna skip FF16 because I'm a fan of the older games.
I bought two PS4 consoles last early last year and have hardly used them as I'm playing more on my Xbox One. In fact I've actually considered trading in my PS4 for an Xbox Series S.
Back in my day McDoubles we’re a dollar!
I plan on trying to build my first pc next year and might skip PS5 altogether. I might get a XSX eventually so I can use Game Pass for console and to use the backwards compatibility and put my OG Xbox, 360, and X1X in the closet and only pull them out for the games that aren't backwards compatible.
Got a Switch OLED and really enjoying it. Haven't hooked it up to the TV yet but enjoying it in portable mode.
and with steam deck getting stronger, PS5 isn't an option anymore
From Yen 60478 to Euro’s
the price is: 502,94 euro’s
so…im curious….in retail
Here’s the deal : Sony has decided The rest of the world is paying for the PS5 to remain at the same price in the US.
Am I going crazy or do I hear a humming noise in the audio ?!?!
I don't hear it on my mobile just on my surround sound from the subwoofer
I've had this theory for a while, I think Sony is trying to position themselves as the 'Apple' of gaming. Their games, consoles and other products are all more expensive than their competitors but they offer a guarantee of high quality that a lot of people are willing to pay for. I think they want PlayStation to be seen as the 'premium' gaming company
Lol. Okay. Microsoft is closer to being apple than Sony. Sony is more like Samsung or lg
@@martinflores7354 alright, chill. Like I said it's just a theory. I'm not saying I believe that they are the premium brand, I'm just saying I think that's what they want to be. It's ok to disagree with me ✌️
Current conversion rates means *after* the price increase it’s ~$440, and was before ~$360. Bigass price hike sure, but both of those are a pretty good deal
I can vouched for Horizon PS5 on PSDirect, for whatever reason it mostly available their. I think it's the right time for Microsoft to capitalize on this situation to convice Japanese consumers to get an XBox, specially the series S, all it need to have more Japanese games being ported. The problem right now with Japanese games are they also released it to either the Switch of PlayUStation consoles, that need to break and Soul Hacker 2 is a start. Right now, if you enjoy mostly playing Japanese Anime Waifu games, you either get it for the Switch, but if you want that high performance experience, you have to get a PlayUStation 5 or a high end PC. At this point, Phil Spencer needs to convince Japanese company to port their game on the XBox ecosystem.
Also, Jim Ryan is "A Bad Man, A Very Very Bad Man!".
I didn't realize Japan got it so cheap. I know the yen is weaker than USD but its $441 now with the price hikes. Doesn't offset the lower wages in comparison I suppose but you never think about how big the exchange rate difference is.
Playstations are selling less and less in Japan. Ironic since Playstation is Japanese. The United States became the major market for Playstation, so, Sony is becoming more western, more American.
@Gir Biscuits Don't waste your money on things you'll never actually own.
Playstation is American I believe, just not Sony at large.
PlayStation is now US. Their HQ was moved to California and the old HQ just became a studio than got shrunken down, Sony Group is still Japanese, just not the PlayStation branch
@@cheeppacees88888 Your saying that but I bet you are subscribed to some tv services like Netflix and Hulu 😂😂😂
@@zacharygodfrey874 nope, I buy discs dude lol
60500 Japanese Yen converts to 439.77 United States Dollars... this is clickbait drama lol. They're still paying $60 less than we are with the price hike.
The amazing chad move by japan would be for japanese developers to boycott sony. It would finally allow xbox a chance to give some competition in that region seeing as how nintendo doesn't react to anyone.
You are deluded if you think Xbox has a chance. The developers will just move and focus on Nintendo systems.
@@benking9128 Not powerful enough. You are deluded if you think something as weak as a smart phone is an equal alternative.
My reasoning is that them going to a platform no one cares for in that region is exactly why it would be such a powerful act of protest.
@@Hadeks_Marow but there isn’t much of a reason for the developers to boycott PlayStation. It’s money at the end of the day, they don’t have that same concern as the consumer. They’ll carry on putting games on there regardless or move to Nintendo where it’s got a huge install base. Xsx/s is already 10x smaller than ps5 install base so it makes no sense for them to jump to that. Especially when there are big exclusives like ff7 and ff16 coming. Alongside PlayStation’s marketing for sf6 and re4 remake. Xbox has old persona ports and wu long for marketing. That’s isn’t going to do much for them over there.
@@benking9128 Lack of reason is why I labeled it as a "chad move" not a "business move".
Yes GameStop has the PS5 bundle and the one I go to has had an Xbox series x in the case for a couple of weeks and the employee informed me they have more in the back because the company keeps sending them every week.
People will pay $1000 for a phone , then complain about $550 for a console that's loaded with technology. I think the Xbox Series X and the PS5 were way underpriced from the beginning.
Agreed 1000 for a phone because it's a social/camera improved lifestyle device to many people (even if a pocket computer) but judge a console. Sure consoles are luxury items we don't need but 1000 for a phone is a lot. Phones are 'required in some cases of importance besides what you access in a web browser than an app' but for $300 it's fine with a different phone brand besides the phone plan.
because everyone I know gets a contract and pays it monthly. who pays for a phone outright nowadays lol? especially when they cost so much...
I agree with you on that especially with the new iPhones and a cost over $1000
"Sony just got sued for six billion dollars and ya'll going to be the one paying for it!" Mighty Keef
I’m an Xbox guy but I in no way want Sony to fail. They are doing what they have to do along with many other companies. This is a time of uncharted uncanniness. I don’t believe that’s a word. Good day!
I don't want sony to fail it pushes Nintendo & Microsoft to do better
Sony *NEEDS* to fail this gen, so that the company itself can evolve with better business strategies, and lean more into pro consumer support than anti consumer. Microsoft learned, and is still learning to be better. Nintendo, well, they just dont give a shit.😅
What's interesting is that recently following the price hike, the Xbox/Series S,X are trending on Japanese Twitter and my timeline had alot of Japanese people buying the Series S and X. And from what I saw and read, they seem to really like the Series S. Probably due to it's size and performance since many Japanese live in tight flats so space matter.
I think Microsoft might take this to their advantage and start to boost their market in Japan (Which used to be known to be weak)
Holy sh!t man... I mean, almost ¥10,000 es almost a 100 usd increase on it's price point. But in the tweet from Famitsu, they say it's a ¥5500 increase. So... There's a little mistake there...
Only in current year does a console get more expensive the longer it’s on store shelves