What!? That makes zero sense. This regime is insanely different than any since 85’. We finally have been on the right track in many other ways that historically we suffer at. we have a ton of pics, we recently just pulled off. What’s gonna go down as one of the most lopsided trades in NFL history, we drafted the greatest quarterback prospect in our history, we have a real Team President and an elite GM in my opinion. But around the league Ryan Poles is highly regarded as an up coming young & talented GM. Kevin Warren is a massive upgrade over Ted Phillips. And Warren has more control and influence than the McCaskys have typically given a the President in the past. They aren’t like Jerry Jones and Woody Johnson type owners. pause bruh pause. We need a real HC who’s offensive minded (Ben Johnson hopefully) & Caleb will develop. Invest in the oline. Bam
One pro bowler and it’s not even his guy!! He was drafted by Pace!! Poles is a train wreck when it comes to understanding the teams needs and identifying talent. Let this Bozo go or face certain disappointment.
Poles has been less than average - he has made some horrific decisions. I disliked Pace, but his tenure is looking better than Poles right now. Let Montgomery go…..to Detroit. Let Daniels go to Pittsburgh. Trade Roquan to Baltimore…..to turn around and pay Edmunds….. sign Nate Davis….. draft Velus Jones in the 3rd round…..draft a punter in the 4th….. Poles has failed way more than he has hit, and it’s not close. Draft, FA, coaching. He’s either a) not ready to be a GM or b) he’ll never be a GM
@@Paleo-Geo-Sports2454 Agreed, but as long as Kevin Warren supports Poles as the GM, we fans may have to settle for yet the next version of Marc Trestman/Matt Eberflus, while other organizations who care about winning (and not the front office power structure) make smart hiring decisions and flourish. I hope I'm wrong.
The fact that Chicago media is already saying Caleb was the wrong choice is fucking ridiculous. I was a fields guy and still am (my favorite nfl player) but ultimately I understood that Caleb was the better thrower off the rip. Caleb has had so much to overcome due to mismanagement. Daniels is nice but to say Caleb is a bust or the wrong choice is an idiotic take. Pathetic take.
As a Commanders fan I agree with you 100%. Caleb was not set up for success. The Commanders rank 4th in Rushing Attempts (Eagles, Ravens, Steelers and Lions round out the top 5 all playoff Teams) while the Bears rank 22nd that alone speaks volumes about the Bears structural failures.
@@daoldballcoach7472 Credit to you guys. You have done well so far with his development. Daniels is a good NFL QB and I'm glad you guys finally have a franchise player. The Bears mismanagement is disheartening and I am so low on the current regime. We have not put the right coaches in position to develop our guys. I hope we get Ben Johnson but I also love Vrabel and think Vrabel might be the better choice right now. I'm glad someone from the outside can understand that Caleb isn't a bust. I'm tired of that narrative. He has made horrible rookie mistakes but he is a rookie so I'm not too worried. He has brought his team in winning positions multiple times only to have his team let him down most of the time.
Agreed … I like Fields too, but understand why the Bears moved-on. Caleb has shown flashes of elite play. He has things to clean-up, but he’s no “bust”
No impact players have been drafted or via free agency. J J was previously drafted before Poles. Poles must go if a new Coach wants to reboot the roster and has no faith in him.
I would say that the Bears need to move on from The McCaskeys. This losing streak has been going on with multiple players, coaches, and executives. The McCaskeys don’t accept responsibility. George blames everyone else and whines that Mommy is pissed off.
The Lions didn’t move on from the Ford family. They oversaw the 0-16 team and still own the Lions today. McCaskey hired Warren to steer the ship. Warren needs to prove he’s the man
Not even a question - the McCaskeys have NO business owning anything, let alone a professional football team. I wouldn’t trust them to own a goldfish. They are a shameful joke. They have no idea what they are doing, and yet we, Bears fans, keep supporting them. I wouldn’t trust George to change a bed pan. He’s been nothing but horrific since “taking over”. Sell. The. Team. I am sure the new owners will give the McCaskeys a lifetime suite, pay tribute, and let you throw out the football equivalent of a first pitch, but for all Chicago fans, PLEASE sell the team.
Unfortunately the fans are stuck with the reality is the Bears can't move on from the McCaskey's. Only they can move on from the Bears into our dismay that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.
They were rebuilding at the time with a rookie Qb who was struggling and he has the Minn D playing really well. Plus he's tough and has been an assistant in New England for a while. The only reason he didn't stay in Miami is because the owner was wanting to lose and he wouldn't allow it.
The owners in Miami wanted to lose and Flores wanted none of that. He’s tough and I like that. However, if he burns people out around him, then that is a problem
@@lucrative6477 What legal problems?...u act like he been charged with a crime...suing the NFL is not a crime and racism ..only why people are racist 😢
You're absolutely correct we've seen this show over and over the coach that gets hired this season and if they keep poles they'll probably both get fired next year
JD5 is the man, and they wouldn't talk to him. Harbaugh wins every where he goes, and they wouldn't even talk to him. This organization is so ridiculous.
Ben Johnson can see Poles is incompetent and does not trust him to make good roster decisions. Johnson is not making a crazy demand. He simply doesn't want to ruin his coaching career in Chicago. The best head coaches (Belichick, Harbaugh, Carroll) demand full control of their roster and preferred GM to work with. I'm sure Johnson saw how Ryan Pace undermined coach John Fox by secretly drafting Mitchell Trubisky (behind Fox's back) instead. Fox wanted DeShaun Watson. Pace's poor decision set Fox up to fail with a "Ford Pinto" QB. Eli Manning demanded the right to waive the team which drafted him in the NFL draft, to avoid being sent to a dysfunctional team (Eli must have been worried Chicago would draft him) that would not set Manning up to succeed. Eli's father Archie (former Saints QB) did not want a poorly managed team to ruin his son's NFL career. Caleb's father was dumb not to do the same for his son because I'm sure Caleb regrets being drafted by Chicago. 😂
@@ericdavis1380 or he didn’t expect the culture to be corrupted. He likely didn’t go from a offensive threat to a “problem” until the team exposed its toxicity.
I agree. It’s so typical of the Chicago Sports Media to hone in on an individual with some form of negativity until that player is no longer on the team.
I dont think the Johnson thing is that he expects teams to roll out the red carpet for him. I think it’s that he’s not leaving Detroit for a situation that he doesn’t feel is perfect so if you want him the situation has to be good
How could anyone in their right mind think Poles is a keeper. My God the coaching fiasco alone is enough to get him fired. Wouldn't pay Roquan, Montgomery, Mooney, paid Edmunds 72 million whata joke, paid Sweat 100 million 4 sacks this year, Claypool, and Valus. UNBELIEVABLE!!
I disagree about next year being a bust for the Bears. I think that the right coaching staff and some o-line depth will give the Bears a winning season. Maybe not playoffs and certainly not Super Bowl contenders, but they should at least be 9-8. Possibly be a bit too optimistic, but that's what I'm going with.
This is a Brian Daboll hire. Remember how Bears fans was about Daboll not being hired. Ben Johnson wants 14mil per ownership isn't going. Pete Carroll wants 7-8mil? Gruden will come for 4-5mil? Those a SuperBowl winning coaches why would we pay double or triple for Ben Johnson?!?!? 🤷💯
Crazy how "poles did such a great job rebuilding this roster" in the preseason to "we need to move on from ryan poles" in a matter of months. Also caleb has the worst stats of all recent qbs. Even worse than zach wilson and its not close. The o line isnt great obviously but because he holds the ball like hes still in college it makes the line look much worse than it actually is. You want to talk about caleb showing flashes. What happened to "flashes get you fired"? This show is entertaining for sure at times but the way the opinions flip flop so drastically makes you wonder if they are just pushing narratives over giving honest takes
Hiring Pete Carrol would be on brand for the Bears. A 73 year old defensive minded coach past his prime and desperate to prove something. Beware the candidate who WANTS the job. That way leads to madness.
Cornerback is almost always going to be on name recognition, because a lot of teams just won't throw at them and they won't get a lot of opportunities to shine. He's still good and impacts the game, and the opposition's game-planning.
What about the Washington Commanders !!! Did they not turn it around in a Year ???!!! Washington was last in the Playoffs in 2012 !!! ... The Point is YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT GM !!! (Man, it's Not "Rocket Science' !!! SMFH)
Poles did some good things since he’s been here. On the other hand, some of the misses & some of the draft picks/free agents are subpar to say the least. The production that other teams are getting from 3rd, 4th, 5th rd picks compared to Poles’ picks are fire-able offenses.
This team can EASILY turn this thing around. The offensive line held the entire team back. Nobody even blocked with fundamentals. Get a new OL coach and a few guys on the OL and it’s a totally different team. The offense never even got going and Caleb still put up the best season as a Bears QB.
There are a lot of Poles glazers in these comments. This dude is not “the guy.” Who has this dude drafted, signed or bought low on that has panned out? This dude was so quick to dismiss the history of this franchise and declare that he changed it. Guess what, he’s like every other GM in the past 10-12 years. If they extend this dude we will be part of another decade of ineptitude. The clown show never ends in Halas Hall.
Here’s the question that has been on my mind since all this conversation started up about Poles… If the Bears let him go, where would he honestly find another job as GM in the NFL? And if the answer is as obvious a nowhere as it is to me, why the hell are we keeping him?
She’s miffed?? Well… this is why the Bears are who they are?? Here’s a question… WTF has Ryan Poles done?? Goddammit this woman is just as ignorant as that front office!!
@@Bigbubba-fafo Any random GM would do. You can't do any worse than Poles. I would say get a great coaching mind and let him have say in personnel if he wants. When is the last time the Bears had a coach who was allowed to have a say in personnel? Any random coach could evaluate talent better than Poles.
Disagree with some of the opinions here. Hood has no idea that poles will be extended. The incoming coach only needs to point to the lack of pro bowl talent to make Warren open to the idea of replacing the GM.
Year 1, Clean House. Clean up bad contracts. Year 2 , begin rebuild, fix draft, and start over. Year 3 began to show real signs of improvement. The question at hand, does Poles deserve a year 4? Is this failure in year three the fault of Poles or Ownership and the fired Head Coach???
Yeah It’s Definitely time to Move on from Ryan Poles!! Personally I’m sick and Tired of Hearing people about Williams isn’t doing this or that He’s a Rookie Quarterback and a Great Rookie at that. Why doesn’t anyone talk about how these Pathetic Receivers can’t get open. And to all those people who want Ben Johnson to be our HC don’t know about Football 🏈? I’ve been a Bears and Cubs Fan since 1969 I don’t want our New Coach being on the Job Training Coach just because he’s a good OC sure as HELL isn’t going to mean he’s going to be a Great HC. Wake up people I’m sick and tired of 🧀 Heads talking Shit every year I want a HC who’s been a HC in the league with Experience. 😤 BJ I’d rather have Vrable Coaching our Team 🐻🔽
That is pathetic that Poles is intentionally keeping Johnson away from the Bears job just so he can keep his job. If this is true the dysfunction knows no bounds and Poles should have been gone yesterday. My guess is if this rumor is true it will take a while for something like this to materialize if it ever does. In the end Poles' merit's will keep him or release him right now I feel like he has inside of a year to turn things around.
As much as I like Poles, he's really had a bad draft overall. So much wasted 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounders that should have been core pieces have turned out into nothing. Velus Jones to name his biggest draft bust, also picking Darnell Wright over Jalen Carter was a big miss. Wright is not bad, but he's not even showing he's a top 10 type talent. Picking a punter that high in the draft. Using a 3rd rounder on Amegadjie. Tevon Jenkins was his biggest hit via the draft. Signing both LBs to those contracts, even the extention to DJ Moore is starting to look bad. The Sweat extension - maybe good, maybe bad. But losing that 2nd rounder to get him hurts. Also losing picks to trade for guys like Keenan Allen. Lastly, Odunze pick @ 9 could have been to plug holes in the o-line or d-line. IF the Bears let Poles pick the next HC, then he should be extended until the '27 season. IF they believe that he doesnt deserve that extension with his ho-hum overall results, then they need to fire him, get a new GM and let that new GM hire his HC. Of course this is the Bears, the most likely scenario will be they will let Poles hire his next HC, then the Bears doesnt win 6 games next year, they FIRE Poles after the '25 season, and have a new GM with a lame duck coach he didnt hire and a QB he didnt draft. Pathetic.
We're gonna get joe brady at best, or someone similar like bobby slowik, but even more likely, an offense coach who wasn't a play caller. with that coach, we'll show lots of potential in year one, maybe even squeak into the playoffs. there will be tons of joy and lots of hope. No one will speak of lucky plays and miracle wins. Then in year 2 and on, he'll shit the bed. Then, we'll bring in a defensive coach who isn't a household name but has a good football mind combined with a hopeful spirit that will try to restore a good work ethic and smart play but won't quite have the acumen for running a team. We'll couple him with a young gm who knows how to evaluate talent and has proven his worth by being a part of a winning culture. They'll keep Caleb. But his warts won't go away. He'll have the same problem as the last two qbs, only difference is, instead of being a runner, he extends plays - but he'll never make the easy play, he'll struggle with reads and with accuracy. A year or two into having this new gm and head coach, we'll have a trade involving a pick in the draft and we'll get another qb who has great tools, if only he can be coached up on all the things a good coach can help with. And then repeat that all over again. Daboll and Nagy jump to mind as guys who had some Ben Johnson level credentials. Even if we get him, we'll show just how broken we are as we live that cycle over and over again. We're gonna be nagy and trestman again, and we'll get eberflus and fox to fix what was broken. And the people put into those positions will tell us how this time, it's different. but it won't be. It never is.
~ Ben Jonhson would be a "First Time" head coach (bad news) and one whose playbook the ENTIRE division would be all too familiar with (bad news) . . . ~
Please go get Jon Gruden. You got your Culture Guy. You got your Offensive Guy. You got your guy that holds everyone accountable. He would work with Poles.
What are you guys talking about? The NFL is the one league where teams DO fix year to year with the right moves. This just sounds like a room of angry people who are annoyed they have to talk about a team that isn’t good this year. This is part of the problem with this franchise, our owners stink and our media piles on them like emo kids angry at their parents. I’m just as done with the media voices as the owners etc. Be better while you bash others as well.
The NFL is one of the only leagues, which has one of th few, if not only, that WANTS its teams to be competitive unlike MLB that wants either the New York or Southern California teams to make it or NBA which is concerned about whichever star is highlighted. They believe in the saying “a rising tide lifts all boats” and bends over backwards with the way the draft and free agency and salary cap is structured to ensure everyone is a player or two away from contention. A front office has to have a special kind incompetence to fail in this league.
I will say this. Mitch trubisky had 1 pro bowl also. Look how that turned out. I’m not saying Daniels career is gonna be like Mitch, but I’ve been seeing bears fans and other fans saying that we picked the wrong QB again. Pump the brakes, Daniels had kingsbury this year, Caleb had Waldron for 9 games and Thomas brown for the rest…..
Talk about negativity!!! Poles has NOT done that bad of a job!! It’s not all on Poles that there were so many injuries, or that the coaches were soft. Poles biggest mistake was trusting Eberflus! I had been screaming for him to be fired for over a year!! Teams turn things around every year, and it’s mostly about coaching. Look at the Chargers, Broncos, Texans, and Commanders. Cronin saying you can’t change culture in a year?? The right guy changes the culture when he walks in the room!!!!
Two 10+ game losing streaks and zero drafted pro-bowlers in 3 years as GM. If they lose Ben Johnson because of this idiot, and then turn around to hire Brian Flores, that'll be about it for me as a viewer until there's a change in ownership. I'm not going to watch them ruin another quarterback through organizational malpractice.
Ben Johnson almost lost the first lions games by getting cute in the 2nd half and not running the ball. His offense is full of high draft picks, especially the line. He's not a sure thing as a coach. The bears need someone to change the whole culture.
I don't think I can trust this organization to make intelligent football decisions anymore. While the McCaskeys own the team, the priority will be to put butts in the seats at Soldier Field and to get a stadium deal to increase the value of the team for the day when Virginia's kids have no choice but to sell. If the stars align and a competitive team just happens to magically appear every six or seven seasons, that would be a fluke/bonus. Things would correct themselves within a season, and then a season later, we're back to asking how the front office can screw up the next hire, and set the franchise back for another five years.
Chemical how Chicago mainstream sports media praised polls for the trade for picking up the bust Caleb, and now we’re calling for his head. The fact of the matter of this whole situation is because of Warren go back to hard knocks. Why do we see him popping up everywhere with player decisions? I think a lot of this stuff was forced. Why was Caleb named the starter before camp even opened because Tyson would’ve beat him out and they knew it and a talent level yeah Caleb is way better but as a football player, Tyson is a better football player. He understands the game more. He’s played the game more And Caleb could’ve sat behind him this year and that off the line. It looks so bad just like last year when he stepped in for fields, all of a sudden the offensive line looked good. Why because he knows how to get rid of the ball Tyson had one horrific game through five pics and throw all my perks give me a break Not saying Tyson is or isn’t the future I believe he can start in this league but he definitely could’ve played better than Caleb did this year yeah but the Chicago sports media just wants to cover their asses because they praised William so bad so now they’re gonna blame polls when they praise them last yearwe need guys like Mike North back on the scene who love Chicago sports teams, not wanna whine and bitch
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That one pro bowler isn't even Poles' pick. Jaylon Johnson was drafted by the other Ryan...Pace.
You can't trust Bears management at this point. No matter what fans want or think they want they are going to screw this up.
💯💯💯
They think they are too good for Harbaugh, Belichick and now Johnson.
What!? That makes zero sense. This regime is insanely different than any since 85’. We finally have been on the right track in many other ways that historically we suffer at. we have a ton of pics, we recently just pulled off. What’s gonna go down as one of the most lopsided trades in NFL history, we drafted the greatest quarterback prospect in our history, we have a real Team President and an elite GM in my opinion. But around the league Ryan Poles is highly regarded as an up coming young & talented GM. Kevin Warren is a massive upgrade over Ted Phillips. And Warren has more control and influence than the McCaskys have typically given a the President in the past. They aren’t like Jerry Jones and Woody Johnson type owners. pause bruh pause. We need a real HC who’s offensive minded (Ben Johnson hopefully) & Caleb will develop. Invest in the oline. Bam
Why should they care what all the coach potato wannabe general managers want
They always have and will again !!
Pace drafted JJ NOT Poles.
Yep
This...
and who else did pace draft? lol
Cole kmet
Exactly makes that even worse lol
One pro bowler and it’s not even his guy!! He was drafted by Pace!! Poles is a train wreck when it comes to understanding the teams needs and identifying talent. Let this Bozo go or face certain disappointment.
Poles has been less than average - he has made some horrific decisions.
I disliked Pace, but his tenure is looking better than Poles right now.
Let Montgomery go…..to Detroit. Let Daniels go to Pittsburgh. Trade Roquan to Baltimore…..to turn around and pay Edmunds….. sign Nate Davis….. draft Velus Jones in the 3rd round…..draft a punter in the 4th…..
Poles has failed way more than he has hit, and it’s not close. Draft, FA, coaching. He’s either a) not ready to be a GM or b) he’ll never be a GM
@ can’t argue with any of your points!
Fire Poles!!!!!!
Cut Caleb 😊
Poles is afraid Ben Johnson will take his GM job.
I hope he does
Ben Johnson knows Poles is shit, that's why
I personally think he should. I actually support the head coach having more roster control. Because whatever the Bears are doing, it ain't working
@@Paleo-Geo-Sports2454 Agreed, but as long as Kevin Warren supports Poles as the GM, we fans may have to settle for yet the next version of Marc Trestman/Matt Eberflus, while other organizations who care about winning (and not the front office power structure) make smart hiring decisions and flourish.
I hope I'm wrong.
Ben Johnson has proven a lot more than Ryan Poles.
The fact that Chicago media is already saying Caleb was the wrong choice is fucking ridiculous. I was a fields guy and still am (my favorite nfl player) but ultimately I understood that Caleb was the better thrower off the rip. Caleb has had so much to overcome due to mismanagement. Daniels is nice but to say Caleb is a bust or the wrong choice is an idiotic take. Pathetic take.
As a Commanders fan I agree with you 100%. Caleb was not set up for success. The Commanders rank 4th in Rushing Attempts (Eagles, Ravens, Steelers and Lions round out the top 5 all playoff Teams) while the Bears rank 22nd that alone speaks volumes about the Bears structural failures.
@@daoldballcoach7472 Credit to you guys. You have done well so far with his development. Daniels is a good NFL QB and I'm glad you guys finally have a franchise player. The Bears mismanagement is disheartening and I am so low on the current regime. We have not put the right coaches in position to develop our guys. I hope we get Ben Johnson but I also love Vrabel and think Vrabel might be the better choice right now. I'm glad someone from the outside can understand that Caleb isn't a bust. I'm tired of that narrative. He has made horrible rookie mistakes but he is a rookie so I'm not too worried. He has brought his team in winning positions multiple times only to have his team let him down most of the time.
JF! is not a starting NFL QB. That is on Pace. Caleb is a starting NFL QB.
Agreed … I like Fields too, but understand why the Bears moved-on.
Caleb has shown flashes of elite play. He has things to clean-up, but he’s no “bust”
Daniels is better, we picked the wrong guy, Caleb is a college QB
No impact players have been drafted or via free agency. J J was previously drafted before Poles.
Poles must go if a new Coach wants to reboot the roster and has no faith in him.
Happy new years guys! This is obvious. Warren, Poles et. All need to go!
I would say that the Bears need to move on from The McCaskeys. This losing streak has been going on with multiple players, coaches, and executives. The McCaskeys don’t accept responsibility. George blames everyone else and whines that Mommy is pissed off.
The Lions didn’t move on from the Ford family. They oversaw the 0-16 team and still own the Lions today. McCaskey hired Warren to steer the ship. Warren needs to prove he’s the man
Not even a question - the McCaskeys have NO business owning anything, let alone a professional football team. I wouldn’t trust them to own a goldfish.
They are a shameful joke. They have no idea what they are doing, and yet we, Bears fans, keep supporting them.
I wouldn’t trust George to change a bed pan. He’s been nothing but horrific since “taking over”.
Sell. The. Team.
I am sure the new owners will give the McCaskeys a lifetime suite, pay tribute, and let you throw out the football equivalent of a first pitch, but for all Chicago fans, PLEASE sell the team.
Unfortunately the fans are stuck with the reality is the Bears can't move on from the McCaskey's. Only they can move on from the Bears into our dismay that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.
I don't understand the love Flores. He went 24-25 in Miami and everything that came out was he wasn't liked...
I don't get it either
They were rebuilding at the time with a rookie Qb who was struggling and he has the Minn D playing really well. Plus he's tough and has been an assistant in New England for a while. The only reason he didn't stay in Miami is because the owner was wanting to lose and he wouldn't allow it.
The owners in Miami wanted to lose and Flores wanted none of that. He’s tough and I like that. However, if he burns people out around him, then that is a problem
Not to mention the incredible baggage he brings. From cries of racism to his legal troubles.
@@lucrative6477 What legal problems?...u act like he been charged with a crime...suing the NFL is not a crime and racism
..only why people are racist 😢
You're absolutely correct we've seen this show over and over the coach that gets hired this season and if they keep poles they'll probably both get fired next year
Jim Harbaugh turned the chargers around day 1. Hire the right staff and it can happen.
How does anybody can justify extending or keeping Ryan Poles? He has to go!
JD5 is the man, and they wouldn't talk to him. Harbaugh wins every where he goes, and they wouldn't even talk to him. This organization is so ridiculous.
Ben Johnson can see Poles is incompetent and does not trust him to make good roster decisions. Johnson is not making a crazy demand. He simply doesn't want to ruin his coaching career in Chicago. The best head coaches (Belichick, Harbaugh, Carroll) demand full control of their roster and preferred GM to work with. I'm sure Johnson saw how Ryan Pace undermined coach John Fox by secretly drafting Mitchell Trubisky (behind Fox's back) instead. Fox wanted DeShaun Watson. Pace's poor decision set Fox up to fail with a "Ford Pinto" QB.
Eli Manning demanded the right to waive the team which drafted him in the NFL draft, to avoid being sent to a dysfunctional team (Eli must have been worried Chicago would draft him) that would not set Manning up to succeed. Eli's father Archie (former Saints QB) did not want a poorly managed team to ruin his son's NFL career. Caleb's father was dumb not to do the same for his son because I'm sure Caleb regrets being drafted by Chicago. 😂
The hate on DJ is on par with Chicago media. Blame any and everyone for the team’s failure. 😢
He deserves it!...get a new contract and end up the biggest problem displaying selfishness in the face of life changing money 😢
@@ericdavis1380 or he didn’t expect the culture to be corrupted. He likely didn’t go from a offensive threat to a “problem” until the team exposed its toxicity.
I agree. It’s so typical of the Chicago Sports Media to hone in on an individual with some form of negativity until that player is no longer on the team.
@@Loski-g3cso you still be a professional, what DJ is doing is not professional and what a baby would do
How about we get the right freaking head coach!!!!!!🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻🐻
Fire poles but Daniel in Chicago wouldn't have been better than williams
I dont think the Johnson thing is that he expects teams to roll out the red carpet for him. I think it’s that he’s not leaving Detroit for a situation that he doesn’t feel is perfect so if you want him the situation has to be good
Great corners don’t get targeted
How could anyone in their right mind think Poles is a keeper. My God the coaching fiasco alone is enough to get him fired. Wouldn't pay Roquan, Montgomery, Mooney, paid Edmunds 72 million whata joke, paid Sweat 100 million 4 sacks this year, Claypool, and Valus. UNBELIEVABLE!!
I disagree about next year being a bust for the Bears. I think that the right coaching staff and some o-line depth will give the Bears a winning season. Maybe not playoffs and certainly not Super Bowl contenders, but they should at least be 9-8. Possibly be a bit too optimistic, but that's what I'm going with.
The bears will mess this up!!!
This is a Brian Daboll hire. Remember how Bears fans was about Daboll not being hired. Ben Johnson wants 14mil per ownership isn't going. Pete Carroll wants 7-8mil? Gruden will come for 4-5mil? Those a SuperBowl winning coaches why would we pay double or triple for Ben Johnson?!?!? 🤷💯
Gruden
Everyone is talking culture. Every team has culture. It’s determined by the players. Not the coach.
Crazy how "poles did such a great job rebuilding this roster" in the preseason to "we need to move on from ryan poles" in a matter of months. Also caleb has the worst stats of all recent qbs. Even worse than zach wilson and its not close. The o line isnt great obviously but because he holds the ball like hes still in college it makes the line look much worse than it actually is. You want to talk about caleb showing flashes. What happened to "flashes get you fired"? This show is entertaining for sure at times but the way the opinions flip flop so drastically makes you wonder if they are just pushing narratives over giving honest takes
You have to lie about Caleb’s stats to make a point. Sad
An honest take is Caleb has the worst offensive line in the league thanks to his GM
Have you looked at Zack Wilson's rookie stats? Not even comparable to Caleb's.
Fire Poles and Warren
Why Warren?
@TheWhyson27are you blind? He is a bust.
Hiring Pete Carrol would be on brand for the Bears. A 73 year old defensive minded coach past his prime and desperate to prove something. Beware the candidate who WANTS the job. That way leads to madness.
Overpaying for someone past their prime is the Chicago sports way
My brother called me the other day all excited talking about Pete Carroll wants to coach here. I replied to him hell naw! We don't want him
Jaylon got the probowl nod for what?
Name recognition
Heaven forbid we have one player perform and bears fans can’t see it typical 😂
Because they needed at least one player from every team to represent their franchise. Only reason
Uh 11-5 and an outstanding rookie season. Nothing to crazy
Jayden Daniels had far better coaching that Caleb Williams. I still say that if the Bears would have drafted Mahomes, Mahomes would have been a bust.
Good point
Exactly lol
If they keep Poles, no coach worth anything is coming here. We are going to get some coordinator we've never heard of or God for bid a college coach.
Cornerback is almost always going to be on name recognition, because a lot of teams just won't throw at them and they won't get a lot of opportunities to shine. He's still good and impacts the game, and the opposition's game-planning.
What about the Washington Commanders !!! Did they not turn it around in a Year ???!!! Washington was last in the Playoffs in 2012 !!! ... The Point is YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT GM !!! (Man, it's Not "Rocket Science' !!! SMFH)
Washington won their division 2015 & 2020 seasons, but I do understand what you are saying. A real GM & coaching staff could turn it around
Fire poles !!!!
Poles did some good things since he’s been here. On the other hand, some of the misses & some of the draft picks/free agents are subpar to say the least. The production that other teams are getting from 3rd, 4th, 5th rd picks compared to Poles’ picks are fire-able offenses.
Great comment : “Zack Levine in cleats “
Lol
This team can EASILY turn this thing around. The offensive line held the entire team back. Nobody even blocked with fundamentals. Get a new OL coach and a few guys on the OL and it’s a totally different team. The offense never even got going and Caleb still put up the best season as a Bears QB.
Biggest problem in Chicago is that Seth Jones contract by a MILE
There are a lot of Poles glazers in these comments. This dude is not “the guy.” Who has this dude drafted, signed or bought low on that has panned out? This dude was so quick to dismiss the history of this franchise and declare that he changed it. Guess what, he’s like every other GM in the past 10-12 years. If they extend this dude we will be part of another decade of ineptitude. The clown show never ends in Halas Hall.
Here’s the question that has been on my mind since all this conversation started up about Poles…
If the Bears let him go, where would he honestly find another job as GM in the NFL? And if the answer is as obvious a nowhere as it is to me, why the hell are we keeping him?
She’s miffed?? Well… this is why the Bears are who they are?? Here’s a question… WTF has Ryan Poles done?? Goddammit this woman is just as ignorant as that front office!!
Who should be the GM then ? Knowing the mccaskey's they'll just pick somebody that's even worse
@@Bigbubba-fafo Any random GM would do. You can't do any worse than Poles. I would say get a great coaching mind and let him have say in personnel if he wants. When is the last time the Bears had a coach who was allowed to have a say in personnel? Any random coach could evaluate talent better than Poles.
Disagree with some of the opinions here. Hood has no idea that poles will be extended. The incoming coach only needs to point to the lack of pro bowl talent to make Warren open to the idea of replacing the GM.
Pro bowl is horrible metric. Roquan should’ve been a pro bowler every year in Chicago and did get it because it is Chicago.
Ben Johnson will be a Rookie HC.
How about Jerry Krause & Phil jackson
Im so tired of hearing Ben Johnson. For goodness sakes he got a QB that was in Superbowl 2 years before his arrival
Year 1, Clean House. Clean up bad contracts. Year 2 , begin rebuild, fix draft, and start over. Year 3 began to show real signs of improvement. The question at hand, does Poles deserve a year 4? Is this failure in year three the fault of Poles or Ownership and the fired Head Coach???
Improvement? Where?
@@lucrative6477do you know how to read?
I'd rather have Pace get a 3rd chance at HC than Poles a 2nd chance. I didn't used to believe that, and it's sad.
Agree. The Atlanta coach at least seems competent and Matt Nagy is better than Flus as bad as Nagy was.
Yeah It’s Definitely time to Move on from Ryan Poles!! Personally I’m sick and Tired of Hearing people about Williams isn’t doing this or that
He’s a Rookie Quarterback and a Great Rookie at that. Why doesn’t anyone talk about how these Pathetic Receivers can’t get open.
And to all those people who want Ben Johnson to be our HC don’t know about Football 🏈? I’ve been a Bears and Cubs Fan since 1969 I don’t want our New Coach being on the Job Training Coach just because he’s a good OC sure as HELL isn’t going to mean he’s going to be a Great HC. Wake up people I’m sick and tired of 🧀 Heads talking Shit every year I want a HC who’s been a HC in the league with Experience. 😤 BJ I’d rather have Vrable Coaching our Team 🐻🔽
JUST DON'T HIRE FLORES!! He takes zero accountability, and that's what we need, for starters.
Courtney is the Ryan Poles of ESPN 1000. Bad take after bad take.
Drop Pace and replace him with Ray Agnew and try to get Ben Johnson
Thank you J Hood and Peggy. Good analysis
That is pathetic that Poles is intentionally keeping Johnson away from the Bears job just so he can keep his job. If this is true the dysfunction knows no bounds and Poles should have been gone yesterday. My guess is if this rumor is true it will take a while for something like this to materialize if it ever does. In the end Poles' merit's will keep him or release him right now I feel like he has inside of a year to turn things around.
I'm still taking Caleb Williams 🐻🐻🐻🐻
All the issues you laid out… OR just get rid of him!!
Can we not hire a coach that is actively sueing the NFL? ie Gruden or Flores. You want a sh!tshow, you will get a sh!tshow.
As much as I like Poles, he's really had a bad draft overall. So much wasted 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounders that should have been core pieces have turned out into nothing. Velus Jones to name his biggest draft bust, also picking Darnell Wright over Jalen Carter was a big miss. Wright is not bad, but he's not even showing he's a top 10 type talent. Picking a punter that high in the draft. Using a 3rd rounder on Amegadjie. Tevon Jenkins was his biggest hit via the draft. Signing both LBs to those contracts, even the extention to DJ Moore is starting to look bad. The Sweat extension - maybe good, maybe bad. But losing that 2nd rounder to get him hurts. Also losing picks to trade for guys like Keenan Allen. Lastly, Odunze pick @ 9 could have been to plug holes in the o-line or d-line.
IF the Bears let Poles pick the next HC, then he should be extended until the '27 season. IF they believe that he doesnt deserve that extension with his ho-hum overall results, then they need to fire him, get a new GM and let that new GM hire his HC.
Of course this is the Bears, the most likely scenario will be they will let Poles hire his next HC, then the Bears doesnt win 6 games next year, they FIRE Poles after the '25 season, and have a new GM with a lame duck coach he didnt hire and a QB he didnt draft. Pathetic.
Let Cunningham go…Poles follows his lead in every draft
We're gonna get joe brady at best, or someone similar like bobby slowik, but even more likely, an offense coach who wasn't a play caller. with that coach, we'll show lots of potential in year one, maybe even squeak into the playoffs. there will be tons of joy and lots of hope. No one will speak of lucky plays and miracle wins.
Then in year 2 and on, he'll shit the bed.
Then, we'll bring in a defensive coach who isn't a household name but has a good football mind combined with a hopeful spirit that will try to restore a good work ethic and smart play but won't quite have the acumen for running a team. We'll couple him with a young gm who knows how to evaluate talent and has proven his worth by being a part of a winning culture.
They'll keep Caleb. But his warts won't go away. He'll have the same problem as the last two qbs, only difference is, instead of being a runner, he extends plays - but he'll never make the easy play, he'll struggle with reads and with accuracy.
A year or two into having this new gm and head coach, we'll have a trade involving a pick in the draft and we'll get another qb who has great tools, if only he can be coached up on all the things a good coach can help with.
And then repeat that all over again.
Daboll and Nagy jump to mind as guys who had some Ben Johnson level credentials. Even if we get him, we'll show just how broken we are as we live that cycle over and over again. We're gonna be nagy and trestman again, and we'll get eberflus and fox to fix what was broken.
And the people put into those positions will tell us how this time, it's different. but it won't be. It never is.
There is absolutely no reason to keep Poles , any competent ownership would have fired him already !!
~ Ben Jonhson would be a "First Time" head coach (bad news) and one whose playbook the ENTIRE division would be all too familiar with (bad news) . . . ~
The Bears will totally Bears this up....doesn't matter until ownership changes
Ryan Poles has had 3-years and he’s traded-away better players than he’s drafted.
He has to go.
Pro Bowl is just a popularity contest
Poles didn't even draft johnson. He only gets credit for extending him.
And Poles didn’t even draft him!!
He didn't even draft Johnson. That was a Pace pick
No, fire George McCaskey.
People this will get fixed until the team is sold. Bottom line the one constant are the McCaskeys!!!!!!
Please go get Jon Gruden. You got your Culture Guy. You got your Offensive Guy. You got your guy that holds everyone accountable. He would work with Poles.
FIRE 🔥 POLES
What are you guys talking about? The NFL is the one league where teams DO fix year to year with the right moves. This just sounds like a room of angry people who are annoyed they have to talk about a team that isn’t good this year. This is part of the problem with this franchise, our owners stink and our media piles on them like emo kids angry at their parents. I’m just as done with the media voices as the owners etc. Be better while you bash others as well.
The NFL is one of the only leagues, which has one of th few, if not only, that WANTS its teams to be competitive unlike MLB that wants either the New York or Southern California teams to make it or NBA which is concerned about whichever star is highlighted. They believe in the saying “a rising tide lifts all boats” and bends over backwards with the way the draft and free agency and salary cap is structured to ensure everyone is a player or two away from contention. A front office has to have a special kind incompetence to fail in this league.
Can Courtney replace Kap for good? 😂
Courtney wants to interview Thomas Brown for OC. Are you serious?
That 1 pro bowler is not his pick on top of it.
So, how many pro bowlers did Ryan Pace have in his 3rd year as a GM? Pace had whiffs too! Remember Kevin White.
I will say this. Mitch trubisky had 1 pro bowl also. Look how that turned out. I’m not saying Daniels career is gonna be like Mitch, but I’ve been seeing bears fans and other fans saying that we picked the wrong QB again. Pump the brakes, Daniels had kingsbury this year, Caleb had Waldron for 9 games and Thomas brown for the rest…..
Trubuski was a Pro Bowl alternative. Big difference
They really should it’s what’s best for business.
25-26 MORE OF THE SAME... BETTER GET USE TO IT.....
Talk about negativity!!! Poles has NOT done that bad of a job!! It’s not all on Poles that there were so many injuries, or that the coaches were soft. Poles biggest mistake was trusting Eberflus! I had been screaming for him to be fired for over a year!! Teams turn things around every year, and it’s mostly about coaching. Look at the Chargers, Broncos, Texans, and Commanders. Cronin saying you can’t change culture in a year?? The right guy changes the culture when he walks in the room!!!!
Two 10+ game losing streaks and zero drafted pro-bowlers in 3 years as GM. If they lose Ben Johnson because of this idiot, and then turn around to hire Brian Flores, that'll be about it for me as a viewer until there's a change in ownership. I'm not going to watch them ruin another quarterback through organizational malpractice.
It all starts with whose coaching these athletes…..and Tyreek will be back. The next coach under Kevin Warren will be him. Things will be different
I think it should be Vrabel
EVEN MORE OF A REASON TO GET JOHNSON HE WANTS POLES GONE WHICH HE SHOULD BE THEN JUST TO GO TO SOMEONE ELSE FOR JOB SECURITY IS SO BEARS
Poles did not draft or trade for JJ
Ben Johnson almost lost the first lions games by getting cute in the 2nd half and not running the ball. His offense is full of high draft picks, especially the line. He's not a sure thing as a coach. The bears need someone to change the whole culture.
Pro Bowl is a fan vote lol
Ryan Poles is gonna step down soon. Stay tuned...
And he didn’t pick Jalen Johnson, it was Ryan Pace that selected him. Get rid of Poles
Bears need new ownership. Until the McCasky's no longer have their greasy hands on the team. The team will be nothing
First of all, you don't draft a right tackle top 10. Right Tackles are for the 2nd round
Except the Lions drafted Sewell top ten
stevenson will be back that just crazy to think that
No All stars. Gotta be kidding 😂
Let's quit the pandering
Khalil making 5m less than Sweat this year
Wait...did he say Ozzie Smith was an all-star because of back flips? I'm hearing that wrong. WTF
I don't think I can trust this organization to make intelligent football decisions anymore. While the McCaskeys own the team, the priority will be to put butts in the seats at Soldier Field and to get a stadium deal to increase the value of the team for the day when Virginia's kids have no choice but to sell. If the stars align and a competitive team just happens to magically appear every six or seven seasons, that would be a fluke/bonus. Things would correct themselves within a season, and then a season later, we're back to asking how the front office can screw up the next hire, and set the franchise back for another five years.
Chemical how Chicago mainstream sports media praised polls for the trade for picking up the bust Caleb, and now we’re calling for his head. The fact of the matter of this whole situation is because of Warren go back to hard knocks. Why do we see him popping up everywhere with player decisions? I think a lot of this stuff was forced. Why was Caleb named the starter before camp even opened because Tyson would’ve beat him out and they knew it and a talent level yeah Caleb is way better but as a football player, Tyson is a better football player. He understands the game more. He’s played the game more And Caleb could’ve sat behind him this year and that off the line. It looks so bad just like last year when he stepped in for fields, all of a sudden the offensive line looked good. Why because he knows how to get rid of the ball Tyson had one horrific game through five pics and throw all my perks give me a break Not saying Tyson is or isn’t the future I believe he can start in this league but he definitely could’ve played better than Caleb did this year yeah but the Chicago sports media just wants to cover their asses because they praised William so bad so now they’re gonna blame polls when they praise them last yearwe need guys like Mike North back on the scene who love Chicago sports teams, not wanna whine and bitch