The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 759 | Farina Baby
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
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In the latest episode from the Bionic Six, the room reacts to Shannon Sharpe’s week in which he went live on Instagram while engaging in sexual acts (28:54) before moving to a breakdown of Kendrick Lamar’s new record (1:02:04). The internet has engaged in debates about whether K. Dot will perform ‘Not Like Us’ at the Super Bowl (1:30:33), Lil Wayne posts a video showing his disappointment in not getting the New Orleans halftime show (1:36:15), and the JBP then discusses when they think Kendrick will drop his project and how many units he will move first week (1:56:09). Also, the 2024 MTV VMAs took place (2:21:53), Tyla and Halle Bailey’s viral moment (2:27:05), the Kamala Harris & Donald Trump debate (2:51:00), Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa suffers another scary concussion (3:01:47), and much more!
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Joe didn't expect the rest of the crew to oppose his views on Tyla. Like all of them knew he's out of line. Big shoutout to them
Yup, they did great. How r u gonna say i’m supposed to dance w Usher bc he’s a legend while i’m in a relationship? that’s dumb
@@lumberjack6533 you missed the point; he was discussing the numerous steps and signs you were to take if you were not going to dance in the first place and she could have done so - At past a specific point, its an intentional curve and bad form - To be clear, its not about a mandatory dance; it's about how to move from the layup.
@@lumberjack6533I think she heard about the herpes 😂😂😂
@@BigdadiSixty9GTCSavage 🤣🤣🤣
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As a South African. Tyla was not wrong. African music is not just Afro-Beats. Especially in South Africa.
Great Point., and of course there is more to African Music. That was the VMAs an American show, not global show. African music does not have to hit an American audience or global audience to be great music or popular. Afro Beats is American colonize genre, which occurs when you try to make popular music. It is water down, pun intended!
I hear you ! In America it’s Afrobeats tho, just like Mexican food is American is called Mexican food and not just food
It’s the same concept.
@@TinyTalks2Much I hear you! Only if we could call Hip hop, American hip hop because it's from America
bro joe knows nothing about African music but the ones that are popular. Tyla isn’t wrong nor is tems, joe simply hates tyla because he feels she doesn’t have the “right” to speak the way she does
@@TinyTalks2Much your right, but also proves my point. ‘Mexican food’ is water down food from that country. Mexican chefs created the food to appeal to Americans.
Old white Americans want to simplify everything for their consumption. Trying to get recognition from country like America that fails to recognize true identity is foolish.
People in America that actually love music do not identify African music as simply afrobeats or African Music. We call it music.
They play 'Not Like Us' on Peloton -- a company that predominantly caters to white women and is incredibly focused on the safety of their brand, so much so that they removed all Ye and Diddy songs. He'll have no problem performing that song at the Super Bowl. He's already done it on Amazon's platform that they live streamed and promoted to the highest extent, ya boomers.
that is actually a very good point
Thank you! People don’t understand that Drake is a white household name, the moment Kendrick exposed him was the beginning of the end.
@@dntriahyeah no..
@@dntriahbro my very white religious uptight auntie who not like the rest of the family has been listening to gods plan every day since it came out. Drake really transcends what we think is the demo. Youre totally right this song being this big the biggest threat drake ever had to his career
He will do a clean version. I remember when he performed alright with Dre he censored out the police line.
Your point about Tems saying Afrobeats is from Nigeria is exactly what Tyla was trying to educate the "establishment" about.. You completely missed the point.. Tyla' s sound is Amapiano inspired... Her winning an Afrobeats award and saying the win is appreciated but bittersweet at the same time is based on the above point... African music is indeed diverse.. Tems explained this and also did Tyla. Amapiano is from South Africa and Afrobeats is from Nigeria. You can't group the two under Afrobeats... They are not the same... Tyla also acknowledged the nominees in the category as to say, i know i won but shout out to the real Afrobeats artists... Hence "bittersweet"
You get it
if you believed that truly you wouldn't have accepted the award is what your missing - this is the same as being colored and not black but will take all the black benefits - if you can't see the reoccurring issue - I can't help you. Furthermore if beyonce can hold multiple grammys she can hold 1 award. Like I said we going to let yall live.
@@Mpho_Znapz Bruv, she sent a shout out to all of them, Joe out here shocked that a 22 year old African girl has an "attitude" how dare she have an attitude because attitude is reserved for us Americans, goofy AF!!!
@@jaccl4539no, there r levels. she made the point that ppl r now seeing that african music can be popular music. her winning the award, when her music went pop, shows that AFRICAN music is being recognized. now the bittersweet part is that she wins afrobeats as if it’s all one genre. she can accept the award bc her music is being recognized while at the same time recognizing that they still MTV and Award Shows have much improvement to do in dissecting the different genres in AFRICAN Music
@@jaccl4539you guys clearly haven’t understood the colorist concept in south africa vs america and it’s gonna keep bothering y’all forever
Joe has to understand that Tyla was actually apologising to Nigerians because her music is not Afrobeats. It’s another genre of music called Amapiano. And her RACE category + culture is called Coloured here in South Africa it’s not a shame but something to be proud of. Her behaviour is basically the ideal behaviour in South Africa for a young lady her age to decern when she’s not comfortable with something that she wasn’t raised to accept.. yall like grinding on everything… she is completely normal to me and the problem is she is too South African and not a plant that’s she carries herself so genuinely and so does Tems who has actually lived and studied in South Africa for some time… thank you Mel for trying to open the eyes of the blind but the result is the same on Joe
She did a horrible job! Also she won an award for an Afro beats sounding song! A real apology would have been I don’t deserve this award because I don’t make Afro beats! Also she should have been letting ppl know exactly what style of music she makes on all of these interviews and make sure she isn’t placed in the wrong genre!
Black people was called colored in the 1950s
She could've removed herself from the category.
I feel like nobody taught Mel how to cuss properly lmao
well... she is half white.
She tries to sound black but the white comes out especially when she curses 😂
Agreed , it does feel forced 😂😂
She’s from Canada….
She's Canadian 😂
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That Tyla take is a perfect example of what cause the beef with Americans and everybody else not just Africans. This girl makes music in a complete different genre, she does not need to adapt American ideologies to be accepted. Joe literally just went off on this girl talking so much shit as if shes doing something to hip hop. Its like Americans cant grasp the concept of a world where black people outside of the US dont see whatever Americans have going on as the ultimate goal. Ice can say afrobeats is not his thing he dont care for it, but the moment other people say yea i dont really fuck with your culture like that its war. People dont end up in america to be black people literally go there because thats where the industry and resources are. The major labels and infrastructures. Tems literally said the exact same thing as what Tyla said, i technically dont do afrobeats there are other genre of music coming out of Africa but shout out to all the artiste that fought to get us here.
Joe kinda hushed after the Tems interview
Joe hating on a young girl who is confident, who isn't bowing down, who is just saying her truth annoys him is crazy. Afrobeats has not been well known in mass consumption in the US. She is young and has her head on . If she came out naked and did the same thing i'm pretty sure joe would be singing her praises and telling her to talk less.
Tyla didn't want to be another usher girl she stood on business, Africans have morals💯
Morals? Is she married or she sleeping with someone she's not married to?
And Americans don't. See that is the problem. Those statements sound like who we defended ourselves against to have Africans comfortable enough to even be non white and free to say what you just said. But go off...
@@dianeross4522this like the whole just because I said I like orange juice that mean I hate apple juice analogy that be going around lol
@@brashadcarr6759 you’re being disingenuous ah… Or do you need what just happened explained to you?
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Mel's take on Kendrick's new track was excellent.
Did not expect that from her. Salute.
its hard to expect anything when they hardly let her talk
@@dictionary9150 half breeds really shouldn’t be allowed to talk
Yo, I appreciate all these takes
Tyla's speech completely went over their heads. Tyla is not an Afrobeats artist. Americans tend to group all African music under Afrobeats.. So that's why she highlighted her single Water, it proves that other genres can also make an impact on a global scale.
Exactly African music is diverse
True, What Tems said was an extension of what Tyla said.
Tems said the same shyt Tyla said.. Joe didn't even peep game lol
So busy hating on Tyla..
if beyonce can hold 6 grammys at once she can hold 1 award - no more needs to be said and if you understand you get it
@@jaccl4539 you think Beyoncé hasn't done asshole shit as great as she is?
people are just mad Tyla called herself a "coloured" and not "black", they are forgetting she's not from the united states but south africa, and in south africa there is an actual group of people separate from black people that are in fact called coloured. it perfectly normal for us (south africans), why are people making it such a big deal? ..... SHE'S COLOURED GET OVER IT JOE.
Americans have a hard time with other cultures we act as tho we are the world's culture. Our way or its weird/wrong.
your saying the same thing he is - fine nothing wrong with being coloured then but expect no benefits of the black culture. Not hate or confusion - Your making his argument for him
@jaccl4539 "Black culture" doesnt even exist.
@@jaccl4539coloured is what black ppl call themselves in SA. Your problem is that you think blackness starts and ends with African Americans. Black ppl in the 60’s called themselves coloured but because they changed their way of thinking they think the whole world should have also changed. South Africa still is segregated.
@@freddylloyd8083 You're incorrect on numerous points, and I understand your confusion. The short answer is your incorrect. The nuanced point is that you're pointing out how people identify but misunderstand the distinction.
Your conflating a term including a group with being the group.
Being colored does not imply being exclusively black in any country. I believe you are misinterpreting the colloquial term "people of color," which is not synonymous with "black."
Colored is the accepted term for Asian, black, or mixed-race people.
Furthermore, since 1807, there has been a distinction between negro, mulatto, and person of color.
People of color served as a rallying cry and an identity, symbolizing the collective of all those who would face enslavement and thus require legal protection.
In South Africa, the term "colored" does not refer to black people but rather to people of mixed ancestry.
The problem with your argument, sir/mam, is that you don't understand what you're talking about respectfully.
I can also continue with the historical use of negro to be colored to AA to minority back to AA, but it seems unnecessary at this point.
Even MLK made a distinction between negro and colored.
If this was a discussion about slurs, your argument would have more credence, but that's a different sidebar all together.
I say all that to say no matter what country or timeline we look at - your argument doesn't work.
2:46:31 Joe seems to have an issue with Tyla, but Tems said nearly the same thing about Amapiano and Afrobeats on The Breakfast Club. Tyla's just pointing out that Amapiano, like Afrobeats, deserves its own recognition. It’s a genre from South Africa that stands on its own, and grouping them together only blurs that distinction.
It's the same sound. Matter of fact, what they do in Nigeria right now isn't afro beat. Fela kuti did afro beat, no one else does that. Afro beat is like conscious rap, non of the artist from Africa is doing that but still call their shxt afro beat? No jazz infusion, just raggaeton with ragga infusion.
@@eccentricaste3232no its not search amapiano songs on here and rethink your opinion its just that tyla is singing in English. Amapiano has a signature light sound the instruments are not in your face the drums also soft and vibey and Afrobeats is not that the instruments are more in your face and the drums you can here them loud. I feel like Nigerians think they are the pioneers of everything amapiano is infact inspired by deep house, and feel gqom influence there. Afrobeats is Afrobeats, Amapiano is South African made we have been vibing to it for years here
Joe take on Tyla is so ridiculous. She is not an afrobeats artist. And she won that award. She was trying to point that out. But Joe was acting like he knew afrocan music when discussing Oma ley. Bye Joe
What they complaining about with the the Kendrick song is exactly what he talking about in the song 😂 Its fkn hilarious
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Thank you. The one irony wasn’t lost on all of US.
Trying to decipher Kendrick Lamar’s level of GENIUS/ART is NOT for the weak. You should have at least a baseline level of intelligence along with a good dose of emotional/Spiritual depth or you come off looking vapid! This is mainly for the one in the high chair….After listening to him that chair seems so appropriate now! His mental capacity seems almost child like….Dude this record is about ‘YOU’ and anyone who moves through the world or sounds like you on their platforms! 😅And what’s even crazier is he is literally sitting there in his high chair, 😅trying to advise and critique KENDRICK the actual “GENIUS” on what his next move should have been….🤦🏾♀️ These “innannets” are a wild place!! Yeah KDOT 🤴🏾Burn this shht down!!
EXACTLY
@@kymikay31wipe your after you are finished 😂😂😂
00:00:00 - Podcast Disclaimer
00:05:50 - Upcoming Holidays
00:13:44 - Discussion on Relationships
00:20:23 - Money Talk: Generational Wealth
00:27:25 - Health Check: Importance of Checkups
00:37:42 - Marketing Moves: Engagement Strategies
00:43:33 - Internet's Impact on Personal Lives
00:50:09 - Voyerism and Its Appeal
00:57:49 - Live Reactions and Ratings
01:04:11 - Cultural Commentary on Hip-Hop
01:14:22 - Kendrick's Release Strategy
01:20:11 - Drake's Disgusting Behavior
01:28:47 - Kendrick's Connection with Fans
01:37:20 - Wayne's Vulnerability Online
01:43:20 - Wayne's Career Management
01:57:02 - Kendrick's Album Release Strategy
02:04:03 - Seafood Salad Debate
02:09:42 - Discussion on Cheating Norms
02:17:44 - Desire for Experienced Partners
02:25:30 - Meg's Performance Highlights
02:37:13 - Afrobeats and Cultural Impact
02:44:21 - Afrobeats: Origin and Cultural Significance
02:51:24 - Debate Analysis: Candidates' Performance
02:58:51 - Comparing Leadership Styles in Politics
03:05:15 - Concussion Discussion
03:13:06 - Retirement News in Rap
03:20:44 - Civil War vs. World War Discussion
03:30:18 - Friendship and Money Loans
03:37:17 - Music Industry Insights
03:43:15 - Spy Store Tracker Discussion
Thank you cuz these mfs don’t be talking about shit for the first 45 minutes
You're fast with the timestamp. The episode literally just got posted. But thank u because I'm going to skip the intro. They talk too much, lol😂
Not all hero’s wear capes thanks for the time stamp
Thank you 🙏🏾
Commenting to keep track of this
Joe definitely hating on Tyla bro it’s shows in his face.
No he not! Tyla is mad weird!! She is literally eating off of something she saying she’s not! Afro beats is an Nigerian sound! She makes South African music! She is doing exactly what Post Malone did with hip hop! Used it to do what he actually wanted to do! SMH y’all buggin! The shit she did was disrespectful to Nigerian ppl! Using the culture and then using it to help a whole different genre!
I am an African and a citizen of the United States. Tyla clearly said she is amapiano artist. Which is a form of Afro beat. They are plenty of Nigerian artist who took the amapiano sound to the next level, why because Nigerians are that talented. Post Malone did the same with hip hop but he didn’t do it best. We as African don’t compete for who started a sound. End of the the day is all afro music. Same way Jamaicans say Afro beats started from reggae music. End of the day who cares bro just be informed before speaking cause it can come off as ignorant.
@@RocDopeTyla is from South Africa and they started amapiano. Just do your homework bro bro
@@FancyLive1 amapiano is not a sub-genre of afrobeats! Idk why you think that but you dead wrong and i am not Africa and I know more about the music then you! Go look it up! Amapiano is a sub genre of kwaito! At the end of the day my point is she shouldn’t have won afrobeats anything! Even though water sounds like an afrobeat!
Lol vma's not about to have a million african genres awards
The Tyla take from Joe is Dud, Way too emotional talking about a 22 year old.
Joseph Budden being misogynoiristic, having an issue with a young woman displaying the importance of consent, expressing deep xenophobia and blatant historical ignorance is wild in ‘24. Unsurprising but wild.
"your hitting me from the back with so much vitriol"
i died laughing lol
🤣🤣
Judging Kendrick’s “Let the Party Die” by replay value already lets you know Ice & Ish’s musical taste is 🗑️. Art is meant to convey artist’s feelings & make you feel something. Judging it off replay value is nearly the same as judging art based on sales.
Couldn't have said it better bro
You worded this perfectly. And I couldn’t agree more
Well replay value just means its a certain type of song that you will keep with you. Some music (most of kendricks) is more like a movie to me. Or a good limited tv show. I love his music and think his albums are great (all classics imo) but i dont really play them alot. I listen to the albums in whole and enjoy the loose singles and go back from time to time, but its just a different experience with the art. Compared to drake who does make songs that i ride to more, very different approaches to the music
@@juugmanyopsss I always ride to Kendrick. I barely ever listen to Drake the substance been gone. His music feels empty to me.
@@waynejr8500 well i was just using him as an example. Kendrick does have some vibe records but in the whip most people tend to go to diff music. Like future is honestly king of the aux. just how its perceived tbh. Not even saying i never ride to dot, tbh euphoria gets s lot of plau from me and be on the radio a LOT where im at (in the south! Lmao crazy)
Mel is more vocal than ever. Love the growth
I'm noticing that too😅
She getting her word count in Joe is watching how much people talk on the show times how much they should get
Finally, and Joe is not diminishing her before she completes her thoughts, whether he agrees with it or not, he should allow her to speak on the topic and join in on the discussion, otherwise she is not needed on the team.
When they let her I feel bad for her sometimes
@@cdubb8827 same
Damn Joe hating on Tyla is crazy.
Tyla does Amapiano not Afrobeats, hence the speech. Joe is ignorant AF. She said please and thank you
If you know anything about Kendrick, this is actually PERFECT timing for this. He has the whole world watching, and he's preaching HIS *usual* message, which is on brand, AND it's very necessary for the climate. Idk if people were expecting more Mustard sounds, but when does he ever do the same thing twice? That's not K. Dot. Also, it's very obvious that this was call-out to the industry and the culture/society as a whole.
Haven't been watching or listening. Tbh hearing his name makes me sleepy and bored. He can go away
@@joshavergonzado1983 you could shut up and ignore him if you really feel that way
@@joshavergonzado1983That is because you would rather shake your ass like a female than actually be learning something. If you missed his message then your part of the problem and maybe you should be In the line of bodies getting organized. No hard feelings, but we gotta destroy to rebuild
Talking as if he's a Messiah or something :/
Sounded boring
The Gloves, The Jacket, now The Shoes - dont sleep on K Dot
Facts 💯
What jacket
K dot the Black Mike Jack 💯😂 let me show you the impact Mike jack really had on the culture
@@DJayVenom812 what jacket
Just waiting on the underwear ong😩🙏🏽🙏🏽
Those bars went right over flips surface level head ass 😂
Exactly
He’s learning, a student of the game. 5% will comprehend but 95 is lost….
Smooth over
@@lvduffels 💯
@@jmoneywavy7603 this is the only genre we’re u really gotta listen to them lyrics 💯🙏🏾these pop mfs don’t get it.
That take on Tyla was so disgusting, because why can't the girl have boundaries
She's in America now people going to have opinions about celebrities
Insanely disgusting🙄🙄 ,I'm so disappointed at Joe's take on the matter. He hates Tyla for no reason nxa.
@@shakakasenzangakhona1787opinions are different than being mad at someone for not letting somebody dance on them from behind. She doesn’t even need a valid reason for that. Y’all have lost your minds 💀
Yeah. It was a lazy take. I think he's got more of a beef with how the industry is handling her than to Tyla personally. Granted, I thought the award being heavy is weird but this girl is really not problematic
Exactly
I pray Tyla never stops standing up tall for who she is. Africa will never have the same standards and values that AAs have. I couldn't close my mouth the whole entire time on this Usher and Tyla dance thing. Tyla acted like an African girl would. An African girl who was raised well would act exactly like that. It is not surprising that she did that. The shocking part is him (Joe) saying she should've let it be. Wow!
It's not really shocking if you know what joe likes. He's into toxic, ratchet and 304 behavior. His hatred towards tyla makes no sense besides that. Flip was making a point about carribean ms having similar standards and morals but joe cut him off with his bitter hate towards her. He doesn't care to understand south Africans but want her to understand African American. Straight typical hypocrite joe
@@ellah_cha that's why Africans are ALWAYS OFF CODE. So HYON
@@ellah_cha Thank you and I'm not African.. I made a comment earlier regarding the beef with American and everybody and one of my major point is . American talk and operate as if all black people see American culture as the pinnacle of being black. No no no some ppl don't care to adapt everything related to American culture. To get on a podcast and not even grasp that culturally that wouldn't be accepted is crazy.
American values are disgusting
@@killaswing1000 💯
That Tyla take was ridiculous 😂
I agree with Joe y'all need to start gate keeping y'all culture bra
American’s just being American’s 🤷🏾♂️
nah she wayyyy to entitled
People need to touch grass. The Tyla hate of all ppl is WEIRD.
@@kasseen You’re entitled
If KDots album is Infinity Wars, this new track is an Ant Man movie to connect the story.
Damn
So Tyla is uppity because she doesn’t wanna let Usher grind on her? That’s weird asf. She doesn’t have to let Usher do that. I like that she’s loyal to her man that way.
Joe is a hater of Tyla, there’s no reason for him to not like her and it’s the fact everyone is not agreeing with his reasoning because it doesn’t make sense
Is it something wrong if that's his opinion
A lot of people dont like her because she said shes not black, instead shes coloured. Thats the same thing as saying im not black im mixed. Kinda coonish in my book, Even though i dont agree with joe!
These group are so ignorant when it comes to understanding African music. Tyla is so spot on. She literally talked about African music and these idiots are saying Afro beats. Afro beats is ONE of MANY GENRES in Africa. Amapiano is another genre that originated in South Africa. Water is NOT an afro beat song and should not be in the Afro beat category. Its disrespectful actually. Tyla is not an Afro beats artist. She is just an Artist. Just because an Artist happens to be from Africa doesn't mean they are automatically Afro beats artists. If Selena gomez or Beyonce had made the water song with the exact same beat and lyrics, do you think the song would be in the Afro beats category???Joe is literally upset over his own ignorance. Like you cant comprehend Africa has various genres of music? That would be like grouping every American artist into a rap category and just call them rappers just because they are American. Tyla actually pointed it out gracefully. Even Tems is not an Afro beats artist. They have way more range than that. Like didnt they listen to Tems album? The entire panel needs to go and educate themselves on African music. Afro beats is not an alternative name to African music.
100%
I can’t be the only one that notices when Joe feels played his eye twitches before he fires off ☠️☠️☠️ 52:38
Tick tick tick…BOOM💣💥😂🤣
😂😂😂
He’s just like me 😆😆😆
The adderall meth mething lol
I just keep noticing Ish repeating EXACTLY what each person says after they say it 😵💫🤣
It's ashame how slow Flip is, this is the PERFECT time for Kendrick to drop a record like is. While everyone is discussing stupid shit like a Superbowl performance, he drops a beautiful song that's needed, truthful and impactful. Everything about this song is perfect.
I've become quite the fan of Tyla, and I can honestly say based off her interviews and just general content, she seems to be very humble, & grateful for where she is, and where she's going. I don't believe she's tone deaf, just learning the way of American culture, on top of Black American POP culture. It sucks seeing her go through this, because we all just want to make music, unfortunately tho it's not that simple. There's alot of politics within our industry. If you don't learn them, you can get lost in it. Tyla will get the hang of things, and continue to be the star she was destined to be! 💖
2:37:08 lets be fair, Tayla said AFRICAN MUSIC, not just Afro beats, and Tayla represents amapiano music.
Joe hating on Tyla is crazy
Not 10 mins in and flip already exposing some shit mel said off camera and trying out some more shit the cast telling him to chill on. This why mad people feeling like he shouldnt be there. Mad Immature at his big age
Telling people you didn’t like the food you had in the Bahamas is going too far???? Lol
Lmao stop watching then
@@ninobeezy7768 lmao nah.
@Damian-zu6ls He does it every episode and you can tell they starting to get annoyed with him
I don’t understand the issue with Tyla…all I’m hearing is that she doesn’t act how y’all want her to. What’s wrong with her being confident???
Confident and thinking you’re better than others is different. She’s gotten “Big headed”
@QueenTeaSipper, if you were South African or knew anything about Johannesburg in particular, you would know that Tyla is a very typical girl from Joburg. Most girls who come from that city carry themselves with an air of confidence. Go to Joburg and you will see many young South African women who are confident and just walk into every room like they belong there. Joburg girls are very self-assured. It's the cultural norm for them because they also come from the wealthiest city in South Africa .I think that maybe people in the USA just perhaps have a different view of African immigrants and how they believe they should conduct themselves in American Society. Tyla is also not new to Africa as she has been making music for the last 4 years. People outside of the African continent have only heard of her in 2023.
@@mssummer07 well she can keep that shiii in SA
@@mssummer07 And no I know tons of Africans and even married to one. She is a different breed. Keep that shiii in SA because ain’t nobody else kissing her arse like she’s the only thing walking foh
This is coming from the same man that preaches he doesnt want to interact with his own fan base and doesnt want any relationship with any rapper in the industry that he actually operates.
isn’t it funny how Joe hates the coloured girl, when 80% of people in this cast would be consider coloured just off skin tone alone! 😂
Him included
The word "coloured " being used for mixed race people is not just a normal thing in "South Africa" but Southern Africa, this includes countries like Zimbabwe, Zambia, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland and so on, and then one country wants to dictate on how people in these countries should racially categorise themselves is wild to me. And on top of that people deciding to hate Tyla based on something that they don't understand (don't even try to understand) because of how ignorant and self-centred they are. Yet she tries to learn and adjust to your culture
There's literally a video on X, from the awards taken from behind the stage that clearly shows Tyla asking Lil Nas X to hold the award not Halle 🤷
And the Usher scenario 🤦♂️
Joe budden having so much opinion about Tyla and doesn't even know our history is just soo American to me. To even call her a plant is weird why does she have to adapt being America when you guys don't even understand who she is and what she represents.
your proving his point - Someone has gotten into your circle that you don't understand or know what they represent is a plant. - I don't need to understand or know you - its not adding up why your here and how your here.
@@jaccl4539the same way Nigerians are known in America
@@jaccl4539 it was the never for you to understand hence why you'd call her an industry plant, having a amapiano song takes her to greater hights was absolutely out of her control, now it's Americans wanting her to adapt to what she's expected to be in America, the gag is 😂 she knows her worth and knows amapiano is not for Americans to understand, yea it's cute having amapiano trending dances by Americans from south Africa but yall don't even know the energy and the lyricism behind it all, the culture and lived experiences of it all, whereby you have a colored woman singing amapiano with some vernal and local adlips and call her a plant coz her amapiano seems sophisticated, enhanced and polished. South Africans doesn't have industry plant from where I'm from its hard earned, it's your projection of the shitty plants that were manufactured in America yall call artists and confuse it with someone who's not making music that you aren't even meant to understand 🤦
@@jaccl4539 but she isnt in your circle. she isnt hip hop she isnt R&B, shes a completely different genre of music. The only thing america has that she needs is the resources and infrastructure and that isnt owned by African americans.
@@killaswing1000 again proving his point - so the crossover with black artist , platforms were being used to get somewhere else. We seen this play out with Miley Cyrus as well. Lol yall be telling on yourself I agree with you and that is the problem that was discussed.
Joe is really the Pod Godfather!! I don't know if anyone notices how he's able get everyone engaged and fired up on a topic. It's an art!!!
It's a gift and a curse... cause why tf can't they come in and start without Joe having to "pump it up" pun intended 😅 all the time
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@@deelow828 Yep. If they would all just share some personal experiences in their life, this podcast would take off to the moon. Mel has been in the industry around rich folks for 20+ years and she ain't got no damn exciting stories.
Freeze the fact that you won’t go back to this song is like saying your soul is not embedded into this culture like that
Right, like it’s directly speaking about how these guys treat women and the culture
I’m gonna predict Kendrick’s album drops on MLK day. Just a thought 🤔.
@@jranderson2 what’s the powerball numbers g? Your comment should be higher
I second this notion
I notice when nobody agrees with Joe, he wants to move on when they start agreeing with each other
Thank u
Wayne dirty macking the Super Bowl is wild
Flip is really immature. I understand being from up top they are already kind of ignorant but that's just super dumb and it's not even 5 minutes into the pod yet.
Flip had always lacked intelligence but you don’t need it to make money
@@NineEight_NineI see, not wanting to make a will. 😂😂😂😂
Damn you hating
Being up top lol😂
@@seanchristopher6645 thats not hate ive been warching flip since flip the script first episode..he rarely shows any level of intelligence on mad topics it is what it is
19:14 Joe, please do these intros once a week (but only when Flip is there). 😂
Flip was the perfect hype man to Joe. So fun!
Came to say the same 😅
Parks saying "you on your weight loss journey?" had me in tears lol
😂 it was so legendary. I laughed hard!
😂😂😂😂
There should be a "no cursing" rule in Melyssa's contract. Shii is cringey as fvck..
And she does it early so it messes up RUclips monetization
Shut the hell up.
I like it😂
@@RuReady115joe messes up the youtube monetization. He said that plenty of times and he dont care
I agree. It sounds very forced
first time i had to tune down the pod because i felt second hand embarassement by joe´s obsessive takes on Tyla . There was nothing wrong with her speech ,she gave off strong confident young african woman vibes .Nobody in the room agreed with him but he had to have the last word .He´s too old not to notice that his whole career he was the arrogant self absorbed one and that girl doesnt even come close
Sounds like tyla dubbed a interview with joe and he finally had a chance to hate on her
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I think the song dropped at the right time. Kendrick been catching strays since the Superbowl halftime show announcement. He's human like everybody else, so he had some shi to get off his chest. People don't like Kendrick because he's not out here f'ing strippers and blowing his money on bs, or outside being messy and popping bullshit on social media all day. People want messy. People want murder, drugs and mayhem. He wants to show you that you don't have to lie, cheat, and throw money to get to here you want to go. Burn it all down and rebuild this shit back up.
Song 🗑️ af
Love your take on this topic. I agreed. I’m so tired of the microwave music that is pushed on us.
@@ninobeezy7768 "why argue with these clowns when the circus is well at work".
Joe goin off about tyla just living her life gave me yachty flashbacks 😂
Very different scenarios
He is telling both of them that they are delusional 😅😅😅😅and look at Boat now trying to get rid of everyone
Fuck Tyla she disowned her blackness
Idk it just seems Joe is just Xenophobic, if it isn't Black American music then they aren't allowed to step in this country, but American music is allowed to spread Globally, what a contradiction. That Usher segment was some weirdo shit, whining is common in a lot of African countries, but now consent is out the window because somebody is famous? People can have self-respect and control.
It just looks like a lack of understanding of African culture, Tyla was just doing some silly banter that you see from West Africans as well, yet he somehow saw that as insulting Americans, and he doesn't know the distinction between the music from different African cultures. Afrobeats is mainly West African with a majority being Nigerian, and some from Ghana, she is bigging up South Africa with their Amapiano, and she is the first to hit it really big from her country, why is this a problem? This is weird behaviour.
I've not seen her cause any problems, other than a misunderstanding that doesn't translate well in USA due to cultural differences, she just does her own thing most of the time.
I don't know but I don't think Tyla has to subscribe to the "American culture" she just doing her own thing
The Kendrick song was meant for people like Ice, Ish, and flip
You got that right
Ice was objective tho he said he likes the concept just not the delivery
Trash song
This what y’all anytime somebody doesn’t like that bullshit
The timing of the kendrick record hits perfect because he's not doing what's "IDEAL" to the industry. y'all waiting for singles he has a bigger message for the culture and hip-hop as a whole and instead of capitalizing off the moment with a single he chose (as he tends to do) he chooses to address the culture on a serious note. THATS THE TAKE>
what did lil wayne do in the last couple years to put himself in view of the NFL for a halftime show?
Slaughtered every verse he been on!
Same thing usher did last couple years... you sound nuts
@@dominiquewoods4324these niggas just be talking
Every halftime show performer in the past wasn’t doing anything to be visible during the years prior to their halftime show performance. Why is that a stipulation for Wayne? I can name several performers that weren’t doing anything of significance prior to performing.
@@dominiquewoods4324 Usher has been a resident in Vegas . and he was working on the album . his team put him in that position for the game. what did Wayne’s team do with him to try and get him the spot? that would make them choose him over the one who is literally having the run of the year right now? think bro think . it’s a no brainer for them to want Kendrick
Saying someone doesn't understand America culture having boundaries is a wild ignorant statement.
She was being awarded for bringing her culture.
Why not respect each other's cultures and boundaries.
As a South African it’s so frustrating hearing Joe talk about tyla, like he doesn’t even know the girl but he has strong takes about her. You can literally see the hate in his face whenever she’s mentioned and it’s so disturbing to watch.
Unc should travel more especially to Africa to learn about different cultures and discover a different point of view of the world because travelling is honestly an antidote to ignorance.
Honestly, think he doesn't fool with her because she's another one of those obviously clear cut, industry plants. Also, colorism is a thing world wide. Fairer skin haa been weaponized and ingrained in society to be the better more acceptable appearance as opposed to the darker skin complexions of the world. I can see why some of her comments or the way she moves would rub some people the wrong way.
Mannn if Flip was into Sports it would go crazy. He all Sunday Football energy on this pod
Dude into wrestling 😒
Joe straight up skip over the Dee-1 and Lecrae shout out by Kendrick.
Like yes you were wrong about Dee-1😂😂😂
The bleeped out part of the song could have been paying homage to Dee-1. Dee-1 is known for asking rappers who get on songs with him to keep it clean. It can’t be a coincidence that he bleeps out the line immediately after he mentions Dee-1. Just my opinion.
@@daeastbeast5046 well no because it's kendrick song and he's by himself. Joe's theory might be try about what's bleeped out and if that's true then Kenny and Drake should have never beefed. They have a common enemy and they could have dealt with that together.
@@stevieg5907what is the common enemy? My bad your comment a lil confusing
And dee 1 the truth has been a really long time. Cash money stepped on him back in the day too when he was doing the mixtape on Wayne beats
I need to know ow what the bleeped part is about?? Who died!!!
If people think this is a drake diss then it speaks to validity and thoughts of what Kendrick was talking about as a whole
Ayo Flip's ability to instigate a competition between Ish and Joe is hilarious 😂😂 and then Joe's ability to turn the joke back on Flip is even more hilarious 😂
Joe dont be doing his homework all the way before speaking on topics, but be getting on everyone else.
No shit. Tyla is South African. Why would she understand American culture? Does Joe understand South African culture? I highly doubt it.
Shannon knew he was on live. You know how many steps it takes go on IG live??
No, how many steps?
@@ANTIStraussiantwo steps
@@Laidback718TWO STROKES
Yeah it’s only two steps
Plot twist: it was Michelle who did it 😮 lol
I am proudly South African and fan of the pod, so disappointed at Joe’s ignorance, shoutout to Ish, Mel and big Parks for trying to teach 🙏🏾
Yes, the 3 you mentioned brought a balanced perspective. The crazy thing is that when you try and give more context about South African society, Joe doesn't want you to educate him. He has no interest, and therefore, his view of Tyla is so off and uninformed. There's also nothing wrong with emphasing that there are many genres of music that come out of Africa.
Usher said in a interview that he extended his residency to prove that he deserved the superbowl performance
A “They Not Like Us” T shirt with the bundle pack alone would make people who don’t regularly purchase albums purchase that album. The numbers would be crazy.
The first verse of Not Like Us gotta be played wit the HBCU band
Being shitty to your wife’s friends is a red flag 😂 but ok
Exactly. I had one who like me and tired talking to me after they broker up.
No it’s not 😂😂 are you even married
@@Hiphop_Love don’t have to like their friends but how you treat them matters. Treating your significant others friends like shit…. Is a red flag. It says a lot about your love and respect for your person. It is also commonly narcissistic behavior. You don’t have to agree. Carry on.
@@Swv8rglmao so not married like he said 😂
@@ninobeezy7768 I am actually. Tryna guess a strangers life is dumb lol
Flip really be making shit not funny and completely awkward. Just relax dude and let it flow naturally
Flip adds LIFE to this podcast, too 😂
He's a GREAT hype-man, he brings an excitement that is absent sans his presence, & he and Joe play-off each other well.
@nikkinic2269 he do the opposite too
@weird1877 he do but the most part he fails and Joe steals the joke Flip tried to make LoL
Hey does both to me. Sometimes he's perfect and sometimes it's like shut up flip wrong time dumass lol
You see what he did on the intro
Why does ish say he feel more confident with kamala interacting with other world leaders when trump has literally done it before? And none of the things hes afraid of happened?
Wait... so The Bahamas can have nasty food or other countries have better/fine tasting foods other than The Bahamas. Yet, when Keith Lee said Washington got bad tasting food... yall was in an uproar?!?! Mel clearly went to "the bad spots".... in bahamian defense
Tyla will be a guest on the Joe Budden Podcast after Joe apologizes after his vacation.
😂
As a Bahamian Native....Bahamas Food is not disgusting
Just got to know the right spots to go to
irked me with that comment
Ice was on twitter taking that record as a diss towards drake now he’s acting as if he understood everything about it from the jump? OKAY.
🎯🎯🎯
"Poddin" lmao
He really irritates me out of all of them
@@---pd3dg I mean, time passes. He could understand it now.
Joe’s soul hurt having to confirm Drake was indeed asked more than once to do the Super Bowl 😂😂😂
Mel: They would Rate me a 9
Rest of Crew: 😕😬😶🤔🙄
I would love it if they did this live with a call center for us to give insight on certain topics.
Idk it seems like Flip doesn’t have any real friends outside of being with his son all the time.
None of us do. "Real friends" are practically extinct. And being close with your teenage son is a blessing. If anything Flip up off that alone.
Nah, treating your kids as 'friends' is weird. Expecting them to hide your...infidelities(as Flip has implied in the past) is even weirder@@82shamroc
You now noticing that lol
Nothing wrong with that
@@82shamrocspeak for yourself bruh, I grew up with my best friends since middle school lol
There’s nothing to the Tyla convo lol. People act differently, have different attitudes. Even that Tems clip she sounds annoyed, but, no that’s just how she talks lol. From the audio, Tyla sounded like she was actually cool with whoever she was asking to hold the award. And they are from a much more collective culture - in South Africa that shxt would probably be nothing. Anyway….. Her song didn’t open the door for African music - in this current wave.. Ckay - Love Nwantiti and Rema - Calm Down were big way before Water. Tems also. BUT She is right though, everything isn’t Afrobeats. South Africa does have it’s own music.. Amapiano, Kwaito, Gqom, etc. So, she is correct, she does show that African music can be mainstream beyond just Afrobeats. What’s sad about this convo is that South Africans are actually probably the closest to African Americans. Their experience, their music, their style, etc. Joe was poddin’ tho lol…. 😂 poddin’ poddin’
Joe needs his warmed milk and snuff every two podcast episodes. His take on Tyla was WILD. Don't do that to the young lady making her space in the game, killing it and representing South Africa and Africa as a whole. It's dangerous
Joe is annoying, Tyla is 22 he wanted Usher to be grinding on her and his mad 😂 FOH!!!
Joe, it's way too soon to be making canabilistic babymoms jokes after that story. This dude said, "Mmm! I can taste the restrictions!" 😭🤣😭🤦🏾♂️
Other than Mel you could tell everybody was kinda uncomfortable with him continuing to joke about it 🤦🏿♂️
@@Darksyde-83 bro you do understand humor is not like your condoms at home, one size fits all? Grow up. It’s dark humor.
Your take on politics just shows how brainwashed we are. Camila Haris is the current CEO of the same political party that is running the things, nothing ever changes, she's just the ambassador. I think people need to start voting based on the progress they see not out of debates and promises
Completely agree with Joe on the vibe Tyla gives off, I've been feeling that way long before the Usher or the VMA thing. Every clip of her engaging anyone non-African, she verbally or physically expresses disgust, discomfort, or disappointment. On the African music point, I have ZERO cultural experience/connection with Africa and and the genres that originate from there, but 5 years ago I had Koffee's covers of Burna Boy's "Ye" to close out my wedding ceremony as me and the wife walked out the chapel. She's crazy to think "Water" is the proof African music can be globally successful.
She saying AFRICAN MUSIC can be Pop, Water is Amapiano not Afrobeats. Grouping two sounds from different countries from a whole continent that has their own sounds under a umbrella from only ONE country(nigeria) is doing it a disservice. I'm South African, we've been trying to go international for atleast a decade w our music, we thought our version of Hip Hop would, it didn't, we thought Gqom(on Beyonce Lion King album & a scene in Black Panther) would do it, it didn't also. This time w Amapiano we have a shot so she's just representing that. Africa is obviously not a monolith so lets celebrate sounds from different countries and cultures as you guys do w regional sounds and its unique contributions to whatever specific genre
@@nduduzomanzi7797makes zero difference to my point, you've written an irrelevant essay
And what you wrote initially would be considered what exactly...? Actually nvm, you got it. Makes even more sense why you agree w Joe🤣.
I agree. It’s easy to blame Vanity and say it’s hate. It’s a. Easy cop out for people who are fans I feel she’s talented but something about the way she acts is off putting and it’s okay to vocalize that.
The TYLA segment was a hard watch NGL. Joe kept piss*ng me tf off
Nah he’s got a point. Either way you look at it, coming overseas into a new soundscape and not knowing who their greats are as far as multimedia and broadcasting, just seems like it could be a misstep, or in an extreme case, a superiority move. Asking someone who was headlining AAA movies when you were in diapers to hold your funky ass VMA award is nauseatingly disrespectful, doesn’t matter if Tyla or any other artist did it.
if beyonce can hold 6 grammys at once she can hold 1 award - no more needs to be said and if you understand you get it
@@jaccl4539 I agree. That was nasty work. Like girl…you just got here. Like Joe said, “let her be around for a minute”. She been hot for half a year, and now she can’t hold one award? Billie Eilish CLEANED 🧼 the Grammys and held 6️⃣ awards at once. She was like what, 17?
@@lvduffels Let’s just ignore the usher discussion and head right to the award discussion. Nice try Diddy
@@forbszhilah8052 bro I didn’t mention the usher discussion because I don’t have any opinion on usher. I didn’t grow up listening to him, looking up to him, I thought his songs were super simple and I think he wasn’t really the person he presented to the world. Doesn’t mean I hate him, but I have no clue what happened at that award show, because I didn’t watch Usher perform.
i have a theory that tyla rejected joe budden for something or some how , he so salty
I just got up to start my banana bread. I’m making one with walnuts and raisins and one with walnuts and dark Ghirardelli 60% chocolate 🍫 to go with my coffee.
That sounds delicious.
Joe’s gripe with Tyla is the same issue most black Africans have with mixed Africans.
My g I see you haven’t clapped them Huns yet 🤣🤣 they just a different culture that’s all
@@sinongemasiliso794 as a African, i disagree with this so much. Tyla didn’t say anything wrong, infact she’s right to highlight that Amapiano isn’t Afrobeats, they are two different things. she was right to refuse Usher trying to dance with her because Joe & the cast said Keke Palmer wasn’t supposed to allow it because it’s disrespectful to her man.
it’s funny how Joe and whoever’s tweet that was a failing to understand that she’s not from America to understand American culture or customs & that she’s from a different culture with different customs which she has to respect. just a weird & hateful take from him.
@@sinongemasiliso794 kinda, but like how Mel said coming to American (lol) is very nuanced when getting used to stuff, I think of Tylas entrance to the music scene the same way. Things she does may seem insensitive to us over here, but I don’t think she shouldn’t be held accountable for it. If she’s acting aloof and using the fact that she’s new to the scene as a means to feel superior in secret, well, that’ll be the first time anybody’s done that, right? So my question is, at what point do we begin to set the standards of entry for the industry, seeing as how most musicians are creating “black music” now?
Say what you want and everything else aside...Flip is very much needed...he brings a chaotic energy that Joe can feed of and control. (controlled chaos...the shows magic trick)......his energy forces his co host to come out of their comfort zone
Agreed! They don’t want to admit it. Hes a good balance
This is junior speaking right?
No nigga no… flip pushing 40 w a family and can’t pull an authentic thought out of his head.. it’s crazy.
Even if it is, he aint wrong @DashDapper
Joe has a nasty hate for Tyla and it’s very telling. That Usher take is nuts, whole cast telling him he sounds nuts and he just gets louder. How you mad this young girl has boundaries and real confidence instead of that fake bravado
The Tyla segment was a really hard listen it’s been hard to listen to Joe when it pertains to foreign cultures he sounded very ignorant today and I was happy the cast made him stand alone in that and checked him
Tyla is 22/23 and Joe on his big platform calling her a b**ch and spouting that he don’t like her (it’s clearly cause she’s Indian) his son is the same age and was on here saying show grace to young artists.
Tyla is an African woman and millions of fans on the African continent she is acc a big deal whether you Americans (Joe) like it or not - she isn’t an afrobeats artist which is what she says in her acceptance speech but you guys (Americans) force all Africans into the afrobeats catergory and somehow that’s her fault for pointing out where you lot messed up?