Hi Ian. This is by far one of the best videos I saw with fundamentals instructions for 2nd serve (being a slice or a kick serve). Thanks for sharing this info, I will use the drill mentioned in the video to try to improve my 2nd serves!
Excellent video, Ian. Love the progressions. I've always found that to be the best way to master something complex.. break it down into individual things that you then string together. Many years ago my daughter's coach was teaching her the kick serve and he explained the final motion all at once -- it was too much information to absorb, and she hadn't internalized the reason for each aspect, let alone the technique. She eventually developed an effective kick serve... with a different coach!
Best explanation I've heard yet about how spin affects the trajectory of the ball in flight: high pressure created on the side of the spin direction and low pressure on the other side. Really helpful. Thanks. Would love to hear a corresponding description of the effect spin has on the movement at the point of contact between the ball and the court surface.
Great progressions! Actual tennis pros can't explain what they are doing....as they have been doing it from they were 4 years old 😂 Thanks for breaking it down, Ian!
@@EssentialTennis I put it into practice that same day and I saw a big difference when doing your recommendations! Many thanks! Cheers from Mexico City!
Let’s go! I just started working on the kick serve today. I hit about a hundred balls and 2 of them looked like really good kick serves. I’ll take it 😂
Good video I like the idea of swing past the ball. The problem with kick serves isn't just the technique its that if you don't have a powerful serve - they are too slow.
Brilliant video, accompanied with superb production quality. Truly Platinum content. This channel should be at 1M sub level. Comon RUclips algo, get on with it. Cheers, M
Thank you for showing me why I've been struggling to get the ball to kick, I've been rotating at the same time as hitting the ball instead of after. One question though, should the ball be hit above the head of just in front of it? I find if I hit the ball over my head, my racket has not fully pronated, this makes the ball slice with a flat serve swing path.
Directly over head is far enough to make plenty of topspin! I don't recommend trying to go any further than that, takes a ton more balance and strength without much upside.
Even in a heavy topspin/kick serve, there's much more sidespin than topspin. They measured Pete Sampras' kick serve and the topspin component was only 35% of his total spin. If you want to hit a pure topspin serve, the racquet's long axis has to be completely horizontal at contact, which is impossible for an overhead serve.
Brushing up the back of the ball is just a nice place for people to start, it doesn't matter if you're going through at an angle. You also say you don't like the 7-2 path idea but then quote it several times afterwards, confusing stuff
Great video, Ian. As usual. Your new series is soooo great! BUT... Criticising other coaches and showing Simon as an example of a bad coach was condescending and completely unnecessary. There was nothing wrong with his explanation (I've just watched it) and throwing accusations at him left a lot of bad taste. I'm disappointed. BTW, what happened to Simon's comment? It was here a few minutes ago, but when I refreshed the page it disappeared.
I'm sorry that the commentary in this video comes off AT ALL like I'm saying Simon gave bad information. An editor grabbed that clip as an example of a coach talking about the "7 to 2" concept, not because it was an example of incorrect coaching. The words I'm saying during that part of the video make it pretty clear which is which, and I didn't name anybody giving bad information, but I completely understand how it could be thought that I'm criticizing him indirectly. It wasn't the intention of the lesson at all. Yes, Simon commented saying he was really disappointed with the use. I apologized and offered to talk about it. He removed the comment shortly after I replied. I'm going to pin this comment so viewers have an explanation/context.
Lesson learnt - it's never a good idea to criticise anybody and show your direct competitors on the screen. It's very easy to run into issues, even if you have good intentions. Your videos are well made, exceptionally high quality, you are a GREAT coach (of the 3 best on youtube in my opinion, but I will keep the other 2 names for myself). Just explain the things your way and people will immediately recognise the quality of your coaching. Technique can be explained in many different ways and what works for one person, doesn't necessarily work for another. If there is nothing fundamentally wrong with someone's teaching, better to refrain from comment.
Instead of apologizing and removing your video! You putting a blame on your team for coping the title and using Coach Simon footage !!! Now we can see your real personality ! Never watching your videos again !!!!!!
Here's my favorite drills to learn a smooth, natural service motion: ruclips.net/video/FKtqaKjZVPs/видео.html
This is the best explanation/visualization of a kick serve I've ever seen.
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Hi Ian. This is by far one of the best videos I saw with fundamentals instructions for 2nd serve (being a slice or a kick serve). Thanks for sharing this info, I will use the drill mentioned in the video to try to improve my 2nd serves!
This channel is a gold mine. Greetings from Argentina
Thanks for your support!
Excellent video, Ian. Love the progressions. I've always found that to be the best way to master something complex.. break it down into individual things that you then string together. Many years ago my daughter's coach was teaching her the kick serve and he explained the final motion all at once -- it was too much information to absorb, and she hadn't internalized the reason for each aspect, let alone the technique. She eventually developed an effective kick serve... with a different coach!
Best explanation I've heard yet about how spin affects the trajectory of the ball in flight: high pressure created on the side of the spin direction and low pressure on the other side. Really helpful. Thanks. Would love to hear a corresponding description of the effect spin has on the movement at the point of contact between the ball and the court surface.
Glad this was helpful!
Great progressions! Actual tennis pros can't explain what they are doing....as they have been doing it from they were 4 years old 😂 Thanks for breaking it down, Ian!
You're so right RE elite level players.
Best kick serve video I’ve seen 👏👏👏 Amazingly well explained!
Glad it was helpful!
@@EssentialTennis I put it into practice that same day and I saw a big difference when doing your recommendations! Many thanks! Cheers from Mexico City!
God bless you Ian for creating this video. This is exactly what I needed to watch right now. 😊
easily the best kick serve content ever created
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Let’s go! I just started working on the kick serve today. I hit about a hundred balls and 2 of them looked like really good kick serves. I’ll take it 😂
Great video Ian! Nicely done!!
Good video I like the idea of swing past the ball. The problem with kick serves isn't just the technique its that if you don't have a powerful serve - they are too slow.
You're right, didn't have time to get into that in this lesson, but huge racquet head speed is needed to make a ball really KICK.
Brilliant video, accompanied with superb production quality.
Truly Platinum content. This channel should be at 1M sub level. Comon RUclips algo, get on with it.
Cheers,
M
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about using venus' clip as background of "misconceptions and bad advice"
Looks like u are back on track, I like the set up and style. Keep it up, greetz from Austria.
Thanks!
Thank you for showing me why I've been struggling to get the ball to kick, I've been rotating at the same time as hitting the ball instead of after. One question though, should the ball be hit above the head of just in front of it? I find if I hit the ball over my head, my racket has not fully pronated, this makes the ball slice with a flat serve swing path.
Directly over head is far enough to make plenty of topspin! I don't recommend trying to go any further than that, takes a ton more balance and strength without much upside.
@@EssentialTennis thanks
Even in a heavy topspin/kick serve, there's much more sidespin than topspin. They measured Pete Sampras' kick serve and the topspin component was only 35% of his total spin. If you want to hit a pure topspin serve, the racquet's long axis has to be completely horizontal at contact, which is impossible for an overhead serve.
I don't think it's impossible....but it would be incredibly awkward 😆
Brushing up the back of the ball is just a nice place for people to start, it doesn't matter if you're going through at an angle. You also say you don't like the 7-2 path idea but then quote it several times afterwards, confusing stuff
Great video, Ian. As usual. Your new series is soooo great!
BUT...
Criticising other coaches and showing Simon as an example of a bad coach was condescending and completely unnecessary. There was nothing wrong with his explanation (I've just watched it) and throwing accusations at him left a lot of bad taste. I'm disappointed.
BTW, what happened to Simon's comment? It was here a few minutes ago, but when I refreshed the page it disappeared.
I'm sorry that the commentary in this video comes off AT ALL like I'm saying Simon gave bad information. An editor grabbed that clip as an example of a coach talking about the "7 to 2" concept, not because it was an example of incorrect coaching. The words I'm saying during that part of the video make it pretty clear which is which, and I didn't name anybody giving bad information, but I completely understand how it could be thought that I'm criticizing him indirectly. It wasn't the intention of the lesson at all.
Yes, Simon commented saying he was really disappointed with the use. I apologized and offered to talk about it. He removed the comment shortly after I replied. I'm going to pin this comment so viewers have an explanation/context.
Lesson learnt - it's never a good idea to criticise anybody and show your direct competitors on the screen. It's very easy to run into issues, even if you have good intentions.
Your videos are well made, exceptionally high quality, you are a GREAT coach (of the 3 best on youtube in my opinion, but I will keep the other 2 names for myself). Just explain the things your way and people will immediately recognise the quality of your coaching. Technique can be explained in many different ways and what works for one person, doesn't necessarily work for another. If there is nothing fundamentally wrong with someone's teaching, better to refrain from comment.
Thanks great info
Best explenation ever
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Is Venus video a bad advice on kick serve?
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Did you teach your student to pronate before teaching how to hit a top spin serve? Very nice video by the way!
No, I think pronation should be passive/unconscious as often as possible.
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Broooooo, stop copying other coaches LOL
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.
good coaches copy good coaches
I can teach her how to produce a real kick serve within 10 mins
On paper, yes, but will she be able to actually do it?
What a nonsense! There is no slice in kick serve at all. What an amateur!
I agree. His spin direction vector is that of a topspin slice not kick serve.
Instead of apologizing and removing your video! You putting a blame on your team for coping the title and using Coach Simon footage !!! Now we can see your real personality ! Never watching your videos again !!!!!!
Thanks for your feedback, best wishes.
@@EssentialTennisbest tennis channel out there, I bought your book and listened to it too ❤