The main thing in deciding for me was that I could get the G for just under 300 Canadian vs the X and just under 400 Canadian. Pay 75% of the price for 95% the performance? Yep.
Hey there In india g costs 25000rs and X costs 23500 but here due to shortage of gpu's prices of gpu are thrice and i dont have money to purchase gpu so what should i buy 5600g or 5600x with display card....i am thinking to buy g cozz there's not that much difference
Basically, unless you're an esport maniac with a 360Hz screen, it's a good choice. Thanks for this, especially in this dark time when an APU is the only saving grace we had in DIY build.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case. The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no? Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS: Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness Fortnite DX12 90FPS Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS so.... The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :) In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
@@ancientslav4863 The graphics isn't vega, it's radeon graphics with 7 core and 8 core. Atm I'm confused if I should buy a 11400 and save some money for the upcoming 'budget' gpu lineup from all the big3. Or just take a 5600g and be at peace until I can buy a 'closer to msrp' gpu. (I work with architectural renderings and a good gpu is a must have)
@@akibahmed1956 from reliable sources, cards won't be at good prices throughout entire 2022 and even maybe 2023. If you can't get a gpu, for gaming, your only option is 5600g and 5700g, cause they have the strongest igpus in the world right now. And I don't get whatdzt you mean. Amd says the 5600g has vega 7 and 5700g has vega 8. It's just a naming...
@@ancientslav4863 Apparently ethereum proof of stake should release in June and that'll hopefully, probably, lower gpu prices to their msrp. Fingers crossed.
I've been searching for a comparison like this. if the G version is almost the same performance as the X, its a good choice and much cheaper and you have an iGPU incase the absence of a GPU.
if you watch gamer's nexus video the 5600x shows more improvement around 10%. His test are extremely gpu bound so won't show the full extent of how far teh 5600x will go compared to the 5600g.
@@profesercreeper keep in mind that 5600X supports PCIe4 whereas 5600G is stuck with PCIe3 not to mention the former has more cache compared to the latter.
@@alrecks619 pcie does not matter since most people wont pair this cpu with a rtx 4090 lol, rtx 3060 is more better comparison because pcie does not affect its performance what's so ever, cache though might be a problem when playing CPU intense games i guess
@Iwobos it does have problem with power consumption and chipset gear, but once u tune the bios get proper ram speed u good to go, it just not worth it getting 5600x, unless u re aspiring Professional eSport player that play CS or Valorant
@@lirokangaming6937 true, but shortages are bad since they re sold so fast, week ago it was 170 but now its 250, 80$ price bump, hvae to wait a month or 2
This video made me pull the trigger to get the 5600g and so far I am very happy with it. When GPU prices stop being so stupidly high I may get me one, but for now the integrated graphics are fine for my needs. Thanks Brett!
Smart choice. Difference between the two cpus is too minimal to notice. Plus one is an APU, in case something happens to your GPU, you have backup. Too many wins and money saved against a slight performance upgrade in the X version.
@@knxqDeontae i know its been 4 months but you should really pair your cpu with an rtx 3060, the ryzen 5600g is almost the same as the x when using a 3060
I'm thinking this could be a good upgrade option for my unraid server when they finally release it. Extra cores would let me run more VM's. I have a 2400G and its been great up to now.
I wanted to get a Ryzen 3 3100 cant find one. Spotted a 5600G for less than two hundred $ along with Zen3 things looked promising. I plan to pair this with a Nvidia GTX 970. After watching this video I went with the 5600G for 1080 gaming. The video was helpful in decision making. Thumbs up.
Thank you so much for this information, built my PC back in the GPU shortage era, and now that I bought my GPU wanted to see if I really needed to change my processor, but it seems for what I do it won't matter, so my wallet is happy
One thing people seem to say about Intel V AMD is that G series APUS are "worse" than non Apu AMD chips but people forget that almost all Intel Chips albeit F series ones come with onboard graphics. Also with a G series AMD chip it gives you a kind of GPU insurance so you can trouble shoot / sell current GPU while waiting for new one / Just more options 👍 thanks for the content !
Plus these APUs are pretty beefy. I used my PC without a graphics card and with a 5600g for like two months and there's just so much stuff to play. I was playing games with DuckStation and PCSX2, plus RPCS3 is mostly CPU bound and you can run games like MGS4 without a GPU. On a budget this CPU is a best, now I'm using a RTX 3060 and it still provides rock solid performance in pretty much anything
if you dont have any dedicated graphics card and you are fine with a slightly better performance than a GT 1030 - the 5600G is the way to go. Even if you have a dedicated GPU the 5600G is still a decent CPU that deliveres about 10% less CPU performance, but at a 25% price discount.
If you want to play new AAA releases then the 5600g is not going to be useful to you, but if you want to dabble in emulation and retro gaming it's a great value
Very interesting. Thanks for the test data. I suspect most of the difference in Valorant is down to the PCIe 4.0 interface, actually. When you get to super high framerates like that is when you run into the I/O bottleneck across the bus.
It has nothing to do with pcie, most systems can barely saturate the pcie 3.0 speeds. It's the fact that the 5600G has only half the cache so it has to fetch data more often and delays operations
@@azazelleblack others have already done so for me. you need a 3090 to get even close to 100% saturation of the PCIE 3.0 16x bandwith. this APU is not even close to that amount of processing power. are you gonna explain why i'm mistaken according to you?
The best part is that you can actually overclock the iGPU over 2000Mhz easily and together with good/fast DRAM it reaches out to GTX1050 Ti performances in some games i tried. Espescially with the latest BIOS updates this iGPU has been getting a lot more smoother as well.
You may like to try the 5600g with ddr4 4400 ram, fclk set to 2200mhz. the x can't run fclk like that. you might find that you get a machine with a different character.
@@spakeschannel not if you manually set fclk to 2200 for the APU. it runs 1:1. The memory controller on the APUs is not the same as the controller in the 3600x.
@@TheSilviu8x what? the /g chip has the memory controller on the 7nm monolithic silicon, the x is on the io die. the ?G chips will clock fclk to 2200 and thew X chips struggle to get 1900. that all has a bearing on bandwidth available for memory transfers
Thanks for the video, I just purchased the 5 5600G. I also bought the B550 Gaming X V2 MOBO. I am not sure about what to expect. I am going to have to take the MOBO out of the case and do the QFlash first then put it back into the case. I watched a video on how to make a flash drive and have done it, guess the only thing left to do is take the MOBO out of the case and hook up an PSU to it.
yep, that's why I will get a 6700xt instead of the 6600xt. I can always get a better CPU if i want/need to. If I want a better CPU than the R5-5600g $120, I'm going to go big, and get at least a R7-5700x $210.
You've also got to remember if you get a GPU and start gaming at 1440p you're going to see that already small performance difference disappear especially if you overclock the 5600g a little
@@ironplatypus7393 yeah man should be fine. The cpu certainly won't be whats holding you back anyways. Don't expect over 100fps for aaa titles but you do always have the option of reducing render scale or graphics settings in those situations
@@ironplatypus7393 Hey. Are there any compatibility issues between the APU and your 2070? I have a rx 6600 and was thinking of getting the 5600g. But I have heard that sometimes there are issues with having a dedicated GPU and an APU together.
Thank you . This is one of the best comparison I've ever seen I saw lots of videos they were showing that there is difference from 20 - 50 fps between 5600X and 5600G in all the games , that was unrealistic
I know it is 4 months late but the 20-50fps difference is when avg frame rate is like over 300-400fps if your target is 60-120fps thats like give or take 5-9fps.
If we're looking at a mid grade GPU like the RTX 3060 (which is not that impressive actually) the difference won't be much. Although, getting 100-200 fps on fortnite and "low" fps numbers in most of the benchmarks just won't be enough to force a realistic CPU bottleneck. Get games like Far Cry 5, Civilization VI, and maybe try to push like 100+ fps in all games, because the real difference always comes when the FPS targets are higher (this, in terms of CPU and RAM), and for "lower" FPS values almost any recent CPU will suffice
259 is kinda high, but the 3400g goes for 200+ now. Even the older ones are stupid high. I hope that there are plenty of of this on the market, if not the x is everywhere near me, msrp priced also!
I wish I had bought the 5600 or 5600X instead of G because the G version has half the L3 cache. I didn't realize that before I purchased it. It should be called the 5500G. False advertising it is.
The PCIe 4.0 support that the X has, is huge future-proofing. If you can get the X within 50 dollars more of the G then it's definitely worth it to get the X, in my opinion... of course, the G also has GPU chip in it and for very basic gaming you would do even without a GPU then...
There is no such thing as future-proofing. By the time you need it, everything you have is obsolete anyway. I thought I was future proofing a couple of years ago when I went for a high-end motherboard. But now AMD is obsoleting socket A4 and going to A5.
Is there a reason they didn’t include the whole 32mb of cache? Is it because it would take up too much die space when they also have an igpu in the package? Also maybe its only pcie gen 3 to work at lower power targets that system integrators, and oem’s would prefer?
I recently bought a Phanteks G360A tower so I can finally build a PC & since I'm on a budget (will upgrade to even better specs in the future), I was thinking of the 5600G for an actual graphics card, I at least want a RTX 3060 but that's like $300+
The only fundamental difference between both CPUs as far as gaming is concerned is that, the X version does a lot better in CPU intensive games and for GPU intensive games, there's only little to none difference.
Hello UFD Tech. Thanks for this video. It gave me a lot of ideas on how and which processor I will choose to build my own gaming pc. New subscriber here... Hoping for more videos like this. I have a tight budget so I will choose R5 5600G for now...
120 vs 130 is pretty much a draw. Percentage is misleading sometimes. 200 vs 400... I don't think you can tell the difference even with a 360 Hz monitor.
Hmmm... Interesting. I'm going to put together a new PC because my old FX 8320e CPU is getting pretty dated. I'm going to keep my GPU for a while. It's a GTX 1070. This video makes me think the 5600g would be plenty for now. Thanks.
@@intermilan9731 To be honest, for gaming, I built a PC with a Ryzen 7 5700G and put the 1070 in for a comparison and it wasn't really any better than the 8320e. I did upgrade the GPU though. First a 6700XT and then a 3080. Much better now. lol
5600G is great, I have bought 3 of them for different computers. I have bought Zero 5600X and I will tell you why...the 5600 non x came out and I have bought two of the non x. Why buy the Non X? Because it's PCIe4, not that I care about NVME4 drives, I would never notice the speed difference, but PCIe4 graphics cards work better with PCIe4 board and CPU. Lastly, I own an RX6800 and I could see slightly more difference. the 5600 non X is the lowest on the chain of Ryzen PCIe4 processors. 5500 is not PCIe4 as it has been mistakenly reported in a few places I saw. [edit] Just bought another 5600 nonX, couldn't resist newegg for $129 after $10 promotion.
Considering the price difference, still might get the 5600G. Right now it's $230 vs $299. I wonder if they had the same clocks what the Valorant difference would have been. I'm sure that cache was the big factor in the 50%, but I wonder how much of it.
Recently bought a 5600g with a 3070ti build 32gb or ram averaging 200fps on valorant If you have the extra $70 to spend would recommend the 5600x, looking at benchmarks alone you see a massive difference for $70
thanks for the info, this is my exact dilema and u helped me choose. 5600x so i can have some future proofing as speed is my thing as Im moving up from an 17 2600 prebuilt from futurshop from 2011
I realize this is an old video but something I hear no one talking about is the fact that you can clock ram about 1000 GHZ faster on the 5600g than the 5600x resulting in about a 37% ram bandwidth boost over the 5600x. This can cause for fps improvement in games such as spiderman where ram speed is the bottleneck.
I found a great price on a prebuilt system (even cheaper than picking the parts myself) and it wasn't like an OEM one with crappy propietary parts, it was basically a build where you picked what you wanted to go in it and they built it for you so I've got a good mobo etc and it had the 5600G, I got it then a month or so later when I got paid I added to it a 6750 XT and the 5600G is working great with it, there is no bottleneck and I'm getting 100% GPU utilisation. I see no reason to change, plus I got a back up if my GPU (god forbid) shits the bed.
What was power consumption differences? I'm looking to swap my 5600x for a 5600g since the monolithic nature has much lower idle power and likely quite a bit lower load power consumption.
imagine triple A esport title gets destroyed by some flash 3d unity looking game like valorant this is really confusing me on which I should get but still thank you for the comparison clarification it really helped me understand even for just a little bit but since I mostly play singeplayer I guess I'm going to 5600g
I just bought the 5600G for my sons computer, i think he will be happy with it, i bought a RX 6600 8GB and 16 GB 3200mhz to go with it+ a 24" Asus Tuff monitor with 1ms and 144hz. Then he can upgrade at a later stage i think it is a good beginner computer and my budget is pretty low.
We should not the fact that 5600G comes with Integrated Graphics and is sharing its memory rather than 5600X that is a single cpu with dedicated gpu needed
I picked up a 5600G for $119 American, bargain, back home they are asking £256 for some crazy reason. Wish I'd bought more than that and the 32GB Ripjaw V 3600 memory for $89, but I got what I needed. Unfortunately the $216 graphics card had jumped up in price over a week and when I got home it was equally ludicrous. So it's a good job I bought an APU and can just jump between that and GPUs as required.
Was the integrated graphics still enabled when testing red dead redemption and could it have gained by utilising the intergrated gpu as well as the 3060?
Yea, I came down here to see if anyone else had this question. I know directx 12 and vulkan are supposed to be able to utilize mixed GPU's in a non crossfire/sli type of way. The few benchmarks I have seen of the very few games that support the feature did not look promising. I do wonder if that is what is happening here though.
Just snagged one sealed new in the box for $80. Selling my 3600 / GT1030 DDR5 combo now. Hopefully I can make about $70-80 on CPU and $30-50 on GPU. Not much of an improvement but figured why not if I can sell what it replaces for more. It’s a bedroom 24/7 pc that must be next to silent for sleeping. Also I would imagine a little less power use.
Year later and it filtered down into the garage PC. Have a 5600X/6600XT/32gb/X570S in the bedroom now. 5600G is great for this shop use and at some point a extra GTX1080 will be dropped into it for the occasional game.
So I had a 5600x for a couple years with my trusty 3070. Everything ran ultra 1080 above 100fps on 99% of games. I took it out and bent some pins on it (RIP) like an idiot. Replaced and got a 5600g (completely by accident) everything still ran good but slight frame drops here and there. Hogwarts and starfield came out and it runs good on 75% of the game. The other 25% it would drop to 15-20 fps (even on low settings, it would not improve) so I stopped playing those two and only played what did work. This week I got the 5600x on sale, because heck it, I wanted to go back to it and 130 bucks is a steal. I can say hogwarts and starfield no longer go below 75fps. 5600g seems to have been the issue all along. I am whole once more
basically giving up 16MB cache for a VEGA so it depend if youre need igraphic or you need more cache for whatever reason for i see this as a win for consumer choices IF THEY CAN BUY IT!
i want to play rdr2 on my pc and currently the 5600g is only like $140 while the 5600x is like over $200 so i think ima pick up the g. thank you for the video!
The main thing in deciding for me was that I could get the G for just under 300 Canadian vs the X and just under 400 Canadian. Pay 75% of the price for 95% the performance? Yep.
Yeah I decided to get the G too because in finland it is 270€ vs the X for 330€.
@@kebabjaeger plus G version also has discrete graphics.
By the way how G version is working for you? are you using dicrete graphics?
And you can always underclock the GPU and overclock CPU if needed and probably having same results
Hey there
In india g costs 25000rs and X costs 23500 but here due to shortage of gpu's prices of gpu are thrice
and i dont have money to purchase gpu so what should i buy 5600g or 5600x with display card....i am thinking to buy g cozz there's not that much difference
@@tpb-unite1842 get the g until u can afford something discrete
Lol start to “spread its legs”. I think you meant “stretch it’s legs” or “spread it’s wings” lolololol
Haha yup
The 5600G is the one that spread its legs, it got f.ed by the 5600X lol
um you spread your legs to get rammed he wasnt wrong
😂😂 weird script writer
Basically, unless you're an esport maniac with a 360Hz screen, it's a good choice. Thanks for this, especially in this dark time when an APU is the only saving grace we had in DIY build.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
Fortnite DX12 90FPS
Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
so....
The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
@@ancientslav4863 The graphics isn't vega, it's radeon graphics with 7 core and 8 core. Atm I'm confused if I should buy a 11400 and save some money for the upcoming 'budget' gpu lineup from all the big3. Or just take a 5600g and be at peace until I can buy a 'closer to msrp' gpu. (I work with architectural renderings and a good gpu is a must have)
@@akibahmed1956 from reliable sources, cards won't be at good prices throughout entire 2022 and even maybe 2023. If you can't get a gpu, for gaming, your only option is 5600g and 5700g, cause they have the strongest igpus in the world right now. And I don't get whatdzt you mean. Amd says the 5600g has vega 7 and 5700g has vega 8. It's just a naming...
@@ancientslav4863 Apparently ethereum proof of stake should release in June and that'll hopefully, probably, lower gpu prices to their msrp. Fingers crossed.
@@wannieboy1834 and bitcoin should just be cancelled! :p
a lot of better and more efficient chains out there
I guess now we know why they named the L3 cache gamecache...
this is for you, league and csgo.
Did you say that sarcastically?
Yea and halving that totally kills the appeal for me.
@@yuhuibao1728 wdym?
@@andreaquino5596 bigger l3 cache benefits online games like league or csgo the most.
I've been searching for a comparison like this. if the G version is almost the same performance as the X, its a good choice and much cheaper and you have an iGPU incase the absence of a GPU.
if you watch gamer's nexus video the 5600x shows more improvement around 10%. His test are extremely gpu bound so won't show the full extent of how far teh 5600x will go compared to the 5600g.
@@profesercreeper keep in mind that 5600X supports PCIe4 whereas 5600G is stuck with PCIe3 not to mention the former has more cache compared to the latter.
@@alrecks619 Exactly why i go with the 5600x.
@@alrecks619 pcie does not matter since most people wont pair this cpu with a rtx 4090 lol, rtx 3060 is more better comparison because pcie does not affect its performance what's so ever, cache though might be a problem when playing CPU intense games i guess
All depends on your needs.
If you want an APU, get the 5600G.
If you already have a dedicated GPU _and_ it's half-decent or better, get the 5600X.
Yup. I bought a 5700G in an HP TP01-2066 for a use case where I needed no dedicated GPU. Got the whole PC for 582 bucks out the door.
*get the 11400F for nearly same performance at a $150 lower price
@Iwobos it does have problem with power consumption and chipset gear, but once u tune the bios get proper ram speed u good to go, it just not worth it getting 5600x, unless u re aspiring Professional eSport player that play CS or Valorant
@@lirokangaming6937 true, but shortages are bad since they re sold so fast, week ago it was 170 but now its 250, 80$ price bump, hvae to wait a month or 2
@Iwobos Problems? Such as?
Extra 40W to the power consumption which is nealy marginal?
Or higher TDP that a $50 cooler can easily handle?
Assuming the 5600G price (195) doesn't get jacked up on release, this is the best option
I read it's $250
@@acoachinlunacy9815 With FSR coming soon, it'll be even better !
They are on eBay for 700$
The msrp is supposed to be 260
@@acoachinlunacy9815 hmm where do you live? i got it for about $250 and i'm living in a third world country.
i choose 5600g for the igpu.
it is very useful as a back up plan when your dedicated gpu got issues.
This video made me pull the trigger to get the 5600g and so far I am very happy with it. When GPU prices stop being so stupidly high I may get me one, but for now the integrated graphics are fine for my needs. Thanks Brett!
Is this better than 12400f..bdw 12400f costs 30$ more
Smart choice. Difference between the two cpus is too minimal to notice. Plus one is an APU, in case something happens to your GPU, you have backup. Too many wins and money saved against a slight performance upgrade in the X version.
always good to have an apu in your system just in case you have graphics cards issues also helps with fault finding.
Dude u read my mind i was gonna do a build with r5 5600x but switched to the 5600g because i was using a used gtx 1070
@@knxqDeontae i know its been 4 months but you should really pair your cpu with an rtx 3060, the ryzen 5600g is almost the same as the x when using a 3060
@@astrolightingyt4531 thanks bro will do that as the next update
I'm thinking this could be a good upgrade option for my unraid server when they finally release it. Extra cores would let me run more VM's. I have a 2400G and its been great up to now.
Wait...the CPU differences are roughly 5-10%, but the 5600g is $40 CHEAPER and comes with an APU??
I wanted to get a Ryzen 3 3100 cant find one. Spotted a 5600G for less than two hundred $ along with Zen3 things looked promising. I plan to pair this with a Nvidia GTX 970. After watching this video I went with the 5600G for 1080 gaming. The video was helpful in decision making. Thumbs up.
Thank you so much for this information, built my PC back in the GPU shortage era, and now that I bought my GPU wanted to see if I really needed to change my processor, but it seems for what I do it won't matter, so my wallet is happy
One thing people seem to say about Intel V AMD is that G series APUS are "worse" than non Apu AMD chips but people forget that almost all Intel Chips albeit F series ones come with onboard graphics. Also with a G series AMD chip it gives you a kind of GPU insurance so you can trouble shoot / sell current GPU while waiting for new one / Just more options 👍 thanks for the content !
Plus these APUs are pretty beefy.
I used my PC without a graphics card and with a 5600g for like two months and there's just so much stuff to play.
I was playing games with DuckStation and PCSX2, plus RPCS3 is mostly CPU bound and you can run games like MGS4 without a GPU.
On a budget this CPU is a best, now I'm using a RTX 3060 and it still provides rock solid performance in pretty much anything
if you dont have any dedicated graphics card and you are fine with a slightly better performance than a GT 1030 - the 5600G is the way to go. Even if you have a dedicated GPU the 5600G is still a decent CPU that deliveres about 10% less CPU performance, but at a 25% price discount.
That different really is slight, it's almost exactly the same as a 1030.
If you want to play new AAA releases then the 5600g is not going to be useful to you, but if you want to dabble in emulation and retro gaming it's a great value
I bought the same prebuilt on Best Buy, and now it's no more available.
so did i
I was wandering how good the clip is too
You will continue to wander for all eternity
Very interesting. Thanks for the test data. I suspect most of the difference in Valorant is down to the PCIe 4.0 interface, actually. When you get to super high framerates like that is when you run into the I/O bottleneck across the bus.
It has nothing to do with pcie, most systems can barely saturate the pcie 3.0 speeds. It's the fact that the 5600G has only half the cache so it has to fetch data more often and delays operations
@@arcticowl1091 Well, you're mistaken. Sorry.
@@azazelleblack and do you have anything to say about why that is instead of just saying "no you're wrong"?
@@arcticowl1091 Do you?
@@azazelleblack others have already done so for me. you need a 3090 to get even close to 100% saturation of the PCIE 3.0 16x bandwith. this APU is not even close to that amount of processing power. are you gonna explain why i'm mistaken according to you?
I know there use to be a performance boost of sort back in the day when you paired APU with GPU. Shame this is no longer the case
The best part is that you can actually overclock the iGPU over 2000Mhz easily and together with good/fast DRAM it reaches out to GTX1050 Ti performances in some games i tried.
Espescially with the latest BIOS updates this iGPU has been getting a lot more smoother as well.
Absolutely wrong, it can never reach those performance, it is a GT 1030 equivalent according to PassMark and all the testing I've seen.
@@SanctusBacchus Uh i did it myself and i did get those performances ! So you are not right !
lol probably gtx 1050 close but not the Ti lol.
You may like to try the 5600g with ddr4 4400 ram, fclk set to 2200mhz. the x can't run fclk like that.
you might find that you get a machine with a different character.
Yeah, but that would mean using 2:1 gearing, which makes latency way worse, affecting overall performance quite substantially.
@@spakeschannel no, this is 1:1
@@spakeschannel not if you manually set fclk to 2200 for the APU. it runs 1:1.
The memory controller on the APUs is not the same as the controller in the 3600x.
@@bradmorri not sure about non being the same, other than integration, but it's much better because it's on 7nm tsmc node vs 12nm glofo.
@@TheSilviu8x what? the /g chip has the memory controller on the 7nm monolithic silicon, the x is on the io die. the ?G chips will clock fclk to 2200 and thew X chips struggle to get 1900. that all has a bearing on bandwidth available for memory transfers
normally i dont like tech channel but your explanation was pretty cool about the differences between both cpu's so heres your like and sub
I just bought a 5600x and rtx3060 prebuilt pc for $1624 today I’m glad I’m seeing this
Thanks for the video, I just purchased the 5 5600G. I also bought the B550 Gaming X V2 MOBO. I am not sure about what to expect. I am going to have to take the MOBO out of the case and do the QFlash first then put it back into the case. I watched a video on how to make a flash drive and have done it, guess the only thing left to do is take the MOBO out of the case and hook up an PSU to it.
How is it
Ryzen 5 5600G vs Core i5-10600K?
Honestly 180 for the ryzen 5600x
And 115 for the ryzen 5600g on a major budget for a friend I went with the 5600g it’s the cheapest cpu right now
yep, that's why I will get a 6700xt instead of the 6600xt. I can always get a better CPU if i want/need to. If I want a better CPU than the R5-5600g $120, I'm going to go big, and get at least a R7-5700x $210.
Just checked eBay in the US. Both the 5600g and 5600x can be had for about $120. The 5500 can be had for about $25 less.
You've also got to remember if you get a GPU and start gaming at 1440p you're going to see that already small performance difference disappear especially if you overclock the 5600g a little
i just ordered my 5600g. i have a 2070 and a 1440p monitor. should be good eh? for most games anyways ehj?
@@ironplatypus7393 yeah man should be fine. The cpu certainly won't be whats holding you back anyways. Don't expect over 100fps for aaa titles but you do always have the option of reducing render scale or graphics settings in those situations
@@ironplatypus7393 Hey. Are there any compatibility issues between the APU and your 2070? I have a rx 6600 and was thinking of getting the 5600g. But I have heard that sometimes there are issues with having a dedicated GPU and an APU together.
@@hikingbiker I haven't run into any issues with mine yet!
@@hikingbiker I have that exact setup now. Didn't have any issues, but I disabled IGPU in bios and got a performance increase.
As a single-player and 60 fps game title gamer, R5 5600G is the wisest buy I would boost over and over.
This video really cleared up a lot of questions that I had! Great video!
im really hyped for the future of integrated grphics design
Thank you . This is one of the best comparison I've ever seen
I saw lots of videos they were showing that there is difference from 20 - 50 fps between 5600X and 5600G in all the games , that was unrealistic
I know it is 4 months late but the 20-50fps difference is when avg frame rate is like over 300-400fps if your target is 60-120fps thats like give or take 5-9fps.
@@ML-fc3je Oh I didnt know that, thanks bro❤❤
If we're looking at a mid grade GPU like the RTX 3060 (which is not that impressive actually) the difference won't be much. Although, getting 100-200 fps on fortnite and "low" fps numbers in most of the benchmarks just won't be enough to force a realistic CPU bottleneck. Get games like Far Cry 5, Civilization VI, and maybe try to push like 100+ fps in all games, because the real difference always comes when the FPS targets are higher (this, in terms of CPU and RAM), and for "lower" FPS values almost any recent CPU will suffice
Can you directly play GPU intensive games with 5600G without an external graphic card(Ex: RTX 3060)?
@@vishwanathstorm not reallyz watch my most recent video with 20 games on the 5600G
*calling RTX 3060 a mid grade GPU in 2021*
@@vishwanathstorm depends on what you call GPU intensive. But generally no, it's about on the level of a 1030.
@@yeoldefoxeh254 understood. Thanks for the input.
I'm not sure "spread its legs" is quite what you meant to say.
259 is kinda high, but the 3400g goes for 200+ now. Even the older ones are stupid high. I hope that there are plenty of of this on the market, if not the x is everywhere near me, msrp priced also!
Considering the price, you should definitely go with the 5600g
can anyone just try 5600X "*ALONE*" in videogames
I wish I had bought the 5600 or 5600X instead of G because the G version has half the L3 cache. I didn't realize that before I purchased it. It should be called the 5500G. False advertising it is.
The PCIe 4.0 support that the X has, is huge future-proofing. If you can get the X within 50 dollars more of the G then it's definitely worth it to get the X, in my opinion... of course, the G also has GPU chip in it and for very basic gaming you would do even without a GPU then...
There is no such thing as future-proofing. By the time you need it, everything you have is obsolete anyway. I thought I was future proofing a couple of years ago when I went for a high-end motherboard. But now AMD is obsoleting socket A4 and going to A5.
No it's not. If anything, you are wasting money and a back up plan for a teeny bit of performance.
You both make very good points
@@Fred2-123 good point
@@intermilan9731 true indeed
if you can afford the crazy prices of gpu's right now id go with 5600x, if not, 5600g is better till you get one
This is really really helpful. I almost buy the G until you include Valorant benchmark. Now, I am planning to buy the X
putted simple : G allows you to boot wihtout a graphics card.
X is faster but no graphics so, if your graphics card dies, rip your system
cool comparison.. great info on the 5600g!
Is there a reason they didn’t include the whole 32mb of cache? Is it because it would take up too much die space when they also have an igpu in the package? Also maybe its only pcie gen 3 to work at lower power targets that system integrators, and oem’s would prefer?
My guess is to allow more physical and thermal headroom for the GPU.
I recently bought a Phanteks G360A tower so I can finally build a PC & since I'm on a budget (will upgrade to even better specs in the future), I was thinking of the 5600G
for an actual graphics card, I at least want a RTX 3060 but that's like $300+
The only fundamental difference between both CPUs as far as gaming is concerned is that, the X version does a lot better in CPU intensive games and for GPU intensive games, there's only little to none difference.
So i have an AMD ryzen 5 3600 is it worth it to upgrade to either one of these
Depending on the GPU that you have...
Hello UFD Tech. Thanks for this video. It gave me a lot of ideas on how and which processor I will choose to build my own gaming pc. New subscriber here... Hoping for more videos like this. I have a tight budget so I will choose R5 5600G for now...
Hey.... great comparison. Appreciate ya, Man.
in my case im saving up for a gpu and hence will be buying it after i make my pc. so should i get the x or g ?
Choose G, because you wont be able to use your newly built PC without any type of video card. Which incase of X version, it needs a dedicated one
120 vs 130 is pretty much a draw. Percentage is misleading sometimes. 200 vs 400... I don't think you can tell the difference even with a 360 Hz monitor.
good test. gotha say the square warm light is distracting to look at
Hard to "grow up" from gaming when gaming would just keep growing without us.. Might as well grow with it. I need to build a PC.
I think that to compare the L3 cache impact, testing both cpu at the same clockspeed might be a better idea.
The point is not to try and make it even the point is to show how they both perform out of the box.
I died when he said “spread its legs” at 6:20 because I’m pretty sure the expression is “spread its wings” 😭🤣🤣
Or "stretch its legs". I just happened to mix them together.
6:16 "spead its legs"?! Stretch its legs surely? :)
Great video BTW
I always wondered this. Thanks.
Good to see that you do the tests on more realistic bench
Ryzen 5 on B550
Unlike other RUclipsrs who test every chip on a High end X570 Board
Hmmm... Interesting. I'm going to put together a new PC because my old FX 8320e CPU is getting pretty dated. I'm going to keep my GPU for a while. It's a GTX 1070. This video makes me think the 5600g would be plenty for now. Thanks.
1070 is getting old
@@lootangshellhouse2506 Yeah but it's not $2000 and it competes with the 3060ti. Good enough for me and much better than my 980. lol
FX?
I thought my Ryzen 3 3200g was getting dated.
@@intermilan9731 To be honest, for gaming, I built a PC with a Ryzen 7 5700G and put the 1070 in for a comparison and it wasn't really any better than the 8320e. I did upgrade the GPU though. First a 6700XT and then a 3080. Much better now. lol
Dont forget FSR being rumored to support APUs
Does the 5600X have integrated graphics
No
In ryzen processors with the letter g, mean that they have integrated graphics, the letter x, which are ready for over clock
thank you so much this really help me out
Thanks alot, I have now decided to get the 5600g
Malcomb in the middle, taken me a while but that is who you remind me of
5600G is great, I have bought 3 of them for different computers. I have bought Zero 5600X and I will tell you why...the 5600 non x came out and I have bought two of the non x. Why buy the Non X? Because it's PCIe4, not that I care about NVME4 drives, I would never notice the speed difference, but PCIe4 graphics cards work better with PCIe4 board and CPU. Lastly, I own an RX6800 and I could see slightly more difference. the 5600 non X is the lowest on the chain of Ryzen PCIe4 processors. 5500 is not PCIe4 as it has been mistakenly reported in a few places I saw. [edit] Just bought another 5600 nonX, couldn't resist newegg for $129 after $10 promotion.
5600g goes on insane sales, so imo even if you have a gpu already its still worth trying
Appreciate the hard work 😊 to make this video.
Considering the price difference, still might get the 5600G. Right now it's $230 vs $299. I wonder if they had the same clocks what the Valorant difference would have been. I'm sure that cache was the big factor in the 50%, but I wonder how much of it.
Recently bought a 5600g with a 3070ti build 32gb or ram averaging 200fps on valorant If you have the extra $70 to spend would recommend the 5600x, looking at benchmarks alone you see a massive difference for $70
@@mattdev8021 Why you bought a 5600g with 3070ti, why not 5600x? I don't have a discrete GPU that is why I picked up 5600g but you had dgpu then why
@@callmetatan 🤣
thanks for the info, this is my exact dilema and u helped me choose. 5600x so i can have some future proofing as speed is my thing as Im moving up from an 17 2600 prebuilt from futurshop from 2011
The difference between G and X is too slight to be considered "future proof". You can get a Ryzen 7 and call that future proofing.
great comparison video man
I realize this is an old video but something I hear no one talking about is the fact that you can clock ram about 1000 GHZ faster on the 5600g than the 5600x resulting in about a 37% ram bandwidth boost over the 5600x. This can cause for fps improvement in games such as spiderman where ram speed is the bottleneck.
Thank you. This is just the video I needed.
I found a great price on a prebuilt system (even cheaper than picking the parts myself) and it wasn't like an OEM one with crappy propietary parts, it was basically a build where you picked what you wanted to go in it and they built it for you so I've got a good mobo etc and it had the 5600G, I got it then a month or so later when I got paid I added to it a 6750 XT and the 5600G is working great with it, there is no bottleneck and I'm getting 100% GPU utilisation. I see no reason to change, plus I got a back up if my GPU (god forbid) shits the bed.
👍🏼 great info bro
6:19 😳 I think you meant to say wings.
6:16 I don't think "spread its legs" is quiet the right term to use there........
Microcenter currently have the 5600g priced at $199. Is that a good deal over the 5600x priced at $279?
No spend the extra 80-70 if you’re playing cpu intensive games
I wanted to know how good the 5600g and 5700g are doing in msfs 2020 with the original vega chip in all settings.
What was power consumption differences? I'm looking to swap my 5600x for a 5600g since the monolithic nature has much lower idle power and likely quite a bit lower load power consumption.
imagine triple A esport title gets destroyed by some flash 3d unity looking game like valorant this is really confusing me on which I should get but still thank you for the comparison clarification it really helped me understand even for just a little bit but since I mostly play singeplayer I guess I'm going to 5600g
Thanks! I feel better about my buy of the 5600g. I got a 3060ti and looking forward to update my cpu, I need advice!
Thanks for making this sir!
I just bought the 5600G for my sons computer, i think he will be happy with it, i bought a RX 6600 8GB and 16 GB 3200mhz to go with it+ a 24" Asus Tuff monitor with 1ms and 144hz. Then he can upgrade at a later stage i think it is a good beginner computer and my budget is pretty low.
I get 4750 boosts at 80% utilization =) Guess they have improved things along the way
Damn AMD missed the mark not selling this, would have wanted to build another ITX system with InWin Chopin.
AMD stated they will be for sale fir DIY
Thank you for pairing the CPUs with a GPU that someone would probably pair them with. All other videos use 3090's.. lol
How's the Overcloking with the 5600G?
We should not the fact that 5600G comes with Integrated Graphics and is sharing its memory rather than 5600X that is a single cpu with dedicated gpu needed
Got my 5600x for 160 brand new so I couldn’t pass up on it. Paired w a RX 6600. So far so good.
I picked up a 5600G for $119 American, bargain, back home they are asking £256 for some crazy reason. Wish I'd bought more than that and the 32GB Ripjaw V 3600 memory for $89, but I got what I needed. Unfortunately the $216 graphics card had jumped up in price over a week and when I got home it was equally ludicrous. So it's a good job I bought an APU and can just jump between that and GPUs as required.
The GTX 1050 ti has the same price now that the Rx 570 had 4 years ago.
isn't the whole point of the 5600G for when you DON'T have a GPU?
Yes, but this video is about when you do eventually manage to get a gpu for your pc
Yes and no. You would be surprised by the amount of people that start with an APU and then upgrade to a dGPU
Was the integrated graphics still enabled when testing red dead redemption and could it have gained by utilising the intergrated gpu as well as the 3060?
Yea, I came down here to see if anyone else had this question. I know directx 12 and vulkan are supposed to be able to utilize mixed GPU's in a non crossfire/sli type of way. The few benchmarks I have seen of the very few games that support the feature did not look promising. I do wonder if that is what is happening here though.
The only thing that is better is the memory controller, 7nm tsmc on 5600g and 12nm glofo on 5600x.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Just snagged one sealed new in the box for $80. Selling my 3600 / GT1030 DDR5 combo now. Hopefully I can make about $70-80 on CPU and $30-50 on GPU. Not much of an improvement but figured why not if I can sell what it replaces for more. It’s a bedroom 24/7 pc that must be next to silent for sleeping. Also I would imagine a little less power use.
Year later and it filtered down into the garage PC. Have a 5600X/6600XT/32gb/X570S in the bedroom now. 5600G is great for this shop use and at some point a extra GTX1080 will be dropped into it for the occasional game.
So I had a 5600x for a couple years with my trusty 3070. Everything ran ultra 1080 above 100fps on 99% of games. I took it out and bent some pins on it (RIP) like an idiot. Replaced and got a 5600g (completely by accident) everything still ran good but slight frame drops here and there.
Hogwarts and starfield came out and it runs good on 75% of the game. The other 25% it would drop to 15-20 fps (even on low settings, it would not improve) so I stopped playing those two and only played what did work. This week I got the 5600x on sale, because heck it, I wanted to go back to it and 130 bucks is a steal. I can say hogwarts and starfield no longer go below 75fps. 5600g seems to have been the issue all along. I am whole once more
basically giving up 16MB cache for a VEGA
so it depend if youre need igraphic or you need more cache for whatever reason for
i see this as a win for consumer choices
IF THEY CAN BUY IT!
Thanks, looks like i'm going to be upgrading from the 2700 to the 5600x
I don't know why I will need a gpu with my 5600G ??? After 6 months or 1 year??? Everyone is saying it.....
This 5600G should have named 5500G instead, it's slower and less cache and less feature like PCIe 3.0
i want to play rdr2 on my pc and currently the 5600g is only like $140 while the 5600x is like over $200 so i think ima pick up the g. thank you for the video!