The main thing in deciding for me was that I could get the G for just under 300 Canadian vs the X and just under 400 Canadian. Pay 75% of the price for 95% the performance? Yep.
Hey there In india g costs 25000rs and X costs 23500 but here due to shortage of gpu's prices of gpu are thrice and i dont have money to purchase gpu so what should i buy 5600g or 5600x with display card....i am thinking to buy g cozz there's not that much difference
Basically, unless you're an esport maniac with a 360Hz screen, it's a good choice. Thanks for this, especially in this dark time when an APU is the only saving grace we had in DIY build.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case. The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no? Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS: Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness Fortnite DX12 90FPS Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS so.... The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :) In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
@@ancientslav4863 The graphics isn't vega, it's radeon graphics with 7 core and 8 core. Atm I'm confused if I should buy a 11400 and save some money for the upcoming 'budget' gpu lineup from all the big3. Or just take a 5600g and be at peace until I can buy a 'closer to msrp' gpu. (I work with architectural renderings and a good gpu is a must have)
@@akibahmed1956 from reliable sources, cards won't be at good prices throughout entire 2022 and even maybe 2023. If you can't get a gpu, for gaming, your only option is 5600g and 5700g, cause they have the strongest igpus in the world right now. And I don't get whatdzt you mean. Amd says the 5600g has vega 7 and 5700g has vega 8. It's just a naming...
@@ancientslav4863 Apparently ethereum proof of stake should release in June and that'll hopefully, probably, lower gpu prices to their msrp. Fingers crossed.
This was probably one of the easiest to understand and helpful videos I've watched when it comes to comparisons. You really made it easy to understand for new PC builders like myself, so thank you for that!
I went with the G despite the lack of pci-e 4. That iGPU is nice for redundancy if your GPU dies and you have to RMA it you can at least still use your PC
That's why I got G. Money saved and the slight performance in X is just not worth it. Especially since you also get graphics in G, in case of emergencies.
@@Johanleebert depend on what you play, the hardest my iGPU ever tried is when i played NFS Heat which i had to make it as low as possible to make it reach at least 30 fps, and that's not even stable. Tho if you play something like Valorant, you can run it pretty well. Other game I tested is Genshin Impact, i only played it at 1366x768 resolution at medium back then, sometimes it reach 60 sometimes they dont. I'm not good with benchmarking PC since that's mostlikely the game I played recently. I did play some other games, but i forgot how was it xD Oh and CS2, since it's competitive game the FPS is terrible for playing online, especially during smokes, and Anubis map
I've been searching for a comparison like this. if the G version is almost the same performance as the X, its a good choice and much cheaper and you have an iGPU incase the absence of a GPU.
if you watch gamer's nexus video the 5600x shows more improvement around 10%. His test are extremely gpu bound so won't show the full extent of how far teh 5600x will go compared to the 5600g.
@@profesercreeper keep in mind that 5600X supports PCIe4 whereas 5600G is stuck with PCIe3 not to mention the former has more cache compared to the latter.
@@alrecks619 pcie does not matter since most people wont pair this cpu with a rtx 4090 lol, rtx 3060 is more better comparison because pcie does not affect its performance what's so ever, cache though might be a problem when playing CPU intense games i guess
@Iwobos it does have problem with power consumption and chipset gear, but once u tune the bios get proper ram speed u good to go, it just not worth it getting 5600x, unless u re aspiring Professional eSport player that play CS or Valorant
@@lirokangaming6937 true, but shortages are bad since they re sold so fast, week ago it was 170 but now its 250, 80$ price bump, hvae to wait a month or 2
This video made me pull the trigger to get the 5600g and so far I am very happy with it. When GPU prices stop being so stupidly high I may get me one, but for now the integrated graphics are fine for my needs. Thanks Brett!
Smart choice. Difference between the two cpus is too minimal to notice. Plus one is an APU, in case something happens to your GPU, you have backup. Too many wins and money saved against a slight performance upgrade in the X version.
I'm thinking this could be a good upgrade option for my unraid server when they finally release it. Extra cores would let me run more VM's. I have a 2400G and its been great up to now.
Old reply but I also wanted to say that 5600G also has better temperatures than the 5600X. I went for the 5600G, it’s honestly a better choice as has more pros than cons when compared to 5600X.
@@knxqDeontae i know its been 4 months but you should really pair your cpu with an rtx 3060, the ryzen 5600g is almost the same as the x when using a 3060
Thank you so much for this information, built my PC back in the GPU shortage era, and now that I bought my GPU wanted to see if I really needed to change my processor, but it seems for what I do it won't matter, so my wallet is happy
I wanted to get a Ryzen 3 3100 cant find one. Spotted a 5600G for less than two hundred $ along with Zen3 things looked promising. I plan to pair this with a Nvidia GTX 970. After watching this video I went with the 5600G for 1080 gaming. The video was helpful in decision making. Thumbs up.
if you dont have any dedicated graphics card and you are fine with a slightly better performance than a GT 1030 - the 5600G is the way to go. Even if you have a dedicated GPU the 5600G is still a decent CPU that deliveres about 10% less CPU performance, but at a 25% price discount.
If you want to play new AAA releases then the 5600g is not going to be useful to you, but if you want to dabble in emulation and retro gaming it's a great value
The best part is that you can actually overclock the iGPU over 2000Mhz easily and together with good/fast DRAM it reaches out to GTX1050 Ti performances in some games i tried. Espescially with the latest BIOS updates this iGPU has been getting a lot more smoother as well.
This could be useful for people running Linux who want a gaming-only Windows virtual machine (gaming on Linux is getting better, but it still has a way to go). You can passthrough a dedicated GPU while still using your linux with the integrated one
One thing people seem to say about Intel V AMD is that G series APUS are "worse" than non Apu AMD chips but people forget that almost all Intel Chips albeit F series ones come with onboard graphics. Also with a G series AMD chip it gives you a kind of GPU insurance so you can trouble shoot / sell current GPU while waiting for new one / Just more options 👍 thanks for the content !
Plus these APUs are pretty beefy. I used my PC without a graphics card and with a 5600g for like two months and there's just so much stuff to play. I was playing games with DuckStation and PCSX2, plus RPCS3 is mostly CPU bound and you can run games like MGS4 without a GPU. On a budget this CPU is a best, now I'm using a RTX 3060 and it still provides rock solid performance in pretty much anything
If we're looking at a mid grade GPU like the RTX 3060 (which is not that impressive actually) the difference won't be much. Although, getting 100-200 fps on fortnite and "low" fps numbers in most of the benchmarks just won't be enough to force a realistic CPU bottleneck. Get games like Far Cry 5, Civilization VI, and maybe try to push like 100+ fps in all games, because the real difference always comes when the FPS targets are higher (this, in terms of CPU and RAM), and for "lower" FPS values almost any recent CPU will suffice
Thanks for the video, I just purchased the 5 5600G. I also bought the B550 Gaming X V2 MOBO. I am not sure about what to expect. I am going to have to take the MOBO out of the case and do the QFlash first then put it back into the case. I watched a video on how to make a flash drive and have done it, guess the only thing left to do is take the MOBO out of the case and hook up an PSU to it.
Today, it would be stupid to buy a CPU without an iGPU, so seeing that AMD finally did a sort-of comparable CPU with a iGPU is good. Hilarious that Intel did the inverse in recent years and launched CPUs without iGPUs but oh well.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case. The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no? Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS: Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness Fortnite DX12 90FPS Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS so.... The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :) In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
@@smallpcgaming7279 hi man. I sold that pc for 570$, and bought a 5600x, GTX960 4gb, 2x8 3600MHZ for 680$, sold it in a week for 800$ and the very next day got for 650$ a 8600K, gtx 1080, 2x8 3000MHZ and I am VERY FRICKING HAPPY 😀 I managed to play in 1080p cyberpunk 2077 high settings 60fps, fortnite all max 100fps, competitive high 270fps, Warzone high textures 140fps...I never had more that 90fps in warzone low in my life! And I even earned up 250$ from the pc swapping and I even got lots of stuff with it like adiditonal webcam and HDD and wifi adapter. And sold that too. What a buy!!! The guy selling me the GTX1080 pc wanted money quick as he had a laptop with rtx3070. Now I'm planing to sell that and get at least rx6800, Rtx2080ti or 3070..cause nothing else makes sense for just few fps more. A 2070, 3060 or even 2080 aren't a reasonable upgrade now for me. The 1080 is a 5 year old legend. And I got one of the best versions too
@@smallpcgaming7279 yesterday I took the gpu stock cooler form the gpu down and attached with zip ties two Arctic P12 PWM PST fans. In bios I have set a custom fan curve corresponding to cpu Temps. Before room Temps idle 37C and gaming 65C. Now 25/55C and super low noise since the fans spin max 1000RPM and are much bigger than stock gpu fans. Smallest are like the strix 3x fans. I don't like that. My Gainward has 2x10cm, but 2x12cm is much better. And it looks super cool. So industrious
Playing over 150FPS will not show any difference anyway, so it doesn't matter if one is 200 FPS and the other one is 600 FPS, you will feel no difference. The only difference you will feel is when your GPU is fried and the X system has no place to stick the monitor cable into :) I got the G for this reason alone, a backup to my GPU.
The only fundamental difference between both CPUs as far as gaming is concerned is that, the X version does a lot better in CPU intensive games and for GPU intensive games, there's only little to none difference.
Actually there's another difference Brett. A big one. One is cezanne which is a monolithic design and hence requires less cache and is more efficient but unable to scale the performance well to higher clockspeeds While the other, vermeer is the chiplet design that has higher power consumption and caceh requirements but it Can scale to higher clock speeds and is designed for a higher power consumption. 5600G is the same silicon that goes in the laptops.
You've also got to remember if you get a GPU and start gaming at 1440p you're going to see that already small performance difference disappear especially if you overclock the 5600g a little
@@ironplatypus7393 yeah man should be fine. The cpu certainly won't be whats holding you back anyways. Don't expect over 100fps for aaa titles but you do always have the option of reducing render scale or graphics settings in those situations
@@ironplatypus7393 Hey. Are there any compatibility issues between the APU and your 2070? I have a rx 6600 and was thinking of getting the 5600g. But I have heard that sometimes there are issues with having a dedicated GPU and an APU together.
Very interesting. Thanks for the test data. I suspect most of the difference in Valorant is down to the PCIe 4.0 interface, actually. When you get to super high framerates like that is when you run into the I/O bottleneck across the bus.
It has nothing to do with pcie, most systems can barely saturate the pcie 3.0 speeds. It's the fact that the 5600G has only half the cache so it has to fetch data more often and delays operations
@@azazelleblack others have already done so for me. you need a 3090 to get even close to 100% saturation of the PCIE 3.0 16x bandwith. this APU is not even close to that amount of processing power. are you gonna explain why i'm mistaken according to you?
Is there a reason they didn’t include the whole 32mb of cache? Is it because it would take up too much die space when they also have an igpu in the package? Also maybe its only pcie gen 3 to work at lower power targets that system integrators, and oem’s would prefer?
You may like to try the 5600g with ddr4 4400 ram, fclk set to 2200mhz. the x can't run fclk like that. you might find that you get a machine with a different character.
@@spakeschannel not if you manually set fclk to 2200 for the APU. it runs 1:1. The memory controller on the APUs is not the same as the controller in the 3600x.
@@TheSilviu8x what? the /g chip has the memory controller on the 7nm monolithic silicon, the x is on the io die. the ?G chips will clock fclk to 2200 and thew X chips struggle to get 1900. that all has a bearing on bandwidth available for memory transfers
So basically a 5% difference in performance. You could go with either. If you’re going to need to save up $1,000 for a graphics card the 5600G is a better choice because the computer will actually run.
been using my 5600g first with the iGPU then with rx6600 and then now 3070 and for games where my target is 60-120fps it still keeps pace. I don't think I will even think/need getting an "upgrade" (5800x) till the rtx5070 comes out lol.
259 is kinda high, but the 3400g goes for 200+ now. Even the older ones are stupid high. I hope that there are plenty of of this on the market, if not the x is everywhere near me, msrp priced also!
I recently bought a Phanteks G360A tower so I can finally build a PC & since I'm on a budget (will upgrade to even better specs in the future), I was thinking of the 5600G for an actual graphics card, I at least want a RTX 3060 but that's like $300+
The PCIe 4.0 support that the X has, is huge future-proofing. If you can get the X within 50 dollars more of the G then it's definitely worth it to get the X, in my opinion... of course, the G also has GPU chip in it and for very basic gaming you would do even without a GPU then...
There is no such thing as future-proofing. By the time you need it, everything you have is obsolete anyway. I thought I was future proofing a couple of years ago when I went for a high-end motherboard. But now AMD is obsoleting socket A4 and going to A5.
Well, you are comparing performance on AAA games that are really GPU bound and the bottleneck is the 3060, on CS go and Valorant that are really CPU bound, that's when you see the biggest difference, you need to use a RTX 3070 / 3080 or 6700XT to really show the true potencial and difference between the chips, 5600X is way faster then 5600G.
So, I can buy either one Intel Core i3-12100 or a Ryzen 5 5600G for €110 and €120 respectively. According to most critics and reviews, the performance of each processor is pretty similar to each other. Since the price is practically the same and the i3 is newer and more energy efficient, the catch is the fact that the 5600G has 6 cores instead of 4 and its graphics are probably a bit superior. Lastly, no matter what my choice is going to be, I have found two similarly priced motherboards for either processor. Your help would be appreciated!
Hmmm... Interesting. I'm going to put together a new PC because my old FX 8320e CPU is getting pretty dated. I'm going to keep my GPU for a while. It's a GTX 1070. This video makes me think the 5600g would be plenty for now. Thanks.
@@intermilan9731 To be honest, for gaming, I built a PC with a Ryzen 7 5700G and put the 1070 in for a comparison and it wasn't really any better than the 8320e. I did upgrade the GPU though. First a 6700XT and then a 3080. Much better now. lol
yep, that's why I will get a 6700xt instead of the 6600xt. I can always get a better CPU if i want/need to. If I want a better CPU than the R5-5600g $120, I'm going to go big, and get at least a R7-5700x $210.
Considering the price difference, still might get the 5600G. Right now it's $230 vs $299. I wonder if they had the same clocks what the Valorant difference would have been. I'm sure that cache was the big factor in the 50%, but I wonder how much of it.
Recently bought a 5600g with a 3070ti build 32gb or ram averaging 200fps on valorant If you have the extra $70 to spend would recommend the 5600x, looking at benchmarks alone you see a massive difference for $70
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case. The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no? Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS: Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness Fortnite DX12 90FPS Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS so.... The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :) In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
could you maybe do a small vid having the 5600g clocked equal to the 5600x? i want to know how much performance you can gain by clocking the 5600g equal to the x.
120 vs 130 is pretty much a draw. Percentage is misleading sometimes. 200 vs 400... I don't think you can tell the difference even with a 360 Hz monitor.
Was the integrated graphics still enabled when testing red dead redemption and could it have gained by utilising the intergrated gpu as well as the 3060?
Yea, I came down here to see if anyone else had this question. I know directx 12 and vulkan are supposed to be able to utilize mixed GPU's in a non crossfire/sli type of way. The few benchmarks I have seen of the very few games that support the feature did not look promising. I do wonder if that is what is happening here though.
5600G is great, I have bought 3 of them for different computers. I have bought Zero 5600X and I will tell you why...the 5600 non x came out and I have bought two of the non x. Why buy the Non X? Because it's PCIe4, not that I care about NVME4 drives, I would never notice the speed difference, but PCIe4 graphics cards work better with PCIe4 board and CPU. Lastly, I own an RX6800 and I could see slightly more difference. the 5600 non X is the lowest on the chain of Ryzen PCIe4 processors. 5500 is not PCIe4 as it has been mistakenly reported in a few places I saw. [edit] Just bought another 5600 nonX, couldn't resist newegg for $129 after $10 promotion.
What was power consumption differences? I'm looking to swap my 5600x for a 5600g since the monolithic nature has much lower idle power and likely quite a bit lower load power consumption.
I was thinking, wouldn't it be the other way around? Though, the 'its' could be referring to the 5600g, that the 5600x spreads the 5600g legs, because the 5600g got f... In that scenario.
My best guess is that the performance difference was due to PCIe speed in Valorent, since I read in my MSI B450 Tomahawk manual that using an APU will limit the primary PCIe slot to x8 speed. In addition, I have recently tested this on a Intel P55 platform where performance is greatly impacted in some games when having two different GPUs in the system. Have you tried disabling the Vega graphics in the BIOS before doing this test? I am looking to get a 5600G due to having the Integrated Graphics as a backup.
I have the 5 5600g in a Msi b450 A max pro with a 6700xt and the gpu-z program says its using the "pciex 4.0 x16 @ pciex 3.0 x16". So im guessing the performance difference is based on the 4.0 to 3.0 since its tiny mostly.
@@arcticowl1091 a bit late to the party Owl, and no you are actually wrong, I have purchased a Ryzen 5 5600 instead of Ryzen 5 5600G and the PCIe multiplier and extra L3 Cache makes a major difference, I have first hand experience through multiple systems and actually the PCIe issue is mentioned in the manual of the MSI B450 Tomahawk. On top of that, AMD and Intel designed their last GPU architectures around Resizable Bar which makes a focus on using all the PCIe bandwidth instead of transfer rates less than 512MB/s and it makes quite the difference for AMD and a considerable difference for intel. intel even recommends not buying an ARC GPU if your motherboard cannot enable reBAR. Before you say I do not know what I am talking about, I have done a BSc in Computing a few years ago, so think before you accuse people of being flatout wrong. Modern games are constantly streaming textures between GPU/RAM/CPU and being PCIe limited shows as 100% GPU utilization but less power draw, I have tested this extensively between motherboards that allow full x16 versus x8 PCIe speeds and also between L3 Cache differences of variant CPUs.
Generally curious, is it really worth getting the x for the bump in eSports titles when most monitors are doing 240hz or less? Just because it's getting those speeds doesn't mean you see the difference or am I crazy?
I build a pc wih a 5600g and a rx6600xt for my little brother to play minecraft and terraria mostly. I choose the 5600g because it was 40€ cheaper, consumes less power ,has ~94% the cpu power of a 5600x and most important for me, if the 6600xt dies he can still game on the pc
I realize this is an old video but something I hear no one talking about is the fact that you can clock ram about 1000 GHZ faster on the 5600g than the 5600x resulting in about a 37% ram bandwidth boost over the 5600x. This can cause for fps improvement in games such as spiderman where ram speed is the bottleneck.
I wish I had bought the 5600 or 5600X instead of G because the G version has half the L3 cache. I didn't realize that before I purchased it. It should be called the 5500G. False advertising it is.
I just bought the 5600G for my sons computer, i think he will be happy with it, i bought a RX 6600 8GB and 16 GB 3200mhz to go with it+ a 24" Asus Tuff monitor with 1ms and 144hz. Then he can upgrade at a later stage i think it is a good beginner computer and my budget is pretty low.
Just snagged one sealed new in the box for $80. Selling my 3600 / GT1030 DDR5 combo now. Hopefully I can make about $70-80 on CPU and $30-50 on GPU. Not much of an improvement but figured why not if I can sell what it replaces for more. It’s a bedroom 24/7 pc that must be next to silent for sleeping. Also I would imagine a little less power use.
Year later and it filtered down into the garage PC. Have a 5600X/6600XT/32gb/X570S in the bedroom now. 5600G is great for this shop use and at some point a extra GTX1080 will be dropped into it for the occasional game.
Quick question, what is responsible for giving u a higher fps by default? The graphics card? or the the processor or the ram? Working on building a gaming pc
Depends on the games you are playing, for example- CS:GO is a CPU game, which means that the GPU won't really affect the fps. In most of the games, the graphics card is responsible for giving fps
The main thing in deciding for me was that I could get the G for just under 300 Canadian vs the X and just under 400 Canadian. Pay 75% of the price for 95% the performance? Yep.
Yeah I decided to get the G too because in finland it is 270€ vs the X for 330€.
@@kebabjaeger plus G version also has discrete graphics.
By the way how G version is working for you? are you using dicrete graphics?
And you can always underclock the GPU and overclock CPU if needed and probably having same results
Hey there
In india g costs 25000rs and X costs 23500 but here due to shortage of gpu's prices of gpu are thrice
and i dont have money to purchase gpu so what should i buy 5600g or 5600x with display card....i am thinking to buy g cozz there's not that much difference
@@Cloud.str_1992 get the g until u can afford something discrete
Basically, unless you're an esport maniac with a 360Hz screen, it's a good choice. Thanks for this, especially in this dark time when an APU is the only saving grace we had in DIY build.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
Fortnite DX12 90FPS
Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
so....
The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
@@ancientslav4863 The graphics isn't vega, it's radeon graphics with 7 core and 8 core. Atm I'm confused if I should buy a 11400 and save some money for the upcoming 'budget' gpu lineup from all the big3. Or just take a 5600g and be at peace until I can buy a 'closer to msrp' gpu. (I work with architectural renderings and a good gpu is a must have)
@@akibahmed1956 from reliable sources, cards won't be at good prices throughout entire 2022 and even maybe 2023. If you can't get a gpu, for gaming, your only option is 5600g and 5700g, cause they have the strongest igpus in the world right now. And I don't get whatdzt you mean. Amd says the 5600g has vega 7 and 5700g has vega 8. It's just a naming...
@@ancientslav4863 Apparently ethereum proof of stake should release in June and that'll hopefully, probably, lower gpu prices to their msrp. Fingers crossed.
@@wannieboy1834 and bitcoin should just be cancelled! :p
a lot of better and more efficient chains out there
This was probably one of the easiest to understand and helpful videos I've watched when it comes to comparisons. You really made it easy to understand for new PC builders like myself, so thank you for that!
I went with the G despite the lack of pci-e 4. That iGPU is nice for redundancy if your GPU dies and you have to RMA it you can at least still use your PC
That's why I got G. Money saved and the slight performance in X is just not worth it. Especially since you also get graphics in G, in case of emergencies.
I have the opposite problem, Im waiting for my graphics card to be delivered so atleast I still have a usable pc while I wait
@@youdontneedtoknowthis177how's the gameplay? Is it Decent without an external GPU?
@@Johanleebert depend on what you play, the hardest my iGPU ever tried is when i played NFS Heat which i had to make it as low as possible to make it reach at least 30 fps, and that's not even stable. Tho if you play something like Valorant, you can run it pretty well.
Other game I tested is Genshin Impact, i only played it at 1366x768 resolution at medium back then, sometimes it reach 60 sometimes they dont.
I'm not good with benchmarking PC since that's mostlikely the game I played recently. I did play some other games, but i forgot how was it xD
Oh and CS2, since it's competitive game the FPS is terrible for playing online, especially during smokes, and Anubis map
This video does not address the thermals, which makes the G look even better.
I've been searching for a comparison like this. if the G version is almost the same performance as the X, its a good choice and much cheaper and you have an iGPU incase the absence of a GPU.
if you watch gamer's nexus video the 5600x shows more improvement around 10%. His test are extremely gpu bound so won't show the full extent of how far teh 5600x will go compared to the 5600g.
@@profesercreeper keep in mind that 5600X supports PCIe4 whereas 5600G is stuck with PCIe3 not to mention the former has more cache compared to the latter.
@@alrecks619 Exactly why i go with the 5600x.
@@alrecks619 pcie does not matter since most people wont pair this cpu with a rtx 4090 lol, rtx 3060 is more better comparison because pcie does not affect its performance what's so ever, cache though might be a problem when playing CPU intense games i guess
All depends on your needs.
If you want an APU, get the 5600G.
If you already have a dedicated GPU _and_ it's half-decent or better, get the 5600X.
Yup. I bought a 5700G in an HP TP01-2066 for a use case where I needed no dedicated GPU. Got the whole PC for 582 bucks out the door.
*get the 11400F for nearly same performance at a $150 lower price
@Iwobos it does have problem with power consumption and chipset gear, but once u tune the bios get proper ram speed u good to go, it just not worth it getting 5600x, unless u re aspiring Professional eSport player that play CS or Valorant
@@lirokangaming6937 true, but shortages are bad since they re sold so fast, week ago it was 170 but now its 250, 80$ price bump, hvae to wait a month or 2
@Iwobos Problems? Such as?
Extra 40W to the power consumption which is nealy marginal?
Or higher TDP that a $50 cooler can easily handle?
This video made me pull the trigger to get the 5600g and so far I am very happy with it. When GPU prices stop being so stupidly high I may get me one, but for now the integrated graphics are fine for my needs. Thanks Brett!
Is this better than 12400f..bdw 12400f costs 30$ more
Smart choice. Difference between the two cpus is too minimal to notice. Plus one is an APU, in case something happens to your GPU, you have backup. Too many wins and money saved against a slight performance upgrade in the X version.
I guess now we know why they named the L3 cache gamecache...
this is for you, league and csgo.
Did you say that sarcastically?
Yea and halving that totally kills the appeal for me.
@@yuhuibao1728 wdym?
@@andreaquino5596 bigger l3 cache benefits online games like league or csgo the most.
I'm thinking this could be a good upgrade option for my unraid server when they finally release it. Extra cores would let me run more VM's. I have a 2400G and its been great up to now.
Assuming the 5600G price (195) doesn't get jacked up on release, this is the best option
I read it's $250
@@acoachinlunacy9815 With FSR coming soon, it'll be even better !
They are on eBay for 700$
The msrp is supposed to be 260
@@acoachinlunacy9815 hmm where do you live? i got it for about $250 and i'm living in a third world country.
Lol start to “spread its legs”. I think you meant “stretch it’s legs” or “spread it’s wings” lolololol
Haha yup
The 5600G is the one that spread its legs, it got f.ed by the 5600X lol
um you spread your legs to get rammed he wasnt wrong
😂😂 weird script writer
Wait...the CPU differences are roughly 5-10%, but the 5600g is $40 CHEAPER and comes with an APU??
Old reply but I also wanted to say that 5600G also has better temperatures than the 5600X. I went for the 5600G, it’s honestly a better choice as has more pros than cons when compared to 5600X.
always good to have an apu in your system just in case you have graphics cards issues also helps with fault finding.
Dude u read my mind i was gonna do a build with r5 5600x but switched to the 5600g because i was using a used gtx 1070
@@knxqDeontae i know its been 4 months but you should really pair your cpu with an rtx 3060, the ryzen 5600g is almost the same as the x when using a 3060
@@astrolightingyt4531 thanks bro will do that as the next update
Thank you so much for this information, built my PC back in the GPU shortage era, and now that I bought my GPU wanted to see if I really needed to change my processor, but it seems for what I do it won't matter, so my wallet is happy
I wanted to get a Ryzen 3 3100 cant find one. Spotted a 5600G for less than two hundred $ along with Zen3 things looked promising. I plan to pair this with a Nvidia GTX 970. After watching this video I went with the 5600G for 1080 gaming. The video was helpful in decision making. Thumbs up.
if you dont have any dedicated graphics card and you are fine with a slightly better performance than a GT 1030 - the 5600G is the way to go. Even if you have a dedicated GPU the 5600G is still a decent CPU that deliveres about 10% less CPU performance, but at a 25% price discount.
That different really is slight, it's almost exactly the same as a 1030.
If you want to play new AAA releases then the 5600g is not going to be useful to you, but if you want to dabble in emulation and retro gaming it's a great value
The best part is that you can actually overclock the iGPU over 2000Mhz easily and together with good/fast DRAM it reaches out to GTX1050 Ti performances in some games i tried.
Espescially with the latest BIOS updates this iGPU has been getting a lot more smoother as well.
Absolutely wrong, it can never reach those performance, it is a GT 1030 equivalent according to PassMark and all the testing I've seen.
@@SanctusBacchus Uh i did it myself and i did get those performances ! So you are not right !
lol probably gtx 1050 close but not the Ti lol.
I bought the same prebuilt on Best Buy, and now it's no more available.
so did i
I went for the 5600X with the Asus Rog Strix motherboard since I play a lot, runs wonderfully well with everything I throw at it.
"The 5600X is going to spread it's legs and show off".
OH MY! 😂😂😂
Good review.
This could be useful for people running Linux who want a gaming-only Windows virtual machine (gaming on Linux is getting better, but it still has a way to go). You can passthrough a dedicated GPU while still using your linux with the integrated one
That's pretty genius.
The “gaming on Linux is getting better” line has been going on for at least 10 years now and it’s still the same 😂 stop coping
One thing people seem to say about Intel V AMD is that G series APUS are "worse" than non Apu AMD chips but people forget that almost all Intel Chips albeit F series ones come with onboard graphics. Also with a G series AMD chip it gives you a kind of GPU insurance so you can trouble shoot / sell current GPU while waiting for new one / Just more options 👍 thanks for the content !
Plus these APUs are pretty beefy.
I used my PC without a graphics card and with a 5600g for like two months and there's just so much stuff to play.
I was playing games with DuckStation and PCSX2, plus RPCS3 is mostly CPU bound and you can run games like MGS4 without a GPU.
On a budget this CPU is a best, now I'm using a RTX 3060 and it still provides rock solid performance in pretty much anything
6:20
I’m pretty sure you meant “stretch it’s legs?”
Because “spread it’s legs” paints a COMPLETELY different picture?
If we're looking at a mid grade GPU like the RTX 3060 (which is not that impressive actually) the difference won't be much. Although, getting 100-200 fps on fortnite and "low" fps numbers in most of the benchmarks just won't be enough to force a realistic CPU bottleneck. Get games like Far Cry 5, Civilization VI, and maybe try to push like 100+ fps in all games, because the real difference always comes when the FPS targets are higher (this, in terms of CPU and RAM), and for "lower" FPS values almost any recent CPU will suffice
Can you directly play GPU intensive games with 5600G without an external graphic card(Ex: RTX 3060)?
@@BallerinaWick1 not reallyz watch my most recent video with 20 games on the 5600G
*calling RTX 3060 a mid grade GPU in 2021*
@@BallerinaWick1 depends on what you call GPU intensive. But generally no, it's about on the level of a 1030.
@@yeoldefoxeh254 understood. Thanks for the input.
Thanks for the video, I just purchased the 5 5600G. I also bought the B550 Gaming X V2 MOBO. I am not sure about what to expect. I am going to have to take the MOBO out of the case and do the QFlash first then put it back into the case. I watched a video on how to make a flash drive and have done it, guess the only thing left to do is take the MOBO out of the case and hook up an PSU to it.
How is it
I was wandering how good the clip is too
You will continue to wander for all eternity
I know there use to be a performance boost of sort back in the day when you paired APU with GPU. Shame this is no longer the case
This video really cleared up a lot of questions that I had! Great video!
Today, it would be stupid to buy a CPU without an iGPU, so seeing that AMD finally did a sort-of comparable CPU with a iGPU is good.
Hilarious that Intel did the inverse in recent years and launched CPUs without iGPUs but oh well.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
Fortnite DX12 90FPS
Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
so....
The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
@@ancientslav4863 aim for 2060 super if u find a cheap one
@@smallpcgaming7279 hi man. I sold that pc for 570$, and bought a 5600x, GTX960 4gb, 2x8 3600MHZ for 680$, sold it in a week for 800$ and the very next day got for 650$ a 8600K, gtx 1080, 2x8 3000MHZ and I am VERY FRICKING HAPPY 😀 I managed to play in 1080p cyberpunk 2077 high settings 60fps, fortnite all max 100fps, competitive high 270fps, Warzone high textures 140fps...I never had more that 90fps in warzone low in my life!
And I even earned up 250$ from the pc swapping and I even got lots of stuff with it like adiditonal webcam and HDD and wifi adapter. And sold that too.
What a buy!!! The guy selling me the GTX1080 pc wanted money quick as he had a laptop with rtx3070.
Now I'm planing to sell that and get at least rx6800, Rtx2080ti or 3070..cause nothing else makes sense for just few fps more. A 2070, 3060 or even 2080 aren't a reasonable upgrade now for me. The 1080 is a 5 year old legend. And I got one of the best versions too
@@ancientslav4863 nicee u did well with the swiping
@@smallpcgaming7279 yesterday I took the gpu stock cooler form the gpu down and attached with zip ties two Arctic P12 PWM PST fans. In bios I have set a custom fan curve corresponding to cpu Temps. Before room Temps idle 37C and gaming 65C. Now 25/55C and super low noise since the fans spin max 1000RPM and are much bigger than stock gpu fans. Smallest are like the strix 3x fans. I don't like that. My Gainward has 2x10cm, but 2x12cm is much better. And it looks super cool. So industrious
Very Interesting ! This helped me realise at what point CPU really starts to matter ! Thank you !
Playing over 150FPS will not show any difference anyway, so it doesn't matter if one is 200 FPS and the other one is 600 FPS, you will feel no difference. The only difference you will feel is when your GPU is fried and the X system has no place to stick the monitor cable into :) I got the G for this reason alone, a backup to my GPU.
The only fundamental difference between both CPUs as far as gaming is concerned is that, the X version does a lot better in CPU intensive games and for GPU intensive games, there's only little to none difference.
Thanks for this...I was beginning to wonder if I chose wisely going with the much cheaper 5600g
i choose 5600g for the igpu.
it is very useful as a back up plan when your dedicated gpu got issues.
normally i dont like tech channel but your explanation was pretty cool about the differences between both cpu's so heres your like and sub
Actually there's another difference Brett. A big one.
One is cezanne which is a monolithic design and hence requires less cache and is more efficient but unable to scale the performance well to higher clockspeeds
While the other, vermeer is the chiplet design that has higher power consumption and caceh requirements but it Can scale to higher clock speeds and is designed for a higher power consumption.
5600G is the same silicon that goes in the laptops.
😔 so you are saying I bought a laptop CPU?
@@callmetatan yes, it is essentially an overclocked and unlocked 5600H
You've also got to remember if you get a GPU and start gaming at 1440p you're going to see that already small performance difference disappear especially if you overclock the 5600g a little
i just ordered my 5600g. i have a 2070 and a 1440p monitor. should be good eh? for most games anyways ehj?
@@ironplatypus7393 yeah man should be fine. The cpu certainly won't be whats holding you back anyways. Don't expect over 100fps for aaa titles but you do always have the option of reducing render scale or graphics settings in those situations
@@ironplatypus7393 Hey. Are there any compatibility issues between the APU and your 2070? I have a rx 6600 and was thinking of getting the 5600g. But I have heard that sometimes there are issues with having a dedicated GPU and an APU together.
@@hikingbiker I haven't run into any issues with mine yet!
@@hikingbiker I have that exact setup now. Didn't have any issues, but I disabled IGPU in bios and got a performance increase.
Just checked eBay in the US. Both the 5600g and 5600x can be had for about $120. The 5500 can be had for about $25 less.
Very interesting. Thanks for the test data. I suspect most of the difference in Valorant is down to the PCIe 4.0 interface, actually. When you get to super high framerates like that is when you run into the I/O bottleneck across the bus.
It has nothing to do with pcie, most systems can barely saturate the pcie 3.0 speeds. It's the fact that the 5600G has only half the cache so it has to fetch data more often and delays operations
@@arcticowl1091 Well, you're mistaken. Sorry.
@@azazelleblack and do you have anything to say about why that is instead of just saying "no you're wrong"?
@@arcticowl1091 Do you?
@@azazelleblack others have already done so for me. you need a 3090 to get even close to 100% saturation of the PCIE 3.0 16x bandwith. this APU is not even close to that amount of processing power. are you gonna explain why i'm mistaken according to you?
Is there a reason they didn’t include the whole 32mb of cache? Is it because it would take up too much die space when they also have an igpu in the package? Also maybe its only pcie gen 3 to work at lower power targets that system integrators, and oem’s would prefer?
My guess is to allow more physical and thermal headroom for the GPU.
You may like to try the 5600g with ddr4 4400 ram, fclk set to 2200mhz. the x can't run fclk like that.
you might find that you get a machine with a different character.
Yeah, but that would mean using 2:1 gearing, which makes latency way worse, affecting overall performance quite substantially.
@@spakeschannel no, this is 1:1
@@spakeschannel not if you manually set fclk to 2200 for the APU. it runs 1:1.
The memory controller on the APUs is not the same as the controller in the 3600x.
@@bradmorri not sure about non being the same, other than integration, but it's much better because it's on 7nm tsmc node vs 12nm glofo.
@@TheSilviu8x what? the /g chip has the memory controller on the 7nm monolithic silicon, the x is on the io die. the ?G chips will clock fclk to 2200 and thew X chips struggle to get 1900. that all has a bearing on bandwidth available for memory transfers
As a single-player and 60 fps game title gamer, R5 5600G is the wisest buy I would boost over and over.
So basically a 5% difference in performance. You could go with either. If you’re going to need to save up $1,000 for a graphics card the 5600G is a better choice because the computer will actually run.
been using my 5600g first with the iGPU then with rx6600 and then now 3070 and for games where my target is 60-120fps it still keeps pace. I don't think I will even think/need getting an "upgrade" (5800x) till the rtx5070 comes out lol.
259 is kinda high, but the 3400g goes for 200+ now. Even the older ones are stupid high. I hope that there are plenty of of this on the market, if not the x is everywhere near me, msrp priced also!
I recently bought a Phanteks G360A tower so I can finally build a PC & since I'm on a budget (will upgrade to even better specs in the future), I was thinking of the 5600G
for an actual graphics card, I at least want a RTX 3060 but that's like $300+
The PCIe 4.0 support that the X has, is huge future-proofing. If you can get the X within 50 dollars more of the G then it's definitely worth it to get the X, in my opinion... of course, the G also has GPU chip in it and for very basic gaming you would do even without a GPU then...
There is no such thing as future-proofing. By the time you need it, everything you have is obsolete anyway. I thought I was future proofing a couple of years ago when I went for a high-end motherboard. But now AMD is obsoleting socket A4 and going to A5.
No it's not. If anything, you are wasting money and a back up plan for a teeny bit of performance.
You both make very good points
@@Fred2-123 good point
@@intermilan9731 true indeed
I'm glad I watched it to the end. Almost missed that val/cs part because that's the only game I play. lol
Well, you are comparing performance on AAA games that are really GPU bound and the bottleneck is the 3060, on CS go and Valorant that are really CPU bound, that's when you see the biggest difference, you need to use a RTX 3070 / 3080 or 6700XT to really show the true potencial and difference between the chips, 5600X is way faster then 5600G.
Subscriber here . thanks for the video ❤❤❤
So, I can buy either one Intel Core i3-12100 or a Ryzen 5 5600G for €110 and €120 respectively. According to most critics and reviews, the performance of each processor is pretty similar to each other. Since the price is practically the same and the i3 is newer and more energy efficient, the catch is the fact that the 5600G has 6 cores instead of 4 and its graphics are probably a bit superior. Lastly, no matter what my choice is going to be, I have found two similarly priced motherboards for either processor. Your help would be appreciated!
I just bought a 5600x and rtx3060 prebuilt pc for $1624 today I’m glad I’m seeing this
I think that to compare the L3 cache impact, testing both cpu at the same clockspeed might be a better idea.
The point is not to try and make it even the point is to show how they both perform out of the box.
Ryzen 5 5600G vs Core i5-10600K?
Hmmm... Interesting. I'm going to put together a new PC because my old FX 8320e CPU is getting pretty dated. I'm going to keep my GPU for a while. It's a GTX 1070. This video makes me think the 5600g would be plenty for now. Thanks.
1070 is getting old
@@lootangshellhouse2506 Yeah but it's not $2000 and it competes with the 3060ti. Good enough for me and much better than my 980. lol
FX?
I thought my Ryzen 3 3200g was getting dated.
@@intermilan9731 To be honest, for gaming, I built a PC with a Ryzen 7 5700G and put the 1070 in for a comparison and it wasn't really any better than the 8320e. I did upgrade the GPU though. First a 6700XT and then a 3080. Much better now. lol
Considering the price, you should definitely go with the 5600g
Honestly 180 for the ryzen 5600x
And 115 for the ryzen 5600g on a major budget for a friend I went with the 5600g it’s the cheapest cpu right now
yep, that's why I will get a 6700xt instead of the 6600xt. I can always get a better CPU if i want/need to. If I want a better CPU than the R5-5600g $120, I'm going to go big, and get at least a R7-5700x $210.
This is really really helpful. I almost buy the G until you include Valorant benchmark. Now, I am planning to buy the X
Considering the price difference, still might get the 5600G. Right now it's $230 vs $299. I wonder if they had the same clocks what the Valorant difference would have been. I'm sure that cache was the big factor in the 50%, but I wonder how much of it.
Recently bought a 5600g with a 3070ti build 32gb or ram averaging 200fps on valorant If you have the extra $70 to spend would recommend the 5600x, looking at benchmarks alone you see a massive difference for $70
@@mattdev8021 Why you bought a 5600g with 3070ti, why not 5600x? I don't have a discrete GPU that is why I picked up 5600g but you had dgpu then why
@@callmetatan 🤣
good test. gotha say the square warm light is distracting to look at
Hey.... great comparison. Appreciate ya, Man.
I always wondered this. Thanks.
Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
Fortnite DX12 90FPS
Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
so....
The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years
thank you so much this really help me out
could you maybe do a small vid having the 5600g clocked equal to the 5600x? i want to know how much performance you can gain by clocking the 5600g equal to the x.
cool comparison.. great info on the 5600g!
120 vs 130 is pretty much a draw. Percentage is misleading sometimes. 200 vs 400... I don't think you can tell the difference even with a 360 Hz monitor.
great comparison video man
Was the integrated graphics still enabled when testing red dead redemption and could it have gained by utilising the intergrated gpu as well as the 3060?
Yea, I came down here to see if anyone else had this question. I know directx 12 and vulkan are supposed to be able to utilize mixed GPU's in a non crossfire/sli type of way. The few benchmarks I have seen of the very few games that support the feature did not look promising. I do wonder if that is what is happening here though.
The only thing that is better is the memory controller, 7nm tsmc on 5600g and 12nm glofo on 5600x.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
5600G is great, I have bought 3 of them for different computers. I have bought Zero 5600X and I will tell you why...the 5600 non x came out and I have bought two of the non x. Why buy the Non X? Because it's PCIe4, not that I care about NVME4 drives, I would never notice the speed difference, but PCIe4 graphics cards work better with PCIe4 board and CPU. Lastly, I own an RX6800 and I could see slightly more difference. the 5600 non X is the lowest on the chain of Ryzen PCIe4 processors. 5500 is not PCIe4 as it has been mistakenly reported in a few places I saw. [edit] Just bought another 5600 nonX, couldn't resist newegg for $129 after $10 promotion.
Hi Brett, from Pretoria South Africa
6:16 "spead its legs"?! Stretch its legs surely? :)
Great video BTW
im really hyped for the future of integrated grphics design
Microcenter currently have the 5600g priced at $199. Is that a good deal over the 5600x priced at $279?
No spend the extra 80-70 if you’re playing cpu intensive games
So i have an AMD ryzen 5 3600 is it worth it to upgrade to either one of these
Depending on the GPU that you have...
Good to see that you do the tests on more realistic bench
Ryzen 5 on B550
Unlike other RUclipsrs who test every chip on a High end X570 Board
Did you mean to say "stretch its legs" @6:18?
What was power consumption differences? I'm looking to swap my 5600x for a 5600g since the monolithic nature has much lower idle power and likely quite a bit lower load power consumption.
The 5600X “spreads its legs...” Sexy!
I was thinking, wouldn't it be the other way around? Though, the 'its' could be referring to the 5600g, that the 5600x spreads the 5600g legs, because the 5600g got f... In that scenario.
I laughed way too hard. Mixed metaphors are the best.
it means like running at full speed.. nothing sexy about that
Apparently, the 5600x gets a high framerate on pornhub. Browsing there, it really spreads its wings.
in my case im saving up for a gpu and hence will be buying it after i make my pc. so should i get the x or g ?
Choose G, because you wont be able to use your newly built PC without any type of video card. Which incase of X version, it needs a dedicated one
Excelent explanation thanks! 5600G is cheaper where I live by $20. Great value since it is so close to a 5600X.
My best guess is that the performance difference was due to PCIe speed in Valorent, since I read in my MSI B450 Tomahawk manual that using an APU will limit the primary PCIe slot to x8 speed. In addition, I have recently tested this on a Intel P55 platform where performance is greatly impacted in some games when having two different GPUs in the system.
Have you tried disabling the Vega graphics in the BIOS before doing this test? I am looking to get a 5600G due to having the Integrated Graphics as a backup.
I have the 5 5600g in a Msi b450 A max pro with a 6700xt and the gpu-z program says its using the "pciex 4.0 x16 @ pciex 3.0 x16". So im guessing the performance difference is based on the 4.0 to 3.0 since its tiny mostly.
It has nothing to do with pcie speeds, and saying the pcie speed changes is just flat out wrong
@@arcticowl1091 a bit late to the party Owl, and no you are actually wrong, I have purchased a Ryzen 5 5600 instead of Ryzen 5 5600G and the PCIe multiplier and extra L3 Cache makes a major difference, I have first hand experience through multiple systems and actually the PCIe issue is mentioned in the manual of the MSI B450 Tomahawk.
On top of that, AMD and Intel designed their last GPU architectures around Resizable Bar which makes a focus on using all the PCIe bandwidth instead of transfer rates less than 512MB/s and it makes quite the difference for AMD and a considerable difference for intel. intel even recommends not buying an ARC GPU if your motherboard cannot enable reBAR.
Before you say I do not know what I am talking about, I have done a BSc in Computing a few years ago, so think before you accuse people of being flatout wrong.
Modern games are constantly streaming textures between GPU/RAM/CPU and being PCIe limited shows as 100% GPU utilization but less power draw, I have tested this extensively between motherboards that allow full x16 versus x8 PCIe speeds and also between L3 Cache differences of variant CPUs.
@@hitbm4755 well at least you have the credentials to back your shit up, appreciate the schooling.
Thanks for the vid, that was great and thansk for the CSGO tips!
No one would be able to tell the difference in a game. 5600G is the best choice.
Generally curious, is it really worth getting the x for the bump in eSports titles when most monitors are doing 240hz or less? Just because it's getting those speeds doesn't mean you see the difference or am I crazy?
Yes but no. The avg is only avg. You will definitely notice fps drops from 280 to 128 but not si much as 422 to 187
high game fps translate to lower delay / frametime, but honestly you wouldn't notice input lag after hitting 120 fps anyway
Nope. With G, you save some money and get a backup graphics in case something happens to your discreet GPU.
Appreciate the hard work 😊 to make this video.
I build a pc wih a 5600g and a rx6600xt for my little brother to play minecraft and terraria mostly. I choose the 5600g because it was 40€ cheaper, consumes less power ,has ~94% the cpu power of a 5600x and most important for me, if the 6600xt dies he can still game on the pc
Thank you. This is just the video I needed.
putted simple : G allows you to boot wihtout a graphics card.
X is faster but no graphics so, if your graphics card dies, rip your system
👍🏼 great info bro
Hard to "grow up" from gaming when gaming would just keep growing without us.. Might as well grow with it. I need to build a PC.
I realize this is an old video but something I hear no one talking about is the fact that you can clock ram about 1000 GHZ faster on the 5600g than the 5600x resulting in about a 37% ram bandwidth boost over the 5600x. This can cause for fps improvement in games such as spiderman where ram speed is the bottleneck.
I wish I had bought the 5600 or 5600X instead of G because the G version has half the L3 cache. I didn't realize that before I purchased it. It should be called the 5500G. False advertising it is.
Thanks! I feel better about my buy of the 5600g. I got a 3060ti and looking forward to update my cpu, I need advice!
other than valorant which application or game gives around 50% improvement over the 5600g?
Is it possible to go with a 5600x and no gpu , or is it gonna be terrible?
So far what Ive seen is that you defientely need a gpu or you dont get video. Did you get that one and no caer too? Because I did.
I'm looking to upgrade my CPU (Ryzen 5 2400g) and pair it with a GTX 1660 Super. Which one should I choose?
I just bought the 5600G for my sons computer, i think he will be happy with it, i bought a RX 6600 8GB and 16 GB 3200mhz to go with it+ a 24" Asus Tuff monitor with 1ms and 144hz. Then he can upgrade at a later stage i think it is a good beginner computer and my budget is pretty low.
Just snagged one sealed new in the box for $80. Selling my 3600 / GT1030 DDR5 combo now. Hopefully I can make about $70-80 on CPU and $30-50 on GPU. Not much of an improvement but figured why not if I can sell what it replaces for more. It’s a bedroom 24/7 pc that must be next to silent for sleeping. Also I would imagine a little less power use.
Year later and it filtered down into the garage PC. Have a 5600X/6600XT/32gb/X570S in the bedroom now. 5600G is great for this shop use and at some point a extra GTX1080 will be dropped into it for the occasional game.
Quick question, what is responsible for giving u a higher fps by default? The graphics card? or the the processor or the ram? Working on building a gaming pc
Depends on the games you are playing, for example- CS:GO is a CPU game, which means that the GPU won't really affect the fps. In most of the games, the graphics card is responsible for giving fps
It's not that simple, but in most games the GPU.
However changing the cpu can also have a significant impact.
How's the Overcloking with the 5600G?