Ryzen 5 5600G vs 5600X - The Truth

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @vedinthorn
    @vedinthorn 2 года назад +1005

    The main thing in deciding for me was that I could get the G for just under 300 Canadian vs the X and just under 400 Canadian. Pay 75% of the price for 95% the performance? Yep.

    • @kebabjaeger
      @kebabjaeger 2 года назад +63

      Yeah I decided to get the G too because in finland it is 270€ vs the X for 330€.

    • @danielskrauklis1994
      @danielskrauklis1994 2 года назад +62

      ​@@kebabjaeger plus G version also has discrete graphics.
      By the way how G version is working for you? are you using dicrete graphics?

    • @jakubpulka
      @jakubpulka 2 года назад +13

      And you can always underclock the GPU and overclock CPU if needed and probably having same results

    • @tpb-unite1842
      @tpb-unite1842 2 года назад +16

      Hey there
      In india g costs 25000rs and X costs 23500 but here due to shortage of gpu's prices of gpu are thrice
      and i dont have money to purchase gpu so what should i buy 5600g or 5600x with display card....i am thinking to buy g cozz there's not that much difference

    • @zenot1c237
      @zenot1c237 2 года назад +17

      @@tpb-unite1842 get the g until u can afford something discrete

  • @807800
    @807800 3 года назад +469

    Basically, unless you're an esport maniac with a 360Hz screen, it's a good choice. Thanks for this, especially in this dark time when an APU is the only saving grace we had in DIY build.

    • @ancientslav4863
      @ancientslav4863 2 года назад +20

      Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
      The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
      The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
      Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
      Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
      Fortnite DX12 90FPS
      Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
      so....
      The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
      In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years

    • @akibahmed1956
      @akibahmed1956 2 года назад +3

      @@ancientslav4863 The graphics isn't vega, it's radeon graphics with 7 core and 8 core. Atm I'm confused if I should buy a 11400 and save some money for the upcoming 'budget' gpu lineup from all the big3. Or just take a 5600g and be at peace until I can buy a 'closer to msrp' gpu. (I work with architectural renderings and a good gpu is a must have)

    • @ancientslav4863
      @ancientslav4863 2 года назад +5

      @@akibahmed1956 from reliable sources, cards won't be at good prices throughout entire 2022 and even maybe 2023. If you can't get a gpu, for gaming, your only option is 5600g and 5700g, cause they have the strongest igpus in the world right now. And I don't get whatdzt you mean. Amd says the 5600g has vega 7 and 5700g has vega 8. It's just a naming...

    • @wannieboy1834
      @wannieboy1834 2 года назад +1

      @@ancientslav4863 Apparently ethereum proof of stake should release in June and that'll hopefully, probably, lower gpu prices to their msrp. Fingers crossed.

    • @wikittywhacktv
      @wikittywhacktv 2 года назад

      @@wannieboy1834 and bitcoin should just be cancelled! :p
      a lot of better and more efficient chains out there

  • @brandon520
    @brandon520 2 года назад +139

    I went with the G despite the lack of pci-e 4. That iGPU is nice for redundancy if your GPU dies and you have to RMA it you can at least still use your PC

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 Год назад +18

      That's why I got G. Money saved and the slight performance in X is just not worth it. Especially since you also get graphics in G, in case of emergencies.

    • @youdontneedtoknowthis177
      @youdontneedtoknowthis177 Год назад +4

      I have the opposite problem, Im waiting for my graphics card to be delivered so atleast I still have a usable pc while I wait

    • @Johanleebert
      @Johanleebert 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@youdontneedtoknowthis177how's the gameplay? Is it Decent without an external GPU?

    • @byakugan641
      @byakugan641 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Johanleebert depend on what you play, the hardest my iGPU ever tried is when i played NFS Heat which i had to make it as low as possible to make it reach at least 30 fps, and that's not even stable. Tho if you play something like Valorant, you can run it pretty well.
      Other game I tested is Genshin Impact, i only played it at 1366x768 resolution at medium back then, sometimes it reach 60 sometimes they dont.
      I'm not good with benchmarking PC since that's mostlikely the game I played recently. I did play some other games, but i forgot how was it xD
      Oh and CS2, since it's competitive game the FPS is terrible for playing online, especially during smokes, and Anubis map

    • @turkovich530
      @turkovich530 2 месяца назад +1

      This video does not address the thermals, which makes the G look even better.

  • @jaydala29
    @jaydala29 2 года назад +129

    This was probably one of the easiest to understand and helpful videos I've watched when it comes to comparisons. You really made it easy to understand for new PC builders like myself, so thank you for that!

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 3 года назад +155

    All depends on your needs.
    If you want an APU, get the 5600G.
    If you already have a dedicated GPU _and_ it's half-decent or better, get the 5600X.

    • @qwkimball
      @qwkimball 3 года назад +28

      Yup. I bought a 5700G in an HP TP01-2066 for a use case where I needed no dedicated GPU. Got the whole PC for 582 bucks out the door.

    • @lirokangaming6937
      @lirokangaming6937 3 года назад +15

      *get the 11400F for nearly same performance at a $150 lower price

    • @br0shbrol1n26
      @br0shbrol1n26 3 года назад +2

      @Iwobos it does have problem with power consumption and chipset gear, but once u tune the bios get proper ram speed u good to go, it just not worth it getting 5600x, unless u re aspiring Professional eSport player that play CS or Valorant

    • @br0shbrol1n26
      @br0shbrol1n26 3 года назад +3

      @@lirokangaming6937 true, but shortages are bad since they re sold so fast, week ago it was 170 but now its 250, 80$ price bump, hvae to wait a month or 2

    • @lirokangaming6937
      @lirokangaming6937 3 года назад +4

      @Iwobos Problems? Such as?
      Extra 40W to the power consumption which is nealy marginal?
      Or higher TDP that a $50 cooler can easily handle?

  • @rolandohiebert2144
    @rolandohiebert2144 3 года назад +143

    I guess now we know why they named the L3 cache gamecache...

    • @yuhuibao1728
      @yuhuibao1728 3 года назад +6

      this is for you, league and csgo.

    • @RmnGnzlz
      @RmnGnzlz 3 года назад

      Did you say that sarcastically?

    • @NatrajChaturvedi
      @NatrajChaturvedi 3 года назад +2

      Yea and halving that totally kills the appeal for me.

    • @andreaquino5596
      @andreaquino5596 3 года назад

      @@yuhuibao1728 wdym?

    • @yuhuibao1728
      @yuhuibao1728 3 года назад +2

      @@andreaquino5596 bigger l3 cache benefits online games like league or csgo the most.

  • @corplftw
    @corplftw 3 года назад +173

    I've been searching for a comparison like this. if the G version is almost the same performance as the X, its a good choice and much cheaper and you have an iGPU incase the absence of a GPU.

    • @profesercreeper
      @profesercreeper Год назад +3

      if you watch gamer's nexus video the 5600x shows more improvement around 10%. His test are extremely gpu bound so won't show the full extent of how far teh 5600x will go compared to the 5600g.

    • @alrecks619
      @alrecks619 Год назад +7

      @@profesercreeper keep in mind that 5600X supports PCIe4 whereas 5600G is stuck with PCIe3 not to mention the former has more cache compared to the latter.

    • @TomSmith-sr2br
      @TomSmith-sr2br Год назад +1

      @@alrecks619 Exactly why i go with the 5600x.

    • @astrolightingyt4531
      @astrolightingyt4531 Год назад +4

      @@alrecks619 pcie does not matter since most people wont pair this cpu with a rtx 4090 lol, rtx 3060 is more better comparison because pcie does not affect its performance what's so ever, cache though might be a problem when playing CPU intense games i guess

  • @acecashman1237
    @acecashman1237 3 года назад +104

    Assuming the 5600G price (195) doesn't get jacked up on release, this is the best option

    • @bluex610
      @bluex610 3 года назад +14

      I read it's $250

    • @trixniisama
      @trixniisama 3 года назад +2

      @@acoachinlunacy9815 With FSR coming soon, it'll be even better !

    • @jordanranstead3016
      @jordanranstead3016 3 года назад

      They are on eBay for 700$

    • @warhead811
      @warhead811 3 года назад +6

      The msrp is supposed to be 260

    • @ahsanihafizhushali2148
      @ahsanihafizhushali2148 3 года назад +1

      @@acoachinlunacy9815 hmm where do you live? i got it for about $250 and i'm living in a third world country.

  • @oscarruorochmolinacansino5907
    @oscarruorochmolinacansino5907 2 года назад +73

    This video made me pull the trigger to get the 5600g and so far I am very happy with it. When GPU prices stop being so stupidly high I may get me one, but for now the integrated graphics are fine for my needs. Thanks Brett!

    • @amitbikram9031
      @amitbikram9031 2 года назад +3

      Is this better than 12400f..bdw 12400f costs 30$ more

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 Год назад +4

      Smart choice. Difference between the two cpus is too minimal to notice. Plus one is an APU, in case something happens to your GPU, you have backup. Too many wins and money saved against a slight performance upgrade in the X version.

  • @TC-tn9tb
    @TC-tn9tb 3 года назад +23

    always good to have an apu in your system just in case you have graphics cards issues also helps with fault finding.

    • @knxqDeontae
      @knxqDeontae Год назад +2

      Dude u read my mind i was gonna do a build with r5 5600x but switched to the 5600g because i was using a used gtx 1070

    • @astrolightingyt4531
      @astrolightingyt4531 Год назад +1

      @@knxqDeontae i know its been 4 months but you should really pair your cpu with an rtx 3060, the ryzen 5600g is almost the same as the x when using a 3060

    • @knxqDeontae
      @knxqDeontae Год назад

      @@astrolightingyt4531 thanks bro will do that as the next update

  • @Ryzen_56X
    @Ryzen_56X 2 года назад +5

    I went for the 5600X with the Asus Rog Strix motherboard since I play a lot, runs wonderfully well with everything I throw at it.

  • @angelcm156
    @angelcm156 Год назад +8

    Thank you so much for this information, built my PC back in the GPU shortage era, and now that I bought my GPU wanted to see if I really needed to change my processor, but it seems for what I do it won't matter, so my wallet is happy

  • @HORNOMINATOR
    @HORNOMINATOR 3 года назад +16

    if you dont have any dedicated graphics card and you are fine with a slightly better performance than a GT 1030 - the 5600G is the way to go. Even if you have a dedicated GPU the 5600G is still a decent CPU that deliveres about 10% less CPU performance, but at a 25% price discount.

    • @SanctusBacchus
      @SanctusBacchus Год назад

      That different really is slight, it's almost exactly the same as a 1030.

    • @nisnast
      @nisnast Год назад +1

      If you want to play new AAA releases then the 5600g is not going to be useful to you, but if you want to dabble in emulation and retro gaming it's a great value

  • @metalwolfy82
    @metalwolfy82 3 года назад +44

    I'm thinking this could be a good upgrade option for my unraid server when they finally release it. Extra cores would let me run more VM's. I have a 2400G and its been great up to now.

  • @callsignnictmere465
    @callsignnictmere465 2 года назад +6

    I wanted to get a Ryzen 3 3100 cant find one. Spotted a 5600G for less than two hundred $ along with Zen3 things looked promising. I plan to pair this with a Nvidia GTX 970. After watching this video I went with the 5600G for 1080 gaming. The video was helpful in decision making. Thumbs up.

  • @Opiophobia
    @Opiophobia 3 года назад +11

    Wait...the CPU differences are roughly 5-10%, but the 5600g is $40 CHEAPER and comes with an APU??

    • @mystictomato9466
      @mystictomato9466 Месяц назад

      Old reply but I also wanted to say that 5600G also has better temperatures than the 5600X. I went for the 5600G, it’s honestly a better choice as has more pros than cons when compared to 5600X.

  • @willhartsell2283
    @willhartsell2283 3 года назад +123

    Lol start to “spread its legs”. I think you meant “stretch it’s legs” or “spread it’s wings” lolololol

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 3 года назад +3

      Haha yup

    • @Angelocity100
      @Angelocity100 3 года назад +9

      The 5600G is the one that spread its legs, it got f.ed by the 5600X lol

    • @KenyaSG
      @KenyaSG 3 года назад

      um you spread your legs to get rammed he wasnt wrong

    • @ouuuaburger2093
      @ouuuaburger2093 5 месяцев назад

      😂😂 weird script writer

  • @gordoncunliffe8038
    @gordoncunliffe8038 3 года назад +26

    I was wandering how good the clip is too

    • @Leviathan1132
      @Leviathan1132 3 года назад +7

      You will continue to wander for all eternity

  • @danielbudiono7232
    @danielbudiono7232 Год назад +15

    i choose 5600g for the igpu.
    it is very useful as a back up plan when your dedicated gpu got issues.

  • @tech4u2022
    @tech4u2022 2 года назад +38

    The best part is that you can actually overclock the iGPU over 2000Mhz easily and together with good/fast DRAM it reaches out to GTX1050 Ti performances in some games i tried.
    Espescially with the latest BIOS updates this iGPU has been getting a lot more smoother as well.

    • @SanctusBacchus
      @SanctusBacchus Год назад +3

      Absolutely wrong, it can never reach those performance, it is a GT 1030 equivalent according to PassMark and all the testing I've seen.

    • @tech4u2022
      @tech4u2022 Год назад +9

      @@SanctusBacchus Uh i did it myself and i did get those performances ! So you are not right !

    • @Balmung812
      @Balmung812 Год назад +3

      lol probably gtx 1050 close but not the Ti lol.

  • @Hyperion9700
    @Hyperion9700 Год назад +6

    One thing people seem to say about Intel V AMD is that G series APUS are "worse" than non Apu AMD chips but people forget that almost all Intel Chips albeit F series ones come with onboard graphics. Also with a G series AMD chip it gives you a kind of GPU insurance so you can trouble shoot / sell current GPU while waiting for new one / Just more options 👍 thanks for the content !

    • @nisnast
      @nisnast Год назад +1

      Plus these APUs are pretty beefy.
      I used my PC without a graphics card and with a 5600g for like two months and there's just so much stuff to play.
      I was playing games with DuckStation and PCSX2, plus RPCS3 is mostly CPU bound and you can run games like MGS4 without a GPU.
      On a budget this CPU is a best, now I'm using a RTX 3060 and it still provides rock solid performance in pretty much anything

  • @DrummClem
    @DrummClem 3 года назад +2

    Very Interesting ! This helped me realise at what point CPU really starts to matter ! Thank you !

  • @yo_mono
    @yo_mono 3 года назад +13

    This could be useful for people running Linux who want a gaming-only Windows virtual machine (gaming on Linux is getting better, but it still has a way to go). You can passthrough a dedicated GPU while still using your linux with the integrated one

    • @jshi3
      @jshi3 2 года назад

      That's pretty genius.

    • @FirstLast-yj1hp
      @FirstLast-yj1hp Год назад +1

      The “gaming on Linux is getting better” line has been going on for at least 10 years now and it’s still the same 😂 stop coping

  • @HectorElGeek12
    @HectorElGeek12 3 года назад +18

    I bought the same prebuilt on Best Buy, and now it's no more available.

  • @Blaze-jx8vs
    @Blaze-jx8vs 3 года назад +1

    I just bought a 5600x and rtx3060 prebuilt pc for $1624 today I’m glad I’m seeing this

  • @mre8ballgaming842
    @mre8ballgaming842 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for this...I was beginning to wonder if I chose wisely going with the much cheaper 5600g

  • @aryantiwari1945
    @aryantiwari1945 3 года назад +15

    Actually there's another difference Brett. A big one.
    One is cezanne which is a monolithic design and hence requires less cache and is more efficient but unable to scale the performance well to higher clockspeeds
    While the other, vermeer is the chiplet design that has higher power consumption and caceh requirements but it Can scale to higher clock speeds and is designed for a higher power consumption.
    5600G is the same silicon that goes in the laptops.

    • @callmetatan
      @callmetatan 2 года назад

      😔 so you are saying I bought a laptop CPU?

    • @aryantiwari1945
      @aryantiwari1945 2 года назад

      @@callmetatan yes, it is essentially an overclocked and unlocked 5600H

  • @jahbless6955
    @jahbless6955 2 года назад +2

    As a single-player and 60 fps game title gamer, R5 5600G is the wisest buy I would boost over and over.

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby 3 года назад +26

    Today, it would be stupid to buy a CPU without an iGPU, so seeing that AMD finally did a sort-of comparable CPU with a iGPU is good.
    Hilarious that Intel did the inverse in recent years and launched CPUs without iGPUs but oh well.

    • @ancientslav4863
      @ancientslav4863 2 года назад +2

      Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
      The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
      The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
      Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
      Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
      Fortnite DX12 90FPS
      Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
      so....
      The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
      In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years

    • @smallpcgaming7279
      @smallpcgaming7279 2 года назад +1

      @@ancientslav4863 aim for 2060 super if u find a cheap one

    • @ancientslav4863
      @ancientslav4863 2 года назад +1

      @@smallpcgaming7279 hi man. I sold that pc for 570$, and bought a 5600x, GTX960 4gb, 2x8 3600MHZ for 680$, sold it in a week for 800$ and the very next day got for 650$ a 8600K, gtx 1080, 2x8 3000MHZ and I am VERY FRICKING HAPPY 😀 I managed to play in 1080p cyberpunk 2077 high settings 60fps, fortnite all max 100fps, competitive high 270fps, Warzone high textures 140fps...I never had more that 90fps in warzone low in my life!
      And I even earned up 250$ from the pc swapping and I even got lots of stuff with it like adiditonal webcam and HDD and wifi adapter. And sold that too.
      What a buy!!! The guy selling me the GTX1080 pc wanted money quick as he had a laptop with rtx3070.
      Now I'm planing to sell that and get at least rx6800, Rtx2080ti or 3070..cause nothing else makes sense for just few fps more. A 2070, 3060 or even 2080 aren't a reasonable upgrade now for me. The 1080 is a 5 year old legend. And I got one of the best versions too

    • @smallpcgaming7279
      @smallpcgaming7279 2 года назад +1

      @@ancientslav4863 nicee u did well with the swiping

    • @ancientslav4863
      @ancientslav4863 2 года назад

      @@smallpcgaming7279 yesterday I took the gpu stock cooler form the gpu down and attached with zip ties two Arctic P12 PWM PST fans. In bios I have set a custom fan curve corresponding to cpu Temps. Before room Temps idle 37C and gaming 65C. Now 25/55C and super low noise since the fans spin max 1000RPM and are much bigger than stock gpu fans. Smallest are like the strix 3x fans. I don't like that. My Gainward has 2x10cm, but 2x12cm is much better. And it looks super cool. So industrious

  • @TheSilviu8x
    @TheSilviu8x 3 года назад +3

    259 is kinda high, but the 3400g goes for 200+ now. Even the older ones are stupid high. I hope that there are plenty of of this on the market, if not the x is everywhere near me, msrp priced also!

  • @amairoshinzou5064
    @amairoshinzou5064 3 года назад +1

    normally i dont like tech channel but your explanation was pretty cool about the differences between both cpu's so heres your like and sub

  • @azazelleblack
    @azazelleblack 3 года назад +14

    Very interesting. Thanks for the test data. I suspect most of the difference in Valorant is down to the PCIe 4.0 interface, actually. When you get to super high framerates like that is when you run into the I/O bottleneck across the bus.

    • @arcticowl1091
      @arcticowl1091 Год назад +1

      It has nothing to do with pcie, most systems can barely saturate the pcie 3.0 speeds. It's the fact that the 5600G has only half the cache so it has to fetch data more often and delays operations

    • @azazelleblack
      @azazelleblack Год назад +2

      @@arcticowl1091 Well, you're mistaken. Sorry.

    • @arcticowl1091
      @arcticowl1091 Год назад +1

      @@azazelleblack and do you have anything to say about why that is instead of just saying "no you're wrong"?

    • @azazelleblack
      @azazelleblack Год назад +2

      @@arcticowl1091 Do you?

    • @arcticowl1091
      @arcticowl1091 Год назад +3

      @@azazelleblack others have already done so for me. you need a 3090 to get even close to 100% saturation of the PCIE 3.0 16x bandwith. this APU is not even close to that amount of processing power. are you gonna explain why i'm mistaken according to you?

  • @abhishekkunchikor8003
    @abhishekkunchikor8003 3 года назад +9

    The only fundamental difference between both CPUs as far as gaming is concerned is that, the X version does a lot better in CPU intensive games and for GPU intensive games, there's only little to none difference.

  • @sergeantranger5825
    @sergeantranger5825 2 года назад +2

    Thank you . This is one of the best comparison I've ever seen
    I saw lots of videos they were showing that there is difference from 20 - 50 fps between 5600X and 5600G in all the games , that was unrealistic

    • @ML-fc3je
      @ML-fc3je 2 года назад +1

      I know it is 4 months late but the 20-50fps difference is when avg frame rate is like over 300-400fps if your target is 60-120fps thats like give or take 5-9fps.

    • @sergeantranger5825
      @sergeantranger5825 2 года назад

      @@ML-fc3je Oh I didnt know that, thanks bro❤❤

  • @Chris173972
    @Chris173972 3 года назад +5

    I know there use to be a performance boost of sort back in the day when you paired APU with GPU. Shame this is no longer the case

  • @farazalikhan5242
    @farazalikhan5242 3 года назад +3

    Good to see that you do the tests on more realistic bench
    Ryzen 5 on B550
    Unlike other RUclipsrs who test every chip on a High end X570 Board

  • @Twizz023
    @Twizz023 2 года назад

    This video really cleared up a lot of questions that I had! Great video!

  • @skd
    @skd 2 года назад +4

    Playing over 150FPS will not show any difference anyway, so it doesn't matter if one is 200 FPS and the other one is 600 FPS, you will feel no difference. The only difference you will feel is when your GPU is fried and the X system has no place to stick the monitor cable into :) I got the G for this reason alone, a backup to my GPU.

  • @Stoned_Sparky
    @Stoned_Sparky 2 года назад +4

    Honestly 180 for the ryzen 5600x
    And 115 for the ryzen 5600g on a major budget for a friend I went with the 5600g it’s the cheapest cpu right now

    • @greenman8
      @greenman8 Год назад

      yep, that's why I will get a 6700xt instead of the 6600xt. I can always get a better CPU if i want/need to. If I want a better CPU than the R5-5600g $120, I'm going to go big, and get at least a R7-5700x $210.

  • @Vanix0609
    @Vanix0609 3 года назад +4

    Considering the price, you should definitely go with the 5600g

  • @dalewilson908
    @dalewilson908 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video, I just purchased the 5 5600G. I also bought the B550 Gaming X V2 MOBO. I am not sure about what to expect. I am going to have to take the MOBO out of the case and do the QFlash first then put it back into the case. I watched a video on how to make a flash drive and have done it, guess the only thing left to do is take the MOBO out of the case and hook up an PSU to it.

  • @ancientslav4863
    @ancientslav4863 2 года назад +1

    Yesterday, I got for 510$ a 5600G, 2x8GB 3200Mhz, 250GB NVME, Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI, Asus TUF 750B and a nice case.
    The board has WIFI 6 + BT 5.1 = super handy and cool
    The APU´s integrated graphics card (iGPU) RX Vega 7 performs great. To my knowledge, its the second most powerful iGPU in the world after Vega 8, no?
    Anyway, in 1080p avg FPS:
    Fortnite performance mode 145FPS - actually has advantage over DX12 in building and overall game awareness
    Fortnite DX12 90FPS
    Warzone Pacific low/off + normal textures 60FPS
    so....
    The 5600G is a major, Major go!!! In this age of GPU shortages where a single RX570 or GTX 1060 cost here over 500$ and a 1050ti, which is a bit better than Vega 7 over 300$ when in early 2020 I got them for 110$ and I sold my Asus 1050ti for 70$ :( :)
    In the future Ill buy a 2060 or 1660ti and ill be good for some years

  • @pweddy1
    @pweddy1 3 года назад +3

    6:20
    I’m pretty sure you meant “stretch it’s legs?”
    Because “spread it’s legs” paints a COMPLETELY different picture?

  • @CtrlAltSk8
    @CtrlAltSk8 3 года назад +12

    You've also got to remember if you get a GPU and start gaming at 1440p you're going to see that already small performance difference disappear especially if you overclock the 5600g a little

    • @ironplatypus7393
      @ironplatypus7393 3 года назад +5

      i just ordered my 5600g. i have a 2070 and a 1440p monitor. should be good eh? for most games anyways ehj?

    • @CtrlAltSk8
      @CtrlAltSk8 3 года назад +4

      @@ironplatypus7393 yeah man should be fine. The cpu certainly won't be whats holding you back anyways. Don't expect over 100fps for aaa titles but you do always have the option of reducing render scale or graphics settings in those situations

    • @hikingbiker
      @hikingbiker Год назад

      @@ironplatypus7393 Hey. Are there any compatibility issues between the APU and your 2070? I have a rx 6600 and was thinking of getting the 5600g. But I have heard that sometimes there are issues with having a dedicated GPU and an APU together.

    • @ironplatypus7393
      @ironplatypus7393 Год назад +1

      @@hikingbiker I haven't run into any issues with mine yet!

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 Год назад +1

      @@hikingbiker I have that exact setup now. Didn't have any issues, but I disabled IGPU in bios and got a performance increase.

  • @viveksuman9600
    @viveksuman9600 2 года назад

    I'm glad I watched it to the end. Almost missed that val/cs part because that's the only game I play. lol

  • @zuctimil5249
    @zuctimil5249 5 месяцев назад

    im really hyped for the future of integrated grphics design

  • @SyahrulSalim85
    @SyahrulSalim85 2 года назад

    This is really really helpful. I almost buy the G until you include Valorant benchmark. Now, I am planning to buy the X

  • @Voidsworn
    @Voidsworn 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just checked eBay in the US. Both the 5600g and 5600x can be had for about $120. The 5500 can be had for about $25 less.

  • @dominik8291
    @dominik8291 2 года назад +1

    I build a pc wih a 5600g and a rx6600xt for my little brother to play minecraft and terraria mostly. I choose the 5600g because it was 40€ cheaper, consumes less power ,has ~94% the cpu power of a 5600x and most important for me, if the 6600xt dies he can still game on the pc

  • @F1neW1ne
    @F1neW1ne 3 года назад +4

    Excelent explanation thanks! 5600G is cheaper where I live by $20. Great value since it is so close to a 5600X.

  • @THOTHvii
    @THOTHvii Год назад

    Hard to "grow up" from gaming when gaming would just keep growing without us.. Might as well grow with it. I need to build a PC.

  • @AncientGameplays
    @AncientGameplays 3 года назад +9

    If we're looking at a mid grade GPU like the RTX 3060 (which is not that impressive actually) the difference won't be much. Although, getting 100-200 fps on fortnite and "low" fps numbers in most of the benchmarks just won't be enough to force a realistic CPU bottleneck. Get games like Far Cry 5, Civilization VI, and maybe try to push like 100+ fps in all games, because the real difference always comes when the FPS targets are higher (this, in terms of CPU and RAM), and for "lower" FPS values almost any recent CPU will suffice

    • @BallerinaWick1
      @BallerinaWick1 2 года назад

      Can you directly play GPU intensive games with 5600G without an external graphic card(Ex: RTX 3060)?

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays 2 года назад

      @@BallerinaWick1 not reallyz watch my most recent video with 20 games on the 5600G

    • @yeoldefoxeh254
      @yeoldefoxeh254 Год назад +1

      *calling RTX 3060 a mid grade GPU in 2021*

    • @yeoldefoxeh254
      @yeoldefoxeh254 Год назад

      @@BallerinaWick1 depends on what you call GPU intensive. But generally no, it's about on the level of a 1030.

    • @BallerinaWick1
      @BallerinaWick1 Год назад +1

      @@yeoldefoxeh254 understood. Thanks for the input.

  • @ChristopherCauser
    @ChristopherCauser 2 года назад

    6:16 "spead its legs"?! Stretch its legs surely? :)
    Great video BTW

  • @AVDRE
    @AVDRE 3 года назад

    good test. gotha say the square warm light is distracting to look at

  • @fatefinger
    @fatefinger 3 года назад +10

    So basically a 5% difference in performance. You could go with either. If you’re going to need to save up $1,000 for a graphics card the 5600G is a better choice because the computer will actually run.

    • @ML-fc3je
      @ML-fc3je 2 года назад +1

      been using my 5600g first with the iGPU then with rx6600 and then now 3070 and for games where my target is 60-120fps it still keeps pace. I don't think I will even think/need getting an "upgrade" (5800x) till the rtx5070 comes out lol.

  • @soupit32
    @soupit32 2 года назад +3

    The PCIe 4.0 support that the X has, is huge future-proofing. If you can get the X within 50 dollars more of the G then it's definitely worth it to get the X, in my opinion... of course, the G also has GPU chip in it and for very basic gaming you would do even without a GPU then...

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 Год назад +3

      There is no such thing as future-proofing. By the time you need it, everything you have is obsolete anyway. I thought I was future proofing a couple of years ago when I went for a high-end motherboard. But now AMD is obsoleting socket A4 and going to A5.

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 Год назад

      No it's not. If anything, you are wasting money and a back up plan for a teeny bit of performance.

    • @soupit32
      @soupit32 Год назад

      You both make very good points

    • @soupit32
      @soupit32 Год назад

      @@Fred2-123 good point

    • @soupit32
      @soupit32 Год назад

      @@intermilan9731 true indeed

  • @robertkubrick3738
    @robertkubrick3738 2 года назад +1

    5600G is great, I have bought 3 of them for different computers. I have bought Zero 5600X and I will tell you why...the 5600 non x came out and I have bought two of the non x. Why buy the Non X? Because it's PCIe4, not that I care about NVME4 drives, I would never notice the speed difference, but PCIe4 graphics cards work better with PCIe4 board and CPU. Lastly, I own an RX6800 and I could see slightly more difference. the 5600 non X is the lowest on the chain of Ryzen PCIe4 processors. 5500 is not PCIe4 as it has been mistakenly reported in a few places I saw. [edit] Just bought another 5600 nonX, couldn't resist newegg for $129 after $10 promotion.

  • @bradmorri
    @bradmorri 3 года назад +12

    You may like to try the 5600g with ddr4 4400 ram, fclk set to 2200mhz. the x can't run fclk like that.
    you might find that you get a machine with a different character.

    • @spakeschannel
      @spakeschannel 3 года назад

      Yeah, but that would mean using 2:1 gearing, which makes latency way worse, affecting overall performance quite substantially.

    • @innnlove
      @innnlove 3 года назад +1

      @@spakeschannel no, this is 1:1

    • @bradmorri
      @bradmorri 3 года назад +1

      @@spakeschannel not if you manually set fclk to 2200 for the APU. it runs 1:1.
      The memory controller on the APUs is not the same as the controller in the 3600x.

    • @TheSilviu8x
      @TheSilviu8x 3 года назад

      @@bradmorri not sure about non being the same, other than integration, but it's much better because it's on 7nm tsmc node vs 12nm glofo.

    • @bradmorri
      @bradmorri 3 года назад

      @@TheSilviu8x what? the /g chip has the memory controller on the 7nm monolithic silicon, the x is on the io die. the ?G chips will clock fclk to 2200 and thew X chips struggle to get 1900. that all has a bearing on bandwidth available for memory transfers

  • @starshock2002
    @starshock2002 3 года назад +3

    I'm not sure "spread its legs" is quite what you meant to say.

  • @BoHorror
    @BoHorror 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for benching on Cinebench R15 it's much appreciated.

  • @BLKBRDSR71
    @BLKBRDSR71 3 года назад +31

    "The 5600X is going to spread it's legs and show off".
    OH MY! 😂😂😂
    Good review.

  • @mini8964
    @mini8964 2 года назад +1

    5600g goes on insane sales, so imo even if you have a gpu already its still worth trying

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516
    @kasimirdenhertog3516 3 года назад +5

    The differences between these two are not merely specs, as in the X boosting higher and having more cache. The 5600G ‘Cezanne’ is a monolithic design and the 5600X ‘Vermeer’ a chiplet design. For people who care about idle/light load power consumption, this makes a world of difference. It is really impressive these G chips are positively frugal while offering similar performance to the X chips.

    • @aspzx
      @aspzx 2 года назад

      So just to be clear, which one offers low power consumption when idle, the G or the X?

    • @kasimirdenhertog3516
      @kasimirdenhertog3516 2 года назад +3

      @@aspzx the G. They have the monolithic design and don't need to waste energy like the X, that has to traverse the chiplets.

    • @amitbikram9031
      @amitbikram9031 2 года назад

      Which will be good for productivity tasks? Or both will do fine? Like chrome ps and some other apps

    • @kasimirdenhertog3516
      @kasimirdenhertog3516 2 года назад

      @@amitbikram9031 both! The X will have a slight edge because it boosts higher and has more cache. But I think the difference is single digits so for most people and use cases not noticeable.

    • @sprakful
      @sprakful 2 года назад +1

      @@kasimirdenhertog3516 so right now the x costs 202, g costs 184, 5600 costs 172. which is the most value for money?

  • @TFx2TV
    @TFx2TV Год назад

    Malcomb in the middle, taken me a while but that is who you remind me of

  • @blu8762
    @blu8762 2 года назад +1

    if you can afford the crazy prices of gpu's right now id go with 5600x, if not, 5600g is better till you get one

  • @xeik2477
    @xeik2477 3 года назад +3

    Well, you are comparing performance on AAA games that are really GPU bound and the bottleneck is the 3060, on CS go and Valorant that are really CPU bound, that's when you see the biggest difference, you need to use a RTX 3070 / 3080 or 6700XT to really show the true potencial and difference between the chips, 5600X is way faster then 5600G.

  • @asdolin42
    @asdolin42 3 года назад +35

    I think that to compare the L3 cache impact, testing both cpu at the same clockspeed might be a better idea.

    • @Taylormade2350
      @Taylormade2350 2 года назад +6

      The point is not to try and make it even the point is to show how they both perform out of the box.

  • @dane4890
    @dane4890 Год назад

    I just bought the 5600G for my sons computer, i think he will be happy with it, i bought a RX 6600 8GB and 16 GB 3200mhz to go with it+ a 24" Asus Tuff monitor with 1ms and 144hz. Then he can upgrade at a later stage i think it is a good beginner computer and my budget is pretty low.

  • @pineapplepizza5733
    @pineapplepizza5733 3 года назад +1

    Hi Brett, from Pretoria South Africa

  • @matheusantos18
    @matheusantos18 2 года назад

    Thanks for the vid, that was great and thansk for the CSGO tips!

  • @Jeremy_Hill_2020
    @Jeremy_Hill_2020 Год назад

    I recently bought a Phanteks G360A tower so I can finally build a PC & since I'm on a budget (will upgrade to even better specs in the future), I was thinking of the 5600G
    for an actual graphics card, I at least want a RTX 3060 but that's like $300+

  • @Got2bp
    @Got2bp 2 года назад

    Got my 5600x for 160 brand new so I couldn’t pass up on it. Paired w a RX 6600. So far so good.

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 3 года назад

    Appreciate the hard work 😊 to make this video.

  • @mckrackin5324
    @mckrackin5324 3 года назад +3

    Hmmm... Interesting. I'm going to put together a new PC because my old FX 8320e CPU is getting pretty dated. I'm going to keep my GPU for a while. It's a GTX 1070. This video makes me think the 5600g would be plenty for now. Thanks.

    • @lootangshellhouse2506
      @lootangshellhouse2506 3 года назад

      1070 is getting old

    • @mckrackin5324
      @mckrackin5324 3 года назад +2

      @@lootangshellhouse2506 Yeah but it's not $2000 and it competes with the 3060ti. Good enough for me and much better than my 980. lol

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 Год назад

      FX?
      I thought my Ryzen 3 3200g was getting dated.

    • @mckrackin5324
      @mckrackin5324 Год назад

      @@intermilan9731 To be honest, for gaming, I built a PC with a Ryzen 7 5700G and put the 1070 in for a comparison and it wasn't really any better than the 8320e. I did upgrade the GPU though. First a 6700XT and then a 3080. Much better now. lol

  • @aeromotive2
    @aeromotive2 3 года назад +2

    cool comparison.. great info on the 5600g!

  • @ZERARCHIVE2023
    @ZERARCHIVE2023 Год назад +1

    putted simple : G allows you to boot wihtout a graphics card.
    X is faster but no graphics so, if your graphics card dies, rip your system

  • @TashirRanchod-vk5ll
    @TashirRanchod-vk5ll 3 года назад

    thank you so much this really help me out

  • @fooferbob9230
    @fooferbob9230 3 года назад

    I always wondered this. Thanks.

  • @bobbrown8661
    @bobbrown8661 3 года назад +3

    5600G with its monolithic design certainly had the the potential to be better than the chiplet design on the X however suspect AMD wanted to maintain market segmentation and gimped the APU.

  • @krunchynoodles355
    @krunchynoodles355 2 года назад

    i want to play rdr2 on my pc and currently the 5600g is only like $140 while the 5600x is like over $200 so i think ima pick up the g. thank you for the video!

  • @Chemy.
    @Chemy. 3 года назад

    great comparison video man

  • @badredinnecheref4952
    @badredinnecheref4952 11 месяцев назад

    Subscriber here . thanks for the video ❤❤❤

  • @mimiko8577
    @mimiko8577 2 года назад +1

    imagine triple A esport title gets destroyed by some flash 3d unity looking game like valorant this is really confusing me on which I should get but still thank you for the comparison clarification it really helped me understand even for just a little bit but since I mostly play singeplayer I guess I'm going to 5600g

  • @TheNamesJT
    @TheNamesJT 3 года назад

    Thanks, looks like i'm going to be upgrading from the 2700 to the 5600x

  • @djnorth2020
    @djnorth2020 3 года назад +2

    120 vs 130 is pretty much a draw. Percentage is misleading sometimes. 200 vs 400... I don't think you can tell the difference even with a 360 Hz monitor.

  • @trafalgard.waterlaw8313
    @trafalgard.waterlaw8313 2 года назад

    Hello UFD Tech. Thanks for this video. It gave me a lot of ideas on how and which processor I will choose to build my own gaming pc. New subscriber here... Hoping for more videos like this. I have a tight budget so I will choose R5 5600G for now...

  • @NPC-jt3gp
    @NPC-jt3gp Год назад

    I get 4750 boosts at 80% utilization =) Guess they have improved things along the way

  • @x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9 3 года назад +1

    Dont forget FSR being rumored to support APUs

  • @Elmosdream78
    @Elmosdream78 2 года назад

    thanks for the info, this is my exact dilema and u helped me choose. 5600x so i can have some future proofing as speed is my thing as Im moving up from an 17 2600 prebuilt from futurshop from 2011

    • @intermilan9731
      @intermilan9731 Год назад +1

      The difference between G and X is too slight to be considered "future proof". You can get a Ryzen 7 and call that future proofing.

  • @thrace336
    @thrace336 3 года назад

    Thank you. This is just the video I needed.

  • @CygnusX1123
    @CygnusX1123 Год назад +1

    I wish I had bought the 5600 or 5600X instead of G because the G version has half the L3 cache. I didn't realize that before I purchased it. It should be called the 5500G. False advertising it is.

  • @JoesPhenomenal
    @JoesPhenomenal 3 года назад

    Hey.... great comparison. Appreciate ya, Man.

  • @godfatheryc8016
    @godfatheryc8016 3 года назад

    👍🏼 great info bro

  • @RamirDuria
    @RamirDuria 8 месяцев назад

    In my country the 5700x and 5600x are essentially the same price right now. May as well go with the R7 in this case.

  • @jerryknudsen7898
    @jerryknudsen7898 3 года назад +1

    Considering the price difference, still might get the 5600G. Right now it's $230 vs $299. I wonder if they had the same clocks what the Valorant difference would have been. I'm sure that cache was the big factor in the 50%, but I wonder how much of it.

    • @mattdev8021
      @mattdev8021 3 года назад

      Recently bought a 5600g with a 3070ti build 32gb or ram averaging 200fps on valorant If you have the extra $70 to spend would recommend the 5600x, looking at benchmarks alone you see a massive difference for $70

    • @callmetatan
      @callmetatan 2 года назад +2

      @@mattdev8021 Why you bought a 5600g with 3070ti, why not 5600x? I don't have a discrete GPU that is why I picked up 5600g but you had dgpu then why

    • @latibro21
      @latibro21 2 года назад

      @@callmetatan 🤣

  • @kurakurakii3792
    @kurakurakii3792 3 года назад

    basically giving up 16MB cache for a VEGA
    so it depend if youre need igraphic or you need more cache for whatever reason for
    i see this as a win for consumer choices
    IF THEY CAN BUY IT!

  • @sahilverma8084
    @sahilverma8084 2 года назад +1

    10 Fps Doesn't Matter Really I'm using 5600G I'm Satisfied😊

  • @dimitriskaracostas7210
    @dimitriskaracostas7210 Год назад +1

    So, I can buy either one Intel Core i3-12100 or a Ryzen 5 5600G for €110 and €120 respectively. According to most critics and reviews, the performance of each processor is pretty similar to each other. Since the price is practically the same and the i3 is newer and more energy efficient, the catch is the fact that the 5600G has 6 cores instead of 4 and its graphics are probably a bit superior. Lastly, no matter what my choice is going to be, I have found two similarly priced motherboards for either processor. Your help would be appreciated!

  • @prestonnalli3294
    @prestonnalli3294 10 месяцев назад

    So I had a 5600x for a couple years with my trusty 3070. Everything ran ultra 1080 above 100fps on 99% of games. I took it out and bent some pins on it (RIP) like an idiot. Replaced and got a 5600g (completely by accident) everything still ran good but slight frame drops here and there.
    Hogwarts and starfield came out and it runs good on 75% of the game. The other 25% it would drop to 15-20 fps (even on low settings, it would not improve) so I stopped playing those two and only played what did work. This week I got the 5600x on sale, because heck it, I wanted to go back to it and 130 bucks is a steal. I can say hogwarts and starfield no longer go below 75fps. 5600g seems to have been the issue all along. I am whole once more

  • @Ahsokaaep
    @Ahsokaaep 3 года назад +1

    Thanks alot, I have now decided to get the 5600g