Good video. Nice to have someone being helpful and talking through what they're doing, rather than having wanky background music and leaving you to suss out what they're doing from their actions - nicely done.
Quick tip, just use antifreeze, exactly same as pump armour, and can get 5lts for 20quid, used it for years in my impact 440 and airlessco's, can run it through those then stops any freezing issues over winter as well
Nice video mate, am looking into getting one of these. Great top tip on the wear down when using the tip in reverse to clear tip. Not heard anyone mention that yet.
Great vid. Just got the gx21.. wanting to know more about the gun filters you get in the gx range and pressure needed from lpff tips. Only doing misting coating while I learn. And lots of practice in my garage. Thanks.
I personally wouldn't run anything other than water based through an airless unit. I would use conventional hvlp/lvlp or a turbine hvlp due to them being easier to clean
Nice one, had one of these for ages but never used it more than twice, ball ache to clean it out....until I saw this video again !!!! been used on every job I do know, the finish is excellent takes me a few minutes to do what took me ages, your right about there's a fair bit to remember, but its not rocket science and takes 5 mins yo clean it, just need more dust sheets !! Great Video 👍
Hi, I personally would not use an airless for cabinetry spraying... Only if it was air assisted. I would most likely use a hvlp stage 5, or a decent compressor set up in a workshop. If I had to use an airless, it would be with a 310 tip mostly. The reason for not using standard airless is to reduce the amount of overspray /waste, and the fact it is too fast and has less control in tight spaces. All the best, Joe
Hi Joe, good vids mate. Can you do a video on how to approach spraying a new build house start to finish from mist coat to completing skirts, arc and frames etc spray finish? Also on bare plaster how many complete coats do you need once it is mist coated? Is it just 2 passes at 90 degrees to each other as per mist coat?
I've always been told that it's not safe to spray solvent through an airless so I've never done it tbh... Hvlp & compressor set up no problem... But I've not attempted with airless.
Just bought one and noticed you didn’t mention the filter, not the gun filter but the filter inside where you attach the hose by the pressure gauge. Do you use that filter or just leave it out? It’s not convenient to get to, also I wondered if it might cause stress on that small pump motor to push paint through that filter and the gun filter properly..maintaining proper pressure.
Tbh ive only ever replaced that once( a wjile ago now and it is awkward), and the gun filter not so many times but i don't spray on a weekly basis. Not having a manifold attached like bigger models does effect the max pressure slightly apparently, and does mean there is little more chance of tip blockages. You can actually have a manifold fitted to this sprayer.
@@JoeProDecor I also asked Sprayaholic, who uses it a lot, and he says he just leaves that manifold filter out. I agree and will rely on straining the paint and the gun filter.
Good video thanks. What I'm wondering is how long you can leave the machine idle with (water based) paint in the gun and the system? while you have lunch, overnight, couple of days? If you were going to leave it a while what precautions would you take, maybe wrap the gun up, leave it in a bucket of water? Thanks
Hi, i personally dont leave material in the pump any longer than the shift im working....ive heard others doing so, but i wouldnt recommend it tbh....i always flush the material out after each use, and if i have to wait a few hours inbetween drying times...i just remove the guard and tip , and cover the gun . Cheers, Joe
Not sure about tile paint, but it can spray masonry paint thinned a little. I wouldnt recommend this for spraying masonry though as it will put it under more strain. I would go with a bigger pump.
Hi Andy, it is fantastic for professional work... Its just not up to day in, day out use tbh. It sprays most emulsions without trouble although I do usually have to thin slightly for masonry paint just to avoid putting too much strain on it. I don't spray that often so it's perfect for me on the odd refurb job, or large domestic. You might want to consider the gx21ff if you plan on spraying emulsion more than trim paints Cheers, Joe
If you are doing new builds, or spraying on a regular basis, I recommend the graco 390 classic as a, starting point. The bigger the pump, the less stress there is on the pump.... Its a bit like a car engine really.
Joe I’m in the market for a sprayer to do walls and ceilings which one would you recommend the FF or the 21 the GX FF is marketed as ideal for trim and doors but I see you doing walls so would the GX21 be better for me
The gx21 is better suited to spraying larger area's (over anything that takes more than 5 litres really as the hopper on the gxff means refilling more often compared to working straight out of a 10 or 15 litre tub when spraying emulsion. Tbh... I have the tubs lined up and simply pour into the hopper as and when... And because the gxff is ideal for Woodwork ect... It's the perfect pump for me. They both do the same job so it's just whether you prefer to fill the hopper or work straight from a tub.
JoeProDecor cheers Joe based on your info I’ll go with the gfxx I just like the hopper thanks again for replying and keep them vids coming I love them. Go easy buddy 👍🏻
Great informative video Joe. My question is, have you sprayed water based (not acrylic) undercoat, gloss or satin with your machine and how successful was it? Thanks.
Yes very successful, and requires little or no thinning like hvlp or xvlp.....but.....the only downfall is generally more overspray/waste, and you have to be alot faster with your technique to avoid too much going on and causing runs. The only paints I have had issues with are hybrids as they tend to cause tip blockages. This is also more likely with these paints on this particular pump because there is no manifold filter. Thanks, and all the best, Joe
Mate your vid saved me haha didnt have a clue how to clean it. What filter would you use in the gun if your spraying zinser bullseye 123? 60 mesh or 100? Only 2 i've got mate
Hi Andy, I will do one next time we have a spray job, but we dont actually do many spray jobs compared to brush and roller. But tbh, it's not too different from this video when setting up. The line has to be ran through to clear the lubricant from the factory in the same way you clean it after use. Many thanks, Joe
I'd say always worth the extra for a bigger pump if you are going to use it more often. But this gxff is fantastic for the money. Occasional use and very versatile
Great video and thanks for posting ! Do you use as much White Spirit/Turps cleaning out oil paint ? and do you reuse most or all of your spirits ? I'm thinking of getting one of these for both oil and water based for woodwork, thanks again
Hi there , I only use airless for water based paints as there are health and safety risks when using oil....somethinvvto do with the pump having to be earthed. Thank you for your comment 👍
@@JoeProDecor thanks for the reply Joe, much appreciated,I didn't know that, I'll check it out further cheers 👍 P.s would love to see you doing woodwork with it at some stage
Hi there, yes I have...you have to be really quick with an airless...but works really well with experience. It's best to use a smaller tip on spindles like a 108/110...then go onto a 208/210 when you get used to it. But I used a fussy bloke 4 inch sleeve on these and layed off as benjamin moore scuff x flattens off really quickly
Sometimes in domestic properties, it's more hassle than it's worth spraying...especially when the clients are in the property as all the doorways need masking off. Plus you have to consider how much more paint you will need when spraying, and benjamin moore is very expensive as it is
@@JoeProDecor hi mate, Cheers yes I've sprayed woodwork finish before when I leaved in Canada, but it's years ago , so out of pactice, but sure be fine getting back to it, I'm going to use it on site, and run electricity cable to the sprayer instead or the 110 V which should have.
No as far as i know, they are all that loud. The bigger units msy well be louder in fact. Ive used the bigger graco 795 unit and that was at least the same, or louder.
The 390 is more expensive becsuse it has a bigger pump, and a built on manifold filter. The bigger pumps can produce more pressure resulting in being able to spray thicker material, or work less vigorously to spray the same thickness material. A bigger pump will be under less srain meaning it can last longer and run more continously. Having a manifold filter means it will minimise the risk of getting tip blockages.
Great video , I just bought one . Where do I get graco armour from mate ? How do I know which tips are finer finish etc ? All the ff numbers are mind boggling 😂😂😂😂
Good video. Nice to have someone being helpful and talking through what they're doing, rather than having wanky background music and leaving you to suss out what they're doing from their actions - nicely done.
Thank you! I've referred to your video several times to refresh my memory each time I start a new spraying project.
Quick tip, just use antifreeze, exactly same as pump armour, and can get 5lts for 20quid, used it for years in my impact 440 and airlessco's, can run it through those then stops any freezing issues over winter as well
Just brought one of these. This was soo much help. If I ever bump into you I owe you a beer (or 10) thanks pal
No problem at all 👍 this is why I do these video's tbh...it was a good choice
Thank you very much for this video!!!! I just bought mine and the sales person never called me to set up an appointment to learn how to use it!!
I'm glad it's been useful and it's a great little machine so enjoy using it 👍
Nice video mate, am looking into getting one of these. Great top tip on the wear down when using the tip in reverse to clear tip. Not heard anyone mention that yet.
Just bought GX21 with hopper and trim😎 wanted to make sure I do everything right from the off and this helped me 👍
Cheers
Great vid. Just got the gx21.. wanting to know more about the gun filters you get in the gx range and pressure needed from lpff tips. Only doing misting coating while I learn. And lots of practice in my garage. Thanks.
Thank you for explaining clearly. Just got gx19.
I’m thinking if I just change the filters and run some whater true it couple of times that may do it and no damage caused . What do you think?
Why what's the issue with it?
can I use this model to BIN Prime kitchen cabinets? also what tip would u use to spray kitchen cabinets?
I personally wouldn't run anything other than water based through an airless unit. I would use conventional hvlp/lvlp or a turbine hvlp due to them being easier to clean
Just the main basics on how to use the spray unit etc 👍🏻
Brilliant video fella, new to spraying so these basics are a great help.
Thanks for the tips, first attempt spraying my shiplap house tomorrow 😁
Very easy to understand. Good job👌🏼
Nice one, had one of these for ages but never used it more than twice, ball ache to clean it out....until I saw this video again !!!! been used on every job I do know, the finish is excellent takes me a few minutes to do what took me ages, your right about there's a fair bit to remember, but its not rocket science and takes 5 mins yo clean it, just need more dust sheets !! Great Video 👍
Cheers Andy, yes its a brilliant little workhorse for sure...and by having a system and sticking to it, reduces the cleaning time dramatically 👍
Thanks for video. Would you use this gx19 to refinish kitchen cabinet doors for fine finish? If yes, what tip would you use? 210 or 310? Thanks
Hi, I personally would not use an airless for cabinetry spraying... Only if it was air assisted. I would most likely use a hvlp stage 5, or a decent compressor set up in a workshop.
If I had to use an airless, it would be with a 310 tip mostly.
The reason for not using standard airless is to reduce the amount of overspray /waste, and the fact it is too fast and has less control in tight spaces.
All the best, Joe
Hi Joe do you know if the GXFF is capable of spraying DemiDekk water based paint?
I've never sprayed demidekk, but I presume it is capable of spraying it tbh. It can spray masonry paint with just a little thinning so should be fine.
Great video just bought it going to use it this Saturday really helpful. How do you get to all the filters?
Can we use 2k paint do u have any idea?
Just what I needed, just bought the gx21 thanks
Hi Joe, good vids mate. Can you do a video on how to approach spraying a new build house start to finish from mist coat to completing skirts, arc and frames etc spray finish? Also on bare plaster how many complete coats do you need once it is mist coated? Is it just 2 passes at 90 degrees to each other as per mist coat?
Hi Ben, unfortunately I don't spray new builds. If I were to spray a new build, I would mist coat, prep, woodwork, ceiling and wall's in that order.
Hi Joe, can the gx FF also spray solvent based if so can you alternate between the two after cleaning it through?
I've always been told that it's not safe to spray solvent through an airless so I've never done it tbh... Hvlp & compressor set up no problem... But I've not attempted with airless.
Thanks for a Good video, super helpful.
Just bought one and noticed you didn’t mention the filter, not the gun filter but the filter inside where you attach the hose by the pressure gauge. Do you use that filter or just leave it out? It’s not convenient to get to, also I wondered if it might cause stress on that small pump motor to push paint through that filter and the gun filter properly..maintaining proper pressure.
Tbh ive only ever replaced that once( a wjile ago now and it is awkward), and the gun filter not so many times but i don't spray on a weekly basis.
Not having a manifold attached like bigger models does effect the max pressure slightly apparently, and does mean there is little more chance of tip blockages. You can actually have a manifold fitted to this sprayer.
@@JoeProDecor I also asked Sprayaholic, who uses it a lot, and he says he just leaves that manifold filter out. I agree and will rely on straining the paint and the gun filter.
Cheers for that mate. I’m doing a 150m2 self build. I want one for interior and exterior. I stumble across a gx21 on eBay. Never seen one before.
The gx21 is basically the same pump but without a hopper
Good video thanks. What I'm wondering is how long you can leave the machine idle with (water based) paint in the gun and the system? while you have lunch, overnight, couple of days? If you were going to leave it a while what precautions would you take, maybe wrap the gun up, leave it in a bucket of water? Thanks
Hi, i personally dont leave material in the pump any longer than the shift im working....ive heard others doing so, but i wouldnt recommend it tbh....i always flush the material out after each use, and if i have to wait a few hours inbetween drying times...i just remove the guard and tip , and cover the gun .
Cheers, Joe
Thanks 🙋🏼♂️🏴👍🏻
Joe, would you happen to know if this could handle roof tile paint + 30m 1/4” hose?
Not sure about tile paint, but it can spray masonry paint thinned a little.
I wouldnt recommend this for spraying masonry though as it will put it under more strain. I would go with a bigger pump.
Great video. I just got the us version GX19 and it's my first airless. Thanks for the insight
Hi, how did you find the gxff as a professional decorator? Every where I've read recommends it for DIY type use. Thank you 👍
Hi Andy, it is fantastic for professional work... Its just not up to day in, day out use tbh. It sprays most emulsions without trouble although I do usually have to thin slightly for masonry paint just to avoid putting too much strain on it.
I don't spray that often so it's perfect for me on the odd refurb job, or large domestic.
You might want to consider the gx21ff if you plan on spraying emulsion more than trim paints
Cheers, Joe
If you are doing new builds, or spraying on a regular basis, I recommend the graco 390 classic as a, starting point.
The bigger the pump, the less stress there is on the pump.... Its a bit like a car engine really.
Thank you for your reply 👍 And it backs up what I was thinking, cheers mate
Joe I’m in the market for a sprayer to do walls and ceilings which one would you recommend the FF or the 21 the GX FF is marketed as ideal for trim and doors but I see you doing walls so would the GX21 be better for me
The gx21 is better suited to spraying larger area's (over anything that takes more than 5 litres really as the hopper on the gxff means refilling more often compared to working straight out of a 10 or 15 litre tub when spraying emulsion. Tbh... I have the tubs lined up and simply pour into the hopper as and when... And because the gxff is ideal for Woodwork ect... It's the perfect pump for me. They both do the same job so it's just whether you prefer to fill the hopper or work straight from a tub.
JoeProDecor cheers Joe based on your info I’ll go with the gfxx I just like the hopper thanks again for replying and keep them vids coming I love them. Go easy buddy 👍🏻
Hi joe, when changing material, do you tend to flush all through like this or is this just at the end of the day?
Hi yes I flush through when changing material too
nice one mate just want I needed cheers for taking the time to share
No problem at all 👍
Thank you for making and sharing!
Thank you for watching 👍
Great informative video Joe. My question is, have you sprayed water based (not acrylic) undercoat, gloss or satin with your machine and how successful was it? Thanks.
Yes very successful, and requires little or no thinning like hvlp or xvlp.....but.....the only downfall is generally more overspray/waste, and you have to be alot faster with your technique to avoid too much going on and causing runs.
The only paints I have had issues with are hybrids as they tend to cause tip blockages. This is also more likely with these paints on this particular pump because there is no manifold filter.
Thanks, and all the best, Joe
There are pros and cons to all different spraying methods when comparing.
@@JoeProDecor thanks for the advice mate much appreciated 👍
Mate your vid saved me haha didnt have a clue how to clean it. What filter would you use in the gun if your spraying zinser bullseye 123? 60 mesh or 100? Only 2 i've got mate
The black one 🤣
Hi, I'm looking at buying one of these, please could you do a video on how to set it up and get it spraying. Thanks
Hi Andy, I will do one next time we have a spray job, but we dont actually do many spray jobs compared to brush and roller.
But tbh, it's not too different from this video when setting up. The line has to be ran through to clear the lubricant from the factory in the same way you clean it after use.
Many thanks, Joe
Would you recommend this machine? Or is the 390 worth the extra?
I'd say always worth the extra for a bigger pump if you are going to use it more often.
But this gxff is fantastic for the money. Occasional use and very versatile
If I was doing more commercial work, larger areas, or using it day in day out...I would go for a 495 minimum
I bought a Wagner 3.21. Same machine as a Titan 440i. 👍🏻
Great video and thanks for posting ! Do you use as much White Spirit/Turps cleaning out oil paint ? and do you reuse most or all of your spirits ? I'm thinking of getting one of these for both oil and water based for woodwork, thanks again
Hi there , I only use airless for water based paints as there are health and safety risks when using oil....somethinvvto do with the pump having to be earthed. Thank you for your comment 👍
@@JoeProDecor thanks for the reply Joe, much appreciated,I didn't know that, I'll check it out further cheers 👍
P.s would love to see you doing woodwork with it at some stage
Hello Joe ,have you sprayed woodwork with it and if so whats it like ?
Hi there, yes I have...you have to be really quick with an airless...but works really well with experience. It's best to use a smaller tip on spindles like a 108/110...then go onto a 208/210 when you get used to it.
But I used a fussy bloke 4 inch sleeve on these and layed off as benjamin moore scuff x flattens off really quickly
Sometimes in domestic properties, it's more hassle than it's worth spraying...especially when the clients are in the property as all the doorways need masking off.
Plus you have to consider how much more paint you will need when spraying, and benjamin moore is very expensive as it is
@@JoeProDecor hi mate, Cheers yes I've sprayed woodwork finish before when I leaved in Canada, but it's years ago , so out of pactice, but sure be fine getting back to it, I'm going to use it on site, and run electricity cable to the sprayer instead or the 110 V which should have.
The xvlp 5000 is very good in tight and intricate areas and gives more control
@@JoeProDecor good to know bud ,cheers
Great Vid many thanks
Damn, these GX’s units are super loud. Is that why the Graco 390 + models are more expensive?
No as far as i know, they are all that loud. The bigger units msy well be louder in fact.
Ive used the bigger graco 795 unit and that was at least the same, or louder.
The 390 is more expensive becsuse it has a bigger pump, and a built on manifold filter. The bigger pumps can produce more pressure resulting in being able to spray thicker material, or work less vigorously to spray the same thickness material. A bigger pump will be under less srain meaning it can last longer and run more continously.
Having a manifold filter means it will minimise the risk of getting tip blockages.
@@JoeProDecor thanks Joe! Appreciate your input very much. Very helpful
Great video , I just bought one .
Where do I get graco armour from mate ?
How do I know which tips are finer finish etc ?
All the ff numbers are mind boggling 😂😂😂😂
Thanks fella how do u find this machine
Superb machine Tony! Its very versatile.... And its never missed a beat
Brilliant video !!
Thanks Peter, hope it helps 👍
Thanks. Got the gx19 and this helps.
Absolute legend joe thank you 😃😃
When do you do the ‘Priming’ !?? What about when you want to use 3 different colours !?? 😕😨😰🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Hi Jamie, you prime the pump every time you spray a new material , change colour, set up or clean up after use.
All the best, Joe
When using a different colour, the pump needs to be rinsed through to remove existing colour.
Emptying it on the grass ...hahaha. Where's the "I killed the grass video" ?
🤣🤣The grass has thrived since then
@@JoeProDecor lol, awesome.
how much is that joe
Hi Robert, you can get one for around £750-800 including now
thanks joe
Brilliant video!