Atheist said he had to go catch a train... then next minute he's seen In the background debating.. lol he couldn't handle the heat. Not even in the snow
Quran, chapter 7 verse 146: "Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right - them will I turn away from My signs: Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them; and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way; but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt. For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them."
Book of Atheist, chapter 8 verse 69: "And he who arrogantly tells you that you must believe, even without evidence, is living in denial and ignorance. Ask upon him, why out of the thousands of man made gods, he believes blindly in the one who his family has told him to believe in. Yes, a man of god must need a Shepard to keep him in line , for a man of god is a sheep and does not indulge in thinking" Richard Dawkins, peace be upon him.
Anthony Felix Quran, chapter 2 verse 256: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." There's no "you must believe" in Islam, whether you believe in god or not that's up to you, and whether you believe or not that doesn't change the fact that this universe didn't happen by coincidence and definitely didn't make itself.
@@thevigilant266 you have no evidence to prove whether the universe made itself or not. If you believe the universe had to be made because everything needs something to create it , who created the creator? And who is the creator.. Allah, god , the juju on the mountain? You can throw as many quotes from a fictiouus book all you want but it doesn't convince rational thinkers.
Anthony Felix First of all, you need to be deeply thinking in the rational in order for you to come to a conclusion that there's a creator. YES, there are millions of people who believe in god just because they grew up in a religious environment, but that's not all-time case. There are thousands of atheists who reverted to Islam after deep studies and deep thinking. Second of all, if the creator is created then how that makes him a creator? The universe has to be caused by an uncaused being. Look, you can call yourself a scientist or rational or whatever you wanna call yourself, but you must know that rational people are open minded to discuss other people respectfully and understand different point of views of others. Coming towards people arrogantly won't do you any good, it only consumes your credibility. For the sake of discussion, can you explain how and why this universe existed?
Anthony Felix Watch this discussion between a smart atheist and a smart Muslim in the speaker's corner. The discussion is split into two parts Part 1 ruclips.net/video/VXj5nrLjAr8/видео.html Part 2 ruclips.net/video/f3263oZIeLs/видео.html
Truthfully, can you really just rely upon random events to process everything in our life as how your science goes to explain the origins of our universe when in fact they also uses random as an answer for the argument which is childish.....can i say that 2 + 6 randomly equals to 600? No so dont make it as facts! The life we hace here is not some random thing...
@@firzanwolfred6112 Comparing maths to the randomness of the universe is like comparing weighing a puppy to a volcanic explosion. We don't know if the universe certainly is random, but we don't know for sure. Even if it wasn't random, that doesn't necessitate God. We don't need God to explain gravity or rain do we? If the universe is random, that's fine. A forest fire can occur randomly can it not? Does it require God? No.
How is that different from any muslim this fellow would meet. Virtually ALL theists insist, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, that their personal relationship with their god, is all that there is; and IS true. This is the dishonest starting point of conversations with religious adherents.
If the answer from the atheist is “it simply is” and he’s satisfied waking up each day with that conclusion, then why can’t he be satisfied with god simply saying “be”
Diana - As an atheist.. The shit we have to hear from religious people XD I wish you could experience giving up on religion.. and you would see how ironic that statement is.. not saying that Atheists can't be cocky, because indeed they can.. but atheists have suffered persecution and ridicule in the name of 1000's of different religions and gods for 1000's of years.. and you would understand if you saw religion from our perspective. To us.. you are believing in a grim fairy tale.. and if that feels like ridicule to you.. then i'm sorry you feel that way.. but it won't change how we see it..
@@gxqx797 - Ah.. okay.. that tells me nothing.. so which god am I wrong about this time?.. let me guess.. Shiva Brahma and Vishnu. oh.. you meant the one YOU were brainwashed into believing.. cool.. religious people never fail to dissapoint when it comes to bad arguments and horrible attempts at logic.... actually.. you are the one who is wrong.. your god does not exist.. and I say that with 100% conficence.. I am about as afraid of your god as I am of the fairy godmother..
@@blahfuckdig lol u mean 100% arrogance. Why cant there be 1 god but that certain people brainwashed other people into believing other god(s) for self-gain, power, control etc? You think you're such a genius that you're seeing something sooo clear that the rest of (theist) humanity is missing? If it was so clear we wouldnt have this issue. Theres no way you can 100% confidence when i gaurentee the scientist or philosophers you were inspired by wouldnt say that (unless dawkins or hitchens or harris and the like inspired you, which it seems like it is. You saying you have ultimate confidence just proves to me your disingeniousness.
Atheists typical style...first try to act smarter than the rests then resort to "i dont know i dont know" to obvious questions bcos they know it will lead to god
first you have to prove a God exist, We are still waiting on that. Also, I don't know is more honest than.. GOD DID IT, cause you still haven't PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE THAT IT EXIST!. A book, a pedophile and your own personal feelings do not count.
Atheists recognize the fact that everything that exists has a cause except everything (the universe) doesn't. There lies their inconsistency. That's why every argument with an atheist ends with him becoming an agnostic.
well at least atheists are critically thinking. religious people are just told to believe in their religions and have no proof or evidence of what they believe in. pathetic
lol the corniest comment of the day, congrats. science and math thought me to think critically actually. and btw great thinkers of the past most of the time did not have a choice but to be religious. Atheism and any perceived attach on the religion was punishable by death (e.g. Galilio and many many many others).
"I don't know" The most honest answer one can ever give. It's a common answer because there are things in this world we don't know yet. To claim you know something without evidence Is the same as lying.
Or as I like to call it, an honest answer. Nothing wrong with admitting you don't have an answer to a question rather than just relying on faith, which is the belief in something in the absence of proof...
Not backing anyone up here, and not bashing either side. “I don’t know” is a better response than copping out to God on everything you don’t understand. That God cop out doesn’t work anymore. Atheists have disproven God more than a couple times. The other side has done nothing but lose credibility. Until there is factual evidence on both sides, I can’t take a side.
Agreed, but we muslims has the highest probable answer based on observation, reason and rational deductions even though we have never seen outside of universe, for the same approach we believe our brain does exist, or our father is indeed our biological father, and believe we all have ancestors eventhough we never really see our brain, or never go for DNA test, or never see our ancestors. The existence of a creator of universe is not the only things human believe using reasons, basically almost everything we believe in life without really seeing or experiment ourselves, rather we believe on others through observations and reasoning.
Other religion concept of being a powerful creator is contradicting and confusing, like god 3 in 1 but equal to 1, or there are many gods in human form with attributes that doesnt resemble and all-knowing and all powerful attribute of a creator who able to create a complicated massive powerful system yet were finely tuned and perfectly ordered for its purpose, which then able to produce life within the universe. Islam concept of a creator is the most logical explanation of how a creator will be, if he does exist.
What im saying, Islam has the most highest probable answer of how a creator should be and has the most logical definition of a creator of universe its He does exist. For other religion their answers simply messed up and illogical. Its not about who first, its about which one is the truth.
Islam has been in existence since time immemorial. .since Adam and not 1400 years a go..Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is just the seal of all the Prophets..the last of the Prophets....and God confirmed at the time of the Prophet that.."This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favour upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion" (Quran:Surah Al Maidah,the 5th Surah verse 3)
Subhan Allah, i wanted to listen more to that last fellow. He seemed knowledgeable. Rather calm as well. He was asking interesting questions without seemingly making hasty assumptions. Besides Dawah, i love it when debates somehow sometimes lead to an open-minded discussion where both parties have something enriching & thought-provoking to share. :)
This Muslim with the ufc hat seems like a lot of my Muslim friends. Intelligent ( although I don’t believe in the Koran at all ) interesting and very respectful of others opinions which is very important. More of the Muslim men on here should take a leaf out of his book. 👍🏻
The Elite Killa Hey there I also have a lot of Muslim friends and they are very respectful of others and thoughts. I do not believe in god but I honestly have no issues with people if they choose to. Here on RUclips you get slot of Muslim claiming that religion is the only way (Christians also) and that without god people are bad. I just think that people or myself for example don’t need a religion to make me s better human being. It should just come naturally.
The Qur'an is God's Words: In the name of Allah(God), The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. All besides those believers who have pure faith, irrespective of which religious background they claim to have come from, merely a single sign would suffice them to believe in the existence of One God, whether it be a sign concerning a scientific phenomenon or any other sign. Where as, on the other hand, there are people who would never believe even if a thousand signs are presented to them, such people would never accept faith and as such they are the Rejectors; there may be a third sect/group/category of people who may be convinced if proper efforts are made, either by means of science and technology, or by reasoning and with logic or by any other technique. As today is the age of science and technology, the best approach we have is the use of scientifically proven and established facts, excluding hypotheses and theories (which lack solid evidence) in order to convince an atheist or an agnostic or any other individual who may not believe that the Qur'an is the revelation of God, as no human being could ever mention such scientific facts in the Qur'an, 14 centuries back which the humanity has unveiled/discovered very recently,with the help of rapidly growing technology and the advances made by the modern scientific world. Majority of the people who disagree with the fact that the Qur'an has been sent down by God, revealed to the last and final messenger and servant of God, i.e. prophet Mohammad (pbuh), when asked about the reason they disbelieve, what they come up with is that they falsely claim that the Qur'an must have been written by prophet Mohammad himself as they do not have any better explanation for not believing in the Qur'an or Allah. With the help of mathematics, we can refute their baseless claim (that Muhammad is the author of the Qur'an, they even fail to realise that he was an Ummi,i.e. he was unlettered/illiterate!). Nevertheless,even for the sake of an argument, let us be kind enough to give them a benefit of doubt, and say that may be, prophet Muhammad wrote the Qur'an (though we never agree!). Now we shall refute their false claim with the help of what we know in mathematics as 'The Probability Theory'. Probability is basically concerned with the likelihood or the chance of something happening/taking place or not happening for which we make certain guesses/flukes or predictions at random and calculate the chance of our choice or guess coming true as a number or percentage. Probability has a range of 0-1. Having a probability of 0 implies the impossibility of the occurence of the event we are dealing with, on the other hand, probability of 1 means that the event is sure to occur, thus affirming a 100% possibility of the occurrence of the event we are dealing with. Any number in between would indicate that the event may either occur or not. For example,if you toss or flip a coin(fair), there are(a total of), two possibilities, it may either land up with a head or tail, whatever choice you make the mathematical chance/probability of your guess being rightat random is 1 out of 2,i.e. 1/2 or 50%. Further, if you have a die (having 6 faces) and you roll it, the chance of your guess-number coming on the top is 1/6 as there are a total of 6 distinct choices to make. Similarly,if you roll the die 2 times in succession/consecutively or roll two dice simultaneously (both yield the same result, these are termed as 'independent events' meaning that the two (or more) events have no influence/impact on one another; they yield independent results) what you'll see is, the probability of both your choices being right at the same time is merely (1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/36 which is < 3%. Now,if you roll the die 3 times successively,the chance of you making the right choice all three times,just at random is (1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/216 which is < 0.5%. Let us now consider the compound event of tossing the coin 2 times and rolling the die 4 times,the probability of you making the correct choices all 6 times is therefore (1/2)×(1/2)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)=(1/2)^2 × (1/6)^4 =(1/4)×(1/1296)=1/5184 which is ~ 0.02%. Let me generalize the method for you. If you repeat an experiment for n different times and all of which must deal with independent events as in our case here, fortunately; and you have a probability of, say 'p' for each of the individual events and of course 0 < p < 1. Now you want to calculate the probability of you making the correct choice all 'n' times i.e. each time you making the right choice without a single mistake.. It is p^n,i.e. 'p' raised to the power of 'n'. For those who are good at maths, they can readily see that this number, p^n quickly reaches 0 when |p| < 1 and n is let increase!! Praise be to Allah SWT,all the Qur'anic verses that talk about scientific phenomena can be modelled as ' the independent events' in this very analysis of ours. And the holy Qur'an contains more than 1,000 (out of more than 6,000 verses in total) verses which speak about science. And more than 800 of which have already been supported by established scientific facts. 1. For example, the Qur'an says that the light of the moon is not its own light but rather, it is the reflected light of the sun (the moon reflects the light from the sun onto the earth), for this one people (at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an,i.e. at the time of the prophet) could have made two choices (if they were asked, hypothetically) i.e. the light of the moon could be the light of its own or it could be the borrowed light of the sun. 2. Similarly, the Qur'an talks about the spherical shape (more accurately, the geo-spherical shape, as the earth is slightly flattened at the poles and slightly bulging out at the equatorial region,i.e. the 'circle of maximum diameter'). People could have thought of various shapes for the earth such as flat, triangular,rectangular etc. So, lfor this particular one, the number of choices would be more than 2. 3. The Qur'an states that the Sun also rotates (about its own axis)...people couldn't even have thought of this, at the time of the prophet as this one is a very very recent discovery, we came to know about this hardly a few decades earlier. So even for this particular one, there would be 2 choices to make, the Sun may either rotate or not! (For the sake of argument only!) 4. The Qur'an talks, in a nutshell, about the birth of our universe which the scientists today call the Big Bang, it may be right or wrong. ..So for this too, we would have 2 choices. 5. The Qur'an talks about the interstellar matter, called 'plasma' by the scientists. Again, could be right or wrong. ..So 2 choices for this too. 6. The Qur'an states that our universe has been expanding. Again, could be right or wrong. .So for this too, we have 2 choices. And so on.. The Qur'an talks about scientific phenomena,over and over again, for more than 1,000 times. Each verse which talk about a scientific phenomenon, can be attributed a number of choices we can think of, as above. These choices vary, from 2 (which is the least/minimum number of choices) to larger numbers, for instance,in the case of the earth, we could think of more than a dozen of possible shapes! Let's restrict ourselves to 2 (as the number of choices), clearly seeing that even the least number of choices would give us the desired result and if we consider more number of choices, we get to the result even more quickly. As a challenge to the people, I'll prove my logic even with the least number of choices as the Qur'an, with no doubts, is the book of God. Proceeding with 2 choices as the flukes/guesses for each of the verses which speak about science, what we find is, the probability or the mathematical chance of one making the correct choice all 800 times, i.e. making the right choice for each of the verses each and every single time is... Using, probability = p^n with p = 1/2 and n = 800... Probability(P) = (1/2)^800 = 1/(2)^800 The number 2^800, i.e. 2 raised to the power of 800 is a very huge number though it may not appear so, so huge that the number 1/(2)^800 is literally negligible and is considered 0 (zero/nill) in practical mathematics. The number of choices that could be thought of,for the scientific verses of the Qur'an is not merely 2 as we have used above!! We could've used more than 2 choices in which case we'd have arrived at the answer of 0 even more quickly. So,even in the most probable case (using the least number of choices, i.e.2), the probability of the scientific verses being written in the noble Qur'an by (any) a human being is 0. The Qur'an,thus,can never be the work of a human. It must have come from a divine source. The only being Who could mention such facts in the Qur'an must be the Creator Himself Who possesses All The Knowledge. Peace be on you all.
@Casey Mays If you don'k know, how do you know there is no God? How can one be certain on that? It makes more sense to say you don't know if God exist or not. Is better to be agnostic than atheist. Yes indeed the answer of the year: I don't know. Ha ha ha. LOL
@Casey Mays this statement of yours is a paradox, you say you don't know, and yet you know with certainty that the universe came from nothing by nothing. Lol
William Solia I am sure in school you were taught to write your best guess even if you not sure of the answer. Tell me who has better chance of getting some marks from examiner? The person who writes I don’t know or someone who pen his best guess. Use your common sense to answer. You don’t live the rest of your life on I don’t know do you? Man made laws even tells you, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You see how dumb it is? I don’t know is the worst chances ha ha ha. Well I doubt if this will make any sense to you because you simple don’t know obviously
That literary doesn't make any sense. I understand you want to seem smart, but you might not be. Claims such as "since we don't know how the Universe came to be yet, it must be God" is not an argument.
@@yusifhuseini Actually it is. Argument is a set of logically correct statements that have a certain and concrete implications. You cannot prove something that cannot be validated, seen, observed or in any way detected. Though logic and faith aren't on a good terms it seems.
@@janchovanec8624 Your definition of argument is little bit bias but again when the atheist is confident to say he doesn't know why is he 100% sure to negate God? The agnostic approach makes more sense because they are more consistent to say they don't know whether it is God or not. Science has no way of validating soul or dreams yet still it is true and they exist.
LOL. A Tasbeeh is not an "innovation". It's a just another way to count the ritualistic praises. "Innovation" has to do with introducing a ritual or a belief that has no basis in the religion. A few other points: it's not that we as human beings can say with certainty that something cannot come from nothing. It's that it is metaphysically impossible prove either way, because in order to prove that something came from nothing, one would have to know how to distinguish between something coming from something else (contingency) which we can witness, and something coming from nothing which we cannot. It is also inexplicable and therefore irrational and so is completely outside of the realm of rational debate. It's effectively magic. If someone believes that something can come from nothing, there is no arguing with them, because they can effectively believe in anything, e.g., if a coin was flipped and instead of landing on its head or tail, it turned into a bird instead, as Hijab made the point. Which leads to the main point of the conversation: the explanation for the witnessed causal regularity (or teleology) that exists in Reality. This atheist effectively has no answer: "it is what it is". In other words, it's inexplicable to him, which means he effectively must submit to the irrationality of his position.
Exactly, what Islamophobes do is that they start with conclusions then work their way back to fit them against islam. May Allah protect us from ignorance.
Tasbih is not innovation for a different reason which is because the prophet saw allowed it when he saw others use it. However if he never allowed it and tasbihs were not used in his time then no doubt it would become a bidah.
isn't ironic that every single atheist who they claim that they know science and they know the universe thus god does not exist. but all answers they give " We dont know" Muslim : How did the universe come to existance Atheist : We dont know but I am 100% sure it wasn't GOD.
Isn't it ironic that you find it ironic when someone is being honest about not knowing an answer to something. Kinda beats being a lying asshat... Muslim: How did the universe come to existance Atheist: We don't know yet, we might never know, but just because we dont know you don't have the right to claim GOD did it either. Muslim: Well God did do it, it says so in this book Atheist: Well how do you know that book is correct Muslim: Well because, It's the word of GOD Atheist Well how do you know its the word of GOD Muslim: Because it says so in the book. Listen, When you have any evidence for a creator let us atheist know. We don't claim to know absolute truth so we might be intrigued at your information. Design argument is not a good argument to use: For one, you have to demonstrate before hand that It was GOD who designed us. So before you can even make the claim of design you have to prove your God exist and did design us. Then we have the problem of what design actually is, or rather how do you know its design since this is the only universe you have ever seen, the only earth, the only me, you.. ETC.. So how the hell can you know what design is if you have nothing to compare it to? We know a watch, a boat, a book has a maker because we have instances of watches, books, and boats being made by their creator and we can compare them to other watches, boats, and books as well. How many instances of design by God have we witnessed that is not in that crappy book of yours? I'll save you the time in typing the number ZERO for you.. So, how did the Universe came into existence? I can honestly tell you right now that WE DO NOT KNOW, but you don't either.
They DON'T know science. Their knowledge of science is only high school level. Actually, the more one knows about science the more they come closer to the conclusion of an ultimate designer, God.
I decline having any civil conversation with you on the grounds that it is impossible to have any type of conversation with you about religion or islam. Quoting the quran is as pointless as quoting Harry Potter as proof of wizards or quoting the bible as proof of Jesus. Also, just because a book has some scientific fact does not make it any more factual than another book with different TRUE Scientific facts. The Quran also states that Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse. No sir, we cannot have any type of discussion when your mind is already closed off to anything other than what your book of fairy tales says. I won't waste my time with someone who is that close minded. But hey, if you have proof of your God, I'd sure love to see it. Your book doesn't count as proof.
Michel Roque DNA is proof of an intelligent designer. Code must have a coder if you are computer literate. The earth and its perfect distance from the sun just in the habitable zone is proof that you are being protected. Death is proof that you are returning to someone. The universe's low entropy state (stability) is proof that it is being protected. Order cannot come from disorder as every physicist will tell you. If ppl dont believe in these as signs then even if God showed hismelf physically to them they still wouldn't believe he existed. Isn't it ironic how every civilisation has worshipped something in one way or another. We are spiritual beings gifted with intellect
That's the point. This is the way logic works. If you make a positive statement, an affirmative statement, you are burdened to prove it. We start with nothing. How did the universe come into being? You say God. We say prove it. If you respond with prove that it wasn't, that's fallacious. Not many people will say with 100% certainty that there is no way possible a creator created everything. Most atheists are agnostic atheists. You can't prove a god created the universe, and we won't believe what cannot be proven.
Well, if we were to know every single variable in the universe we could literally predict the future. But since we are not all knowing and we are limited we cannot factor in the variables in an equation and utilize that. This dictates that there is no such thing as random, because what is random to you is basically unpredictable. If i had all the variables at hand, again, i will be able to know what will happen. For instance, if i knew the charge of each ball on a table, the friction, the magnetic field, the electric field of anything surrounding all of these balls, the weigh of all these balls and their gravitiational pull to each other and the force that im going to hit the first ball with, and its angel and air resistance and and and.. i will surely predict the future without a mistake. Therefore, our universe is set with finite amount of variables that put the universe in its order. This shows that there is a creator and a code to his creation i believe.
Actually, no, you wouldn't be able to predict the future because the information contained in the universe is always increasing due to entropy, this is a good video that explains this ruclips.net/video/sMb00lz-IfE/видео.html
Raw Keeper umm I was there at the Aron Ra discussion with saboor , and it was quite humiliating .I felt bad for Aaron . Matter fact towards the end you will see Aron asking saboor show me where this appears in the book , and saboor shows him and he was just in shock .
I agree, I feel that Saboor gets to the point quicker instead of trying to win the game of semantics, which added nothing of substance to the discussion.
Either my English is weak or they're using really philosophical words. Edit: The first comment I read, someone's joking about not bringing a dictionary 😂
They are indeed engaging in a fairly logical debate. Both of them must've read a lot of philosophical books and are acquainted with Aristotelian concepts. The main partsthey are using are Metaphysics + Mahtematics + Epistemology. Sadly, it ended abruptly.
Matt OToole you don’t get it do you? It’s a metaphor for example if you didn’t comment on this I wouldn’t have known that you existed meaning if I have not met you or seen you, you don’t exist but in reality you do exist it’s the same because I don’t see god with my eyes doesn’t mean there’s no possibility of it existing that’s an atheist mentality. Once you wrap your head around what I just said you’re welcome.
No one says that maybe it is god But can you prove its god? Can you prove its the god we know the god you believe in the god you think exist and not any other supernatural being that just created the universe because it was bored?
@@yusifhuseini exept I can't disprove something that wasn't proven... The burden of proof is on you pal if you prove there IS a supernatural being that created the universe you still have two more steps 1 prove it's god 2 prove it's your god And admitting to not know is better than saying something without any evidence People tough Zeus is the one that caused thunder to form and I bet if we didn't know how it formed you would say the same exept instead of Zeus you'd say Allah or Jesus or whatever god your parents tough you to bleive in
@@saifsaif8352 Thanks for your reply but you straw man my argument. True the burden of the proof is on the one who made the claim. But what was my claim? You asked the question "But can you prove its god?" and I replied by asking if "Can you prove it is not God?" And my reply is your best answer is You don't know. I didn't make the claim it is God. You were vague as well with the word "maybe". For anyone to say God doesn't exist that's emphatic statement and he need to prove that. To say you just don't know doesn't answer why you came to the conclusion. Besides if you want proof of God existence there have been a lot of departs and discussions on that. No need to reinvent the will sure if you are interested you can look into that.
@@yusifhuseini oh so you didn't make the claim that it's god? So you don't know that it is god you just think that it is I didn't make any claims here I was skeptical about why he think it is god I didn't say it wasn't but I said he doesn't have enough evidence that it is god and not something else Also god was never proven to exist if if I told you unicorns exist however you said that there isn't enough evidence for you to bleive that they exist then should you be the one to disprove the existence of unicorns or is the burden of proof on me? There are many videos on this topic but 1 I can't watch all of them 2 I watched enough and still didn't find enough evidence to bleive in god I didn't straw men you're argument You said "can you prove it's not god?" Which implies that you think the burden of proof is on me which it isn't Your comment comfuse me a bit Do you think that god exists? Prove it If you claim that a supernatural being exist then the burden of proof is on you But if you don't claim god created the universe you don't bleive it did so you're an atheist Please make up your mind
Ah! What an unfortunate human being this atheist is! He's not eager to continue the conversation or answer Hijab's questions bcoz he knows these questions will surely lead him to the truth. See what Allah(swt) has said about this atheist and people like him:- Al-Baqarah 2:6 إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ سَوَآءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ English - Sahih International Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Al-Baqarah 2:7 خَتَمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَعَلَىٰ سَمْعِهِمْۖ وَعَلَىٰٓ أَبْصَٰرِهِمْ غِشَٰوَةٌۖ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ English - Sahih International Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.
g wainer Lmfao what of value has the athiest said. Whenever Muhammad made a point he said "I don't know". And if he had to leave why was lurking at 29:40 ? Stop trying to defend the undefendable.
🤣 man's got a twitch to his left cheek.... must've been feeling the heat in the snow... Lost the argument. He just got served. The smartass ran out of smarts. 😂😅😆😀🤣
In The Name of AllAH The Most Beneficent to All, and The Most Merciful to the Believers. قَالَ فَبِعِزَّتِكَ لَأُغْوِيَنَّهُمْ أَجْمَعِين "[Iblees] said, By your might, I will surely mislead them all." إِلَّا عِبَادَكَ مِنْهُمُ الْمُخْلَصِينَ "Except, among them, Your chosen SINCERE servants." (The most dangerous thing to Muslims today is the love of Fame, and Money that can sneak into ones heart, even without you Not being aware of it. Those two things can pollute ones judgement, and destroy ones hereafter. You can scream all day and night and say, "what im doing is for AllAH alone. In reality you hope what you are doing is for AllAH, but you don't know, and AllAH knows. It should make you really fearfull, and when you become fearfull of that simple fact, then your judgement improves, and the way you do things.)
Atheist : i know that something can't come from nothing and i don't know who maid the universe but its definitely not god 😂 + Who said i dont know therefore god ?
Atheist is someone who doesn’t believe in God. Could be because they don’t know (how the universe began etc etc) Someone who believes in god also doesn’t know but labels that as ‘It must be god.’ Both the atheist and the believer have access to the same resources as each other on planet Earth, but they both had different upbringings. Vast majority of people who are religious come from religious families... coincidence? Not saying it’s wrong but it’s always good to challenge your thinking.
Mr. Hijab: I don't know, therefore god. Specifically the one and only god that was strangely focussed on one part of the world, and had one of his angels talk to a merchant in a cave. And because I believe (read: 'know') this, I'm going to heaven and you're going to hell to suffer eternal punishment after you die. I'm sure of all this through using my senses, although I could not really see, smell, feel, taste or hear god. Because I know this is an insufficient epistemological method, I use the most reliable source of information anyone could have, namely: "Intuition". Now I'm going to follow my funny tummy to the mosque, because it tells me that the almighty god needs to be thanked and praised for the fifth time today. Have fun not knowing the origin of the universe, you silly unbeliever. Peace.
@@TOn-fx2gr Well, surely we don't come from a literal 'nothing' as in a vacuum devoid of any matter. The first living organisms on earth would've been single cell organisms. How they came into existence nobody really knows, but it is being researched at the moment. If we assume that there would be a god that created the universe, there's still no reason to believe in Islam or Judaism or Christianity or so. Anyone could claim to have spoken with the creator of the universe. and their claims would all have the same level of validity. The religious scriptures do not talk about the process of evolution. They simply claim that god created humans, while completely ignoring the long process of evolution. Like, what was the point of putting Neanderthals on the earth and letting them go extinct after a while?
Umer Raja lol scoffers don’t realize their misery and mindlessness is all they have. Allow them to bark and holler like the depraved animals they are. They will return to the state they desire.
The guy was defeated the moment he told him his name. He should have said "it doesn't matter" and stayed in the same posture. Further down in conversation he shouldn't have justified himself about what he thinks his purpose is.....huh. We need someone like Hitchens in this day and age.
"they simply are" "i don't know" "i don't know but it's definitely not god" His argument is not scientific nor philosophic. It's just dishonest person rejecting every possibility that there's somekind of creator/designer (he even straight forward mention God multiple times). This is not debate, dialog or conversation. It's just dumb person practicing his free speech.
Who cares what the dictionary definition is, you know what he meant. Unless you were attempting to just put him on the back foot. There are definitely "a truth" in the universe, on a macro scale. Either it happened or it didn't. There is no way you can possibly say that there was "causation" at the beginning of the universe or any other singularity. We don't know. All models break down at the beginning of time or at the centre of a black hole. Yes randomness exists. Most people do not understand randomness. Something that has a probability of zero happening. For example, rational numbers. If I asked you to select a number between 0 and 1 you have a zero probability of picking a rational number. However, there are infinite rational numbers. Finding patterns in randomness is misunderstanding randomness. The point is that there is no pattern. As a biological creature you will often find patterns that don't exist because you constantly seek patterns to reduce cognitive load. You quoted Laplace, he was around prior to relativity and quantum mechanics. Patterns exist because systems often find an equilibrium. If they never found an equilibrium you never had noticed that system.
Forget the atheist and the big bang. My argument is, If you are born in a Muslim family , you will very likely to be practising Muslim all your life, a hindu will be hindu all his life, a jew will be jew all his life, a Shia will be shi'a all his life.Another good example is, everyone that comes to speakers corner claims to be right and the other person is wrong. Exactly like this video, hijab is is clearly born in a Muslim family hence he is preaching Islam, and the other guy was born in a non Muslim family who's parents was most likely non practising parents Hence this white guy doesn't even believe in God. So basically through the perspective of muslims, all practising Muslim go heaven but the rest go hell. How is that fair?? The Muslim born child has an advantage as his influences of his parents, siblings to brush off on to him. Guaranteed this uploader is born in a Muslim family, it is clear just by reading the name of the you tube channel. Therfore It's a never ending circle. Pointless debate.
@@NightRyder-ph1sx True. But God(energy) is the one. Just many ways to connect with him. I think Islam is the best approach amongst others. Its upon the person what group of people he wanna join.
@@NightRyder-ph1sx not true. An atheist or Hindu or Christian or whatever has the same jump start as a person born into a Muslim family. The same information is available to a non muslim as to a muslim. I wouldn't argue with you that being born into a certain believe will make you hold it more dearly. But negating the fact that you can't reason and think logically for yourself and therefore changing your mind is false. You are exposed to the same information available to everyone, to aquire and seek knowledge in. Unfortunately not everyone takes there time to seek out and try to learn more about the other beliefs and therefore only stick within there own because they know "more" about it.
The atheist and mohammed had a great talk. Why are people here so rude to the atheist? There is no loser here except for the idiots in this comment section spreading hate.
@@carljohnson2194 insyallah may allah grant you jannah and make you life here and hereafter more simple than before, i pray for your guidance my brother
The atheist seemed more interested in semantics rather than actual substance. BTW the sun can be a star and still have the purpose/functionality of being crucial for life an Earth. These 2 statements can be true at the same time. In addition to this what is the distinction between "a truth" and "The Truth", and why bring it up? It added nothing to the conversation. Saying "I don't know" and "not God" are contradictory statements.
It’s annoying when someone in a debate is running around in circles avoiding answers to questions because they’re wrong in a sense.. Hijab will answer a question 50 times and whoever he is debating will ask that same question another 50 times saying it’s not answered
Salaam alaikum SCDawah folks, Does this stuff only happen on Sunday? I'm visiting from America soon, and want to meet the SCdawah and EFDawah channel brothers.
Gaga4Parma - Ok. Wow subhanallah, seems like these brothers upload news videos every day, I thought it was happening multiple times a week 😂 Thanks akhi
Forget catching a train .. Steve the atheist seeking free speech .. realised within a few seconds of talking to Mo Hijab that he was way out of his depth ... the arrogance quickly dissipates ... the sound of a deflating balloon ... followed by "I'll get my coat" ... Dear Steve, Islam frees the mind, body and spirit to follow THE TRUTH, objective and absolute. Hope you watch this again and ponder deeply on the points made in the discussion.
Lol this atheist was sharp, didn’t fall for Mohammed’s gish gallop even once. With all of Mohammed’s arguments all you can conclude is that constants in the universe exist, his arguments don’t prove that the constants “came from” or were “created by” anything. If anyone finds Mohammed’s arguments convincing to the question “does God exist?” Please educate yourself.
Wow that atheist destroyed this dude. I am NOT an atheist but his arguments were sound and this guy tried to lead arguments, shifted his baseline when that didn’t work, put forth unfalsifiable premises that do not have to be for things to work as is. So, instead of trying to sound smart and argue poorly, he should’ve just said ‘your way is probable and my way is possible, do you agree?’ Then that atheist would concede and admit the possibility of divine creation, or he would deny it showing his unwillingness to acknowledge other alternatives.
it does become an innovation if those beads themselves or the digital counter etc. is being made part of the deen. bid'ah is that which is added in the deen, making it part of the deen. like mawlid, it is made such that those who celebrate see it as a requirement in islam. so they added something new and made it their deen. or giving the tasbeeh beads a certain value in the deen like not letting a menstruating woman touch it (some people think like this, crazy i know). islamic schools, digital quran, tasbeeh etc. is not bid'ah because it is not something that is seen as part of the religion or from within religion. Rather these are tools to make it easy to practice that which is allready in the religion, without changing anything of it.
Andre Ramadhan I think you will find that his face smirking comes under the following category. It isn’t uncommon I have worked with a few people who have it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome
Good discussion leave as that Gonna have bias and not pitch perfect explanations for exception At least allhumdillah this is how things should be sorted in respect with all societies issues
Science can't test faith. It's simple. Iman is to believe in the unseen. Atheist think God is a concept..you can't try to explain to them faith, Iman. You just can't.. You warn them and move on.
The entire conversation on the topic of "nothing" is something us as humans most likely cant understand and cant comprehend, so it practically goes against all religious arguments that something cant come out of nothing. We simply cannot understand "nothing" , end of story.
This dude has to have his presuppositions like there has to be something outside of the universe to make his points. Remember religious people, you have to demonstrate the existence Of a god before going down this rabbit hole of making yourself think it’s true and why. Can’t even start a debate until this is demonstrated.
mind of an atheist in a few seconds 😂😂😂 MO : do you belive in Randomness ? Kid : Yes ! MO : Can you give me an example ? Kid : whats your definition of randomness ? SO IN THE END YOU JUST TAKE TITLES AND FOLLOW LIKE A SHEEP KIDDO, CONGRATS ON YOUR "LOGICAL" WAY AND HAVE FUN 🤷♂️
That narcissistic condescending self-satisfied arrogant smirk though. It was very clear he would never budge from the start. He believes he's the smartest man around to the point he would deny that the sun is necessary for him to keep existing, rather than admits that he's ever wrong.
The premise that The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him used stones to do thasbi, which means thasbi ISNT an innovation whether it's stones or beads it's the same thing, where the point is the purpose of COUNTING of stones or beads used to do dhikr, it's the same thing
Well.. in the realm of bias.. atheists, on average, are leaps and bounds behind the religious.. Religious people are biased by definition.. and it shows when they debate. The average atheist will understand the religious way better too.. because most of us used to be religious.. the average believer seems to think that the only way you are an atheist is if you hate god... we are smarter than you guys when it comes to this issue and you can't see it because you have a giant Allah sized blind spot.. Because you were brainwashed as kids.. just like the Christians have been with Yahwe or whatever he's called etc....
Ok say it's number 1 then you are saying it is eternal but the problem with that is that something eternal cannot cause change for example if there is an eternal ball hanging in space by nature since it's lifeless or inanimate and it's not conscious or intelligent it cannot change but if we see the ball expanding we know something is causing it to change. So my question is how can a lifeless ball cause itself to change? We know there was a singularity then it changed into the big bang and then the universe so how can the universe which is eternal and lifeless and not intelligent can cause itself to change or cause change within itself without the help of anything else? I think at one point Allah says in the Quran that without his command even a leaf wouldn't fall from the tree. It doesn't mean he is literally causing the leaf to fall but he created all the conditions for it to fall. So you see change is something that happens constantly, new galaxies and planets are born all the time and then they die, change happens all the time. How can a universe that doesn't have a life or is not intelligent change itself without the help of anything else? See to me it's not possible because if something is not causing it to change then why is it changing? If no one was changing the universe it wouldn't exist it would remain the same as the singularity but it didn't something caused it to change, something intelligent we believe that's God.
Hi Djimmy. If I can respond to your question.. You're proposing that God had a beginning to His existence, which would mean that His beginning was preceeded by His non-existence. The concept of God is such that He is beginninglessly eternal. God has always existed. He didn't come into existence after a time in which He did not exist, rather; He is without a beginning. Something that begins to exist can never be called God, because it would mean that its emergence into the world was dependent upon some external cause that preceeded it and specified it. You're comparing God to created things in your question. The universe could not have emerged out of non-existence without an external cause. We would say that the One who created the universe is not like the universe; having a need of a creator. Rather; God always existed. Think about it this way; with the beginning of the universe, so too did time have a beginning. Time had a beginning. If you listen to scientists, atheists even; they will tell you that time began at the moment of inflation (Big Bang theory). So the One who created time can not be said to be confined to or limited by that which would not have existed, had He not created it. Time began, God created it, and therefor, God is not in-time. God's beginningless eternity is not a past-time, but rather; it's Him existing without Him going through a timeline. The question "who created God?" then becomes completely irrelevant, because He doesn't need to be brought into existence, because He must have existed always.
this sounds like a philosophical discourse. You think that god always existed and created everything (with zero evidence btw); i as an atheist I say universe always existed; some scientists say that big bang happens periodically and singularity always existed... we can argue about it for very long time. At the end of the day its just a matter of philosophy. Religions should be treated as philosophical movements. But instead religions shape politics in most countries. Because of religions, especially Islam, women are treated like second class citizens, homosexuals are being executed for being homosexuals, because of this philosophical thought that has zero evidence... This is ridiculous and unacceptable. People aren't being killed because of utilitarianism or most other philosophical movements. But people are being killed because of religion and hence i believe it has to go.
A new kind of arrogance is saying, “I don’t know”; not in a humble way to acknowledge your ignorance but in a way to stay indifferent and careless about the truth or seeking truth.
A typical atheist contention is: If we are saying that God is independent and necessary, why cannot we say the same thing for the universe? This is a misplaced contention for the following reasons. Firstly, there is nothing necessary about the universe; it could have not existed. Secondly, the components of the universe could have been arranged in a different way. Whether one considers these components to be quarks or some type of quantum field, it still raises the question: Why are they arranged the way that they are? Since a different arrangement of quarks or fields could have existed instead of the collection that does exist, it follows that the universe is dependent.
"If I say you have a stone face, that's anthropomorphism". That's a metaphor. The ability to say you don't know something when you don't shows more wisdom than talking absolute bollocks.
Absolutely. I'm leaning toward a mass caused by pressure from all round space( dark matter) then friction within that mass caused a spark and ignition of a perpetual organic chaotic growth of which we are a very tiny part of. Simple
@@triple4596 you tell me, what is the purpose of these planets. As far as we human knows life need water and liquid water wont exist without the sun. Yes they need to be in a special habitable zone for liquid water to exist.
Atheist said he had to go catch a train... then next minute he's seen In the background debating.. lol he couldn't handle the heat. Not even in the snow
LOL! I saw him too. Not just a coward, but a liar to.
PK Hawke Egypt was never Christian to begin with you idiot lol
PK Hawke When a better thing comes you take it and Islam is the BEST. This is coming from a British convert by the way.
Sammy Santana I guess he took ur advise & did, in fact, shut the F up lol
PK Hawke where is the link? What's religious background got to do with future achievements? Plz, elaborate
I think Muhammad hijab is the tallest man in the park.
And stupid also , without any knowledge of religion
@RUNESCAPEISLIFE S HA HA HA HA , A MAN WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE OF HIS OWN RELIGION , HA HA HA HA HA LOL
@RUNESCAPEISLIFE S , A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS ALWAYS DANGEROUS , SAME IS THE CASE HERE . HA HA
Bas.566 As he is mashallah
Surinder Singh wow I’m sure his knowledge about Islam more and better then hundreds and thousands of Muslims including me
Out of all these dawah people Mo Hijaab is by far the most well mannered and patient. Also highly knowledgeable.
jake roberts He's very well spoken too
Mas A
Yes seems highly educated.
The rest are just so thuggish in their dawah, bring them to Islam but don't mock their misunderstanding
I don't know how he does it.
Dunno Shamsi is also insanely knowledgeable though.
Quran, chapter 7 verse 146: "Those who behave arrogantly on the earth in defiance of right - them will I turn away from My signs: Even if they see all the signs, they will not believe in them; and if they see the way of right conduct, they will not adopt it as the way; but if they see the way of error, that is the way they will adopt. For they have rejected our signs, and failed to take warning from them."
Book of Atheist, chapter 8 verse 69: "And he who arrogantly tells you that you must believe, even without evidence, is living in denial and ignorance. Ask upon him, why out of the thousands of man made gods, he believes blindly in the one who his family has told him to believe in. Yes, a man of god must need a Shepard to keep him in line , for a man of god is a sheep and does not indulge in thinking" Richard Dawkins, peace be upon him.
Anthony Felix Quran, chapter 2 verse 256: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." There's no "you must believe" in Islam, whether you believe in god or not that's up to you, and whether you believe or not that doesn't change the fact that this universe didn't happen by coincidence and definitely didn't make itself.
@@thevigilant266 you have no evidence to prove whether the universe made itself or not. If you believe the universe had to be made because everything needs something to create it , who created the creator? And who is the creator.. Allah, god , the juju on the mountain? You can throw as many quotes from a fictiouus book all you want but it doesn't convince rational thinkers.
Anthony Felix First of all, you need to be deeply thinking in the rational in order for you to come to a conclusion that there's a creator. YES, there are millions of people who believe in god just because they grew up in a religious environment, but that's not all-time case. There are thousands of atheists who reverted to Islam after deep studies and deep thinking. Second of all, if the creator is created then how that makes him a creator? The universe has to be caused by an uncaused being. Look, you can call yourself a scientist or rational or whatever you wanna call yourself, but you must know that rational people are open minded to discuss other people respectfully and understand different point of views of others. Coming towards people arrogantly won't do you any good, it only consumes your credibility. For the sake of discussion, can you explain how and why this universe existed?
Anthony Felix
Watch this discussion between a smart atheist and a smart Muslim in the speaker's corner.
The discussion is split into two parts
Part 1
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Part 2
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How did the Universe come into existence?
Athiest: "I dont know... I don't know... I don't know.... But I know its not God!"
Ali Sid
Exactly.
ha ha ha!
That's better than saying "I definitely know it's God".
Truthfully, can you really just rely upon random events to process everything in our life as how your science goes to explain the origins of our universe when in fact they also uses random as an answer for the argument which is childish.....can i say that 2 + 6 randomly equals to 600? No so dont make it as facts! The life we hace here is not some random thing...
@@firzanwolfred6112 Comparing maths to the randomness of the universe is like comparing weighing a puppy to a volcanic explosion.
We don't know if the universe certainly is random, but we don't know for sure. Even if it wasn't random, that doesn't necessitate God. We don't need God to explain gravity or rain do we? If the universe is random, that's fine. A forest fire can occur randomly can it not? Does it require God? No.
The smirk on that guy's face says that he's ready to disagree with every arguments that would be presented to him.
@tubetardism 20/20 you idiot, that is what he meant, he is already in defence and denial mode.
Radial Omer 💀💀💀😭😭
he might be prepared to deny everything he hears but I think that isn't a smirk. It might be some sort of biological
How is that different from any muslim this fellow would meet. Virtually ALL theists insist, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, that their personal relationship with their god, is all that there is; and IS true. This is the dishonest starting point of conversations with religious adherents.
If he's so wrong, video title would not try to misrepresent his point...
If the answer from the atheist is “it simply is” and he’s satisfied waking up each day with that conclusion, then why can’t he be satisfied with god simply saying “be”
because there is no evidens for any god.
@@matswessling6600read cosmological argument “burhan” by Avicenna
atheist always have this ‘cocky’ kinda style where they cant accept the truth except their truth, lol..
how ironic that you claim we only accept our truth... HAS THE IRONY BALL HIT YOU YET?
Diana - As an atheist.. The shit we have to hear from religious people XD
I wish you could experience giving up on religion.. and you would see how ironic that statement is..
not saying that Atheists can't be cocky, because indeed they can.. but atheists have suffered persecution and ridicule in the name of 1000's of different religions and gods for 1000's of years.. and you would understand if you saw religion from our perspective. To us.. you are believing in a grim fairy tale.. and if that feels like ridicule to you.. then i'm sorry you feel that way.. but it won't change how we see it..
@@blahfuckdig cool. You're still wrong. Nothing you say or do changes that. Unless you change that. All the best
@@gxqx797 - Ah.. okay.. that tells me nothing.. so which god am I wrong about this time?.. let me guess.. Shiva Brahma and Vishnu. oh.. you meant the one YOU were brainwashed into believing.. cool..
religious people never fail to dissapoint when it comes to bad arguments and horrible attempts at logic.... actually.. you are the one who is wrong.. your god does not exist.. and I say that with 100% conficence.. I am about as afraid of your god as I am of the fairy godmother..
@@blahfuckdig lol u mean 100% arrogance. Why cant there be 1 god but that certain people brainwashed other people into believing other god(s) for self-gain, power, control etc? You think you're such a genius that you're seeing something sooo clear that the rest of (theist) humanity is missing? If it was so clear we wouldnt have this issue. Theres no way you can 100% confidence when i gaurentee the scientist or philosophers you were inspired by wouldnt say that (unless dawkins or hitchens or harris and the like inspired you, which it seems like it is. You saying you have ultimate confidence just proves to me your disingeniousness.
Atheist: I respect that you've read philosophy
Muhammad : **chuckles**
Atheists typical style...first try to act smarter than the rests then resort to "i dont know i dont know" to obvious questions bcos they know it will lead to god
first you have to prove a God exist, We are still waiting on that. Also, I don't know is more honest than.. GOD DID IT, cause you still haven't PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE THAT IT EXIST!. A book, a pedophile and your own personal feelings do not count.
Michel Roque
So you've proven God doesn't exist?
All the evidence points to god's existence
Atheists recognize the fact that everything that exists has a cause except everything (the universe) doesn't. There lies their inconsistency. That's why every argument with an atheist ends with him becoming an agnostic.
well at least atheists are critically thinking. religious people are just told to believe in their religions and have no proof or evidence of what they believe in. pathetic
lol the corniest comment of the day, congrats. science and math thought me to think critically actually. and btw great thinkers of the past most of the time did not have a choice but to be religious. Atheism and any perceived attach on the religion was punishable by death (e.g. Galilio and many many many others).
Again...common answer..."i dont know"
karl holmes i dont know is only an escape or ignorant answer
"I don't know" The most honest answer one can ever give. It's a common answer because there are things in this world we don't know yet. To claim you know something without evidence Is the same as lying.
Scar Junior At lest we’re trying what has religion’s many books proven with evidence beyond a reasonable doubt?
Or as I like to call it, an honest answer. Nothing wrong with admitting you don't have an answer to a question rather than just relying on faith, which is the belief in something in the absence of proof...
Not backing anyone up here, and not bashing either side. “I don’t know” is a better response than copping out to God on everything you don’t understand. That God cop out doesn’t work anymore. Atheists have disproven God more than a couple times. The other side has done nothing but lose credibility. Until there is factual evidence on both sides, I can’t take a side.
Here we go again....Atheist.."I don't know ,I don't know"
karl holmes how do you know there is no definite answer if you dont know??
Agreed, but we muslims has the highest probable answer based on observation, reason and rational deductions even though we have never seen outside of universe, for the same approach we believe our brain does exist, or our father is indeed our biological father, and believe we all have ancestors eventhough we never really see our brain, or never go for DNA test, or never see our ancestors. The existence of a creator of universe is not the only things human believe using reasons, basically almost everything we believe in life without really seeing or experiment ourselves, rather we believe on others through observations and reasoning.
Other religion concept of being a powerful creator is contradicting and confusing, like god 3 in 1 but equal to 1, or there are many gods in human form with attributes that doesnt resemble and all-knowing and all powerful attribute of a creator who able to create a complicated massive powerful system yet were finely tuned and perfectly ordered for its purpose, which then able to produce life within the universe. Islam concept of a creator is the most logical explanation of how a creator will be, if he does exist.
What im saying, Islam has the most highest probable answer of how a creator should be and has the most logical definition of a creator of universe its He does exist. For other religion their answers simply messed up and illogical. Its not about who first, its about which one is the truth.
Islam has been in existence since time immemorial. .since Adam and not 1400 years a go..Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is just the seal of all the Prophets..the last of the Prophets....and God confirmed at the time of the Prophet that.."This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favour upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion" (Quran:Surah Al Maidah,the 5th Surah verse 3)
serious discussion
guy at the back: humans made the coin
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Subhan Allah, i wanted to listen more to that last fellow. He seemed knowledgeable. Rather calm as well. He was asking interesting questions without seemingly making hasty assumptions.
Besides Dawah, i love it when debates somehow sometimes lead to an open-minded discussion where both parties have something enriching & thought-provoking to share. :)
29:40 isn't the guy in the background the guy who had a train to catch? Must have missed it.. ^^
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i saw that too. guess he already knew he lost
XD he knew that the train didnt have a purpose , so the train got upset and left without him
@@clearlyclearor legend
This Muslim with the ufc hat seems like a lot of my Muslim friends. Intelligent ( although I don’t believe in the Koran at all ) interesting and very respectful of others opinions which is very important. More of the Muslim men on here should take a leaf out of his book. 👍🏻
The Elite Killa Hey there I also have a lot of Muslim friends and they are very respectful of others and thoughts. I do not believe in god but I honestly have no issues with people if they choose to.
Here on RUclips you get slot of Muslim claiming that religion is the only way (Christians also) and that without god people are bad.
I just think that people or myself for example don’t need a religion to make me s better human being. It should just come naturally.
Moral of the story = people bash outside of cricket
the idea that randomness doesn't exist in the universe is bunk...…………………………….pool balls at the break go flying in all directions with no set pattern
The Qur'an is God's Words:
In the name of Allah(God), The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful.
All besides those believers who have pure faith, irrespective of which religious background they claim to have come from, merely a single sign would suffice them to believe in the existence of One God, whether it be a sign concerning a scientific phenomenon or any other sign. Where as, on the other hand, there are people who would never believe even if a thousand signs are presented to them, such people would never accept faith and as such they are the Rejectors; there may be a third sect/group/category of people who may be convinced if proper efforts are made, either by means of science and technology, or by reasoning and with logic or by any other technique.
As today is the age of science and technology, the best approach we have is the use of scientifically proven and established facts, excluding hypotheses and theories (which lack solid evidence) in order to convince an atheist or an agnostic or any other individual who may not believe that the Qur'an is the revelation of God, as no human being could ever mention such scientific facts in the Qur'an, 14 centuries back which the humanity has unveiled/discovered very recently,with the help of rapidly growing technology and the advances made by the modern scientific world.
Majority of the people who disagree with the fact that the Qur'an has been sent down by God, revealed to the last and final messenger and servant of God, i.e. prophet Mohammad (pbuh), when asked about the reason they disbelieve, what they come up with is that they falsely claim that the Qur'an must have been written by prophet Mohammad himself as they do not have any better explanation for not believing in the Qur'an or Allah.
With the help of mathematics, we can refute their baseless claim (that Muhammad is the author of the Qur'an, they even fail to realise that he was an Ummi,i.e. he was unlettered/illiterate!).
Nevertheless,even for the sake of an argument, let us be kind enough to give them a benefit of doubt, and say that may be, prophet Muhammad wrote the Qur'an (though we never agree!).
Now we shall refute their false claim with the help of what we know in mathematics as 'The Probability Theory'.
Probability is basically concerned with the likelihood or the chance of something happening/taking place or not happening for which we make certain guesses/flukes or predictions at random and calculate the chance of our choice or guess coming true as a number or percentage.
Probability has a range of 0-1. Having a probability of 0 implies the impossibility of the occurence of the event we are dealing with, on the other hand, probability of 1 means that the event is sure to occur, thus affirming a 100% possibility of the occurrence of the event we are dealing with. Any number in between would indicate that the event may either occur or not.
For example,if you toss or flip a coin(fair), there are(a total of), two possibilities, it may either land up with a head or tail, whatever choice you make the mathematical chance/probability of your guess being rightat random is 1 out of 2,i.e. 1/2 or 50%.
Further, if you have a die (having 6 faces) and you roll it, the chance of your guess-number coming on the top is 1/6 as there are a total of 6 distinct choices to make.
Similarly,if you roll the die 2 times in succession/consecutively or roll two dice simultaneously (both yield the same result, these are termed as 'independent events' meaning that the two (or more) events have no influence/impact on one another; they yield independent results) what you'll see is, the probability of both your choices being right at the same time is merely
(1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/36 which is < 3%.
Now,if you roll the die 3 times successively,the chance of you making the right choice all three times,just at random is
(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6) i.e. 1/216 which is < 0.5%.
Let us now consider the compound event of tossing the coin 2 times and rolling the die 4 times,the probability of you making the correct choices all 6 times is therefore
(1/2)×(1/2)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)×(1/6)=(1/2)^2 × (1/6)^4 =(1/4)×(1/1296)=1/5184 which is ~ 0.02%.
Let me generalize the method for you.
If you repeat an experiment for n different times and all of which must deal with independent events as in our case here, fortunately; and you have a probability of, say 'p' for each of the individual events and of course 0 < p < 1.
Now you want to calculate the probability of you making the correct choice all 'n' times i.e. each time you making the right choice without a single mistake..
It is p^n,i.e. 'p' raised to the power of 'n'.
For those who are good at maths, they can readily see that this number, p^n quickly reaches 0 when |p| < 1 and n is let increase!!
Praise be to Allah SWT,all the Qur'anic verses that talk about scientific phenomena can be modelled as ' the independent events' in this very analysis of ours.
And the holy Qur'an contains more than 1,000 (out of more than 6,000 verses in total) verses which speak about science. And more than 800 of which have already been supported by established scientific facts.
1.
For example, the Qur'an says that the light of the moon is not its own light but rather, it is the reflected light of the sun (the moon reflects the light from the sun onto the earth), for this one people (at the time of the revelation of the Qur'an,i.e. at the time of the prophet) could have made two choices (if they were asked, hypothetically) i.e. the light of the moon could be the light of its own or it could be the borrowed light of the sun.
2.
Similarly, the Qur'an talks about the spherical shape (more accurately, the geo-spherical shape, as the earth is slightly flattened at the poles and slightly bulging out at the equatorial region,i.e. the 'circle of maximum diameter').
People could have thought of various shapes for the earth such as flat, triangular,rectangular etc. So, lfor this particular one, the number of choices would be more than 2.
3.
The Qur'an states that the Sun also rotates (about its own axis)...people couldn't even have thought of this, at the time of the prophet as this one is a very very recent discovery, we came to know about this hardly a few decades earlier. So even for this particular one, there would be 2 choices to make, the Sun may either rotate or not! (For the sake of argument only!)
4.
The Qur'an talks, in a nutshell, about the birth of our universe which the scientists today call the Big Bang, it may be right or wrong. ..So for this too, we would have 2 choices.
5.
The Qur'an talks about the interstellar matter, called 'plasma' by the scientists. Again, could be right or wrong. ..So 2 choices for this too.
6.
The Qur'an states that our universe has been expanding. Again, could be right or wrong. .So for this too, we have 2 choices.
And so on..
The Qur'an talks about scientific phenomena,over and over again, for more than 1,000 times.
Each verse which talk about a scientific phenomenon, can be attributed a number of choices we can think of, as above. These choices vary, from 2 (which is the least/minimum number of choices) to larger numbers, for instance,in the case of the earth, we could think of more than a dozen of possible shapes!
Let's restrict ourselves to 2 (as the number of choices), clearly seeing that even the least number of choices would give us the desired result and if we consider more number of choices, we get to the result even more quickly.
As a challenge to the people, I'll prove my logic even with the least number of choices as the Qur'an, with no doubts, is the book of God.
Proceeding with 2 choices as the flukes/guesses for each of the verses which speak about science, what we find is, the probability or the mathematical chance of one making the correct choice all 800 times, i.e. making the right choice for each of the verses each and every single time is...
Using, probability = p^n with p = 1/2 and n = 800...
Probability(P) = (1/2)^800 = 1/(2)^800
The number 2^800, i.e. 2 raised to the power of 800 is a very huge number though it may not appear so, so huge that the number
1/(2)^800 is literally negligible and is considered 0 (zero/nill) in practical mathematics.
The number of choices that could be thought of,for the scientific verses of the Qur'an is not merely 2 as we have used above!!
We could've used more than 2 choices in which case we'd have arrived at the answer of 0 even more quickly.
So,even in the most probable case (using the least number of choices, i.e.2), the probability of the scientific verses being written in the noble Qur'an by (any) a human being is 0.
The Qur'an,thus,can never be the work of a human. It must have come from a divine source. The only being Who could mention such facts in the Qur'an must be the Creator Himself Who possesses All The Knowledge.
Peace be on you all.
your not human your a junk
Answer of the year : *I don't know*
@Casey Mays If you don'k know, how do you know there is no God? How can one be certain on that? It makes more sense to say you don't know if God exist or not. Is better to be agnostic than atheist. Yes indeed the answer of the year: I don't know. Ha ha ha. LOL
USERZ123 don’t include politics with religion!
Dr NikTofen “everything comes from a cause” except god
*not surprised coming from a Muslim
@Casey Mays this statement of yours is a paradox, you say you don't know, and yet you know with certainty that the universe came from nothing by nothing. Lol
William Solia I am sure in school you were taught to write your best guess even if you not sure of the answer. Tell me who has better chance of getting some marks from examiner? The person who writes I don’t know or someone who pen his best guess. Use your common sense to answer. You don’t live the rest of your life on I don’t know do you? Man made laws even tells you, ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You see how dumb it is? I don’t know is the worst chances ha ha ha. Well I doubt if this will make any sense to you because you simple don’t know obviously
22:45 "i have a train to catch"
25:10 he is on the left shoulder of hijab.
😂😂😂
Ooh I can see on 25.11
An example of a coward behavior lol
Maybe he got tired of saying "I don't know"
He caught the train, put it in jail and came back the next minute to debate. Atheists are very effective 🤣
Step 1
Act smug
Step 2
debate the universe existent
Step 3
reject common sense and need to catch a train
Step 4
25:11 bruh..
How to be an atheist - Guideline.
I like how athiests are acting logical people and all their logic and hottiness can be destroyed by small logic
yeah hahahah and the only thing what they say is i dont know
That literary doesn't make any sense.
I understand you want to seem smart, but you might not be.
Claims such as "since we don't know how the Universe came to be yet, it must be God" is not an argument.
@@janchovanec8624 Claims such as "since we don't know how the Universe came to be yet, it is not God" is equally not an argument either.
@@yusifhuseini Actually it is. Argument is a set of logically correct statements that have a certain and concrete implications. You cannot prove something that cannot be validated, seen, observed or in any way detected.
Though logic and faith aren't on a good terms it seems.
@@janchovanec8624 Your definition of argument is little bit bias but again when the atheist is confident to say he doesn't know why is he 100% sure to negate God? The agnostic approach makes more sense because they are more consistent to say they don't know whether it is God or not. Science has no way of validating soul or dreams yet still it is true and they exist.
LOL. A Tasbeeh is not an "innovation". It's a just another way to count the ritualistic praises. "Innovation" has to do with introducing a ritual or a belief that has no basis in the religion.
A few other points: it's not that we as human beings can say with certainty that something cannot come from nothing. It's that it is metaphysically impossible prove either way, because in order to prove that something came from nothing, one would have to know how to distinguish between something coming from something else (contingency) which we can witness, and something coming from nothing which we cannot. It is also inexplicable and therefore irrational and so is completely outside of the realm of rational debate. It's effectively magic. If someone believes that something can come from nothing, there is no arguing with them, because they can effectively believe in anything, e.g., if a coin was flipped and instead of landing on its head or tail, it turned into a bird instead, as Hijab made the point.
Which leads to the main point of the conversation: the explanation for the witnessed causal regularity (or teleology) that exists in Reality. This atheist effectively has no answer: "it is what it is". In other words, it's inexplicable to him, which means he effectively must submit to the irrationality of his position.
Exactly, what Islamophobes do is that they start with conclusions then work their way back to fit them against islam. May Allah protect us from ignorance.
Yes Bid'ah
Tasbih is not innovation for a different reason which is because the prophet saw allowed it when he saw others use it. However if he never allowed it and tasbihs were not used in his time then no doubt it would become a bidah.
Never trust someone who speaks out the side of his face.
No offence
OpenYuh EyeBy I think he has Tourette’s syndrome.
He clearly has something go on with that and isn’t doing it to be shady.
Haha
This syndrome name I don't know very series syndrome
Maybe he has a illness or something like that . Dont judge
isn't ironic that every single atheist who they claim that they know science and they know the universe thus god does not exist. but all answers they give " We dont know"
Muslim : How did the universe come to existance
Atheist : We dont know but I am 100% sure it wasn't GOD.
Isn't it ironic that you find it ironic when someone is being honest about not knowing an answer to something.
Kinda beats being a lying asshat...
Muslim: How did the universe come to existance
Atheist: We don't know yet, we might never know, but just because we dont know you don't have the right to claim GOD did it either.
Muslim: Well God did do it, it says so in this book
Atheist: Well how do you know that book is correct
Muslim: Well because, It's the word of GOD
Atheist Well how do you know its the word of GOD
Muslim: Because it says so in the book.
Listen, When you have any evidence for a creator let us atheist know. We don't claim to know absolute truth so we might be intrigued at your information.
Design argument is not a good argument to use: For one, you have to demonstrate before hand that It was GOD who designed us. So before you can even make the claim of design you have to prove your God exist and did design us. Then we have the problem of what design actually is, or rather how do you know its design since this is the only universe you have ever seen, the only earth, the only me, you.. ETC.. So how the hell can you know what design is if you have nothing to compare it to? We know a watch, a boat, a book has a maker because we have instances of watches, books, and boats being made by their creator and we can compare them to other watches, boats, and books as well. How many instances of design by God have we witnessed that is not in that crappy book of yours? I'll save you the time in typing the number ZERO for you..
So, how did the Universe came into existence? I can honestly tell you right now that WE DO NOT KNOW, but you don't either.
They DON'T know science. Their knowledge of science is only high school level.
Actually, the more one knows about science the more they come closer to the conclusion of an ultimate designer, God.
I decline having any civil conversation with you on the grounds that it is impossible to have any type of conversation with you about religion or islam.
Quoting the quran is as pointless as quoting Harry Potter as proof of wizards or quoting the bible as proof of Jesus.
Also, just because a book has some scientific fact does not make it any more factual than another book with different TRUE Scientific facts. The Quran also states that Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse.
No sir, we cannot have any type of discussion when your mind is already closed off to anything other than what your book of fairy tales says. I won't waste my time with someone who is that close minded. But hey, if you have proof of your God, I'd sure love to see it. Your book doesn't count as proof.
Michel Roque DNA is proof of an intelligent designer. Code must have a coder if you are computer literate. The earth and its perfect distance from the sun just in the habitable zone is proof that you are being protected. Death is proof that you are returning to someone.
The universe's low entropy state (stability) is proof that it is being protected. Order cannot come from disorder as every physicist will tell you. If ppl dont believe in these as signs then even if God showed hismelf physically to them they still wouldn't believe he existed. Isn't it ironic how every civilisation has worshipped something in one way or another. We are spiritual beings gifted with intellect
That's the point. This is the way logic works. If you make a positive statement, an affirmative statement, you are burdened to prove it. We start with nothing. How did the universe come into being? You say God. We say prove it. If you respond with prove that it wasn't, that's fallacious. Not many people will say with 100% certainty that there is no way possible a creator created everything. Most atheists are agnostic atheists. You can't prove a god created the universe, and we won't believe what cannot be proven.
Great conversation, thanks
Because of fogs that do not disappear in England, the English have forgotten that there is something called the sun!
@@silentwitness123 You love clouds? Doesn't it gives depression?
I need to read some books about logical arguments.
Mashallah brother Hijab is very knowledgeable, May Allah S.W.T. strengthen his knowledge even further.
Ameen
Athiest brother got the knowledge too
Well, if we were to know every single variable in the universe we could literally predict the future. But since we are not all knowing and we are limited we cannot factor in the variables in an equation and utilize that. This dictates that there is no such thing as random, because what is random to you is basically unpredictable. If i had all the variables at hand, again, i will be able to know what will happen. For instance, if i knew the charge of each ball on a table, the friction, the magnetic field, the electric field of anything surrounding all of these balls, the weigh of all these balls and their gravitiational pull to each other and the force that im going to hit the first ball with, and its angel and air resistance and and and.. i will surely predict the future without a mistake. Therefore, our universe is set with finite amount of variables that put the universe in its order. This shows that there is a creator and a code to his creation i believe.
Actually, no, you wouldn't be able to predict the future because the information contained in the universe is always increasing due to entropy, this is a good video that explains this ruclips.net/video/sMb00lz-IfE/видео.html
This guy need to challenge saboor he will blow his mind 😂😂😂😂
Raw Keeper give me the link plz.
Raw Keeper umm I was there at the Aron Ra discussion with saboor , and it was quite humiliating .I felt bad for Aaron . Matter fact towards the end you will see Aron asking saboor show me where this appears in the book , and saboor shows him and he was just in shock .
Dr Khaled 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
Yes his the one
I agree, I feel that Saboor gets to the point quicker instead of trying to win the game of semantics, which added nothing of substance to the discussion.
I swear this guy is stuck on this one emoji permanently lool😏
The atheist face 😂🤦♂️
LMAOO
MAY Allah increase hijabs knowledge and wisdom, Ameen.
what knowledge and what wisdom? Truth isn't what YOU want to hear. Instead of listening to a liar, you can go search for yourself
Either my English is weak or they're using really philosophical words.
Edit: The first comment I read, someone's joking about not bringing a dictionary 😂
They are indeed engaging in a fairly logical debate. Both of them must've read a lot of philosophical books and are acquainted with Aristotelian concepts.
The main partsthey are using are Metaphysics + Mahtematics + Epistemology.
Sadly, it ended abruptly.
If it wasn’t for RUclips this atheist wouldn’t have exist.
There were atheists amongst the ancient Greeks, so you're wrong. I was an atheist long before YT came out.
Matt OToole you don’t get it do you? It’s a metaphor for example if you didn’t comment on this I wouldn’t have known that you existed meaning if I have not met you or seen you, you don’t exist but in reality you do exist it’s the same because I don’t see god with my eyes doesn’t mean there’s no possibility of it existing that’s an atheist mentality. Once you wrap your head around what I just said you’re welcome.
This man needs sun more than anyone else in the world
😂😂😂😂
Athiest : "It can be anything that created the universe except god"
No one says that maybe it is god
But can you prove its god?
Can you prove its the god we know the god you believe in the god you think exist and not any other supernatural being that just created the universe because it was bored?
@@saifsaif8352 Can you prove it is not God? Your best answer I don't know. Ha ha ha. LOL
@@yusifhuseini exept I can't disprove something that wasn't proven...
The burden of proof is on you pal if you prove there IS a supernatural being that created the universe you still have two more steps
1 prove it's god
2 prove it's your god
And admitting to not know is better than saying something without any evidence
People tough Zeus is the one that caused thunder to form and I bet if we didn't know how it formed you would say the same exept instead of Zeus you'd say Allah or Jesus or whatever god your parents tough you to bleive in
@@saifsaif8352 Thanks for your reply but you straw man my argument.
True the burden of the proof is on the one who made the claim. But what was my claim? You asked the question "But can you prove its god?" and I replied by asking if "Can you prove it is not God?" And my reply is your best answer is You don't know.
I didn't make the claim it is God. You were vague as well with the word "maybe". For anyone to say God doesn't exist that's emphatic statement and he need to prove that. To say you just don't know doesn't answer why you came to the conclusion.
Besides if you want proof of God existence there have been a lot of departs and discussions on that. No need to reinvent the will sure if you are interested you can look into that.
@@yusifhuseini oh so you didn't make the claim that it's god?
So you don't know that it is god you just think that it is
I didn't make any claims here I was skeptical about why he think it is god I didn't say it wasn't but I said he doesn't have enough evidence that it is god and not something else
Also god was never proven to exist if if I told you unicorns exist however you said that there isn't enough evidence for you to bleive that they exist then should you be the one to disprove the existence of unicorns or is the burden of proof on me?
There are many videos on this topic but
1 I can't watch all of them
2 I watched enough and still didn't find enough evidence to bleive in god
I didn't straw men you're argument
You said "can you prove it's not god?"
Which implies that you think the burden of proof is on me which it isn't
Your comment comfuse me a bit
Do you think that god exists?
Prove it
If you claim that a supernatural being exist then the burden of proof is on you
But if you don't claim god created the universe you don't bleive it did so you're an atheist
Please make up your mind
all arguments aside, look at his mouth positionioning in that sideways manner xD
I was looking through the comment section JUST to find this satement 🤣🤣🤣
It's like he has a permanent smirk on his face
Maybe he can't help it. Some people do have severely assymetrical face. It's not something we should laugh at.
that's not nice. let's not pick on him like that as A it's not sunnah and B he might have a medical condition or be born with it
Screwface
Ah! What an unfortunate human being this atheist is! He's not eager to continue the conversation or answer Hijab's questions bcoz he knows these questions will surely lead him to the truth.
See what Allah(swt) has said about this atheist and people like him:-
Al-Baqarah 2:6
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ سَوَآءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ
English - Sahih International
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.
Al-Baqarah 2:7
خَتَمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَىٰ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَعَلَىٰ سَمْعِهِمْۖ وَعَلَىٰٓ أَبْصَٰرِهِمْ غِشَٰوَةٌۖ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ
English - Sahih International
Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.
g wainer Lmfao what of value has the athiest said. Whenever Muhammad made a point he said "I don't know". And if he had to leave why was lurking at 29:40 ? Stop trying to defend the undefendable.
@doug nut THE truth, your fiction.
That whole concept puts the whole invite a person into islam thing and chucks it in the bin. It's contradicting itself there.
Bro Hijab is toooo sweet and patient n gentle, Masya Allah I can't handle that 😁 I need some Sheikh Hashim now 😁
Steve seems self righteous and blind
2nd part? That guy at the end is interesting.
TechNyQz SynChronization ruclips.net/video/wZKC81voLfk/видео.html
this guy is here to show that he is smart.
From the first few secs with brother hijab he lost his confidence
🤣 man's got a twitch to his left cheek.... must've been feeling the heat in the snow... Lost the argument. He just got served. The smartass ran out of smarts. 😂😅😆😀🤣
Who was the last guy? Seems like an interesting figure.
In The Name of AllAH The Most Beneficent to All, and The Most Merciful to the Believers.
قَالَ فَبِعِزَّتِكَ لَأُغْوِيَنَّهُمْ أَجْمَعِين
"[Iblees] said, By your might, I will surely mislead them all."
إِلَّا عِبَادَكَ مِنْهُمُ الْمُخْلَصِينَ
"Except, among them, Your chosen SINCERE servants."
(The most dangerous thing to Muslims today is the love of Fame, and Money that can sneak into ones heart, even without you Not being aware of it. Those two things can pollute ones judgement, and destroy ones hereafter. You can scream all day and night and say, "what im doing is for AllAH alone. In reality you hope what you are doing is for AllAH, but you don't know, and AllAH knows. It should make you really fearfull, and when you become fearfull of that simple fact, then your judgement improves, and the way you do things.)
He’s probably hired by a newspaper he seems like the type.
Wait the sun does not exist? Poor Sara will be devistated when he realises his “god” RA does not exist...
Atheist: I don’t know.
Believer: I don’t know, therefore god.
*please feel free to join in discussion on replies, some interesting stuff*
Atheist : i know that something can't come from nothing and i don't know who maid the universe but its definitely not god 😂
+ Who said i dont know therefore god ?
Atheist is someone who doesn’t believe in God. Could be because they don’t know (how the universe began etc etc)
Someone who believes in god also doesn’t know but labels that as ‘It must be god.’ Both the atheist and the believer have access to the same resources as each other on planet Earth, but they both had different upbringings. Vast majority of people who are religious come from religious families... coincidence? Not saying it’s wrong but it’s always good to challenge your thinking.
Mr. Hijab: I don't know, therefore god. Specifically the one and only god that was strangely focussed on one part of the world, and had one of his angels talk to a merchant in a cave. And because I believe (read: 'know') this, I'm going to heaven and you're going to hell to suffer eternal punishment after you die. I'm sure of all this through using my senses, although I could not really see, smell, feel, taste or hear god. Because I know this is an insufficient epistemological method, I use the most reliable source of information anyone could have, namely: "Intuition". Now I'm going to follow my funny tummy to the mosque, because it tells me that the almighty god needs to be thanked and praised for the fifth time today. Have fun not knowing the origin of the universe, you silly unbeliever. Peace.
@@bliepblooper2555 god doesn't need to be thancked , and if you want to believe we all came from nothing just like this you are free to believe in it
@@TOn-fx2gr Well, surely we don't come from a literal 'nothing' as in a vacuum devoid of any matter. The first living organisms on earth would've been single cell organisms. How they came into existence nobody really knows, but it is being researched at the moment. If we assume that there would be a god that created the universe, there's still no reason to believe in Islam or Judaism or Christianity or so. Anyone could claim to have spoken with the creator of the universe. and their claims would all have the same level of validity. The religious scriptures do not talk about the process of evolution. They simply claim that god created humans, while completely ignoring the long process of evolution. Like, what was the point of putting Neanderthals on the earth and letting them go extinct after a while?
It would be great to have someone in life with this level of patience and knowledge
Poor kid failing to see the truth
No he's not failing to see the truth, he just doesn't wanna see it. Which is 1000x worse.
lol whats the truth? your fairytale (aka religion) is the truth? evidence please! i know u don't have it
yeah, he fails to see that it's pointless to argue with any religious nut bag.
Umer Raja lol scoffers don’t realize their misery and mindlessness is all they have. Allow them to bark and holler like the depraved animals they are. They will return to the state they desire.
@g wainer take a wild guess what truth they are talking about.
The guy was defeated the moment he told him his name. He should have said "it doesn't matter" and stayed in the same posture. Further down in conversation he shouldn't have justified himself about what he thinks his purpose is.....huh. We need someone like Hitchens in this day and age.
"they simply are"
"i don't know"
"i don't know but it's definitely not god"
His argument is not scientific nor philosophic. It's just dishonest person rejecting every possibility that there's somekind of creator/designer (he even straight forward mention God multiple times).
This is not debate, dialog or conversation. It's just dumb person practicing his free speech.
“Why do patterns occur in the real world, and not randomness?”
“They simply are, they simply do.”
You can see his resolve to deny the truth.
All I read was what is likely going to be your attempt to assert something is true without evidence.
☠DE=ATH☠ That’s what the atheist just did. Also, just because you deny the proof of an intelligent designer does not mean that it doesn’t exist.
atheists became knowledgable because of the quran
Atheist based on I don't know,maybe this,maybe that.... nothing is nothing...😅😅😅😅
Who cares what the dictionary definition is, you know what he meant. Unless you were attempting to just put him on the back foot.
There are definitely "a truth" in the universe, on a macro scale. Either it happened or it didn't.
There is no way you can possibly say that there was "causation" at the beginning of the universe or any other singularity. We don't know. All models break down at the beginning of time or at the centre of a black hole.
Yes randomness exists. Most people do not understand randomness. Something that has a probability of zero happening. For example, rational numbers. If I asked you to select a number between 0 and 1 you have a zero probability of picking a rational number. However, there are infinite rational numbers. Finding patterns in randomness is misunderstanding randomness. The point is that there is no pattern. As a biological creature you will often find patterns that don't exist because you constantly seek patterns to reduce cognitive load.
You quoted Laplace, he was around prior to relativity and quantum mechanics.
Patterns exist because systems often find an equilibrium. If they never found an equilibrium you never had noticed that system.
WHAT?? A SANE PERSON IN THE COMMENTS? BLASPHEMYYY
I really wish someone intellectual debated with hijab. He keeps debating bums on the street
I wouldn’t even debate with a atheist. May Allah bless this ummah
Forget the atheist and the big bang. My argument is, If you are born in a Muslim family , you will very likely to be practising Muslim all your life, a hindu will be hindu all his life, a jew will be jew all his life, a Shia will be shi'a all his life.Another good example is, everyone that comes to speakers corner claims to be right and the other person is wrong. Exactly like this video, hijab is is clearly born in a Muslim family hence he is preaching Islam, and the other guy was born in a non Muslim family who's parents was most likely non practising parents Hence this white guy doesn't even believe in God. So basically through the perspective of muslims, all practising Muslim go heaven but the rest go hell. How is that fair?? The Muslim born child has an advantage as his influences of his parents, siblings to brush off on to him. Guaranteed this uploader is born in a Muslim family, it is clear just by reading the name of the you tube channel. Therfore It's a never ending circle. Pointless debate.
@@NightRyder-ph1sx True. But God(energy) is the one. Just many ways to connect with him. I think Islam is the best approach amongst others. Its upon the person what group of people he wanna join.
@@NightRyder-ph1sx but still come from the same creator luls
@@NightRyder-ph1sx not true. An atheist or Hindu or Christian or whatever has the same jump start as a person born into a Muslim family. The same information is available to a non muslim as to a muslim. I wouldn't argue with you that being born into a certain believe will make you hold it more dearly.
But negating the fact that you can't reason and think logically for yourself and therefore changing your mind is false. You are exposed to the same information available to everyone, to aquire and seek knowledge in. Unfortunately not everyone takes there time to seek out and try to learn more about the other beliefs and therefore only stick within there own because they know "more" about it.
Ask them if they can make a fly??
5:04 man like Mohammed got the park on lock 🤣
i wanted to hear what the last guy said to the end
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he said helpppppppp im confused
he said ' can someone pass me the lighter? '
The atheist and mohammed had a great talk. Why are people here so rude to the atheist? There is no loser here except for the idiots in this comment section spreading hate.
Plz help my brothers. I know for sure Allah exists but my mind is trying to reject it. Plz help
Search for expert, ask questions one by one... Then you'll get your answer
Luqmanul Pikoromaneil ok thx
If you have doubts then you don't Know that Allah exists, you only think he does.
A M no man I know. Btw my doubts are kind of cleared now.
@@carljohnson2194 insyallah may allah grant you jannah and make you life here and hereafter more simple than before, i pray for your guidance my brother
Hijab likes using empiricism and philosophy alot
The atheist seemed more interested in semantics rather than actual substance. BTW the sun can be a star and still have the purpose/functionality of being crucial for life an Earth. These 2 statements can be true at the same time. In addition to this what is the distinction between "a truth" and "The Truth", and why bring it up? It added nothing to the conversation. Saying "I don't know" and "not God" are contradictory statements.
Interesting debates, it would be cool if we had something like speakers corner in Houston Texas where I’m at.
I dont believe in god
I hope yall didnt get triggered
It’s annoying when someone in a debate is running around in circles avoiding answers to questions because they’re wrong in a sense.. Hijab will answer a question 50 times and whoever he is debating will ask that same question another 50 times saying it’s not answered
Salaam alaikum SCDawah folks,
Does this stuff only happen on Sunday? I'm visiting from America soon, and want to meet the SCdawah and EFDawah channel brothers.
Gaga4Parma - Ok. Wow subhanallah, seems like these brothers upload news videos every day, I thought it was happening multiple times a week 😂
Thanks akhi
Sadique Khan - Yes I'm muslim. I'm American. How about you? Are you muslim? Where are you from?
Did you visit?
Carl Carlson I'm also an American Muslim, God brother.
This guys has some weird face tick going on
😏😏😏
Lol
you know when Brother Hijab has came for debate... you're screwed, he's lucky that Brother Suboor isn't there because his brain will shut down.
No one:
This guy : 👁 👁
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Forget catching a train .. Steve the atheist seeking free speech .. realised within a few seconds of talking to Mo Hijab that he was way out of his depth ... the arrogance quickly dissipates ... the sound of a deflating balloon ... followed by "I'll get my coat" ... Dear Steve, Islam frees the mind, body and spirit to follow THE TRUTH, objective and absolute. Hope you watch this again and ponder deeply on the points made in the discussion.
When the atheists started to know their cause of being in this world they have to catch-up a train.😅
This kid reminds me of Ben from eastenders lol
Mashallah brother, how high educated you’re as well as very sophisticated articulation
Lol this atheist was sharp, didn’t fall for Mohammed’s gish gallop even once. With all of Mohammed’s arguments all you can conclude is that constants in the universe exist, his arguments don’t prove that the constants “came from” or were “created by” anything. If anyone finds Mohammed’s arguments convincing to the question “does God exist?” Please educate yourself.
Wow that atheist destroyed this dude. I am NOT an atheist but his arguments were sound and this guy tried to lead arguments, shifted his baseline when that didn’t work, put forth unfalsifiable premises that do not have to be for things to work as is. So, instead of trying to sound smart and argue poorly, he should’ve just said ‘your way is probable and my way is possible, do you agree?’ Then that atheist would concede and admit the possibility of divine creation, or he would deny it showing his unwillingness to acknowledge other alternatives.
Hmmm I don’t consider a tasbeeh as an innovation. It’s a tool to help count. Just like we have digital Qur’an/apps, prayer mats with compass etc etc
F. It innvoation because the prophet didn't do it
Yea that's what I was thinking. It like a form of technology..
F the early scholars and tabieen used to cut these beads as it wasn't used by the prophet pbuh and it was used by the Catholics before Muslims.
it does become an innovation if those beads themselves or the digital counter etc. is being made part of the deen. bid'ah is that which is added in the deen, making it part of the deen. like mawlid, it is made such that those who celebrate see it as a requirement in islam. so they added something new and made it their deen. or giving the tasbeeh beads a certain value in the deen like not letting a menstruating woman touch it (some people think like this, crazy i know).
islamic schools, digital quran, tasbeeh etc. is not bid'ah because it is not something that is seen as part of the religion or from within religion. Rather these are tools to make it easy to practice that which is allready in the religion, without changing anything of it.
just a small correction he doesn't just take it from Quran and Sunnah he also quotes other scholars of the same ideology.
The point is, what is the point making smirking face all the time? disregarding everyone intelligence?
Andre Ramadhan I think you will find that his face smirking comes under the following category. It isn’t uncommon I have worked with a few people who have it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome
This guy Steve has been talking to tommy the racist Robinson
Peace family
david lambe u seem mad
frustrated man. we dont understand what you say. We understand only "fuck fuck ...." in your sentence.
Yes, a racist.
Guy whose family members and many friends are non white, is truly a racist.
You are very smart sir.
Good discussion leave as that
Gonna have bias and not pitch perfect explanations for exception
At least allhumdillah this is how things should be sorted in respect with all societies issues
Science can't test faith. It's simple. Iman is to believe in the unseen. Atheist think God is a concept..you can't try to explain to them faith, Iman. You just can't.. You warn them and move on.
The guy at the end is so cool.
The entire conversation on the topic of "nothing" is something us as humans most likely cant understand and cant comprehend, so it practically goes against all religious arguments that something cant come out of nothing.
We simply cannot understand "nothing" , end of story.
Reece Hughes Nothing is literally nothing, its the absence of something. Like black is the absence of color, nothing is an absence of something.
@@harissahab2743 its impossible to have nothing because by describing something as nothing, you have described it , and therefore it is now something.
"Did you come here for Tommy" if I had a pound for every time you said that!
Too much big words for me.
This dude has to have his presuppositions like there has to be something outside of the universe to make his points. Remember religious people, you have to demonstrate the existence Of a god before going down this rabbit hole of making yourself think it’s true and why. Can’t even start a debate until this is demonstrated.
cough photosynthesis cough needs the sun cough
Wow! I like that last guy.. he asked some serious questions
same here if u listen to carefully he is very wise
mind of an atheist in a few seconds 😂😂😂
MO : do you belive in Randomness ?
Kid : Yes !
MO : Can you give me an example ?
Kid : whats your definition of randomness ?
SO IN THE END YOU JUST TAKE TITLES AND FOLLOW LIKE A SHEEP KIDDO, CONGRATS ON YOUR "LOGICAL" WAY AND HAVE FUN 🤷♂️
he wants to remain what he believes and will argue till last breath to keep it that way...
That narcissistic condescending self-satisfied arrogant smirk though. It was very clear he would never budge from the start. He believes he's the smartest man around to the point he would deny that the sun is necessary for him to keep existing, rather than admits that he's ever wrong.
The premise that The Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him used stones to do thasbi, which means thasbi ISNT an innovation whether it's stones or beads it's the same thing, where the point is the purpose of COUNTING of stones or beads used to do dhikr, it's the same thing
The Atheist is fairly intelligent but he has made up his mind against the existence of Allah (swt) so his theories and positions are innately biased.
Well.. in the realm of bias.. atheists, on average, are leaps and bounds behind the religious.. Religious people are biased by definition.. and it shows when they debate. The average atheist will understand the religious way better too.. because most of us used to be religious.. the average believer seems to think that the only way you are an atheist is if you hate god... we are smarter than you guys when it comes to this issue and you can't see it because you have a giant Allah sized blind spot.. Because you were brainwashed as kids.. just like the Christians have been with Yahwe or whatever he's called etc....
This was really awesome to watch and listen greetings from México saludos hermanos musulmanes y compañeros humanos
I love asking Atheists what came before the BigBang.....
Well if you don't know the answer maybe you should keep open the possibility of a creator.
Ok say it's number 1 then you are saying it is eternal but the problem with that is that something eternal cannot cause change for example if there is an eternal ball hanging in space by nature since it's lifeless or inanimate and it's not conscious or intelligent it cannot change but if we see the ball expanding we know something is causing it to change. So my question is how can a lifeless ball cause itself to change? We know there was a singularity then it changed into the big bang and then the universe so how can the universe which is eternal and lifeless and not intelligent can cause itself to change or cause change within itself without the help of anything else? I think at one point Allah says in the Quran that without his command even a leaf wouldn't fall from the tree. It doesn't mean he is literally causing the leaf to fall but he created all the conditions for it to fall. So you see change is something that happens constantly, new galaxies and planets are born all the time and then they die, change happens all the time. How can a universe that doesn't have a life or is not intelligent change itself without the help of anything else? See to me it's not possible because if something is not causing it to change then why is it changing? If no one was changing the universe it wouldn't exist it would remain the same as the singularity but it didn't something caused it to change, something intelligent we believe that's God.
Here is a question for u: where did god come from? Out of nothing? Then why universe cannot come from nothing?
Hi Djimmy. If I can respond to your question..
You're proposing that God had a beginning to His existence, which would mean that His beginning was preceeded by His non-existence. The concept of God is such that He is beginninglessly eternal. God has always existed. He didn't come into existence after a time in which He did not exist, rather; He is without a beginning. Something that begins to exist can never be called God, because it would mean that its emergence into the world was dependent upon some external cause that preceeded it and specified it. You're comparing God to created things in your question. The universe could not have emerged out of non-existence without an external cause. We would say that the One who created the universe is not like the universe; having a need of a creator. Rather; God always existed. Think about it this way; with the beginning of the universe, so too did time have a beginning. Time had a beginning. If you listen to scientists, atheists even; they will tell you that time began at the moment of inflation (Big Bang theory). So the One who created time can not be said to be confined to or limited by that which would not have existed, had He not created it. Time began, God created it, and therefor, God is not in-time. God's beginningless eternity is not a past-time, but rather; it's Him existing without Him going through a timeline. The question "who created God?" then becomes completely irrelevant, because He doesn't need to be brought into existence, because He must have existed always.
this sounds like a philosophical discourse. You think that god always existed and created everything (with zero evidence btw); i as an atheist I say universe always existed; some scientists say that big bang happens periodically and singularity always existed... we can argue about it for very long time. At the end of the day its just a matter of philosophy. Religions should be treated as philosophical movements. But instead religions shape politics in most countries. Because of religions, especially Islam, women are treated like second class citizens, homosexuals are being executed for being homosexuals, because of this philosophical thought that has zero evidence... This is ridiculous and unacceptable. People aren't being killed because of utilitarianism or most other philosophical movements. But people are being killed because of religion and hence i believe it has to go.
A new kind of arrogance is saying, “I don’t know”; not in a humble way to acknowledge your ignorance but in a way to stay indifferent and careless about the truth or seeking truth.
A typical atheist contention is: If we are saying that God is independent and necessary, why cannot we say the same thing for the universe? This is a misplaced contention for the following reasons. Firstly, there is nothing necessary about the universe; it could have not existed. Secondly, the components of the universe could have been arranged in a different way. Whether one considers these components to be quarks or some type of quantum field, it still raises the question: Why are they arranged the way that they are? Since a different arrangement of quarks or fields could have existed instead of the collection that does exist, it follows that the universe is dependent.
What's the guy at 5:28 doing lol in the grey beanie , what a weirdo
I was thinking the same!! what is he doing with his face throughout the entire video. SO ANNOYING
he has such a punchable face
TRUST!!!
he was licking his lips throughout the entire video
Think he’s tryna moisturise his crusty lips, fam just invest in some Vaseline
thats true looks like hes got some sort of lazy eye.
"If I say you have a stone face, that's anthropomorphism". That's a metaphor. The ability to say you don't know something when you don't shows more wisdom than talking absolute bollocks.
Absolutely. I'm leaning toward a mass caused by pressure from all round space( dark matter) then friction within that mass caused a spark and ignition of a perpetual organic chaotic growth of which we are a very tiny part of. Simple
Tadgh Murphy Where did the dark matter come from?
Am I the only one who thinks this guy destroyed the Muslim?
@Victoria Smith Hell to the no. He was out of the Muslim’s league.
Yes you're alone in this Victoria
@@Mustafa-vl9lz yes victoria you're completely wrong
But we don't know. It's much better to say you don't know rather than attribute it to magic with no evidence. That's an example of stupidity.
Without the sun, no life would exist on earth.
wowmyworldy74
A star with a planet that is not habitable for life. Does it have a purpose or not?
@@triple4596 you tell me, what is the purpose of these planets. As far as we human knows life need water and liquid water wont exist without the sun. Yes they need to be in a special habitable zone for liquid water to exist.