It's funny, a bunch of these clowns will say, "you shouldn't have to look at your holster to holster your weapon, you're not being tactical"..... Well children, if I'm holstering my pistol then that means the fight is over and I've won and the scene is secure!! You're welcome!!!
Or you have to holster it quickly before a police officer shows up and doesn't know what's going on. I'd rather not be told to go on the ground at gunpoint with a possible nd in my belly
@@turns-jt7te my hope is to be holstered and concealed before anyone is able to process what happened. Then I'll just be a bystander again.... Actually my hope is to not be in the situation to begin with.
@@andrewbetances1203 shooting someone... Then hoping to skedaddle before anyone notices. Mate idk the angle you see things from but this is a really good way to wind up in hot water with the law.
@@turns-jt7te never said anything about leaving. Quite the contrary. I need to make sure any weapons don't get legs and walk away. I'm talking about as few people knowing I have a CCW as possible including police until it's safe to disclose what happened. That's in an ideal situation anyways. With my luck, I'll pull on someone about to kill me or my family then a cop will think I'm attempting to murder an innocent ex con with a gun.
22 years undercover experience speaking. I started with small in the back carry, but found that it caused serious back and hip problems from sitting in a car. Went to appendix carry and carried that way the rest of the time. Tons of Raids, chases, fights and three shootings...never had a problem of it dropping out or getting to it when needed. During that time, holsters evolved (and actually got better). Currently, I like the Q Series for my Glocks, fit the weapon great, good trigger guard but very minimalist. Love what you do WPS, keep up the good work fellow patriot.
There was a guy who got in a car accident with one of those horizontal in-the-back holsters. I think he had a 1911. Anyway, it left a 1911-shaped crater in his back, displacing several vertebrae in the lower lumbar-sacral junction and causing serious spinal injury. Not sure what happened with him long-term.
@@concernedpatriot.2221 I mainly carry a Glock 26 with a Glock 19 mag (this gives a bit of extension for my finger). I also carried a Glock 22 the same way...depended on the mood/situation I was dealing with that day.
@@flyingdutchman7585 Cool. I’m a retired cop. I carried a 5 shot model 60 appendix while in uniform, when we carried wheel guns. I did 31 years in the Miami Dade police dept in Miami, Florida retired 5 years ago.
@@concernedpatriot.2221 I cut my teeth in Miami from 92 to 97 in a HIDTA group. We had locals from Metro, N. Miami Beach and Hialeah in the group. Those were some fun times back then before everything got political and Miami was still running and gunning, so lots of action.
@@johnbrown2163 not really. 😁. If it was, I wouldn't be driving in a vehicle. There are "safer" things I could be doing. I wouldn't be playing tackle football without pads. Etc. 😁
@@renhosti Accidents and friendly fire are also dangerous. Playing John Lovell instead of getting out of the Danger zone makes no sense to me. Pew pew now you in court defending your life. Pew Pew now you bleeding out or family dying... You cannot fight and save you buddy at the same time. I love guns I just think you not safe cause you armed.
I got into an actual fist fight and intense grappling situation after I was unexpectedly attacked by a much bigger stranger on a public sidewalk last year. This happened while I was appendix carrying a loaded 9 mm with a Kydex holster. Gun never went off, and thankfully I was able to win the fight and be able to live to write this comment today. 🙏🏽
Glad you survived my dude. Yeah I carry a Gen 3 Glock 19 with a Kydex holster appendix also, nothing like that positive "click" to let you know you're locked in. I could do a backflip (if I were able to lol) and I am quite confident my holster or gun would stay firmly in place. I use RCS pull the dot soft loops, and they've never failed me.
I carry a Glock 36 because 45acp... in an Urban Carry IWB holster, and I have to say that I don't understand why the individual that unexpectedly attacked you survived? Savages will attack random people intending to kill them every day, and I'm not a fighter; if someone unexpectedly attacked me, they would immediately receive free acupuncture.
@@lawrencestanley8989 with all due respect, glock is a cheerleader tool. But I appreciate your efforts to escape the stereotype by going with .45, girls like you are hard to find
@@BitcoinWillFixEverything Hello holster, I'm dad. I guess when it's at least a shrouded hammer, he'll have no problem and could also shoot directly from the pocket.
Remember that there is never an instance in self defence where you need to reholster your weapon quickly, and the only possible risk in appendix carry comes from reholstering. Take the holster off, reholster the firearm pointed in a safe direction, and then put the holstered firearm back on your belt. It's just that simple.
This was one of the best explanations of appendix carry and the reality of how much you actually flag yourself with multiple carry positions. Keep leading the way, John.
Let me get this straight: You comment something that is unrelated to the fact that I have two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest RUclipsr ever, having two hot girlfriends is really incredible. Yet you did not mention that at all. I am quite disappointed, dear din
When I was in Iraq, I was a gunner in a CH-53E helicopter. Everything above my waste was snuggled in body armor. The floor and bulkhead surrounding the gunners hatch were covered with armored plates. I’m just over 6 foot tall. That meant that the armor plate stopped at mid-thigh. I was always very worried about getting my junk shot off. I was in my early 20’s and had a lot of plans when I got back to the ladies. I made it out fine. Appendix carry doesn’t scare me🇺🇸
Ya, I can't say I've ever had that fear. The thing I did was, I unloaded my firearm and just practiced holstering and unholstering on and on and on until I was good. Also when I put my gun and holster on, I NEVER put them on separately. I only put it on with the gun in the holster. The less amount of time you reholster a firearm while the holster is already attached the better. God bless
@Die Kista oh I agree I'm just saying a holstered gun doesn't go off. It's drawing and holstering that's the issue which also means that the lines he shows you would get shot in probably aren't valid. Personally I don't find appendix comfortable but I also don't care what other people do as long as they try to do it safely. All gun handling involves some level of risk
As far as AIWB goes, I tell people to carefully reholster so that you don't shoot your Family Artery. The Femoral Artery is out of the way but the Family Artery is in the fatal funnel of fire. Great video.
@@KC-fb8ql Not every gun. A 12 pound trigger is not going to pull itself. If you have a hammer to ride with your thumb, that’s even better. There will never be no risk in carrying, but you can eliminate a lot of it with what you carry.
Party On! Love it. Appendix for me too. I add one additional peace of mind thang by carrying a DA/SA. Thumb pressing the hammer and it AINT gonna go bang.
Although I'm a little late to the party, I found this video to be one of the best practical explanations of holstered carry positions and the considerations of carrying risks. It literally took a lot of balls to cover this topic effectively...and we (myself and the boys) thank you!
John, I'm a pastor and I absolutely love the delicate way you work through terminology that I'm sure would come out of you differently with your ranger buddies. It gives me a good laugh. The struggle is real.
@@Ontarianmm Definitely NOT true. Getting shot in the balls would bleed, and bleed a lot. It is generally assumed you could live for maybe an hour or even more if that did happen (there aren't exactly a lot of examples to draw great conclusions from). If you sever your femoral artery you will be lucky if you make it to 3 minutes.
@@Ontarianmm Anyone who is actually worried about shooting themself has no business carrying a pistol. You won’t be worth a damn when the split second time comes to draw and shoot to protect yourself or others. You will be to scared to react when the time comes.
I went with a manual safety P365 for appendix carry. Since my shooting thumb is so use to on and off switching my AR, the incorporation of the manual safety into my appendix draw is of minimal impact to my draw to fire times. Do what makes you comfortable! And train that way on repeat.
I would just like to clarify, there's only EVER been 2 berries. The people talking about the 3rd are misinformed, just 2 completely normal, surprisingly comparable in size, berries.
The vehicle analogy was perfect. I tell people all the time that the most dangerous thing we do everyday, is drive. Im not downplaying the dangers of firearms in anyway. I just try to bring it to peoples mind. Danger is everywhere. #1 safety, is between the ears my friends. 👍
I carry everytime I leave the home, often with IIIA Kevlar. I avoid the highways in Cincinnati when ever possible. Its safer to take back roads to my destination than play Russian Roulette on I75 within the 275 Loop
The flaw in this reasoning is we aren't choosing one over the other. We're compounding the risky activities. So just because driving is more dangerous doesn't mean we disregard the risk analysis of other risky behaviors. But to your credit, you did state you were not arguing this point. So I suppose this is just additional information.
I know this is an old video but as an EMT I actually ran on a call where an off duty LEO was carrying in the 3 o’ clock and had exactly what you talked about in the video happen to him. He was at a restaurant with his family and while he was getting in or out of the booth his gun went off somehow. Still not sure how that happened or what gun/holster he was using. But he had 3 wounds, 1 entry and 2 exit and lost a lot of blood and was super pale and needed to be air lifted out
I drive a Ford, I don’t trust anything, including my brakes. Every time I arrive somewhere on time, I thank the lord for the miracle and tell my guardian angel to take a 10 minute break.
Bottom line: ALWAYS carry to your comfort level. You should only carry a blaster that you are comfortable that you can manage, in a manner that you can manage. I am 6' 230lbs, so I have a little extra meat around my waist and I still carry exclusively appendix, I just carry a slightly more compact gun. As you said, this is why you spend time and good money on a good blaster, a good holster and training. People worry when I tell them I carry with one in the chamber, but if you need that first shot in a hurry, you wouldn't care. I am simply more comfortable knowing I can get it out and ready that much quicker and easier.
I disagree to a point. Cadre & combat veteran Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch says; hand guns are comforting not comfortable. I say choose a style that you can quickly, smoothly access 1 handed 🖐🏻 & get access with your weak hand(non shooting) hand. I carry strong side with my holster in a regular, straight position. I used to use a slight FBI cant: 15 degrees or so. My large waist & flab tend to do that now. SOB or MOB(middle of back) are not a good pick. 🚫 you can be knocked over or hurt then seriously damage your spine, lower back with a gun laying on your back. Crossdraw is not a popular choice in the 2020s. I've used crossdraw in the past but it's not a great idea either.
A guy at a private range was practicing his quick-draw from appendix. He wound up neg-discharging into the ground in front of his big toe, got scared, clammed up and promptly left the range. The best thing I learned aside from K.I.S.S. is: slow is steady, steady is fast. Focus on what you're doing while train your muscles, they'll be fast when you need to be - just make sure they're doing the correct movements. :) ..... Personally I'm a 4:00 guy, it's not as efficient but it's what I've been practicing for almost a decade and it's more comfy for me. More comfy means I wear it more, means I'll more likely have it on me when I see that turkey, snake, crazy guy pointing his pistol at people at the cosco, zombies - whatever's clever
@@dennisoconnor8958I think thereS an argument for learning to draw and fire ASAP. if you are drawing your firearm, it is to secure your life or the lives of others. You are a defender. That means you are responding to an ambush, or an attack, so said attacker WILL have a weapon ready by the time you do. If their attention is on you, and you draw, you have to be fast or you will be dead.
Right-on....I just started carrying appendix this year after realizing the speed of draw difference from the 4 o'clock and control of the weapon in a hands-on situation.
I am a well-rounded individual you might say okay fat and this is probably the best video on carrying I've seen I appreciate you addressing us males with spare tires and some luggage thank you
I'm a relatively new legal carrier. I really appreciate your videos and advice. I have tried carrying in all three positions, but feel safest with this position. I feel it's easier to get to, and easier to protect. Thank you for your videos.
John, OK, you convinced me...to keep carrying at 8 O’Clock (I’m left handed). It would be a lot easier to heal from a butt cheek wound, and when I’m sitting or driving my muzzle isn’t even covering me. I practice drawing and reholstering every day from this position, so though I see your point, I have to do what I feel confident about, and covering the boys isn’t it. I totally respect your opinion, though.
I like the way John thinks about the different things that could happen and talks out the different carry options. Really nice discussion about the main ways to carry IWB
I'm an appendix carry user for years as well. For me I love the advantage of having my weapon in my power zone, near an area that we as humans reflexively protect. As a side note, its an area people in a crowd are less likely to bump without us seeing it coming. For me, its the way I carry and train. I find the draw and presentation fast and consistent. My only comment is that when using any concealed holster with the ability to quickly remove (like a clip on belt type), I would argue to remove the holster before reholstering. After all, im in no hurry to reholster in a concealed carry use of force situation. Awesome video!
As always, thank you droppin’ the knowledge. Your experience and expertise go a long way to ensure that the carry & conceal community is properly educated and feel confidently reassured that AIWB is safe. Period.
I'd love to hear your protocol and or tips or carring appendix and using the restroom, repeated bending over to pick items up off floor, seat belt placement in the car, and any other daily scenarios that could be helpful. Keep up the good worik!
This nube needed that. I like your lighthearted yet serious teaching approach. That’s how I role as a teacher too. Thanks. I’m looking forward to digging into more videos and learning more. Thanks again.
I subscribed the first time I saw his videos on RUclips. Thx John, you have no idea how much you help and educate the guys that want to learn more like myself. Your worth your weight in GOLD.
Great video. It is all about training and putting time in on your draw and re-holster. Unfortunately working at a public range I know of two AD's from two experienced shooters carrying appendex as they were re-holstering the gun. Both were trying to re-holster too quickly got sloppy with therir trigger finger and discharged the firearm. One gent is missing parts ( the gas ball coming out of the barrel will cause some signifcant damage) and the other narrowly missed arteries but did send a round down the inside of his thigh exiting at his knee. Train how you carry and once you are done shooting be careful on the re-holstering aspect. Cheers!
@@Sunshine-30 apparently it only effects certain guns on the PPS M2 (the earlier serial numbers) I have one that was made in late 2016 (release year) and was made after the effected guns. If you do have one with a recall it's fixable by Walther at no cost of course. Funny it took a couple years for them to figure out there was a problem tho since I thought drop testing is always done. Guess not. Wonder how they finally figured it out, yikes.
@@allaboutroofing2 I think the 320 fiasco taught us that not all brew designs are drop tested properly like we would have once assumed. Pretty ridiculous how many manufacturers used us as beta testers.
Best advice, it's guns it's all dangerous. Good video. I've been carrying well over 45 years and practice popping 50 to 100 rounds pulling, firing and replacing 3 to 4 times a month WITH THE HANDGUN I CARRY! 45 years of experiance has taught mr that due to the unpredictable nature of life I carry a DA/SA with a safety that blocks the hammer, firing pin, slide and trigger. I as said before regularly train so flicking a safety is automatic. The tactical advantage of concealed carry is CONCEALMENT! Appendix carry really is great for those who have a body shape where it works and who TRAIN.
Another great video, John. I carry appendix every day as well, and agreed, the carry position is only as safe as the operator. Operator failure is the only reason for an ND.
I learn something tonight very important and safe was always look inside your iwb holster before you inserted your gun back in appendix, and I thought I had all the angles covered
Yes, it’s absolutely safe. I’ve been carrying a Glock 17 with a TLR8 in a Tier1concealed axis slim holster in the appendix position for years. As long as your booger hook is off the bang switch and you carry in a quality hard sided kydex holster with the trigger completely covered , you’ll be just fine carrying appendix. Rule #1: Don’t carry a crappy gun that you don’t already trust to be safe to carry in any other holster/position. Rule # 2: If you don’t pay attention to when you holster or reholster your firearm, you run the same risk of a negligent discharge injuring/potentially inducing a fatal injury regardless of the position of the holster, so especially pay attention when holstering and reholstering. Rule #3: Carry in a quality kydex holster that is actually designed to carry in that position. Don’t blame the position for being uncomfortable or unsafe when you’re not using the right tool for the job. Appendix carry is totally safe if you already handle handguns safely, and if you’re trained to carry and shoot from that position. Don’t be an idiot with any gun, and you’ll be fine. Appendix just lets you hide bigger guns better and more comfortably, which is why I carry my Glock 17 appendix. YMMV
Appendix is definitely best for concealment. I'm not a large guy and I hide a Glock 34/TLR1/Holosun508T in a Tier 1 Concealed holster, with spare mag. No print. No ND either. And it's comfortable.
Hi thanks for your input, I'm assuming all of those concern is for those who chamber a round and carry appendix, am I correct. If I don't chamber a round, I good right?
After I heard "in and out" I clicked the like button and forgot anything else you said haha Also, could you do another video on appendix carry, but maybe a little more zoomed in? I don't think we really saw enough to understand.
Thanks for the entertaining and informative video. I've always carried OWB 4:30. My aversion to AIWB comes from years of IDPA shooting. Anyone who has shot much IDPA will have heard "Muzzle, muzzle, muzzle". But I'm willing to give it a try. Think I'll carry AIWB for a couple of weeks on an empty chamber and see how it goes. I agree, being able to see the holster before and during the holstering process is a big advantage.
Before watching answer: I sure as hell hope so! Got a 9mm pointed at my bits right now 😂 Proper holster that covers the trigger on a striker fire pistol = ✅
It's in a holster, and it is angled in such a way that the path of a bullet is in line with my bits. It is intentionally placed there by me, therefore it is pointed at my bits... by me.... To each their own 🤪
My back is too arched for appendix, even in the days I had six pack abs. Three o'clock with a forward cant works best for me. However when dressed up I sometimes do the ol' Red Reddington and carry small of the back. This option is only practical with an open jacket and owb holster.
I may have missed it, but if you use a concealment wedge, it creates a standoff (angles the barrel further away from you body/boys) which adds a margin of safety.
John my carry firearm is a Taurus G2C 9 mm. Taurus has a thumb safety on the left which I have gotten used to and like. Just takes practice to release the safety as you bring the weapon up.
Or when they offer you free shipping on your 1st purchase if you join the buyers club and give you a 1 month free trial and then you place your order, get a confirmation AND then immediately send you another email telling you that your CC will automatically be billed $50 for your Club membership at the end of 30 days. Your choice. Cancel your order and club membership or pay the shipping. In my case it was $25 shipping on a 1k case of 9mm 115fmj and with shipping would have made ea round about .50 instead of .27. Also a one time SG purchase. If you plan on buying a lot from SG in a year yea you can save $$$. I do believe it's a yearly thing too.
@@2wheeleddemon999 Well it would be nice if they informed you beforehand what the terms are because if they did then many including myself wouldn't sign up. After makes it a problem. It took a bit of doing to get it resolved, step one was canceling the order and step two was canceling the membership. I remember it was on a holiday so I had to get it done before it was shipped and two I'm halfway around the world so there's a 14 hour time difference and three it was at the height of the COVID lockdown and I spent an hour on hold because of short staffing. Fortunately I was using Skype and their toll free number works. I was up until around midnight before my turn came up, OK and does that answer your question?
@@2wheeleddemon999 It all depends. I’m a yearly member. Been one for six years I believe. Bought thousands of dollars worth of ammo over that time period. They used to have everything under the sun at good prices with free shipping ammo wise. Now I find myself mostly buying military surplus items since ammo’s out of stock everywhere. I’ll keep my membership a bit longer & see if ammo comes back at affordable prices. Otherwise I’ll ditch my membership too.
John Lovell, best of the best class act. Sportsman Guide, screwed me on backorders after being a super loyal customer for years. NOMO FO Me. Love ya John
Awesome stuff! I agree 100% with everything in this video. I’d only add 1 safety tip, for shooters on the range who have less than ideal safety, flimsy leather holsters, or difficulty holstering, organize shot volley to end on an empty gun. Utilize a firing line table to make ready and reholster the firearm “out of the waistband”. It takes way more time, but nothing ruins a range day like a ND into a testicle.
Thanks for the video! I have started switching over to appendix carry. I used to like 4 o clock (I have no ass to shoot off) but I didn't like the fact I wouldn't be able to tell if my shirt got pulled over or if I am imprinting (I am very thin so its harder to conceal in that position). I like appendix carry because it is easier for me to conceal, I can see everything better when holstering or unholstering and if you end up in a physical altercation it would be easier to defend and prevent an unwanted unholstering when it is in front of you rather than behind you. I feel this is the ideal skinny dude carry position
Best thing about appendix carry is all your “gear” is already in your work space.... no extra reaching or jerkin required.... P.S. that’s a badass hoody !
A great video and I agree with your logic here. Another way to be a little bit safer is to carry a hammer-fired weapon and cover that hammer with the thumb all the way in while holstering. Also, an external safety disconnects the trigger and totally takes it out of the equation. A thumb covering the hammer takes the hammer out of the equation too. Your mileage may vary and we all have our own degree of what is acceptable and unacceptable to our personal safety when a firearm is pushed inside our pants. A round can not be fired without the primer being struck by the firing pin or striker. However that eventually is dealt with so that that possibility is made as close to zero as personally comfortable is up to the individual with the firearm stuck inside their pants. You do you -but do it intelligently knowing as much about all the factors as possible before making your own decisions.
This video made appendix carry much more attractive to me. I may try it in the future. It also made more attractive double-action and decocker DA/SA triggers, with their long and generally heavier trigger pulls. Such triggers are less likely to be pulled negligently, accidentally, or otherwise absent-mindedly or unintentionally. Decocking my DA/SA will help me avoid decocking myself.
@@Gieszkanne That's a great point. I've never appreciated grip safeties, thinking they're a liability if I had to shoot without a good grip on the gun or from an awkward firing position. But they can definitely make reholstering safer, and being passive with practice they're far less of a liability than a manual safety. I think I won't look at grill safeties dismissively anymore. I'd like to try one. Kel-Tec's next pistol, a 9mm carry gun, has a grip safety that can be toggled on and off with a little switch when the gun is disassembled. The switch locks the grip safety in. I didn't fully appreciate the feature until now. I think it would be good if many more handguns had an optional grip safety. With most guns, a negligent discharge when reholstering is a far greater danger than a grip safety preventing an essential gunshot in a firefight. Most guns aren't even on defensive duty. And any that are being carried in a way that causes concern about the risk of an unintended firing may benefit from a grip safety.
That first picture of a wound was actually a Kydex holster. The one that operators typically shoot themselves with, I believe it's a Blackhawk. Because you break retention with the index finger right over the trigger guard.
I've been appendix carrying going on 3 years, never had a problem or injury. Sometimes when I open carry I'll use the 3 o'clock position with my regular holster looped though my belt. I prefer appendix carry. The main thing is practice, practice.... practice. No matter how you chose to carry.
I carry at about 3:30. Appendix carry isn't allowed for IDPA. That particular holster looks good. Fast out and slow in is a good plan. I run a M1911. I always double check that the external safety is set before trying to holster.
This was an interesting video. As one who is Deaf since birth, the first rule of gun ownership is to position your gun in a way that it cannot be taken from you; meaning that your first obligation is to protect your gun at all costs from others . I've tried several different positions and the only position that enabled me to protect my gun and be comfortable (I have a full sized gun) is crossdraw. I'm right handed, so my gun sits on my belt in a paddle holster near my left hip. This position allows me to buckle up easily in a car, sit in a chair comfortably, and gives me a relaxed position to draw my gun out. Italian police use crossdraw, the Indiana Sheriff's carry crossdraw after much testing and research. For me, the crossdraw position beats every other type of carry method. I can defend someone's attempt to take my gun from me easily, with the martial arts training I have. And if you have a large handgun, crossdraw makes life much easier to deal with your gun.
This is why the garter holster is where it’s at. Side benefit is lifting up a little bit of your skirt serves as a good distraction and they never guess you’re going for a weapon. The WTF looks you get practicing at the range are pretty hilarious.
@@WarriorPoetSociety carry on if it makes you happy it can't be that bad. MK- just be happy. Ultra Lovell its like lost in space Elon wanted to marry me. Today Our baby NASA launches crew Dragon to ISS in the ooda loop. I will always love you. No matter what. The King of UAE holds his daughter hostage until I comeCIA keeps trading me off because you do you all damn day Erdogan wants to play- No way because you just walk away. Well they are going to get it next after McCabe said it was a calling for such a weak excuse. Whatever. You manifest what you desire. If that is not relevant to me 💋 then just be free.💔
It's funny, a bunch of these clowns will say, "you shouldn't have to look at your holster to holster your weapon, you're not being tactical"..... Well children, if I'm holstering my pistol then that means the fight is over and I've won and the scene is secure!! You're welcome!!!
Or you have to holster it quickly before a police officer shows up and doesn't know what's going on. I'd rather not be told to go on the ground at gunpoint with a possible nd in my belly
@@andrewbetances1203 you're going facedown no matter what mate
@@turns-jt7te my hope is to be holstered and concealed before anyone is able to process what happened. Then I'll just be a bystander again.... Actually my hope is to not be in the situation to begin with.
@@andrewbetances1203 shooting someone... Then hoping to skedaddle before anyone notices. Mate idk the angle you see things from but this is a really good way to wind up in hot water with the law.
@@turns-jt7te never said anything about leaving. Quite the contrary. I need to make sure any weapons don't get legs and walk away.
I'm talking about as few people knowing I have a CCW as possible including police until it's safe to disclose what happened. That's in an ideal situation anyways. With my luck, I'll pull on someone about to kill me or my family then a cop will think I'm attempting to murder an innocent ex con with a gun.
22 years undercover experience speaking. I started with small in the back carry, but found that it caused serious back and hip problems from sitting in a car. Went to appendix carry and carried that way the rest of the time. Tons of Raids, chases, fights and three shootings...never had a problem of it dropping out or getting to it when needed. During that time, holsters evolved (and actually got better). Currently, I like the Q Series for my Glocks, fit the weapon great, good trigger guard but very minimalist. Love what you do WPS, keep up the good work fellow patriot.
There was a guy who got in a car accident with one of those horizontal in-the-back holsters. I think he had a 1911. Anyway, it left a 1911-shaped crater in his back, displacing several vertebrae in the lower lumbar-sacral junction and causing serious spinal injury. Not sure what happened with him long-term.
What gun were you using ?
@@concernedpatriot.2221 I mainly carry a Glock 26 with a Glock 19 mag (this gives a bit of extension for my finger). I also carried a Glock 22 the same way...depended on the mood/situation I was dealing with that day.
@@flyingdutchman7585 Cool. I’m a retired cop. I carried a 5 shot model 60 appendix while in uniform, when we carried wheel guns.
I did 31 years in the Miami Dade police dept in Miami, Florida retired 5 years ago.
@@concernedpatriot.2221 I cut my teeth in Miami from 92 to 97 in a HIDTA group. We had locals from Metro, N. Miami Beach and Hialeah in the group. Those were some fun times back then before everything got political and Miami was still running and gunning, so lots of action.
“Hey it’s guns, it’s all dangerous”
Happy Veterans Day brother 🇺🇸🤙🇺🇸 #Thankyouforyourservice”
Thank you for being a Great American!
And that's the point. 👍
@@renhosti Safety is #1 priority.
@@johnbrown2163 not really. 😁. If it was, I wouldn't be driving in a vehicle. There are "safer" things I could be doing. I wouldn't be playing tackle football without pads. Etc. 😁
@@renhosti Accidents and friendly fire are also dangerous. Playing John Lovell instead of getting out of the Danger zone makes no sense to me. Pew pew now you in court defending your life. Pew Pew now you bleeding out or family dying... You cannot fight and save you buddy at the same time. I love guns I just think you not safe cause you armed.
I got into an actual fist fight and intense grappling situation after I was unexpectedly attacked by a much bigger stranger on a public sidewalk last year. This happened while I was appendix carrying a loaded 9 mm with a Kydex holster. Gun never went off, and thankfully I was able to win the fight and be able to live to write this comment today. 🙏🏽
Glad you survived my dude. Yeah I carry a Gen 3 Glock 19 with a Kydex holster appendix also, nothing like that positive "click" to let you know you're locked in. I could do a backflip (if I were able to lol) and I am quite confident my holster or gun would stay firmly in place. I use RCS pull the dot soft loops, and they've never failed me.
@@ares2067 I have the same holster and love it!
I carry a Glock 36 because 45acp... in an Urban Carry IWB holster, and I have to say that I don't understand why the individual that unexpectedly attacked you survived? Savages will attack random people intending to kill them every day, and I'm not a fighter; if someone unexpectedly attacked me, they would immediately receive free acupuncture.
@@lawrencestanley8989 and then you deal with litigation the rest of your life and the scumbags family will win a civil suit
@@lawrencestanley8989 with all due respect, glock is a cheerleader tool. But I appreciate your efforts to escape the stereotype by going with .45, girls like you are hard to find
Lol I love John’s sense of humor. I can tell he’s genuinely a good man.
I envy his goodness
I had the pleasure of meeting him. He is blessing to be around!!! As nice as he seems in his videos he’s somehow nicer in person!
Yea ok John...
His sense of humor is terrible lol
Would def kill some brews w him though
I carry a revolver in my front hoodie pocket.
I call it "Kangaroo Karry" my revolver is the Joey.
Interesting. I'm a holster. Does it require 2 hands to remove gun from the holster?
@@BitcoinWillFixEverything
Hello holster, I'm dad.
I guess when it's at least a shrouded hammer, he'll have no problem and could also shoot directly from the pocket.
Let me see it bro
Please tell me you’re kidding.
Firearms need holsters. Need to be able to be hands-free AND keep that trigger from ever getting inadvertently pulled.
Damn Aussies.... brilliant. I bet I could fit my 460 xvr in my deer hunting muff.
Since my femoral artery doesn't run through my testicle ill be alright - John 2020
LOL
After saying the worse thing would be shooting off one of those
That needs to be on a war poet shirt
Should have mad it a Bible verse.
John 20:20.
No John you will be all left lol
Remember that there is never an instance in self defence where you need to reholster your weapon quickly, and the only possible risk in appendix carry comes from reholstering.
Take the holster off, reholster the firearm pointed in a safe direction, and then put the holstered firearm back on your belt.
It's just that simple.
Massive W comment thx
the risk of re-upholstering applies to everywhere you carry. Just pay attention while you are doing it and there is no issue.
@@gae384 yes.
You might end up with some shit from the 70s..
@@gae384 unless it's a sw38 on blue and green, like the shit I grew up on.
This is everything
This was one of the best explanations of appendix carry and the reality of how much you actually flag yourself with multiple carry positions.
Keep leading the way, John.
🤣
Guys John Lovell said testicle and ballerina arabesque in the same video. We did it, we finally did it. We broke him.
😂😂😂 it was a matter of time
He’ll be wearing Uggz and a scarf in the next video. You heard it here first.
Bwaahhhahaha!
LOL
I'm just impressed John knows what arabesque is, and I only know because my daughter loves ballet!
Just go ahead and Insert: “That’s what she said” at nearly ever other second of the video.
Let me get this straight: You comment something that is unrelated to the fact that I have two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest RUclipsr ever, having two hot girlfriends is really incredible. Yet you did not mention that at all. I am quite disappointed, dear din
"Just go ahead and insert" Thats what she said
“She goes in and out and in and out and she said plays all night and the music just right, mama’s got a squeeze box daddy never sleeps at night!”
🤣🤣🤣
@@AxxLAfriku What did I just watch?
When I was in Iraq, I was a gunner in a CH-53E helicopter.
Everything above my waste was snuggled in body armor. The floor and bulkhead surrounding the gunners hatch were covered with armored plates. I’m just over 6 foot tall. That meant that the armor plate stopped at mid-thigh.
I was always very worried about getting my junk shot off. I was in my early 20’s and had a lot of plans when I got back to the ladies. I made it out fine.
Appendix carry doesn’t scare me🇺🇸
Thank you for your service!
people who appendix carry are female or men with small penises
I didn’t think helicopter gunners had nutz, learned something new today. 😆
@@thenoneckpeoplerepresentat8074 not what your mom said🫡
@@jrb13bales I'm sure the ladies thank him for his "service" as well.
"I don't want to die and I don't want that worse thing either" awesome line
Ya, I can't say I've ever had that fear. The thing I did was, I unloaded my firearm and just practiced holstering and unholstering on and on and on until I was good. Also when I put my gun and holster on, I NEVER put them on separately. I only put it on with the gun in the holster. The less amount of time you reholster a firearm while the holster is already attached the better.
God bless
Yup I don't worry about a holstered gun in any position. It's the holstering and unholstering that's more worrying.
@Die Kista oh I agree I'm just saying a holstered gun doesn't go off. It's drawing and holstering that's the issue which also means that the lines he shows you would get shot in probably aren't valid. Personally I don't find appendix comfortable but I also don't care what other people do as long as they try to do it safely. All gun handling involves some level of risk
3:30 “I’m standing with my .... legs”
John you never fail to drop such amazing wisdom.
As far as AIWB goes, I tell people to carefully reholster so that you don't shoot your Family Artery. The Femoral Artery is out of the way but the Family Artery is in the fatal funnel of fire. Great video.
Lmao that's great.
A ND while AIWB carrying should be called an RTS "Rapid Transition Surgery."
The family artery😂😂😂
As I heard it said, when you carry appendix every gun has a decocker.
@@KC-fb8ql Not every gun. A 12 pound trigger is not going to pull itself. If you have a hammer to ride with your thumb, that’s even better. There will never be no risk in carrying, but you can eliminate a lot of it with what you carry.
Hey John, we never thought it possible, but you just keep getting weirder. This could be the best video yet.
Even though he’s a ranger battalion but he’s a special one
You just like the way he’s reaching into his pants. Come on just say it.
@@vicdiaz5180 this comment made me laugh and no I don’t
Party On! Love it. Appendix for me too.
I add one additional peace of mind thang by carrying a DA/SA. Thumb pressing the hammer and it AINT gonna go bang.
@@Chris09978 I was told they all are.. special.. lol
“Is that a suppressor in your pants or are you just happy to see me”
NO, IT'S MY 9
I was going to make a joke, but nothing is going to beat "appenDIX"
Well done
Perfection!
John, while including humor you and the team made this maybe the most objective offering I've seen to date. Great job! Keep up the great work at WPS!
“My right ball would immediately be destroyed”
Married guys:
Just one! Appendix it is.
100% effective birth control.
Isn't hydrostatic shock a thing
Gun gets one side the wife gets the other HAHA
No, its.
Married guys: I don't use them anyway 🤷♂️
@@JamesBond-oc4gm hahaha, its funny cuz its true! Lol
"Some folks that have a bit more of a belly..." Why you gotta light me up like that while I'm eating Cap'n Crunch?
LOL Good one dude!
I’m a coco pebbles man myself 😂
You should do a video on dressing for concealed carry for different seasons and different types of clothing.
What are you 5? Cant dress your self?
Although I'm a little late to the party, I found this video to be one of the best practical explanations of holstered carry positions and the considerations of carrying risks. It literally took a lot of balls to cover this topic effectively...and we (myself and the boys) thank you!
Clever fellow
@@1John3.8 underrated
John, I'm a pastor and I absolutely love the delicate way you work through terminology that I'm sure would come out of you differently with your ranger buddies. It gives me a good laugh. The struggle is real.
He's the "Mr Rogers" of the tactical gun community.
“I don’t have any legs...” immediately remembers the 3rd leg.
😳 🙄🤦🏻♂️
Maybe he does mean it 💀💀💀
Best part of the video
"Luckily the femoral artery doesn't run through my right ball"
Yeaaaaa, about that. Men tend to have a lot of blood down there to keep production up. So you will bleed out basically just as fast.
If I shot my right nut off I’d wish my femoral artery ran through there.
@@Ontarianmm Definitely NOT true. Getting shot in the balls would bleed, and bleed a lot. It is generally assumed you could live for maybe an hour or even more if that did happen (there aren't exactly a lot of examples to draw great conclusions from). If you sever your femoral artery you will be lucky if you make it to 3 minutes.
@@Ontarianmm Anyone who is actually worried about shooting themself has no business carrying a pistol. You won’t be worth a damn when the split second time comes to draw and shoot to protect yourself or others. You will be to scared to react when the time comes.
@@rickh5088 You can pack your groin to slow down bleeding enough to survive getting help. The femoral much less likely.
I went with a manual safety P365 for appendix carry. Since my shooting thumb is so use to on and off switching my AR, the incorporation of the manual safety into my appendix draw is of minimal impact to my draw to fire times. Do what makes you comfortable! And train that way on repeat.
INCLUDING a manual safety, is a great feature for those who believe they need it.👍
"I feel that can right there. That's cold on JUST the right ball." - John Lovell
I've been carrying appendix for 6 years now and still have my twig and 3 berries... I mean 2 berries. Totally only 2 berries.
Just here for the appendage jokes...
If an accident were to happen and you lose one you would just be normal then.
Lmao. Same. Cc appendix for 6 years also. I carry 1 clock position.
I would just like to clarify, there's only EVER been 2 berries. The people talking about the 3rd are misinformed, just 2 completely normal, surprisingly comparable in size, berries.
@@Z0mbieMike Lawsuit being filed now... we the people demand a recount
The vehicle analogy was perfect. I tell people all the time that the most dangerous thing we do everyday, is drive. Im not downplaying the dangers of firearms in anyway. I just try to bring it to peoples mind. Danger is everywhere. #1 safety, is between the ears my friends. 👍
I carry everytime I leave the home, often with IIIA Kevlar. I avoid the highways in Cincinnati when ever possible. Its safer to take back roads to my destination than play Russian Roulette on I75 within the 275 Loop
The flaw in this reasoning is we aren't choosing one over the other. We're compounding the risky activities. So just because driving is more dangerous doesn't mean we disregard the risk analysis of other risky behaviors.
But to your credit, you did state you were not arguing this point. So I suppose this is just additional information.
I know this is an old video but as an EMT I actually ran on a call where an off duty LEO was carrying in the 3 o’ clock and had exactly what you talked about in the video happen to him. He was at a restaurant with his family and while he was getting in or out of the booth his gun went off somehow. Still not sure how that happened or what gun/holster he was using. But he had 3 wounds, 1 entry and 2 exit and lost a lot of blood and was super pale and needed to be air lifted out
Was the Gun a Sig?
I think the best part of all the intros is John trying SO HARD to keep a straight face and not lose it.
I drive a Ford, I don’t trust anything, including my brakes. Every time I arrive somewhere on time, I thank the lord for the miracle and tell my guardian angel to take a 10 minute break.
Scotty Kilmer has do it yourself brake videos.
Garret B. You win comment of the month
Well you heard him boys, we've got a 10 minute window on this guy anytime he's punctual.
@@thisismagacountry1318 I thought he quit......
F.O.R.D. = Fix Or Repair Daily!
Using the suppressed gun to illustrate the angle of travel for the bullet was genius! Thank you for what you do. Keep up the great work.
Came for John's awkward explanation of TMI (and the click-bait title)...stayed for the good info. Thanks brother!
Bottom line: ALWAYS carry to your comfort level. You should only carry a blaster that you are comfortable that you can manage, in a manner that you can manage. I am 6' 230lbs, so I have a little extra meat around my waist and I still carry exclusively appendix, I just carry a slightly more compact gun. As you said, this is why you spend time and good money on a good blaster, a good holster and training. People worry when I tell them I carry with one in the chamber, but if you need that first shot in a hurry, you wouldn't care. I am simply more comfortable knowing I can get it out and ready that much quicker and easier.
To me carrying without one in the chamber is just stupid
I like how you said blaster
I disagree to a point. Cadre & combat veteran Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch says; hand guns are comforting not comfortable. I say choose a style that you can quickly, smoothly access 1 handed 🖐🏻 & get access with your weak hand(non shooting) hand. I carry strong side with my holster in a regular, straight position. I used to use a slight FBI cant: 15 degrees or so. My large waist & flab tend to do that now. SOB or MOB(middle of back) are not a good pick. 🚫 you can be knocked over or hurt then seriously damage your spine, lower back with a gun laying on your back. Crossdraw is not a popular choice in the 2020s. I've used crossdraw in the past but it's not a great idea either.
Most important quote, "hey it's guns, it's all dangerous" made me chuckle
A guy at a private range was practicing his quick-draw from appendix. He wound up neg-discharging into the ground in front of his big toe, got scared, clammed up and promptly left the range. The best thing I learned aside from K.I.S.S. is: slow is steady, steady is fast. Focus on what you're doing while train your muscles, they'll be fast when you need to be - just make sure they're doing the correct movements. :)
..... Personally I'm a 4:00 guy, it's not as efficient but it's what I've been practicing for almost a decade and it's more comfy for me. More comfy means I wear it more, means I'll more likely have it on me when I see that turkey, snake, crazy guy pointing his pistol at people at the cosco, zombies - whatever's clever
Unless you are a competition shooter, I personally see no reason to practice a "quick draw". Like you stated, slow is smooth, smooth is fast
@@dennisoconnor8958I think thereS an argument for learning to draw and fire ASAP. if you are drawing your firearm, it is to secure your life or the lives of others. You are a defender. That means you are responding to an ambush, or an attack, so said attacker WILL have a weapon ready by the time you do. If their attention is on you, and you draw, you have to be fast or you will be dead.
@@dennisoconnor89582 sec draw is good to have. Appendix may be the quickest with 0.75 attainable
I've tried 4 o'clock but it's too uncomfortable. Do you have any tips?
@@anarchisttutor7423 2:30 to 3 for me. 4:00 pushes against my hip when I sit. Look at appendix carry.
Theres a more detailed vid on John's onlyfans
Ooo, can I get a link
🤣🤣🤣 ftw!
@@alexblack9609 lmao
hahaha!!!
🤣🤣😂😅
Outstanding!! I started Appendix Carry this year and It's truly the best, easiest to draw and most comfortable. Great Video, thanks!
Right-on....I just started carrying appendix this year after realizing the speed of draw difference from the 4 o'clock and control of the weapon in a hands-on situation.
I am a well-rounded individual you might say okay fat and this is probably the best video on carrying I've seen I appreciate you addressing us males with spare tires and some luggage thank you
Hey if I blow by junk off during appendix carry, can I order a replacement from Sportsman's Guide. Is the discount code good for that?
I'm sure there's a "rail or barrel attachment" for that.
The code is "naughty bits".
@@jeffhudson2346 I might try that. LoL.
@@jeffhudson2346 nah it's "bits and pieces"
EVERYONE: Well at least with that silencer on the gun his business isn't in danger.
JOHN: Just the tip.
lol gross
That's why they call him "Lefty"
😂😂😂
I'm a relatively new legal carrier. I really appreciate your videos and advice. I have tried carrying in all three positions, but feel safest with this position. I feel it's easier to get to, and easier to protect. Thank you for your videos.
“New Legal”
@@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104 probably just got his carry permit
My berries tingle every time I holster mine, but I guess this is just added awareness. Keeps me from becoming complacent and making a bad mistake.
John, OK, you convinced me...to keep carrying at 8 O’Clock (I’m left handed). It would be a lot easier to heal from a butt cheek wound, and when I’m sitting or driving my muzzle isn’t even covering me. I practice drawing and reholstering every day from this position, so though I see your point, I have to do what I feel confident about, and covering the boys isn’t it. I totally respect your opinion, though.
~Already knows how to appendix carry~
~Watches every second~
Is it comfortable: “yes”
Ok do it
Is it uncomfortable: “Yes”
Ok, don’t do it
I like the way John thinks about the different things that could happen and talks out the different carry options. Really nice discussion about the main ways to carry IWB
Safety is not in the position of carry. It's in the training, quality of holster, and presence of mind.
....and the gun sometimes ...Springfield Armory has a grip safety on thier gun
As long as it's not a Sig P320, eh?
He said that
@@AlphaMachina I just bought a p320😨 are you saying it's not safe?🥴
Why?
I'm an appendix carry user for years as well. For me I love the advantage of having my weapon in my power zone, near an area that we as humans reflexively protect. As a side note, its an area people in a crowd are less likely to bump without us seeing it coming. For me, its the way I carry and train. I find the draw and presentation fast and consistent. My only comment is that when using any concealed holster with the ability to quickly remove (like a clip on belt type), I would argue to remove the holster before reholstering. After all, im in no hurry to reholster in a concealed carry use of force situation. Awesome video!
I just started appendix carrying my .357 snub revolver, I got be honest. I feel powerful having that much firepower next to my junk.
How do you do when you need to sit down?
@@mrluis2479 pull belt line up a little bit in the front while sitting
As always, thank you droppin’ the knowledge. Your experience and expertise go a long way to ensure that the carry & conceal community is properly educated and feel confidently reassured that AIWB is safe. Period.
I share this with anyone that gives me crap for appendix carry or for anyone nervous about it. Fantastic content as always.
I'd love to hear your protocol and or tips or carring appendix and using the restroom, repeated bending over to pick items up off floor, seat belt placement in the car, and any other daily scenarios that could be helpful. Keep up the good worik!
As a mechanic this is my problem with AIWB with the current JMCK holster anyway.
This nube needed that. I like your lighthearted yet serious teaching approach. That’s how I role as a teacher too. Thanks. I’m looking forward to digging into more videos and learning more. Thanks again.
I subscribed the first time I saw his videos on RUclips. Thx John, you have no idea how much you help and educate the guys that want to learn more like myself. Your worth your weight in GOLD.
Great video. It is all about training and putting time in on your draw and re-holster. Unfortunately working at a public range I know of two AD's from two experienced shooters carrying appendex as they were re-holstering the gun. Both were trying to re-holster too quickly got sloppy with therir trigger finger and discharged the firearm. One gent is missing parts ( the gas ball coming out of the barrel will cause some signifcant damage) and the other narrowly missed arteries but did send a round down the inside of his thigh exiting at his knee. Train how you carry and once you are done shooting be careful on the re-holstering aspect. Cheers!
John: “This gun won’t go off, I can hit it with a hammer...”
Sig p320:
Walther pps m2
@@Sunshine-30 Did I miss something with the pps?
@@JA-oo9qp recall from back in 2018 I think. If its dropped it has the chance to fire according to Walther.
@@Sunshine-30 apparently it only effects certain guns on the PPS M2 (the earlier serial numbers) I have one that was made in late 2016 (release year) and was made after the effected guns. If you do have one with a recall it's fixable by Walther at no cost of course. Funny it took a couple years for them to figure out there was a problem tho since I thought drop testing is always done. Guess not. Wonder how they finally figured it out, yikes.
@@allaboutroofing2 I think the 320 fiasco taught us that not all brew designs are drop tested properly like we would have once assumed. Pretty ridiculous how many manufacturers used us as beta testers.
Best advice, it's guns it's all dangerous. Good video. I've been carrying well over 45 years and practice popping 50 to 100 rounds pulling, firing and replacing 3 to 4 times a month WITH THE HANDGUN I CARRY!
45 years of experiance has taught mr that due to the unpredictable nature of life I carry a DA/SA with a safety that blocks the hammer, firing pin, slide and trigger. I as said before regularly train so flicking a safety is automatic.
The tactical advantage of concealed carry is CONCEALMENT! Appendix carry really is great for those who have a body shape where it works and who TRAIN.
Another great video, John. I carry appendix every day as well, and agreed, the carry position is only as safe as the operator. Operator failure is the only reason for an ND.
I learn something tonight very important and safe was always look inside your iwb holster before you inserted your gun back in appendix, and I thought I had all the angles covered
Yes, it’s absolutely safe. I’ve been carrying a Glock 17 with a TLR8 in a Tier1concealed axis slim holster in the appendix position for years.
As long as your booger hook is off the bang switch and you carry in a quality hard sided kydex holster with the trigger completely covered , you’ll be just fine carrying appendix.
Rule #1: Don’t carry a crappy gun that you don’t already trust to be safe to carry in any other holster/position.
Rule # 2: If you don’t pay attention to when you holster or reholster your firearm, you run the same risk of a negligent discharge injuring/potentially inducing a fatal injury regardless of the position of the holster, so especially pay attention when holstering and reholstering.
Rule #3: Carry in a quality kydex holster that is actually designed to carry in that position.
Don’t blame the position for being uncomfortable or unsafe when you’re not using the right tool for the job.
Appendix carry is totally safe if you already handle handguns safely, and if you’re trained to carry and shoot from that position. Don’t be an idiot with any gun, and you’ll be fine. Appendix just lets you hide bigger guns better and more comfortably, which is why I carry my Glock 17 appendix. YMMV
Appendix is definitely best for concealment. I'm not a large guy and I hide a Glock 34/TLR1/Holosun508T in a Tier 1 Concealed holster, with spare mag. No print. No ND either. And it's comfortable.
Hi thanks for your input, I'm assuming all of those concern is for those who chamber a round and carry appendix, am I correct. If I don't chamber a round, I good right?
After I heard "in and out" I clicked the like button and forgot anything else you said haha
Also, could you do another video on appendix carry, but maybe a little more zoomed in? I don't think we really saw enough to understand.
🤣
When John said "in and out" im sure that was PTSD!!
I'm in the mood for a burger now...
IDK it sure triggered me.
Thanks for the entertaining and informative video. I've always carried OWB 4:30. My aversion to AIWB comes from years of IDPA shooting. Anyone who has shot much IDPA will have heard "Muzzle, muzzle, muzzle". But I'm willing to give it a try. Think I'll carry AIWB for a couple of weeks on an empty chamber and see how it goes. I agree, being able to see the holster before and during the holstering process is a big advantage.
“That is a cold suppressor” OoOo boy you got me 😂 Keep up the good content John. 👍
That cold touch suddenly gave the gun more room...
^^^^hahahahaha lmao
Before watching answer: I sure as hell hope so! Got a 9mm pointed at my bits right now 😂
Proper holster that covers the trigger on a striker fire pistol = ✅
it's not pointed if it's in a holster though correct? xD
It's in a holster, and it is angled in such a way that the path of a bullet is in line with my bits. It is intentionally placed there by me, therefore it is pointed at my bits... by me.... To each their own 🤪
My back is too arched for appendix, even in the days I had six pack abs. Three o'clock with a forward cant works best for me. However when dressed up I sometimes do the ol' Red Reddington and carry small of the back. This option is only practical with an open jacket and owb holster.
Thank you for all your contributions to the gun community.
I may have missed it, but if you use a concealment wedge, it creates a standoff (angles the barrel further away from you body/boys) which adds a margin of safety.
A wing?
You can appendix carry a glock just don’t shoot off your co-
ck.
Just don't shoot off your glock... is that what you ment?
Co- witness???
🤔
Nope. Not at all safe. Remember the Gun Safety Rule, "Never point your firearm at something you are not willing to destroy. "
My question is are you safe carrying a gun?
John my carry firearm is a Taurus G2C 9 mm. Taurus has a thumb safety on the left which I have gotten used to and like. Just takes practice to release the safety as you bring the weapon up.
I absolutely love being a member of Sportsmens guide, when they’re not trying to ass grape the general public on ammo prices! 🇺🇸🗽
Or when they offer you free shipping on your 1st purchase if you join the buyers club and give you a 1 month free trial and then you place your order, get a confirmation AND then immediately send you another email telling you that your CC will automatically be billed $50 for your Club membership at the end of 30 days. Your choice. Cancel your order and club membership or pay the shipping. In my case it was $25 shipping on a 1k case of 9mm 115fmj and with shipping would have made ea round about .50 instead of .27. Also a one time SG purchase. If you plan on buying a lot from SG in a year yea you can save $$$. I do believe it's a yearly thing too.
So don't sign up?
@@2wheeleddemon999 Well it would be nice if they informed you beforehand what the terms are because if they did then many including myself wouldn't sign up. After makes it a problem. It took a bit of doing to get it resolved, step one was canceling the order and step two was canceling the membership. I remember it was on a holiday so I had to get it done before it was shipped and two I'm halfway around the world so there's a 14 hour time difference and three it was at the height of the COVID lockdown and I spent an hour on hold because of short staffing.
Fortunately I was using Skype and their toll free number works. I was up until around midnight before my turn came up, OK and does that answer your question?
@@2wheeleddemon999 It all depends. I’m a yearly member. Been one for six years I believe. Bought thousands of dollars worth of ammo over that time period. They used to have everything under the sun at good prices with free shipping ammo wise. Now I find myself mostly buying military surplus items since ammo’s out of stock everywhere. I’ll keep my membership a bit longer & see if ammo comes back at affordable prices. Otherwise I’ll ditch my membership too.
Drinking game: Take a shot every time John censors himself and motions towards his groin.
Do you wanna end up with alcohol poisoning??? Cause I'm pretty sure that's how it'll happen🤣🤣🤣
Only in this video, or....?
Do NOT do this, you will die.
John Lovell, best of the best class act. Sportsman Guide, screwed me on backorders after being a super loyal customer for years. NOMO FO Me. Love ya John
Awesome stuff! I agree 100% with everything in this video. I’d only add 1 safety tip, for shooters on the range who have less than ideal safety, flimsy leather holsters, or difficulty holstering, organize shot volley to end on an empty gun. Utilize a firing line table to make ready and reholster the firearm “out of the waistband”. It takes way more time, but nothing ruins a range day like a ND into a testicle.
Thanks for the video! I have started switching over to appendix carry. I used to like 4 o clock (I have no ass to shoot off) but I didn't like the fact I wouldn't be able to tell if my shirt got pulled over or if I am imprinting (I am very thin so its harder to conceal in that position). I like appendix carry because it is easier for me to conceal, I can see everything better when holstering or unholstering and if you end up in a physical altercation it would be easier to defend and prevent an unwanted unholstering when it is in front of you rather than behind you.
I feel this is the ideal skinny dude carry position
I had my appendix removed in me teen years so I should be good to go
Best thing about appendix carry is all your “gear” is already in your work space.... no extra reaching or jerkin required.... P.S. that’s a badass hoody !
My muzzle points straight out. It's considered a "short barrel". I call it "the horizontal carry"
John...love the instruction. How do you carry in the summer with shorts and T shirt? Thank you
If you've ever wondered what beard products John uses, go ahead and hit that like button.............
Daddys boy...
men with beards have poop in their beards.
@@screwgle7914 men with hair have poop in their hair.
Is that you Garand???
Ha! Dude you've been watching too many Garand Thumb videos ;)
Johns whole face and body expression when hes about to say “That’s just gay bro” but stops himself was just pure gold.
RUclips: demonetized!!!!
@@danielaramburo7648 Exactly why he doesn’t say it.
I was thinking to myself, ‘What part of the video could this guy possibly be talking about?’
And then I arrived at that part 😂
Dead tru lolol!!!
Good on him, gay ain’t bad
A great video and I agree with your logic here.
Another way to be a little bit safer is to carry a hammer-fired weapon and cover that hammer with the thumb all the way in while holstering. Also, an external safety disconnects the trigger and totally takes it out of the equation. A thumb covering the hammer takes the hammer out of the equation too.
Your mileage may vary and we all have our own degree of what is acceptable and unacceptable to our personal safety when a firearm is pushed inside our pants.
A round can not be fired without the primer being struck by the firing pin or striker. However that eventually is dealt with so that that possibility is made as close to zero as personally comfortable is up to the individual with the firearm stuck inside their pants. You do you -but do it intelligently knowing as much about all the factors as possible before making your own decisions.
First time watching this and I just want to say that you are a very wise guy. Not by what you share but how you communicate. Thank you !
This video made appendix carry much more attractive to me. I may try it in the future. It also made more attractive double-action and decocker DA/SA triggers, with their long and generally heavier trigger pulls. Such triggers are less likely to be pulled negligently, accidentally, or otherwise absent-mindedly or unintentionally. Decocking my DA/SA will help me avoid decocking myself.
Or grip safteys like the XD XDM or S&W EZ have here a benefit too. If your thumb is on the back of the slide while reholster its 100% safe.
@@Gieszkanne That's a great point. I've never appreciated grip safeties, thinking they're a liability if I had to shoot without a good grip on the gun or from an awkward firing position. But they can definitely make reholstering safer, and being passive with practice they're far less of a liability than a manual safety. I think I won't look at grill safeties dismissively anymore. I'd like to try one.
Kel-Tec's next pistol, a 9mm carry gun, has a grip safety that can be toggled on and off with a little switch when the gun is disassembled. The switch locks the grip safety in. I didn't fully appreciate the feature until now. I think it would be good if many more handguns had an optional grip safety. With most guns, a negligent discharge when reholstering is a far greater danger than a grip safety preventing an essential gunshot in a firefight. Most guns aren't even on defensive duty. And any that are being carried in a way that causes concern about the risk of an unintended firing may benefit from a grip safety.
That first picture of a wound was actually a Kydex holster. The one that operators typically shoot themselves with, I believe it's a Blackhawk. Because you break retention with the index finger right over the trigger guard.
I've been appendix carrying going on 3 years, never had a problem or injury. Sometimes when I open carry I'll use the 3 o'clock position with my regular holster looped though my belt. I prefer appendix carry. The main thing is practice, practice.... practice. No matter how you chose to carry.
Appendix works great only sucks if youre kinda fat
I agree with you that its a choice and you need to practice. For work I have to carry 3 o'clock but like the 4 o'clock position when not working.
I carry at about 3:30. Appendix carry isn't allowed for IDPA.
That particular holster looks good.
Fast out and slow in is a good plan.
I run a M1911. I always double check that the external safety is set before trying to holster.
“AppenDIX bro! You’re gonna blow it off.” 🤣
That shit was funny af, when they both started laughing 🤣🤣
Yeah that fucking slayed me😅🤣😂☠
Agreed.
"I don't believe you, let me see."
"Hey bro, it's not that kind of channel."
What about the Travis Bickle forearm carry? He may be crazy but he has an interesting idea.
"Are you talking to mei?!"
Toe carry mp5 lol
Thank you. You have dispelled some fears I had about appendix carry.
This was an interesting video. As one who is Deaf since birth, the first rule of gun ownership is to position your gun in a way that it cannot be taken from you; meaning that your first obligation is to protect your gun at all costs from others . I've tried several different positions and the only position that enabled me to protect my gun and be comfortable (I have a full sized gun) is crossdraw. I'm right handed, so my gun sits on my belt in a paddle holster near my left hip. This position allows me to buckle up easily in a car, sit in a chair comfortably, and gives me a relaxed position to draw my gun out. Italian police use crossdraw, the Indiana Sheriff's carry crossdraw after much testing and research. For me, the crossdraw position beats every other type of carry method. I can defend someone's attempt to take my gun from me easily, with the martial arts training I have. And if you have a large handgun, crossdraw makes life much easier to deal with your gun.
This is why the garter holster is where it’s at. Side benefit is lifting up a little bit of your skirt serves as a good distraction and they never guess you’re going for a weapon. The WTF looks you get practicing at the range are pretty hilarious.
It’s going to be weird but I’ll give it a try.
I’m gonna lose friends though
And possibly my wife... 😩
@@WarriorPoetSociety carry on if it makes you happy it can't be that bad. MK- just be happy. Ultra Lovell its like lost in space Elon wanted to marry me. Today Our baby NASA launches crew Dragon to ISS in the ooda loop. I will always love you. No matter what. The King of UAE holds his daughter hostage until I comeCIA keeps trading me off because you do you all damn day Erdogan wants to play- No way because you just walk away. Well they are going to get it next after McCabe said it was a calling for such a weak excuse. Whatever. You manifest what you desire. If that is not relevant to me 💋 then just be free.💔
@@WarriorPoetSociety I got you, wear a kilt. No one can hate a guy in a kilt.
@@sacajawaea4963 What the...
@@WarriorPoetSociety just think how much your right ball will ty tho
Just ordered the same holster couple days ago excited to get it and try it out
After this video, i bet you are...🤣🤣
@JCrimeCape yeah I got it for g19 and streamlight tlr 7a
@JCrimeCape Yeah I'm sure i will everyone recommends them.
I like pocket carry with a Ruger LCP Max and Sticky Holster. And best to remove the holster before reholstering.
I love your videos, informative lessons, and comedy. Keep doing what you do. Stay vigilant and don’t forget to chill out bros.