I honestly find most of my fun from arma just making my own single player scenarios. I rarely ever play multiplayer much in arma. I have both games and I prefer arma mainly just because I can be creative and make whatever I want to. While squad sometimes feels limiting. But it honestly really depends on the person.
Yah Squad is definitely more limiting than Arma especially in singleplayer seeing as its basically nonexistent in Squad. Squad is good if you want to pick up and play a "mil-sim", but Arma is awesome if you want more depth and freedom. I need to try more Arma singleplayer now that you mention it.
@@Popmandoop yeah, the majority of my hours in arma come from just playing single player and making my own scenarios. Of course it isn't for everyone though. I definitely agree with your video mentioning how squad is far more accessible to most people.
It is a hard work to be able to enjoy arma, personaly I am a single player, because the game is very demanding on resources and I do not stand a chance with other players as i get 30fps at most OFFLINE and countrary to what everyone says it matters, especially if you are approached in a close combat... aside from that the control system is very slugish and counter intuitive, like you sometimes really need to overthink in order to make the simplest infantry movements and the whole keyboard is to be used... I tried multiplayer once and I do not know if I may call MP comunity toxic but, I wasn't satisfied with them, since the game takes a lot of time till you get into action (if you do at all) most of the experience online will be just chitchating to some random guys about things that aren't related to the game at all which anyone can basically do on discord anyways.. and it messes with my focus which is crucial for thinking about strategy, besides if you are a newbie everyone will make sure to give you a burnout because no mistake in the game is tolerable which is paradoxical because you really need to be a pro to never make mistakes in this game.... I think I should try squad out, for me it looks a bit similar to Project Reality BF2 mod but much better, the world is smaller than ARMAs but more vivid and more realistic as I can see.. that matters to me
Play Squad sometimes just for fun, and I’ll play Arma3 for when I have a shit load of time on my hands and am looking for some modded campaign run thru with the boys. The Zeus game mode in Arma 3 is also incredibly fun. Imagine, instead of an AI controlling game scenarios, it’s a person.
I found your channel due to zero hour and now I’ve found myself back here again I’ll be definitely getting arma due to it being £5.99 rn I may as well sub since I’ve come across your channel a couple times U deserve more recognition considering the quality of these videos.
If you want the military simulator experience then arma 3 is the way to go, it offers an insane amount of features and weapons which no other game comes close to.
Great video, man. Good, neutral comparison, and you're right! ArmA 3 isn't for EVERYONE. Flip side of the coin, Squad isn't as in depth as some would like, lending to ArmA's creativity appeal. The "jobs" thing in ArmA 3 Milsim is so true, but tons of folks are looking for that, so both games are cut for folks of a different cloth. Vehicles are a huge point of contention for many players. ArmA 3 vehicles are meant to be force multipliers, as they are in real life. America wins wars because we don't give the enemy a fair fight, which is exactly how vehicles are used in ArmA 3. Squad is much more "balanced", thus enjoyable to new comers that don't want to be super strategic. Hope your channel takes off!
Thank you for your opinion. I have arma 3 and dissapointed its multiplayer lags and down servers. However the MP worked smoothly. Since im big MP fan, I was searching for information about this game, but it was not as good as you shared in this video. Thanks. Enjoyed quick, but meaningful video
I gotta say Arma 3 did so much right. Squad still has a lot missing. Squad has a lot of holes in its' structure, including inability to pick up enemy rifles, and scavenge dead bodies for supplies. In Arma 3, just like Arma 2, you have full ability to change your set up from optics to type of rifle if you kill an enemy loaded with supplies. I had Arma 3 in my library for over 2 years, and only now I started getting into it. Reason was simple: I played Squad, and saw that it's missing core elements. Jumped into Arma 3 today and realized it's (imo) best tactical mil sim ever made Learning curve is crazy, but this is why you should do scenarios/tutorials, before jumping into online servers. Complexity is there, but so is creativity. Also need a beast PC.
@@BadgersDen Yes, and community is toxic. I wrote to developers on Reddit with couple.of suggestions, and got crapped on by every person, where they said "you are an idiot, game is perfect". After suggesting night vision with night maps, and ability to choose optics such as LPVOs, since walking is crazy in this game. Maps are huge. People are very toxic in squad, unlike what is told about Squad's community
@@righteousone8454 no you got crapped on for being a smart ass. Squad is doing fine with the direction its heading lol And the community is chill AF, try asking a question in Arma servers and make people teach you the game I dare you especially those "milsim" guys. I dont know about your "suggestions" but thats reddit for you.
The freedom to make what ever kind of mission i want, including singleplayer and coop in arma outweight squad for me. Also about the graphics, you have remember arma is an older game than squad, Another thing the enviroment in arma is destructible, it's not in squad, for me that makes the enviroment more immersive than in squad.
One thing i really dislike in Arma, i gave to menrion one thing, it's the setting, i hate the futuristic weapons and vehicles. Dlcs and Mods fixes this.
The only problems I have with arma 3 are the graphics and the performance limits, it seems like there’s a fps limiter on and your system(PC/Laptop) is running at full speed trying to reach peak fps but it can’t.
Arma 3 is really heavy on the CPU vs GPU. I got an RX 6600 XT, and according to a FPS calculator i found online, i need a $4500 CPU to avoid "bottlenecks". Not sure how it calculates this though, as it is of course possible to tune the settings a lot.
Arma 3 is a classic. Probably the most hardcore realistic military shooter ever made. The simulation is too overwhelming for most people. We got DayZ from Arma, it’s such a masterpiece itself
i was a full argo player (that time when have player was amazing) and i know arma before i buy squad last year play 1 time with my 970 and left it apart now with an 3060 i came back after the update came out without even known and i just fall in love with game
i just got it for $6 as well and i also got the prairie fire dlc too for an extra 14 bucks. definetly has been on my list for a while too, glad to finally start getting into it
I got Arma 3 on sale from steam with a ton of add ons for $30. I'm very familiar with modding as I've done it with Skyrim and other RPG's. That being said, modding Arma is far easier than it is with any other game I've ever modded (aside from the mods menu in Skyrim). You can set up certain mod loadouts for specific servers. That being said, with the 50 or so mods I have with the base game it takes up about 110GB if space which is hard to swallow for some people. With loading all those mods, I seriously recommend and SSD vs HDD.
Both pros and cons you told about Arma is the reason I play it. It's, like you said, hardcore MilSim. Thats why people in general play it. NO game on earth has the feel, immersion and intensity of a battlefield like Arma. By far not. Armas scale alone is jaw dropping. The dimension of a battle this game puts on is just insanity. I also think that it looks waaaaay better than Squad. Graphics on ultra is boss. Game looks stunning. I have no idea how one can come to the conclusion that Squad is looking better than Arma. The one and only downgrade I have with Arma is its performance. But since it runs on an engine made for simulations its kinda understandable. Simulations almost always eat up your CPU like nothing :D For me its Arma. Squad is too easy. I dont like that kind of gameplay. I like big COOP operations with hundreds of units doing their thing on a battlefield that is 10km² or bigger. Haveing 100+ people playing together in COOP is just pure immersion. All the coordination that is needed, the coms, the calls, the different role everybody has to fullfill and the sheer size of missions make it for me. For me these games are not even comparable. Its two different kinds of games. Like GTA and Skyrim. Both open world but you cant compare them really.
I love this comment! You did a really good job expressing what makes Arma such a unique and one-of-a-kind game. I agree with everything you said 100%, I just prefer Squad since its a lot simpler and I don't really have the time to deal with Arma haha. I also agree that the graphics on Arma are pretty dang solid. I should've done a better job of explaining what you pointed out . Arma can look amazing but it is much more performance hungry. In my experience I can run Squad at higher graphics settings than Arma on my hardware since A3 is such a pain to run. If I had a beast of a PC I think you're right, Arma would look amazing. Thanks for your comment! Definitely gave me some stuff to think about, and a drive to put some more hours into Arma so I can really get to know all of its many ins and outs.
Squad is quite more specific on what it tries to achieve. It's full on PvP action not meant for bots, at least not as an important feature. Both games share about the same skillset on the gunplay itself aside from controls of course and customization. Btw the Arma coordination experiences are only possible if u belong to a clan/milsim group if u are talking about the true highly tactical stuff, same with squad ,there's only so much u can do with random players in public servers regardless of the game. I mean have u seen One life events in Squad from Karmakut or clan matches?
youll be done with squad in a few months,Arma3 has been in the top 50 games played for 7 years. Arma3 has far more to offer than squad,it literally has an editor where u can create ANYTHING you can imagine. This reviewer cares more about what game is "easier" to understand than which one is worth your investment. Iv been a gamer for 30 years,Arma3 hours played DWARFES all other games iv played,combined. Theres a reason for that...and i dont even touch the MP aspect of it which has tonnes to offer.Arma3 is better than squad in almost every way that actually matters
@@Popmandoop and you were too impatient to learn how to play Arma3 or added md after mod and complained about poor performance or got butthurt because a community member said something to hurt your fee fee's.
@@MsFreegaza Honestly I think Arma 3 is a great game. The modding potential is nearly unlimited and it's community has more dedication than any I've ever seen. If I were to make an "factually best" video Arma would have won, but I made this an "In my opinion" video. I think Squad is much more suited to my playstyle, and my life honestly since I don't have enough time to spend on all Arma has to offer with School, Work, and this channel. This video was made to tell people which game I perfered and I did just that. Obviously you have a different opinion, and that's fine. That's what opinions are, but there's no reason to attack or downplay others opinions just because they don't align with your own.
I agree 100%, Arma has a huge learning curve. Who wants to spend yrs trying to get good at a FPS? Squad it is for me & 6 Days in Fallujah in a few months. Great content, follow your passion & it will lead to good things!
I have over 500 hours in arma 3 and I can tell, you don't need a mil-sim unit to have fun. Only a couple of friends on a server or, a server of random on zeus or escape.
Thanks for the input I'm trying to decide which to put my time in. I have both games but can't decide which one I want to play and put the time in to learn. This comment helped a bit
If you want realism go with Arma 3. If you want semi-realism with an arcade/battle royale feel go with Squad. Both are great games but I would give the edge to Arma 3 due to the endless amount of mods/gameplay modes, etc..
What do u mean battle royale? Jump from airplane with parachute.. tlooting weapons and items, then fight againts another squad till 1st? And get legendary skin?
My personal fun from arma is coop zeus, a laid back coop experience with a mainly infantry assault supported by dedicated and experienced players that I've actually gotten to know outside of the game.
I have been playing arma3 for 700hours without any milsim, casual CTI is already fun enough. Also no one will imagine that you can also turn arma into hero shooter with some addaction scripts. Try searching for TTS cloaking script, you can re-create that but with different types of skills you can imagine. You can literally adjust everything you want in arma like health, weapon sway, recoil, character speed if you feel like you want to play arma but make it more like call of duty you can adjust the game to feel more like that. While other games limit you on what you can play. I won’t buy squad not because of my bias but because i still want to sink another 700 hours into arma.
Arma the ultimate sandbox with endless mods like dayz, not only that but by far has the best combined arms gameplay from a squad bike to A10 fight pilot. Arma also has extremely good pve servers that are huge in scale. Squad is better for a less clunky experience, and is by far the easiest to pick up with the added benefit of an entirely mp focus and is good aswell but arma is the ultimate sim especially if you like using vehicles
Nice video! Btw do you think sqaud can run on a gtx 1650, i5 9400f and 8gb ddr4 ram? I Will get a new pc in the future that Will be able to run it but for now this is what i have
I tried Arma III and yeah it's not exactly accessible. If I had friends pushing me to play it I might have kept it, but trying to navigate it solo was daunting... also the campaign is very boring, so even using it as a jump off was a no go.
As someone who was in the military for a very long time. I will not be as a dismount. I was on tanks during my time in the military so I will be on tanks in game.
I got the game, but could not configure my joystick or game controller. No button mapping options at all, just some useless sensitivity sliders. Brand new high end pc, btw. I could manage the infantry, but no way in hell I am going to try flying helicopters or jets with a frackin mouse and keyboard. Probably a buggy copy, just my luck. So screw it, refunded, move on to something else.
@@lonewolf5238 Oh gotcha, yah I havent tried using a Hotas or controller with Squad. Sucks that it didn't work out for you though! That sounds like the best way to pilot the Heli's in this game. I'm pretty sure there is button mapping, but it might not work with Joysticks, and it might not have even been there when you tried haha.
It was a glitchy mess, not just missing button mapping or JS/controller config. Game wouldn't launch at all half the time, then when it did, I'd get a blank screen with audio and subtitles when trying to run Boot Camp. Again, brand new high end pc, no problems with anything else, just this game. I think it was a corrupt download, but Steam support is essentially useless, so refund and forget about it is the only choice left.
over 1000 hours with ARMA which is the only game I have played for the past 3 years and I am still learning new features. Squad is a hell of a lot of fun and a fun shooter but it just cant match the complexity and range of possibilities you have in arma. to Laser guiding your own smart bombs from a targeting pod on your aircraft to setting up unmanned stugna missile turrets and ambushing convoys remotely km's away its just on a level of military satisfaction no other game can match in my opinion. and the firefights and sound design are just mwaah. There are literal hundreds of game modes and ways to play due to DLC's and the enormous steam workshop mods. That being said Squad is a close second in terms of milsims but leaves a lot to be desired and gets boring quickly if you're a long time arma player. Oh and it has Vietnam.. enough said
Big difference: Arma has a lot of single player scenarios, including campaign missions (the most realistic i've seen) or missions mods, apart from the multiplayer. Squad has only multiplayer. Anyway, i love both games. Squad is more like a realistic Battlefield. Arma is more like its unique thing. I would recommend you begin with Squad; it can be addictive. Arma is not for everyone; but is closer to reality.
One thing you didn't mention was that Arma is much more PvE focused than Squad. A big part of arma is doing large scale missions with unique objectives like destroying radio towers and rescuing hostages. I bought Squad but was dissapointed since all the gamemodes were variations of conquest from battlefield and felt way more arcady. I can see why people enjoy it but its just not a the kind of game I was looking for. I think comparing the two games to eachother is a little unfair to both. They have very different experiences
Ill buy both someday but i think ill choose Squad first. Arma has too many DLCs and stuff to be played fully. Aparently you cnat evne drive vehicles without soem DLC i heard?
Arma 3 is great but has aged badly. Playability is...well, different. You have to get used to it. Squad in the other hand is more like a traditional FPS but with more realism. Anyway, they are in different levels. If you want to go hardcore both are great but you'll have to join a community for that, go for Arma 3 if you want the sandbox experience (i've spent 1000s of hours in the editor), also has a great modding community. If you just want to install-and-play experience, then go for Squad.
In my opinion if u want a fun tactical and friendly experience play squad but if you want to get ptsd play arma lmao Don't worry it's a joke i don't really know much about the games I've never played them but have always wanted to cause I'm a battlefield fan I like games that involve teamwork and action
The one thing that I dislike about ArmA is that a normal map, Altis for example, has thousands of houses but none of the houses have furniture, and I believe it is like that because when the game was fiest launched it couldn't have handled all that objects. But I think newer maps like Livonia from the Contact DLC has furniture
In my opinion squad is better in graphics...that would be remaining in Arma...but squad I think it's more limited about content and creating tools as a sandbox like Arma
i really enjoy arma 3 just because of the zeus gamemode, sog praire fire, mods, and the editor i have played squad for only a couple of hours during a free weekend, for some reason i ran into some heavy performance and graphics issues (i could see grainy effect in the distance, i had resolution set to my monitor) when i did and it left a bad taste in my friends mouths i dont know why i had such issues with squad because everyone else online seems to have no issues but i never figured it out because again, free weekend
I own squad and cant say i play it much... Honestly its because people mostly do their own thing and you never know who to shoot and who not to shoot. I just wish it had team markers at all times not just up close, really its way different looking at a PC monitor vs real life. people say it would take away from the realism... Because we all know its very realistic to sit on your ass and click a mouse when your a ground soldier... Really its still just a game. If it had team markers i would be addicted to this game like super mega crack.
If you are more into single player scenarios with cool bots or whatever, get arma. Squad is more realistic and it is a multiplayer for the most part. When starting on either game, arma is quite complicated unlike squad. I personally have more fun with squad and other similar games such as beyond the wire.
Arma 3 is just like Asseto Corsa Competitive of fps. Super realistic, super fun to play but man you need to learn A LOT and play a lot to really enjoy it at its best. (Also, the controls are also pretty confusing but they can be used to)
being better than gun 3 is easy as hell, the sound seems like my cousin with his toy gun .. it's a good idea but they can't make a good "game" without 800 modifications saving it! Operation Flashpoint Cold war crisis damn that if that impressed me and it seems incredible how little weapon has evolved!
Honestly, I think Squad is the better game for its straight-forwardness but Arma is also really good. 10$ Is a really good price for it, if you're willing to take the time to learn it. Keep an eye on Squad as well! They have quite a few sales every once in a while.
Yah I'd say so! I'm running a 1660ti but my brother has a 1660 and a 2600 which is pretty equivalent to a 4790. It'll have to be 1080p and you'll need to tinker with the settings, but it does sound attainable!
Controversial take but other than particle effects where it very much beats Arma, I think with a good Arma 3 map, Arma 3 and Squad are equal in graphics.
Arma 3 > Squad Squads engine doesn’t feel true to scale if that makes sense. I genuinely feel like arma has better graphics. Squad has better visual effects but depth and how natural the controls feel goes to arma for sure.
Uninstall and reinstall it. That did the trick for me. Make sure your connection is solid. Do the tutorial (20 minutes) then go to browse and servers near your should show up. I personally recommend elite as it’s very noob friendly.
I haven't personally played post scriptum but I have heard that they're very similar. I made Squad guide a bit ago, maybe check that out and see if you already know it all! I feel like that would be a solid indicator.
very nice video, really enjoyed it and yeah, i was about to buy squad but then i decided to buy arma instead because its cheaper and i really like sandbox games and i like milsim, i really enjoy the game even without mods, you gained a sub btw!, i hope you reach 1 million someday! good luck on your channel!
Gotcha, that's what makes Arma so cool honestly, it can be whatever you make it be. So I just tried to compare the base game separate of modifications for this video. With that being said I totally agree that Arma is the better game if you want to tailor your experience to exactly what you want.
I honestly find most of my fun from arma just making my own single player scenarios. I rarely ever play multiplayer much in arma. I have both games and I prefer arma mainly just because I can be creative and make whatever I want to. While squad sometimes feels limiting. But it honestly really depends on the person.
Yah Squad is definitely more limiting than Arma especially in singleplayer seeing as its basically nonexistent in Squad. Squad is good if you want to pick up and play a "mil-sim", but Arma is awesome if you want more depth and freedom. I need to try more Arma singleplayer now that you mention it.
@@Popmandoop yeah, the majority of my hours in arma come from just playing single player and making my own scenarios. Of course it isn't for everyone though. I definitely agree with your video mentioning how squad is far more accessible to most people.
Nice. Bought it on sale last weekend. I went straight to the editor. I have 10 hours of Eden to my 1 play through of just the Prologue.
It is a hard work to be able to enjoy arma, personaly I am a single player, because the game is very demanding on resources and I do not stand a chance with other players as i get 30fps at most OFFLINE and countrary to what everyone says it matters, especially if you are approached in a close combat... aside from that the control system is very slugish and counter intuitive, like you sometimes really need to overthink in order to make the simplest infantry movements and the whole keyboard is to be used... I tried multiplayer once and I do not know if I may call MP comunity toxic but, I wasn't satisfied with them, since the game takes a lot of time till you get into action (if you do at all) most of the experience online will be just chitchating to some random guys about things that aren't related to the game at all which anyone can basically do on discord anyways.. and it messes with my focus which is crucial for thinking about strategy, besides if you are a newbie everyone will make sure to give you a burnout because no mistake in the game is tolerable which is paradoxical because you really need to be a pro to never make mistakes in this game.... I think I should try squad out, for me it looks a bit similar to Project Reality BF2 mod but much better, the world is smaller than ARMAs but more vivid and more realistic as I can see.. that matters to me
Arma 3 is fun if you have friends you can play with in multiplayer and play with only them in COOP using voice ip...
Play Squad sometimes just for fun, and I’ll play Arma3 for when I have a shit load of time on my hands and am looking for some modded campaign run thru with the boys. The Zeus game mode in Arma 3 is also incredibly fun. Imagine, instead of an AI controlling game scenarios, it’s a person.
Yes! This is the right balance for these games! (And yes Zeus is awesome!)
I was playing arma 3 fo ryears and I just realized that squad was the game I was looking for the entire time, thanks
I like to think that Arma 3 and Squad are in the same universe, different wars in different regions, same planet
Very detailed, very good explained. You'll grow quick, good luck.
Thanks! Im starting to check on DayZ:SA. Super fun and up my alley! I'll make a video about it soon!
short and sweet, three years later you have influenced my decision greatly! cheers to a new revolution of "Mil-Sim"
I found your channel due to zero hour and now I’ve found myself back here again I’ll be definitely getting arma due to it being £5.99 rn
I may as well sub since I’ve come across your channel a couple times U deserve more recognition considering the quality of these videos.
I bought it and so far I am enjoying it, its confusing at first but after a few hours you have a basic knowledge of what your're doing.
If you want the military simulator experience then arma 3 is the way to go, it offers an insane amount of features and weapons which no other game comes close to.
Soooo what the video said right?
Did you say this as veteran?
5:06 yeah, arma is running on an ancient engine which does not recognize such modern perversions as "multicore CPUs" and "GPUs"
Great video, man. Good, neutral comparison, and you're right! ArmA 3 isn't for EVERYONE. Flip side of the coin, Squad isn't as in depth as some would like, lending to ArmA's creativity appeal. The "jobs" thing in ArmA 3 Milsim is so true, but tons of folks are looking for that, so both games are cut for folks of a different cloth.
Vehicles are a huge point of contention for many players. ArmA 3 vehicles are meant to be force multipliers, as they are in real life. America wins wars because we don't give the enemy a fair fight, which is exactly how vehicles are used in ArmA 3. Squad is much more "balanced", thus enjoyable to new comers that don't want to be super strategic.
Hope your channel takes off!
Hey thanks! Everything you said is 100% spot on. They really are different games made for different people even if they seem similar from the outside.
Arma3 the best my opinion
America doesn't really win wars tho
America wins wars 😂copium
Thank you for your opinion. I have arma 3 and dissapointed its multiplayer lags and down servers. However the MP worked smoothly. Since im big MP fan, I was searching for information about this game, but it was not as good as you shared in this video. Thanks. Enjoyed quick, but meaningful video
Glad it helped you out!
Picking squads up soon. Your vid helped me make up my mind
Glad to be of service!
Hey! I think you have a lot of potential to grow a lot!
Thank you! I hope so!
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@@arkan7rb Dude, I'm pretty sure it was just a random compliment
@@arkan7rb that’s what I was gonna say
@@kaideos7558 dude
I gotta say Arma 3 did so much right. Squad still has a lot missing. Squad has a lot of holes in its' structure, including inability to pick up enemy rifles, and scavenge dead bodies for supplies.
In Arma 3, just like Arma 2, you have full ability to change your set up from optics to type of rifle if you kill an enemy loaded with supplies.
I had Arma 3 in my library for over 2 years, and only now I started getting into it. Reason was simple: I played Squad, and saw that it's missing core elements.
Jumped into Arma 3 today and realized it's (imo) best tactical mil sim ever made
Learning curve is crazy, but this is why you should do scenarios/tutorials, before jumping into online servers.
Complexity is there, but so is creativity. Also need a beast PC.
Warlord is good.
It would be nice if Squad would let us pick up enemy rifles or scavenge their bodies but it'll never happen imo
@@BadgersDen Yes, and community is toxic. I wrote to developers on Reddit with couple.of suggestions, and got crapped on by every person, where they said "you are an idiot, game is perfect". After suggesting night vision with night maps, and ability to choose optics such as LPVOs, since walking is crazy in this game. Maps are huge.
People are very toxic in squad, unlike what is told about Squad's community
@@righteousone8454 no you got crapped on for being a smart ass. Squad is doing fine with the direction its heading lol And the community is chill AF, try asking a question in Arma servers and make people teach you the game I dare you especially those "milsim" guys. I dont know about your "suggestions" but thats reddit for you.
@@righteousone8454 i personally haven’t found any toxic people playing the game
The freedom to make what ever kind of mission i want, including singleplayer and coop in arma outweight squad for me. Also about the graphics, you have remember arma is an older game than squad, Another thing the enviroment in arma is destructible, it's not in squad, for me that makes the enviroment more immersive than in squad.
One thing i really dislike in Arma, i gave to menrion one thing, it's the setting, i hate the futuristic weapons and vehicles. Dlcs and Mods fixes this.
@@sixten3000 Man you're on point... futuristic armaments turned me off for Arma 3 vanilla. Arma's 2 for example had an awesome realistic setting
@@AbdoZaInsert Futuristic? 95% of the guns and vehicles are based on actual real life counterparts. It's not the 1990s anymore.
The only problems I have with arma 3 are the graphics and the performance limits, it seems like there’s a fps limiter on and your system(PC/Laptop) is running at full speed trying to reach peak fps but it can’t.
Arma 3 is really heavy on the CPU vs GPU. I got an RX 6600 XT, and according to a FPS calculator i found online, i need a $4500 CPU to avoid "bottlenecks". Not sure how it calculates this though, as it is of course possible to tune the settings a lot.
a decade old game, 10700k and a 3070 runs it at 150 fps
not as much a fps limiter as the ancient engine being unable to properly use multicore cpu and gpu
I love Arma but my biggest issue with it is sometimes it feels like you need to learn to fix an engine just to drive a car
Arma 3 is a classic. Probably the most hardcore realistic military shooter ever made. The simulation is too overwhelming for most people. We got DayZ from Arma, it’s such a masterpiece itself
thinking of getting into Arma because of dayz is there crafting in arma as well?
@@naytbreeze 8 months late but no, not unless you play with a mod that adds it.
i was a full argo player (that time when have player was amazing) and i know arma before i buy squad last year play 1 time with my 970 and left it apart now with an 3060 i came back after the update came out without even known and i just fall in love with game
Only 500 subs. Thats sad, you should have way more, your content is so good.
Thanks! I'm glad you like the channel! Hopefully as I get back to posting we can see even more growth and grow an even bigger community!
I got ARMA 3 for $6 on its anniversary on Steam. It was also on my wishlist for sometime so i didn't waste a second.
i just got it for $6 as well and i also got the prairie fire dlc too for an extra 14 bucks. definetly has been on my list for a while too, glad to finally start getting into it
Pick up and play was all I needed to hear...thank you
....Squad. *Groundbranch is incredible too*
I got Arma 3 on sale from steam with a ton of add ons for $30. I'm very familiar with modding as I've done it with Skyrim and other RPG's. That being said, modding Arma is far easier than it is with any other game I've ever modded (aside from the mods menu in Skyrim). You can set up certain mod loadouts for specific servers. That being said, with the 50 or so mods I have with the base game it takes up about 110GB if space which is hard to swallow for some people. With loading all those mods, I seriously recommend and SSD vs HDD.
"The training is too much"
I don't think milsim is for you
You've got to be very committed
You NAILED IT for me. The configs are over the top. It’s ridiculous. Great video!
Such a well produced video bro you deserve tons of more subs
Another one of those underrated channels
Thanks! I think I still have a lot of room to improve, but I'm glad you're liking the content so far!
Perfect length, thank you for being thoughtful about that.
Both pros and cons you told about Arma is the reason I play it. It's, like you said, hardcore MilSim. Thats why people in general play it. NO game on earth has the feel, immersion and intensity of a battlefield like Arma. By far not. Armas scale alone is jaw dropping. The dimension of a battle this game puts on is just insanity.
I also think that it looks waaaaay better than Squad. Graphics on ultra is boss. Game looks stunning. I have no idea how one can come to the conclusion that Squad is looking better than Arma.
The one and only downgrade I have with Arma is its performance. But since it runs on an engine made for simulations its kinda understandable. Simulations almost always eat up your CPU like nothing :D
For me its Arma. Squad is too easy. I dont like that kind of gameplay. I like big COOP operations with hundreds of units doing their thing on a battlefield that is 10km² or bigger. Haveing 100+ people playing together in COOP is just pure immersion. All the coordination that is needed, the coms, the calls, the different role everybody has to fullfill and the sheer size of missions make it for me.
For me these games are not even comparable. Its two different kinds of games. Like GTA and Skyrim. Both open world but you cant compare them really.
I love this comment! You did a really good job expressing what makes Arma such a unique and one-of-a-kind game. I agree with everything you said 100%, I just prefer Squad since its a lot simpler and I don't really have the time to deal with Arma haha.
I also agree that the graphics on Arma are pretty dang solid. I should've done a better job of explaining what you pointed out . Arma can look amazing but it is much more performance hungry. In my experience I can run Squad at higher graphics settings than Arma on my hardware since A3 is such a pain to run. If I had a beast of a PC I think you're right, Arma would look amazing.
Thanks for your comment! Definitely gave me some stuff to think about, and a drive to put some more hours into Arma so I can really get to know all of its many ins and outs.
Squad is quite more specific on what it tries to achieve. It's full on PvP action not meant for bots, at least not as an important feature. Both games share about the same skillset on the gunplay itself aside from controls of course and customization. Btw the Arma coordination experiences are only possible if u belong to a clan/milsim group if u are talking about the true highly tactical stuff, same with squad ,there's only so much u can do with random players in public servers regardless of the game. I mean have u seen One life events in Squad from Karmakut or clan matches?
I bought Arma but I had no idea what to do or where to go. Probably better I stick to squad :(
@@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594 yikes, maybe joining a realism clan would be a great idea. Do some more research on tutorials overall.
@Ruska lol did i say it was easier?? I was actually defending squad from the first comment wtf. Read again
I agree, right balance of info/video and your opinions and explanations. i knew 0 about either now want both!;)
you should remake this video every couple of years
I'd love another. All I have is he'll let loose and want s modem one but I'm being picky cuz I don't want to get shafted
Thank you so much, I was deciding between arma and squad. You made me know which to buy.☺️☺️☺️
I'm glad it helped! I know I was in a similar position a few years ago
youll be done with squad in a few months,Arma3 has been in the top 50 games played for 7 years. Arma3 has far more to offer than squad,it literally has an editor where u can create ANYTHING you can imagine. This reviewer cares more about what game is "easier" to understand than which one is worth your investment. Iv been a gamer for 30 years,Arma3 hours played DWARFES all other games iv played,combined. Theres a reason for that...and i dont even touch the MP aspect of it which has tonnes to offer.Arma3 is better than squad in almost every way that actually matters
@@Popmandoop and you were too impatient to learn how to play Arma3 or added md after mod and complained about poor performance or got butthurt because a community member said something to hurt your fee fee's.
@@MsFreegaza yes I love arma but oh my fucking god it was so hard to get into. The majority isn’t up for spending so much time in a game.
@@MsFreegaza Honestly I think Arma 3 is a great game. The modding potential is nearly unlimited and it's community has more dedication than any I've ever seen. If I were to make an "factually best" video Arma would have won, but I made this an "In my opinion" video. I think Squad is much more suited to my playstyle, and my life honestly since I don't have enough time to spend on all Arma has to offer with School, Work, and this channel. This video was made to tell people which game I perfered and I did just that. Obviously you have a different opinion, and that's fine. That's what opinions are, but there's no reason to attack or downplay others opinions just because they don't align with your own.
you're a cool dude. thanks for the review
I think you're a pretty cool dude too! Thanks for the comment!
arma 3 wth ace3 mod. its by far the most realistic war game. but squad its very good too.
I haven't tried that mod yet. Sounds like it's worth a look! Thanks!
@@Popmandoop i love arma because its hard and challengin , altough time consuming
I couldn't make a decision, so I bought both and now I have 200+ hours on both. 10/10 would buy both.
I agree 100%, Arma has a huge learning curve. Who wants to spend yrs trying to get good at a FPS? Squad it is for me & 6 Days in Fallujah in a few months.
Great content, follow your passion & it will lead to good things!
If it takes you years to learn Arma then I’m afraid you have some severe learning disabilities
Love your channel dude! I’m just getting a gaming computer and I was trying to pick between Arma and squad. This helped a lot!
Thanks! I felt the exact same way, that's why I made the video!
I have over 500 hours in arma 3 and I can tell, you don't need a mil-sim unit to have fun. Only a couple of friends on a server or, a server of random on zeus or escape.
Thanks for the input I'm trying to decide which to put my time in. I have both games but can't decide which one I want to play and put the time in to learn. This comment helped a bit
If you want realism go with Arma 3. If you want semi-realism with an arcade/battle royale feel go with Squad. Both are great games but I would give the edge to Arma 3 due to the endless amount of mods/gameplay modes, etc..
What do u mean battle royale? Jump from airplane with parachute.. tlooting weapons and items, then fight againts another squad till 1st? And get legendary skin?
Good stuff man. Keep at it
Thanks! Will do and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you a lot thank you for helping pepole (even tho its just find a game am so happy that you did!!)
just subbed! your videos are high quality and you could grow immensly!
My personal fun from arma is coop zeus, a laid back coop experience with a mainly infantry assault supported by dedicated and experienced players that I've actually gotten to know outside of the game.
I have been playing arma3 for 700hours without any milsim, casual CTI is already fun enough. Also no one will imagine that you can also turn arma into hero shooter with some addaction scripts. Try searching for TTS cloaking script, you can re-create that but with different types of skills you can imagine.
You can literally adjust everything you want in arma like health, weapon sway, recoil, character speed if you feel like you want to play arma but make it more like call of duty you can adjust the game to feel more like that. While other games limit you on what you can play. I won’t buy squad not because of my bias but because i still want to sink another 700 hours into arma.
Such good production, keep it up :)
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Arma the ultimate sandbox with endless mods like dayz, not only that but by far has the best combined arms gameplay from a squad bike to A10 fight pilot. Arma also has extremely good pve servers that are huge in scale. Squad is better for a less clunky experience, and is by far the easiest to pick up with the added benefit of an entirely mp focus and is good aswell but arma is the ultimate sim especially if you like using vehicles
Nice video! Btw do you think sqaud can run on a gtx 1650, i5 9400f and 8gb ddr4 ram? I Will get a new pc in the future that Will be able to run it but for now this is what i have
I hope when Arma IV comes the graphics question to be solved
your really underrated for your channel size keep the hard work up!
Thanks! I appreciate it. It's a grind but we're still growin!
@@Popmandoop no worries and yeah i bet lol
I tried Arma III and yeah it's not exactly accessible. If I had friends pushing me to play it I might have kept it, but trying to navigate it solo was daunting... also the campaign is very boring, so even using it as a jump off was a no go.
thing i hate about arma 3 is you have to buy access to snipers, helicopters, and planes
Not a problem if you're not broke. Get your money up
As someone who was in the military for a very long time. I will not be as a dismount. I was on tanks during my time in the military so I will be on tanks in game.
Oh that's pretty cool! Good thing both games have really fun vehicle play. You'll have to let me know how accurate they are!
i appreciate rust getting a shoutout
If Squad had good single player capability, I would've chosen it. But it doesn't, so I didn't.
For sure. That's one thing I didn't do a good job covering. Arma has a huge single and multiplayer community, but Squad has only multiplayer.
I got the game, but could not configure my joystick or game controller. No button mapping options at all, just some useless sensitivity sliders. Brand new high end pc, btw. I could manage the infantry, but no way in hell I am going to try flying helicopters or jets with a frackin mouse and keyboard. Probably a buggy copy, just my luck. So screw it, refunded, move on to something else.
@@lonewolf5238 Oh gotcha, yah I havent tried using a Hotas or controller with Squad. Sucks that it didn't work out for you though! That sounds like the best way to pilot the Heli's in this game. I'm pretty sure there is button mapping, but it might not work with Joysticks, and it might not have even been there when you tried haha.
It was a glitchy mess, not just missing button mapping or JS/controller config. Game wouldn't launch at all half the time, then when it did, I'd get a blank screen with audio and subtitles when trying to run Boot Camp. Again, brand new high end pc, no problems with anything else, just this game. I think it was a corrupt download, but Steam support is essentially useless, so refund and forget about it is the only choice left.
Ground branch , Zero hour cuz i like more squad tactics how a big scale army half sim
Awesome! I have ground branch and I just picked up Zero Hour! Great games if CQB is more your thing! Same with the ISMC mod for insurgency sandstorm!
over 1000 hours with ARMA which is the only game I have played for the past 3 years and I am still learning new features. Squad is a hell of a lot of fun and a fun shooter but it just cant match the complexity and range of possibilities you have in arma. to Laser guiding your own smart bombs from a targeting pod on your aircraft to setting up unmanned stugna missile turrets and ambushing convoys remotely km's away its just on a level of military satisfaction no other game can match in my opinion. and the firefights and sound design are just mwaah. There are literal hundreds of game modes and ways to play due to DLC's and the enormous steam workshop mods. That being said Squad is a close second in terms of milsims but leaves a lot to be desired and gets boring quickly if you're a long time arma player. Oh and it has Vietnam.. enough said
Big difference: Arma has a lot of single player scenarios, including campaign missions (the most realistic i've seen) or missions mods, apart from the multiplayer. Squad has only multiplayer. Anyway, i love both games. Squad is more like a realistic Battlefield. Arma is more like its unique thing. I would recommend you begin with Squad; it can be addictive. Arma is not for everyone; but is closer to reality.
Just bought squad and I'm so excited I am worried though that my potato PC won't play it.
Poor boy chronicles.
Thanks, very helpful
So a quick recap, Arma 3 needs nada pc to run at 120fps, squad needs a mid budget gaming pc and it runs perfectly with about 60-120 fps
One thing you didn't mention was that Arma is much more PvE focused than Squad. A big part of arma is doing large scale missions with unique objectives like destroying radio towers and rescuing hostages. I bought Squad but was dissapointed since all the gamemodes were variations of conquest from battlefield and felt way more arcady. I can see why people enjoy it but its just not a the kind of game I was looking for. I think comparing the two games to eachother is a little unfair to both. They have very different experiences
Ill buy both someday but i think ill choose Squad first. Arma has too many DLCs and stuff to be played fully. Aparently you cnat evne drive vehicles without soem DLC i heard?
Yeah Arma is definitely the next step up! and yes you cant use the dlc vehicles unless you have the dlc, but I think you can still be a passenger.
yeah arma 3 has dlcs and all that but theirs a big modding community that pretty much has every mod you probably like
Can wait to see arma 4 on the new engine 🙏
Arma 3 is great but has aged badly. Playability is...well, different. You have to get used to it. Squad in the other hand is more like a traditional FPS but with more realism. Anyway, they are in different levels. If you want to go hardcore both are great but you'll have to join a community for that, go for Arma 3 if you want the sandbox experience (i've spent 1000s of hours in the editor), also has a great modding community. If you just want to install-and-play experience, then go for Squad.
In my opinion if u want a fun tactical and friendly experience play squad but if you want to get ptsd play arma lmao
Don't worry it's a joke i don't really know much about the games I've never played them but have always wanted to cause I'm a battlefield fan I like games that involve teamwork and action
so your saying arma is realistic than?
The one thing that I dislike about ArmA is that a normal map, Altis for example, has thousands of houses but none of the houses have furniture, and I believe it is like that because when the game was fiest launched it couldn't have handled all that objects. But I think newer maps like Livonia from the Contact DLC has furniture
Third world countries don't have furniture they sit on the floor.
Whichever one is the furthest away from COD is the one I wanna play.
Do you think the game will run on my Laptop where I have an GTX 1650, 8 GB Ram and Intel Core I5-10300H CPU 2.50 GHz
In my opinion squad is better in graphics...that would be remaining in Arma...but squad I think it's more limited about content and creating tools as a sandbox like Arma
I have both, but Squad all day for me.
i really enjoy arma 3 just because of the zeus gamemode, sog praire fire, mods, and the editor
i have played squad for only a couple of hours during a free weekend, for some reason i ran into some heavy performance and graphics issues (i could see grainy effect in the distance, i had resolution set to my monitor) when i did and it left a bad taste in my friends mouths
i dont know why i had such issues with squad because everyone else online seems to have no issues but i never figured it out because again, free weekend
I own squad and cant say i play it much... Honestly its because people mostly do their own thing and you never know who to shoot and who not to shoot. I just wish it had team markers at all times not just up close, really its way different looking at a PC monitor vs real life. people say it would take away from the realism... Because we all know its very realistic to sit on your ass and click a mouse when your a ground soldier... Really its still just a game. If it had team markers i would be addicted to this game like super mega crack.
4gb 1050ti, 16gb ram, i5-8400 1080p. Can I play Squad in stable, any good fps?
Fyi. R7 4000 series + RTX 2060 , I can get more than 60 fps at low settings, 40 fps when team fight
If you are more into single player scenarios with cool bots or whatever, get arma. Squad is more realistic and it is a multiplayer for the most part. When starting on either game, arma is quite complicated unlike squad. I personally have more fun with squad and other similar games such as beyond the wire.
i think squad is just for fun and arma is for being all serious and profesionall
Arma 3 is just like Asseto Corsa Competitive of fps. Super realistic, super fun to play but man you need to learn A LOT and play a lot to really enjoy it at its best. (Also, the controls are also pretty confusing but they can be used to)
being better than gun 3 is easy as hell, the sound seems like my cousin with his toy gun .. it's a good idea but they can't make a good "game" without 800 modifications saving it!
Operation Flashpoint Cold war crisis damn that if that impressed me and it seems incredible how little weapon has evolved!
God I want squad now but arma is 10 dollars on sale right now
Same
Honestly, I think Squad is the better game for its straight-forwardness but Arma is also really good. 10$ Is a really good price for it, if you're willing to take the time to learn it. Keep an eye on Squad as well! They have quite a few sales every once in a while.
@「 Deadpoppin 」 you cant refund arma after 2 hours
I'm running 192 mods right now in Arma 3... at the same time.
nice video, cheers
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
I wonder is gtx 1650 6gb and intel i7 4790, ssd spec. Enough for squad good ( 60 or more ) fps rates?
Yah I'd say so! I'm running a 1660ti but my brother has a 1660 and a 2600 which is pretty equivalent to a 4790. It'll have to be 1080p and you'll need to tinker with the settings, but it does sound attainable!
just get both
After putting 300 hours into squad I've decided to switch to arma3 to get more milsim experience. Squad is too casual for me
That's a good point. I feel like Arma is the natural next step. I'm starting to get there myself.
Controversial take but other than particle effects where it very much beats Arma, I think with a good Arma 3 map, Arma 3 and Squad are equal in graphics.
i only bought arma because it was 8$ which is a steal
100% Arma 3 for 8 bucks is more of a robbery Lol!
Holy sh ur underrated
Glad some people think so! I still can't believe I got past 100 subs! Guess we're all our own worst critics though.
It just depends on what you're looking for
100%
Arma 3 > Squad
Squads engine doesn’t feel true to scale if that makes sense. I genuinely feel like arma has better graphics. Squad has better visual effects but depth and how natural the controls feel goes to arma for sure.
I couldn’t decide so I bought both
which one do you prefer more
Opinion:
Buy both, both are awesome in their own way
id probably buy which is the cheapest
I can’t play Squad. I’ve tried every single solution that has been posted anywhere, but I still have zero servers showing up in the server browser.
Uninstall and reinstall it. That did the trick for me. Make sure your connection is solid. Do the tutorial (20 minutes) then go to browse and servers near your should show up. I personally recommend elite as it’s very noob friendly.
I have over 400 hours in Post Scriptum can I just jump into Squad or is it that different?
I haven't personally played post scriptum but I have heard that they're very similar. I made Squad guide a bit ago, maybe check that out and see if you already know it all! I feel like that would be a solid indicator.
Yeah its similar. Some different mechanics though
Squad is no slouch and is still very complex. Especially compared to Hell let loose.
very nice video, really enjoyed it and yeah, i was about to buy squad but then i decided to buy arma instead because its cheaper and i really like sandbox games and i like milsim, i really enjoy the game even without mods, you gained a sub btw!, i hope you reach 1 million someday! good luck on your channel!
You said your specs were in the description... But I looked and couldn't find them :(
You're totally right! I'll put them in right now. For the time being I have:
Ryzen 7 3800x
1660ti EVGA Dual Fan
16gb DDR4 RAM
and a 500gb ssd
This RUclipsr looks so familiar but I can’t put a name to who
I play arma and squad,but squad have weird maps,i will pick the arma3
Liked the video
But disagree with immersion part.
Arma is more complex but that makes it More immersive (when done right)
Gotcha, that's what makes Arma so cool honestly, it can be whatever you make it be. So I just tried to compare the base game separate of modifications for this video. With that being said I totally agree that Arma is the better game if you want to tailor your experience to exactly what you want.