Seeing those castle nuts and cotter keys, it takes me back 50 years, when I was under my '23 T Truck, adjusting the rods. Good times with my Dad. Boy do I miss him.
I'm glad you heard me when I was standing there behind you and whispered, " don't forget to oil that side of the crank." Nice to watch as always ROADKING.
For those who maybe working on an old engine and are worried about breaking fragile or impossible to find rings, warm them up in boiling water . They will increase in diametrer but the cast iron is easier to bend slightly when fitting them to a piston.
Are there no washers or spacers to control crankshaft end play. Seemed excessive. Or does it not matter on these old engines. Would there be any benefit to centering the crank and tightening up that end play with a couple of brass washers?
People screamin' at their computer ....Oil that Crankshaft !!!...In the old race car days they used to paint the block in the lifter valley with that rustoleum primer color paint...It made it slicker so the oil would run off quicker and get back on the crankshaft
Juiceinmybox 203 they said a while back they will work on it in the winter. I'm hoping to see some videos of it soon too the curiosity of its killing me😂
Hi, The impressions behind the rings may have been done to increase the diameter of the piston ring and to increase the pressure against the cylinder wall to help the rings to seal. the lower ring get less pressure from the gasses in the combustion chamber, and wil not have a great seal. but if the upper ring gets stuck or leaks the lower rings wil do the job.
American Hammered Piston Ring, later acquired by Koppers had a process that hammered the back side of piston rings in a pattern intended to strengthen the curve to keep it shaped right around the piston after the ring was stretched to fit onto the piston, The markings may be from that process.
Robert Rudolph do you know anything about the swail or lip on the piston if it controls air flow or helps atamize fuel or direct flow im baffled and interested?
It helps supply the mixture flow for best combustion, and to avoid intake contamination with exhaust. Two strokes, particularly those that do not use rotary or reed valves are a large number of compromises - the swail is one that worked better than anyone could anticipate,
Robert Rudolph hey thanx alot its always neat to learn about engin technologys that are outdated or as some call it dinosaur tech Ive found that in most cases the oldies are usually the best !
Nice work, especially fixing that ring groove. First time I have seen cotter keys on conn rod nuts. Paint looks very good on the assembly. Liked and have a good week!
I wondered about the order of the rings. Aren't you afraid of breaking the ring by taking them off? Today I just lost a gasket into a rewind assembly. Had to take it all apart get it out. I was tempted to leave it but I don't work that way. Enuff o dis!!
Thanks Mate!! We just bought one, we'll be all set for the next build!! Should have bought it years ago, especially since they are so cheap!! Cheers!!☺
Tomorrow, I have to change, passenger-side half shaft, both brake pads and rotors on the front, and change oil and ECVT oil. Should be fun. Oh, 2008 Altima. I'd MUCH rather be working with Mike, Everett, and the rest of the gang. steve
cut the bottom off of a bottle and stick the piston inside then slide the bottle inside the crank case, so the piston is propped up and won't bang around while you work on the flywheel and kicker THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS
Hey Roadking, I watch your videos and like them a lot. Keep them coming. I have a chance to buy a model 93 may tag looks complete for $ 175.00. Is that a good price? After watching your videos I want to restore one. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I wonder how many people started to type messages that you hadn't oiled the crank and then had to stop when you went back and did it? All that's important in that you did remember. I was taught that you can never use too much oil when resembling an engine but I know somebody who took that to an extreme, there was oil everywhere lol.
aserta I'm not trying to force it. I'm just extremely curious. I'm an 18 year old who enjoys what he does and thinks the custom engines are cool. If he doesn't want to finish a project it's cool it's his time and money he can do what he wants.
Everett, later 2 stroke pistons had pins in the ring lands to keep the ends of the rings from getting in the ports (My Yamaha RD-400 comes to mind.) How did Maytag address this? I can imagine an engine running full out, doing Grandma's laundry, and the end of a ring catches the port, and parts go FLYING! The "fertilizer" would hit the air handler! steve
OH, my TINY bicycle motor has the same pins. (2 stroke 66 CC, and has been carting MY fat posterior, for over 3 years now.) (Only 2 pins, and 2 rings. Made in China.) steve
I would imagine each Engine Manufacturer would be different, some might still be doing it!! I've seen them on engines I've worked on from the late fifties!!☺
I remember when they used to cost very little as well. Now, big name brands are selling them for ~20 ~30 dollars or something. I mean, what are we paying, for the item, or the brand? And some will say, better quality, bla bla, well, not really. It's a very simple process, it's so damned simple actually, that i bought a file cutting machine, and i'm reusing old Nicholson files to make new ones. Sure, hardening, tempering, the processes aren't in everyone's hands, but at no part in the process, except the initial investment, did i ever reach ~30 dollar brand name.
The dots are most likely there for two reasons, one, to identify where each ring sits (as you correctly deduced), and two, based on how the spread is made (not the tighter pattern per ring, rather in relation to the gap) to stop them from spinning once they have tightened inside the bore. That's my belief. Grandpa used to do it on new rings too. He had this three tipped punch that was slightly canted ,(no idea if it was bought or made, can't find it anymore) that he'd align the holes and give them a gentle, wack. Just enough to sink in the sharp tips and displace some metal.
Seeing those castle nuts and cotter keys, it takes me back 50 years, when I was under my '23 T Truck, adjusting the rods. Good times with my Dad. Boy do I miss him.
I can't speak for everyone, but I don't mind seeing the whole process. Don't worry about boring us.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Great videos
I'm glad you heard me when I was standing there behind you and whispered, " don't forget to oil that side of the crank."
Nice to watch as always ROADKING.
Thanks for having my back Mate!!☺
"Uh oh, he forgot to lube those two bush... Whew!" :-) Enjoying the progress. Fascinating how simple these old engines were...
"Slick as snot"... such a way with words, RK!
That piston sure is a nice looking part. It is amazing what craftsmanship could do, even in the face of modern machining equipment.
There's just something about watching a reassembly with like-new parts. Thanks, Roadking!!
Ain't that the truth, alot more fun than dealing with old worn out crap too!!☺
Nice job, I like that you use oil and not some fancy assembly lube. On a 2 stroke, fancy additives = fancy spark plug deposits and early fouling.
Enjoyed the video. We used to call the paint you used inside the block, "Ruddy Brown Primer," at least the Krylon brand.
LOL I think I would have edited out that part where you forgot the oil! Thanks for the entertainment.
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
It's coming together nicely...great work!
Thanks Bud!!☺
For those who maybe working on an old engine and are worried about breaking fragile or impossible to find rings, warm them up in boiling water . They will increase in diametrer but the cast iron is easier to bend slightly when fitting them to a piston.
Are there no washers or spacers to control crankshaft end play. Seemed excessive. Or does it not matter on these old engines. Would there be any benefit to centering the crank and tightening up that end play with a couple of brass washers?
People screamin' at their computer ....Oil that Crankshaft !!!...In the old race car days they used to paint the block in the lifter valley with that rustoleum primer color paint...It made it slicker so the oil would run off quicker and get back on the crankshaft
Looking good! Mike would have reminded you about the oil.
Thanks Mate!! Yeah he wouldn't let that slide!!☺
roadking where's the radial engine? can we see that again
I have been wondering about that too. Where's Mike??
Juiceinmybox 203 they said a while back they will work on it in the winter. I'm hoping to see some videos of it soon too the curiosity of its killing me😂
Hi, The impressions behind the rings may have been done to increase the diameter of the piston ring and to increase the pressure against the cylinder wall to help the rings to seal. the lower ring get less pressure from the gasses in the combustion chamber, and wil not have a great seal. but if the upper ring gets stuck or leaks the lower rings wil do the job.
You should definitely use it to power something! The one I just got is going underneath a small workbench to drive a power hacksaw and grinder
American Hammered Piston Ring, later acquired by Koppers had a process that hammered the back side of piston rings in a pattern intended to strengthen the curve to keep it shaped right around the piston after the ring was stretched to fit onto the piston, The markings may be from that process.
Robert Rudolph do you know anything about the swail or lip on the piston if it controls air flow or helps atamize fuel or direct flow im baffled and interested?
It helps supply the mixture flow for best combustion, and to avoid intake contamination with exhaust. Two strokes, particularly those that do not use rotary or reed valves are a large number of compromises - the swail is one that worked better than anyone could anticipate,
Robert Rudolph hey thanx alot its always neat to learn about engin technologys that are outdated or as some call it dinosaur tech
Ive found that in most cases the oldies are usually the best !
Nice work, especially fixing that ring groove. First time I have seen cotter keys on conn rod nuts. Paint looks very good on the assembly. Liked and have a good week!
Thanks Steve!!☺
Goos to see it going back together smoothly!!!
As always nice progress
Good video as always !
I'm going to watch this series over when I start on mine.
I wondered about the order of the rings. Aren't you afraid of breaking the ring by taking them off? Today I just lost a gasket into a rewind assembly. Had to take it all apart get it out. I was tempted to leave it but I don't work that way. Enuff o dis!!
I'd put the oil control ring in first, followed
by the next upper ring. (What is an oil
control ring doing on a 2 stroke?)
steve
A ring grove cleaner would have cut that off on the way round...Love the build RK.
Thanks Mate!! We just bought one, we'll be all set for the next build!! Should have bought it years ago, especially since they are so cheap!! Cheers!!☺
Tomorrow, I have to change, passenger-side half shaft,
both brake pads and rotors on the front, and change
oil and ECVT oil. Should be fun. Oh, 2008 Altima.
I'd MUCH rather be working with Mike, Everett, and
the rest of the gang.
steve
cut the bottom off of a bottle and stick the piston inside then slide the bottle inside the crank case, so the piston is propped up and won't bang around while you work on the flywheel and kicker THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS
Great idea, I had an empty water bottle right behind me on the bench I could have used!!☺
5:34 did you replace that bearing?
Awesome! Can't wait till this puppy becomes a dog! I like this build. Only if u had a washing machine to go with it!
I use to have a washing machine!! They're a pain in the balls to transport and store!!☺
Are the rings not made of different metals? Sure i had some for a Villiers engine and each ring was different and had to go in a certain order.
Nice work, good video. the anticipation is killing me.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Hey Roadking, I watch your videos and like them a lot. Keep them coming. I have a chance to buy a model 93 may tag looks complete for $ 175.00. Is that a good price? After watching your videos I want to restore one. Thanks and keep up the good work.
A little high for an unrestored one, but not too bad if it runs!!☺
Looks good from over here. That finger and glove remind me of something I felt recently :O
Thanks Mate!! I should have put a warning at the beginning eh!!☺
Getting close pal. Cool as always.
Yeah Buddy!! Almost there!!☺
keep on sleep walking into your garage we all love all of the tinkering and working on stuff not made anymore
Smooth sailing so far!
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
I wonder how many people started to type messages that you hadn't oiled the crank and then had to stop when you went back and did it? All that's important in that you did remember. I was taught that you can never use too much oil when resembling an engine but I know somebody who took that to an extreme, there was oil everywhere lol.
Lookin Good Roadking!
Thanks Wayne!!☺
Great job King ! Thumbs up ..
Thank you Mate!!☺
Is the radial engine build an abandoned/dead project? I haven't seen anything about it in a while. Maybe I haven't been paying attention?
The more you people ask about it, the more Murphy finds ways to get in their way from working on it. Why do you have to force it?
aserta I'm not trying to force it. I'm just extremely curious. I'm an 18 year old who enjoys what he does and thinks the custom engines are cool. If he doesn't want to finish a project it's cool it's his time and money he can do what he wants.
Everett, later 2 stroke pistons had pins in the ring
lands to keep the ends of the rings from getting
in the ports (My Yamaha RD-400 comes to mind.)
How did Maytag address this?
I can imagine an engine running full out,
doing Grandma's laundry, and the end of
a ring catches the port, and parts go
FLYING! The "fertilizer" would hit the
air handler!
steve
OH, my TINY bicycle motor has the
same pins. (2 stroke 66 CC, and has been
carting MY fat posterior, for over 3 years now.)
(Only 2 pins, and 2 rings. Made in China.)
steve
Never mind. I just watched #14 and my question is answered. LMAO
The more I see that hunter green against the clean machined steel, the more I want to paint something of mine to match it.
Bringing it in to something closer like .010-.020
interesting that this two stroke engine piston does not have provisions for preventing the rings from rotating.
They are loose now, but in the piston they tighten, and they stop spinning. The dots on the back are in part in there, for that reason.
Paw, Ma says to hurry up. The warsh is pilin' up, and she needs the use the pea shucker and milk' n machine
You know when they stopped making the slanted rings?? I am taking apart a tractor from the 30s that didn't have have slanted rings.
I would imagine each Engine Manufacturer would be different, some might still be doing it!! I've seen them on engines I've worked on from the late fifties!!☺
I remember when they used to cost very little as well. Now, big name brands are selling them for ~20 ~30 dollars or something. I mean, what are we paying, for the item, or the brand? And some will say, better quality, bla bla, well, not really. It's a very simple process, it's so damned simple actually, that i bought a file cutting machine, and i'm reusing old Nicholson files to make new ones. Sure, hardening, tempering, the processes aren't in everyone's hands, but at no part in the process, except the initial investment, did i ever reach ~30 dollar brand name.
The dots are most likely there for two reasons, one, to identify where each ring sits (as you correctly deduced), and two, based on how the spread is made (not the tighter pattern per ring, rather in relation to the gap) to stop them from spinning once they have tightened inside the bore. That's my belief. Grandpa used to do it on new rings too. He had this three tipped punch that was slightly canted ,(no idea if it was bought or made, can't find it anymore) that he'd align the holes and give them a gentle, wack. Just enough to sink in the sharp tips and displace some metal.
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Looking good :)
Thanks Joe!! We set up at a show today, tomorrow well see how that baby runs!!☺
I am sure it will run as good as the day it was new my friend :)
An awesome vid
Thanks Bud!!☺
Thankyou!
Thank you Mate!!☺
@ 13:48 bolt? :)=
You just like sticking your fingers in them holes... :P
Made my 'Roids itch for some reason.
Nice. I like how did when do that when it did.
Thanks Bud!!☺
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