Are Scratch Golfers Actually That Good?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
  • Is it actually as hard as we think to play scratch golf? I've dug into the Shot Scope data to show you that a scratch handicap isn't about playing perfect golf, and it is way more achievable than most of us think.
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  • @allenparker2690
    @allenparker2690 10 месяцев назад +8

    This is great information for us lowly NO WHERE NEAR scratch golfer's 😅. My aim right now as a HIGH handicapper is find more fairways. Play to your ability not to what you see on TV. Work on one thing at a time. Love your channel ❤️

  • @bengoulding9723
    @bengoulding9723 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a scratch player and honestly I would say only about 2 out of 10 shots go close to where I'm aiming. However, I'd say DECADE golf helped me get to scratch as I can miss but I now miss on the good side. I'm realistic with my expectations. And I'd say the most important thing is putting like a plus 1 handicapper.
    My index is 0.2 at the moment and I've only ever shot under par 3 times. So it shows exactly what you said. It's not about making more birdies, it's about making fewer bogeys.

    • @davidgraham8058
      @davidgraham8058 10 месяцев назад +1

      I’m a scratch player too (+1) and there’s not much difference really between my long game and my mates who play off 12-16. I hit a bit further and more consistently, but that doesn’t really affect the scoring much. But I find a massive difference in the short game, even simple chipping is hard for them. And they 3 putt an awful lot. I don’t even think I’m that good at golf, I just don’t make as many mistakes as them.

    • @bengoulding9723
      @bengoulding9723 10 месяцев назад

      @davidgraham8058 exactly, I would say I'm a good scrambler and since I learnt aimpoint express my 3 putts have reduced a lot as now I never start the ball on the low side, so my second putts are now much closer. I play loads of scratch comps and can definitely say that 50% fairway hit seems generous!

    • @davidgraham8058
      @davidgraham8058 10 месяцев назад

      @@bengoulding9723 my mates seem to think I must be like a tour player if I’m off scratch but they treat scratch as some kind of Holy Grail. I tell them that an 18 handicap is much closer in ability to me than I am to a tour player, but they just don’t understand the levels. I was quite disappointed when I realised how easy it was to get to scratch.
      I do also find that I’m the only person at the range who actually practices properly. Most people hit driver or 7 iron only. I never practice hitting driver. I always practice 50, 75, 100yd carry and distances in between. I also practice hitting shot shapes, low, high. Mid handicappers don’t even bother.

  • @neilsharp4300
    @neilsharp4300 Месяц назад +1

    Every golfer regardless of handicap should watch this, great vid.

  • @dirtyoffroader2093
    @dirtyoffroader2093 10 месяцев назад +2

    I play regularly with two scratch golfers, on bad days id say both their driving is questionable, but recovery from those bad drives is utterly fantastic.. Short irons are to within 5-10ft on approach (unless something drastic happens with the bounce).. BUT... and more importantly, niether make many two putts 🤯
    Also both aren't super long of the tee btw.. 260 max. Learning what they do from 200yds in has taught me loads... just a shame I lack the skill to copy it 😂😂

  • @eddiemaylor2716
    @eddiemaylor2716 10 месяцев назад +2

    To understand how a scratch or plus handicap plays you need to watch them, not just on their best days but other days as well. Also with WHS it's your best 8 scores that produce your handicap index, not the other 12 scores.

  • @cwugrad396
    @cwugrad396 10 месяцев назад +3

    can’t believe she doesn’t have at least 100k followers. some great content on this channel

  • @FF04RDF
    @FF04RDF 10 месяцев назад +3

    The good players I’ve played with recover better than higher hc. So absolutely will miss greens but when they do, chipping and putting to either save par or single bogey only is the difference I see.

  • @spodbw1
    @spodbw1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great vlog, the truth as opposed to other RUclipsrs retaking there shots to make them look better than they are..

  • @gregboggs4721
    @gregboggs4721 10 месяцев назад +3

    Love your channel Hannah, no flaunting just straight up good content.

  • @blindsquirrel3123
    @blindsquirrel3123 10 месяцев назад +1

    This was brilliant, H! Two years ago I started my quest to reach scratch and had many of these same misconceptions (and reactions of self loathing 😂) and it was defeating to think about. I am currently a 6 handicap and getting closer to scratch every day.
    Keep up the great content.

  • @2010LeeG
    @2010LeeG 10 месяцев назад +5

    Possibly the most insightful video I have watched, and I have watched a lot!

  • @simoping
    @simoping Месяц назад

    Well there we go.. so much sense in 5 minutes... thankyou. Change my mindset

  • @golfmatt1112
    @golfmatt1112 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great makes me feel better at 24 handicap

  • @thetowndrunk988
    @thetowndrunk988 10 месяцев назад +1

    So to sum up, all I need to do is cut my tee to green shots down by 3, get my 150 shot average about 135 feet tighter, and cut 3 strokes off my putter? Got it 😂

  • @professorofextremelysmalls1732
    @professorofextremelysmalls1732 Месяц назад +1

    Hannah, you make some great points, golf to par is not easy, but you need to put the time in, no shortcuts🏌️‍♀️⛳️

  • @xxhank
    @xxhank 10 месяцев назад +1

    excellent stuff Hannah 👍

  • @locobenno9435
    @locobenno9435 10 месяцев назад

    the other big misconception about scratch golfers is the handicap system, and the fact that they don't have to shoot even par to play to their handicap....depending on course rating and conditions (daily rating) a scratch marker could shoot 3-4 over par and still get assessed at "0.0" on the day by the system

  • @PAULSTANFORD-gs6wr
    @PAULSTANFORD-gs6wr 2 месяца назад

    Hope today goes well Hannah at WHGC

  • @andrewjohnston5942
    @andrewjohnston5942 10 месяцев назад +1

    Stats are always great fun. Good video

  • @timmyinMB
    @timmyinMB 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great work

  • @craigseaver8062
    @craigseaver8062 10 месяцев назад

    I've noticed the biggest difference between the 4 hdcp and 14 hdcp is how many times the 14hdcp leave themselves 2 putt distance when chipping.

    • @brentwoods4802
      @brentwoods4802 10 месяцев назад

      And most low single digit players consistently hit approach shots pin high. You don’t have to knock down pins, you just grind out pars and the occasional birdie by hitting your scoring irons in particular pin high. None of the bogey golfers I play with hit the ball pin high more than a couple times per round. You can’t score that way. Most of them have no idea how far they even hit their average iron shots.

  • @barrymurton8988
    @barrymurton8988 10 месяцев назад

    It’s all about playing to your handicap, whether +2 or -24.

  • @TheTraditionalGolfer
    @TheTraditionalGolfer 10 месяцев назад

    I was scratch 10 yrs ago but jacked the game in fast forward to now and im back playing currently play off 3 and so having been scratch and even now very low i know exactly what it is that makes the difference and its Mostly short game.....

  • @benjaminpope2909
    @benjaminpope2909 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice one Hannah. Great video, and very insightful. Going to be a lot less hard on myself during the journey to scratch golfing knowing this!

  • @2010LeeG
    @2010LeeG 10 месяцев назад +1

    Blown away from some of those stats. Too hard on myself.

    • @hannahholdenNCG
      @hannahholdenNCG  10 месяцев назад

      They’re mad aren’t they!!

    • @2010LeeG
      @2010LeeG 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@hannahholdenNCG crazy. I won't be getting angry missing the green from 100 any more, maybe missing a 1 foot putt still 🤣

  • @user-eh9vk1dd1f
    @user-eh9vk1dd1f 21 день назад

    Don’t forget short game , probably more important than distance off the tee . Great video Hannah , very informative.

  • @davehurley26
    @davehurley26 10 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant 👍

  • @catherinebaker566
    @catherinebaker566 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great information.

  • @michaelgillies9075
    @michaelgillies9075 10 месяцев назад

    What KBS shaft are u using in your driver out of curiosity?

    • @hannahholdenNCG
      @hannahholdenNCG  10 месяцев назад +1

      KBS TD 60 S!

    • @michaelgillies9075
      @michaelgillies9075 10 месяцев назад

      @@hannahholdenNCG the catagory 3 S shaft is a great shaft I use the same,I’ve got a full bag of KBS shafts and I won’t use anything else,what length do u play it at and is your shaft tipped at all?

    • @michaelgillies9075
      @michaelgillies9075 10 месяцев назад

      @@hannahholdenNCG I’m interested to see how a player of your calibre has their shaft set at so us amateur players can learn a thing or 2

  • @paulmcgee1867
    @paulmcgee1867 10 месяцев назад +1

    Not even tour players hit every shot perfectly however they know how to manage the mistakes as you would do too

  • @bilal137
    @bilal137 10 месяцев назад

    Well thats it. Golf advice can’t get any better. You’ve clearly made every other golf improvement channel utterly redundant now.
    Everyone can now focus on course vlogs from now. Also, I’m not any good at taking advice anyways

  • @nickmillar9651
    @nickmillar9651 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great information and

  • @barking_mad6649
    @barking_mad6649 9 месяцев назад

    Nice video, and sorry you have to put up with so many pond life in the comments.

  • @ServingMyJesus
    @ServingMyJesus 10 месяцев назад

    So, when a golfer, like yourself, becomes a plus handicap what are the stats then?

  • @nickmillar9651
    @nickmillar9651 10 месяцев назад

    Hannah are you playing a stealth driver here very nice

  • @jonwright8236
    @jonwright8236 9 месяцев назад

    giving me hope Hannah :)

  • @Sokko13
    @Sokko13 10 месяцев назад

    Hannah ❤

  • @CybekCusal
    @CybekCusal 10 месяцев назад

    Put the trolls in their place Hannah!

  • @Aaronfps2
    @Aaronfps2 3 месяца назад

    Iv heard scratch golfers average 1 more GIR than a 4 handicapper

  • @rafabonati7757
    @rafabonati7757 10 месяцев назад +1

    “It’s really not that hard.”

    • @hannahholdenNCG
      @hannahholdenNCG  10 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂

    • @breakingninetygolf
      @breakingninetygolf 10 месяцев назад

      In theory it's simple haha

    • @davidgraham8058
      @davidgraham8058 10 месяцев назад

      It’s honestly not that hard. Once you get the concept of the swing technically, without trying to do it too consciously, that quickly builds a consistent strike. From there, it’s just sharpening up the short game and a bit of course management.

  • @sepetisionelatu5539
    @sepetisionelatu5539 6 месяцев назад

    Scratch golfers do better as a whole not just part of the game. They hit more fairway, up and down, and dropped in more putts to save their neck than a two-digit golfer. Another thing, when a scratch golfer or better player swings l can tell they are good players and it's the opposite of the less skilled players.

  • @Adrian-yv8sy
    @Adrian-yv8sy 10 месяцев назад

    just as easy as that ha

  • @colinmorgan1025
    @colinmorgan1025 10 месяцев назад

    What is a scratch golfer . You can be scratch off fwd tees but put on back champ tees you now are not a scratch golfer.

  • @jcgolf159
    @jcgolf159 10 месяцев назад +1

    Loved this! Excellent visualisation