Will Durant---The Philosophy of Schopenhauer

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  • Will Durant---The Philosophy of Schopenhauer
    Embark on a thought-provoking journey into the world of Arthur Schopenhauer's philosophy, guided by the erudite Will Durant. In this captivating video, Durant unravels the complex web of Schopenhauer's philosophical ideas, offering deep insights into the life, works, and enduring influence of this remarkable thinker.
    🔍 What You'll Discover:
    Introduction to Arthur Schopenhauer: Gain insights into the life and background of Arthur Schopenhauer, understanding the formative experiences that shaped his unique worldview.
    Schopenhauer's Pessimism: Explore the central theme of Schopenhauer's philosophy - his pessimistic view of life and existence - and its profound implications.
    The Will to Live: Delve into Schopenhauer's concept of the "Will to Live" and its role in human suffering and desire.
    Metaphysics and Aesthetics: Uncover Schopenhauer's metaphysical ideas, including his views on the nature of reality and the power of art to transcend suffering.
    Influence on Existentialism: Discover how Schopenhauer's philosophy laid the groundwork for existentialist thought and influenced thinkers like Nietzsche and Freud.
    Legacy and Contemporary Relevance: Durant examines Schopenhauer's lasting impact on philosophy, psychology, and literature, highlighting his continued relevance in the modern world.

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  • @iniesta
    @iniesta 9 лет назад +162

    the age 0:04 pg 347 many of the poor 4:08 pg 349 the man 5:51 pg 350 After this dissertation 10:56 pg 352 So completely did Schopenhauer 13:25 pg 353 Like a sensible pessimist 15:24 pg 354 He was not too old 17:43 pg 355 The World as Idea 18:43 pg 355 If we had followed materialism 24:19 pg 358 The World as Will 26:38 pg 359 The act of will 31:40 pg 362 Let us try, then 34:47 pg 363 THE WILL TO REPRODUCE 39:10 pg 366 Because the passion 44:17 pg 368 Only in space 47:22 pg 370 Everyone believes himself 50:27 pg 371 The World as Evil 51:05 pg 372 For as the phenomenon 55:00 pg 374 The young hydra 56:22 pg 374 We are unhappy married 59:27 pg 376 To be happy, one must be as ignorant as youth 1:01:32 pg 377 Just as theology is a refuge from death 1:04:23 pg 378 The final refuge is suicide 1:05:48 pg 379 The Wisdom of Life 1:06:50 pg 379 Not wealth but wisdom is the Way 1:08:28 pg 380 This power of the intellect 1:10:02 pg 381 The way out of the evil of endless willing 1:13:34 pg 383 When some external cause or inward disposition 1:14:06 pg 383 GENIUS 1:15:03 pg 384 ART 1:20:21 pg 386 This power of the arts 1:22:52 pg 388 RELIGION 1:23:52 pg 388 Buddhism 1:25:52 pg 389 The Wisdom of Death 1:27:59 pg 390 It is woman that 1:29:40 pg 391 This veneration of women 1:31:55 pg 392 Criticism 1:34:23 pg 394

  • @nupraptorthementalist3306
    @nupraptorthementalist3306 4 года назад +59

    Despite his pessimism, I find him to be the most uplifting.

    • @edgregory1
      @edgregory1 Год назад +2

      "Hope is killing me Jerry!"
      --George Costanza

    • @battragon
      @battragon 3 месяца назад +1

      Ha. Yup.

  • @kennethcarvalho3684
    @kennethcarvalho3684 5 лет назад +109

    One of the best narrators ever..makes listening to such a heavy topic a pleasure.

    • @henrywolf5332
      @henrywolf5332 3 года назад +1

      Schopenhauer is a far greater intellect than Durant. It shows

    • @kennethcarvalho3684
      @kennethcarvalho3684 3 года назад +6

      @@henrywolf5332 oh was not comparing them.

    • @JamesBath-is-here
      @JamesBath-is-here 3 года назад +9

      I agree -- this narrator is one of the best. I believe his name is Leighton Pugh.

    • @shannonm.townsend1232
      @shannonm.townsend1232 2 года назад +3

      @@JamesBath-is-here I am sure he has narrated many Phillip K. Dick novels, his voice really adds a wonderfully affable yet wry dimension to the material. A consummate professional.

    • @JamesBath-is-here
      @JamesBath-is-here 2 года назад +1

      @@shannonm.townsend1232 Thanks. I didn't realize that. I'll be on the lookout for that the next time I buy audio.

  • @HotshotGTar
    @HotshotGTar 9 лет назад +49

    A pessimist is an optimist with experience.

    • @EarthAngel504
      @EarthAngel504 9 лет назад +7

      HotshotGTar An Pessimist is a realist who understands Murphy's Law and Human nature. -Jaygo

    • @S2Cents
      @S2Cents 9 лет назад +2

      HotshotGTar Like a neo-con is "a liberal that's been mugged by reality"? (Joking) Yeah a liberal that was mugged and suffered head trauma resulting in permanent cognitive impairment.

    • @hammeringhank5271
      @hammeringhank5271 6 лет назад

      K

    • @uniperson9074
      @uniperson9074 6 лет назад

      Agreed.

  • @almilligan7317
    @almilligan7317 2 года назад +28

    I remember Schopenhauer every day. As Schopenhauer named his poodle Atman, I returned the favor and named my Labradoodle, Schopenhauer. So, I love Schopenhauer.

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 года назад +5

      😁😁😁 If you ever have a second dog, dont forget to call him (Frerderic) Nietzsche . . .

  • @miscellaneousstuff8362
    @miscellaneousstuff8362 6 лет назад +77

    Schopenhauer is most undervalued and unrecognized author of all which is punishment for gazing at life and humanity through an unfiltered lens and unashamedly exposing its immutable facts and truths no matter how unpleasant they may be. I am always trying to keep people informed about Schopenhauer, because by promoting him I also promote wisdom and reason in its purest form.

    • @BuceGar
      @BuceGar 5 лет назад +5

      I like him as well, I'm more of an Epicurean, but his insights seem to be correct.
      What he is describing is the struggle of the rational mind to overcome the irrationality of emotion and life.

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 5 лет назад +6

      A most wonderful comment my friend and fellow sufferer.

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 5 лет назад +8

      I find Schop comforting but 99 +% of the population don't want to know these things. If you really want an accurate picture of humanity read some Thomas Bernhard. I see little point in trying to get people to use reason. That would go against their natures. It's a bad idea to draw this misery out by slightly educating a species that is destined to forever sail the fail boat into a dirty brown sunset.

    • @meepmeep6572
      @meepmeep6572 Год назад

      @@johnmiller7453 why not get rich educating the public

  • @emmelinechannel9991
    @emmelinechannel9991 9 лет назад +68

    One of the true giants of philosophy!

  • @adriancutner2489
    @adriancutner2489 6 лет назад +49

    Rocky C., I just want to express my gratitude for your uploading the entire Will Durant series. When I was a kid, Schopenhauer was among the first philosophers I read. It was an amazing experience for me; transformative, actually; because I was only a callow youth. I'm in my Senior years now, so it is particularly nostalgic to listen to this, as well as the other, uploads. I believe there will always be a place for Schopenhauer's philosophy. Thank you very much.

    • @ragemsaid8697
      @ragemsaid8697 5 лет назад

      Adrian Cutner thank u. M a muslim the Qur’an teaches me that this life is not real it’s an illusion. Have u ever look into it? N y? Bcoz here the west is fond of Buddha but not Mohamed n ancient man of billion followers, I always wonder y? Mohamed-pbuh-emphasized: that the real life is when we “die” n meet Allah sw; the creator; the true owner of the soul- n everything in creation. The point here, is to “submit” to him/ to Allah sw n “worship” him alone, n know the true nature of u-hu u r- as human is : u r a slave, a mere servant; thus submit. In that token, Schopenhauer is right n had done a correct imagination.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 3 года назад +1

      @@ragemsaid8697 Observe the comment section here: ruclips.net/video/u-YIzmpzUP0/видео.html
      I also request that you watch the movie Tolkien and then consider the fact that one of Tolkien's sons was a Roman Catholic priest for nearly 50 years. Dawkins' notorious book puts the entire thing neatly with its title: The God Delusion!
      Buddhism to the West does not contain any of the pesky things that is in Christianity and Islam and it's creator does not have any particular moral problem by today's standards (something that is especially found in Muhammed) or at least no one has paid any attention to them in however long the man has been written about.

    • @saimbhat6243
      @saimbhat6243 Год назад +1

      @@artofthepossible7329 Buddhism and west is an oxymoron.
      It is quite funny for me to hear investment bankers or movie celebrities talk about their Buddhist wisdom and meditations.
      People in west use the doctrines of Buddhism to cope up with their stressful lives. Just like daoism, bhuddism is a 500 B.C pro-primitivist worldview, wherein the main problem of the existence is either the self and/or the civilization itself. Current materialistic, hedonistic and consumerist west would have been an unimaginable horror show for the buddha. Actual budhhist masters 1) abandon the worldly life. 2) Dissolve the sense of self hood/ego/personhood. All other renditions of buddha's doctrines in current west are just coping mechanisms and so was it for the Schopenhauer.
      Contrary to this, remove the eurocentric snobbery and contemporary moral sensitives/tastes of the men, Islam is a doctrine for an iron-fisted duel(on spiritual level) with the world, with all its miseries and it emerges as its conqueror.
      If you submit to the divine will, there is nothing in the world to be sad about. Sadness for a true believer, becomes trivial.

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 6 лет назад +46

    1:11:35 “.. it is dangerous to read about a subject before we have thought obout it ourselves, when we read, another person thinks for us, we nearly repeat his mental process, so it comes about that if anyone spends almost the whole day in reading, he gradually loses the capacity for thinking..”

  • @LunaLu-00
    @LunaLu-00 6 лет назад +15

    "to convince a man you must appeal to his self-interest, his desires, his will.."

  • @jamesderoc6717
    @jamesderoc6717 8 лет назад +62

    schop makes me happy

  • @blackmetalmagick1
    @blackmetalmagick1 7 лет назад +72

    Schopenhauer was a Genius, great great stuff.

    • @lordmurphy4344
      @lordmurphy4344 6 лет назад +11

      Cee Gee gee calm down, lots of philosophers have said dumb sexist and misogynistic stuff, you wouldn’t abandon modern logic just because Frege was an extreme nationalist or Heidegger ontology cause he was a nazi party member. Please piss off with your fake narrow outrage, you must be a woman to be this agitated

    • @AStoicMaster
      @AStoicMaster 6 лет назад +5

      1. Shopenhauer says the sky is blue.
      2. But Shopenhauer believes men are smarter because they rape women.
      3. Therefore, the sky is not blue.
      Shopenhauer's distasteful ideas have nothing to do with whether or not he can have true utterances. You've employed a fatuous ad hominem non sequitur here. Attack the argument, not the person.

    • @BuceGar
      @BuceGar 5 лет назад +9

      Cee Gee is the type of woman Shopenhauer was warning us about.
      How dare Shopenhauer say anything that would dissuade a man from doing irrational things to please a woman...

    • @atiqadam4267
      @atiqadam4267 3 года назад +1

      This guy hits the nail on the head!!!!

  • @geoffreynhill2833
    @geoffreynhill2833 Год назад +6

    Possibly the most eloquent and clear résumé of Schopenhauer's thought! 🤔 PS: Will Durant's "The Story of Philosophy" deserves a place on Everyman's bookshelf. (Green Fire, UK) 🌈🦉

    • @geoffreynhill2833
      @geoffreynhill2833 Год назад

      Schopenhauer was a profound and prescient thinker on the rôle and future of philosophy & religion. "Science requires talent but Art requires genius". Sadly, he was also profoundly male chauvinist. ☹

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 6 лет назад +11

    1:10:40 “ The more we know about our passions, the less they control us”

  • @iconoclast1399
    @iconoclast1399 Год назад +6

    Schopenhauer lets me laugh at the obsurdity of life. As Will durant said "If life is but a bitter jest, let us forget the bitterness and remember the jest".

  • @randalllake2785
    @randalllake2785 Год назад +6

    The artist who painted the portrait of Schopenhauer is brilliant. BRILLIANT

  • @infonomics
    @infonomics 3 года назад +86

    "After copulation, man hears the devil's laughter." - Schopenhauer. A few seconds of pleasure for a lifetime of misery.

    • @benlotus2703
      @benlotus2703 3 года назад +12

      Divorce;
      'After copulation, man hears the devil's laughter." - Schopenhauer. A few seconds of pleasure for a lifetime of misery.

    • @jojokintel
      @jojokintel Год назад +2

      It is the best quote

    • @luisd5098
      @luisd5098 Год назад +1

      Go on

    • @2Hot2
      @2Hot2 Год назад

      Unless we cheat the devil for the price of a condom!

    • @averayugen7802
      @averayugen7802 Год назад +1

      It is funny. How many other statements did he make like such? It would be a great pamphlet, "The mad wit and gloomy humor of Arthur the S".

  • @MrPoe22
    @MrPoe22 3 года назад +2

    My philosophy of life is in equal alignment with Schopenhauer’s. I believe his genius can only be fully appreciated and understood after having had very specific life experiences, particularly with regards to his views on women.

  • @SIMKINETICS
    @SIMKINETICS 9 лет назад +53

    The more I admire human potential, the more I'm disappointed by human folly.

    • @juanrosales7687
      @juanrosales7687 4 года назад

      estas desiulucionado....de, DIOS. ...no, seas ...COBARDE....y......admitelo, eres un jesusfreack....

  • @michauxborns
    @michauxborns 2 года назад +7

    "Nothing is more provoking, when we are arguing against a man with reasons & explanations, & taking all pains to convince him, than to discover at last that he WILL not understand - that we have deal with his Will" (-Schopenhauer).

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi Год назад +1

      This was very good the way he describes it, so true.

    • @paulahoskins9972
      @paulahoskins9972 Месяц назад

      The cognitive dissonance of today would flip Schopenhauer's wig.

  • @LunaLu-00
    @LunaLu-00 6 лет назад +18

    "the will is a strong blind man that carries on his shoulders the lame man that can see" (will vs intellect)

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 3 года назад +2

    I really enjoy these podcast they don't eat up my slow limited internet and I can just lay here on the couch and enjoy. Hard to believe this guy and all his thoughts so long ago it's chilling

  • @kenthomas856
    @kenthomas856 9 лет назад +5

    Will Durant is great.... Thanks much, Rocky.

  • @orno8906
    @orno8906 4 месяца назад +1

    thank you for the obvious love you have given to this project! Will and Ariel Durant are amazing thinkers, but their true genius is in the presentation and preservation of history, art and philosophy.

  • @stevekennedy5380
    @stevekennedy5380 6 лет назад +5

    Durant and Schopenhauer were both great thinkers. My modest opinion is that Schopenhauer is more accurate in his description of the human experience.

  • @Sidionian
    @Sidionian 2 года назад +12

    Let us take a moment of silence to bow before this giant of philosophy: Arthur Shopenhauer, God among insects.

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 2 года назад +1

      Yep my freind. But he wanted us to be GODS TOO ! And I aim for that goal . . .

  • @frankmuller596
    @frankmuller596 7 лет назад +25

    Great stuff this, a clever guy who could see through it all.

    • @terrypogue
      @terrypogue 6 лет назад +3

      Clearly the narrator is Gover Gardner, on eFax the best.

    • @terrypogue
      @terrypogue 6 лет назад +1

      One of the best!

  • @OrganicBatteryAcid
    @OrganicBatteryAcid 8 лет назад +3

    this is incredible thanks for uploading

  • @vincentyoung2146
    @vincentyoung2146 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @lylecosmopolite
    @lylecosmopolite 2 года назад +5

    I had never thought of the post-Napoleonic world as one where hope for the future had seemingly gone to die. Good point.
    Additional fact. The summer of 1816 was the coldest ever since the invention of the thermometer. The reason was a supervolcanic eruption in what is now Indonesia, an event that resulted in snow and killing frosts in July. Crops failed badly all over northwest Europe. Tens of thousands must have starved to death, or survived only by selling their land to the local lord or to a moneylender.
    I do not agree that Schubert, Chopin or Mendelson were pessimistic composers. Beethoven's Ode to Joy is robustly optimistic.
    During his student days, Schopenhauer got into an argument with his working class landlady. The two came to blows and he pushed her down a flight of stairs. She took him to court and won; Schopenhauer was ordered to pay her damages and had to find new lodgings. This incident has been invoked to explain Schopenhauer's confirmed misoginy throughout his life. He wrote things like "women have no innate sense of justice" etc.

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi Год назад

      Thnx. Good info.

  • @rolldeepNASA
    @rolldeepNASA 3 года назад +2

    to see things purely as objects of understanding is to rise to freedom

  • @LunaLu-00
    @LunaLu-00 6 лет назад +9

    "dark death - the only victor of all the wars"

    • @thadtuiol1717
      @thadtuiol1717 4 года назад

      Yeah, and not just the Napoleonic ones, EVERY WAR EVER FOUGHT

  • @zatoichiable
    @zatoichiable 8 лет назад +29

    These philosophers are much like rock musicians. They cant be called rockers unless they had a terrible life of drugs and abuse.

  • @michaelleblanc7283
    @michaelleblanc7283 7 лет назад +2

    Excellent - absolutely excellent !

  • @lawrencebloom2454
    @lawrencebloom2454 5 лет назад +3

    Schopenhauer wasn’t to concerned about containing his own ego. It was a defect that constrained his philosophy, by constraining his intellectual honesty.

  • @luigipati3815
    @luigipati3815 5 лет назад +14

    Not only is that "pessimist" nonsensical label gratuitously attributed to Schopenhauer (even he disagreed with it), but even to composers like Schubert, Beethoven, Chopin, Schumann.....that is the first time I hear about it, and I learned almost everything about their lives. Nonsense. For example, Beethoven composed most works in the major key (happy), and even many of the ones in minor key (darker and sad) ended in major key. Beethoven was actually for victory after the struggle, he even wrote about it in what is famously called the "Heilingenstadt Testament". These composers have nothing to do with "pessimism", even though their lives have been really sad. Each of them wrote majestic and triumphant music, with nothing at all "pessimist" in it. A quick and brilliant example is the Mazurka in F op 68 by Chopin. But there are innumerable ones, by all the great composers mentioned.

  • @enigmahammer444
    @enigmahammer444 5 месяцев назад

    Ive listened to this more than I care to admit, huge classic. You are a legend for having this up on here for all of us to watch. Hope all is well with you!

  • @robertrowland1061
    @robertrowland1061 8 лет назад +2

    Thank you INIESTA for compiling this!
    24:19
    the age 0:04 pg 313 many of the poor 4:08 pg 314 the man 5:51 pg 315 After this dissertation 10:56 pg 317 So completely did Schopenhauer 13:25 pg 318 Like a sensible pessimist 15:24 pg 319 He was not too old 17:43 pg 320 The World as Idea 18:43 pg 320 If we had followed materialism 24:19 pg 323 The World as Will 26:38 pg 324 The act of will 31:40 pg 326 Let us try, then 34:47 pg 327 THE WILL TO REPRODUCE 39:10 pg 329 Because the passion 44:17 pg 331 Only in space 47:22 pg 332 Everyone believes himself 50:27 pg 333 The World as Evil 51:05 pg 334 For as the phenomenon 55:00 pg 335 The young hydra 56:22 pg 336 We are unhappy married 59:27 pg 337 To be happy, one must be as ignorant as youth 1:01:32 pg 338 Just as theology is a refuge from death 1:04:23 pg 339 The final refuge is suicide 1:05:48 pg 339 The Wisdom of Life 1:06:50 pg 340 Not wealth but wisdom is the Way 1:08:28 pg 341 This power of the intellect 1:10:02 pg 341 The way out of the evil of endless willing 1:13:34 pg 343 When some external cause or inward disposition 1:14:06 pg 343 GENIUS 1:15:03 pg 343 ART 1:20:21 pg 346 This power of the arts 1:22:52 pg 347 RELIGION 1:23:52 pg 347 Buddhism 1:25:52 pg 348 The Wisdom of Death 1:27:59 pg 349 It is woman that 1:29:40 pg 350 This veneration of women 1:31:55 pg 351 Criticism 1:34:23 pg 352

  • @EzraAChen
    @EzraAChen 9 лет назад +2

    Thanks for posting it

  • @batsky6061
    @batsky6061 3 года назад +15

    Does anyone else when listening to or reading Schopenhauer feel as if he were somehow your own conscience?

    • @ahuman5150
      @ahuman5150 3 года назад +2

      Sort of. Whenever I saw something in this life and wondered about it, by reading Schopenhauer, I felt like he was grabbing my head, point it in one direction and said, "look, there it is." And it all made sense.

    • @Guilherme-mg5fn
      @Guilherme-mg5fn 2 года назад

      You asking that because you have any anime or mangá in mind?

    • @batsky6061
      @batsky6061 2 года назад

      @@Guilherme-mg5fn Ahh hello fellow weeb.

    • @DawsonSWilliams
      @DawsonSWilliams Год назад +3

      At various points of my life, yes! Whenever I see a beetle writhing on the ground, attempting to get back on its legs, I think of the suffering of life (in the context of Schopenhauer.) I mean this seriously, because it brings to mind the pity so essential to Schopenhauer’s Ethics.

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi Год назад

      Its great

  • @PennyDreadful1
    @PennyDreadful1 6 лет назад +80

    Will Durant's criticism of him seem to be a general "get out of the house and play football with the other blander kids and stop listening to all that edgy music and be so grumpy all the time" Maybe the point is that if you are not caught up in physical and social action all the time and start thinking about things from the outside and from a cosmic perspective life all seems pretty gross, arbitrary and cruel precisely because it is.

    • @DMHR100
      @DMHR100 6 лет назад +6

      I read the entire book some years ago and that was the weakest criticism for any philosopher I've seen.

    • @HughMorristheJoker
      @HughMorristheJoker 6 лет назад +10

      IntermediateJesus almost all criticism of schopenhauer Falls flat because he wasn't sad or lonely or so upset or miserable. He enjoyed nice dinners he enjoyed Solitude and study. He was merely saying that the way most people live life thinking that they're going to be eternally happy and that they're going to make it one day and that life is a journey well all that's wrong and schopenhauer was right about that.

    • @MacSmithVideo
      @MacSmithVideo 5 лет назад +1

      its not the worst criticism for someone who was clearly a sickly shut in. His perspective was limited.

    • @johnmiller7453
      @johnmiller7453 5 лет назад +14

      Exactly, Schopenhauer obviously made Durant uncomfortable. However to his credit he did a pretty good job with this overall. Durant was no slouch. We all have places in ourselves we can't go. He had family and wife and to fully agree with the Schop would make all that seem like a bad mistake.

    • @FirsToStrike
      @FirsToStrike 5 лет назад +2

      There is no cosmic perspective, as the cosmos is not alive, we are, and so we project will on the cosmos, and then find that it is alive. And if what is said to be the cosmic perspective disappears just as transiently as anything else when you go play with the other kids, at least if you had the "lack of knowledge" that is necessary to actually have fun with that, then maybe that cosmic perspective is just as illusory as all other perspectives, and maybe we should leave the exploration of perspectives be, and go play.

  • @sunglassesnadvil
    @sunglassesnadvil 4 года назад +5

    he’s the man!

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo 6 лет назад +3

    Fantastic content. Just perfect narration.

  • @rolldeepNASA
    @rolldeepNASA 3 года назад +4

    o' how these readings have sustained me... even at this very moment..

  • @winterramos4527
    @winterramos4527 4 года назад +5

    I'm in my mid 30's and I'm getting more and more closer to philosophy

  • @royerreasonist
    @royerreasonist 3 года назад

    Thanks so much Rocky C.

  • @johnmiller7453
    @johnmiller7453 6 лет назад +13

    I have noticed that Durant does not "critique" all the Philosophers. Hardly any in fact. If he's going that route he should forgo the critique and let the listener make any decisions as to the qualifications of the Philosopher. Unless you've suffered all the cruelties of life I wouldn't be so quick to minimize them and to say that each man makes his own fate is just plain self indulgent ignorance and lack of empathy and compassion. Some people don't get a fair deal which would allow them to benefit from the disasters/challenges that befall them. Take children for example who may suffer long before they can use reason to understand the situation. Durant makes a critique when Schopenhauer is unable to answer which IMO would have been very easy for most any rational thinker. I see much more misery and denial than joy of living. This is often the case of those who catch lucky breaks in life. They ignore the others true sufferings and belittle them. Schopenhauer is not IMO an unfortunate soul. And as to suicide Durant should turn to Ernest Becker to see how suicide is actually another way to the "Denial of Death". The others have more practical reason such as relief of physical pain. Durant has one of his rare fails here and has shown himself to be a lesser man however learned. Now we have a critique of you Durant. Enjoy.
    Other than that this was excellent. Schopenhauer is one of my very favorite philosophers and one of the reasons I have become a fan of antinatalism.

    • @Guilherme-mg5fn
      @Guilherme-mg5fn 2 года назад +6

      Throughout the book, I've noticed that Will Durant is, or at least tends to be, a relativistic man, and it's obvious that someone who sees the philosopher as an outfit that changes according to the moods is not conducive to criticism. or honest reviews. Because of this, I will show in an initial observation and in three points later that his criticism of Schopenhauer's philosophy is dishonest because it is based on forgeries and the opportunistic refusal to consider fundamental aspects that would be obstacles to its purposes. Well, let's go:
      The initial observation I wanted to make concerns the pseudo-refutation he made of the doctrine of the slavery of the will, a doctrine that was already present between the Stoics and St. Augustine before being appropriated by Schopenhauer (it is obvious that he received different names for each of them. of philosophies). He says that being a slave to the will isn't all that bad because total satisfaction might not be the best thing to look for and that there are things worth pursuing on their own like, for example, the "conquest", the " overcoming" and "strengthening". The problem is that he didn't make any rebuttals by saying this and, in fact, all he managed to do was make a basic mess by putting the object in front of the purpose. Let me explain: Every time we want something, we need it and we only need it because its absence causes us suffering, so we look for it not to suffer, and not for itself. Thus, the purpose of all wanting is always not to suffer and never the object that causes suffering, which is always just a tool. It also follows from this reasoning that life according to wanting can never provide what it seeks, which is the satisfaction of not suffering, because the satisfaction is merely momentary and the wanting is infinite, so that the want itself is the cause of suffering. Now, according to all the correct reasoning set out, it follows that the "refutation" Wil Durant's is an atrocious stupidity because how can a person achieve a life worth living and happy through a lifestyle that never delivers what it promises and that only causes suffering, which is precisely what one escapes from adopting this Lifestyle? He says it might be better not to live fully satisfied, but he recommends a life whose only goal is the satisfaction of not suffering. Amazing logic. If you incessantly want something, you use methods that make you get it, and not fruitless methods. It is completely meaningless, a pseudo-refutation of a born relativist.
      The first point I wanted to comment on concerns his own statements. He says that the unhappy and pessimistic man is blamed for his own unhappiness for having ruined his life rather than seeking to mold it to be a better place for himself. The problem is that he does not see that this transformation of his own life for the better only happens through the denial of it through ascesis precisely because life is essentially bad and that, regardless of whether this is done or not, the world continues to be in its totality a hostile and deplorable place. Still according to him, there is a mediocre happy life, honest pleasures and ascesis is the attitude of the apathetic man, but these assertions he can only make, of course, through the aforementioned pseudo-refutation and deliberate ignorance of the inherent evils of the world and of man. Furthermore, he still says that the pessimistic man is only like that because of boredom and because he has not lived a "normal" life, but what he ignores is that both types of men (both the "boring" and those of "normal life") are unhappy, differing only in the degree of unhappiness. Finally, he claims that the man of high intellectuality has both his pleasure and his suffering increased, but he forgets that pleasure grows in arithmetical progression, while suffering grows in geometric progression.
      The second point he wanted to comment on deals not with what he said in itself, but what he did not say. He makes a point of mentioning thebirdsong and contemplative beauty (as if Schopenhauer had not already responded to this), but "innocently" forgets to mention more unpleasant things present in nature and in the world. Why didn't he mention, for example, the fact that hyenas open up and eat buffaloes while they are still alive? Why didn't he mention the "beautiful" attitude of chimps who kill their rivals with cruelty and then cannibalize them? Why didn't he talk about male white sharks raping female white sharks? Or why didn't he mention the male African lions, which drive out the weaker male lion and kill, and sometimes even eat, its young? Now, the most important question: why did he ignore human selfishness? Why didn't he allude to the fact that the state only exists because people are naturally selfish and evil? Why didn't he mention the fact that it's impossible for two or more people to be together for a long time without them soon starting to kill and use each other, so everywhere you see murder, torture, rape, racism, inequalities and so on? The answer to all these questions is obvious: He didn't mention any of this because it would be inconvenient to his overly optimistic ends. These aspects of Schopenhauer's reality and philosophy would make it impossible for him to defend the "nice" world thesis. He hides what causes him fear and displeasure. A smart and cowardly relativist.
      The third and final point he wanted to comment on concerns not what he said or did not say, but rather an erroneous impression he seemed to have and which many people also have. A lot of people (including Will Durant, I believe) think (in his case, he thought) that pessimism is synonymous with sadness and depression. Turns out pessimism has nothing to do with any of this. Pessimism is merely acknowledging the world as it is, that is, as essentially evil and taking action based on that knowledge, that is, acting in such a way as not to create false illusions and have no regrets whatsoever. That's it. If a person is pessimistic and has sadness and depression, this is accidental rather than substantial. I'm sure Schopenhauer never wrote his philosophy to make people sad and depressed, but only to make them see the world as it is and thus be able to act in the best possible way in life.

  • @edwardferry8247
    @edwardferry8247 4 года назад +12

    Imagine writing one of the great works of philosophy in your 20’s.

    • @DawsonSWilliams
      @DawsonSWilliams Год назад +4

      Truly! I feel like Caesar when he reflected on the spoils of a young Alexander-I have lived in vain.
      It’s amazing that Hume, Wittgenstein, and Schopenhauer were able to complete some of the most influential works in philosophy, while in their twenties.

  • @hongganglai3758
    @hongganglai3758 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing! Great channel!

  • @carloscamachopsychologist4800
    @carloscamachopsychologist4800 Год назад +2

    Amazing. Thank you.

    • @planksip
      @planksip Год назад +1

      I enjoy reading Schopenhauer as well.

  • @carloscamachopsychologist4800
    @carloscamachopsychologist4800 Год назад +1

    Beautifully explained. Thank you.

  • @ceejay9336
    @ceejay9336 8 лет назад +1

    Lovely!

  • @atiqadam4267
    @atiqadam4267 4 года назад +1

    S. H. HAS CHANGED MY LIFE..

  • @JackSmith-up7qt
    @JackSmith-up7qt 5 лет назад +2

    Will Durant studied the greatest humans in history not skepticaly, but definitely harshly

  • @kelvioford
    @kelvioford 7 лет назад +4

    That guy could pass for Robocops great grandfather

  • @alanmann6099
    @alanmann6099 3 года назад

    " Anthology of woe". Love it.

  • @piushalg8175
    @piushalg8175 2 месяца назад

    It is an opinion widely shared that Schopenhauer was one of the most brilliant stylists of German tongue.And as a German speaking personI have to consent. And moreover Schopenhauer appears to me as a very honest man.

  • @timblackburn1593
    @timblackburn1593 8 лет назад +1

    Sincere thanks to Iniesta for the timings (below) ...BTW - it won't come as any surprise to anyone reading this - but your discipline and presence across world football is the most inspirational display of controlled will the sport has ever seen...all the best against Leicester tonight, you might need it ;-)

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist 7 лет назад +1

    Thx for posting

    • @neillioen
      @neillioen 6 лет назад

      Thank you for posting as well.

  • @cinnamon4605
    @cinnamon4605 Год назад

    This is beauty ❤️

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 6 лет назад +4

    1:16:47 “..free from will, the intellect can see the object as it is.”

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 3 года назад +1

    This is so incredibly accurate

  • @wolf359survivor2
    @wolf359survivor2 2 года назад +3

    I never knew how much of a pessimist I was for agreeing with Schopenhauer On Marriage. Yet, he is right.

  • @rust719
    @rust719 6 лет назад +5

    I love this man, he's my master.

  • @timblackburn4052
    @timblackburn4052 8 лет назад +3

    1h40m - Schopenhauer fought and won! 44,738 views in 21 months of this upload alone, 160yrs after dying! Are there 100 others in this class.

  • @zanagorman4858
    @zanagorman4858 4 года назад +1

    speechless

  • @goodnatureart
    @goodnatureart 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @philippecolin151
    @philippecolin151 6 лет назад +1

    Superbly read, thank you

  • @Kobe29261
    @Kobe29261 8 лет назад +2

    Thank you.

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 3 года назад

    It seems to me that in our day, more than in some other days, but quite often at other times, the innate moral sense is primarily the inner guide to the temptation of profitability. If human civilizations, or perhaps even non human civilizations exist on other planets, it may well be that the universe naturally evolved to only permit these constructs to be forever both far apart and excessively prone to self destruction. They are perhaps the flower of the plant known as a planet, and like flowers, serving only a temporary purpose after which they quickly disappear. This, in turn, protects the universe from self destruction. OTOH, in a somewhat more negative mode, one might consider the blossoming of human civilizations to be the planetary equivalent of a mold or a fungus which in the long run will only mark or scar the tree.
    I think, that while it could never be perfect, this recording was really quite excellent and well worth the listen.

  • @jimjimmy7437
    @jimjimmy7437 6 лет назад

    great works

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 5 лет назад

    Context, thank you Will Durant.
    Mechanism conducts Dynamism, all combined in time-timing => "Will" meant constant change, by default.
    Then there's a repertoire of observations in the context of the era that are useful assertions today because the context is better known, so Philosophy has developed.

  • @tonyrummage5510
    @tonyrummage5510 3 года назад +2

    I have always been an ignorant man
    This series has been extremely interesting
    But alas my ignorance persists lol

  • @lastunctives2095
    @lastunctives2095 6 лет назад

    Masterly thrilling.

  • @lordtains
    @lordtains 2 года назад

    This is so damm good

  • @thetawaves48
    @thetawaves48 5 лет назад

    Read this in High School, many years ago.

  • @frankmuller596
    @frankmuller596 8 лет назад +4

    Genius Arttur

  • @sudhirpatel7620
    @sudhirpatel7620 Год назад +1

    Nature goes on forever for everyone and everything to return as everyone and everything an infinite number of times through evolutionary processes. 🌌

  • @dipschannel7867
    @dipschannel7867 6 лет назад

    i enjoyed the lecture

  • @songwritertravislee524
    @songwritertravislee524 Год назад

    Very good. Dir.

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 6 лет назад +1

    1:17:32 “..the secret of genius then lies in the clear and imparcial perception of the objective, the essential and the universal..”

  • @kalpanaram1981
    @kalpanaram1981 3 года назад +2

    It's so beautiful to listen to Rocky it's sounds like a music, all the words are beautifully pronounced thank you ❤️❤️

    • @Erin-jt9di
      @Erin-jt9di День назад

      Agreed.. without Rocky's interpretation and cadence..it wouldn't be an adventure in listening to poetry

    • @Erin-jt9di
      @Erin-jt9di День назад

      I've often thanked him through out the years

  • @annwilliams7705
    @annwilliams7705 8 лет назад

    Thanks.

  • @trfj291
    @trfj291 9 лет назад

    Great uploads! Do you have any more Durant like his History of Civilisation?

  • @nowrozraisani6920
    @nowrozraisani6920 3 года назад

    Love you.

  • @WotansKarl
    @WotansKarl Год назад

    That thumbnail is in the uncanniest of valleys

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 5 лет назад +2

    I REALLY like this guy. (other than his comments about women.

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 6 лет назад +5

    1:04:05 “The fear of death is the beginning of philosophy and the final cause of religion”

    • @noahbrown4388
      @noahbrown4388 2 года назад

      Ernest Becker - And terror management theory. We’re destined to lose the race in the end - 2nd law of thermodynamics and whatnot. But.. is that all there is??

    • @polymathable
      @polymathable 3 месяца назад

      such a gem of a line.

  • @johnabraham8297
    @johnabraham8297 3 года назад +1

    @10:10 he was absolutely alone...and between one and none, there lies the infinity.. Wow.

  • @MTM530
    @MTM530 3 года назад

    Thank you

  • @frankmuller596
    @frankmuller596 8 лет назад +1

    The world as will and idea

  • @atiqadam4267
    @atiqadam4267 4 года назад

    Nothing has profoundly changed me until I met shopenhenhoir!!! I am lost

  • @lawrence9506
    @lawrence9506 6 лет назад +30

    Schopenhauer was very far ahead of his time where humans were viewed as glorious creations of a benevolent God. Being human is not a wonderful gift of joy.

    • @jonasdamion1627
      @jonasdamion1627 5 лет назад +2

      it can be though, which means that it can be even more, which mean it can be ...? how much? You could be christ..

    • @Infamous41
      @Infamous41 5 лет назад +2

      He was far behind in time he was prematurely a philosopher or a man 8n the wrong times

    • @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676
      @napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 4 года назад +3

      @@Infamous41
      As a man who has studied this time period very thoroughly, I can tell you
      He was Far Far Ahead of his time.
      Not perfect, but ahead of most others at the time.

  • @johnmatheson2760
    @johnmatheson2760 6 лет назад

    I am a realist, but there is so much here which is good.

  • @HughMorristheJoker
    @HughMorristheJoker 2 месяца назад

    The greatest!

  • @mastuerzo8559
    @mastuerzo8559 6 лет назад +1

    1:11:07 “..so philosophy purifies the will but philosophy is to be understood as experience and thought not as mere reading or passive study ..”

  • @fatihsultanmehmet7204
    @fatihsultanmehmet7204 7 лет назад

    thanks

  • @franosbornblaschke3694
    @franosbornblaschke3694 Год назад +1

    Cranky fellow, but an amazing sense of humor.

  • @EarthAngel504
    @EarthAngel504 8 лет назад +35

    Schopenhauer was a very very wise man regarding women

    • @michaelleblanc7283
      @michaelleblanc7283 7 лет назад +2

      EarthAngel_A.i. : If you would like to hear the same thing presented in another way, have a listen to Henry Lewis Mencken's essay 'In Defense of Women'.
      Mencken certainly must have been well aware of Schopenhauerbut took it much further and in a way you (or anyone else comming across this message) will find most interesting.
      VIP - do not be discouraged by his first couple of chapters . . . he's 'baiting the trap'.
      librivox.org/in-defense-of-women-by-hl-mencken/

  • @skstan1965
    @skstan1965 9 лет назад +1

    1:03 Fear of death is the beginning of philosophy, and of religion.
    1:06 Even as the rainbow endures however fast the drops that supports it may chance to fall.