I feel like I'm loosing my fucking mind! Why is Disney ruining marvel and Star wars! This woke shit is killing me! I want good movies again. I'm afraid to watch guardians, if that goes woke I might have a stroke. FUCK YOU DISNEY!
Do you think the writer's strike will effect performative diversity? I'm hoping tv and cinema will become less diverse. But i fear the opposite will happen.
And despite that this boy was just an empty occurence whom the others barely interacted with. "Wendy and her siblings" wasted no time to get to know any of these or the living circumstances the kids had. Nor did they care apparently? Am still trying to live down that they made the croc with a clock a comedy routine with the background music.
Now it would have been hilarious if they had referenced that in the movie by saying something like girls are too smart to get lost and one of the girls shouting "no we're not". Could have been a fun tongue and cheek moment, but if course they wouldn't do that
Not going to lie....... Peter is kind of a d*ck in the book. He's a d*ck in the original cartoon. He only comes to Wendy's house because she tells stories about him.
@@reginaphalange9417 More like they just wanted to "fix" every issue they had with the previous movie and did not care what the outcome would have been.
Don't you find it sad that Wendy's happy thoughts about growing up are only the ''feminist'' possibilities? Finishing school, flying a plane (probably in a war, what the fuck Wendy?), being a writer, and then dying alone. She doesn't think about starting a family. Hell, she doesn't even think about spending time with her brothers who apparently were the reason why she did a 180 about growing up in the first place! Because she has to be mature and take care of them while they're alone!
The irony is that if male characters have scenes like this, they are shown fulfilled family lives. Take the ending of Bioshock, where the protagonist raises the Little Sisters he saved, who all have fulfilled lives on their own and will be with him when he dies. Or the episode The Inner Light from Star Trek: Next Generation where Picard experienced an entire life on a doomed planet. Or the Adventure time Episode Puhoy (the Pillow World one), which basically the same premise.
Whoulda thunk it that stripping a female character of all NATURAL aspects and components that make her uniquely feminine (eg., falling in love with the opposite sex, starting a family) in order to perpetuate the postmodern-- if not a little bit toxic-- myth of independent feminism would....backfire?? 🙄 boy, current outputs of modern entertainment truly are absolute fucking dogshit. There's no hope.
Tolkien pretty much predicted this modern 'deconstructive' trend. Evil cannot create life: only twist, corrupt or wraith that which already exists into an unrecognizable, yet horrifying state.
Having lost girls literally defeats the purpose of Wendy going too Neverland as Pan brought her too Neverland too be something of a maternal example for them
They ruined both Wendy and Peter. He is a total jerk that they basically throw away by the end. Wendy is also a jerk who we're supposed to care about simply because shes a girl. And yet, Wendy was much stronger as a mother-figure. The Lost Boys basically turned their backs on Peter to hear Wendy tell them a story. They suddenly respected the feminine Wendy more than their god, Peter Pan
@@darrengordon-hill Spoken like someone who's never felt nostalgic about anything 😅. Sry, but seriously, good childhood are sometimes hard to come by and sometimes a certain story can resonate so much with you that you can't help but feel disappointed if it's changed just because.
Wendy is a character that I cared for and rooted for she’s a much stronger character and she’s much more active and she’s still kind and caring and compassionate even going so far as to sacrifice herself and walk the plank to save her brothers and the lost boys showing how much she cares about them especially her brothers
@@eamonclark4952 Exactly. When mother and Nanna weren't around, Wendy instantly became an authority. She hardly ever thought about herself. She actually cared about keeping her brothers safe and on course
@@vertigo2894 You did read the part where I said that they didn't focus on the writing right? My point: was if they spent time on the actual writing and talent of the actors rather then checking boxes the movie wouldn't have sucked.
@@joeyellis850 No I didn't miss anything. You can have a diverse cast and a good story, one doesn't affect the other, only in your head. You are the one bothered by diversity.
@@vertigo2894 I'm bothered by diversity when it doesn't make sense. Having girls as members of the 'Lost Boys' doesn't make sense. When I saw that, it knocked me right out of the story. I've seen five or six versions of the story of Peter Pan some live and some animated and as out there as they were - none were stupid enough to mess with that. I didn't care about the race swapping here and there. But having girls be 'Lost Boys' made Wendy's presence in the film not what it should have been.
How do you fix Tigerlily and the Native American Neverland tribe? How about have them help Peter, Wendy and the Lost boys fight Hook and his pirates? Have them be the cavalry when it looks like Peter and his friends will lose? This is writing 101...jeez. What would I do? Have the pirates kidnap Tiger Lily, Peter and Wendy. Have Tigerlily escape and promise to find help, right? Sound a bit better than what they did? Hook and Peter's rivalry? Sure, offer up the idea that Hook was a Lost Boy but have him WANT to join the pirates instead of stick with Peter. I mean come on Disney!
@@internetkurator9256 Given this being a Disney product that doesn't need to happen. Remember, in Collodi's stories Pinocchio is an amoral, toxic brat, the exact opposite of how Disney adapted the character.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU WEIRDOS!! Do I need piss in your coffee for you to appreciate water???? So if these shows were NEVER REMADE.... you WOULDN'T appreciate the originals??? Do you need shitty cover bands to "make you appreciate" The Beatlea/Nirvana? I rewatched BTTF without need for a "race/gender swapped remake all about Jennifer" ...but then, I'm weird...
I love that they got rid of Wendy's gentle, nurturing personality that taught the lost boys about how important and natural it was to grow up. Which led the change in them. I adore how they got rid of the fact that the reason there were no girls who were lost was because girls were too smart to get lost. I love that they made everyone much less likable versions of themselves, even when the try to make hook more a more tragic character, all they manage to do is destroy Peter's character without improving Hook at all. Why does Disney think "modern audiences" want terribly written stories with forced diversity and bad messages that don't really stand the test of time like the original ones did? I'm sorry, but nothing in this movie was inspired. I was bored throughout the entire thing. Law's performance was great, but it's not enough to save this movie. Tinkerbell had no real personality- even Peter apparently can't understand her anymore despite them having been friends for many, many years. Wendy, of course, can take on full grown men in actual sword fights because she pretend dueled with her little brothers with wooden swords. Tiger Lily insists on speaking her native language, even to people who don't understand it-when she knows English and knows that they can't speak her language. This movie is very bland. Neverland is missing pretty much all of its charm, and there's very little color in this movie. Also, I wasn't convinced Tinkerbell actually cared about anything happening even in scenes where it's assumed she'd be upset. They made Peter much less charming, not only due to the acting, but just the actions and dialogue given to the character. Wendy had no real reason to slap him like that, but it's framed like she's in the right because i don't know, go girlboss Wendy with her happy thoughts of growing old and dying alone. Seriously. In the novel, Barrie explains that the Lost Boys are boys who fell out of their prams while their nannies were looking the other way, in places such as Kensington Gardens. After going unclaimed for seven days, they are whisked off to Neverland, where they live with Peter Pan. There are no "Lost Girls", because (as Peter explains) girls are too clever to be lost in this manner.
I feel modern audiences are just as much to blame for this stupid film and all the other live action remakes. They keep buying tickets to watch these films in cinemas or buying the dvds and throwing all their money at Disney. This is only encouraging Disney to make more awful remakes and exploit the Nostalgia. Think with your wallet and stop wasting money on this nonsense
@@zemox2534in this case it went straight to Disney Plus without Theater release, at least thats what I found😅 on Google. ( for Germany) Maybe bc they have feared it would 💣?
Also if I remember, the lost boys were a metaphor of the times. Basically orphans with no homes turned to a life of crime. Oliver Twist is a great example. Boys were much more likely to become “lost” because girls were much more likely to be adopted. They were also considered boys because they often died before becoming adults. Wendy brought the solution: A loving and caring mother. If the boys stayed in Neverland, it was only a matter of time until Hook claimed them.
All it says is that he thins them out, not kill them. He either flies them back to where he found them or sends them off somewhere else. But how can they grow while Peter stays young makes no sense. Neverland is where children never grow up.
There's a very real implication of death when you say you're "thinning out" a group of living beings. Otherwise you could say you're returning or releasing them.
@@Disneyfan82 that's a new thing, where no one grows up in Neverland. Peter was the only one who never grew up, thus leading to the speculation that he is literally a spirit, much like Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians. He was also the only one who didn't need pixie dust to fly.
Peter being a dick and Hook being somewhat sympathetic isnt a new idea either, there was a literal television show that did that exact thing with both characters.
I thought Jason Isaacs' 2003 version of Hook had his moments of sympathy too. He was a thorough villain, of course, but we did see him heartbroken at the realization that Peter had found his Wendy, yet he was all alone. That sense of loneliness broke through a few times and gave him a momentary pathos. We weren't supposed to root for him, but it made him a bit more complex, which is proper because he is an adult, and life becomes more complex when you grow up.
This would work better if they took the same route Once Upon a Time did and made Peter a fearsome evil entity that keeps the Lost Boys as mind-controlled slaves to his will.
I disagree about the ind¡ans in the original animated one: At that time kids wanted to be pirates or cowboys and k¡ll ind¡ans. In the movie the pirates are bad guys that hurt kids and the ind¡ans saved the kids and make them part of their tribe. They changed the idea of them been bad and dangerours. But this new version... Man, is trash compared with the 2003 version with Jason Isaacs. That movie is awesome, the characters are on point and is beautiful. What makes me laugh is that, they wanted to make themselves "woke" by putting girls in the lost boys, not knowing (because no one in the writing table read the book) that, is stablished that the girls are too clever to get lost. They are saying that, those 3 especific girls are stup¡d 🤣🤣
Yeah, I don't think I've actually heard any native person I know think of the Peter Pan versions as bad or offensive. It's just a simplistic interpretation of "Indians" because the story is seen through the lens of a child. So there's no complexity or nuance about race and culture. It's not like the Indians are portrayed as bad, they're just stereotypical to what a child of that time period would think of them as.
@@alzaelnext638 That's literally what I thought when watching the original. They were stereotyped based on how young children of that time period would have imagined them when playing games like cowboys vs Indians. They were Indians in Neverland, not the real world.
I'm half Native American and it's always been fun to quote that ridiculous song from Peter Pan ;D WHAT MAKES THE RED MAN REDDDDDDD?! Personally, I don't see anything wrong with their depictions and you've got to especially consider that this is from a dated viewpoint of white Europeans, form whom Natives were a genuine mystery and curiosity. Add on the childish lense to the whole thing and I could not possibly be bothered. Even in negative contexts, it's important to have time capsules, where they exist, that preserve something of the past even if it *wasn't* flattering - if it suits the time period and the perspective it's from, why not utilize it? It would be like going back and re-writing or totally altering To Kill a Mockingbird - it's an extreme example, but you get what I mean. If you're altering the source material, what's the point? Especially if you make it utterly unrecognizable and none of the previous heart, story or message is left then what was the whole endeavor for anyway? That's something the leftists are never going to get - the value of different perspectives and engaging with the reality of them, even if they're not 100% your cup of tea or something you're even comfortable with. For whatever failings Peter Pan could have through a modern lense, there was still plenty about it that weathers the ages *just* fine and that should have been preserved. It all should have been preserved.
Changing the portrayal of Indians is defensible, but this? Between the updated Tiger Lily and the girl that obliterated a Predator in Prey, it’s no wonder Native American women conquered and colonized Europe so easily!
So er... if they wanted more girl power... instead of actively removing some female characters from the og aka The Mermaids. You could just had them play a slightly bigger/supporting role. Also the Mermaid scene itself is vastly important but I talked about that in other comments on other reviews. You could introduce them and than they could go and find the location of where Hook has Wendy's brothers or have them led the crocodile towards Hook by baiting it? Why I'm even trying to get Disney writers to understand basic story telling and life lessons in stories is beyond me. Another thing Disney stop removing negative traits from characters. Tinkerbell getting jealous is a life lesson to kids. It's to show what happens if you get too jealous and the consequences of it. All of us likely got or will get jealous of someone or something in our lifetime. It also gives Tinkerbell a character arc and shows that you can make up for making bad decisions. Not a single human on this planet is perfect and I despise how so many Disney characters are almost inhumanly perfect.
So Peter Pan goes from a fun loving mischievous character who chases his own shadow to a psycho who cuts of his best friends hand after having a falling out… Wendy goes from a motherly caring figure to a Mary sue fighting character that bitch slaps Peter Pan The lost boys go from boys who have fun to boys and girls who are miserable Yep lots of good changes there…
Like the smell of a dumpster fire, like the colors of a poisonous frog, the crap level of this movie was like a parade of clowns honking their noses in a terrible symphony.
Velma, Willow, Star Wars, HeMan, Indiana Jones, James Bond, Ghostbusters, Batwoman, Rings of Power, Resident Evil, The Matrix, Jurassic Park, Star Trek, Terminator, Charlie's Angels, and countless others; maybe they were ALWAYS intended as mean-spirited attacks and soulless remakes. Their purposes were ALWAYS about breaking and twisting the IP beyond recognition.
I'd like to go out with a counter group to the Writer's Guild picket line with my own signs and placards with photos of all these woke movies and TV shows on it, and the words "Guild writers scripted all of these. You don't deserve raises".
I can see it now. Disney will remake this movie again in 2033 and it will be called "Wendy and Tinker Bell and Tiger Lily" ("and Peter" in the smallest font possible). In 2033, all the Lost Boys will be girls. Peter will be the only boy as Captain Hook will just be him in disguise, symbolizing the patriarchy.
I never cared about Peter Pan. I remember hating Hook and the animated Disney film was just something my parents made me watch because they felt they had to. That said, learning the author’s reason for writing the story and seeing hiw this film destroys every intention the author has…. This should be illegal. There should be laws against corrupting someone else’s creative property, especially when that person is no longer alive.
I like how even people who have no interest in the story of Peter Pan can see how badly off the mark this trash is. Whoever these people are, they're writing stories so bad that even people who aren't fans could do a more inspired job of remaking the movie!😂 these modern day film makers are pathetic
If you want a good Live Action Peter Pan, just watch the 2003 Universal film. It’s more respectful of the source material while adding in some early modernism for audiences of those times. I’d explain more, but you’ll have to watch it just to get the memories of this awful woke garbage out of your head. Nuff said.
@@MrScaryPasta Perfect example being 2003 Wendy was more tomboyish than 1953 Wendy but still had those essential feminine qualities that made her the mother the Lost Boys needed.
The way they did Neverland and Peter in Once Upon A Time is literally the twist in this movie with Peter being a massive douche but it's actually done well.
Totally disagree with anything being changed from the original source for a "modern audience." That's exactly how we got in this mess. These depictions are from a different time, and even if I don't agree with those depictions now (spoiler alert: I don't agree with those depictions), that doesn't mean they should be changed as it tells us about what was in the minds of people from that period. So no, you don't get to "update certain things" just because you disagree with it
It's like trying to change everything we learned in History class. We may not like everything that happened long ago, but that's why you call learning from the mistakes of the past
@@Disneyfan82 I think rewriting history today is far less effective than it used to be due to the Internet. When I was at school there was exactly zero alternative information to what my teachers told me. Sure, I could get a book, but what kid does that, and books have the be published so they can be controlled. Today, anyone can have an opinion on the Internet, and although that means a lot of misinformation, all the misinformation does is makes people question everything they hear, and having people question everything is game over for people trying to rewrite history. This is not the situation today, since social media and online information is new enough that some people do not use it, or use it blindly, but give it time. It's natural for teens to believe any information they learn away from adults, but as they pass 18 and start to incur responsibilities they start to question things more and more. The problem social media has today is that it's dominated by the young and clueless because they always adapt to new technology first, but in time that will shift. Honestly, I think all the people that push extreme world views and misleading information in either direction are crapping themselves, or they should be. The hysteria of today is like the last gasp of the grifters and frauds.
I'll stick to the highly entertaining, far superior 2003 _Peter Pan,_ with Jason Isaacs playing the _definitive_ cinematic portrayal of Captain Hook, fun Richard Briars as Smee, and the lovely and talented Rachel Hurd-Wood as Wendy...
I'll tell you the reason an update of this really needs to change a lot more than they did, in particular if they want to be "inclusive." Peter Pan was written at a time when the pop culture of the day had little boys dreaming about pirates and Indians as the height of adventure. Even if they do it as a period piece, that connection is entirely lost on *actual* modern audiences. Simply put, if they want to update Peter Pan they've got to jump it to a more modern time, and then completely rebuild Neverland around what kids fantasize about *today*, not two hundred years ago. It just gets worse as time advances.
Honestly that could work. Just change the setting to a mix of fantasy and sci-fi like the treasure planet movie Disney made so many years ago. Made the lost boys escape to never land because they want to scape things like school or homework. Update some other things and I they they could have made a movie that at least looks visually interesting.
@@juan0808 To be honest writing Peter Pan as a cyberpunk story would surprisingly work pretty well as a black mirror sorta episode, I think. Neverland could be virtual. An actual place someone can pretend to be 10 forever.
@@BlazingOwnager At which point, why bother updating Peter Pan? Leave it as it is. Write new work something I suspect these writers, who love updating old works , cannot do.
This proves that the writers will fail miserably definitely hurting the one percent of good writers and heaven help us with whatever is left in the industry coming forward after the strike.
Neverland is also a childish place. The pirates are as a child would imagine them. The Indians are as a child might imagine them. As are the mermaids and everything else. All those things take on lives of their own beyond that, or course, but that childish lens is the origin of them.
Consider this idea for a new look at peter pan Jack frost and "to dream of you" Peter pan and the lost boys are NOT "kids that don't want to grow up" they are "kids that can't grow up". Never land is "purgatory", a place kids souls come play, until they are ready to "grow up", and are sent to their heaven
Yeah, this comes across as "content by committee" that was then filtered through "focus groups" so they could run it by the "sensitivity readers" until any and all traces of actual entertainment were thoroughly erased. In other words, a Disney project.
After that I think we all need to forgive 2015's Pan..... The only nice character here was Jude Law's Hook even if he was not used properly.... Well here goes another childhood classic
FUCK NO!! But then, he'd have to get a real job instead of bitching about teen CWs shows.. I for one am SHOCKED at the outrage about this great update for a modern audience...
My big problem with this movie was Why Does Neverland Look So Empty? It's an enchanted magical island? Where was the magic, or the forest? The fairies, the mermaids, the lush strange plants and animals?
Tinker Bell is boring, Peter Pan is a dull menace, Wendy is very unlikable and Hook(the best actor) feels... smaller than life. Overall, normal modern Disney adaptation.
No,,, Just no... the entire reason Peter got Wendy was to have a mother for the lost boys. He wouldn't need a girl to play mother to them IF HE ALREADY HAD A GIRL TO PLAY MOTHER TO THEM!!!
The irony of Wendy seeing her future life is that if male characters have a montage like this, they are shown fulfilled family lives. Take the ending of Bioshock, where the protagonist raises the Little Sisters he saved, who all have fulfilled lives on their own and will be with him when he dies. Or the episode The Inner Light from Star Trek: Next Generation where Picard experienced an entire life on a doomed planet. Or the Adventure time Episode Puhoy (the Pillow World one), which basically the same premise.
Yeah. Hook’s line: “I have no happy thoughts” hit me right in the gut. I have dysthymia with PTSD which is basically perma-depression (not so bad you cannot get out of bed, but basically always there in the background) so Hook looking deep into his soul and unable to come up with a single happy thought to LITERALLY save his life was like a dagger in my heart. I could empathize with that feeling very deeply and the fact the movie just kind of dropped that plot as quickly as it was brought up was like spitting in the face of all those of us suffering from extreme anxiety and depression. And on top of all that, it looked for a second like Peter was actually going to have a defining character moment as his face all of a sudden got very upset as if he was just starting to realize how awful of a person he was and how much his actions ruined the life of this man; only for Wendy to interrupt that moment and demand to go home. F*** Wendy and the writers who wrote her to be such a selfish c***. Sorry for the language, but they literally could have totally redeemed the film right there had they gone in the direction that it looked like they were going to go, and instead took a giant s*** on the audience to have yet another ‘girl boss’ moment.
It's not fair what happened to Wendy's character... It's not fair that Disney didn't care about the original source material... The lost boys were all boys for a reason (it's in the book) Wendy's character was feminine and motherly for a reason... Why is Disney so bent on ruining classics nowadays?? 😢
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Awesome new film review, Thorias. personally I will stick with 1991's Hook. 2011's Neverland prequel tv mini series & the story arc in Once Upon a Time series 3. :)
Good mention@@elperrodelautumo7511, I used to like that version. but as I have got older. I like it less & less. but if you still like it, thats cool. I do like the Peter Pan Live musical, though. starring Allison Williams as Peter Pan & Christopher Walken as Captain Hook. :)
Let's face it. At this point they're probably making these remakes just to piss us off and get even more viewings this way. Most of us like roasting the shit out of these remakes [at least I do] and this still gives them money. They get all this cash, and they don't even need to be creative. We are falling right into their trap.
I’m under the impression it isn’t about the money but about THUH MESSAGE and “fixing” the past. No way a billion dollar entity like Disney keeps failing on purpose if they intended to release quality products.
MISERY JUNKIES!! Million views for TCD bitching about this!! Y'all need to grow up!!! Bitching about Scooby-Doo and other cartoons as adults... whining about Willow... JESUS WEPT!!!! Have YOU GUYS considered MAKING ORIGINAL CONTENT??? NAH!! Just bitch, episode after season after movie...
Honestly, if you arent going to stay true to the Disney cartoon, I'd love an actual true adaptation of the book, where Pan is basically an amoral Fey Godling that "modifies" his Lost Boys to better fit through the knot holes and "takes a walk" with the ones who decided to miss thier mothers or grow up and always came back alone.
I honestly would have not minded there being other races of kids in the "Lost Boys" group as long as they were _all_ BOYS; I mean we of course have Wendy and Tinkerbell plus Tiger Lilly so there's your female inclusion, I haven't seen this movie and doubt I ever will but from what I heard they for some reason completly removed the mermaids from it.
Perfectly and well said! I couldn't help but to nod my head and complain alongside you throughout the entire video. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED your ideas! I'd love to see or read your rendition of Peter Pan.
Why the hell did Disney even decide to remake Peter pan? I never watched that movie as a kid. It was never really that popular! I never heard any of my friends say anything about this movie as a kid.
This Peter Pan is a bigger a-hole than the one from Once Upon a Time and that one is a straight-up villain, who kidnaps children like the Pied Piper and manipulates them into thinking, that they are unloved by their parents, so he can sacrifice one of them to become immortal. He is also very charismatic and objectively hot, even though it's all very over the top and edgy.
I can’t un-see Tinkerbell’s constant duck face Wendy was brought to be the lost boys mother. They’re are girls in the lost boys, making Wendy’s reason to come to neverland is pointless now.
And was there a Lost Boy with Down Syndrome or did I just imagine that?
I feel like I'm loosing my fucking mind! Why is Disney ruining marvel and Star wars! This woke shit is killing me! I want good movies again. I'm afraid to watch guardians, if that goes woke I might have a stroke. FUCK YOU DISNEY!
The fact that the writers can't understand the morality of Peter's actions really shows you what horrible hypocrites these 'creatives' are nowadays.
Do you think the writer's strike will effect performative diversity? I'm hoping tv and cinema will become less diverse. But i fear the opposite will happen.
And despite that this boy was just an empty occurence whom the others barely interacted with. "Wendy and her siblings" wasted no time to get to know any of these or the living circumstances the kids had. Nor did they care apparently?
Am still trying to live down that they made the croc with a clock a comedy routine with the background music.
I believe a few are at least trans, another one who's merely a cross dresser. I wish Dylan Mulvaney had a cameo role.
The Lost Boys were all boys because girls were too clever to get lost.
That's from the original writings.
And Modern Disney made both the lost girls black. The implication there is wildly racist. Fuck Disney
Oh the irony is thick here
I guess this script proves that girls arent as clever as they thought.
They were, in 2023 I’d have made the lost girls and leave the boys out
Now it would have been hilarious if they had referenced that in the movie by saying something like girls are too smart to get lost and one of the girls shouting "no we're not". Could have been a fun tongue and cheek moment, but if course they wouldn't do that
Yeah, the only reason Peter is even in the title is to get people to watch. He's the villain and Wendy is Mary Sue.
Not going to lie....... Peter is kind of a d*ck in the book. He's a d*ck in the original cartoon. He only comes to Wendy's house because she tells stories about him.
Once upon a time did the villain Peter Pan better!
this, it's clear that they wanted to do another dull girl boss movie centered on Wendy, but they had to keep Peter Pan and that pissed them off
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More like they just wanted to "fix" every issue they had with the previous movie and did not care what the outcome would have been.
Peter Pan DOES work way better as a twisted villain, but this movie is dumb.
Don't you find it sad that Wendy's happy thoughts about growing up are only the ''feminist'' possibilities? Finishing school, flying a plane (probably in a war, what the fuck Wendy?), being a writer, and then dying alone. She doesn't think about starting a family. Hell, she doesn't even think about spending time with her brothers who apparently were the reason why she did a 180 about growing up in the first place! Because she has to be mature and take care of them while they're alone!
Worse. The airplane hadn't been invented by the year the story is set in, so she wouldn't know what it was!
LMAO. It's true. She will die alone and independent. Apparently she wont even die with cats. How sad
@@GoblinKnightLeo LMAO. That's true too
The irony is that if male characters have scenes like this, they are shown fulfilled family lives.
Take the ending of Bioshock, where the protagonist raises the Little Sisters he saved, who all have fulfilled lives on their own and will be with him when he dies.
Or the episode The Inner Light from Star Trek: Next Generation where Picard experienced an entire life on a doomed planet. Or the Adventure time Episode Puhoy (the Pillow World one), which basically the same premise.
Whoulda thunk it that stripping a female character of all NATURAL aspects and components that make her uniquely feminine (eg., falling in love with the opposite sex, starting a family) in order to perpetuate the postmodern-- if not a little bit toxic-- myth of independent feminism would....backfire?? 🙄 boy, current outputs of modern entertainment truly are absolute fucking dogshit. There's no hope.
Tolkien pretty much predicted this modern 'deconstructive' trend. Evil cannot create life: only twist, corrupt or wraith that which already exists into an unrecognizable, yet horrifying state.
Which is all the more reason why it will fail
Having lost girls literally defeats the purpose of Wendy going too Neverland as Pan brought her too Neverland too be something of a maternal example for them
This is what you get if the creators don't even know the source material they are farming money and agenda from
Also girls were too smart to get lost that's why there were no lost girls.
EXACTLY!!! THANK YOU, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING 😮
@@videon6134yeah! This is explained in the book and everything...
They ruined both Wendy and Peter. He is a total jerk that they basically throw away by the end. Wendy is also a jerk who we're supposed to care about simply because shes a girl.
And yet, Wendy was much stronger as a mother-figure. The Lost Boys basically turned their backs on Peter to hear Wendy tell them a story. They suddenly respected the feminine Wendy more than their god, Peter Pan
I hate wokes to death
How can you "ruin" Peter Pan?
Better yet... how can a movie "ruin your childhood"?
@@darrengordon-hill Spoken like someone who's never felt nostalgic about anything 😅. Sry, but seriously, good childhood are sometimes hard to come by and sometimes a certain story can resonate so much with you that you can't help but feel disappointed if it's changed just because.
Wendy is a character that I cared for and rooted for she’s a much stronger character and she’s much more active and she’s still kind and caring and compassionate even going so far as to sacrifice herself and walk the plank to save her brothers and the lost boys showing how much she cares about them especially her brothers
@@eamonclark4952 Exactly. When mother and Nanna weren't around, Wendy instantly became an authority. She hardly ever thought about herself. She actually cared about keeping her brothers safe and on course
Disney calling girls dumb by adding girls in Lost Boys is very funny for me. (If we stick to the source material)
I guarantee you no one involved in the making of this has ever read the original book.
@@blodguizerI've original book is best my childhood
@@leeallenbeal Are you involved in the making of the film?
Yep, Disney tried so hard to be woke, but... Nope.😂😂😂😂😂
Peter Pan and Wendy is a perfect example of what happens when you focus on diversity and identity politics over talent and writing.
You people are obsessed with race. It was bad cause the writing is bad, not cause it's diverse.
@@vertigo2894 You did read the part where I said that they didn't focus on the writing right? My point: was if they spent time on the actual writing and talent of the actors rather then checking boxes the movie wouldn't have sucked.
@@joeyellis850 No I didn't miss anything. You can have a diverse cast and a good story, one doesn't affect the other, only in your head. You are the one bothered by diversity.
@@vertigo2894 I'm bothered by diversity when it doesn't make sense. Having girls as members of the 'Lost Boys' doesn't make sense. When I saw that, it knocked me right out of the story. I've seen five or six versions of the story of Peter Pan some live and some animated and as out there as they were - none were stupid enough to mess with that. I didn't care about the race swapping here and there. But having girls be 'Lost Boys' made Wendy's presence in the film not what it should have been.
@@joeyellis850 I agree about the lost boys.
How do you fix Tigerlily and the Native American Neverland tribe? How about have them help Peter, Wendy and the Lost boys fight Hook and his pirates? Have them be the cavalry when it looks like Peter and his friends will lose? This is writing 101...jeez. What would I do? Have the pirates kidnap Tiger Lily, Peter and Wendy. Have Tigerlily escape and promise to find help, right? Sound a bit better than what they did? Hook and Peter's rivalry? Sure, offer up the idea that Hook was a Lost Boy but have him WANT to join the pirates instead of stick with Peter. I mean come on Disney!
In novel that actually happens... however the pirates win.
Bro, Smee being Hooks father figure made my head spin. What the fuck were they thinking
@@internetkurator9256 Given this being a Disney product that doesn't need to happen. Remember, in Collodi's stories Pinocchio is an amoral, toxic brat, the exact opposite of how Disney adapted the character.
This and the Pinocchio remake did one good thing. They both made me appreciate and want to re-watch the original animated movies.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOU WEIRDOS!!
Do I need piss in your coffee for you to appreciate water????
So if these shows were NEVER REMADE.... you WOULDN'T appreciate the originals???
Do you need shitty cover bands to "make you appreciate" The Beatlea/Nirvana?
I rewatched BTTF without need for a "race/gender swapped remake all about Jennifer"
...but then, I'm weird...
Nothing beats the originals
All the Disney remakes, make us want to re-watch the original animated movies.
@@coldmaster613 true
@@yohannbiimu Physical media is the way to go
I love that they got rid of Wendy's gentle, nurturing personality that taught the lost boys about how important and natural it was to grow up. Which led the change in them. I adore how they got rid of the fact that the reason there were no girls who were lost was because girls were too smart to get lost. I love that they made everyone much less likable versions of themselves, even when the try to make hook more a more tragic character, all they manage to do is destroy Peter's character without improving Hook at all.
Why does Disney think "modern audiences" want terribly written stories with forced diversity and bad messages that don't really stand the test of time like the original ones did?
I'm sorry, but nothing in this movie was inspired. I was bored throughout the entire thing. Law's performance was great, but it's not enough to save this movie. Tinkerbell had no real personality- even Peter apparently can't understand her anymore despite them having been friends for many, many years. Wendy, of course, can take on full grown men in actual sword fights because she pretend dueled with her little brothers with wooden swords. Tiger Lily insists on speaking her native language, even to people who don't understand it-when she knows English and knows that they can't speak her language.
This movie is very bland. Neverland is missing pretty much all of its charm, and there's very little color in this movie. Also, I wasn't convinced Tinkerbell actually cared about anything happening even in scenes where it's assumed she'd be upset. They made Peter much less charming, not only due to the acting, but just the actions and dialogue given to the character. Wendy had no real reason to slap him like that, but it's framed like she's in the right because i don't know, go girlboss Wendy with her happy thoughts of growing old and dying alone.
Seriously. In the novel, Barrie explains that the Lost Boys are boys who fell out of their prams while their nannies were looking the other way, in places such as Kensington Gardens. After going unclaimed for seven days, they are whisked off to Neverland, where they live with Peter Pan. There are no "Lost Girls", because (as Peter explains) girls are too clever to be lost in this manner.
I feel modern audiences are just as much to blame for this stupid film and all the other live action remakes. They keep buying tickets to watch these films in cinemas or buying the dvds and throwing all their money at Disney. This is only encouraging Disney to make more awful remakes and exploit the Nostalgia. Think with your wallet and stop wasting money on this nonsense
@@zemox2534 Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't this movie bomb?
@@zemox2534in this case it went straight to Disney Plus without Theater release, at least thats what I found😅 on Google. ( for Germany) Maybe bc they have feared it would 💣?
Also if I remember, the lost boys were a metaphor of the times. Basically orphans with no homes turned to a life of crime. Oliver Twist is a great example. Boys were much more likely to become “lost” because girls were much more likely to be adopted.
They were also considered boys because they often died before becoming adults.
Wendy brought the solution: A loving and caring mother. If the boys stayed in Neverland, it was only a matter of time until Hook claimed them.
In the original story it's implied that the reason the Lost Boys never grow up is that Peter kills them when they get too old. That's twisted
All it says is that he thins them out, not kill them. He either flies them back to where he found them or sends them off somewhere else. But how can they grow while Peter stays young makes no sense. Neverland is where children never grow up.
There's a very real implication of death when you say you're "thinning out" a group of living beings. Otherwise you could say you're returning or releasing them.
@@greentiger332 Wasn't it something about cutting their legs or limbs so they don't look tall like adults?
@@Disneyfan82 that's a new thing, where no one grows up in Neverland. Peter was the only one who never grew up, thus leading to the speculation that he is literally a spirit, much like Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians. He was also the only one who didn't need pixie dust to fly.
Robin Williams "Hook" and the Peterpan arc from "Once upon a Time" are probably the best versions of peter pan I've seen.
Watch the 2003 version follows the book/play perfectly.
Could be worse. The movie could've been longer.
Peter being a dick and Hook being somewhat sympathetic isnt a new idea either, there was a literal television show that did that exact thing with both characters.
Except Once Upon a Time did it much, much better
@@KnightsRealm98They also deliberately turned Peter into a full on villain whereas here I doubt the writers even realised they made him bad.
I thought Jason Isaacs' 2003 version of Hook had his moments of sympathy too. He was a thorough villain, of course, but we did see him heartbroken at the realization that Peter had found his Wendy, yet he was all alone. That sense of loneliness broke through a few times and gave him a momentary pathos. We weren't supposed to root for him, but it made him a bit more complex, which is proper because he is an adult, and life becomes more complex when you grow up.
@@Wanda711 well. Said indeed ⭐
That was a struggle. Let's watch the animated version to get this nasty Peter Pan and Wendy out of our mind.
Pick a MEANINGFUL struggle... or just bitch about TV....
Hook is worth a rewatch too.
@@jasonjuster8388 I still enjoy Hook and happily rewatch it.
@@jasonjuster8388 Also the 2003 Universal live-action Peter Pan.
This would work better if they took the same route Once Upon a Time did and made Peter a fearsome evil entity that keeps the Lost Boys as mind-controlled slaves to his will.
The writing says a lot about the people that worked on this they need help
I thought of commenting a Peter Pan joke here..
but it would Never Land
"Not gonna let him off the hook"
I see what you did there.
I disagree about the ind¡ans in the original animated one: At that time kids wanted to be pirates or cowboys and k¡ll ind¡ans. In the movie the pirates are bad guys that hurt kids and the ind¡ans saved the kids and make them part of their tribe. They changed the idea of them been bad and dangerours.
But this new version... Man, is trash compared with the 2003 version with Jason Isaacs. That movie is awesome, the characters are on point and is beautiful.
What makes me laugh is that, they wanted to make themselves "woke" by putting girls in the lost boys, not knowing (because no one in the writing table read the book) that, is stablished that the girls are too clever to get lost. They are saying that, those 3 especific girls are stup¡d 🤣🤣
Yeah, I don't think I've actually heard any native person I know think of the Peter Pan versions as bad or offensive. It's just a simplistic interpretation of "Indians" because the story is seen through the lens of a child. So there's no complexity or nuance about race and culture.
It's not like the Indians are portrayed as bad, they're just stereotypical to what a child of that time period would think of them as.
Funny how these guys keep making themselves look more ist or stupid than the actual people they are trying to preach at.
@@alzaelnext638 Exactly. The simplicity of chilhood.
Now everything is political, even childhood.
@@alzaelnext638 That's literally what I thought when watching the original. They were stereotyped based on how young children of that time period would have imagined them when playing games like cowboys vs Indians. They were Indians in Neverland, not the real world.
I used to like being the indians in cowboys and indians because I got to pretend to wear the big headdresses and do that mouth noise.
I'm half Native American and it's always been fun to quote that ridiculous song from Peter Pan ;D WHAT MAKES THE RED MAN REDDDDDDD?!
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with their depictions and you've got to especially consider that this is from a dated viewpoint of white Europeans, form whom Natives were a genuine mystery and curiosity. Add on the childish lense to the whole thing and I could not possibly be bothered. Even in negative contexts, it's important to have time capsules, where they exist, that preserve something of the past even if it *wasn't* flattering - if it suits the time period and the perspective it's from, why not utilize it? It would be like going back and re-writing or totally altering To Kill a Mockingbird - it's an extreme example, but you get what I mean. If you're altering the source material, what's the point? Especially if you make it utterly unrecognizable and none of the previous heart, story or message is left then what was the whole endeavor for anyway?
That's something the leftists are never going to get - the value of different perspectives and engaging with the reality of them, even if they're not 100% your cup of tea or something you're even comfortable with. For whatever failings Peter Pan could have through a modern lense, there was still plenty about it that weathers the ages *just* fine and that should have been preserved. It all should have been preserved.
1991 Hook is great, but I'm more biased towards the 2003 Peter Pan.
Same! 2003 Peter Pan will always be my favorite!
I'd argue that Tokenization is just a more subtle and insidious form of racism in many ways.
Changing the portrayal of Indians is defensible, but this? Between the updated Tiger Lily and the girl that obliterated a Predator in Prey, it’s no wonder Native American women conquered and colonized Europe so easily!
So er... if they wanted more girl power... instead of actively removing some female characters from the og aka The Mermaids. You could just had them play a slightly bigger/supporting role. Also the Mermaid scene itself is vastly important but I talked about that in other comments on other reviews. You could introduce them and than they could go and find the location of where Hook has Wendy's brothers or have them led the crocodile towards Hook by baiting it? Why I'm even trying to get Disney writers to understand basic story telling and life lessons in stories is beyond me.
Another thing Disney stop removing negative traits from characters. Tinkerbell getting jealous is a life lesson to kids. It's to show what happens if you get too jealous and the consequences of it. All of us likely got or will get jealous of someone or something in our lifetime. It also gives Tinkerbell a character arc and shows that you can make up for making bad decisions. Not a single human on this planet is perfect and I despise how so many Disney characters are almost inhumanly perfect.
This is why the 2003 Peter Pan starring Jeremy Sumpter and Jeremy Irons will always be the best.
These poor children’s careers never had a chance. SMH
Peter and Hook being old friends could have been a great story. But then they would have had to focus on the male characters.
Suddenly the 2015 Pan doesn't seem so bad.
Apparently Wendy is dreaming about flying a biplane in 1904. The plane she is dreaming about doesn't exist yet. A rather forward thinker that girl.
F Wokeness!
F Disney!
F Hollywoke!
F the modern audience!
F the writers!
😤😠😡🤬👿
So Peter Pan goes from a fun loving mischievous character who chases his own shadow to a psycho who cuts of his best friends hand after having a falling out…
Wendy goes from a motherly caring figure to a Mary sue fighting character that bitch slaps Peter Pan
The lost boys go from boys who have fun to boys and girls who are miserable
Yep lots of good changes there…
A completely soulless corporate product that stripped the Peter Pan story of all of it’s heart, magic, themes, and even color.
SUCCINCT!!
No need for 20min video.
Appreciate you.
Like the smell of a dumpster fire, like the colors of a poisonous frog, the crap level of this movie was like a parade of clowns honking their noses in a terrible symphony.
The scourge of SS13.
That's a terrifying vision!!
Velma, Willow, Star Wars, HeMan, Indiana Jones, James Bond, Ghostbusters, Batwoman, Rings of Power, Resident Evil, The Matrix, Jurassic Park, Star Trek, Terminator, Charlie's Angels,
and countless others;
maybe they were ALWAYS intended as mean-spirited attacks and soulless remakes. Their purposes were ALWAYS about breaking and twisting the IP beyond recognition.
Can proudly say I haven't seen any of the remakes. Give me freshness and originality or no money for you.
Thanks for the review T.
The animation and Hook are my 2 definitive favorites in telling the story of Peter Pan.
Edit: Fox's Peter Pan & The Pirates is another good one too.
Old lady: Who are you?
Wendy: Wendy.
Old lady: Wendy Who?
Wendy: …Wendy Pan
I'd like to go out with a counter group to the Writer's Guild picket line with my own signs and placards with photos of all these woke movies and TV shows on it, and the words "Guild writers scripted all of these. You don't deserve raises".
I'm surprised Disney didn't do like that studio did with the Gretal and Hansel movie a few years back and name it Wendy and Peter.
What's really funny is that they stole the whole Hook being the first lost boy from Once Upon a Time on ABC 😂
Now you know why they dumped it on Disney+.
I can see it now. Disney will remake this movie again in 2033 and it will be called "Wendy and Tinker Bell and Tiger Lily" ("and Peter" in the smallest font possible). In 2033, all the Lost Boys will be girls. Peter will be the only boy as Captain Hook will just be him in disguise, symbolizing the patriarchy.
This probably sounded funnier in your head...
The Story could work ...
Peter getting Captured and the Girls need to save him
BUT current media would f it up
I never cared about Peter Pan. I remember hating Hook and the animated Disney film was just something my parents made me watch because they felt they had to. That said, learning the author’s reason for writing the story and seeing hiw this film destroys every intention the author has…. This should be illegal. There should be laws against corrupting someone else’s creative property, especially when that person is no longer alive.
"Ownership"
I often wonder how/why ANY will is upheld... cos they're dead
I like how even people who have no interest in the story of Peter Pan can see how badly off the mark this trash is. Whoever these people are, they're writing stories so bad that even people who aren't fans could do a more inspired job of remaking the movie!😂 these modern day film makers are pathetic
Isn't peter pan in the public domain though?
If you want a good Live Action Peter Pan, just watch the 2003 Universal film. It’s more respectful of the source material while adding in some early modernism for audiences of those times. I’d explain more, but you’ll have to watch it just to get the memories of this awful woke garbage out of your head. Nuff said.
Technically speaking wasn't that movie updated for modern audiences at that time?
@@derrickcrawford1081
That’s what I said. But it was better done.
@@MrScaryPasta Perfect example being 2003 Wendy was more tomboyish than 1953 Wendy but still had those essential feminine qualities that made her the mother the Lost Boys needed.
Hard agree.
@@MrScaryPasta far better done.
"I don't normally do spoilers, but you shouldn't see this movie, so here we go"
- TU, 2023
"For a modern audience" is code for "Made for 1% of Twitter".
Made for modern Audiences =...Identify Politics...=..it will SUCK!
I wonder why they didn’t call this next movie “The Little Mermaid & Eric”
The reason girls weren’t in the lost boys is that they were too smart to get lost. But they didn’t read the source material…
If ONE MORE of you cunts writes this same sentence like you're some deep knowledge of the property....
The way they did Neverland and Peter in Once Upon A Time is literally the twist in this movie with Peter being a massive douche but it's actually done well.
Wendy becomes a wife and mother at the end of Peter Pan. Her daughter’s name is Jane. Nice of Disney to totally ignore source material. 🤦🏻♀️
Clean your eyes, ears and hearts with the 2003 Peter Pan. Very faithful, acting and visuals are amazing. And score is phenomenonal.
Thanks for taking the hit on this one.
The amount of hits he's took for us is outstandin haha
Totally disagree with anything being changed from the original source for a "modern audience." That's exactly how we got in this mess. These depictions are from a different time, and even if I don't agree with those depictions now (spoiler alert: I don't agree with those depictions), that doesn't mean they should be changed as it tells us about what was in the minds of people from that period. So no, you don't get to "update certain things" just because you disagree with it
Especially when doing so reduces the characters to ciphers.
It's like trying to change everything we learned in History class. We may not like everything that happened long ago, but that's why you call learning from the mistakes of the past
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Those who rewrite history are making sure people do not know it.
@@garrick3727 Is there no end to this injustice? Can we not stop them trying to change history and lie about it?
@@Disneyfan82 I think rewriting history today is far less effective than it used to be due to the Internet. When I was at school there was exactly zero alternative information to what my teachers told me. Sure, I could get a book, but what kid does that, and books have the be published so they can be controlled. Today, anyone can have an opinion on the Internet, and although that means a lot of misinformation, all the misinformation does is makes people question everything they hear, and having people question everything is game over for people trying to rewrite history. This is not the situation today, since social media and online information is new enough that some people do not use it, or use it blindly, but give it time. It's natural for teens to believe any information they learn away from adults, but as they pass 18 and start to incur responsibilities they start to question things more and more. The problem social media has today is that it's dominated by the young and clueless because they always adapt to new technology first, but in time that will shift. Honestly, I think all the people that push extreme world views and misleading information in either direction are crapping themselves, or they should be. The hysteria of today is like the last gasp of the grifters and frauds.
You don't need to tell me. I saw how awful this movie was just by the trailer.
Even a blind man could see how bad it was going to be😂
They got me at "and Wendy". I knew what that meant.
I'll stick to the highly entertaining, far superior 2003 _Peter Pan,_ with Jason Isaacs playing the _definitive_ cinematic portrayal of Captain Hook, fun Richard Briars as Smee, and the lovely and talented Rachel Hurd-Wood as Wendy...
Thanks for taking one for us all thorias,we salute you sir!
I wonder if in captain America new world order, they sing “what makes a red hulk red”
I'll tell you the reason an update of this really needs to change a lot more than they did, in particular if they want to be "inclusive." Peter Pan was written at a time when the pop culture of the day had little boys dreaming about pirates and Indians as the height of adventure. Even if they do it as a period piece, that connection is entirely lost on *actual* modern audiences. Simply put, if they want to update Peter Pan they've got to jump it to a more modern time, and then completely rebuild Neverland around what kids fantasize about *today*, not two hundred years ago. It just gets worse as time advances.
Honestly that could work. Just change the setting to a mix of fantasy and sci-fi like the treasure planet movie Disney made so many years ago. Made the lost boys escape to never land because they want to scape things like school or homework. Update some other things and I they they could have made a movie that at least looks visually interesting.
@@juan0808 To be honest writing Peter Pan as a cyberpunk story would surprisingly work pretty well as a black mirror sorta episode, I think. Neverland could be virtual. An actual place someone can pretend to be 10 forever.
@@BlazingOwnager At which point, why bother updating Peter Pan? Leave it as it is. Write new work something I suspect these writers, who love updating old works , cannot do.
@@juan0808 That doesn't sound like Peter Pan...and it doesn't have to be. That sounds like a new movie.
Well, gues what, there is an animated series that does it. Not bad, actually. Many episodes are available on RUclips.
Ben Shapiro _"it's in the name, _*_Lost BOYS"_*
This proves that the writers will fail miserably definitely hurting the one percent of good writers and heaven help us with whatever is left in the industry coming forward after the strike.
The new "Tigerlilly" is as much of a reductive trope as the original is accused of being. Just in a different way.
Disney is in ruins
Neverland is also a childish place. The pirates are as a child would imagine them. The Indians are as a child might imagine them. As are the mermaids and everything else. All those things take on lives of their own beyond that, or course, but that childish lens is the origin of them.
Consider this idea for a new look at peter pan
Jack frost and "to dream of you"
Peter pan and the lost boys are NOT "kids that don't want to grow up" they are "kids that can't grow up".
Never land is "purgatory", a place kids souls come play, until they are ready to "grow up", and are sent to their heaven
After the Rescue Rangers movie already destroyed Peter Pan, I didn't think it was possible to destroy him even more...
Right??
Yeah, this comes across as "content by committee" that was then filtered through "focus groups" so they could run it by the "sensitivity readers" until any and all traces of actual entertainment were thoroughly erased.
In other words, a Disney project.
Cancelled my sub to D+ couple of months ago.. Imagine this film attractin customers :P
Mm mm.... Seems like Wendy Palpatine should be her name.
love that neverland turned into a WASTELAND
After that I think we all need to forgive 2015's Pan..... The only nice character here was Jude Law's Hook even if he was not used properly....
Well here goes another childhood classic
You know that emasculated Peter.
Was there even the slightest possibility that modern Disney could have made this anything OTHER than insufferable garbage?
FUCK NO!!
But then, he'd have to get a real job instead of bitching about teen CWs shows..
I for one am SHOCKED at the outrage about this great update for a modern audience...
My big problem with this movie was Why Does Neverland Look So Empty? It's an enchanted magical island? Where was the magic, or the forest? The fairies, the mermaids, the lush strange plants and animals?
Tinker Bell is boring, Peter Pan is a dull menace, Wendy is very unlikable and Hook(the best actor) feels... smaller than life. Overall, normal modern Disney adaptation.
No,,, Just no... the entire reason Peter got Wendy was to have a mother for the lost boys. He wouldn't need a girl to play mother to them IF HE ALREADY HAD A GIRL TO PLAY MOTHER TO THEM!!!
"...and doesn't let him off the hook..."
Bruh...that pun😂
Thank you for subjecting yourself to this travesty so the rest of us don't have to. Not all heroes wear capes.
The irony of Wendy seeing her future life is that if male characters have a montage like this, they are shown fulfilled family lives.
Take the ending of Bioshock, where the protagonist raises the Little Sisters he saved, who all have fulfilled lives on their own and will be with him when he dies.
Or the episode The Inner Light from Star Trek: Next Generation where Picard experienced an entire life on a doomed planet. Or the Adventure time Episode Puhoy (the Pillow World one), which basically the same premise.
Apparently the House of Mouse is just a cage with a dead rat.
This Makes me appreciate Cathy Rigby, Mia Farrell and my 1st Mary Martin...! Now that was DIVERSE Casting!
Yeah. Hook’s line: “I have no happy thoughts” hit me right in the gut. I have dysthymia with PTSD which is basically perma-depression (not so bad you cannot get out of bed, but basically always there in the background) so Hook looking deep into his soul and unable to come up with a single happy thought to LITERALLY save his life was like a dagger in my heart. I could empathize with that feeling very deeply and the fact the movie just kind of dropped that plot as quickly as it was brought up was like spitting in the face of all those of us suffering from extreme anxiety and depression. And on top of all that, it looked for a second like Peter was actually going to have a defining character moment as his face all of a sudden got very upset as if he was just starting to realize how awful of a person he was and how much his actions ruined the life of this man; only for Wendy to interrupt that moment and demand to go home. F*** Wendy and the writers who wrote her to be such a selfish c***. Sorry for the language, but they literally could have totally redeemed the film right there had they gone in the direction that it looked like they were going to go, and instead took a giant s*** on the audience to have yet another ‘girl boss’ moment.
Fast becoming my favourite movie reviewer. I can only hope your subscriber numbers explode. Thanks for uploading.
It's not fair what happened to Wendy's character...
It's not fair that Disney didn't care about the original source material... The lost boys were all boys for a reason (it's in the book) Wendy's character was feminine and motherly for a reason... Why is Disney so bent on ruining classics nowadays?? 😢
You can see why this was shit out onto D+.
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I always liked the idea, from the book, that baby girls were too smart to fall out of their prams and get lost.
This has to stop at some point when they just run out of stories to re-imagine, Then what? Start all over and re-re-imagine?
Awesome new film review, Thorias. personally I will stick with 1991's Hook. 2011's Neverland prequel tv mini series & the story arc in Once Upon a Time series 3. :)
Don’t forget the 2003 Peter Pan movie as well
Good mention@@elperrodelautumo7511, I used to like that version. but as I have got older. I like it less & less. but if you still like it, thats cool. I do like the Peter Pan Live musical, though. starring Allison Williams as Peter Pan & Christopher Walken as Captain Hook. :)
Let's face it. At this point they're probably making these remakes just to piss us off and get even more viewings this way. Most of us like roasting the shit out of these remakes [at least I do] and this still gives them money. They get all this cash, and they don't even need to be creative. We are falling right into their trap.
I’m under the impression it isn’t about the money but about THUH MESSAGE and “fixing” the past. No way a billion dollar entity like Disney keeps failing on purpose if they intended to release quality products.
MISERY JUNKIES!!
Million views for TCD bitching about this!!
Y'all need to grow up!!!
Bitching about Scooby-Doo and other cartoons as adults... whining about Willow... JESUS WEPT!!!!
Have YOU GUYS considered MAKING ORIGINAL CONTENT???
NAH!! Just bitch, episode after season after movie...
Speak for yourself Elina. I'm not paying Disney for this.
Haven't most of these Disney remakes been utterly bombs at the box office?
Yeah what good is the message if no 1 is around to hear it because most of these remakes have been absolute bombs.
Honestly, if you arent going to stay true to the Disney cartoon, I'd love an actual true adaptation of the book, where Pan is basically an amoral Fey Godling that "modifies" his Lost Boys to better fit through the knot holes and "takes a walk" with the ones who decided to miss thier mothers or grow up and always came back alone.
I honestly would have not minded there being other races of kids in the "Lost Boys" group as long as they were _all_ BOYS; I mean we of course have Wendy and Tinkerbell plus Tiger Lilly so there's your female inclusion, I haven't seen this movie and doubt I ever will but from what I heard they for some reason completly removed the mermaids from it.
Once Upon a time let Peter Pan be evil
Disney has no soul.
Perfectly and well said! I couldn't help but to nod my head and complain alongside you throughout the entire video.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED your ideas! I'd love to see or read your rendition of Peter Pan.
Why the hell did Disney even decide to remake Peter pan? I never watched that movie as a kid. It was never really that popular! I never heard any of my friends say anything about this movie as a kid.
To rage bait adult RUclipsrs too untalented to produce original content.
Technically baby food
This Peter Pan is a bigger a-hole than the one from Once Upon a Time and that one is a straight-up villain, who kidnaps children like the Pied Piper and manipulates them into thinking, that they are unloved by their parents, so he can sacrifice one of them to become immortal.
He is also very charismatic and objectively hot, even though it's all very over the top and edgy.
Did Tiger Lilly even HAVE people in this one? Wasn't she alone?
I can’t un-see Tinkerbell’s constant duck face
Wendy was brought to be the lost boys mother. They’re are girls in the lost boys, making Wendy’s reason to come to neverland is pointless now.
Your righteous indignation is glorious. Thank you for the analysis.