@@colelepper9381 Couldn’t agree more! If it’s self propelled and runs on the rails, and can pull rolling stock, it’s a loco. The latter is the only reason why self propelled cranes don’t count as locos
The Cheshire Cat Grin on your face said it all Lawrie mate. As the song by "Bread" goes: *If a picture paints a thousand words* .What a beautiful cobbled together practical peice of engineering excelence. A classic example of *We havent got the machine we need* . Ok .... Let's just build it🤔🤔👍. Yet again you've given us a Golden Nugget of engineering "Back street mechanicing genius at it's best" ! 😉
That type of thing was common in the US, they were commercially made for a long time usually with a small single cylinder 8 horse power gasoline motor. Typically called a speeder or motorcar I’m actually in the process of restoring one that was made in 1923
yeah, state side they aren't that odd of a machine, though I do love how dramatic and futuristic "rail speeder" sounds for what is essentially a golf cart on tracks. Good Luck with your restoration!
They were definitely not essentially a golf cart. Golf carts only go 12-14 mph Speeders are capable of running 25 or 30 mph and combined with the fact of no suspension and feeling every track joint. The speeders become a way more interesting ride than a golf cart
I do like the term speeder. Over here on the standard gauge in the golden years they were almost exclusively Wickham trolleys. Cause that's who made them, so anything like it just becomes a Wickham
@@VintageRenewed apologies, I guess I was just going off looks vs any real knowledge. I'm sure they're the type of vehicle that can make 30 MPH feel like 80. Speeder probably feels like the perfect description when you're actually riding one.
The Talyllyn has always been my favourite narrow gauge railway in Wales and the one I have ridden on the most. Dolgoch Falls station is one of my favourite places. As well as being very scenic, the whole line has a most pleasant and friendly atmosphere, and the stations, track, locomotives and stock are clearly much loved and well cared for by the staff and volunteers.
Love it. Want one. Inside the loco… speed, power, proper horn, three on board… totally forget it’s not a narrow gauge steam loco… then cut to shot of Toby crossing the viaduct… the reality… couldn’t stop smiling.
The name for these in the USA are called "Speeder's". They're are a ton of them all over the place. There's even a Speeder club that travels around to different volunteer based railroads for events 😊
this was almost a ' Lawrie goes a little loco ' episode lol ... but seriously , the railway i used to volunteer at had 2 similar trackside maintenance vehicles & wagons , chuck chainsaws & pruning gear on & away you went .. as these were used almost daily they probably did more miles than the DMU's
Cressy's engine went into original tractor loco 5 (before Midlander took the number on) Because that had 3 forward speeds and only one reverse speed, Toby came into being partly to get round problem and be capable of good speeds in either direction.
If/when you come to the United States, and if you like this kind of ride, I would highly recommend the model T at the Wiscasset Waterville and Farmington. Very similar feel, but it it literally a model T automobile that has had rail wheels installed.
On this side of the pond these are called MOW (Maintenance of Way) speeders, or motorcars (It is effectively a “motorized” version of a handcar). Engines are motors (The Ford Motor Car Co., and General Motors are a thing for example).
Yeah, I've heard the term speeders before. Over here during the golden years on the standard gauge they were almost exclusively made by a company called Wickham, so we just had Wickham trolleys
Never clicked a notification faster, and I have never seen this inspection trolley before, even in pictures online. I'm so glad you've brought some attention to this lowly little Pway vehicle. Brilliant as usual, Lawrie.
I wonder if the transmission is easy to shift because it has synchromesh? Since it came from a road vehicle, maybe the unit has some synchro's that help mesh in the gears? I notice there is no sounds of gear clashing when you shifted the gears so I'm speculating that the transmission is not atypical "crash" box transmission. I love the camera angles in this video. Thanks.
@@lt1fd3s a token is a physical object which a train driver is required to have or see before entering onto a particular section of single track. The token is clearly endorsed with the names of the section it belongs to. A token system is more commonly used for single lines because of the greater risk of collision in the event of a mistake being made by a signaller or traincrew, than on double lines.
Lawrie was travelling between Pendre & Quarry siding, which covered 2 token sections of the Talyllyn (single line sections between passing loops) so carried the token issued at Pendre as far as Brynglas, locked that into block instrument before being able to unlock a token for the section between Brynglas & Forestry Crossing. The block instruments can only release next token once previous one is locked in - a system designed to prevent there being more than one train/loco in any one single line section at once.
Like how it took Lawrie from 9:30 to 21:00 to finish the preparation work, then he spends 3 minutes to drive Toby around lol. fix the video chapter things @Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels
@@lmm Thanks that would be super. We need to make the most of it as in 2050 ish Fairbourne will be demolished due to rising sea levels.I hope a new home can be found for this lively little railway
We call that a Speeder or track inspection motorcar in USA 😉 definitely not a locomotive early ones were built without a cab most are gasoline powered it was made to replace the handcar or hand pump car there is enthusiasts who buy, rebuild & use them on short lines or abandoned railroads sometimes
If you're worried about riding something like this without walls, you'd hate the Victorian Railways gangers trollies. No walls, no bars on the sides and only a single hoop bar in the middle of each end to hang on to. With a bench seat down the middle, you can squeeze 8 men on them, and get up to some silly speeds on them especially coming downhill in angel gear (neutral). Lots of fun to mess around with......
Can you make your content accessible by formatting the auto captioning into closed captioning? It is extremely hard to enjoy your content having to keep concentration on the auto captioning and not be able to see your content properly sadly
@@BrassLock Turn on CC on this video and turn off sound, see how it is to watch, it doesn't show at all when there's too much background noise while they're talking. Now watch this with the caption turn on, this is closed captioning meaning it been edited (usually from RUclips automatically generated caption) ruclips.net/video/tWbNrm7Jo5c/видео.html
@@edscoble Thanks Edward for sending that link to the instructions for RUclips creators, it was very interesting. However, I'm not a creator, so rely entirely upon the videos I watch to supply legible subtitles; I can only press "CC" on my phone screen and hope the Creator has gone to the trouble of following the RUclips instructions. Otherwise I either get no result at all (worst scenario), or I get a very poor Google Translate result from Russian, German or Thai videos. But I shouldn't complain, I spent most of my life listening to International Short Wave broadcasts in English, which was a very limited "diet" indeed. At least now I can enjoy pictures, even if the audio is crap 🤩
As you've likey noticed, we've pushed our videos to two a week at the moment. This is taking all the time I have to be able to film, edit, and try to live. At the moment I do not have the time to be able to add the captions to a video. In the future, I would like to add the feature, but currently it would come at the expense of releasing a video, which would effect my earnings too greatly.
@@lmm As a _viewer,_ the pressing of *"CC"* on my smartphone enables closed captions. You don't have to do anything more as a _creator._ Two videos a week is far more work than 90% of creators. Very few do 3 a week such as *Itchy Boots,* and she got burnt out 2 years ago because of her workload. Now she takes a 2 week break each season, and paces her videos to strictly under 20 minutes, with minimal editing from 3 cameras and one drone. It's a hell of a workload.
I like to think the guy who built the locomotive got the bench from the local chaplain. At least the passenger can say his prayers........
😂 😂 😂
Ok I got to admit that joke was pretty good. Well done dude
The World - "it isn't a locomotive, it doesn't look like one"
The Narrow Guage Community - "We don't care, it is a locomotive because we say it is"
it's got an engine and it goes on rails it's a loco
@@colelepper9381 Couldn’t agree more! If it’s self propelled and runs on the rails, and can pull rolling stock, it’s a loco. The latter is the only reason why self propelled cranes don’t count as locos
@@Living_Life_RN more like what you feel through your feet
It's very much a motorised trolly - it can pull another works trolly, it's not compatible with the other stock.
@@lmmyet😂
5:18 it’s funny because I’m a fan of Thomas myself.
The Cheshire Cat Grin on your face said it all Lawrie mate. As the song by "Bread" goes: *If a picture paints a thousand words* .What a beautiful cobbled together practical peice of engineering excelence. A classic example of *We havent got the machine we need*
. Ok .... Let's just build it🤔🤔👍. Yet again you've given us a Golden Nugget of engineering "Back street mechanicing genius at it's best" ! 😉
Thank you very much - you've got it in one!
Toby, the little engine that could... Bring a smile to Lawrie. :)
It's great fun!
Toby might be strange but at the same time, Toby is also charming too!
It's quite a characterful little thing
That type of thing was common in the US, they were commercially made for a long time usually with a small single cylinder 8 horse power gasoline motor. Typically called a speeder or motorcar
I’m actually in the process of restoring one that was made in 1923
yeah, state side they aren't that odd of a machine, though I do love how dramatic and futuristic "rail speeder" sounds for what is essentially a golf cart on tracks. Good Luck with your restoration!
They were definitely not essentially a golf cart. Golf carts only go 12-14 mph
Speeders are capable of running 25 or 30 mph and combined with the fact of no suspension and feeling every track joint. The speeders become a way more interesting ride than a golf cart
Those are Wickham trolleys-
I do like the term speeder.
Over here on the standard gauge in the golden years they were almost exclusively Wickham trolleys. Cause that's who made them, so anything like it just becomes a Wickham
@@VintageRenewed apologies, I guess I was just going off looks vs any real knowledge. I'm sure they're the type of vehicle that can make 30 MPH feel like 80. Speeder probably feels like the perfect description when you're actually riding one.
What a delightfully charming little loco! Coupled with gorgeous shots of the Talyllyn Railway! Can't wait to see more in the future!
I can't wait to get back and do some more.
Yes, the scenery very much fails to disappoint.
It's amazing isn't it!
Well done LLM gang and Talyllyn Team! Kes and Steve are great and always willing to help.
Thank you!! (hello from Kes)
They're lovely people!
The Talyllyn has always been my favourite narrow gauge railway in Wales and the one I have ridden on the most. Dolgoch Falls station is one of my favourite places. As well as being very scenic, the whole line has a most pleasant and friendly atmosphere, and the stations, track, locomotives and stock are clearly much loved and well cared for by the staff and volunteers.
It's an absolute shining beacon of heritage. The standard of everything and the atmosphere is outstanding.
Love it. Want one. Inside the loco… speed, power, proper horn, three on board… totally forget it’s not a narrow gauge steam loco… then cut to shot of Toby crossing the viaduct… the reality… couldn’t stop smiling.
It's great fun! I chuckled with glee watching it trundle across the viaduct!
That’s a very cool little loco. Glad to see it has some suspension now in the form of a padded seat.
Such levels of comfort!
The name for these in the USA are called "Speeder's". They're are a ton of them all over the place. There's even a Speeder club that travels around to different volunteer based railroads for events 😊
I was told that groups get together and go for an adventure along railways!
love the picture of a steam engine on the side
It's a nice touch isn't it.
Talyllyn looks awesome , would love to visit her one day :)
It's well worth the trip
Beautiful Rail Speeder!
It's a wonderful little thing
@@lmm Sure is! That looks ready for a speeder rally!
17:48, that looks awesome fun!
It was!
What great video and to see a part of history and that is great they restored Toby.
Evolved it! It's quite different to how it started life. Glad you enjoyed it
@@lmm for sure I bet that little 3 cylinder engine moves that unit along nicely
What a great home built locomotive. I do love the Talyllyn Railway very much indeed.
It's wonderful isn't it!
@@lmm It most certainly is a great Locomotive & Railway Line
the people who built this rail way are heroes!
You should have called this Lawrie of his trolly 🤣
That would have been great 😂
Word of the day.......................................Absolutely
Absolutely was the word of the day!
Great video. Wish I was there to see the views. And ride it. Thanks
It's well worth the visit!
Thanks Lawrie, always like the quirky stuff!
So do I!
Toby reminds me of a Fairmont Motor Car but much, much heavier.
And smaller?
@@lmm It actually looks a little bigger than my friend's Fairmont MT19. Maybe narrower, but it looks taller and longer.
Little Toby here reminds me quite heavily of the similar loco from the Apedale railway that was featured a while ago.
Oh yes! Both... Basic things 😂
Fun little vehicle :-) If you ever come to germany, you should try a Strüver Schienenkuli...
I'm going to have to find out what that is, but sure
@@lmm small, noisy little narrow gauge engine with a huge flywheel at the side, where every health and safety officer will freak out entirely :-)
Great video, it is a fantastic railway
Isn't it just
this was almost a ' Lawrie goes a little loco ' episode lol ... but seriously , the railway i used to volunteer at had 2 similar trackside maintenance vehicles & wagons , chuck chainsaws & pruning gear on & away you went .. as these were used almost daily they probably did more miles than the DMU's
I think on many railways people don't realise the importance and mileage of the maintenance vehicles.
That's a cool machine and a nice line to run it on.
Isn't it just! Spectacular!
Little guy sounds powerful!
Deceptively so!
This loco is so cute!
Isn't it just!
I understand that the original engine may come from Cressy Tom Rolt's Narrow boat he lived on her from 1939 until 1949-50
Cressy's engine went into original tractor loco 5 (before Midlander took the number on) Because that had 3 forward speeds and only one reverse speed, Toby came into being partly to get round problem and be capable of good speeds in either direction.
That's a wonderful bit of history!
What a jolly little thing!
Isn't it just!
Next Episode: Lawrie drives the tamping machine and flail mower on a full round trip of the TR. I mean it’ll only take like 7 hours, not much at all!
I actually really want to!
Emergency. Tea mug required. Please send Toby at maximum warp.
😂 Most critical of all emergencies
If/when you come to the United States, and if you like this kind of ride, I would highly recommend the model T at the Wiscasset Waterville and Farmington. Very similar feel, but it it literally a model T automobile that has had rail wheels installed.
Oh yes, there's a similar thing in New Zealand too! Sounds amazing fun
Toby's horn sounds exactly the same as the one in my locomotive - a 5" gauge Planet. lol!
[Stebel Nautilus compact truck horn]
Oh really? That's cool
Man i would love to have this in my backyard
The problem is
My backyard is not that big
I feel the same way!
On this side of the pond these are called MOW (Maintenance of Way) speeders, or motorcars (It is effectively a “motorized” version of a handcar). Engines are motors (The Ford Motor Car Co., and General Motors are a thing for example).
Yeah, I've heard the term speeders before.
Over here during the golden years on the standard gauge they were almost exclusively made by a company called Wickham, so we just had Wickham trolleys
Never clicked a notification faster, and I have never seen this inspection trolley before, even in pictures online. I'm so glad you've brought some attention to this lowly little Pway vehicle. Brilliant as usual, Lawrie.
Thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder if the transmission is easy to shift because it has synchromesh? Since it came from a road vehicle, maybe the unit has some synchro's that help mesh in the gears? I notice there is no sounds of gear clashing when you shifted the gears so I'm speculating that the transmission is not atypical "crash" box transmission. I love the camera angles in this video. Thanks.
It's a very unpleasant thing to shift gear in - comments were very tongue in cheek!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@ 19.56 that estate car on the lower road was fair speeding in reverse.
I’m fairly certain that car was driving forwards, not reverse. Also that’s the normal speed for driving on that road.
@@Living_Life_RN I know the video was reversed.
Damn. Missed that
what a nice surprise
Glad you enjoyed it
been looking forward to going back since the events for the year were announced a few weeks ago - toby is certainly a character!
Great looking railway. Does Toby have a speedo? I couldn't see one in the cab tour.
It does not. Very little of what I featured on the channel does in fairness
I’d love to have a conversation with John Bate. The first chief engineer of the preserved Talyllyn. It would be amazing
ruclips.net/video/hgvpamtCWBk/видео.html
And just like that, your wish is granted
*Remarkably fast!*
If the engines could talk, Toby would probably be the one to not care lol since he just inspects and that’s it lol
Oh the things it's seen!
Great video. That's the whole point of an inspection trolley that feels all the lumps and bumps of bad track so you do something about it?
That's very true!
The Tallyllyn looks like nice wish I could go
It's a lovely line. Highly recommended
I have had the pleasure of being a passenger on Toby and to paraphrase a meme - I fear no roller coaster nor loco but that thing... it scares me!
the steam engine logo/stencil at 4:12 looks rather like an American engine... why not a Fletcher-Jennings?
I guess it's just what they had at the time.
nice where is the token for?
...i'm wondering what the purpose of the token is myself...
@@lt1fd3s a token is a physical object which a train driver is required to have or see before entering onto a particular section of single track. The token is clearly endorsed with the names of the section it belongs to. A token system is more commonly used for single lines because of the greater risk of collision in the event of a mistake being made by a signaller or traincrew, than on double lines.
Lawrie was travelling between Pendre & Quarry siding, which covered 2 token sections of the Talyllyn (single line sections between passing loops) so carried the token issued at Pendre as far as Brynglas, locked that into block instrument before being able to unlock a token for the section between Brynglas & Forestry Crossing. The block instruments can only release next token once previous one is locked in - a system designed to prevent there being more than one train/loco in any one single line section at once.
@@studiocommer thanks
As above.
It's a safety system. If you have the token, that section of line is clear to travel on.
The machine won't let a conflicting movement occur.
Like how it took Lawrie from 9:30 to 21:00 to finish the preparation work, then he spends 3 minutes to drive Toby around lol.
fix the video chapter things @Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels
Don't know what you're talking about.
It's fine.
Wasn't ever wrong.
I know what I'm doing.
(thanks for pointing it out)
Interesting how technology has come sence it been built considering the person with the iPhone 😉👍
It's quite the blend of old and new!
What about Fairbourne . When you going to visit that one
Hopefully this year!
@@lmm Thanks that would be super. We need to make the most of it as in 2050 ish Fairbourne will be demolished due to rising sea levels.I hope a new home can be found for this lively little railway
Hi how are you mu wilsco d4 is running well now
Very well, and pleased to hear it
Nice build but it could have had some kind of suspension perhaps?
That's added compilations
Its essentially a narrow gauge Wickham car. Well looked after little thing though
Kinda yes, though Wickham was just a brand
I'd don't care how ugly it is, I like it. It would make a great Garden Railway model.
Wouldn't it just!
Is Lawrie here for an idea to repurpose the engine from his Moggy-shaped pile of rust?
It isn't a bad idea...
You make me want to risk air travel and come to Wales.
Yes, it's definitely worth the efforts.
There is so much more to discover at the TR (and other ng lines in that area as well).
Enjoy !
Wales is well worth the trip. You need a good few weeks to do it all though!
@@lmm Someday, when the eternal cough has subsided. 7 hours in a pressurized tube is too much for my mental health right now.
And where my name originated on behalf of brother obsession lol
😂 Did it mean he liked you?
We call that a Speeder or track inspection motorcar in USA 😉
definitely not a locomotive
early ones were built without a cab
most are gasoline powered
it was made to replace the handcar or hand pump car
there is enthusiasts who buy, rebuild & use them on short lines or abandoned railroads sometimes
I remember this film about Buster Keaton riding what I think is a Cabless Speeder, I think the film is called "The Railrodder", better check it out
Yeah, we had Wickham trolleys in the UK which were pretty much exclusively used on the standard guage.
@@lmm :D Ahh yes, the ones built in 1948-1990. By Dennis Wickham.
Oh great 👍
It was!
it needs a little bell to finish the look
Yes indeed!
If it can couple to and pull at least 1 car and it's on rails, it's a locomotive in my book!
It's a specialised trolley it pulls. A locomotive should pull any possible train
15:00 Spot the continuity error !
I've got to film somehow!
If you're worried about riding something like this without walls, you'd hate the Victorian Railways gangers trollies. No walls, no bars on the sides and only a single hoop bar in the middle of each end to hang on to. With a bench seat down the middle, you can squeeze 8 men on them, and get up to some silly speeds on them especially coming downhill in angel gear (neutral). Lots of fun to mess around with......
Both terrifying and amazing fun!
Lawrie off his trolley again
Well played
Is this the strangest rail vehicle running on the Talyllyn? Toby The Trolley LGL Ep. 27
Lawrie's Mechanic love louis shirley
Wanna do a Lawrie Goes Loco on a 1954 EMD G8? #longhoodfoward
Yes. Yes I do! Drop us an email!
so its about as heavy as a ice cream bike
That's a heavy bike!
more model trains
There are more model videos planned!
Can you make your content accessible by formatting the auto captioning into closed captioning? It is extremely hard to enjoy your content having to keep concentration on the auto captioning and not be able to see your content properly sadly
Can you explain the difference between _"auto captioning"_ and _"closed captioning"_ please, as I thought they were synonymous.
@@BrassLock Turn on CC on this video and turn off sound, see how it is to watch, it doesn't show at all when there's too much background noise while they're talking.
Now watch this with the caption turn on, this is closed captioning meaning it been edited (usually from RUclips automatically generated caption) ruclips.net/video/tWbNrm7Jo5c/видео.html
@@edscoble Thanks Edward for sending that link to the instructions for RUclips creators, it was very interesting. However, I'm not a creator, so rely entirely upon the videos I watch to supply legible subtitles; I can only press "CC" on my phone screen and hope the Creator has gone to the trouble of following the RUclips instructions.
Otherwise I either get no result at all (worst scenario), or I get a very poor Google Translate result from Russian, German or Thai videos. But I shouldn't complain, I spent most of my life listening to International Short Wave broadcasts in English, which was a very limited "diet" indeed. At least now I can enjoy pictures, even if the audio is crap 🤩
As you've likey noticed, we've pushed our videos to two a week at the moment. This is taking all the time I have to be able to film, edit, and try to live.
At the moment I do not have the time to be able to add the captions to a video.
In the future, I would like to add the feature, but currently it would come at the expense of releasing a video, which would effect my earnings too greatly.
@@lmm As a _viewer,_ the pressing of *"CC"* on my smartphone enables closed captions. You don't have to do anything more as a _creator._
Two videos a week is far more work than 90% of creators. Very few do 3 a week such as *Itchy Boots,* and she got burnt out 2 years ago because of her workload. Now she takes a 2 week break each season, and paces her videos to strictly under 20 minutes, with minimal editing from 3 cameras and one drone. It's a hell of a workload.
Q,,,,,What do cats think is the greatest thing man ever invented?,,
A,,,,, The cardboard box,,
Maybe the tin opener 😂
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that is my name
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Good choice!
hm
Hmm indeed