Hey I built my first PC the other day and followed BitWits PC building tutorial, then I followed PaulsHardware's PC setup tutorial for basic system configuration and Windows 10 tweaks. Finally I want to thank you because I followed your videos on overclocking when I overclocked my RAM and my GPU, I also watched this video for the 2700x but since I'm running the Wraith Prism I decided to just let it do its own thing and it seems to sit at around 4.2Ghz average when it's bouncing the load between the cores. Your videos were very helpful and I just wanted to let you all know that I appreciate that you all make so many specialized tutorials to build a resource ecosystem that makes approaching the task of PC building much more friendly than if I was left going in blind with just the components manuals. I really do wish you all the best of luck. Don't worry about the haters either, there's nothing wrong with using the parts you get to build PC's for your friends and family.
2700x Stock 3000Mhz RAM - 1779 2700x Stock 3133Mhz RAM - 1815 2700x Stock 3200Mhz RAM - 1826 2700x Stock 3400Mhz RAM - 1844 2700x 4.15Ghz 3200Mhz RAM- 1892 Max temp stock air cooler 72* Bios untouched besides RAM bump. I run it at 3200Mhz with timings improved for my daily use. Runs great! Beyond happy with Ryzen. Came from a 7700k and it was a awesome improvement with the extra cores and threads. Gaming is about the same and workloads is far improved. Loving the 2700x over my old 7700k for multitasking/streaming/gaming. W10 on "AMD Balanced" mode in Windows settings. If I could get 4000Mhz stable she'd push well into that 1950ish mark.
I'm excited but i must admit I'm gutting out my out HP pavilion ATX case which came with a super reliable Athlon 64 processor...(love that thing)and I'm going to hopefully build a ryzen 7 2700x build in it for gaming and watching blu- rays on my home theatre in thee ole mancave!...i have to admit you guys are pretty awesome and you've got me excited as hell...do you have an affordable ATX form motherboard in mind any help is a great help an very much appreciated!...thanks in advance guys!
The important part is do it in small increments... This way you will see the moment you went to far, then you don't have to figure out what a safe OC is... You would just have to step things back to the last test run.
Brandon Chelsea The CPU does not "boost" itself, it is all software controlled. The issue with the auto overclock is that it normally only boost one of the cores. Which is can be unstable, and not great for tasks that need more then one core. Manual overclock allows you to raise the performance of all the cores uniformly. Which makes multi cores tasks better then the stock OC settings. Plus when gaming you get more stable frame rates, when rendering videos you get better performance (lower times). Hope this clears up the confusion a little. There is more to it, this was just a simplified explanation.
Frankly part on the blame goes on AMD for implementing something called "game mode" and then having it reduce performance in most of the cases. Get rid of the functionality or call it something else to avoid confusion.
@@C3lloman They clearly stated that mode is SOLELY for Threadripper that has ridonculous number of cores that are not even close to being utilized in 99% of the games, and it does NOTHING for the Ryzen CPUs but butcher their performance (Ryzen 7 becomes Ryzen 3). The only other thing they could have done was make a hardware limitation inside the utility, but that is completely unnecessary as long as the user CAN FCKIN READ!!!!!!!! That feature wasn't USED, it was ABUSED, maliciously and with intent to cripple the scores...
kumbandit I agree with C3llo, it was just a bad decision to call it that on their part. They could’ve easily have called it Ripper mode, which would’ve been more accurate and overall would’ve been much better marketing. With a single word, as an average consumer, you’d know who it was for and what would happen to your cpu performance if you didn’t have a threadripper.
Just to share my cinebench scores, 8700k (stock)=1465pts. 5GHz=1653pts. 5.2GHz= 1693pts. 5.3GHz= 1717pts. 5.3 is the fastest I can push my chip, even then it doesn't match Ryzen in cinebench, impressive from AMD.
in multicore applications , now test single core the stock fx 8350 matches the 7700k in multicore cinebench as well you are also comparing 6c12t to 8c16t divide that result by cores and you end up with intel 122 , amd 118
But that's multicore score, right? Your 8700k has less cores and threads than the 2700X that Jay is showing off here. Try single core, and you might see better scores from the 8700k, or at least see it even out with Ryzen. I agree, though, AMD is definitely continuing to put pressure on Intel. Hope this continues over the next few years.
This is exactly the type of video I was looking for from your channel. I love the methodical benchmarking and overclocking. Thanks for putting this together!
It has the problem with all overclocking, you get results for the sake of getting results, then to actually run the pc in the real world it needs to be calmed down some.
I have a Ryzen 7 2700x on order. And this is by far the best overclocking guideline I have seen for any CPU I have owned. Thank you for putting in the leg work so I do not have to :D
@@minky2395 I know this is old but I got this CPU and I went yesterday from stock cooler to the H115i Pro XT and I'll make the same 4,3ghz OC he did to see if it works well :P 1,5v sounds like a lot but I only play on the weekends so it shouldn't be an issue. Right now, at 4,2ghz 1,475v it goes to 63° os package temp to I think 4,3ghz at 1,5v should be good.
it was more fun back in the day when you really needed to know what are you doing to get somewhere. Now it's : "Click here to automatically OC everything"
There's sadly a really low number of AMD "OC" videos even now, I suspect that is partly to do with how both complicated and little improving it is even to try and tune AMD CPUs. Or so it feels like.
Exactly the reason why I prefer Jay's OC benchmark results cause he actually uses what people would use for overclocking. Instead what I've seen certain other tech-tubers do and try to overclock Ryzen 2700X up to 4.3GHz on the stock cooler and then wonder why they can't get it stable, then say oh I must have gotten a bad binned chip. Like really guys?
While at the same time they are using 360mm custom loop on a on a delided 8700k hitting 90C and going like "Yeah this is totally leggit 5.2Ghz that everyone can do", and just use it as a baseline.
Vanlonja exactly how about we take the 8700k and overclock it with an Intel stock heat fan. Oh wait it doesn't have one? How much is it really to get one from someone like really? Now let's see you get that 5.2ghz OC on the 8700k. Like if your going to use the 8700k as a baselime use it as the base line only at it's stock configuration if you are going to compare an AMD Ryzen Processor with it's stock heatsink. At least AMD provides you with decent cooling out of the box and you don't have to spend an extra $50-$70 for a cooler that can handle the Intel processors.
A BIOS update alone made a big difference for my Ryzen 1700. Was still running an shortly-after-release-day BIOS until a week ago, update to the latest version dropped Premiere render times by about 10%. Activating DOCP to get the 3000 MHz on the 32 GB RAM carved of another 10%. Cinebench sits at 1336 now. Probably should get a better cooler and take a look at the CPU speed next, that is still set to stock speed.
Though I did screw around with my ram for the past few minutes and push a slight voltage based oc and get a score of 1509 Now to see what a bios update does for me
CJRhoades I'm running 2×16 2400 cl16 ram but I managed to get it to 2666 and cl 14 with a slight voltage bump So with a bios update I got up to 1730 but I was also on 2.3 and went all the way to 3.3 so mightve had a few performance bumps Ended out with 1700x 4.0 ghz 1.38125 voltage 2400mhz 32gb ram at cl13 1.3 volts An average score of 1724 across 6 runs
Great video! I'm a first time builder, and have never messed with any BIOS settings before. After building my first PC, of course I'm already trying to overclock it. This wasn't even a tutorial on overclocking, and I learned more than the other overclocking "tutorials" that I watched. Jay makes it easy. Thanks man!
For the first time in many years I'm thinking next upgrade will be AMD. As many times as Intel has pissed me off I have never had the confidence to switch. What with my cad stuff and cnc work it is not a simple email and facebook type load.
Brian Lucas , haha im in the same boat. But i built mine back in 2009. The learning curve of figuring out the just the right components with the new nvme ssd's and b die dimms to pair with the x470 mobo has been a tiring one. Good luck
not really that difficult.. especially nowadays. if anyone is unsure, be sure to check the vendor compatibility lists from the different motherboard manufactures. however, if getting a new x470 board, you should be good with whatever you purchase. having said that, one thing that is for sure, Ryzen 1st gen and 2nd gen both LOVE samsung B-die ram kits. this basically means you're spending $200ish for 16gb ram at 3200 frequency. running ryzen 5 1600 with a stable 4.0ghz oc, going from 16gb 3000 frequency hynix die ram kit to 16bg 3200 samsung b-die increased my cinebench r15 score from 1260ish to 1330ish. and this is on a B350 board. i'm seriously giving thought to the 2700x and Aorus gaming 5 board because of the heat sink pipe thingy by the VRM's. i do gaming and alot of programming heavy workloads here so the value is here for me edited for wording
Ill get my Ryzen 2700x tomorrow. Its the first time for me since the Athlon XP came out. After the Core 2 Duo came out, Intel ruled the world for more than 1 decade.
Thoroughly enjoyed this one, I'm not one for massive Overclocks and this is a great way to show newer users to get a little more oomph out of their rigs without frying them ;) Great work Jay.
Nordern Hello, I’m planning investing in an exact setup like this one with probably a fancier AIO. My intention is gaming and streaming in the future but I want to know what would be the best tweaks for better performance🙄, temperatures and reliability. Could you give me a good example for CPU ghz, memory mhz and voltage for both?
This was worth the couple of days wait. None of the other “mainstream tech-tubers” are doing this, a sit-down, OCing session of the new Ryzen 2nd gen, with the exception of GN. But still not a sit-down like Jay is doing. His channel has filled the gap of what others seem to glance over, valuing faster production over better quality. Thank you Jay. Thank you. And to your whole crew for making this channel a reality.
Jay, thank you for this video. I'm about to build my first PC, a 2700x system. I'll definitely be using this video as a guide! I've learned a lot from you so thanks for the work you do!
you should revisit this as a series. like how to overclock ( intel, amd, nvidia) stuff like that
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I got 1822, stable at 4.1Ghz with a 3200Mhz HyperX kit, with the stock cooler. I guess it could go even further with a more aggressive fan curve but I'm happy with this. Thanks for the guide Jay!
Cinebench R15 score (best out of 4) of 1891 with Ryzen 7 2700X clocked @ 4.2 Ghz Cinebench R15 score (best out of 5) of 1839 with Ryzen 7 2700X clocked @ 4.1 Ghz Bios slightly tweaked: BCLK set to manual @ 100, VCore set to manual @ 1,27 volt with 41 multiplier, VCore set to manual @ 1,29 volt with 42 multiplier, load line set to manual @ high. I have just built this system last week, i used to be an Intel adept, i now have to gain the knowledge of AMD systems to push the max out of it, so please dont judge these figures to harshly. System info: Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 (Bios version F8) Ryzen 7 2700x Gskill FlareX 2x8 Gb RAM 3200 Mhz cl16 overclocked @ 3466 Mhz Enermax AIO Liqtech II 280 watercooling on CPU (2 x 140 mm Enermax fans blowing out) Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 Watt PSU (original fan replaced by Noctua NF-A14 - i drill, solder, grind, bend, etcetera myself to modify my computer system) Graphics info: (I migrated the graphics cards from my previous Intel system to the new AMD system) 2 x GTX970 EVGA SSC in SLI under custom built waterloop (EK blocks and radiator, Innovatek pump) with Noctua NF-A14 fan on radiator (blowing out) and 2 Noctua NF-B9 fans blowing on to the VRM and RAM heatsinks (GPUs + RAM are heavily overclocked, waterblocks only cool the GPUs, copper heatsinks are glued to the VRM mosfets and RAM chips to keep them cool) Case: Coolermaster Haf XM mid tower ( i know, its an oldy) Casefans: Coolermaster 200 mm + Noctua NF-A14 blowing in from the front (radiator fans are blowing out, the Noctua 140 mm on GPU radiator blows out from the back and the two Enermax 140 mm on the CPU AIO blow out from the top of the case) what do you think of my numbers / scores? keep in mind i am new to AMD systems!
Jay, after watching a lot of other Ryzen overclocking videos, you did everything that made the most sense. Thank you for going in depth enough to answer most of our questions! I wanted to see what would happen with ram only or cpu only overclocks and everything. Great vid!
gigabyte x470 gaming 7 ryzen 2700x radeon 7 cooler master ma610 air cooler no overclock. default bios and amd settings. memory overclocked 200mhz from 3200mhz to 3433mhz and memory voltage increased from 1.2v to 1.4v. nothing else touched. cinebench r15 1780 cinebench r20 4106
I scored comparebale figures! With same mobo (Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7), same cpu (2700x), default bios and amd settings, little overclock on RAM: set to 3466 Mhz @ 1,35 volt. My best score with Cinebench R15 was 1785 out of 3, the lowest was 1777. What RAM do you use? I have GSkill FlareX 2x8 Gb CL16 (3200 Mhz). The FlareX CL14 costs 65 Euros more (80 US Dollars) and this second gen Ryzen is less sensitive to tight RAM latency timings so i bought the CL16 RAM instead of the CL14. My Thumbs Up to you for using an air cooler!!!!
Over the last few months I found your channel. This was the time that I decided It was time to build my beast of a pc again. Iv'e been out of the pc building game for years and wow how things have changed. I love it. The capability for a pc builder and super user has grown exponentially. Thank you for your channel and all the information therein. I really appreciate the time and the effort that you put into your channel and the wealth of knowledge that you are sharing.
I think its still "illegal" its not "legal" in the since that weed is in CA. They dropped the charges from felonies to misdemeanors IIRC so basically the same as a speeding ticket. Here is a reference point: www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/news/2014/11/06/heroin-meth-possession-now-misdemeanors-in-california.aspx
Float Sam I am pretty sure Jay is familiar with a "J", maybe not now but at one point. In fact if anyone on the west coast does not know what the term "Tweaker" really means, they don't actually live on the west coast.
Thx Jay! The exact same CPU and Board arrived yesterday, plus 3600mhz RAM. Your guide helped me a lot! Now im just waitung for the damn AM4 mounting kit for my cpu-cooler :)
I don't understand how your temps are so high with a watercooler when those were my temps with the 2700x on the Wraith Prism. My last cpu FX8350 with a Corsair H100i i got avg 30celcius running 600mhz higher than stock..
@@NP23335 basically undervolt the cpu so the temps are lower and supposedly the turbo mode (or precision boost im guessing) will go faster due to lower temps
No point of me running cinebench. My current system is rocking an AMD A6-5400K APU that will barely run Minecraft. Suffice it to say a potato would be faster, so I can't wait until I can afford to build a Ryzen anything.
You can build a decent used system. h55 mobo for 40-60$; x3440 (4 cores 8 threads) for 15-20$ - it is a beast cpu; 20$ cooler to overclock it; you probably have ddr3 already, if not 16GB ddr3 will cost 60-70$; used video card like 7970 (280x) for 80-100$; you probably have hard drive already; coffin pc case with 500-600W power supply for 20-30$ (make sure power supply has enough cables to power your videocard). All that for 200-250$ you can build a PC that will run games extremely well at high detail. You live in the US and one benefit is that you have huge market out there and there are a lot of used parts for good price, you can even get it for less than I put it here. And sell your am3 plarform. Your machine can have this type of performance: ruclips.net/video/so-vSARzeSs/видео.html You'd be able to record videos and even stream on it if you play with settings.
Your last name is Liano and you are almost using a Llano processor? Coincidence? I don't think so. A6-6400K user here, the thing is still running like a champ.
Yeah, LGA775 and LGA1156 will give some nice performance with decent OC. The Xeons are highly advised, they are mostly cheaper than the Core i chips and overclock just as high. A nice Phenom might also be an option. But if the APU has trouble running Minecraft, even a Core 2 Duo would be an upgrade.
Voltage on yours? Im at 1,3Volts at 3,9GHz. 1300cb point with 3066MHz. 3200MHz ist stable, with the exception of fortnite (reallay strange maybe someone can relate an has a fix) r5 1600 without x btw
1700@4.0ghz vcore 1.375 with 2933mhz vengeance lpx cinebench score is 1768. Single core score is 164. The new Ryzen is 176 single core with the 2700x. A good jump in IPC. A 3 percent increase is something but when it's on all 8 cores it is something.
South Sider2005 dude sitting at 1.31 volts and like 1.34 for my dram to trigger at 3200 and it’s hitting 4.0 plus easy. If only messing with Vega was as easy.
I have not used an AMD CPU in at least 7 years. I'm using Intel 4790K. which is old. I just ordered a brand new rig. AMD Ryzen 2700x Gigabyte X470 gaming 7. CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz 32GB. (which is being shipped now) I must admit I was very skeptic switching from Intel to AMD. but after seeing some really super reviews on the Ryzen 2700x. I decided to give it try. I almost ordered an Intel Core i7-9700K. (which is 130$ more than Ryzen 2700x. I hope I did not screw up and made the right choice. This is NOT my first build. as I built at least 70 since 1994.. but left AMD long ago. I hope I made the right choice.
@@gingygrant iam sittin on my i5 4670k now @ 4,4Ghz with 1.330V stable, under 60°C with a Alphacool Eisbär 360. Now my 1080 cant keep up with 4k gaming xD wondering what happens if you put in like a 2080. Maybe u could play some more years with it xD
Your stock load temps are around my idle temps apparently. Need to check my thermal paste. But then again, you used a 360mm AIO, so that plays into it, since I have a 280mm AIO.
@@tanasirobert9157 my electrical engineer brother who uses the same thermal compound for various applications, all of which get to Temps very similar to your cpu and GPU. After 3-6 months of continuous use its performance starts to degrade. It's not as important here as it is for his job, but with the cost of a tube of thermal compound, there's no reason not to tear down your pc a bit, replace your thermal compound, and clean up your pc from dust or whatever else might be in there. That's only 2-4 times per year. You take care of your body, and your car, take care of your pc.
Just picked up this CPU in a bundle from Micro Center, glad Jay had a specific vid about it. Gonna build a high end water cooled PC soon, gonna be spending a lot of time on Jayz channel in a month or 2....
I just built my Ryzen 7 2700x system about a month ago and I bought Corsair RGB RAM rated at 3000MHz and I didn't realize that DDR4 was base set at 2133MHz. I had so much trouble figuring it out but I eventually did. I had watched this video around the time Zen 2 came out and I just now rewatched it and wish I had paid closer attention the first time. It would have saved me a ton of time. Great video Jay. I love the knowledge that you share.
My 2700X with G.Skill Trident RGB 3200Mhz is at 1811 in Cinebench running at 4.1Ghz with the memory at 3333Mhz. My stock clock was at 1782. I got a damn good chip I must say.
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so... my 1695 with Ryzen 1700x on 4.0 GHz with 2666Mhz memory is actually pretty good? ok :D nice :D
your chip must be pretty bad with that score, my max score on the 2700 non x is 1859 at 4.1ghz and overclocked 2800mhz ram 16gb, your stock speed is pretty good, but dont forget you can try to overclock your 2700x to 4.3 or 4.5ghz if you have anything other and better than the stock cooler
I have not tweaked timings or anything else yet, so better scores to come. Also, made a mistake, my memory is at 3233 on 3200 memory. My score is actually pretty good and above normal for sure. If you are getting higher scores, you definately have a great chip. My dad played around with my setup while I was gone and hit almost 2000 score, but reset everything until we get free time to mess around with it again.
@@andrejparunovic haha yeah I understand. I wish I would have waited for the new amd cpu but I’ve had this computer build for a month now. Still waiting for a 3000 series
Im waiting for b450 boards to release will be pairing that with a 2600x, problem is I can do only 2x8gb 2400mhz cuz prices are high. Can I overclock the ram up its rated speed?? Capacity is more important cuz I do premiere and photoshop often. Thanks
start with 3200Mhz 17-19-19-19-38CL 1.36v for your ram and run prime 95 1 hour. I oc my 2x8gb 3200Mhz 16-18-18-18-36CL 1.345v to 3200Mhz 15-16-16-16-28CL 1.36v and I run prime 95 1 hour and played games after = stable jumped from 109% to 112% score in Userbenchmark.
Did you end up OC'ing ram and/or your CPU? I'm just about to build a b450m with 2600x with 3200MHz ram and wondered how likely is to make ram go higher than 3.2GHz.
pretty much. we have both a 10 macbook pro and a 12 macbook pro which was given to her after her brother was done with them. the 10 will take literal minutes to even be able to be operated after startup. the 2012 one is a bit faster. But they are barely even sufficient for watching netflix. the 10 takes about 5-10 seconds to even out the lag when launching a netflix episode. It surely is quite strange. the old one has the i7 variant which i imagine was quite expensive at the time. No hate intended. Im just saying it takes an unknowing person or a nerdy idiot to buy a macbook. Don't get me wrong, the new ones are very good. if they were 2/3 the price or 1/2 of the price. performance wise there just isn't any competition between a modern macbook pro and a "gaming" laptop. If you really need a good laptop or a workstation and are not dependant on apps that are only on OSX. spend your money wisely. Buy a same performance windows machine and buy dividend stocks for the rest of the money. A good investment indeed.
I wasn't able to find R15 but I did dl the Cinebench R20 from the Microsoft Store and here are my results: Setup: MB - MSI Tomahawk B450 CPU - AMD 2700x (Stock Wraith Prism cooler) RAM - GSkill Trident 16Gb x 2 DDR4-3000mhz CL 14-14-14-34 GPU - MSI GTX1070 Gaming X All I've done to OC the CPU and the RAM is use the Auto features in the Tomahawk's BIOS and I've slightly OC'd the GPU using Afterburner but that's it and all cooling is stock air coolers and a few case fans. I'm not sure if this score is good/bad, or if the scoring/testing differs between R15 and R20, nor do I know how it stacks up against other's setups?... but here are my results: CB R20 Score = 4239
The thing is, I kept this card from an older build, one with a ryzen 1700, and I don't really need a titan, but I have been waiting for 1180s to launch to pick one up, to put the 1080 in my secondary pc.
That's what my build is. What ram are you running? I went with 64g off G.skills 3600. ASUS ROG ZENITH EXTREME sTR4 AMD X399 board. 1080 duke. Are you using m2 ssd? That's my next buy. Evo 1t. What temps are you getting? I am supper excited to finish my build.
2700X: 1902 with 4.25 GHz, 1.41 Vcore, 32 GB 2933@14-15-15-35 1.35V My RAM is specified for 3200@16-18-18-36 but I can't get it stable with the XMP profile on my board for some reason. Find it interesting to hit same results as in video despite running it at 2933 instead of 3400 or 3600. Tight CAS, RAS to CAS, and RAS Precharge seems to have a big impact, indeed. Thanks for the great video. Was a great help indeed.
Although I'm no longer on the AMD platform I still had to like and comment on this video. The very first video of yours I'd watched was your guide to overclocking the 8350. I watched in in preparation for possibly joining the PCMR. THAT video and Tek Syndicate's review convinced be to jump in. Keep making good content.
I've seen a video of a dude getting 4.4ghz by playing around with other voltages beyond just the main voltage. I mean he only did it on one of his 6 chips but it's at least possible but honestly his video was kind of lacking in a lot of details like temps and long term stability etc.
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Guru3d did 4.4 too but chip from amd I suppose and likely damaging the cpu too. Theirs may have run great stock too due to the adaptive boosting.
It is real, it was done by BCLK and letting the cpu turbo itself, to fool it with increased voltage - simplified as a mobo additional tweak called Precision Boost 'Overdrive'. You can do the same even on a cheap biostar by increasing the Bus Clock to say 101.8 or 102.3bclk then setting the cpu 'as 'Auto' with turbo and increasing core voltage offset. This should help keep it stable. I did 4.2ghz constant at 2600x, but i can't do 4.3-4.4 because 2600x is a far worse wafer to overclock than 2700x. Sources: i.redd.it/evni0utcdnt01.png www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8eaves/2700x_up_to_45_ghz_in_single_threaded_loads/
Joseph Cohen You cant tell the difference between an Intel System and a Ryzen one playing side by side...well thats not really true, the Ryzen one will be smoother.
No need to, the 2700 does the same thing and is overclockable the only difference being the X series come Overclocked from the factory but not a whole bunch.
Nah, the difference with X is that it is automaticly overclocked and the stock cooler is better. The rest is just silicon lottery. Dont ever buy the X-version if you are gonna overclock manually with a 3rd party cooler.
Just upgraded my good ol' i7-3770k to an R7 2700x went from 759 (i7 3770k) on cinebench to 1923 (2700x) .... im very happy with my ryzen so far... now lets see if it can hold up all these years as good as my 3770k.
@@toasty2438 i was suprised myself lol... its actually been running stable at 4.4 since i got the pc... thats pretty good quality :) been running custom EK- watercooling tough (nothing fancy just two 240 rads and a bay reservoir.) Using Corsair H100i AIO on my new ryzen build, i didnt want to go thru all that custom watercooling again, its a pain to set up for the first time.
@@DanielMystisk Interesting I just redid the CB15 826 no changes, must've remembered it wrong ^^' that's nutty, I'm running on a dark rock 4 and it's surprisingly cool (max temp 60°c) even at 4.8ghz sustained load I could crank the base clock to 4.6-4.7 and boost to 5ghz but then it'd be at 70'ish to 75°c
As always, when it comes to overclocking and overall information about the topic - man, this is such a great video, Jay!! Enjoyed watching every minute of it!!!!
stock i7 8700k, 16gb 3200mhz CL16 ram. CINEBENCH SCORE: 1425. I'm gonna try an overclock now, just installed the i7 today. :) Edit: did a 4.7ghz overclock. Score was 1558. Edit2:i did a 5.00ghz @ 1.350V with a Cinenbench score of: 1654 but temps were reaching 90C so thats not good :)
Matt Bellas 1 second ago HELP ME PLS :'( Ive got a 8700K, running on a Asus Z370E... I can put it to 4.9Ghz at 1,38v but temps are around 85-90c (cinebencz R15 1558) what are your temps like and volts?
Delid your CPU, had the same issue, no other way to get around such high temps while overclocking (I've got Corsair h115i), it's 'normal' from Intels perspective. Because 'runs fine stock'.
I know this upload is a bit old now but its by far my favorite 2700X overclocking vid. Super easy to follow and really helped me make an educated CPU purchase decision.
Haven’t tested yet but system is Ryzen 7 1800x 16gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz Msi Aero GTX 1070 Corsair H100i v2 MSI Gaming Pro Carbon X370 Will update once I do tests
Can you revisit this 2700X doing a BCLK OC? I've seen some good results from just a 103-104 BCLK and leaving the stock boost mechanisms enabled. There are side some side effects if you use some other PCIe cards in the system but should be fine with a single DGPU and a BCLK OC. Also it would be good to see if there are any significant FPS gains to be had with this OC and then a BCLK OC config or if it is mainly productivity load performance gains. This is a great video either way, thanks Jay.
Turns out I didn't need to overclock mine after all - 80% GPU usage vs 15-20% CPU usage in games is absolutely where I want to be! 1260+ Cinebench doesn't hurt, either. Tried a 3.9 all-core overclock and barely got over 1300. Not worth the extra volts. I would try an undervolt but it's very difficult to get a non-fixed undervolt stable at low loads. Let's see what Ryzen 3000 can do... assuming the leaks are correct I've got my eye firmly on that little 3300 :D.
@@bobthehomie1313 is really loud at heavy duty, ryzen stock coolers are good for looking but when u overclock it to 4.2 it will get loud and hot if you live in a country that has 20c'+
Just built my 2700x system (Gigabyte Ultra Gaming and 16GB RAM). Very pleased indeed at stock speeds and the quickest build I've ever done, all worked first time. Then Win 10 did its endless update, which wasn't quick but, you know how it is. Very pleased indeed.
Ryzen 2700x Asrock X470 Taichi bios 1.35a(beta bios) tried the new ones and even emailed for a newer one but my ram timings would keep resetting the pc for some reason. I am completely stable on 1.35a Hydro Series™ H150i PRO RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler AIO (6 fans push and pull) G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB 3200 (2 x 16GB) 16-18-18-38 Hynix 1 x SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe Internal SSD This is mostly detailed compared to the rest of the comments: www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11825214 Cpu running at 101 bclk with a negative offset -0.075 which gives me about 4.4ghz on single cores, my max temp on prime95 small ffts would max out to 75C running my cooler on max everything. My cinebench Varies from 1910 to 1920, exiting all the programs and putting on realtime priority. I still have my antivirus in the background eventhough its offline it still has some shit running. single core is 184 cb (high priority) Running my hynix kit on custom timings 3366, when i ran the orginal xmp profile it game me like 43000 and 42000 and 40000 with 70 latency AIDA64 cache & memory Benchmark Read: 51686 MB/s Write: 51551 MB/s Copy: 50819 MB/s Latency: 67.2
"What games do you play?"
"3DMark time spy and cinebench15"
EggyRepublic don’t forget heaven benchmark and msi kombuster for GPU
Lame...
LMAO do you pay your own electric bill?
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Hey I built my first PC the other day and followed BitWits PC building tutorial, then I followed PaulsHardware's PC setup tutorial for basic system configuration and Windows 10 tweaks. Finally I want to thank you because I followed your videos on overclocking when I overclocked my RAM and my GPU, I also watched this video for the 2700x but since I'm running the Wraith Prism I decided to just let it do its own thing and it seems to sit at around 4.2Ghz average when it's bouncing the load between the cores. Your videos were very helpful and I just wanted to let you all know that I appreciate that you all make so many specialized tutorials to build a resource ecosystem that makes approaching the task of PC building much more friendly than if I was left going in blind with just the components manuals. I really do wish you all the best of luck. Don't worry about the haters either, there's nothing wrong with using the parts you get to build PC's for your friends and family.
Good Job on your build. Swap out that cooler though.
You should check out www.reddit.com/r/buildapc some time as well, we're all about helping people building PCs and stuff over there.
RemedialHappyMan nice comment
I did pretty much the same thing when building my first gaming PC two years ago. These guys, eh?
@@Kevinator1996 hmm, I may check that out. I'm having trouble with a couple things, so maybe I can get some help there.
2700x Stock 3000Mhz RAM - 1779
2700x Stock 3133Mhz RAM - 1815
2700x Stock 3200Mhz RAM - 1826
2700x Stock 3400Mhz RAM - 1844
2700x 4.15Ghz 3200Mhz RAM- 1892 Max temp stock air cooler 72*
Bios untouched besides RAM bump. I run it at 3200Mhz with timings improved for my daily use. Runs great! Beyond happy with Ryzen. Came from a 7700k and it was a awesome improvement with the extra cores and threads. Gaming is about the same and workloads is far improved.
Loving the 2700x over my old 7700k for multitasking/streaming/gaming. W10 on "AMD Balanced" mode in Windows settings. If I could get 4000Mhz stable she'd push well into that 1950ish mark.
Ryzen 7 1700 4.2ghz 3466 RAM - 1936cb
@@TsvetanVR Pretty good. 2700x is a beast. I settled on 3400mhz with 14-14-14-34 timings. Been stable as hell, no issues, and plenty of performance.
@@TsvetanVR DAMN!!!
I'm excited but i must admit I'm gutting out my out HP pavilion ATX case which came with a super reliable Athlon 64 processor...(love that thing)and I'm going to hopefully build a ryzen 7 2700x build in it for gaming and watching blu- rays on my home theatre in thee ole mancave!...i have to admit you guys are pretty awesome and you've got me excited as hell...do you have an affordable ATX form motherboard in mind any help is a great help an very much appreciated!...thanks in advance guys!
Exactly what model of RAM are you using? My corsair 3200 won't even go to 2400Mhz.
This video serves as an OC guide for newbies as well (i.e. how to push limits incrementally), amazing job Jay!
The important part is do it in small increments... This way you will see the moment you went to far, then you don't have to figure out what a safe OC is... You would just have to step things back to the last test run.
Just make sure to run intel burn test for a few hours when you're done to verify the results
if that fails, back it down 1x
why would u oc the 2000 series tho, they already boost by themselves
Brandon Chelsea The CPU does not "boost" itself, it is all software controlled. The issue with the auto overclock is that it normally only boost one of the cores. Which is can be unstable, and not great for tasks that need more then one core. Manual overclock allows you to raise the performance of all the cores uniformly. Which makes multi cores tasks better then the stock OC settings. Plus when gaming you get more stable frame rates, when rendering videos you get better performance (lower times). Hope this clears up the confusion a little. There is more to it, this was just a simplified explanation.
Some may even overclock their RGB strips, so why not :D
"You're testing it wrong, you didn't turn on the gamer mode..."
-Intel
"Now you know how we woll at dee Principled Technologies..." - Kyle
Frankly part on the blame goes on AMD for implementing something called "game mode" and then having it reduce performance in most of the cases. Get rid of the functionality or call it something else to avoid confusion.
@@C3lloman They clearly stated that mode is SOLELY for Threadripper that has ridonculous number of cores that are not even close to being utilized in 99% of the games, and it does NOTHING for the Ryzen CPUs but butcher their performance (Ryzen 7 becomes Ryzen 3). The only other thing they could have done was make a hardware limitation inside the utility, but that is completely unnecessary as long as the user CAN FCKIN READ!!!!!!!! That feature wasn't USED, it was ABUSED, maliciously and with intent to cripple the scores...
kumbandit I agree with C3llo, it was just a bad decision to call it that on their part. They could’ve easily have called it Ripper mode, which would’ve been more accurate and overall would’ve been much better marketing. With a single word, as an average consumer, you’d know who it was for and what would happen to your cpu performance if you didn’t have a threadripper.
@@Athasin would you use some software without checking what it does, or if it helps, and what, and in what way? I don't think anyone is that crazy.
Could you do a full how to overclocking? With stability testing in the end :)
Just to share my cinebench scores, 8700k (stock)=1465pts. 5GHz=1653pts. 5.2GHz= 1693pts. 5.3GHz= 1717pts. 5.3 is the fastest I can push my chip, even then it doesn't match Ryzen in cinebench, impressive from AMD.
in multicore applications , now test single core
the stock fx 8350 matches the 7700k in multicore cinebench as well
you are also comparing 6c12t to 8c16t
divide that result by cores and you end up with intel 122 , amd 118
Cmdr Flint ryzen has 8 cores/16 threads and 8700k only 6/12 that's why
But that's multicore score, right? Your 8700k has less cores and threads than the 2700X that Jay is showing off here. Try single core, and you might see better scores from the 8700k, or at least see it even out with Ryzen.
I agree, though, AMD is definitely continuing to put pressure on Intel. Hope this continues over the next few years.
6 core vs 8 core, 8700k is still a beast
Cmdr Flint is that all cores or just 2 cause if all cores what cooler do you use?
Score 52... Pentium 4 @ 3.2GHz, 1gb 400mhz. Can watch RUclips at 360p, at 100% CPU...
horrorweedvideo get a raspberry pi
This was me about that time last year. Bought a gaming laptop in October and when 3000 comes out I'll have a full desktop to use.
I feel ya. Except I have a Celeron N2840 at 2.4GHz I believe? Only 2gb of LPDDR3 RAM at 1600MHz. Using laptop and lags when playing Minecraft.
@@radomiami Learn to code.
@@Exponaut_R-01 Learn to code.
Is it just me or did he not say "I digress" in this video?
Damien Talrose but I digress.
What is he Alex Jones now?
This is definitely one of the better videos out there for the 2700x
This is exactly the type of video I was looking for from your channel. I love the methodical benchmarking and overclocking. Thanks for putting this together!
It has the problem with all overclocking, you get results for the sake of getting results, then to actually run the pc in the real world it needs to be calmed down some.
Who else is here after buying the chip on black friday?
I was here before (then I forgot all he said) and I'm back! hahaha
yo...that's me
Hahaha me, 148€!
Dyrex $129. Micro center is awesome
£169
I have a Ryzen 7 2700x on order. And this is by far the best overclocking guideline I have seen for any CPU I have owned. Thank you for putting in the leg work so I do not have to :D
Don't overclock with the stock cooler btw, if you have a cooler ordered which one do you have?
@@minky2395 does the wraith not provide enough cooling? Thinking about overclocking mine after having it a while but might need top upgrade to a aio?
@@teamapex640 For me on 3.7 GHZ I get 74 degrees sometimes without overclocking
@@minky2395 I know this is old but I got this CPU and I went yesterday from stock cooler to the H115i Pro XT and I'll make the same 4,3ghz OC he did to see if it works well :P
1,5v sounds like a lot but I only play on the weekends so it shouldn't be an issue.
Right now, at 4,2ghz 1,475v it goes to 63° os package temp to I think 4,3ghz at 1,5v should be good.
@@rodrigoviegas7473 did you try overclocking with the stock cooler? and what temps did you have before and after for overclocking and in general
Old skool overclocking is done by jumpers or maybe replacing crystals.
Yes, I was there, but honestly who wants to go back to those days.
it was more fun back in the day when you really needed to know what are you doing to get somewhere.
Now it's : "Click here to automatically OC everything"
I have fond memories of overclocking video cards with custom bioses. One of which was me bricking one of my cards and then bringing it back.
Wow, I thought I was old, never heard of moving jumpers for overclocking lol, and crystals....? 😆
@@Jinkle don't worry. It was probably in the early PC times. You probably are familiar with the multipliers and base clock.
BOI was that interesting to see the whole process of overclocking! We need more videos like this.
There's sadly a really low number of AMD "OC" videos even now, I suspect that is partly to do with how both complicated and little improving it is even to try and tune AMD CPUs. Or so it feels like.
Exactly the reason why I prefer Jay's OC benchmark results cause he actually uses what people would use for overclocking. Instead what I've seen certain other tech-tubers do and try to overclock Ryzen 2700X up to 4.3GHz on the stock cooler and then wonder why they can't get it stable, then say oh I must have gotten a bad binned chip. Like really guys?
While at the same time they are using 360mm custom loop on a on a delided 8700k hitting 90C and going like "Yeah this is totally leggit 5.2Ghz that everyone can do", and just use it as a baseline.
Vanlonja exactly how about we take the 8700k and overclock it with an Intel stock heat fan. Oh wait it doesn't have one? How much is it really to get one from someone like really? Now let's see you get that 5.2ghz OC on the 8700k. Like if your going to use the 8700k as a baselime use it as the base line only at it's stock configuration if you are going to compare an AMD Ryzen Processor with it's stock heatsink. At least AMD provides you with decent cooling out of the box and you don't have to spend an extra $50-$70 for a cooler that can handle the Intel processors.
FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS
Are you brain dead? I haven't seen a single person do that without stating they are testing the stock cooler itself. Stop following who ever does that
FeedMeSalt I'm just talking about certain tech-tubers that I've seen with their reviews on the day they all went out.
A BIOS update alone made a big difference for my Ryzen 1700. Was still running an shortly-after-release-day BIOS until a week ago, update to the latest version dropped Premiere render times by about 10%. Activating DOCP to get the 3000 MHz on the 32 GB RAM carved of another 10%. Cinebench sits at 1336 now. Probably should get a better cooler and take a look at the CPU speed next, that is still set to stock speed.
Yeah you definitely need to OC that thing. My 1700 at 3.9GHz does about 1730 in cinebench.
I need better ram I have 2400mhz ram and a 4.0 1700x and my cinebench is 1486
Though I did screw around with my ram for the past few minutes and push a slight voltage based oc and get a score of 1509
Now to see what a bios update does for me
Ouch, yeah. I'm running 3200MHz CL14 G.SKILL Trident-Z. I bought over a year ago when it was around $150. Same kit now is $220+.
CJRhoades I'm running 2×16 2400 cl16 ram but I managed to get it to 2666 and cl 14 with a slight voltage bump
So with a bios update I got up to 1730 but I was also on 2.3 and went all the way to 3.3 so mightve had a few performance bumps
Ended out with
1700x 4.0 ghz 1.38125 voltage
2400mhz 32gb ram at cl13 1.3 volts
An average score of 1724 across 6 runs
Great video! I'm a first time builder, and have never messed with any BIOS settings before. After building my first PC, of course I'm already trying to overclock it. This wasn't even a tutorial on overclocking, and I learned more than the other overclocking "tutorials" that I watched. Jay makes it easy. Thanks man!
For the first time in many years I'm thinking next upgrade will be AMD. As many times as Intel has pissed me off I have never had the confidence to switch. What with my cad stuff and cnc work it is not a simple email and facebook type load.
scarmenl go for it, there's really no problems running the new Ryzen CPUs compared to Intel now. Stability and performance is great.
I ordered my 2700x yesterday this will be my first amd build after 7 generations of i7s
Brian Lucas , haha im in the same boat. But i built mine back in 2009. The learning curve of figuring out the just the right components with the new nvme ssd's and b die dimms to pair with the x470 mobo has been a tiring one. Good luck
not really that difficult.. especially nowadays. if anyone is unsure, be sure to check the vendor compatibility lists from the different motherboard manufactures. however, if getting a new x470 board, you should be good with whatever you purchase. having said that, one thing that is for sure, Ryzen 1st gen and 2nd gen both LOVE samsung B-die ram kits. this basically means you're spending $200ish for 16gb ram at 3200 frequency.
running ryzen 5 1600 with a stable 4.0ghz oc, going from 16gb 3000 frequency hynix die ram kit to 16bg 3200 samsung b-die increased my cinebench r15 score from 1260ish to 1330ish. and this is on a B350 board. i'm seriously giving thought to the 2700x and Aorus gaming 5 board because of the heat sink pipe thingy by the VRM's. i do gaming and alot of programming heavy workloads here so the value is here for me
edited for wording
Ill get my Ryzen 2700x tomorrow. Its the first time for me since the Athlon XP came out. After the Core 2 Duo came out, Intel ruled the world for more than 1 decade.
Thoroughly enjoyed this one, I'm not one for massive Overclocks and this is a great way to show newer users to get a little more oomph out of their rigs without frying them ;) Great work Jay.
Your videos explain everything so perfect. I overclocked my cpu using this guide and worked perfectly the first time. Thank you!
My cinebench score: 1807
Cpu: Ryzen 7 1800x at 4.1GHz (1.425V, max temp 57,25C)
Memory: 16GB at 3200MHz
Love your videos Jay, keep up the good work :)
_Karlsen_ holy volt
I got a 1904 score at 4.125 3333 ram
Oh ridiculous voltage it's not a stable OC haha
Hows ur temp 58
I'm at 1.38125 and I usually float around 50-55 under load and I'm running a 360 aio with 300rpm noctua high pressure fans
Ryzen 7 2700x
1919 Cinebench score
4,325ghz 1.45625v 3200mhz RAM
Not bad...
You run that voltage 24/7?
Oh no, over 1.42 will degrade the CPU quickly, running at stock for the moment
@@Nordern hell didn't see that voltage. That's crazy!
Nordern Hello, I’m planning investing in an exact setup like this one with probably a fancier AIO. My intention is gaming and streaming in the future but I want to know what would be the best tweaks for better performance🙄, temperatures and reliability. Could you give me a good example for CPU ghz, memory mhz and voltage for both?
This was worth the couple of days wait. None of the other “mainstream tech-tubers” are doing this, a sit-down, OCing session of the new Ryzen 2nd gen, with the exception of GN. But still not a sit-down like Jay is doing. His channel has filled the gap of what others seem to glance over, valuing faster production over better quality. Thank you Jay. Thank you. And to your whole crew for making this channel a reality.
Jay, thank you for this video. I'm about to build my first PC, a 2700x system. I'll definitely be using this video as a guide! I've learned a lot from you so thanks for the work you do!
you should revisit this as a series. like how to overclock ( intel, amd, nvidia) stuff like that
I got 1822, stable at 4.1Ghz with a 3200Mhz HyperX kit, with the stock cooler. I guess it could go even further with a more aggressive fan curve but I'm happy with this. Thanks for the guide Jay!
CPU: i5 4690 nonK
RAM: G.Skill DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) RipjawsX 1600MHz CL7
Mobo: MSI B85-G43
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+
PSU: EVGA 500B BRONZE 500 WATT 80PLUS
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CPU: 588 cb
CPU (single core): 151 cb
MP Ratio: 3.89x
OpenGL: 121,76 fps
Ref. Match: 99.6%
Youre truly the best out there man! I hope you never stop making content!
14:50 Love it Jay, keep up the good work!
Jay, after you find your stable final OC. (Cpu & Ram sweet spot) please do a gaming benchmark to see how it compares to Intel.
Great video BTW 😀
Jay, I really like the way you showed how to do an easy overclock. Thanks for the great video!
2022 and still using this guide for ryzen overcloking. thanks man.
You should build a watercooled pc with r7 2700X like you did last year.
Cinebench R15 score (best out of 4) of 1891 with Ryzen 7 2700X clocked @ 4.2 Ghz
Cinebench R15 score (best out of 5) of 1839 with Ryzen 7 2700X clocked @ 4.1 Ghz
Bios slightly tweaked: BCLK set to manual @ 100, VCore set to manual @ 1,27 volt with 41 multiplier, VCore set to manual @ 1,29 volt with 42 multiplier, load line set to manual @ high. I have just built this system last week, i used to be an Intel adept, i now have to gain the knowledge of AMD systems to push the max out of it, so please dont judge these figures to harshly.
System info:
Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7 (Bios version F8)
Ryzen 7 2700x
Gskill FlareX 2x8 Gb RAM 3200 Mhz cl16 overclocked @ 3466 Mhz
Enermax AIO Liqtech II 280 watercooling on CPU (2 x 140 mm Enermax fans blowing out)
Coolermaster Silent Pro 1000 Watt PSU (original fan replaced by Noctua NF-A14 - i drill, solder, grind, bend, etcetera myself to modify my computer system)
Graphics info:
(I migrated the graphics cards from my previous Intel system to the new AMD system)
2 x GTX970 EVGA SSC in SLI under custom built waterloop (EK blocks and radiator, Innovatek pump) with Noctua NF-A14 fan on radiator (blowing out) and 2 Noctua NF-B9 fans blowing on to the VRM and RAM heatsinks (GPUs + RAM are heavily overclocked, waterblocks only cool the GPUs, copper heatsinks are glued to the VRM mosfets and RAM chips to keep them cool)
Case: Coolermaster Haf XM mid tower ( i know, its an oldy)
Casefans: Coolermaster 200 mm + Noctua NF-A14 blowing in from the front (radiator fans are blowing out, the Noctua 140 mm on GPU radiator blows out from the back and the two Enermax 140 mm on the CPU AIO blow out from the top of the case)
what do you think of my numbers / scores? keep in mind i am new to AMD systems!
Tagging this so I can compare with my 2700X and Auros Gaming 5 Wifi MB later today or tomorrow.
Jay, after watching a lot of other Ryzen overclocking videos, you did everything that made the most sense. Thank you for going in depth enough to answer most of our questions! I wanted to see what would happen with ram only or cpu only overclocks and everything. Great vid!
Amd 1700x 4.10
Corsair 16gb at 3000mhz
Cinebench 1772
I have a reg 1700 4.0 is my max with my nzxt aio kraken 62
wow, memory then makes a difference :) i have 1700x at 4.0 and 2666 memory and only 1695 points
@ I have my g.skillz trident z oced to 3000mhz
I tried to go with 2886 on memory and got 1745, not bad for cheapest adata 16 gb kit I found
Score: 1785
1800x @ 4.05 16gb corsair rated at 2133 running 2400 ( wont go further for some weird reason ) but timings are 11-11-11-24
gigabyte x470 gaming 7
ryzen 2700x
radeon 7
cooler master ma610 air cooler
no overclock. default bios and amd settings.
memory overclocked 200mhz from 3200mhz to 3433mhz and memory voltage increased from 1.2v to 1.4v. nothing else touched.
cinebench r15 1780
cinebench r20 4106
I scored comparebale figures! With same mobo (Gigabyte X470 Gaming 7), same cpu (2700x), default bios and amd settings, little overclock on RAM: set to 3466 Mhz @ 1,35 volt. My best score with Cinebench R15 was 1785 out of 3, the lowest was 1777. What RAM do you use? I have GSkill FlareX 2x8 Gb CL16 (3200 Mhz). The FlareX CL14 costs 65 Euros more (80 US Dollars) and this second gen Ryzen is less sensitive to tight RAM latency timings so i bought the CL16 RAM instead of the CL14. My Thumbs Up to you for using an air cooler!!!!
Over the last few months I found your channel. This was the time that I decided It was time to build my beast of a pc again. Iv'e been out of the pc building game for years and wow how things have changed. I love it. The capability for a pc builder and super user has grown exponentially. Thank you for your channel and all the information therein. I really appreciate the time and the effort that you put into your channel and the wealth of knowledge that you are sharing.
Very informative for the uninitiated. Thanks.
Tweaker comment had me on the floor.
I think its still "illegal" its not "legal" in the since that weed is in CA. They dropped the charges from felonies to misdemeanors IIRC so basically the same as a speeding ticket.
Here is a reference point: www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/news/2014/11/06/heroin-meth-possession-now-misdemeanors-in-california.aspx
I think Jay just think Tweaker means weed ;)
Float Sam I am pretty sure Jay is familiar with a "J", maybe not now but at one point. In fact if anyone on the west coast does not know what the term "Tweaker" really means, they don't actually live on the west coast.
That gives a new meaning to "Speeding" ticket...
BDBD16 it was really that funny? On the floor?
Thx Jay! The exact same CPU and Board arrived yesterday, plus 3600mhz RAM. Your guide helped me a lot! Now im just waitung for the damn AM4 mounting kit for my cpu-cooler :)
I don't understand how your temps are so high with a watercooler when those were my temps with the 2700x on the Wraith Prism. My last cpu FX8350 with a Corsair H100i i got avg 30celcius running 600mhz higher than stock..
Watch Linus video on water cooling. Apparently it isnt the best.
sopcannon what do you think? should i use the stock cooler or buy a water cooling cpu for my ryzen 7 2700x . I really want to overclock
Please do a negative vcore offset with stock clock and turbo enabled next time!! You'll be surprised how more boost frequency you can get ;)
DarkSaieden what does that mean?
@@NP23335 basically undervolt the cpu so the temps are lower and supposedly the turbo mode (or precision boost im guessing) will go faster due to lower temps
This is actually what I'm gonna try first before I try an all core clock on my 2700x
GREAT video. Need to start overclocking my 1900x and RAM.
No point of me running cinebench. My current system is rocking an AMD A6-5400K APU that will barely run Minecraft. Suffice it to say a potato would be faster, so I can't wait until I can afford to build a Ryzen anything.
A Ryzen 3 2200G would already be a huge jump in performance for you :D
You can build a decent used system. h55 mobo for 40-60$; x3440 (4 cores 8 threads) for 15-20$ - it is a beast cpu; 20$ cooler to overclock it; you probably have ddr3 already, if not 16GB ddr3 will cost 60-70$; used video card like 7970 (280x) for 80-100$; you probably have hard drive already; coffin pc case with 500-600W power supply for 20-30$ (make sure power supply has enough cables to power your videocard). All that for 200-250$ you can build a PC that will run games extremely well at high detail. You live in the US and one benefit is that you have huge market out there and there are a lot of used parts for good price, you can even get it for less than I put it here. And sell your am3 plarform.
Your machine can have this type of performance:
ruclips.net/video/so-vSARzeSs/видео.html
You'd be able to record videos and even stream on it if you play with settings.
Thanks, but I need something that I know will be good for the next 5 years or so.
Your last name is Liano and you are almost using a Llano processor? Coincidence? I don't think so. A6-6400K user here, the thing is still running like a champ.
Yeah, LGA775 and LGA1156 will give some nice performance with decent OC. The Xeons are highly advised, they are mostly cheaper than the Core i chips and overclock just as high.
A nice Phenom might also be an option.
But if the APU has trouble running Minecraft, even a Core 2 Duo would be an upgrade.
R5 1600X 3,925. 3200mhz CL14. Cinebench score: 1358
Voltage on yours? Im at 1,3Volts at 3,9GHz. 1300cb point with 3066MHz. 3200MHz ist stable, with the exception of fortnite (reallay strange maybe someone can relate an has a fix) r5 1600 without x btw
1.33v and 1,385v on the memory. Have you set your memorytimings manually, Arkay?
Lucky dogs. My 1600 non x on a clc 240 is at 1.37 volts and won't go past 3.8ghz. 1.4 volts it won't even hit 3.9
My “old” 1600 at 3.95 1.34. Sc 165 mc 1311. Memory was cl 14 3000. The 1400 i had at 3.9 1.36 sc 157 mc 840 but with 2666 mem oc to 2933 cl 16.
1700@4.0ghz vcore 1.375 with 2933mhz vengeance lpx cinebench score is 1768. Single core score is 164. The new Ryzen is 176 single core with the 2700x. A good jump in IPC. A 3 percent increase is something but when it's on all 8 cores it is something.
i like the fact you provide links for the UK and also Canada. appreciate it
Getting 1770s in cinebench in stock settings now.... March 2019
South Sider2005 dude sitting at 1.31 volts and like 1.34 for my dram to trigger at 3200 and it’s hitting 4.0 plus easy. If only messing with Vega was as easy.
I have not used an AMD CPU in at least 7 years. I'm using Intel 4790K. which is old. I just ordered a brand new rig.
AMD Ryzen 2700x
Gigabyte X470 gaming 7.
CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz 32GB.
(which is being shipped now)
I must admit I was very skeptic switching from Intel to AMD. but after seeing some really super reviews on the Ryzen 2700x. I decided to give it try.
I almost ordered an Intel Core i7-9700K. (which is 130$ more than Ryzen 2700x.
I hope I did not screw up and made the right choice.
This is NOT my first build. as I built at least 70 since 1994.. but left AMD long ago. I hope I made the right choice.
@@jarednielsen6232 any chance you could let me know how it works for you? I'm looking to upgrade to basically same specs from my 4690k.
@@Venomx-nb1jr o be honest I made some changes in last min order. I don't have all the parts yet. something went wrong with my order from Amazon.
@@gingygrant iam sittin on my i5 4670k now @ 4,4Ghz with 1.330V stable, under 60°C with a Alphacool Eisbär 360. Now my 1080 cant keep up with 4k gaming xD wondering what happens if you put in like a 2080. Maybe u could play some more years with it xD
Your stock load temps are around my idle temps apparently. Need to check my thermal paste. But then again, you used a 360mm AIO, so that plays into it, since I have a 280mm AIO.
Justin E Your fans are probably off until under load, change the fan curve
Not only that but this is open air, not in a case. You should be replacing your thermal compound every 3-6 months tho anyway.
Evan Galinsky 3-6 months? Where’d you hear that from
@@tanasirobert9157 my electrical engineer brother who uses the same thermal compound for various applications, all of which get to Temps very similar to your cpu and GPU. After 3-6 months of continuous use its performance starts to degrade. It's not as important here as it is for his job, but with the cost of a tube of thermal compound, there's no reason not to tear down your pc a bit, replace your thermal compound, and clean up your pc from dust or whatever else might be in there. That's only 2-4 times per year. You take care of your body, and your car, take care of your pc.
Just picked up this CPU in a bundle from Micro Center, glad Jay had a specific vid about it. Gonna build a high end water cooled PC soon, gonna be spending a lot of time on Jayz channel in a month or 2....
How well would overclocking work with the same CPU but a MSI B450 Tomahawk motherboard?
I had an x370 gaming plus and now currently have a b450 tomahawk. It performs very well. Better than the x370 gaming plus.
I loved this! I'm going to get some ddr4 4000mhz! YEEE 🐾🐾
No
I just built my Ryzen 7 2700x system about a month ago and I bought Corsair RGB RAM rated at 3000MHz and I didn't realize that DDR4 was base set at 2133MHz. I had so much trouble figuring it out but I eventually did. I had watched this video around the time Zen 2 came out and I just now rewatched it and wish I had paid closer attention the first time. It would have saved me a ton of time. Great video Jay. I love the knowledge that you share.
Jay's hair looking particularly fluffy today
Jay, have you considered running a slightly slower memory speed with tighter timings?
@Anton Hallergren less latency, less memory usage tho
Or, try reducing timings without memory mhz
Great video! THANKS!
Cinebench R15: 1296.
Ryzen 5 1600 (4GHz; 1.387v)
Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, 16GB
500GB NVME
GTX 1070
ASUS Prime B450
My 2700X with G.Skill Trident RGB 3200Mhz is at 1811 in Cinebench running at 4.1Ghz with the memory at 3333Mhz. My stock clock was at 1782. I got a damn good chip I must say.
so... my 1695 with Ryzen 1700x on 4.0 GHz with 2666Mhz memory is actually pretty good? ok :D nice :D
Crazy im completely stock 2700x at 3.7ghz and have 1780 so we are pretty much bang on the same stock
your chip must be pretty bad with that score, my max score on the 2700 non x is 1859 at 4.1ghz and overclocked 2800mhz ram 16gb, your stock speed is pretty good, but dont forget you can try to overclock your 2700x to 4.3 or 4.5ghz if you have anything other and better than the stock cooler
2700x @Stock (Need to wait for a better cooler), G.Skill Flare X 3200mhz - 1790
I have not tweaked timings or anything else yet, so better scores to come. Also, made a mistake, my memory is at 3233 on 3200 memory. My score is actually pretty good and above normal for sure. If you are getting higher scores, you definately have a great chip. My dad played around with my setup while I was gone and hit almost 2000 score, but reset everything until we get free time to mess around with it again.
I am using the i7 5820k with 16gb of ram. It scored 981
lol my 7700k get 1117 points @5.1 Ghz
@@jannikgehrke1563 5.1 GHz? What!
Just started getting into oc. Got my 10700k up to 5.1 and scored 5109
@@tgrind2586 I knew only AMD's speeds when I saw the 5.1 GHz comment so that's why I couldn't believe.
@@andrejparunovic haha yeah I understand. I wish I would have waited for the new amd cpu but I’ve had this computer build for a month now. Still waiting for a 3000 series
So serious Jay here. 2018 vibes rollin for me today. Still using this CPU and just decided to browse around the tube to see what we can do with it.
Im waiting for b450 boards to release will be pairing that with a 2600x, problem is I can do only 2x8gb 2400mhz cuz prices are high. Can I overclock the ram up its rated speed?? Capacity is more important cuz I do premiere and photoshop often. Thanks
start with 3200Mhz 17-19-19-19-38CL 1.36v for your ram and run prime 95 1 hour. I oc my 2x8gb 3200Mhz 16-18-18-18-36CL 1.345v to 3200Mhz 15-16-16-16-28CL 1.36v and I run prime 95 1 hour and played games after = stable jumped from 109% to 112% score in Userbenchmark.
You can get the frequencies up by taking latencies higher.
Late answer, I know, but check out Buildzoid's video on RAM OC.
Did you end up OC'ing ram and/or your CPU? I'm just about to build a b450m with 2600x with 3200MHz ram and wondered how likely is to make ram go higher than 3.2GHz.
@@guillermoz5765 Did you build and OC it?
I tried running cb on my 2010 mac air and it got a score of 80
lol
LMAO that's the best think my eyes have ever seen
same on my girlfriends 2012 macbook pro. Cinebench score of 150. That is really really awkward for a product claming pro. It is apple afterall.
@@ReizungV pro autism. its an hidden name of the product.
pretty much. we have both a 10 macbook pro and a 12 macbook pro which was given to her after her brother was done with them. the 10 will take literal minutes to even be able to be operated after startup. the 2012 one is a bit faster. But they are barely even sufficient for watching netflix. the 10 takes about 5-10 seconds to even out the lag when launching a netflix episode. It surely is quite strange. the old one has the i7 variant which i imagine was quite expensive at the time. No hate intended. Im just saying it takes an unknowing person or a nerdy idiot to buy a macbook. Don't get me wrong, the new ones are very good. if they were 2/3 the price or 1/2 of the price. performance wise there just isn't any competition between a modern macbook pro and a "gaming" laptop. If you really need a good laptop or a workstation and are not dependant on apps that are only on OSX. spend your money wisely. Buy a same performance windows machine and buy dividend stocks for the rest of the money. A good investment indeed.
I wasn't able to find R15 but I did dl the Cinebench R20 from the Microsoft Store and here are my results:
Setup:
MB - MSI Tomahawk B450
CPU - AMD 2700x (Stock Wraith Prism cooler)
RAM - GSkill Trident 16Gb x 2 DDR4-3000mhz CL 14-14-14-34
GPU - MSI GTX1070 Gaming X
All I've done to OC the CPU and the RAM is use the Auto features in the Tomahawk's BIOS and I've slightly OC'd the GPU using Afterburner but that's it and all cooling is stock air coolers and a few case fans. I'm not sure if this score is good/bad, or if the scoring/testing differs between R15 and R20, nor do I know how it stacks up against other's setups?... but here are my results:
CB R20 Score = 4239
My best is a 3438cb. I have a 1950x. The build also has a gtx 1080 and 64gb of 3466 ram.
Turtle-Guy Jeezus! Overkill much? What do you use the system for??
Possibly.
I feel your video card is underrated, I would expect a titan xP min or dual 1080ti in sli.
The thing is, I kept this card from an older build, one with a ryzen 1700, and I don't really need a titan, but I have been waiting for 1180s to launch to pick one up, to put the 1080 in my secondary pc.
That's what my build is. What ram are you running? I went with 64g off G.skills 3600.
ASUS ROG ZENITH EXTREME sTR4 AMD X399 board. 1080 duke.
Are you using m2 ssd? That's my next buy.
Evo 1t.
What temps are you getting?
I am supper excited to finish my build.
I got 1730 points on CINEBENCH R15 on my 2700x with everything at stock..
Just memory at rated XMP of 3000MHz..
Mahesh Velayudhan changing memory timings increase your score by a lot still
2700X: 1902
with 4.25 GHz, 1.41 Vcore,
32 GB 2933@14-15-15-35 1.35V
My RAM is specified for 3200@16-18-18-36 but I can't get it stable with the XMP profile on my board for some reason. Find it interesting to hit same results as in video despite running it at 2933 instead of 3400 or 3600. Tight CAS, RAS to CAS, and RAS Precharge seems to have a big impact, indeed.
Thanks for the great video. Was a great help indeed.
WAGS WAGS WAGS ARF ARF yay I love overclocking, ITS SOOOOOOO FUN! YAYAYAYAY!
Pup Shepard arf
Awooooo
Didn't expect to see a human pup here lmao
What i really dont like about the 2700x is its Single core Performance.
Although I'm no longer on the AMD platform I still had to like and comment on this video. The very first video of yours I'd watched was your guide to overclocking the 8350. I watched in in preparation for possibly joining the PCMR. THAT video and Tek Syndicate's review convinced be to jump in.
Keep making good content.
What would you recommend overclocking this CPU at for daily use (24/7)?
Go into the bios and enable precision boost overdrive and dont touch anything else. Best temps and single core performance guaranteed.
if your workloads are multithreaded. else use percision boost and/or maybe even undervolt
I've seen a video of a dude getting 4.4ghz by playing around with other voltages beyond just the main voltage. I mean he only did it on one of his 6 chips but it's at least possible but honestly his video was kind of lacking in a lot of details like temps and long term stability etc.
Guru3d did 4.4 too but chip from amd I suppose and likely damaging the cpu too. Theirs may have run great stock too due to the adaptive boosting.
Bet you got some long term out of shaking the baby bottle to that video.
It is real, it was done by BCLK and letting the cpu turbo itself, to fool it with increased voltage - simplified as a mobo additional tweak called Precision Boost 'Overdrive'.
You can do the same even on a cheap biostar by increasing the Bus Clock to say 101.8 or 102.3bclk then setting the cpu 'as 'Auto' with turbo and increasing core voltage offset.
This should help keep it stable. I did 4.2ghz constant at 2600x, but i can't do 4.3-4.4 because 2600x is a far worse wafer to overclock than 2700x.
Sources: i.redd.it/evni0utcdnt01.png
www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8eaves/2700x_up_to_45_ghz_in_single_threaded_loads/
I copped one of these black friday. Watching this now has value to me besides entertainment :)
Now I am really curious what will happen with a 4000mhz memory kit and gaming. I wonder if that would make ryzen+ more in line with Intel.
Joseph Cohen that’s an expensive solution just to get on par with Intel’s gaming performance.
Joseph Cohen You cant tell the difference between an Intel System and a Ryzen one playing side by side...well thats not really true, the Ryzen one will be smoother.
2700x(oc to 4.2 with 1.4v) 16gb 3000mhz= 1869(cinebench score)
Jack Nguyen nice
Excellent work, precisely what I needed to know!
-Matt
Why is nobody reviewing the 2700?
What's up?
No need to, the 2700 does the same thing and is overclockable the only difference being the X series come Overclocked from the factory but not a whole bunch.
a question what is the temperature at 4.1ghz thanks
he said it hit max 56C at 4.1
@@goatman86 my stock, non OC max temp is 61 C. I have a hyper 212 evo. Do I need better airflow?
@@coows I'd say if you're not planning OC it's fine. But that's just my guess. My last built PC is over 8yrs old :)
@@goatman86 ok
@@goatman86 use blender and you would get about 98c
nice one jayz, i learnt a huge amount about overclocking process there.
Jay, can you also overclock the 2700 non-X?
Darkswordz not much difference at all
Unlike intel, AMD dont remove features, non-X just means less likely to OC as much
Nah, the difference with X is that it is automaticly overclocked and the stock cooler is better. The rest is just silicon lottery. Dont ever buy the X-version if you are gonna overclock manually with a 3rd party cooler.
Just upgraded my good ol' i7-3770k to an R7 2700x went from 759 (i7 3770k) on cinebench to 1923 (2700x) .... im very happy with my ryzen so far... now lets see if it can hold up all these years as good as my 3770k.
what clock where you running the 3770k on? im on a 4790k @4.4ghz (boost to 4.8) and my cinebench is 747...
@@toasty2438 4.4ghz :)
@@DanielMystisk that kind of surprises me then, how your older cpu got a higher bench score than mine :/ rip i guess?
@@toasty2438 i was suprised myself lol... its actually been running stable at 4.4 since i got the pc... thats pretty good quality :) been running custom EK- watercooling tough (nothing fancy just two 240 rads and a bay reservoir.) Using Corsair H100i AIO on my new ryzen build, i didnt want to go thru all that custom watercooling again, its a pain to set up for the first time.
@@DanielMystisk
Interesting I just redid the CB15
826 no changes, must've remembered it wrong ^^'
that's nutty, I'm running on a dark rock 4 and it's surprisingly cool (max temp 60°c) even at 4.8ghz sustained load
I could crank the base clock to 4.6-4.7 and boost to 5ghz but then it'd be at 70'ish to 75°c
As always, when it comes to overclocking and overall information about the topic - man, this is such a great video, Jay!! Enjoyed watching every minute of it!!!!
stock i7 8700k, 16gb 3200mhz CL16 ram. CINEBENCH SCORE: 1425.
I'm gonna try an overclock now, just installed the i7 today. :)
Edit: did a 4.7ghz overclock. Score was 1558.
Edit2:i did a 5.00ghz @ 1.350V with a Cinenbench score of: 1654 but temps were reaching 90C so thats not good :)
Ooo your should be able to get 4.9-5ghz area as most chips seem to land there with reasonable voltage
Damien I did it safe for now with a 4.7ghz overclock. I don't really now how far I can push my 240 aio.
Reinart_The_Fox I'd stay close to 1.35v +- .03 for daily usage as long as temps are under control
Matt Bellas
1 second ago
HELP ME PLS :'(
Ive got a 8700K, running on a Asus Z370E... I can put it to 4.9Ghz at 1,38v but temps are around 85-90c (cinebencz R15 1558) what are your temps like and volts?
Delid your CPU, had the same issue, no other way to get around such high temps while overclocking (I've got Corsair h115i), it's 'normal' from Intels perspective. Because 'runs fine stock'.
got my 2700x to 4.25ghz its a beast
HOLYONE A.K.A Ultimate Gamer what motherboard are you using?
I know this upload is a bit old now but its by far my favorite 2700X overclocking vid. Super easy to follow and really helped me make an educated CPU purchase decision.
My i7 980X (1st Gen) clocked at 4.0ghz gives a CB15 score of 965. Not too bad at all for this old CPU.
Higher than my I7 3770 at 4,3 GHz!
yep my x5650 pushed higher breaks the 1000 mark which I was so happy. but its time to retire it for a 2700x :D
Haven’t tested yet but system is
Ryzen 7 1800x
16gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000mhz
Msi Aero GTX 1070
Corsair H100i v2
MSI Gaming Pro Carbon X370
Will update once I do tests
Hey pro i just got the same motherboard that you have how is it in overclocking is it good i hope i did make good choice
damn thats my system but my mobo is the crossair 7 lol
great video, I got this CPU for a first time CP builder and this video will teach him a lot.
R7 1700 @ 3.8 Ghz, RAM 2666, score 1582
DUDE 1902 IS AMAZING!!!
SUPER IMPRESSED. THIS IS SO COOL!
WOW 1933 IS ABSOLUTELY A BEAST. INTEL CAN NOT TOUCH IT! TOTAL BANG FOR THE BUCK KING!
I like the laid back feel of your videos Jay. 👌
Ha, my core 2 duo will beat all of you.
Oh yeah? Whats your CineBench score. Mine is 115 pts.
mine is core 2 duo released in 2008
116 today.
@@TheDuramax66 536 on my i5 4460
@@tonkatoytruck Hah no match for me! I've got 164 on my e7600 😂
fx6300 @ 4GHz 8GB 1600DDR3 CB15 score 452 I know i need an upgrade LUL
i had my fx6300 4.5 ghz getting over 1500 in CB20, push your overclock
fx6300 is good for the $$$
I was going to do a fx 9590 which might be the best FX CPU But .... am3+ Mobo's doesnt support DDR4 ....Soo i went with the 2700x😂
I got 454 on an i5 2500k (not overclocked)
fx 8300 4.4 ghz 8 gb 1600mhz ddr3 score 800 hmm
I switched to AMD with the first Ryzen line up and I couldn’t be happier. It’s handled everything I’ve thrown at it and I’m rooting for the red team
"we want control of everything!" -- megalomaniac :D
Can you revisit this 2700X doing a BCLK OC? I've seen some good results from just a 103-104 BCLK and leaving the stock boost mechanisms enabled. There are side some side effects if you use some other PCIe cards in the system but should be fine with a single DGPU and a BCLK OC. Also it would be good to see if there are any significant FPS gains to be had with this OC and then a BCLK OC config or if it is mainly productivity load performance gains. This is a great video either way, thanks Jay.
Turns out I didn't need to overclock mine after all - 80% GPU usage vs 15-20% CPU usage in games is absolutely where I want to be!
1260+ Cinebench doesn't hurt, either. Tried a 3.9 all-core overclock and barely got over 1300. Not worth the extra volts.
I would try an undervolt but it's very difficult to get a non-fixed undervolt stable at low loads. Let's see what Ryzen 3000 can do... assuming the leaks are correct I've got my eye firmly on that little 3300 :D.
I can finally buy this CPU! Ha!
bless up for black friday
Can u let me know if your stock fan is loud when gaming
BOBTHEHOMIE 13 no I have the 2700x with the stock prism it’s quite af
@@bobthehomie1313 is really loud at heavy duty, ryzen stock coolers are good for looking but when u overclock it to 4.2 it will get loud and hot if you live in a country that has 20c'+
@@io2194 I live in Antarctica, is that good?
good video
Just built my 2700x system (Gigabyte Ultra Gaming and 16GB RAM). Very pleased indeed at stock speeds and the quickest build I've ever done, all worked first time. Then Win 10 did its endless update, which wasn't quick but, you know how it is.
Very pleased indeed.
Ryzen 2700x
Asrock X470 Taichi bios 1.35a(beta bios) tried the new ones and even emailed for a newer one but my ram timings would keep resetting the pc for some reason. I am completely stable on 1.35a
Hydro Series™ H150i PRO RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler AIO (6 fans push and pull)
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB 3200 (2 x 16GB) 16-18-18-38 Hynix
1 x SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe Internal SSD
This is mostly detailed compared to the rest of the comments:
www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11825214
Cpu running at 101 bclk with a negative offset -0.075 which gives me about 4.4ghz on single cores, my max temp on prime95 small ffts would max out to 75C running my cooler on max everything.
My cinebench Varies from 1910 to 1920, exiting all the programs and putting on realtime priority. I still have my antivirus in the background eventhough its offline it still has some shit running.
single core is 184 cb (high priority)
Running my hynix kit on custom timings 3366, when i ran the orginal xmp profile it game me like 43000 and 42000 and 40000 with 70 latency
AIDA64 cache & memory Benchmark
Read: 51686 MB/s
Write: 51551 MB/s
Copy: 50819 MB/s
Latency: 67.2