H&K VP-70M on the Range: How Useful is the Burst Fire?
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After looking at the history and mechanics of the VP-70 yesterday, we are heading out to the range to try it out (and thanks to Trijicon for generously offering use of their range!). I am curious to see just what that 2200 rpm rate of fire is like to shoot, and whether the awful trigger is as much of a hindrance to effective burst shooting as it is to simple semiauto. So, in addition to some shooting of the VP-70M, I will also be comparing it to an MP5...
Thanks to H&K for providing access to bring you this VP-70M!
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" ok let's see what happens in three round burst" ...pulls trigger....four crows fall out of the sky, one car in the distance explodes, and camera guy falls over .
Sounds like the shotgun from Daikatana.
@Rob Bro, got a good laugh outta this xD
Rob Sorgdrager 😂
lol I guess better than the M14 on full auto. At least this time he didn't shoot a plane out of the sky and wipe out a heard of buffalo
@@ironraccoon3536 The fact that someone out there made a daikatana reference in recent times proves one thing: ANYTHING can have a fan base 😂
“Ah, an awesome choice stranger, It’s got a three round rapid fire capability, although it uses up ammo rather quickly.”
@John Doe No RE4
@John Doe nothing says "my balls haven't dropped yet" like calling someone a child on the internet
@John Doe sick burn bruh, scathing
How badly do your parents regret not getting that abortion?
@tf2redpie I thought I was done with this
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"Heheheh, thank you"
VP70: 18 shots 16 hits
God tier MP5: 18 shots 19 hits
Lmao
It’s so god tier the last bullet hit the enemy’s gun, pulled the trigger, shot the enemy with his own gun, and hit the enemy.
For the price of a vp70 with stock you can get a glock 17/19 and a chassis or brace setup for the fraction of the price and also you can have 50-100 round drums for “zombies.”
🤣
Yeah but the Glock is ugly.
It's funny, in the Resident Evil 2 remake if you read the description of this gun which is the lead character Leon's starting weapon. It says "Non-standard issue gun, with problems that make it impractical for the general public." lol
looks like someone at Capcom watches forgotten weapons
I always shoot 1 bullet instead of 3 bullets in the game, otherwise it misses the target.
I wondered what that was supposed to be. I thought it was a fictional design given the Leon the Professional reference. My first exposure to one was a James Bond pen and paper RPG back in the 80s. The stats were definitely better than reality.
hah i noticed that too...so fucking cool
I noticed ingame the rate of fire with the VP 70 the 3 round burst isn't nearly as fast as the real thing.
That cyclic rate is so fast it sounds like one shot.
I know. First thing I think of is the time my dad got to attend a test-firing of an M61 (I think this was when they got them for the F-106s he controlled); they put something like a 100-round belt through it, he said at first he thought it malf'd because it sounded like just one cartridge had been touched off.
William Prince Amen, when Ian turned to the camera after the shots at the “tree” I thought he was going to tell us it was malfunctioning.
PS. I think HiPoint got its styling cue from this ugly ass gun.
Yep, looks like it's just vomiting out three casings at once lol.
I was thinking the same thing.
me too sounds like full auto.
1:50
Gun: "brrrrt"
Ian: "hmmm" - not impressed
Gun companies: nooo you can't make a pistol that sounds like an A-10 warthog!!! D,:<
VP-70: Haha bullets go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
That sums up the whole vid
This just seems like a shotgun with extra steps
@Theodore Corkrean Hmmm seems unlikely
@Theodore Corkrean yes but if you consider the fact that each degree from center each bullet is fired translates to a massive spread further out, the viable distance on a shotgun is likely greater and more effective
@@wuvs2spooge The better choice for a much longer range with still tight grouping would be a a multi barrel rifle like the hunting rifle he showed in one video. It shoots 7 rounds of .32 acp at the same time!
000 Buckshot would put twice as many similar sized projectiles in a much tighter group at the same range, but the cool factor of the VP70 far exceeds that of the old reliable 870.
@@justforever96 It was a humorous quip, touch grass homie.
While the MP5 was the "gold standard" of subguns in the 80s and into the 90s, the VP70M is just hella cool.
"...and verily, having only 6 steel plates on the dueling tree, did Gun Jesus rest on the seventh round."
Lo and behold, he inserted 18 rounds in the MP5 magazine and with it he produced 19 shots.
I was waiting for my daily sermon pastor. Thank you and all hail the Moses Browning.
"And on the Seventh shot, he hast unloaded thine arm, to lube and make clean, as hast the user Manual has commanded, And seen it was good" so sayith Gun Jesus Ian.
He rests because he is out of ammo
Definitely an “aim for the crotch” weapon.
And recoil would lead you to the head!
Just like any weapon of course
Leon in RE2R : 24 rounds, ok fire rate, ok reload.
Leon in RE4 : 100 rounds, second to reload, bloazing fast rof. And btw you can't remove the stock.
Mandala Elk it needs the stock to be burst like there’s parts in it that make it burst
@@Kami_N7 Well you're not wrong, but what he/she actually meant is, unlike in RE2, the matilda (VP70) in RE4 comes with the stock, and you cannot remove the stock. But in RE2, you start with matilda w/out the stock (semi-auto), and the stock is available as an attachment making it a proper burst pistol, but it shoots way slower than irl or in RE4.
Irfaan Ali Yaafi yeah I guess that’s a little annoying but idk maybe the internals are a faulty or something perhaps?
@@irfoxe And frankly, Matilda is a stupid name for that gun.
@@princenoah21 it is named after Natalie Portman's character from the movie Leon: The Professional
Not as good as the MP5, but I can attest that this gun works fine against zombies in really tight quarters.
In simulations anyways
Why does that sound like resident evil
@@lamborghinimiurap4005 Because it is.
@@grimes558 pogger
Way to put them down 😂
You don’t really notice how much muzzle rise there is on the normal speed, but it is quite pronounced on the high speed.
I wonder if this could be combined with the Hudson H9, for better recoil management...
It's cause of that heavy ass blowback slide. Even a good comp wouldn't fix the rise on the vp70m... I swear the cz skorpion is like the only worth a damn machine pistol design.
@@aceman1126 But isn't that chambered for .32 ACP? Hardly comparable to a 9mm Luger.
im wondering having an add-on like thomson gun to reduce the muffle rise will have an effect on it?
@@Arthurzeiro In full auto, it doesn't matter if it's a .22LR haha it's not like you'll be doing it from long range
I think it honestly might be a totally viable gun if it was 2 round burst instead of 3. Essentially an AN-94 concept, where you're placing 2 shots in the time of 1.
I noticed he was shooting two round burst on the MP5, because of his trigger control. I verified by slowing down to play speed. He would certainly do better with the VP 70 M if it were shooting two round burst, too.
I can dig it.
That and a nice fast cyclic rate on top, that could be good.
Now he needs to do a Berretta 93r. Someone please hook him up?
YES!
@@arthurmead5341 ummm... what?
@@arthurmead5341 how does larry vickers suck?
It's almost like they wanted you to aim for just above the groin, so the recoil moves you towards the chest-head area. It's interesting, seems decently accurate on semi though. Good show Ian.
One in the groin, one in the heart, one in the head, 100% intentional muzzle rise
@@cdgonepotatoes4219 And you feel yourself get hit in that order so you get all the pain before you die.
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 truly, German engineering is marvellous
I swear this is just Ian saying thank you to those who watch to the end.
Wanted one so bad after playing Resident Evil 2 with Leon, hoarding all the pistol ammo until I got the stock-burst upgrade.
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20 years and 11 guns later I'm glad I know more about guns to know fanboy-ism doesn't always pay off.
Jay Chen only 11
What's interesting is that the MP5 was also supposed to be in the game.
@@jonmeray713 shhhh didn't buy my first gun until Feb 2017. Needless to say all of my saved hobby money is now kaputs.
@@NinjaKurosai not quite it was the hk51 (in the prototype named after the airsoft mc51) which was in resident evil 1.5 also instead of the vp70 stock you could find a m93r to get the same 3 round burst idea. in the prototype there was close to 30 weapons things like the m93r, spas12, ruger redhawk, mc51, hand grenades (acid flame and frag)
Just goes to show how statistically the odds of not only Leon using that gun but actually finding the stock for it in a police station he has never been to before lol
A favorite of Redfield-lineage-continuers.
S+ Meme
Leon: "No Way F@&!"
HA! I was keeping track and thought “Hmm, could have sworn that was 19 out of the MP5” then the scene cuts and I'M RIGHT! HIGHLY PROUD OF THIS POINTLESS ACHIEVEMENT OF MINE
I'm proud of you too
We are in the future the g11 is now nato standard
Mika Chan The G11 Lmg variant has a 300 round mag that can easily be reloaded by openin, tossing out and sliding. A new one in. G11 lmg variant looks very hi tech!
Except for America who will adopt their own rifle in their own round and force the g11 to be rechambered
@@christopherzarcone1363 Exactly what happened with the M14.
@@mikuluver7 The M14, the rifle that only even existed because Springfield Armory
both made the rifle and was in charge of the testing to select it. And then they told Congress that they could save money by reusing all the M1 Garand tooling to make the M14, which they actually couldn't do at all.
@@RyTrapp0 The M14 is possibly the worst rifle the US ever adopted.
@Forgotten Weapons
So what you are saying is that it's totally likely that a rookie cop from a Midwestern town would use that to defend himself against engineered bio-weapons infections and would be a plus when fighting 7'4'' tall infected scientist with a giant eyes on his shoulder... but wouldn't be useful for say, an American Agent doing rescue in the middle Spain where he would be better off with a Mauser C96 with a stock attachment.
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Yes, I'm a huge Resident Evil fan.
Is there any way we could make you a slightly smaller resident evil? I don't like my residents to be too evil, or large.
Edit: Aw, you fixed the typo.
His beginner handgun looks like an HK USP (x5 crit rate), his second handgun is a Five-Seven (penetration gimmick), then the C96(22 bullets in one reload and actually true to real life), and then it's the Springfield XD (from wikipedia, I don't even know Springfield is making modern pistols).
But we all know that the most effective weapon in Resident Evil series is always the Remington M870 shotgun anyway.
Isn't that the same American agent that unironically uses the street sweeper as a better shotgun than the better and more reliable in all ways pump action shotgun he found before? Without even using the butt-stock if i rembember correctly...
@@MarrowChiller
Having a resident that is evil is a proper biohazard if you ask me :/
5+ headshots to kill a zombie? This gun is a joke.
That’s how t-virus works
You must be playing on Hardcore mode.
@@aydon1276 a lot of people. Most people doesn't start NEW play through on Hardcore. They start in easy or like me i start the 1st play though in Standard mode.
@@aydon1276 Yeah but that's how people play. You don't expect every new player that start the game playing on Hardcore. Are you telling me all people should start out playing on Hardcore? Hell i start playing the first Resident Evil on the PS1 on Normal. That's just how most people play them. If you play it your way nobody is complaining. I'm just saying that Majority of people doesn't start out playing on Hardcore.
@@aydon1276 Well the original uses Ink ribbon to save on any mode. So...
I saw one of those in a gun shop years ago. I owned a VP-70Z, with some practice it was quite accurate. His description of the trigger pull as "atrocious" is spot on.
I own a VP70Z and I approve this message
The looseness of the stock mounts probably hurts the accuracy a fair amount. It seems like there's a bit of wobble in the mounting points.
I did see some wobble during the disassembly... Was wondering if that's because part of the gun wasn't there at the time.
@@TheRealColBosch
Well, you could make a stock that would line up your shoulder with the slide and therefor negating the heavy slide, well i guess than you would also have to move the sights to a higher position.
All mass is in the front and the connection pins of the stock are way too small. Make it a wibbily wobbly timie wimy stock
I noticed the side to side wobble in the takedown video, but I feel like the muzzle climb is more related to just how stupid fast it's firing.
Wow! I expected high cyclic rate, but not that high.
In the previous video, I think he said 2200 rounds per minute.
I love how usually 3 round burst is seen as way to give better fire control over full auto. But in this machine pistol it's "Full auto would empty the mag in a single blink and hit everything except your target. So burst is our only option"
How well would Ian do on a Raccoon City type scenario?
Gun Jesus: 1 Raccoon City: Saved.
Good
What zombies?
I’d like to imagine Mr.X running for his life as he hears a Chauchet jam in the distance.
Wow, that was some awesome slow motion on those bursts. I love the progression of "Ok, good shot... wait, where are you going... oh, god i can't stop". Like if it was a five round burst, you'd have been shooting at the tops of the trees.
I was thinking “ man I wish I could see the shooting video today “ and then I magically appeared here.
All you have to do is "Believe"🌈🌠✨✴️
Gun Jesus answers your prayers.
@@MrRoboskippy you said it talking gun!!!!!
Its interesting to me that two HKs hold the record for having the worst and sweetest trigger. That VP-70 has the worst trigger I ever felt and the HK P2000 with the LEM trigger has one of the sweetest trigger I have messed with.
Leon S. Kennedy sure has unusual choice for a pistol. Unusual weapon typical of German ingenuity, Very interesting gun.
Aida used the metilda
@@jaytex93i6 No, she uses the Mauser HSc. It's also of German origin.
In game explanation is that the RPD replaced their Browning Hi-Powers for the VP70 due to the 18 round magazines in order to combat the growing levels of “violent activity” in the city.
@@charlescraft5582 Well, we can all see just how well that panned out for them.
Ar'ight everyone! Don't panic! Just avoid your past self and keep a low profile till the loop is complete and this all blows over!
DerWeltraumcowboy it’s that close distance to the mythical G11 vid, the kraut space magic is bleeding thru the fabric of the internet
@@Pdro-gw7lu They couldn't fit so many parts into the gun conventionally, so they folded its space-time.
Glitch in the Matrix
This is why you don't sneeze with an open canister of anti-neutrons!!
You just made me REALLY want a Wright/Peggy/Frost time travel movie...
Ah! An awesome choice Stranger! It's got a 3 round rapid fire capability, although it uses up ammo rather quickly
Never knew the VP-70 came in a select fire configuration. Once again, thanks for dropping some more gun knowledge. I literally come on RUclips to watch one of your newest videos and 6 hours later realize I’ve spent a good chunk of my day watching your extremely informative videos. Not complaining, just wanted you to know how great your videos are.
"Bit of advice, try using knifes next time, works better for close encounters"
reyian451 “true, about what”
"Leon, long time no see"
or, in this guns case... use both :)
im not joking, this gun, aim for legs, then knife them, works a treat.
Hacker voice: "I'm in"
I wonder if it would be more usefull in 2 round burst, avoiding wasting the 3rd shot above the target...
Probably more useful if the trigger pull wasn't like 8+ pounds. Shot one of the 'Z' semi autos back inn the late 8o's, and the trigger was so bad you could not hit a darn thing. We just figgered that was what the high mag capacity was for
It would probably have been more useful to drop the burst mechanism and stock all together and just focus on building a cheap last ditch pistol.
I think most burst fire guns would be more accurate as two round burst, I'd gladly take the tradeoff of "less firepower" for more accuracy in that case.
At that point why not make a semiautomatic gun with a better trigger pull and train your operators to double tap
@@The_New_IKB Isn't the point of burst fire to avoid throwing off your aim by pulling the trigger rapidly? I mean, I'm even less than a rank amateur when it comes to live-fire but I've noted that firing too rapidly on semi makes me more likely to fire to the side of my target.
You know I always thought mitilda having 3round burst was fake. But I like that it's actually accurate to the real gun 😊
That thing looks like a Tokarev and a hi-point had a baby and someone put a Remington 870 stock on it. Holy Frankenstein, Batman!
It looks like the old Walther PP's
As far as the shot dispersion, there is a school of thought that putting multiple shots in the same hole or very near, minimizes the damage potential. The wound cavity encompasses an area larger than the diameter of the projectile so having shots that spread the damage over a larger area can create a more efficient stopping capability. Either way, getting shot is one of the best ways to have your day ruined regardless of the grouping size. Nice video as always and I agree with some of the other comments, it reminds me a lot of a Hi Point.
Well...it's a 9mm simple blowback made to be as cheap as it can be and still work, so the comparison to the Hi Point is rather obvious. Well, except for the burst fire mechanism integrated into the stock of all things...I think that's where the German engineering genes broke through after the gun itself came out way too simple in its design. :D
Funny the russians thought dropping two rounds almost on top of each other would be better(an94 2 round burst at 1800 rpm comes to mind)
More rounds per trigger pull is usually done for hit probability not damage. Although more damage to a target or a targets armor would be a useful side affect especially if the shots land in the same spot. But this pistol seems to be based on the former not the latter based on these results. More of a magdump really.
@@jonmeray713 I thought that was supposed to defeat body armor, damaging and shattering the ceramic plate with the first round and penetrating with the second. That isn't something you'd be worried about at the point in the cold war this was made, and even if two rounds were to impact the same spot a 9mm would probably still be insufficient to do that particular job.
That sounds good until you realize it's saying an uncontrollable gun is better than one that behaves. Which is obviously silly.
Lol I thought it was still on semi at first lol.
Ian, your impecable coverage of a wide variety of awesome unicorn stuff like this is why I have been a subscriber to your content since the GunLab days. Hell, even before RUclips I watched your dad on TV when I was about 10 years old talk about Arisakas on the History channel's "Tales of the Gun." Keep up the great work...
As garbage timer as this pistol is known for being, I’d still love to see a remake but with lessons taken from Glock, Smith and Wesson and Springfield on the trigger design. The overall outer build is a good smooth design that would be ideal for drawing from concealment and the simple blowback operation would make repair and maintenance easy as pie. Blowback obviously has is downside and it effects accuracy but it would be a good starting pistol for the average Joe (again with a better trigger design and lighter pull. Maybe a trigger pack like the TT-33 but reworked for use in the VP?)
It would also need a safety
It would have been fun to see a comparison to Berettas M93. Now even if the VP-70 was never a success I still like the look of it.
Actually Colonial Marines from Alien 2 are still using VP-70 ;-)
The CZ-75 or Glock 18 full auto would be a cool comparo.
And Leon Kennedy seems partial to it ;)
You mean a 93R?
At least those have a foregrip of sorts, I feel like it'd be easier to pull down onto the target.
@@xmm-cf5eg one reason I would like to see a comparison between them... Although a Stetchkin APS vs Glock 18 would also be fun :-)
The MP5 like John McLain used in Die Hard, my favorite Christmas movie
This channel is the best! Your research and retention of knowledge on firearms and weapons is impressive!
Is that Leon's pistol from Resident Evil 2???🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Might have to dust off the old '98 PlayStation
They remade RE2 and it’s absolutely awesome
Yes Leon uses a VP 70 in 2 and in the Remake. Atlhough it was renamed the "Matilda" in RE4 probably for licensing/copyright reasons. You can get it in RE4 as a special unlockable gun for Leon.
Man, is that thing fast. I first thought, Ian has forgotten to switch to burst. With the MP-5, i could hear it clearly, with the VP not so much.
The VP-70M is a strange contraption... On the one hand machine pistols are a less than ideal invention on their own since recoil makes them so hard to control and remain accurate in fully automatic fire (or even a 3-round burst mode), but you can still sort of see the point of them. Basically you want a pistol that can also function as a semi-auto pistol but has the option of spitting out a lot of lead in a short amount of time, in a small, pistol sized package.
Whereas a sub machine gun like the MP5, also use pistol caliber ammo, but is more custom made for full auto control and accuracy. In turn making the weapon bigger and more bulky.
The VP-70M on the other hand doesn't do either... It needs the attachement to get the added functionality of 3-round burst, but also end up making the pistol more bulky, unlike something like a Glock 18c or Beretta M93r. So it kind of circumvents the point of using something pistol sized when you end up turning it into some kind of carbine anyway.
Can't say I've felt the trigger pull, but let's just say that double action is not my cup of tea.
@@justforever96 It tries to do both pistol and SMG, while doing neither particularly good. That's my objection.
Not sure if you're familiar with the game "Resident Evil 2". But I believe this is the same gun the character Leon has.
Wow, slow-mo completely changes your face! So glad you did this vid, I wanted to see that thing shoot.
Damn, that was fast! Sounded like one shot at first
Awesome footage as always. Thank Ian. Wicked cool pistol/machine gun. Love the fact that it was so far ahead of it's time that in the 80's it was cast as the side arm of Space Marines in the movie Aliens. Lt. Gorman uses it in the HVAC system to kill Xenomorphes. (It's a bug hunt)
Just wanted to say I love your regular content with the history and breakdown of guns, but I also really love these range videos where you talk about the gun a bit and show the grouping and stuff
I had a toy replica of this guy as a kid and it just became my all time favourite pistol for no particular reason lol I just love the look of it
I've always assumed that the three round burst capability would best be applied to very close contact engagements!
Such engagements, up to and including point blank range come down to instinctive firing without use of the sights, and in these contacts the three round burst would be preferable to semi-automatics fire.
Whilst the shoulder stock may be useful, I wouldn't expect it to be used in close quarter engagements.
Well as you saw in his dismantling video, without the stock the burst mode doesn't work
As soon as I see the “Mathilda” i expected the comment section would be flooded with Resident evil references
An awesome choice, stranger! It's got a 3-round rapid fire capability. Although, it uses up ammo rather quickly.
Thanks for another great video. I loved that gun when I was a kid. I saw it in magazines and thought wow 18 rounds in a handgun!
I wonder what the manufacturing cost and time was for the vp70m compared to the mp5.
Also should have been compared with the MP5K, stockless.
i assume way cheaper
simple mechanic also less metal and polymer material
@@francislematt7079 How would that be a useful or even fair comparison?
Francis leMatt why? This gun has a stock too
There are actually similarities in construction. The MP5 trigger housing is also polymer with a metal trigger group inside. I don't see why the MP5 would be any more expensive in R&D/manufacturing (I could be wrong). Two more things, this was actually a pretty fair comparison as the VP70 cannot be operated in full auto without the stock, and the group Ian shot with the MP5 was okay, but there are people out there that can cut that in half without a problem.
H&K make some amazing weapons.....
Great video, IMO. You thoroughly showed how the gun works and how effective (or not) it is in burst mode. Still an amazing little gun though, to me. Thank you for creating this (and the previous) video.
Love all the shooting videos
"Let's see how this compares with an MP5". Aww yeah!
you can see this Pistol in the movie "Aliens" from 1986 ;)
First time I got to see Ian shoot and I must say I am impressed.
I have always loved the graceful lines of the VP70 and I just realized the VP70 looks like the futuristic big brother to a Walther PPK/S.
Well it might not be as good as a MP5 but it's a HK pistol with a "shoulder stock holster" and that's just Cool!
Nice hat by the way.
Ian : "I'm going to try to get that top plate"
Also Ian: *Judgmental Hmmmm*
So glad I found this channel. Great videos by guys who are obviously normal dudes who love their hobby and aren't stuffy. Awesome.
The G11 was built around the concept of putting 3 rounds on the same spot through a similar cyclic rate while on burst fire mode. With this much lighter but also much less powerful gun, you already have a significant muzzle climb on the first round. I won't even ask for a range video on the G-11 because the tooling to make the ammo was either scrapped long ago or is rusting away in a warehouse, but it would be interesting to see if it has the same issue.
Raccon cities finest used this fine weapon
Pretty sure only Leon carried this piece. Everyone else carried a Beretta.
@@TheZero1er And Hi-Power, the Beretta was still in the process of phasing them out.
I wonder whether this was inspired by the G11 9mm proof of concept guns or whether it was just someone looking through the basement saying "Hey, I can make a handgun out of this!"
More like, "Hold my beer..."
It must be sheer coincidence. The G11 redesigned a whole chamber structure to achieve that while the VP-70 just has a traditional blowback design and its rof is most likely due to it's overly powerful spring for its striker fire and blowback structure. Also with the obvious fact that the G11 was designed a decade and a half after this pistol.
I was able to shoot one of those. It had a very heavy trigger pull. No one wanted to purchase it when it was legally available out here. Now I realize that it was worth acquiring.
I really hoped to see this!
If the gun was designed for a volkssturm type of organization, not known for great marksmanship, maybe the large spread was intended to ensure that at least one of the rounds landed on target.
If they're trained to aim at your nuts, the rounds c/would hit you in the gut , the chest , and then go whistling over your shoulder. Still hurts.
The bad trigger pull makes it useless. Even with the burst mode. It's a shame because it could have been a nice gun otherwise.
Basically no gun in history has every been designed to be deliberately inaccurate, despite many claims to the contrary. The burst fire mode *is* meant to improve hit probability, but more as a way of compensating for the shooter's natural inaccuracy than by introducing even more inaccuracy.
@@Tobascodagama Would you call an open choke shotgun "deliberately inaccurate"?
@@Tobascodagama I'd say duplex rounds where almost designed on that
MARTY, YOU'VE GOTTA COME BACK WITH ME
Tadokat I’M STAYING IN THE FUTURE DOC!
I discovered this gun in Resident Evil 2, back in the early 2000s when I was 10. Never saw one video of it until now. Really interesting gun.
I've always wanted one of these.
"aahh an awesome choice stranger. Its got a 3 round rapid fire capability, although it uses up ammo rather quickly."
For a moment I was happy, but what will I watch tomorrow?
Ilkka Harmanen Tomorrow is Saturday, Gun Jesus’s day, which means it’s time to hit the range.
I'd like to give shout out to the great people behind scenes that help make all this possible. I really like these range videos and with out the help oh H&K and trijicon this may not have been possible. Thanks to everyone!
Now we know why Hi-Points look like they do. From the heal mag release of the early haskells to the polymer evolution of today.
Makes sense that it is a robust design.
Thanks H&K for inspiring Hi-Point
Marty! We have to go back!!
the rate of fire in burst mode is almost as fast as this video came out
So cool, doesn't look like it's doing anything, then you see it in slowmo. Crazy!
Gotta give the VP70M some props for actually firing reliably at that firing rate. According to wikipedia it's 2200 rpm which puts it 400 rpm above the burst fire on the AN-94.
I think that the VP70m has potential, but it's light weight, poor trigger, and zero recoil reduction really hurt it's performance. If H&K resurrects it with a better trigger and a comp, it would probably be more successful than its predecessor. Installing better sights may also help.
No it doesn't. You could improve it as much as you want and it would still be a direct blowback pistol with a stock. That's basically one of the least useful class of firearms in existence.
It kind of look line an Ugly High-Point.
I actually thought it was a Hi-Point from the thumbnail alone.
Do not insult the vp as a high point
May have a worse trigger than a HiPoint. But it will last longer.
Опа! Здарова, Ларс.
So...Just a high point?
Great video, and thank you!
Not many people talk about how great the magazine is to load on the VP70 range. Heck you can even do one hand load of rounds if needed. Probably the best part I enjoy about mine
The merchant says :
An awesome choice stranger..it got 3 rounds rapid fire cab-ability although it uses-up it’s ammo rather quickly..!!!
AND
I see you have an eyes for things
GUNS NOT ABOUT SHOOTING..ITS ABOUT RELOADING..you’ll know what I’m talking about..!!!!
Vp provides its own suppression fire ?
Just an awesome video that I really liked.
I like the way it sounds.
You know your rate of fire is fast when a three round burst sounds pretty much like a single shot! I guess now we know roughly how fast Vash the Stamped can shoot his revolver, Trigun fans, hahaha!
Ah, memories of playing as Leon in Res 2 😍
I love how Ian doesn't even say he'll put you in your place. He put you in proper context
I guess it´s easy to explain the burst dispersal when you see, how smal the connection points between gun and stock are and how it moves during the burst shooting