Stargate Universe - Did Eli survive the journey in SGU?
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This was the first Stargate series I watched from the start and I would love to see a continuation of the series.
I’m really looking forward to Stargate, the musical
@@reread2549 dont even speak of such an idea. you sick sick person!
Same here. Not sure why they ended it
@@robertwilliams450 it wasnt making money. its viewership dropped massively throughout season 1 and season two it was still dropping by the end. i do agree. season one was daytime soap opera. it was bad. season 2 got so much better but season one killed it from having any chance. i would have loved if the new series was going to be getting them home but from my understanding that script was dropped.
check the comic
Imagine the shock of the rest of the crew when they see how much weight he's lost
Starvation
or gained. SG Command sends him supplies and couple of mK3/MK4 Naquadriah reactor. it has enough supplement power to get the ship to the next safe sun and life support for 1 person.
Mk1 reactors was used by Atlantis to help power the city segments, MK2 could power the city defenses.
Mk3 or Mk4 could act as a micro ZPM. allowing Eli to survive...
but being alone means you are susceptible to depression, which makes people starve or eat excessively
@@eisenklad He can use the communication stones. Spend 2 years pretending to be someone else and doing math stuff during the day while someone else has to sit in a room and not go insane. They keep swapping people out in my version.
@@nexusdrop7863 oh right, forgot about the stones.
@@nexusdrop7863you've got stones to say that 😂
I really wanted this adventure to continue. I loved all the Stargate series.
you miss a big plot device from early season 2 the Seed Ship, either Eli or the Destiny itself contact the next seed-ship and it comes to the 'RESCUE'.... if it can build star gates it can build spare parts for the destiny.
Interesting solution... it could also act as shelter. Though, the food situation remains a fatal issue.
Although he could use the seed ship to create a "gate-bridge" and use a space-suit to travel along and await Destiny's arrival on the other side.
That is a good one. Destiny seems to have a lot of automatic features to survive. Running out of gas mid galaxy trip would be a thing to plan for.
This is a plot device that the writers would probably never do because it would be to convenient and straightforward and logical. Instead they like to pull plot armor rabbits out of there hat at the last moment. I always thought it was a very convenient and lazy plot device in Stargate Atlantis to only have 3 ZPM's to power the city with no redundancy, and an entire city with no manufacturing capability of new ZPM's, weapons, replacement parts etc. And if it were ever brought up, they would simply say it was damaged in the flooding.
@@nexusdrop7863 The Destiny couldnt have planned for it, because the SGU crew overode its systems to force it to skip the galaxy it was in. Its going way off course, to go around the entire galaxy, and then cross to the next galaxy without stopping at any stars like its supposed to.
@@alphega1983 yea that always bothered me about atlantis. when the atlantiens or the replicators took over they instantly make zpm's but when the humans were there they didnt even find where they were made. like how?
Eli fixed the pod but didn't go in straight away. He started learning more about Destiny and fixing other important areas of the ship after repairing the other repair drone and sending them out only going into stasis as necessary. To think otherwise says his character development didn't happen. 0:20 That look on his face, he knows what he has to do and that he can do it.
Exactly. They could do flashbacks of what happened while he was up. They could even show an episode where an asteroid belt or some system failure hits the ship and destroys a bunch of the pods and kills half of the crew that they can't or would rather not recast. Few episodes of Eli being emotionally damaged because of the loss of all those lives. They could also show him overcoming all that, and then triumphantly fixing the ship and like you said, other important systems. They can show his character develop through flashbacks.
@@anikinkhan Oh damn, I like that I didn't even really think about having to recast or kill off some people including important characters but that's a good solution
@@anikinkhaneven a mini series about Eli trying to save himself would be nice
Yeah, I agree with this kind of idea. We last see Eli with a look of contentment on his face.as if he knows what is ahead of him, is looking forward to accomplishing something, and more that ready to take on that challenge. I thought it was the perfect way to sign off with Eli being the one with the destiny of the ship more or less in his hands.
Or his smile being.. He could wander around Destiny in his underwear like he did at home :)
One big option you forgot: he went to the chair and uploaded his conscious and his body died when he couldnt repair the pod and out of options (and is there together with what was her name? Gin, his love interest, and theres already another woman in there if i remember correctly?)
This was always the way I pictured it going... with Eli becoming essentially like Destiny's AI co pilot...
Eli was too good to fail and have to upload his consciousness. And Amanda Perry was the other woman's name, Dr. Rush's love interest.
This was indeed heavily implied, and the way I concluded SGU for myself.
Although I do see the possibility for the Chair room to act somewhat like a stasis chamber. Meaning, it might be able to preserve his body, while the mind is connected to the ship, but unlike in stasis chambers his mind would remain conscious throughout.
Mind you, it is implied that the chair room can act this way, because it gets cold inside, when it operates. And it does connect "tubes" to the body.
@@bikkiikun Yes... If I recall, I wrote maybe an A4 synopsis of my thoughts at the time... that he would gather all the resources he could into the chair room, and hook himself up for extended periods, trying to prolong his life as long as possible... That was my idea for the start of the next story, was his lonely journey, seeming to find ways to extend and extend his life, watching over everyone as they slept, maybe fight off the odd invasion... and when everyone woke up, they would sadly find that he had in fact died some considerable time earlier, and much of what we'd seen was essentially his subconscious... kind of like what they did with Clara in Asylum of the Daleks. Oh - spoilers.
@@bikkiikun yeah I hear that but that would also consume quite a bit of energy, and that was also a point of why everybody went into stasis, not only the time but energy requirements, because they would run out before reaching the next galaxy and would be set adrift in the void between without hyperdrive, so I like to think he has to sacrifice his physical form to save the others from 100's years of sleep and waking up like old Wier from SGA (ok its not 1000s of years but the destiny was older tech also then atlantis but whatever) so he becomes part of the ship
Eli survived, got himself strong and fit, and managed to repair parts of the ship including the status pod with the help of Gin and Amanda. but chose not to use the pod and he had found something deeper into the ship that had him curious. and the fact that he had Gin and Amanda to talk to help him from suffering loneliness or going nuts because there's just him alone in a big ship. I really want it to come back it's my favourite stargate show.
There is a comic book that goes over what happens to Eli. He did survive. You can find it online.
to my understanding, that isn't exactly canon.......sure, it might exist.....and i have a story line as well that i wrote.....neither of them are canon
Comic book isn't canon.
it is A version. Lacking anything else I take it as official. If they continue the show then I could understand it not have happened officially.
He survived in my imagination as well.
Not sure how others see SGU but I always considered it to be Eli Wallace's story as it started with him and finished with him. And given he was the one documenting what was going on with the use of the keynotes, it kinda makes sense this was his story.
Start the episode with Eli in a space suit (he'd been spending time in a space suit to conserve rss as it takes a lot less energy/air to make a suit livable than an entire room or shuttle). He's been on his own for years now (easy explanation for the aging of the actor), Destiny came out of FTL short of the next galaxy and has just been coasting through the remainder of the void. While he's been wearing the suit, he would have been exploring portions of Destiny that had been closed off due to hull breaches. His motivation to do this could be curiosity, boredom, or just a desire to do something useful with the limited time he knows he has. Maybe he's even been making some repairs along the way as well to keep busy. During his exploring, he could find a McGuffin that would move the story forward. It could be something that provides additional power, maybe even enough for a single trip through the Stargate back to Earth. That could be made to be a dilemma for Eli. He'd have the choice to use up the power source to get Destiny the rest of the way to the next galaxy, and remain trapped on it, or he could selfishly use it to get home. It would be a selfish dilemma because maybe the wormhole would only have power enough to safely allow a single person to make the trip, or say Destiny no longer had the power to maintain life support between the stasis area and the gate room leaving Eli no way to take anyone with him. Knowing the type of person Eli was, he'd of course choose to use the power to shorten the trip. But you can't make it that simple. To make it interesting there could be a new enemy, or some natural threat to the ship, that shows up as Destiny is coasting in the void between galaxies. That would put Eli under a time crunch to interface the power source with Destiny's systems, raising the tension. There's a bunch of different ways to take the end of that story, depending on the threat against the ship that's used. I think it would make for an entertaining first episode of a new season. Even if they don't want to green-light an entire season, I hope they will at least give us a miniseries or a movie to tie up that story.
I would think Eli survived bc: 1- He's super intelligent, 2- His character is an integral part to the storyline & 3- His character is so well loved by so many that it would be blasphemous to kill him off. (Imo) 🖖
I loved Eli! ❤
Your # 2 is very important. It gives Eli "max plot armor". 😅
@@chrisschembari2486 🖖
we could only hope that the writers wouldn't be like George RR Martin......kill those you love, save those you hate.....sorry Sean Bean
Sorry when the crew comes out of statis they need to find Eli dead , it brings home the real cost of their survival.
@@lonknight3197 Eli IS stargate universe though......it would be like killing off Jack O'Neill or Daniel Jackson in the movie.....or Samantha Carter or Teal'c during SG-1
The only get-out I could think of was that he fixed the pod eventually, but at the cost of changing some power systems around, so the ship went a little slower to its destination, and the pods didn't do their jobs as well. So everyone has aged a little bit ... thus fixing the fact its been over a decade since we've seen them.
Would live love to get another shot at this show. Was so bummed it ended
I hope Eli lives. Because I want to see what happens to the show.
Now I’m really hoping there will be a new series. Or at least a movie with Eli in it.
Speaking of which, what is the actor who played Eli doing now? It's been several years and COVID happened in between. Is the original actor still around and interested in making a comeback?
I'm a huge SG-1 fan from day 1... took me a while to adapt to the new version of SG... but once you do... no going back... it's lime the adult version of SG... so wish we get so many more seasons... personal opinion... leaves SGA for DEAD... think about it 🤔 ay!!!
@@DarkVoidIII yes. I think it should make a comeback and the cast member David blue played as Eli would make a awesome epic mini series or a movie in its own. As far as the third season of stargate universe goes in my personal opinion would be great to have a third season.
@@jnrmac8270 I use to be a stargate SG1 fan. Then when Atlantis came out I switched. I’m still a fan of Atlantis because of David Hewlett. He played in a lot of tv shows I watched growing up.
Then when stargate universe came out I also became a big fan. But it left a lot of unanswered questions and ended with everyone wondering what happen, what’s next? Yes a third season would be great to have or even a movie for the ending of did they make it home or settling some other planet. Also with David blue aka Eli.
Now that in Itself needs a story of its own on what happened to him after everyone went into the sleep pods. A small mini series or a movie on itself would be great. A lot of us is still holding onto our. Seats waiting to see what happens next.
Honestly. Best music in any show I've seen. This music used to make me tear up loads. You really feel you know the characters well through the tune. Feel like it represents them well and their situation.
I loved how that Johnny cash poster and songs just tied so much together
Don't forget to breathe...
Spot on, amazing track @@TheErador
I think that little grin at the end was him figuring out how to fix either the ship or the pod.
Another option is that Eli finds several repair drones ( like the attack drones in SG, although Alantis.) . He fixes them , and although slow, they allow him to repair sections of the ship that are sealed due to hull breaches, giving him access to more storage of materials, food stuff, and databases. He even finds a data file for an Ai intelligence and a biological android body for it.
or better/worse, he finds a section of the ship, that the Ancients had turned into a mini-FTL space! a few pods in permanent FTL-that also has all the "people" connected into a VR-type setting!
All this time the "Ship's Engineers or Emergency Crew" was been waiting, but due to some reason or damage, has been stuck all this time in FTL-Stasis!
The ancients sent a remote self aware repairship that the ship finds and docks with it then repairs the ship completely. So that all 100% of the ship can be explored.
Good theory for destiny to receive unannounced visit from unknown repair mission
Don't forget he also has the stones, so he has the ability to communicate with SG Command and Atlantis and loan his body to others. In the short term this could help with the "fixing the pod" scenario by allowing SG command to basically replicate the CO2 filter troubleshooting scene from Apollo 13 with the stasis pod. Alternatively, in the long term if he has to take refuge in the shuttle he can use time with the stones to maintain his sanity by taking "time-outs" on earth interacting with others while also getting help with finding solutions to any challenges, maybe even taking up some new hobbies (like maybe he receives combat training during his time visiting the SGC), or helping figure out how to power a resupply gate-mission.
It'd be kind of funny to if at the end of the two year crossing everybody wakes up to find that not only is Eli much more buff and is suddenly able to strip/maintain weapons and operate with the military crew, but he actually knows all the latest news and trends back on earth, and they wake up to find that the stargate has just shut down from receiving its first resupply mission from the milky way so Eli is walking them through all the cool parts and supplies they just got.
We didn't see the planet builders in SGU but we did see their influences, the planet with the tower that group stayed at, the solar flare sending them back in time to save themselves and returning the crew that was left behind. And my theory is the planet builders are actually descendants of the Destiny crew. We don't know how many times they were sent back in time and if one group was sent back 1,000 years, who's to say another group wasn't sent back millions?
I think they are the ascended ancients.
@@nexusdrop7863 Nah, that goes against their rules
@@nexusdrop7863could be a different group, just like Ori.
@@khaansulu5695 that only applies to the Ancients in the Milky Way Galaxy & some from the Pegasus Galaxy! who's to say some of the Ancients that were originally on the Destiny didn't ascend, but decided to interfere as they saw the state of the different Galaxies... especially if they kept encountering different types of "Replicators or mindless-robot-eradicators"!
Remember when Teal'c got caught mid-transit in the Stargate buffer? Eli could do the same...basically a Stargate version of Scotty's solution to upload himself into the transporter buffer in the Star Trek TNG (S06E04). The whole first episode drama could be the crew trying to figure out what Eli had done and retrieve him before they cycle the Stargate. For what it is worth, it was stupid to sacrifice the best person capable of getting them back to Earth if he couldn't get the pod working.
Ha! didn't think of that, I thought of the chair immediately, and ascension (would be a horribly unsatisfying deus ex machina, but it is an option for this franchise, and one that it's canon can be reversed), two others OP seemingly forgot about, but I didn't think of that one.
I always thought that crew would defrost from the cryopods and Eli would be missing. Not dead, missing. Destiny would be in better repair, Eli had done a lot of work on his endeavors to save himself. The chair was put off limits by a restored Gin. The crew goes over his vlogs, there are hundreds of entries. It would be the central mystery of the season.
At the end of the season it's revealed that he's not missing, instead he's hiding because he has gone "strange" and is talking to himself about things no one understands and for some reason he doesn't show up on the ships sensors.
@@davidchapman370 Like the functional ancient memory bank transfer system we saw in SG1, just with less side-effects XD or his GIGABRAIN enough to just go mad from it, and not complete vegetable or accession :D
Though i like brokenfut6025 idea, make an ENTIRE SEASON 3, of SG:U about crew finding out what happened to Eli, and how quite a number of repairs on the ship is done. They basicly, find his notes, learn that they ran out of power before reaching the new galaxy, and they were adrift... and that in like 2~ day's destiny will be able to reach a nearest star to resupply on energy, and they find out that the capacity of said energy, is 2x more then it was able to hold before they went into stasis, and episode by episode, they find out that Eli slowly repaired parts of the ship, and found more about it, and repaired a lot of 'crucial' systems, or better yet, entire compartment filled with spare destiny parts, and fixed a wopping shit ton of problems the ship had. Until finnaly they unearth what happened to Eli, and it can go multiple ways, he survived, he died, he ascended(by accident), uploaded himself to the ship via chair, saved by planet builders, stuck in a jerry-rigged junkyard Eli-built stasis pod frozen, waiting for them to get him out.
maybe he accidentally half-ascends, but is stuck on the Destiny, due to a mix of wanting to reach the endpoint & wanting to stay with his friends! or Gin! or even trying to figure out how to give Gin the chance to Ascend too!
Eli only had two weeks worth of excess power to use before Destiny shut down life support to keep the stasis pods running.
Two weeks to either fix the broken one or not and find another way to survive. Personally I would want him to explore the ship (he & Chloe had done this accidentally) and find either more working pids or a way to survive.
I always liked the idea that Eli survived by rigging stargate into some sort of feed back loop, the crew are trying to search for him only to find the gate acting strange when they touch the controls and it actives and Eli appears walking out like nothing happened, making reference to how Scotty saved himself by using the transporter on star trek next generation and no one gets it
Its possable that would work I remember one of SG1 getting stuck in the gates Buffer and having to be rescued.
This may have been technically possible, assuming that the Destiny Stargate has the same type of pattern storage buffer as the Earth Stargate had: Remember that the Destiny Stargate is thought to have been one of the first ever created (if not the actual first) and was composed only partially of the Naquadah element. The Earth Stargate and all the other Milky Way Stargates were composed almost entirely of Naquadah and could connect to any other gate within the galaxy, whereas the Destiny Stargate could only connect to other gates within a limited radius of the ship, which only represented a small part of whichever galaxy it was travelling through.
The only exception to this being the ability to dial Earth - essentially a special gate program hard-wired into the ship, so only the Destiny Stargate could do this - none of the otherwise identical gates installed on planets along the Destiny route would be able to connect to Earth, even if they somehow had the extra power required to make such a long distance connection.
In fact there were several different "generations" of Stargates which became progressively more sophisticated: The Destiny Stargate and all the similar gates installed by the "seed ships" along the Destiny route were first generation. The Earth Stargate and all the other Milky Way gates were second generation. The third generation was the Atlantis Stargate and all the similar gates in the Pegasus galaxy. For completeness, you could argue that the Ori "supergates" were a generation 4 design.
Anyway, even if the Destiny Stargate was capable of doing what you suggested here, I doubt it would have actually been a viable way for Eli to survive. Remember that the entire point of putting all the crew in the stasis pods (which use hardly any power) was because the ship needed almost its entire energy reserve to make the 2 year long FTL jump to the next galaxy. So it had to use the bare minimum of power for anything other than the FTL drive and shields, which meant turning everything else off, even life support. I think it's fairly safe to say that this would have included the Stargate so unless the buffer feed back loop idea could have somehow worked without using any power, it would not have been a viable option.
In fact pretty much any other method you can think of for how Eli might have survived (other than fixing the stasis pod so he could get into it) runs into the same problem - if it requires using more power than would be required to keep life support going for a couple of weeks, then it isn't viable: As soon as you exceed that, you start eating into the reserves required for the FTL jump. If this is shortened by even a tiny fraction of a percent, then Destiny drops out too soon and would be left powerless and drifting for years before reaching the first available star at the edge of the next galaxy to recharge itself.
Do you mean solar-flare time travel?? If so, interesting, but that comes with a hitch... the stargate moves and after those two years it would have crossed a distance much further than what the gate would be able to reach, nomally. Mind you it can't even conect to every gate in the galaxy... but let's assume it is possible, crossing the void would require lots of power that destiny simply doesn have (without risking to fall short and drift for many, many years, centuries or millenia, before reaching the next galaxy with a bunch of corpses on board).
Or do you mean he rigs the Stargate in a way, that his pattern remains in the buffer, like Scotty did in that Dyson Sphere episode of TNG??
Both would be possible, but that also comes with a dangerously high probability of lazy-writing. Deus-ex-machina moments should be rare and very far inbetween.
@@bikkiikun He did mention Scotty's method. I like the time travel one, maybe he could plan something super sneaky and high five himself on the way out. The new version shows up, gives him directions, and send the old version to complete the tasks the new version already did - no paradoxes or extra Eli hanging around.
My theory was that Eli figured out how to use the energy scoops in the space between galaxies.
I think the same thing. I think the light coming towards the ship would be enough to run the life support for himself if he dropped the collectors. In the end Eli finally had a second to think and he realized that. That’s why he smiled then frowned because he would still have to spend the 3 years alone.
I always imagined that the planet builders could possibly be ascended beings.
The whole issue was that, if even a single person was alive and not in one of the pods, Destiny would run out of power before getting to the first star in the next galaxy. There were only a couple of days that Eli had in order to fix the pod before he had to commit suicide, that’s why Rush was forced to get into the pod because the Colonel refused to think that Rush in the end would kill himself in the allotted timeframe or risk the entire crew and ship drifting for centuries to maybe drift into the next galaxy. So, unless Eli fixed the pod in those few days, he should be dead from suicide.
The ship have more than 80 living quarters, so there had to be more than 80 pods.
How about: the crew wakes up, in a galaxy they AREN'T supposed to be in and ELI is missing. The first season is figuring out what happened to Destiny and Eli. Clues are randomly scattered throught the ship. Eli has accessed most of the ship. Evidence of a fight. New defensive weaponry is on the ships exterior. New offensive weapons are designed but not completed. Blaster marks and debris are scattered throughout. Eli is shown in flashbacks and recordings negotiating with an unknown species. Fighting another using newly gained tech. The ship is adrift near a blackhole, preventing or limiting stargate activity to 1 planet. Bring back a race from SG1, there are a few to choose from the 5 that would make sense.
The crew has to decide to go home or keep looking for Eli. Some leave, some dont. The ancestors of the Destiny planet have caught up to Destiny and assume control or provide assistance. Merge the crew out of necessity. Soo many ideas.
Eli searched the ship and found another pod.. somehow he survived.
Just like Destiny has/had seed ship(s) to build gates ahead of it, it would be cool if Destiny had a tender ship that while in between galaxies put Destiny into "dry dock" and perform automated repairs. The tender ship would have gathered resources from the previous galaxy to fabricate repair parts. This way Destiny would be able to continue indefinitely.
I still remember about the show from time to time and still sad it got cancelled. Really hope the series will be properly concluded one day.
Well, the writers certainly intended for him to survive somehow. They've all said as much. They just never got the chance to make it happen (yet).
The space between galaxy's is not always empty. There is no doubt that some random planets and stars lurk in the dark.
Option 2 isn't an option. He would likely deplete their resources so when the crew woke up there would be nothing left for them. That and two years of solitary confinement would likely make him completely mentally unhinged.
The cliffhanger was THE most rivetting thing on tv for that decade. Loved it. Miss it. Watch the DVDs occ
3:11 My PERSONAL theory, how eli survived the journey _AND_ how all of them aged accordingly .. and why it took _that_ long finally is.
Eli was unable to fix the Pod at first.. But then discovered, that he could manipulate the ships systems so that _all_ pods would lose a tiny amount of energy, on top of driving the hyperspace with less power. So he actually became able to restore the function of the final pod he needed.
In effect, all of them would start to age normally while in stasis and the journey could take longer than 2 years. But they all would survive as they were. At least. ;)
Lots of simple solutions but I feel like there could be a number of step he’ll need to complete to save himself. Some are menial fetch quest but other might require huge sacrifices. He could strand himself on accident given the choice to go home or try and keep saving the crew, get advice from an ascended being, find some kind of AI that helps him and keeps him sane.
Maybe the writers will use a little known Astronomical fact....The 'void' between galaxies isn't really empty, there are star systems between galaxies. you can use these star systems as steppingstones. to the next galaxy.
i personally like the idea of Eli having uploaded himself into Destiny
after doing such, he realizes that they didn't have to skip the galaxy
he accustoms himself to his new conditions, and then wakes up the first few crew members....we'll say, Rush, Young, Chloe, Scott, Greer, and maybe a few others
He comes over the ship's com and tells them to meet him on the bridge, which is where he explains his idea
they will go to another star with a command ship, and all of the drones, they will take control of and magnetize them to the haul. And from that point on, they will continue to do this, any time they need to recharge, or just stop for fun
he will take every effort to not make physical contact, so that no one realizes he isn't physical anymore
they come to a point, we'll say about 50 drones, where Destiny simply won't jump....it could be 100, but i will say 50. Now, Eli knows that they can store more IN the ship, but rather than always having the answers, he allows someone else to come to the realization......he is trying to keep up the charade as long as possible.....for what reason.....i haven't gotten to yet......but part of the reason will be, a growing consciousness in the ship's network
of course, the command ships come to realize what is happening, and so they start teaming up.
the crew comes to realize that to really deal with this properly, they need to destroy the place where these ships are being made
the fun bit, is that the audience wouldn't even be aware of Eli's condition until the ending of the 3rd season....sure there would be hints throughout the season.....but there is always an explanation
Eli essentially becomes as secretive as Rush.....and even has his own corridor, that we get a first look at in episode 3, but the rest of the crew doesn't find out about until atleast episode 15.....always "sneaking away" not being able to be found...ACTING LIKE Rush
During this time, Rush and Young actually become close confidants for each other.....and Young regularly asks Rush, you had done this, what was your motivation.....obviously, not exactly asked like that, but in a manner that would show the two of them becoming, even, friends
Greer......he doesn't want to think anything negative about Eli, but there would be an event that would sit wrong, even for Greer
about episode 8 to 10 maybe, somewhere around there, Eli would say that he needed to think about something, saying that to Greer, and turn to walk away. Greer would be certain that Eli took a specific turn, and head that same way to say something to him......but it would be a dead end. Greer would be outrightly confused. That would probably be episode 8, and then Eli gives a plausible explanation in episode 10, of taking a different path. Greer, thinking Eli isn't a liar, accepts the idea, and moves on from it
there would be other hints up to this point. He gets out of sight, for a second, having turned a corner, and someone runs to try to stop him, and literally only a second or two from him turning the corner, to the person trying to catch him, and he is gone
nothing solid, but all of these little hints
then, the final episode of season 3, either Eli is alone, and he misses making physical contact, and we see him put his hand on a console, and we see it go into the console.....or, he looks at the console, deep in thought, and then disappears.....one of those two
season 4 would pick up as a flashback, showing Eli trying to figure out the stasis pod, and then back to regular time.....then another flashback, the regular time, the another flashback......kind of like the first episode. There would be about 5 flashback moments, culminating on the eventuality that we already know, he sits in the chair.....but it would explain WHY he came to that point.
And season 4 would be, by episode 10, young and rush finding out. I am debating if they find out BECAUSE of chloe, or if she remains in the dark for a bit longer.....but rush and young will keep it a secret until Eli is ready to show the rest of the crew, which he does by the end of the season......but, in a strange way. Everyone is gathered together, with the intention of Eli telling everyone.....but then some catastrophe, where everyone has to jump into action, and it is severe enough, that Eli says that he will do the calculations and meet them on the bridge, and he simply vanishes, leaving all the rest of the crew shocked......and the episode ends on that cliffhanger
It is definitely a better story if he does survive, and not just by fixing the pod, but instead by his own epic journey, maybe involving stuff from the unexplored sections of the ship. Maybe a few days in, as he is working on the pod, realizing it cannot be fixed without jeopardizing the others in stasis, a warning signal from the ship goes off, and he has to put on an environment suit and go see what it is…
Atlantis used their "Worm Hole Drive" to instantly go to any spot in the Universe in seconds.
High power cost, yes, but still.
It is a fiction, thus open to a plethora of ideas.
Eli wouldn't survive without outside assistance... I started a fanfic that included the end of Destiny where he decides he can't fix the pod so uses the stones to go to Earth and see if there's any news on help. Eli was given access to the SGC database which includes all Asgard and Ancient data obtained and comes up with a plan, use the Ori Supergate to establish a link to Destiny; but that will take months. I wrote a lot more, but he does survive and everyone wakes up shocked to discover Destiny is full of personnel from the SGC and Eli (now leaner) having accessed the Destiny's control chair, has the Destiny's knowledge that's aided in getting Destiny ready for the SGCs arrival.
I have several thoughts on how Eli could have lived long enough during this entire break between galaxies, including between TV series.
1) He was able to repair only part of the capsule, only the freezing function, so that he could join the team in stasis, but unfortunately, this required too much energy and they had to fly another 10 years to the nearest star. At the same time, Eli prepared a video recording in the Cinema for those who wake up, so that he would not be accidentally killed in an attempt to return him.
2) he stretched energy resources by transferring everything needed into a narrow zone, maintaining which would not load the ship long enough to be profitable. A couple of compartments between the control and the restroom, so that there is somewhere to eat, sleep and defecate. As an aside, I like the idea from the comics that he was able to reduce consumption by opening the star's chargers during flight, but this is too ineffective, and prolonged use of them eventually led to a decrease in the efficiency of energy collection. So now fate must charge even longer, while having only a small fraction of the original Volume. If earlier they could charge, if I remember correctly, by 40%, now this number barely exceeds 30%. However, in search of a solution to the Capsule issue, Eli finally found the drawings of the ship, and left in the notes the path to them, and what materials and where they are can be found. He could also find the only Matter Replicator that the Ancients would use as a multifunctional printer. (his part for printing organic matter is damaged, which will not allow him to make food, but at the same time he is somehow capable of printing tools, and at the same time ammunition for the team (let them shoot at someone normally)
3) When repairing the capsules, a breakdown occurred in the system that prevented aging, which is why everyone on the ship seemed to be in a coma, aging, but did not need food. (this way it will be possible to return the entire cast, without any problems with the fact that too much time has passed, and also to explain why certain characters are not there, they simply continue to lie in capsules, since they, like Eli, may not survive awakening.
4) In the new system, they may encounter the wreckage of another seeding ship, the ship has already been destroyed by a new enemy, but has long been abandoned, and Parts from the wreckage will help the Ship patch up some of its vital systems.
In general, I would like a full-fledged season to complete the entire Arc of the series, but a full-length film would be nice.
Eli sat in the chair.
I know, power.
Plot armor. The chair has its own power supply.
The chair is basically a stasis pod.
The rest of the crew wake to find Eli there to greet them. Some did not survive of course. But one of the crew goes to embrace Eli and goes right through him. He is a projection of himself.
First few episodes are figuring that out as the chair room door is closed and a figure can be scene through the smoke in the chair.
my headtheory was always that the pods sustained but wasnt true stasis and the people inside still aged so when the series eventually restarted they could explain their 10+ years aged
SGU without Eli or Rush just wouldn’t be the same.
My theory: the crew wakes up, can't find Eli, just a KeyNote with a garbled message that makes them think he's dead. They spend an episode or two mourning him while repairing the ship. Then, when they go to use the Gate, he pops out of the event horizon, having futz with the gate to save himself in the buffer. Happy ending, until the next crisis.
I like the “Finding his own solution” option. Maybe he’s poking around the computer core (since Rush had it opened) and he finds research on food replication and power generation. Of course it can’t all be that easy so there would need to be some small issue at least. Maybe the power generation isn’t as simple as it seems…
What if the most unlikely attacker in SG:U saved him: The Berzerker Drones. The drones contact their owners about the attacks from the Destiny and this information is processed, and some alien entity decides to go visit Destiny to find out what really happened and investigate the situation. They are pretty powerful drones maybe their owners did not intend for them to do what they did to the Destiny and want to set things right?
Three options:
1: Eli dead
2: Eli came up with an ad-hoc solution to stow away for the 3 years without breaking things. His brain is probably half broken in this scenario.
3: Eli pulled a Franklin and is no where to be found, except maybe to come haunt Rush.
At this point, they would likely have to do this as an animated show since it has been so long since SGU was in production. Whether he survived or not would then be predicated on if they could get the actor to come back to the show.
The SGC potentially has access to Ori technology as well.
My head cannon is at the end when he smiles then frowns is him finally having a chance to look around looking out at the swirling colors and realizing what it was, it was light. If he dropped the collectors that would be enough light to keep life support running for him. But he frowns realizing that he’d still have to spend the time alone.
Hopefully they find him well, big n buff not dead in the corner, shrivelled and rough💪👽
Necessity is the Mother of Invention. Desperate necessity is a Great Motivator. Life & Death necessity is the Greatest of all Motivators. Captain Kirk was a firm believer that there is no such thing as a No Win Scenario, I ascribe to such a belief. If anyone aboard the Destiny would "Solve" this problem, Eli is that guy.
I always wondered why they didn't have pairs of people who rotate in and out of hibernation? Thay is why no one is alone and no one is forced to stay way up for decades?
because they couldn't.
They only had enough energy to power a three-year FTL jump if everything was turned off, including life support - that's why they went into the stasis pods.
As it was, Eli had two weeks to find a solution to either the pod or the power problem.
After two weeks there would be no more margin of error and Eli would have to shut down the life support to allow Destiny to reach the next galaxy.
Telford was so enamored with that Ursini hibernation pod that he secretly brought one aboard when he rejoined the crew. Eli found it in a storage room and tied its computer into the quarantine partition of the ship's computer where he and Ginn could be together for the long haul. The End.
Wasn't a big fan of SGU at first but I stuck with it because I'm a big stargate fan. By season two it was my favorite SG series. SGU was cancelled just when it was getting good.
they did have atlantian space suits on the ship maybe eli managed to fix one up enough that he could have traversed to previously unaccessable sections of the ship cause he would have had to vent oxygenated compartments, and with eli being alone he didnt have to worry about that as much so with the suit he can travel the ship more freely.
A runway star. Web has found several of them
It was a big ship so it only logical to think that there were more stasis pods than just the one they found.
He might find information in the data on the ship relating to prototype ZPM research and built a makeshift power module. that would have been cool and very on brand for Eli.
The logical solution, Eli repairs the maintenance bots/system, slowly without constant interruption from the crew he gets more of the ship working, discovers more stasis pods, when they arrive and wake up they find the ship almost fully working.
I had found on the internet 8 scripts for the 3rd season. Now i have no clue if they were fan scripts or officials, but my search was only about a month after i heard of the 3rd season not going ahead. Basically the builders you mentioned did rescue Eli, only about 1 day before his supplies ran out, (the crew were using up the perishable food b4 they went into stasis, so Eli only had about 2 weeks to survive/repair b4 he would have to shut down excess power (his life support)) Eli was frustrated at failing to fix the pod and he found himself on a planet in a house. I wish i could find the links to the scripts i found but it has been a while. Keep up the good work.
I´m partial to a Wormholedrive using Rescue Ferry from Earth, as it is the most
logical Way for Earth to keep a semblance of Control over the Destiny. The SGC
or rather Homeworld Command would want to keep Tabs on the Ship and the
result of it´s Mission, so building a Ship that can reach that far would be smart.
In comics he found another bank of pods that had original design crew who actually got accidentally launched with it.he woke them up and they fixed it so they could recharge the ship and upgrade weapons and shields to withstand the drone ships
I always felt that comic was a cop-out to the issues the show left. I'm okay with him finding more pods since they only explored a tiny section of the ship; but finding ancients in them felt wrong to me. like how do you accidently send people with the ship and then not have the ship wake them during the numerous issues it had over the millennia of flight. It is about as realistic as carter building a super-Naquita reactor that can have any gate reach the destiny without issue.
he survived in the comic...found a room with frozen ancient builders woke them up they knew how to auto repair the ship to like new woke everyone up ect....it was a decent few comics
Seeing the old gate system would have been found in the Atlantis library. Which could be used to send puddle jumpers all the way to destiny with ZPM's and technology to give aid.
not everything is Atlantis Library.
ZPMs and research that the ancients made after abandoning Atlantis(Merlin's device)
the ancients have a bad habit of abandoning stuff.
Destiny, The Antarctic outpost, Atlantis city ships and their home planet/Ori homeworld.
They drained all the zero point modules moving Atlantis to earth. The Or'i are no more. Yes they have the information on how to create the ZPM but not the understanding. Same thing with the Tolan Ion cannon. The technology is so advance they can't make sense of it.
The most 'true-to-the-series' solution is one you didn't explore.
Eli would be missing. And the first 3 episodes would be about finding him, getting him back. Followed by an obligatory half season of him not being 'quite the same'
What if he found a way to ascend and then unascended somehow after the crew wakes up.
It’s hard to believe it’s been 15 years since the series ended. He could’ve survived with some alien intervention.
It would be cool to go through the crates where the robot was found and find an early version of a ZPM and other repair supplies that they just didn't have the time capacity to look for but were likely there the whole time. I was always waiting for that to happen and it would make sense with the storyline. It would make perfect sense for the ancients to have pre-staged those supplies for their future occupation of destiny That never came to pass
He read all of the SG1 mission logs, so he rigged the gate to store himself in the buffer.
SGC befriends the Ori priests and they share tech and a power drive that can fit through the gate and get them all home.
I've always thought that Destiny was never met to be able to dial home. I always assumed it was going to be a one-way mission when the ancients created it.
My guess: Eli would have survived alone for a long time, maybe showing signs of mental breakdown. Then, one day, he encounters an alien race, he goes on some grand adventures with them and he's a better man than ever. The aliens help him repair a hibernation pod and the ship and then he goes to hibernate with the crew because he misses them. When they wake up, he recounts his tale with the crew.
the Destiny was NOT left between galaxies.......they were only a third of the way through that galaxy
now yes, Eli said, "out and around this galaxy" indicating the idea of, we are going to change course the make an immediate exit out of the galaxy, and then we will change course again to go around the galaxy to reach the next
however, presumably, Eli had just put the last few in the pods, and then within the first day, went to the observation deck.
technically, it could very well have been that, the scene of him being at the observation deck's windows, that COULD have been meant for, if they were able to pick up a season 3, and we find out that, that was 2 weeks after Rush and Young went in......that could be when he figures out how to fix the pod, or when he decides to upload himself into Destiny
Yes they would of found him in a pod but he would have a story that would carry them through 2 seasons with a new/old enemy/ savior.
If they come back with SGU, maybe they can have aged appropriately to real life and throw in something like, "Eli took 1 day longer than he was supposed to to fix the pod which caused them to drift for X years."
One thing you did not consider, Eli used the Stones and traded places with people who had the necessary manual skills and could do the repairs. A general guess would be that they had only searched 5-10% of the ship. Maybe he found things in the storage holds that could have been used to repair parts. Just my two-cents.
The comics had some ancients on the ship in stasis that woke up shortly after everyone went to sleep and that journey never happened.
One that might work is that Eli explores uncharted areas of the ship, ans while he makes discoveries/repairs, etc. he finds another group of pods, and that's where he takes his nap. Of course, one of the reasons why things are "different", is that something happened with what he was doing (whether its another seed ship, some sort of cosmic event, a race tried to dial the Destiny, etc. the writers will have to sort that out), causing the 2 or 3 years to become 10 years, and suddenly everyone looks different and older, including Eli..... well that's my 2 cents on it.
Maybe when Ship hits a critical level of damage, it activates an auto repair system..
Maybe he finds a way to activate the old auto repair system. That has emergency power supplies..
However to do so he must awaken his Blood line.. And become someone who uses his mind to play with things around him...
Even to the point he uses his new powers to animate a puppet he made, to walk and talk, as a second personality of his grows..
In other words, he would be on his way to ascending, but only 50%. As he does so with ship's info and guidance.
The story could then revolve around his mental growth, and failures, as a side story!
This way writers could use the idea that hopeless events can cause him to grow!
And hint that this was the plan of the ship's AI all along..
Making one realise the pod failure was the ship's doing..
All to make him start to awaken...
Eli went cannibal while the victims were in suspended animation. They were revived missing arms and legs when they finally reached their destination. Eli had gained a considerable amount of weight.👍
Of course Eli lives, he met Q along the way, they became great buddies, and made Eli a Q too. And they all lived happily ever after. The end. I just saved everybody from all that angst worrying about him, and saved the production companies a lot of money from trying to do a remake.
Loved this series, but never watched the back half of season 2. After it was cancelled, I never got up the will to finish it off.
I'm surprised there wasn't more spinoffs of SG1. Like SG2, SG7, etc. with the character dynamics and different worlds that could have been explored. There could have been crossover episodes where they met up with SG1. There were so many wasted opportunities.
They missed out on making a really cheep episode, or several episodes with just 1 actor in it. He was also the only character that was not annoying.
I'd like to think that Eli would have found another room of stasis pods, maybe they weren't functioning, but in better condition than the one he couldn't use... and he would have got one of the pods working and waited out the journey like the rest of the crew.
I always thought they should wake up to find the blue aliens running the ship...
(maybe with Eli and the blue aliens working together in peace, that would have been a fun twist)
Eli also might have during that time found another sleep chamber section by accident aboard that they didn’t know about and made use of it when he was finally finished taking care of other things.
i have a head canon for Eli to survive. it involves the beings that created the Drone ships to appear.
my theory is the Drone ships are made by Guardians that limit people who want to access the origin of universe ( from the signal that the ancients detected and created the Destiny to reach)
the planet builders have move on just like how the ancients have ascended.
but the Guardians who understood that the Galactic reset/creation device should only be activated after the end of Everything.
these guardians also gave the ancients ZPM tech, which for some reason in the whole SG franchise, humans never found the tech for, we seen ZPMs scattered and tech to create alternative power source , but nothing that makes zpm.
the Asurans could make ZPMs because they copied everything the ancients had. so only Repli-Weir can make ZPMs for humans.
that's a can of worms.
an extra race in shadows that seem good is bad or bad is actually good.
first Unas, seemed evil in Thor's hammer, but Shakka and other tribes was good.
the Tollan was neutral, then good then foolish.
Asgard was good but SG:A now have the malicious rouge faction.
so having The drone makers that appears to be very strict/evil, turn out to be the saviour would fit with SG.
why else would the Ancients leave Destiny empty? they acquired an informal alliance that gave them ZPMs, a near infinite power source compared to destiny Solar scoops.
and they can move the city ships through hyperspace using 3.
but the Ancients got caught up with the Wraith, and the Drone makers wouldn't allow more ZPMs risk falling into wraith control.
thus the Ancients were left to fend for themselves.
The best and grittiest SG series, but there was only two seasons.
He had 2 Weeks to fix the pod. At the conclusion of 2 weeks if the pod was still damaged he had to kill himself. If he chose to stay alive, the power drain from running Life Support would have extended the ship’s travel time markedly. And when the crew finally revived, he would still have died, but from old age.
I have to disagree on one point. The Ancients didn't need a planet with a Naquadria core as a power source. Remember when Eli cracked it during the base attack? It was meant to be dialed from Earth. They would have likely done it with a ZPM. We needed a planet because of how far away Destiny had gotten. If it had gone that far and the Ancients tried to get to it, they probably would have hooked up a few ZPMs in series. One of the things Eli could have done is use one of the space suits to explore the areas they couldn't get to if it was just an issue of atmosphere.
What was the size comparison between the Destiny and Atlantis. I can see there being loads of space on Atlantis not opened, but not so much on Destiny. Note, after Atlantis landed next to the Golden Gate bridge, I reevaluated it's size as well. It basically straddles a slightly greater than 1 mile body of water, so not tremendously huge when talking about the size of a city. I admit, I am not sure at all about the size of Destiny though, I did not know whether to compare it to one of the Ancient Atlantean ships that used to dock at Atlantis or was it bigger.
Note, I do recognize the difference in Atlantis Tech and Asgardian Tech.
Fixing the repair drone service bay would be be a good use of dwindling power that puts the crew in danger and kills off non returning cast but Destiny comes out all for the better. Bam, Opening! Eli is a hero but he's distraught he's killed crew or rather blames himself for using that power. He struggles, some like his approach (Rush) some don't.. more hard choices, odd signal, incoming activation, closing credits.
I think the best way to bring the show back would be to change the main character to whichever actor looks like they haven’t aged. And it be from their pov being the last person to be woken up. If everyone else was awakened offscreen before that person it would explain why they have aged.
Example person wakes up is greeted by someone who is older and is told sorry it took so long to wake you up, it required a lot of power, we’ve been waking people up slowly over time. It’s been like ten years not three. The last galaxy was a piece of cake, it was huge with no enemies and tons of supplies, and all we did was wake up a person at each star recharge. Now we’re headed out of that galaxy fully stocked and repaired and the last thing to do is wake up the last person.
I'd say either repairing the pod, or finding out there was more pods in a location that they couldn't reach without some repairs. They were talking about trying to repair areas that were unsafe to enter when the attacks got started, plus the additional damage the attacks had caused made taking that action unreasonable to attempt.
So with no farther attacks happening, and the reduced need for power and resources, Eli could have made such attempts. If it were me, I'd rather take those risks than dying alone.
I think a more likely and more story forming solution is that Eli couldnt fix the pod so he uploaded his consiousness via the chair into the ship's computer. this would allow him to be a reoccuring character perminantly linked to the ship.