Eliad Eyar no it's not. 4-4-2 has two wingers or wide players playing in the midfield 4, with two genuine strikers playing ahead of them. This is considered a more defensive and solid approach. 4-3-3 you essentially play 1 genuine striker flanked by two forwards/wingers on either side. In the midfield ideally you play 3 central midfielders one defensive, one box to box and one attacking. This formation is used for more fluidity and pace in the attack making it a very offensive formation. A 4-3-3 that fucks up and needs to defend as you say would become a 4-5-1, a formation Mourinho is accustomed to.
+Eliad Eyar No way. It allows you to spread the field, give your strikers room to run, and take pressure off a single striker as you see in a lone striker formation (so boring). You only play two center mids which allow your outside mids to function as wingers, and if the CM sit back a beat, the winger can cut to the middle almost as if he's a CAM. While this video was made before Leicester City won the league (which is why they obviously weren't included) the Foxes employed these aspects of the 4-4-2 but then also added the pressing attackers to turn the ball over in the attacking third. Shinji Okazaki was massively overrated for this; he floored it for 65-75 minutes a match, constantly pressing the ball then let Leonardo Ulloa come in to continue the press but also give the added bonus of being able to defend in the middle of the field, like a CM. Leicester resembled Total Football +Catenaccio with wingbacks who push forward & lots of overlapping and position versatility.
You went straight from 1982 to Pep's Barca. You missed out the rise of the seemingly unbeatable 4-4-2, and Mourinho's Chelsea 4-3-3, and even Ferguson's Man Utd 4-1-5 formation
Back then, Pass-backs were allowed. It made it a bit easier on the goalkeeper. They scrapped it about 30-40 years ago because it was too defensive and boring.
I think after the 2006 world cup there was a new fashion for 4-5-1. A lot of teams began to use one striker in the box and a second fake forward in midfield.
***** It's never left, at least in the lower leagues. You see a lot of pacy wingers, attacking fullbacks, and target men, all with suspect first touches -- 4-4-2 maximises the number of crosses, and heads to meet those crosses. It's only when you come up against teams well-drilled and inventive enough to make other formations effective that it falls apart. I've seen a few smaller teams attempt tiki-taka, for instance, but as soon as the pass completion falls below 90-something % it falls apart completely.
the difference between modern formations and old formations are that in modern formations there are differences in defense and attack while in old times the roles were defined in defensive and attacking positions. For instance, an old 4-3-3 consisted on 3 players waiting on the offside line. Now a 4-3-3 is a 2-3-5 in attack and a 4-5-1 in defense. In 50 years player have come to cover a distance 3 times longer run on the pitch in 90 minutes. In old times they ran 3 kilometres; now they cover easily 10 km in a match. See the difference?
In the 90s, the 4-4-2 was the most popular approach; Ancelloti found success with Milan using the 4-3-2-1 (Christmas tree) with deep lying playmaker (pirlo) and a front playmaker (rui costa, kaka)and Mourinho brought in the 4-5-1 which has been modified into a 4-2-3-1. This is currently the most predominant approach.
Andy Summons Yea Mourinho won with no striker or midfielders at Anfield, Either this means he is the best manager in England or maybe its because Liverpool are just shit. Personaly i think its both
i am a right midfielder, at school we are playing 3-3-1-3 (3 CB, CM, RM (me), LM, AM, CF and 2 WF) Thats the formation our class won the school league. and i got the most assists in the league, while most of the teams we face play 5-4-1. Question for someone who understood me until now: How the actual fuck did I get 15 assists in a seson???
jurgi lowe's steel tactics with Germany. the 4231 was one of the most machine oriented formations slowing down any attack because of the sheer pressure and dominance in midfield as well as a strong a front line up that was headed by the deadly klose that would counterattack any team and score multiple goals in a game ruthlessly destroying any side no matter how talented. all teams before were based around a central player, Maradona, kruyf, pele, messi, neymar. Germany were a team and lowe's side proved it by crushing all the greats, 4-0 against Argentina, 7-0 against Brazil.
Nah. A lot of Italian clubs use 5-3-2 and it works best against two strikers. If theyre combating 4-2-3-1 against only one striker then having such a heavy defence is unnecessary.
4-5-1 is perfect. Ancelotti used it in RM but then changed mc to fw,and played 4-1-3-2. Today often plays 3-2-3-2 by this excelent manager but now im not rm fan,only Zidane fan but I want rm lose.
united? lol because of sacchi's milan that formation became so popular not to mention he invented pressing style that team was pure domination united was nowhere near it
BORK LASER I couldn't give two fucks who came up with it. Almost every single English team played 4-4-2 for 15-20 years. It wasn't until 4-5-1 started to swamp the midfield that everyone changed.
I think that the Italy team was the last team to truly have a defensive philosophy; now, because modern Full Backs bomb forward at every chance, defensive solidity relies upon the centre backs and the goalkeeper. There are occasional defensive full backs such as Matteo Darmian and Cesar Azpilicueta but the majority often make creating a relationship with the winger in front of them a priority over defending.
But that's the thing though. Everyone in Europe outside of England has practically converted over to this new philosophy on fullback play. The new generation realizes the benefit in teaching their backs to attack and press up opposition when transitioning from defense to attack. It presses on the wings which leads to more depth and width to work with in midfield and the final third were goal scoring chances happen
The Potato Mate, unless you're going to play the goal keeper as a center back of full back you don't mention him! What ever formation you use a goalkeeper will always be in the exact same place so you don't need to mention him because it's obvious.
Nathan Masters Mate, If you have claudio bravo as keeper, he'll be wanting to be a full back more than a sweeper. I know it's obvious. Like I said, it's different from mouth to mouth, places to places. If someone can understand, that's good enough.
David Bergin But I remember he scored at Aberdeen, and then he did this celebration where he ran and then slumped as if shot dead. It was great. Doesn't make up for how shit useless he was at Celtic. But it almost does.
I honestly see Mauricio Pochettino's philosophy of high pressure becoming the future of football as not many teams seem to be able to combat Spurs, despite there lack of world class players.
Guardiola as well as klob are both doing it for their teams ... And I got to add not a whole a lot of players can keep up a 90 minute press as well as not many players have the talent to do what klob or Guardiola ask for !!! It's takes pure understanding of football .. practical training .. experience, understanding and skill all come from motivation and determination
Nice idea for a series or a documentary spanning from the early periods (20's to 50's) to the 60's, 70's, 80's etc. I would love to see an in depth look of each era combined in a 15 to 30 minute episode. It would be cool to see examples and clips of the highlights put together with the tactical explaination given here!
um? i think you forgot a very none formation, often refered to as bus formation, 9-0-1, Chelsea plays is all the time against top teams, and it help them dominate in recent years
englandfootball8 He was being humble and complimenting chelseas formation and yet ye chelsea rentboys still have to say something bad? Chelsea will never have more major trophies than Liverpool EVER!
The 4-3-3 is a solid formation. I can see the 4-3-3 extending out into a 4-2-1-3 with the 1 interchanging between defensive and attack for high pressure and quick shifting from defense to attack through a few quick passes.
Quick sidenot to restore ´54 West-Germany's honor: They played with their second team in their 3-8 group stage match against Hungary. Not to take anything away from the hungarians, they were the best team at that time. Germany won off the rain in the final, because they were the only team using screw cleats for better grip on weat ground, at that time newly invented by their kitman, Zeugwart, caretaker, Adolf "Adi" Dassler, founder of "adidas".
There is a massive historical mistake in here. "Catenaccio" was actually invented in Switzerland and developed by the Italian club teams (specially Inter Milan) in the '60s, not in the '80s. Au contraire, during the '80s Italians overcame the traditional catenaccio under the guidance of Arrigo Sacchi's AC Milan, that still now are the last team able to win the European cup back-to-back, imposing the 4-4-2 which was dominating in the '90s.
I had no idea the W-M formation was a thing, I set it up on FIFA career mode as a way to bag interceptions but it does more than that. I know FIFA is far from real life but this accidental formation of mine is ridiculously strong!
I don't think formations are really the problem nowadays. Any of the modern formations will give any team a solid foundation to build team play around. What I see as the most necessary evolution is that individual players need to develop their positional intelligence more whereby their play is dictated by their position on the field and the positioning and movement of the opposition. I often see a fast break by the opposition team which you can see could be easily defended as long as the defense were clear on their roles as to who they were going to pick up and what space they were going to cover. Instead what we often see is more than one player over-pursuing an attacker or the defense getting confused as to who is covering who, this situation probably occurs because individual players have their roles coached into them rather than the intelligence to quickly assess the dynamics of the developing situation.
I like the 3-4-3 with wing backs that Wolves have been using (maybe biased, since i support them). Wolves are 3-4-3 in attack and 5-4-1 when coming backwards with a huge emphasis on counter attacking football. Plenty of pace up front with no real out and out striker, all 3 upfront are wingers by trade really. with Neves and whoever gets slotted in net to him, usually Saiss or N'Diaye and creative outlets for the front 3 or the wing backs when they come forward. Nuno completely changed Wolves this season. Traditionally a simple 4-4-2 kind of team with emphasis on wing play and long ball. Nuno encouraged shorter passing and plenty of patience when unable to break on the counter. It's been a joy to watch all season.
Teams used to choke the back 3rd with defenders because defenders used to just be big and strong. As CBs began to improve and become more tactically savvy, having less defenders became affordable. If Thiago Silva or Ramos played as they do now in the 50s, they would cause clean sheets nearly every game.
What about Arrigo Sacchi's Milan of the late 80s/early 90s. Completelt revolutionised football by using 3 attacking forwards and the full backs sitting on half way line which condensed the field, making it harder for the opposition to win possession
and Pep had alot of influence from the late great Johan Cryuff, the 3 4 3 formation. Pep was then able to improve Cryuff's style of play and turn it into tika taka. Pep used the same idea of sticking to your postion like Cryuff did with the Barcelona Dream Team of the 90s.
MrCrashandFootball even more influence from La Volpe's 523. Or 343. When the wing backs would join the midfield line and busquests would join the defensive line
He destroyed a coachless team who were struggling in all big games that season. Not a great example of tiki-taka. If weren't for Chelsea fluke wins in 2012 Barca and Bayern would have met when they were both top of their game and we would have seen one of the best finals ever. Shame :/
Chelsea's "fluke" wins HAHAHAHA yeah okay, because every game was a fluke -_- You don't make it to a CL final "fluking" every single game, whilst the final itself and the game vs Barca were very fortunate, the other games were not at all lucky
+loGic Psychosis dude, chelsea did. All games were fluke. And you guys lost to corinthians in the international club championship (not sure thats how they call it in english). Chelsea should be ashamed. Lol
Neat explanation and great analysis. Despite some tiny little details left on the air, all this is pretty much what has been all about the transcendent football formations throughout history. Very good job, I'm subscribing to your channel now.
Honestly, the best formation in my opinion is a 3-5-1-1, with a Supporting striker and a main striker. Next, you need a defensive midfielder who is comfortable coming back and playing as a center back when the defense is needed more. All you need from there are 2 players like Alessandro Florenzi, who are equally comfortable at any point on the wings of the pitch.
I actually thought of something similar with a deep lying sweeper playing in front of the back three bringing the ball forward alongside some wing-backs like you said, the false nine would be good for allowing those players more options higher up the pitch and defensively it perfectly nullifies the popular 4-2-3-1
Go on then, explain what is wrong with my tactic, it is the type of defensive minded tactic that a team should use to combat the use of the 4-2-3-1, actually don't, I don't value the football knowledge of a guy who thought a hypothetical tactic for the purpose of discussion was an actually implemented tactic
In Argentina was very popular the 4-3-1-2. The player who play behind the strikers is called "enganche", like Juan Román Riquelme, Bochini and also Maradona in his last days as player.
I was flying out of Amsterdam the day of Euro 2000 semi vs Italy. Had a chance to be amongst supporters, and from what I understand, it's always a week-long party. :) Coolest part of my only European trip, and 16-year-old me fell in love with the Oranje. I picked up an orange soccer ball before I left and got an Ajax jersey (that still fits 32-year-old me!) at the airport before I left. When kids here in the States try to tell me soccer is boring and that basketball tricks are cooler, I pull up a video of Edgar Davids and convert them. :)
you completely glossed over the rise of the back 3 formations, with some of the greatest teams employing this tactic. Franz beckenbauer made the sweeper position his own and inspired the rise of Franco baresi to create the libero, a more attack minded version of the sweeper who would start possession based attacks from deep. this had more influence over the next evolution of formations with the rise of la pivoti (the pivot) which is personified by players such as Andrea pirlo, xavi and Paul scholes.
I'd say Beckenbauer was a Libero himself. The term refers to the fact that your other defenders (including CBs) are freed up to gain attacking roles; the sweeper's own attacking role is irrelevant to the term Libero.
He also glossed over Tottenham Hotspur pioneering the one-two passing tactic in the late 50s, and changing English football. But he still includes Arsenal basically cheating by having the rules changed. I smell a gooner.
In the world cup the dutch tried 6-2-2 they never really said it but it looked like it was and when where they doing that you may ask? 2015 World Cup game against spain
Ryan Tsui I remember doing this with friends in some of the FIFA games of past. It was pretty much a brick wall. And don't forget to charge the goalie the entire time. =D
Cruyff didn't invent total football, he was the perfect exponent of it put not even his manager Rinus Michaels came up with it on his own, total football had been used in some way or another for years by Real Madrid, Hungary and even Burnley and Scottish Manager Jimmy Hogan inspired Michaels with his pioneering in possesion based football
3-2-4-1. 1 CB who is purely defensive. 2CBs who help in regaining balls and build up along with 2 cdms.2 high work rate wingers.2 attacking midfielders.1 striker.This will give a lot of possession and huge no. of chances can be created with security to counter attacks as well.
The 523 seems to be increasingly popular these days, especially with the success of Chelsea. Wingbacks that provide width in attack and defend crosses into the area, two creative box to box midfielders, and a targetman style striker being the hallmark of the formation.
4-1-3-2 with Marcelo n carvajal joining attack at as wing back and casemiro as a CDM. Isco, Kroos n modric creating magic in midfield. Attack force led by the man himself(CR7). This real team in the history books for sure.3 ucl in 4 years. 1st team to win it back to back. Now, they need a cdm if casemiro gets injured. With forceful bench strength
I think tactics are somewhat ruining the spectacle of a football match, I've seen plenty of matches where one side would just go out and kick their opposition around or would set up by parking the bus. It prevents either team from playing football and leads to a generally boring game. Gone are the days when 2 teams would go out and try and out score the opposition as opposed to trying to concede less than their opponents, who's with me? (Bare in mind this is just my opinion and not some 'fact' I'm trying to ram down people's throat)
I agree to an extent but you got LVG so you're going to have to deal with these games full of tactics now. This is how football is now and days it's evolving and its winning games. It's all part of the game.
I think that the note on pressing hard and playing differently in different positions on the pitch was key, especially in this day and age. Like Theirry Henry talked about Guardiola's system, "The further you get from the back, the more freedom you have to move about.
For me a solid defence/counter attack football is the key to success with the CDMs playing a major role in it ! Good 6 ft trees that can break legs ! I also like the Jupp Heynckes and Jurgen Klop counter attacks ! Maybe the old pragmatical german style ! Tell me what you think ! :)
please more of this. it's wayyyy too common for football to be 'sportified' and just becomes 'athletes doing good stuff'. this is really important, thanks guys. p.s. well done for crushing 110+ years of tactical change into a 5 min video.
Was 4-4-2 even mentioned, probably the most used formation ever and arguably the most dominant, it even won Leicester the league last season.
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Seems an outright sin not to mention it.
4-4-2 is when you are trying to make all of the areas of the field covered by your players using 4-3-3 but then you fuck up and start defending more
not to mention even atletico madrid's tactical success under Simeone with the 4-4-2
Eliad Eyar no it's not. 4-4-2 has two wingers or wide players playing in the midfield 4, with two genuine strikers playing ahead of them. This is considered a more defensive and solid approach.
4-3-3 you essentially play 1 genuine striker flanked by two forwards/wingers on either side. In the midfield ideally you play 3 central midfielders one defensive, one box to box and one attacking. This formation is used for more fluidity and pace in the attack making it a very offensive formation.
A 4-3-3 that fucks up and needs to defend as you say would become a 4-5-1, a formation Mourinho is accustomed to.
+Eliad Eyar No way. It allows you to spread the field, give your strikers room to run, and take pressure off a single striker as you see in a lone striker formation (so boring). You only play two center mids which allow your outside mids to function as wingers, and if the CM sit back a beat, the winger can cut to the middle almost as if he's a CAM.
While this video was made before Leicester City won the league (which is why they obviously weren't included) the Foxes employed these aspects of the 4-4-2 but then also added the pressing attackers to turn the ball over in the attacking third. Shinji Okazaki was massively overrated for this; he floored it for 65-75 minutes a match, constantly pressing the ball then let Leonardo Ulloa come in to continue the press but also give the added bonus of being able to defend in the middle of the field, like a CM. Leicester resembled Total Football +Catenaccio with wingbacks who push forward & lots of overlapping and position versatility.
Manuel Neuer will start a team that plays the goalkeeper in the middle of the feild and has defenders that support him
😂😂😂
higuita already did it
David Morales 😂😂
David Morales lmao
David Morales 😂 Thiago mottas actually doing that now
You went straight from 1982 to Pep's Barca.
You missed out the rise of the seemingly unbeatable 4-4-2, and Mourinho's Chelsea 4-3-3, and even Ferguson's Man Utd 4-1-5 formation
Zsht you can't say "seemingly unbeatable", It's not like only one team was allowed to use it
So Ferguson had 1 less player
Actually most notable here missed is Arrigo Sachchi's AC Milan. His compactness & offside traps
@@lalboimanlun1230 only when Webb retired
The 5-5-1 will be the future. Keeper playing both the striking and keeper roles.
Manuel Neuer…
Niklas Kray Don't you mean Rene Higuita ?
Jesus A And Neuer will be mark as the new generation of goalkeepers.
Jesus A
mosara3a
Being a keeper in the 1920s would have been a right pain in the ass
+LUFC Holmesy A bit like a handball keeper
Back then, Pass-backs were allowed. It made it a bit easier on the goalkeeper. They scrapped it about 30-40 years ago because it was too defensive and boring.
+Tombo They scrapped it in 1992
+Tombo the ball would kill your hands if it came to you!
I was a goalkeeper in the 1920s
so when was 4-4-2? I mean that is "the default" right?
theIcyToad most dominant in the 90s and 00s.
I think after the 2006 world cup there was a new fashion for 4-5-1. A lot of teams began to use one striker in the box and a second fake forward in midfield.
ah yes, the infamous false 9
theIcyToad A false nine would imply the non-use of a traditional striker, yet in the 4-5-1 here it's more of a second striker style
***** It's never left, at least in the lower leagues. You see a lot of pacy wingers, attacking fullbacks, and target men, all with suspect first touches -- 4-4-2 maximises the number of crosses, and heads to meet those crosses. It's only when you come up against teams well-drilled and inventive enough to make other formations effective that it falls apart. I've seen a few smaller teams attempt tiki-taka, for instance, but as soon as the pass completion falls below 90-something % it falls apart completely.
There's already a new formation it's the 11-0-0 more commonly known as parking the bus.
mou is the master at that.
10*-0-0, gks arent counted in formations
+TechGuy856 refs are :)
xD
thats a great tactic
Really love this video I wanna see more stuff like this
Jerado Taylor glad you liked it mate :)
What about Herrera's catenaccio
You guys are perfect for each other.
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Jerado Taylor
the difference between modern formations and old formations are that in modern formations there are differences in defense and attack while in old times the roles were defined in defensive and attacking positions. For instance, an old 4-3-3 consisted on 3 players waiting on the offside line. Now a 4-3-3 is a 2-3-5 in attack and a 4-5-1 in defense. In 50 years player have come to cover a distance 3 times longer run on the pitch in 90 minutes. In old times they ran 3 kilometres; now they cover easily 10 km in a match. See the difference?
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In the 90s, the 4-4-2 was the most popular approach; Ancelloti found success with Milan using the 4-3-2-1 (Christmas tree) with deep lying playmaker (pirlo) and a front playmaker (rui costa, kaka)and Mourinho brought in the 4-5-1 which has been modified into a 4-2-3-1. This is currently the most predominant approach.
4-2-3-1 is mainstream right now
BetterCallSaul its the future of football
BetterCallSaul I wonder why ? Because it's perfect!
Sitamshu Marhatta Yeah because the talent of the clubs had nothing to do with that !
Alex Yanakiev The tactical setup has to fit the strengths and weaknesses of the players.
If I'm not wrong, this new fashion began after 2006 world cup, one striker in the box and a second fake forward in midfield.
0-0-0 formation: Play with 11 goalkeepers.
@Carrion Davis there was a spanish team that went unbeaten but didnt win the league
Where's Mourinho's favourite? 11-0-0
Andy Summons It's not so much a football tactic as it is a way to "Park a Bus"
True
Andy Summons *10-0-0. The goalkeepers are not included in the formation name.
Andy Summons Yea Mourinho won with no striker or midfielders at Anfield, Either this means he is the best manager in England or maybe its because Liverpool are just shit. Personaly i think its both
Chelsea are one of the highest goals doing teams in Europe.....
how to win football:
5 at the back
LB Y to Ibarbo
nuff said
That's Fifa Not Football -_-
TheWTJGamerz i know, it's just banter -_-
Alexander Thompson Ibarbo the 5 time ballon d'or winner according to FUT
Alex Newbold don't be so harsh m9 #ItWasJustBanter
Alexander Thompson
In high school it's pretty much have 1 or 2 skilled strikers and control the mid field and you got yourself a winning team.
Yeah, midfield is a mess apart from wingers usually
i am a right midfielder, at school we are playing 3-3-1-3 (3 CB, CM, RM (me), LM, AM, CF and 2 WF)
Thats the formation our class won the school league. and i got the most assists in the league, while most of the teams we face play 5-4-1. Question for someone who understood me until now: How the actual fuck did I get 15 assists in a seson???
Your opponents were bad, that's why.
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Chelsea's formation 8-1-1
kabs hussain On paper
8-1-1*
10-0-0
IraqiKarim TOP Mourinho is loving these comments
Oliver Haines Bus-2-1
It's missing Sacchi's Milan, that was a real revolution in the 90s
late 80s actually
Exactly. No team won back-2-back UCLs after Arrigo Sacchi's Milan
@@mananmehta6910 erm, Real Madrid a couple of year ago ???
@@kinichitohyama4056 yeah until Real Madrid of Zidane
jurgi lowe's steel tactics with Germany. the 4231 was one of the most machine oriented formations slowing down any attack because of the sheer pressure and dominance in midfield as well as a strong a front line up that was headed by the deadly klose that would counterattack any team and score multiple goals in a game ruthlessly destroying any side no matter how talented. all teams before were based around a central player, Maradona, kruyf, pele, messi, neymar. Germany were a team and lowe's side proved it by crushing all the greats, 4-0 against Argentina, 7-0 against Brazil.
4-4-2??!!! More team has probably won a trophy with this tactic than any others!
eh ada bang wartawan 😁😁
yep like leicester
i really like playing a 4-4-2
Exactly, I just commented the same thing. Arguably the most used and dominant formation ever in football.
Atletico's way of playing
how the hell was 4-4-2 and 4-4-1-1 not mentioned? the fundamental art of possession and supporting offensive players
because everyone knows it
A 5-3-2 used to nullify the popular 4-2-3-1 formations seems like a likely future approach
Nah. A lot of Italian clubs use 5-3-2 and it works best against two strikers. If theyre combating 4-2-3-1 against only one striker then having such a heavy defence is unnecessary.
4-5-1 is perfect.
Ancelotti used it in RM but then changed mc to fw,and played 4-1-3-2.
Today often plays 3-2-3-2 by this excelent manager but now im not rm fan,only Zidane fan but I want rm lose.
Not even a mention of Sacchi who changed football forever like Pep and Klopp and Capello admitted
my exact thoughts
milan ran through opponents in the late 80s and early 90s
What about four four fucking two?
You mean the formation that just won the Premier League? This video was made 1 year too soon I guess...
Nyku Also the formation that Utd dominated the 90's with.
I was in fact just joking and making a Mike Basset England manager reference.
united? lol
because of sacchi's milan that formation became so popular
not to mention he invented pressing style
that team was pure domination united was nowhere near it
whenever i think about a common place classic formation, i just think about 4-4-2 and 1994's brazil.
BORK LASER I couldn't give two fucks who came up with it. Almost every single English team played 4-4-2 for 15-20 years. It wasn't until 4-5-1 started to swamp the midfield that everyone changed.
Absolutely love videos like this that go in depth with football tactics. Keep it up COPA90!!
should have talked about Mourinho and his defensive tactics
Yes, he should have talked about how it won Chelsea the league title
But its a dick way to win it
+Ethan Gardner Defense win games
I think that the Italy team was the last team to truly have a defensive philosophy; now, because modern Full Backs bomb forward at every chance, defensive solidity relies upon the centre backs and the goalkeeper. There are occasional defensive full backs such as Matteo Darmian and Cesar Azpilicueta but the majority often make creating a relationship with the winger in front of them a priority over defending.
But that's the thing though. Everyone in Europe outside of England has practically converted over to this new philosophy on fullback play. The new generation realizes the benefit in teaching their backs to attack and press up opposition when transitioning from defense to attack. It presses on the wings which leads to more depth and width to work with in midfield and the final third were goal scoring chances happen
10-1. Long pass all the way to championship.
You mean 9-1* right? Goalkeepers don't count when naming formations. For example 4-3-3 is actually 1-4-3-3 but you don't say the 1.
Nathan Masters
well. if you want, I could say 1-9-0-1.. the format is different from mouth to mouth. As long as people can understand, it's pretty ok.
The Potato Mate, unless you're going to play the goal keeper as a center back of full back you don't mention him! What ever formation you use a goalkeeper will always be in the exact same place so you don't need to mention him because it's obvious.
Nathan Masters
Mate, If you have claudio bravo as keeper, he'll be wanting to be a full back more than a sweeper. I know it's obvious. Like I said, it's different from mouth to mouth, places to places. If someone can understand, that's good enough.
*****
Just like Leicester city last season. I mean, it could work.. =P
10-0-0. Chelsea already does it.
Lol, atletico does it, Italy does it. Why pick on Chelsea?
chelsea became the busmaster
Italy doesn't do it...
Great video, only made better at 3:09 by the random picture of Ian Wright playing for Celtic
He was fucking useless for us at Celtic
David Bergin But I remember he scored at Aberdeen, and then he did this celebration where he ran and then slumped as if shot dead. It was great. Doesn't make up for how shit useless he was at Celtic. But it almost does.
I honestly see Mauricio Pochettino's philosophy of high pressure becoming the future of football as not many teams seem to be able to combat Spurs, despite there lack of world class players.
+Elliott Chesterman Dortmund didn't seem to struggle too much
+Elliott Chesterman Pochettino simply copied Klopp's Gegenpressing, which was adapted from earlier high press styles.
Guardiola as well as klob are both doing it for their teams ...
And I got to add not a whole a lot of players can keep up a 90 minute press as well as not many players have the talent to do what klob or Guardiola ask for !!!
It's takes pure understanding of football .. practical training .. experience, understanding and skill all come from motivation and determination
3-4-3 while atacking, 5-2-3 while defending. Perfect formation
This is mexicos formation for tomorrow's game against Costa Rica
That is about the same tactic Pinto used with Costa Rica in the World Cup and it did make us go quite far : )
Pasagerul Anonim when i play against my bro in fifa i go 3-5-2 attack and 5-2-1-2 defence.
Pasagerul Anonim There is no such thing as "perfect formation." If there was, why would anyone use different strategy than that?
Robert Constantin you called it, a year after your comment and we (Chelsea) are seemingly on our way to our 6th English Top Flight title
Nice idea for a series or a documentary spanning from the early periods (20's to 50's) to the 60's, 70's, 80's etc.
I would love to see an in depth look of each era combined in a 15 to 30 minute episode. It would be cool to see examples and clips of the highlights put together with the tactical explaination given here!
I think everybody should just stand in goal. Same mentality. You can't lose if you don't conceive
Jae Watkins Well, you will be out for 9 months if you do conceive.
Might work in international football but before long every 0-0 draw will mean around 38 points, might get relegated.
Concede*
um? i think you forgot a very none formation, often refered to as bus formation,
9-0-1, Chelsea plays is all the time against top teams, and it help them dominate in recent years
At least they have the capability to win something unlike Liverpool.
englandfootball8 He was being humble and complimenting chelseas formation and yet ye chelsea rentboys still have to say something bad? Chelsea will never have more major trophies than Liverpool EVER!
kabs hussain On sheet then it becomes 8-1-1
I'm loving all these original comments about Chelsea's style of play.
Marvellous Video. Keep up the good work. Shared this video to all my football-loving friends.
This guy sounds like he could voice a koala bear in a cartoon
Huh, never thought about that lol
its funny coz hes australian
The 4-3-3 is a solid formation. I can see the 4-3-3 extending out into a 4-2-1-3 with the 1 interchanging between defensive and attack for high pressure and quick shifting from defense to attack through a few quick passes.
1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
😂😂😂
1-10-0-0
10-0-0 oh wait Chelsea already does that.
1-10-0-0 Mourinho Park the Bus Especiale
Thats a tablature of guitar
I think this is the best video i've yet seen from copa90 great video from the structure to the visualization top notch!
Kenny Jackett's tactics are great! 442 with a winger on the left and a CM on the right, it turns into a 433 when attacking!
+catandfishfc Being a Wolves fan, his tactics are good but his lineups are shit.
+catandfishfc Being a Wolves fan, his tactics are good but his lineups are shit.
+RadicalRobloxian And now we don't have Benik Afobe! :(
Real did that against Bayern with Bale dropping to RM
Quick sidenot to restore ´54 West-Germany's honor: They played with their second team in their 3-8 group stage match against Hungary.
Not to take anything away from the hungarians, they were the best team at that time. Germany won off the rain in the final, because they were the only team using screw cleats for better grip on weat ground, at that time newly invented by their kitman, Zeugwart, caretaker, Adolf "Adi" Dassler, founder of "adidas".
There is a massive historical mistake in here. "Catenaccio" was actually invented in Switzerland and developed by the Italian club teams (specially Inter Milan) in the '60s, not in the '80s. Au contraire, during the '80s Italians overcame the traditional catenaccio under the guidance of Arrigo Sacchi's AC Milan, that still now are the last team able to win the European cup back-to-back, imposing the 4-4-2 which was dominating in the '90s.
I had no idea the W-M formation was a thing, I set it up on FIFA career mode as a way to bag interceptions but it does more than that. I know FIFA is far from real life but this accidental formation of mine is ridiculously strong!
While here in England, Mourinho is parking his bus
...an defeating the defending Champions 4-1 and took the goal record for a single season with Los Blancos. That's a turbo jet bus.
Was waiting for such a video. Insightful and very well done! Great job as always copa90
I don't think formations are really the problem nowadays. Any of the modern formations will give any team a solid foundation to build team play around. What I see as the most necessary evolution is that individual players need to develop their positional intelligence more whereby their play is dictated by their position on the field and the positioning and movement of the opposition. I often see a fast break by the opposition team which you can see could be easily defended as long as the defense were clear on their roles as to who they were going to pick up and what space they were going to cover. Instead what we often see is more than one player over-pursuing an attacker or the defense getting confused as to who is covering who, this situation probably occurs because individual players have their roles coached into them rather than the intelligence to quickly assess the dynamics of the developing situation.
I like the 3-4-3 with wing backs that Wolves have been using (maybe biased, since i support them). Wolves are 3-4-3 in attack and 5-4-1 when coming backwards with a huge emphasis on counter attacking football. Plenty of pace up front with no real out and out striker, all 3 upfront are wingers by trade really. with Neves and whoever gets slotted in net to him, usually Saiss or N'Diaye and creative outlets for the front 3 or the wing backs when they come forward.
Nuno completely changed Wolves this season. Traditionally a simple 4-4-2 kind of team with emphasis on wing play and long ball. Nuno encouraged shorter passing and plenty of patience when unable to break on the counter. It's been a joy to watch all season.
No Chelsea tactic?
6-2-1 won the league.
Bilbo Bagins hmm they played with only 9 outfield players?
Bilbo Bagins hmm they played with only 9 outfield players?
More like bus-hazard-costa
Bilbo Bagins 6-0 Arsenal :P
kabs hussain aren't you persistent? =)
Thanks copa for faverouting my #fanfilmfund tweet! About the oldest football ground in the world Hallam FC
Where is SAF's 4-4-2?
Not really his though was it?
No but I doubt any team right now can win as many titles as he did using 4-4-2 these days
Nik Izzat Danial True.
sacchi was far more succesful with it
Yeah how could the video forget Fergies 4-4-2? #GGMU
Teams used to choke the back 3rd with defenders because defenders used to just be big and strong. As CBs began to improve and become more tactically savvy, having less defenders became affordable. If Thiago Silva or Ramos played as they do now in the 50s, they would cause clean sheets nearly every game.
complicated bus formation in a diamond shape with a triangle between 2 DF and 1 DMF is the best and most effective, even if you don't like to see.
Awesome video! Well done.
What about Arrigo Sacchi's Milan of the late 80s/early 90s. Completelt revolutionised football by using 3 attacking forwards and the full backs sitting on half way line which condensed the field, making it harder for the opposition to win possession
So good, thank you copa90!
Guardiola didn't invent his system though: that came from Luciano Spalletti's 05-06 Roma side and the 4-6-0
and Pep had alot of influence from the late great Johan Cryuff, the 3 4 3 formation. Pep was then able to improve Cryuff's style of play and turn it into tika taka. Pep used the same idea of sticking to your postion like Cryuff did with the Barcelona Dream Team of the 90s.
MrCrashandFootball even more influence from La Volpe's 523. Or 343. When the wing backs would join the midfield line and busquests would join the defensive line
*4-0*
Fantastic video. I want to see more of this.
Next popular formation will be 9-1-0 should be thrilling to watch
Great video, lads!
Catenaccio ❤️❤️❤️🇮🇹🇮🇹
tiki taka💙
The 3-4-3 with a diamond in midfield is my favorit....
Chelsea actually play 4-2-3-1, contrary to what these comments say.
Fuck off you play 10-0-0
Come on Now mark? Honestly telling me You don't think you're defensive based? It doesn't matter what you line up as, it appears more like a 6-2-2
***** and what team is that
Kinda sad that Chelsea out scored your team with 10 defenders isn't it?
Lorcan McGuirk 6-0 Arsenal :P
Great vid I love these sort of stuff u should make more
jupp heynckens destroyed tiki taka 7-0 please tell about his balanced tactic
Attacking more directly like Barca and swift counter attack when win the ball.
He destroyed a coachless team who were struggling in all big games that season. Not a great example of tiki-taka. If weren't for Chelsea fluke wins in 2012 Barca and Bayern would have met when they were both top of their game and we would have seen one of the best finals ever. Shame :/
Chelsea's "fluke" wins HAHAHAHA yeah okay, because every game was a fluke -_- You don't make it to a CL final "fluking" every single game, whilst the final itself and the game vs Barca were very fortunate, the other games were not at all lucky
Pep wasnt in barcelona when Heinckes destroyed barça. The coach was tito vilanova (Rip) and he did so bad
+loGic Psychosis dude, chelsea did. All games were fluke. And you guys lost to corinthians in the international club championship (not sure thats how they call it in english). Chelsea should be ashamed. Lol
GREAT VIDEO!! & also the mention of the legendary Jurgen Klopp!
1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 formation, just pass the ball along guys..just pass along
Your mum
You're dumb that's 11, the goal keeper doesn't count
Laana Sou If you lose possesion and get countered on the wings. You pretty much conceded.
Yannick Morsen Ya, he's dumb
Neat explanation and great analysis.
Despite some tiny little details left on the air, all this is pretty much what has been all about the transcendent football formations throughout history.
Very good job, I'm subscribing to your channel now.
1-2-7 for FIFA 17
Honestly, the best formation in my opinion is a 3-5-1-1, with a Supporting striker and a main striker. Next, you need a defensive midfielder who is comfortable coming back and playing as a center back when the defense is needed more. All you need from there are 2 players like Alessandro Florenzi, who are equally comfortable at any point on the wings of the pitch.
And that won what?
+Joaquim coutinho It hasn't been used in major competitions
I actually thought of something similar with a deep lying sweeper playing in front of the back three bringing the ball forward alongside some wing-backs like you said, the false nine would be good for allowing those players more options higher up the pitch and defensively it perfectly nullifies the popular 4-2-3-1
Dylan Clarkin and me thinking you were dutch. Most idiotic tactic
Go on then, explain what is wrong with my tactic, it is the type of defensive minded tactic that a team should use to combat the use of the 4-2-3-1, actually don't, I don't value the football knowledge of a guy who thought a hypothetical tactic for the purpose of discussion was an actually implemented tactic
Where's Park The Bus?
Damian Teh you can just watch City vs Arsenal, or Arsenal vs Munich to find it
Kevin Hewbsi88 Or Chelsea vs...... well........ everyone.
LEDiceGlacier 6-0
Park the Bus = Catenaccio
In Argentina was very popular the 4-3-1-2. The player who play behind the strikers is called "enganche", like Juan Román Riquelme, Bochini and also Maradona in his last days as player.
no mention to sacchi's(milan's) 4-4-2 in late 80s and early 90s with pressing involved?
This video was killer best video ive seen in months
you forgot park de bus
Great video, really well explained
if Netherlands ever win the world cup I'll party a week long
same
LOL. That's what I do when my club win the league (and we've won it 21 times). Haha. If Sweden ever won the world cup I'd be partying for a month.
In most people's eyes you kind of did.
I will party a month straight.
I was flying out of Amsterdam the day of Euro 2000 semi vs Italy. Had a chance to be amongst supporters, and from what I understand, it's always a week-long party. :) Coolest part of my only European trip, and 16-year-old me fell in love with the Oranje. I picked up an orange soccer ball before I left and got an Ajax jersey (that still fits 32-year-old me!) at the airport before I left. When kids here in the States try to tell me soccer is boring and that basketball tricks are cooler, I pull up a video of Edgar Davids and convert them. :)
That 1-3-3-3 looks like a great formation TBH
you completely glossed over the rise of the back 3 formations, with some of the greatest teams employing this tactic. Franz beckenbauer made the sweeper position his own and inspired the rise of Franco baresi to create the libero, a more attack minded version of the sweeper who would start possession based attacks from deep. this had more influence over the next evolution of formations with the rise of la pivoti (the pivot) which is personified by players such as Andrea pirlo, xavi and Paul scholes.
I'd say Beckenbauer was a Libero himself. The term refers to the fact that your other defenders (including CBs) are freed up to gain attacking roles; the sweeper's own attacking role is irrelevant to the term Libero.
He also glossed over Tottenham Hotspur pioneering the one-two passing tactic in the late 50s, and changing English football. But he still includes Arsenal basically cheating by having the rules changed. I smell a gooner.
make more like this, best so far!
What about a 6-4-0 no one will get past
Olympic Llama what about 0-0-0? just have 11 players filling up the space of the goal.
In the world cup the dutch tried 6-2-2 they never really said it but it looked like it was and when where they doing that you may ask? 2015 World Cup game against spain
Ryan Tsui i'm sure mourinho's already thought of that.
The dutch played with 5 defenders
Ryan Tsui I remember doing this with friends in some of the FIFA games of past. It was pretty much a brick wall. And don't forget to charge the goalie the entire time. =D
Really great sports journalism right here!
am i the only one noticing 1:10- 1:14....gosh....Zoom in!
***** hehehehe it makes me gay to see?
see what?
Nice Video Keep going with this Great Visa
Cruyff didn't invent total football, he was the perfect exponent of it put not even his manager Rinus Michaels came up with it on his own, total football had been used in some way or another for years by Real Madrid, Hungary and even Burnley and Scottish Manager Jimmy Hogan inspired Michaels with his pioneering in possesion based football
3-2-4-1. 1 CB who is purely defensive. 2CBs who help in regaining balls and build up along with 2 cdms.2 high work rate wingers.2 attacking midfielders.1 striker.This will give a lot of possession and huge no. of chances can be created with security to counter attacks as well.
the Zidane era has begun...
min 1'
4-3-3 tactic
min 85'
3-3-4 tactic
min 94'
*real madrid back in the game *
if you know what I mean 😉
Real's champions league win was totally weak. Didn't beat any good team. Got lucky against Atletico in the final.
Easy draws. Avoided any big teams.
The 523 seems to be increasingly popular these days, especially with the success of Chelsea. Wingbacks that provide width in attack and defend crosses into the area, two creative box to box midfielders, and a targetman style striker being the hallmark of the formation.
There's a lot more to football tactics than formations
He never said there wasn't.
Great video!
Man.. 4-4-2 gets no respect... it(and it's variants) was all the rage in the 90's and early 2000's
4-1-3-2 with Marcelo n carvajal joining attack at as wing back and casemiro as a CDM. Isco, Kroos n modric creating magic in midfield. Attack force led by the man himself(CR7). This real team in the history books for sure.3 ucl in 4 years. 1st team to win it back to back. Now, they need a cdm if casemiro gets injured. With forceful bench strength
Chelsea better find a new formation or they're going to be relegated. Can't even beat Arsenal anymore...
We may use 3-5-2.
Terry, Azpi and Zouma or Luiz? Ivanovic and Cahill must show decisiveness or will continue to lose 😧
Mike Morrison Because arseanal is genius
Mike Morrison what about the 3-4-3 they do now?
I see this video too often, love it.
I think tactics are somewhat ruining the spectacle of a football match, I've seen plenty of matches where one side would just go out and kick their opposition around or would set up by parking the bus. It prevents either team from playing football and leads to a generally boring game. Gone are the days when 2 teams would go out and try and out score the opposition as opposed to trying to concede less than their opponents, who's with me? (Bare in mind this is just my opinion and not some 'fact' I'm trying to ram down people's throat)
I agree to an extent but you got LVG so you're going to have to deal with these games full of tactics now. This is how football is now and days it's evolving and its winning games. It's all part of the game.
***** trust me some of the matches from last season were horrible to watch, at times it was the complete opposite of how United should play.
i know i remember well. I remember when Old Trafford was chanting ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK when the defense played it back to De Gea.
That would be more fun to watch but that would not give teams the best chance to win.
I think that the note on pressing hard and playing differently in different positions on the pitch was key, especially in this day and age. Like Theirry Henry talked about Guardiola's system, "The further you get from the back, the more freedom you have to move about.
and... zidane's luck
For me a solid defence/counter attack football is the key to success with the CDMs playing a major role in it ! Good 6 ft trees that can break legs ! I also like the Jupp Heynckes and Jurgen Klop counter attacks ! Maybe the old pragmatical german style ! Tell me what you think ! :)
lets play the 1-1-8. Philosophy : Fuck Possesion, Camping FTW.
please more of this. it's wayyyy too common for football to be 'sportified' and just becomes 'athletes doing good stuff'.
this is really important, thanks guys.
p.s. well done for crushing 110+ years of tactical change into a 5 min video.