Using a mobile phone is NOT an option in some areas of the country. Where I live, there is absolutely NO cell phone coverage in some places, due to geographic or terrain factors (mountains, trees, cliffs, remoteness, etc.)
I'm amazed at my Doctor's office, I gave them my home phone number, a land line, and they later told me that they were texting my home phone. The worst part is that the system doesn't give an error when they text a land line.
I'm not sure what options are available in the USA, but here in Canada, you can get an airtime/text message voucher from SpeakOut Wireless for $25 that lasts 365 days. And SMS messages sent to your number are free. I do happen to have and use a smart Android phone with the $25/year option, but I do not have or need a data plan, and I very rarely make actual phone calls. So, I find this $25/year payment as being a small expense to be able to have two-factor-authentication.
I got a Google Voice number a few years ago. I'm not sure they are still giving them out. I can use it for both voice and text. Seems like those numbers should be able to factor into this somehow??
Yes, Google still will give out a phone number to create a Google Voice account, but it must be linked back to a real phone number. When I did it they were ok with you using your landline. Then you can access it either on a cellphone app or a browser on a computer.
I got a Google Voice phone number so I can use “suspect” services (I also use “hide my email” address) without giving the real mobile number I use for trusted services. One service would not accept the Google voice number and insisted on a number attached to a mobile phone. The newer iPhones support multiple software SIMs. My phone connects to AT&T and Verizon towers, with AT&T as the primary service and Verizon accessed through a low-cost limited data reseller plan. This gives me better coverage in rural areas and a second phone number I can use to isolate critical accounts.
I've had this problem for a while as I don't have a mobile phone and I'd NEVER pay a dime in order to receive a text message. I just won't use their service. A some years ago my insurance company stopped sending me my bill in the mail. I had to have a mobile phone or a computer to pay it. No more using stamps so I quit 'em.
I thought there was going to be a recommendation for a service that provides you with a phone number for SMS only, and emails the text to you or something.
I have a google voice number for years now and I set it up so that any texts are also sent to an email account. I can respond from the email account. I never have to go into the text app if I don’t want to.
GR8T effort. Outstanding production value.. but seriously, the ANSWER IS: NO. You can't. There is ~6 mins of my life I won't get back. Cheers and you RoCk!
This is my dad's problem because he doesn't have a cell phone. He uses my number and I'll randomly get a text and then a call from him asking me for the text details.
There are elderly people who are not text savvy and may not want a cell phone, so that is understandable why he doesn't have a cell phone. You could also call a land line to get a text code
Thank you, Leo. Would it be possible to make a video on usb hubs. Most computers nowadays don't come with SD card readers. Also, usb c is still not common when you hold on to things for a long time. What is the best but cheapest usb hub that offers everything. Thank you.
Had the exact same problem a few weeks ago. My (computer guy who installe w11 in my new computer, gave his own cell number because as the person you were referring to, I never and nor will I ever have one of those (Dumbing down) stupid phone. Look around and see what they have produce... I rest my case.
How can you receive SMS messages to a landline number if mobile numbers begin with 04 and landline numbers begin with 08, 03, 02 etc depending which state or territory you’re in?
Well I've used this virtual number to receive text codes from banks quite successfully so a mobile phone is not required for that, but I agree a smartphone would be required to use an authenticator app
Sometimes I enter my PayPal password, and PayPal sends a pin to my phone that I have to enter to complete the transaction...Bank of America is the same way...In fact, secure sites in general require Two Factor Authentication...
You can send text messages to your email address, and send emails to a mobile phone number. When I'm out hiking, or shopping etc, I send myself little reminders via text message to my email address. (I don't use mobile data unless I have to). When I get home and check my email on my laptop, I have a list of reminders.
Sorry I'm not the guy in the video. Overclocking took a bizarre turn a while back. With CPU's that have a boost clock like the 14700K (You need that K at the end to do anything like this btw.) your best way to overclock is to under-volt your CPU as much as you can while maintaining stability. It sounds odd to be sure but it's so that less heat is generated while the CPU boosts itself allowing it to remain in a boosted state for longer. The boosted state happens while the CPU is under heavy load and ends when it reaches a thermal threshold so less heat = longer boost. It's still possible to increase clock speeds though because the CPU boosts itself when needed you will see a significantly diminished return on your efforts in terms of performance.
@ thanks for your advice, I’m not going to overclock cpu because it does more harm than help, waiting for intel come up with new solutions. Gaining GHz equal to improving cooling system
It does, if you pay extra for a skype phone number and pay for the phone to skype text messages. Skype is my "burner" phone. I wanted a text message service that works on all my computers as well as cell phones and not be locked into a particular cell number.
We got a U.S. phone number from Skype specifically for this purpose, but for some unknown reason to me, our bank will not send a text message to that number.
Must have been "similar" situations (and consequences) about a century ago, when the world was ditching the horse and buggy (and hitching posts), and everyone (except you, who loved to saddle up or take out the Surrey with the fringe on top) was buying a car, and those dirt roads were being paved. "Where's the livery stable?" "Who took the hitching posts down in front of the post office?" "I can't find a saddle repair shop anywhere these days!" "Why can't I ride my horse down Main Street now? I used to do so without a problem before The Great War!" "Why do these cars have to travel so fast; they scare Old Yeller!" 😍 Happy 2025! 😁
no phone required to send/receive txts as long as you have access to email . It's possible to send a txt to email & vice versa. There are many sites that explain how to do it.
@@askleonotenboom Not so. I purchased a cheap TracPhone and paid for a years service. When I entered it on my email account in the applicable box of my credit card provider, I got a return message that the TracPhone line was not acceptable.
@@askleonotenboom Somehow managed to set up a gmail acct. on a cheap android tab I was gifted a few years ago as my intro to IOT. The first hurdle was setting up a G-Voice # to verify the account without a mobile# , RP-in-the-arse!! Worked for some 2fa , till I tried updating my pswrd and got locked out. Like Leo said, hope you got a friend !!
VOIP or SMS-only online services probably aren't going to work since many 2FA code services WILL NOT send to a VOIP line. The 'type' of line attached to a phone number is easy, and automatically looked up by 2FA providers. Many require the 'mobile' flag be set, and will not send to a line with a 'voip' flag. This is especially true of 'short code' 2FA provider services. I'm sorry, but people just have suck it up. Get a cheap flip phone and dead cheap prepaid service and be done with it.
Yes, I've run into that as well. I use Google Voice with my ported landline number, a VOIP box and a cell phone. I'll try to use the GV number first and if that's not acceptable, then I'll begrudgingly use the mobile number. I never give out the mobile number to anyone (aside from 2FA) and only use SMS and voice via the GV number.
My solution has been to get a Tracfone flip phone that cost about $40 for the phone and about $80 per year to keep active, which works for me because I barely use my mobile phone at all, so the limited number of minutes is more than enough. Also, the "friend" solution might not work in many cases, because some services like Paypal will require regular security verifications over time and when you do certain things, so if you only have access to the number when the friend is around, it could create a problem.
What a stupid neurotic idea to not want a smart phone. Sounds like you're just looking for attention and want to tell people you don't have a smartphone
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My big gripe about requiring sms for 2fa is that it creates a single point of failure. Lose your phone, lose access to your banking.
Using a mobile phone is NOT an option in some areas of the country. Where I live, there is absolutely NO cell phone coverage in some places, due to geographic or terrain factors (mountains, trees, cliffs, remoteness, etc.)
I'm amazed at my Doctor's office, I gave them my home phone number, a land line, and they later told me that they were texting my home phone. The worst part is that the system doesn't give an error when they text a land line.
I've got a bank that does the same thing.
@@weldonyoung1013 Funny how so many young people thing EVERYONE'S number is a cell phone.
Yes, you can get a cheap phone, Leo, but who wants an ongoing plan for a "once in a blue moon" requirement?
I'm not sure what options are available in the USA, but here in Canada, you can get an airtime/text message voucher from SpeakOut Wireless for $25 that lasts 365 days. And SMS messages sent to your number are free. I do happen to have and use a smart Android phone with the $25/year option, but I do not have or need a data plan, and I very rarely make actual phone calls. So, I find this $25/year payment as being a small expense to be able to have two-factor-authentication.
I got a Google Voice number a few years ago. I'm not sure they are still giving them out. I can use it for both voice and text. Seems like those numbers should be able to factor into this somehow??
Yes, Google still will give out a phone number to create a Google Voice account, but it must be linked back to a real phone number. When I did it they were ok with you using your landline. Then you can access it either on a cellphone app or a browser on a computer.
I got a Google Voice phone number so I can use “suspect” services (I also use “hide my email” address) without giving the real mobile number I use for trusted services. One service would not accept the Google voice number and insisted on a number attached to a mobile phone.
The newer iPhones support multiple software SIMs. My phone connects to AT&T and Verizon towers, with AT&T as the primary service and Verizon accessed through a low-cost limited data reseller plan. This gives me better coverage in rural areas and a second phone number I can use to isolate critical accounts.
@@karinhart489 My Google Account, I resolved what it was, not the 2FA is.
Thanks Leo!
Excellent Advice Leo!
I've had this problem for a while as I don't have a mobile phone and I'd NEVER pay a dime in order to receive a text message. I just won't use their service. A some years ago my insurance company stopped sending me my bill in the mail. I had to have a mobile phone or a computer to pay it. No more using stamps so I quit 'em.
You can also get a google voice number. I don't endorse google, but if you're using gmail anyhow...
I thought there was going to be a recommendation for a service that provides you with a phone number for SMS only, and emails the text to you or something.
I have a google voice number for years now and I set it up so that any texts are also sent to an email account. I can respond from the email account. I never have to go into the text app if I don’t want to.
That's a big collusion of mobile phone companies and enterprises and government services when they insist on having a mobile number.
The options mostly involve getting some sort of phone number - doesn't seem to be a way around this.
GR8T effort. Outstanding production value.. but seriously, the ANSWER IS: NO. You can't. There is ~6 mins of my life I won't get back. Cheers and you RoCk!
Cell phones are the mark of the beast
This is my dad's problem because he doesn't have a cell phone. He uses my number and I'll randomly get a text and then a call from him asking me for the text details.
There are elderly people who are not text savvy and may not want a cell phone, so that is understandable why he doesn't have a cell phone. You could also call a land line to get a text code
@@davinp Yeah. I don't get too annoyed by it.
Thank you, Leo. Would it be possible to make a video on usb hubs. Most computers nowadays don't come with SD card readers. Also, usb c is still not common when you hold on to things for a long time. What is the best but cheapest usb hub that offers everything. Thank you.
Using a friends number might come problematic if the service that requires text messages makes random security verifications via text messages.
Had the exact same problem a few weeks ago. My (computer guy who installe w11 in my new computer, gave his own cell number because as the person you were referring to, I never and nor will I ever have one of those (Dumbing down) stupid phone. Look around and see what they have produce... I rest my case.
"Dirt Cheap Flip-Phone and Plan", yes, but dirt-cheap and fault-proof not always together. Tracfone maybe?
I think there is a $5 month account that only does talk & text, no data.
How can you receive SMS messages to a landline number if mobile numbers begin with 04 and landline numbers begin with 08, 03, 02 etc depending which state or territory you’re in?
This is a big problem when you live overseas and don't have a U.S. number.
What other email services besides Proton and Tuta allow account creation without giving a mobile phone number?
Create and manage your own email server, use a vps
This is a drawn out way of saying "You don't." Third party SMS services don't work for most verification systems.
Two Factor Authentication requires a cell phone using an authenticator app or text code
Well I've used this virtual number to receive text codes from banks quite successfully so a mobile phone is not required for that, but I agree a smartphone would be required to use an authenticator app
Sometimes I enter my PayPal password, and PayPal sends a pin to my phone that I have to enter to complete the transaction...Bank of America is the same way...In fact, secure sites in general require Two Factor Authentication...
Apps like bitwarden can store and authenticate two factor codes on computers and browsers, no phone needed
Skype has a phone line service
You can send text messages to your email address, and send emails to a mobile phone number. When I'm out hiking, or shopping etc, I send myself little reminders via text message to my email address. (I don't use mobile data unless I have to). When I get home and check my email on my laptop, I have a list of reminders.
Do you have any videos how to overclock intel cpu i7 14700 for windows 11? Thanks Leo
Sorry I'm not the guy in the video. Overclocking took a bizarre turn a while back. With CPU's that have a boost clock like the 14700K (You need that K at the end to do anything like this btw.) your best way to overclock is to under-volt your CPU as much as you can while maintaining stability. It sounds odd to be sure but it's so that less heat is generated while the CPU boosts itself allowing it to remain in a boosted state for longer. The boosted state happens while the CPU is under heavy load and ends when it reaches a thermal threshold so less heat = longer boost. It's still possible to increase clock speeds though because the CPU boosts itself when needed you will see a significantly diminished return on your efforts in terms of performance.
@ thanks for your advice, I’m not going to overclock cpu because it does more harm than help, waiting for intel come up with new solutions. Gaining GHz equal to improving cooling system
I wish my phone didn't come with text , or a text code so my text is private , so friends can but spammers can't not's .
you can block it
I hate how Verizon forces a phone number to pay bill to sign in.
The USPS requires a mobile phone number to complete the on-line address change order. How fking stupid is that.
Would Skype work?
I don't believe so.
It does, if you pay extra for a skype phone number and pay for the phone to skype text messages. Skype is my "burner" phone. I wanted a text message service that works on all my computers as well as cell phones and not be locked into a particular cell number.
We got a U.S. phone number from Skype specifically for this purpose, but for some unknown reason to me, our bank will not send a text message to that number.
Must have been "similar" situations (and consequences) about a century ago, when the world was ditching the horse and buggy (and hitching posts), and everyone (except you, who loved to saddle up or take out the Surrey with the fringe on top) was buying a car, and those dirt roads were being paved. "Where's the livery stable?" "Who took the hitching posts down in front of the post office?" "I can't find a saddle repair shop anywhere these days!" "Why can't I ride my horse down Main Street now? I used to do so without a problem before The Great War!" "Why do these cars have to travel so fast; they scare Old Yeller!" 😍 Happy 2025! 😁
What!?
I live in the Wayne-Holmes area counties in Ohio. We have Amish. We support horses, and yes, you can still ride your horse & buggy down Main Street.
no phone required to send/receive txts as long as you have access to email . It's possible to send a txt to email & vice versa.
There are many sites that explain how to do it.
Yeah, but there are idiot companies like Samsung that will not go for it.
"How Do I Get a Text Message Without a SMART Phone?" would be a more appropriate title.
Not at all. Applies to non-smart phones as well. There are people who don't want any kind of mobile phone.
@@askleonotenboom Not so. I purchased a cheap TracPhone and paid for a years service. When I entered it on my email account in the applicable box of my credit card provider, I got a return message that the TracPhone line was not acceptable.
Buy a burner phone.
My vote is Google Voice
Which is nice, except that it requires you already have a mobile number to set up your Google account. So it's chicken and egg.
@ Ahhh, you are right! Forgot about that.
@@askleonotenboom Hahaha, part is true. is not on Google account.
Google voice also gets blocked by some services, bugs me to no end when i have it happen, no one needs my 'real' number
@@askleonotenboom Somehow managed to set up a gmail acct. on a cheap android tab I was gifted a few years ago as my intro to IOT. The first hurdle was setting up a G-Voice # to verify the account without a mobile# , RP-in-the-arse!! Worked for some 2fa , till I tried updating my pswrd and got locked out. Like Leo said, hope you got a friend !!
VOIP or SMS-only online services probably aren't going to work since many 2FA code services WILL NOT send to a VOIP line. The 'type' of line attached to a phone number is easy, and automatically looked up by 2FA providers. Many require the 'mobile' flag be set, and will not send to a line with a 'voip' flag. This is especially true of 'short code' 2FA provider services.
I'm sorry, but people just have suck it up. Get a cheap flip phone and dead cheap prepaid service and be done with it.
Yes, I've run into that as well. I use Google Voice with my ported landline number, a VOIP box and a cell phone. I'll try to use the GV number first and if that's not acceptable, then I'll begrudgingly use the mobile number. I never give out the mobile number to anyone (aside from 2FA) and only use SMS and voice via the GV number.
There is no reasonable solution. On the bright side - tech companies getting rid of poor riff-raff.
My solution has been to get a Tracfone flip phone that cost about $40 for the phone and about $80 per year to keep active, which works for me because I barely use my mobile phone at all, so the limited number of minutes is more than enough. Also, the "friend" solution might not work in many cases, because some services like Paypal will require regular security verifications over time and when you do certain things, so if you only have access to the number when the friend is around, it could create a problem.
PayPal give me the option of receiving the verification code on my landline phone.
What's the dirt cheapest cell phone for less than $100 a year including the phone. QVC Tracfone
What a stupid neurotic idea to not want a smart phone. Sounds like you're just looking for attention and want to tell people you don't have a smartphone