Game Scoop! 769: It's a Little Hard to Believe in Xbox Right Now
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Welcome back to IGN Game Scoop!, the ONLY video game podcast! This week your Omega Cops -- Daemon Hatfield, Sam Claiborn, Justin Davis, and Mark Medina -- are discussing Xbox, Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition, and more. And, of course, they play Video Game 20 Questions.
Love this cast, but a guest appearance by Ryan would've been perfect for this week's Scoop
Don't you mean, Max? He's the biggest Microsoft advocate
Nintendo is the king of milking IP and most gamers love it.
That was the worst description of Animal Well Ive ever heard. "theres no jumping" wtf are you wafflin about 😂
The Tango closure hurts not only because of the potential the studio had, (which was enormous) but because of the way they got closed. They barely wrapped up the production of the Hi Fi PS5 port and got immediately fired.
Well, the studio founder and main creator has just left the company. So it's like keeping Kojima Productions without Kojima.
@@e.v.g.e.n.y Well Tameem just left Ninja Theory. How long until they are shut down next?
@@jackied962Months or a Year after Hellblsde 2 probably. It will do terrible thanks to the Shitpass and no real sales that really mske money. This whole Gamepass things is now Crashing like People already said it will. More gets shut down, cancelled. And instead of kicking that useless fucker Spencer out the developers and studios have to suffer for this crap
Thought Arkane lyon made dishonored? Arkane Austin helped sure but they was formed in 2006 as a support studio to lyon.
Scoop!
All of Xbox leadership has got to go. Microsoft does not need to let it die, it can bleed for a lot longer if they still are serious about hardware - Microsoft basically has infinite money - but if they want Xbox to be dug out of the grave that Phil, Tom, Sarah, Matt, and Aaron, among others, have thrown Xbox into, Microsoft is gonna have to clean house at the top.
Sarah bond is 100% just a suit , she's a complete phony and has never had me fooled .
This is not an Xbox issue - this decision definitely came from the highest executives in Microsoft. It’s capitalism working in its worst way.
@@ktasty221 The delayed games, the games stuck in development hell, the canceled games, the games coming out worse than their predecessors (Halo, Forza Motorsport, Starfield), etc., is an Xbox issue. Their studios have been so badly mismanaged.
The CEO came from the cloud division. Microsoft hardware has suffered under him.
It won’t matter. The brand is poison now.
Loving the various Perfect Dark theme music interjecting between clips! 💪🤘
It almost feels like top tier bespoke Single player games will be a rare commodity soon, we may get the one of hits like Elden Ring from big studios every so often... But the majority of the magic will come from indie studios.
Video game industry crash 2023 2024
During the 16 & 32bit era the systems was different enough that developers had to make different game, with hardware being so similar it has diluted the real creativity. I'm glad Nintendo bunks mainstream hardware expectations.
Mark needs to watch LOTR and give us his review of each movie for the coming 3 weeks.
Shoot
He seems so proud that he hasn't seen them.
Imagine XBox offering you work now, or an XBox subsidiary company. If you had ANY other possible employment, you would run for that. What a crazy message to their employees. You are not safe, we will fire you without warning. No matter the quality of the work.
I'd be amazed if every single employee wasn't sorting their resume and looking for work now to beat the rush. It's crazy. What an appalling way for a multi billion dollar company to treat it's staff.
Yeah Mark, really should have done your homework before talking about the Xbox stuff lol. Alpha dog is the studio that made mighty doom and Roundhouse is the one that's being merged into elder scrolls online. Also don't boast about the fact you haven't seen Lord of the Rings, doesn't make you look any better. That's just weird.
99% of gamers dont care, they just buy games the like and have zero interest in what these businesses do behind closed doors
Why have the previews been so low res and 15fps recently?
Xbox is waving the white flag. They lost the war.
Dude they're not waving a white flag....
They've decided to baracade the gates and shoot their own soldiers instead 😅
Sadly with Arkane over 70% of the devs who made Prey left because they were forced to make Redfall - So they were already a shell of what they were... MS had a chance to save them and re-boot Redfall - So in any case its all on MS...
Xbox is cooked.
Music track before 20 questions?
Perfect Dark
Love this show!
Completely in agreement with you, Justin -- leave the LoTR universe alone, aside from maybe the Silmarillion. It does feel a tad disrespectful toward the original Tolkien vision, and a $ grab. These studios need to focus way, way more on creating wholly new content as opposed to rehashes and expansions of existing universes (including Marvel). Lazy!
Slashy, shooty jumpy
You got it wrong. Not sure what makes you think it is lazy when it clearly isn't. it is because of money. Games in big franchises sell more than they would off some random IP, this is just the reality of it.
We should acknowledge that we don't have all the information about Microsoft's decision, and that any explanation that assumes we're better at making profit than Microsoft's leadership is very unlikely.
It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that giving games away for damn near free will not equal profits.
SCOOP!
Agree with the Goose Camp crew on Xbox. Sarah Bond recently talking about different measures of success speaks to the quandary the ABK deal has made for Microsoft. In buying ABK, Xbox is suddenly stuck having to be ABK - focused entirely on AAA, billion dollar selling games which runs totally contrary to GamePass' business model. The two cannot coexist.
For some reason the Animal Well video was a much earlier version of the game. It looks so much better as the final product.
The Gollum ending is like 100 times better than Cap America's or Iron Man's ones imo. 😅
Just not a fan of the MCU in general
Can Microsoft let Xbox be third party already. Over a decade of struggle.
They are putting games on other platforms now.
They are, but they also have hardware.
There’s definitely romance in Hades
Daemon, Justin and Mark laughing at 2D Shooty (tooty shooty) @53:49 was hilarious
Mark only comes on when there’s controversial Xbox news.
When they need someone to bring in the big guns. 😂 But just for clarification: I have never asked to be in Game Scoop. Daemon just hits me up when he wants me on, so I’m never here to trash Xbox, but i just happen to be on the episodes where Xbox needs trashing LOL
@@mark_medina_ign4725Makes sense 😂
@@mark_medina_ign4725 Xbox acquired the Ninja theory and other studios in 2018 and xbox revealed xbox series x in 2019 not xbox one along with Hellblade 2.
Microsoft, stop bringing new games to gamepass, bring them after 2 years. Problem solved!!!
Sony just brought a brand new game Animal well to their subscriptions service how comes they never get criticized?
@@toot1st105Cause they only put small games into that. And thats ok sometimes. But no Triple A 200+ mio Dollar games
B roll is still a mess across ign video podcasts
Xbox just needs to go 3rd party, they basically already are
Nervous laughter
What's up with the echo this week
If you watch the Hobbit making of, the quality of those films (or lack of quality) was truly the producers' fault. It's a miracle Jackson even got them made.
Slashy, shooty jumpy
Sadly with Arkane over 70% of the devs who made Prey left because they were forced to make Redfall - So they were already a shell of what they were... MS had a chance to save them and re-boot Redfall - So in any case its all on MS...
It’s starting to feel Xbox spent all this money and now they’re expecting 1 to 2 titles to see the return and if that doesn’t happen you’re axed
LOTR is better viewed as standard for the first time and then extended on subsequent viewings.
There's a part in LOTR3 that works MUCH better in standard edition because it's a reveal that happens during a climax of the movie, but in the extended edition, they give that part away too early so when the "reveal" happens during the climax, it's much less impactful.
Xbox in my opinion have only had 2 hits in the last 10 years. Forza and sea of thieves
Love will fix it all
All they have to do is go back and do what made them successful in the first place, make a great Halo (get rid of 343), a great Gears ( bring it back to the horror focused, gritty style and bring back Cliffy), and a great PGR or Forza on par with Gran Turismo. Give us free online play and Gamepass as an option.
If they don’t release cod on gamepass, they are toast.
and if they do theyr broke - adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.
They won't
No games for the 1st 2yrs, then Halo, Redfall, more of the same with motorsport, the overhype for Starfield.....failure after failure...now yall "starting" to doubt xbox ??? Be sure to pickup the new controller xbots
Unpopular opinion but Microsoft is taking necessary action. They have provided enough carrot, now it's time for some stick.
Xbox is cooked.
What's the point of defending Xbox?
!poocs
Xbox is toast. Microsoft should turn the next one into a Steam Box. That means supporting just one environment and provides access to thousands of games already available. While that concept never got going previously, the Steam Deck has laid a template to ensure broad and enduring compatible for future games for a Steam Box.
What is going on with the b roll and audio echo? Normally a well produced podcast, but it feels like some of the crew were high🤔
Xbox is playing the real life Fallout game, where they nuke their brand into irrelevance
Gamepass can't succeed without cannibalizing Xbox and the Xbox user base refuses to see this. Unfortunately, the average consumer is very shortsighted. We want everything for nothing. Even though everyone was saying that the model was unsustainable, the Xbox consumers ignored it because they thought their glorified rental service was something to brag about.
What are you talking about? The consumer doesn't, and SHOULDN'T have to think about if a business model is sustainable or not. That is Phil Spencer's job so stop putting the blame on consumers that is absolute nonsense.
@Krytern It is the consumer's responsibility to understand what they are spending their money on. The community was duped by Spencer, but we were warned by people outside of Xbox. You can not deny that.
Gamepass was slow poison. The ABK deal was the knife to the throat.
@jamesbb4 Spencer is the ultimate conman. He tried playing the long game, but Nadella grew impatient.
All this from two slightly above mid studios closing. Don't get me wrong, closing tango is wild, but claiming its cause game pass is a failure is craaazy
GameS co-op
Y'all need the stop mentioning LOTR if Sam is on.
The honest truth is Microsoft having 10,000 employees. Its upkeep cost of 400 million to 500 million per month.
Check out Justin, digging on the pipeweed! 😜
Don't beat them buy up everything SMH
A colt following doesn't mean sales
thats what happens when you believe in video game companies, believe in jesus our lord and savior not in xbox playstation nintendo google stadia and alikes
Amen
Ffs, obnoxious Mark Medina again. Not gonna watch this one. Bye!
Yes Playstation had four games but as of May till end of the year... we've got nada. Only a showcase will give us more into the unknown release schedule of Sony.
Dishonored made no money but was immediately dishonored.The song, too, was also a media darling. This made no money for the parent company Arcane leon makes money for the parent company
High five rush What's a media darling And so three million copies It still cost seventeen million to make It broke even Put the Also immediately But just Broke even It's gonna take Five years to make a new game save the money and put it somewhere else
Held that you came out Predictive texts. As normal
Xbox is cooked.
Unpopular opinion but Microsoft is taking necessary action. They have provided enough carrot, now it's time for some stick.
@@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviewsYour probably right. Its just a matter of time for now
If you don’t like FPS games or Forza there is no reason to own an XBox. They really don’t care about variety, and they don’t understand they will never grow the fan base for Gamepass. And you can see them dropping out of the console race.
Nintendo has the right business plan, and the rest of the gaming world should follow their example.
No, this is not factually true at all.
PlayStation lack variety. GamePass is filled with variety. PlayStation fired 900 Devs, and closed 4 studios, and cancelled 4 games and IGN ignored it.
Nintendo is the best there ever was, Sony is great too, Xbox has always been a crap ripoff.
Phil is the worst one of all....said all the right things over the years but could barley ever deliver. He told me a bunch of games were coming the past 10 years
Joe Bert?
2D(Tooty) Shooty for a 2D shooter where you shoot notes from a Trumpet 🎺 would sell like pancakes
Will you please make a 2-D Shooty shirt?
Mark needs to visit the Camp more often. Mark it, Dude.
All star cast today
Microsoft is the Disney of video games. It's where great properties go to die
Because Sony is trustworthy. Nintendo has not been anti consumer at all either. 🤦🏻♂️
MS is a corporation. They’re not your friends. If they want your money, then they need to earn it.
They’re not earning mine the way they’re going!😂
But wait phil wears gamer shirts. Do you not like them????
wtf lmao Nintendo not anti consumer lmao should haves added a /s being sarcastic since people didn't catch it
Saying Nintendo isn't anti-consumer is hilarious.
Sony is not trustworthy at all they make so many decisions that are not consumer friendly . They constantly have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing things . Cross play , cross progression , pc release , PS5 upgrades from PS4 , locking exclusives . The list goes on and on
What is it with the broll in the background being 15fps and low-res? It’s very distracting
Double Scoop!!
Scoop!
SCOOP!
SO GLAD SAM DOESNT REVIEW MORE GAMES!
WOW that was tough hard to HEAR! The trailer said much more.
Left is right. Up is down. And Microsoft have no idea what they are doing.
Ufff, another Mark Medina episode 🥲
Its a little hard to believe that the most pro consumer/ eco system gets this amount of hate ...im legitimately dumbfounded.....does anyone just play video games anymore?....or do we just like the clicks ? .....this whole week has been a garbage pile of speculation of the "media" looking for engagement....do your homework
Noocely Jorb!
Fanboy much?
Justin “like like like like like like” Davis
The very fact that the console business is based on trust that these companies will give us quality products as a buyer of this console is unpredictable now.
These companies have become investor satisfying online multiplayer stations who rarely listen to the consumer's woes. Pc all day because not one person can control the PC market and that way there is a balance and harmony instead. 😅
Oh please, Valve control the PC market. Don't pretend otherwise lmao
Why do people say xyj has to go? You realy think this is just someones fault? Ever imagined that this was kind of the plan from start on?
Why on earth do you think they planned for Xbox to fail?
@@Krytern 😂 They don't planned to fail, they make bad decisions. At least from a gamers perspective at the moment. From corporate and investors side it's all about numbers, and there it probably and most likely makes sense. How this will turn out In the long run? We will see. Probably we will get another video about this Studios in the same way they talk about the closure from Lionhead now.🤪
THIS "CHANNEL" ATTACKS PSVR2 YET LETS THIS CRAP SLIDE FOR A DECADE - adorably no vr, no gyro, no adaptive triggers, no haptics. TWO machines every dev hates. fk xbox.
Ya think?
Sony dropped to 95 billion market cap... Thats over 10 more billion. Hows psvr2 doin? Easy to believe in sony, right?
Who are you talking to?
@@Gartimus_Prime I'm Sony taxing. It like Xbox tax, but for sony
Watch out guys a console warrior has arrived
And they go billions or whatever up after a great Showcase and great releases. Thats no problem.
I’m very confused by why this is upsetting people so much. It’s their studios, and their assets. How can they ever improve if they don’t make changes. Sony meanwhile tried to literally steal from customers a week ago and we’ve completely forgotten about it…imo that was far more important to gamers than closing studios that haven’t really been producing. Redfall was bad, Hi Fi rush was great but it kind of depends on what they asked for budget wise for the sequel, and Ghostwire Tokyo was their other game and it ran like absolute crap on Series X. That’s not exactly a great track record.
Fanboy much?
@@Krytern not really. I’m losing faith in Xbox too. But Sony imo is worse
Sony is not worse by any metric. Microsoft only got into gaming in the hopes of taking it over. They don’t care about games at all. Probably why they have no noteworthy exclusive except Hi-Fi rush.
Yes, leadership is the problem. But not in the way people think. Its not poor choices but a lack of accountability. Studio leads are more at fault than executives. Of course investors are the ultimate problem but nothing can be done about that.
Fire Phil
Well IGN have been biased against xbox for years so hardly a shock, this is their take.
It is most people's take, whether IGN are biased or not.
Time to accept reality unfortunately.
Everyone hates the Crap Shitsoft or lets say Spencer is doing. They should get rid of him
Who cares what Microsoft does to run their company. Let’s play and talk about the games.
What games?
Literally the most worthless comment I’ve ever seen. You sound like a petulant child. This is the real world child, sometimes you have to cover the rough part of the industry… grow tf up.
People who aren't psychopaths care how the staff are treated. The people who make the games you like to talk about so much.
Try to be less self absorbed.
Hate to say it but should have closed Rare
That makes no sense. Rare gave them one of the few hits in Sea of Thieves.
Sea of thieves was in the top 3 last selling games on PlayStation last month
No. They should let them be free if necessary. But not closing them
Noocely Jorb!
Its a little hard to believe that the most pro consumer/ eco system gets this amount of hate ...im legitimately dumbfounded.....does anyone just play video games anymore?....or do we just like the clicks ? .....this whole week has been a garbage pile of speculation of the "media" looking for engagement....do your homework
The Xbox show will make people forget about all of this. They have the most studios rn.
If they keep going like this they won't lol
No. No Showcase safes them. What do you think they are doing ? Probably show games that are years or a decade away that probably get cancelled before they come out. Thats what you can expect
microsoft/xbox ist ok , calm down, there is no reason to worry
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