Y’all know Aaron Rodgers and coach Belichick would NOT get along. Belichick regularly berates Brady in meetings and Brady takes massive pay cuts. Rodgers would not be able to handle either of those things.
How would you know Belichick regularly berates Brady in meetings? I seriously doubt that Brady does not seem like a push over with low self esteem. Aaron Rodgers has a great arm and good athletic ability but just doesn't get the most out of his team mates.
Jeff Young did you watch the video? It literally says that Belichick ripped Brady up in front of the whole team and Brady was just there taking notes. Rodgers wouldn't be able to handle that.
@William Lee His offense? You mean McCarthys. In clutch scenarios, McCarthy have the reignsto Rodgers(think against Dallas during the playoffs), and he's always good - always.
Rodgers would be benched like Butler was in Super Bowl. END OF STORY... His ego can not take it when you THINK you are better than everyone else!! Brady still has QB coaches working on his mechanics, you figure he would know how to throw a ball at his age!! But he has improved so much more as he aged, because of this ability to be coached.
Well said. Every offseason he is either adding something new or fine-tuning things, making adjustments. The dude still thinks as if he's never won a playoff game and might get cut tomorrow. It's insanity. I'm a grown ass man, but if I had to say I had a hero, it would be him.
@Barry Allen he does have a hugh ego in fact he never takes responsibility for losses he always has an excuse like calling out the other players on his team besides himself.
@Barry Allen last year when he lost to the 49ers he blamed the personnel. He never said that he played bad. This year he blamed his coach however he had a chance to run on third down which would he would have at least gotten to the 2 yardline instead of having 4th and goal from the 8. If its 4th and goal from the 2 the Packers go for it.
@Barry Allen he didn't say he had to play better which is what a true leader would say. I have seen Tom Brady after losses say he was bad along with other real QBS like Drew Brees and peyton manning take owner ship for losing. Not to mention he was asked whose decision it was to kick a field goal and he blamed Matt Lafleur by saying that he wasn't aware in that situation that they were 4th down territory close to the two minute warning and he had the ball at the 8. That's bad situational Football.
You should create one on how Brady and the Pats are able to take other team's castaways, 3rd or 4th stringers, practice palyers , ect. and turn them into household names and why some are never heard from again when they leave.
@@boo2731 Rodgers has also said that Brady is the GOAT. So what's your point? Rodgers may be more physically talented, but is he the better qb? Fuck no! Qb is not just about physical ability, it's way more than that. When will you idiotic Brady haters finally get this very simple point? It's really not that hard of a concept to understand bro!
@@boo2731 sure is debatable. It's a stupid debate, though. Just enjoy watching the two of them play out the end of their careers. Brady is the more decorated of them, but both of them are great....
Just because a QB has arm talent doesn’t mean he’s a winner. All reports I’ve heard say TB is extremely intelligent and motivated. Most importantly, no other QB could win SB’s with the players TB has done it with. Rogers is a self-absorbed jerk, but he is talented. I don’t think he would do much better than he has done with any coach on any team.
The Patriots don't run a West Coast Offense--the team runs a Hydra offense, (named Modified Erhardt-Perkins offense). Aaron Rodgers has always run a West Coast offense. Green Bay has a thin playbook to boot. The Patriots offense is Hydra offense because it presents many problems or obstacles that when solved by defenses new difficulties, problems or obstacles arise. The Modified Erhardt-Perkins offense is based on multiple formation and personnel grouping variations called before the plays. In Super Bowl LIII the Patriots put in 22 personnel [ a run heavy personnel package with two running backs, two tight ends and a slot receiver] but by the time the team broke the huddle the players were in a five receiver set. [This isn't new--Patriots did this in Super Bowl XXXVI.] Under this system, each formation and each play are separately numbered. Additional word descriptions further modify each play. People would tell you that Aaron Rodgers would succeed in this sort of offense. I would tell you that we would see the same Aaron Rodgers, changing the play at the line of scrimmage, and the same thin playbook.
@@VonAllenSports Patriots have no problem putting plays into game plan on the day of the game, hey they will put plays into the game plan during the game itself--ie. those five receiver set plays from 22 personnel I referenced in my previous post. Those plays were in the playbook but had not been practiced in the run up to the Super Bowl. Didn't matter--Tom Brady went out and ran the plays. #1 play--catch by Edelman. 2nd play--catch by Burkhead. #3 play--catch by Gronkowski. And then Sony Michel runs it in for the TD. That's how good Tom Brady is.
@William Lee The West Coast offense uses short passing routes as a form of a running game and will put running backs and slot receivers into short pass route patterns, including pick plays to get receivers open. The dink and dunk is very much the West Coast offense.The 2 step, 3 step and 5 step drop were all designed by the great Bill Walsh. The receiver will be in a designated spot, once the QB has completed either of those steps. What people don't seem to understand is that the West Coast offense is designed to draw in the linebackers closer to the line of scrimmage, and to bring the safeties out of deep coverage. It is then that the team will start using stop and go routes to confuse the defense, as well as audible route changes that will allow the receiver to make what appear as another short pass pattern into a long pass pattern that leaves the secondary exposed. Here's a snippet of Bill Walsh's West (Mid-West) Coast offense. ruclips.net/video/X6mFQvZxX88/видео.html
You think if Rodgers won 6 Superbowls that he 1st would want to be the highest paid player ever. 2nd he would think he is the only reason they won all those SBs. 3rd rumors say he is a horrible presence in the locker room and with 6 titles he might be even worse. 4th Rodgers ego wouldn't fit in Gillette Stadium. Finally, just because you have a great arm doesnt mean you will make the right plays over and over again in playoffs and SBs. We got accustomed to Brady winning 90% of playoff and SB when the game.is on the line. That you either have or dont. Rodgers claim to fame is his hail mary completions. Those are more luck than skill and lastly do you think Rodgers hunger to win especially after 6 titles, would still be as strong as Bradys is now??? Brady still isnt satisfied...
Tony Simma although I agree with everything else, the way he throws his Hail Marys so high is what makes them work. The wide receivers know how it’s going to fly, whereas the defenders aren’t used to so much height on the ball.
You could make this argument about all great players. If you switched Marino and Montana would 49ers win more SBs??? Would Montana still be 4-0 in Superbowls?? Switch Bradshaw and Staubach, you could go down the line...
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Brady should go to NE right now and have more success than Brady had. Just see if it's true or not. I suspect that ARod will play well, but won't play on the level Brady does.
Qb position is about decision making in biggest moments. Brady has proven this to be true once again in nfc championship game. Even Brady would have ran the ball on last play in that game. He would of gotten ball down to 1 yard line & then went for it on 4th down.
To be fair to Belichick, he might have gotten better himself over the years. I still agree with most of your analysis -- it's almost impossible to know what would have happened if Brady and Rogers switched places.... but there is certainly no good reason to just assume Aaron would have won more than Brady.
Oh, absolutely he did. But for people who say this comparison would work, you have to go back to the beginning. If no Brady, there's a good chance Belichick would've been fired before 2005 draft ever came along. Those 2 built this thing together.
If being a QB was about Talent, Jeff George would be a First Ballot HOF, but when you factor in competitiveness, leadership, Football IQ, Decision making, and A LACK OF EGO, Brady is head and shoulders above any QB in the History of the Game.
Bad analogy using Jeff George and it insults my intelligence. George had a strong arm and that was about where his talent ended. Byron Leftwich actually had a stronger arm than George (at least you could have used him) I'll repeat George *strong arm* yes *Talent* absolutely none
People talk about Belichick upbraiding Brady in front of the whole team. Brady has so much humility, which definitely defies the norm when it comes to top athletes. He's ultra-competitive on the field, then seems to have the ability to leave it there.
Okay so one guy is in the Super Bowl *ON AVERAGE* every 2nd year of his career for 18 years and holds every playoff and Super Bowl passing record there is including a record 4 Super Bowl MVP's & the other guy last appeared in an important playoff game when Nelly Furtado was still putting out hits and can't even make the playoffs anymore..I'll just say it *State Farm Insurance GOAT* Rodgers is absolutely the most over-rated QB in NFL history
My Take away from this is: Brady is a robot who has been programmed by Belichick to do exactly what he says, when he says it. But I don't agree with that. Rogers clearly has great talent, but Brady demonstrated his talent before Belichick. Maybe we could say that Brady flourished under Belichick's tutelage, but it's not like he didn't bring real grit and talent to the table.
Fun fact: 8 of Brady's 10 playoff losses gave been by a touchdown or less and/or to a team that goes onto win or atleast appear in the Superbowl. And his loss in 2009 was somewhat because Welker got injured before the playoffs (and part was cause Brady threw 3 picks). And the Jets that he lost to in 2010 just got finished beating Peyton Manning and the Colts and would go on to get just a play from the Superbowl (And the Jets also went to the Conference Championship the year prior). So all the the haters that say that Brady could be 0-9, just say that he could also have 7-11 or so rings (and more of he wins again this year).
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Bill is the losing coach once again where Brady is given some talent and still learning his players. Halfway through this season its going to click hard for Tampa Bay. They won't be seeing us at the finish line. Thats for sure
Rodgers, since his only championship, has only averaged 22 points per playoff loss. Thats including being outscored 29-6 in the 4th of the 2014 conf champ. Brady has averaged d*mn near 22 points IN JUST THE 4TH QUARTER OF HIS LAST 3 SB WINS!!! He has combined for 58 points--about 19.66 points per game.
I'm a lifelong packers fan but even I'll admit brady is a way better qb than Rodgers. I'm sick of the coddling we've done of Rodgers. I'm sick of being next years champs. Let's win a super bowl green bay.
Unpopular opinion: Belichick would love to have State Farm Antichrist...because a few weeks into camp, he would absolutely fleece whoever he traded his uncoachable ass to.
1-Belichick and Rodgers couldn't possibly co-exist for more than five years given their personality. 2- They would've won a Superbowl or two when Rodgers's on his rookie contract, after that, Aaron would break the bank and Bill wouldn't be abe to build his fancy defence.
Oh man. Philip could've done pretty good. He's smart and he's got the leadership thing. He also has some of that "psycho Tom" inside him. The only thing I would say though is he's had some really awesome teams and didn't get it done. But I do like me some Philip Rivers.
I agree with most of your take,however in 2010 Brady signed the biggest contact (11-14 for 72 million). Although it was only for a short time it was a big contract
I think one key point is also that greatness is not a players absolute maximum potential, but what they actually become and in that regard a player should not be knocked for the coaching they receive. Brady is a better player now than he ever would have been had he not been under Belichick, but that does not mean that Brady would not still have been all time great without Bill nor does it mean that he isn't the GOAT. As a coach Bill helped make Tom a netter player, but Brady is still the one who performed on the field. Maybe, there's a chance Rodgers could have been greater than Brady, but he never reached that level. Is he more talented definitely, but if all we care about is who's more talented then why even play the games. For me personally, I quite frankly don't give a dam'n about who's more talented than who, I want to know what you've actually accomplished.
@VonAllenSports I just had a thought about this. Why don't we say what would have happened if Drew Brees switched places with Brady? I get the fact that Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady were seen as the two best Qbs at the time these discussions were made, but I'm surprised Drew Brees is never talked about when making the Hypothetical scenario of wether or not Bill Belichick would want Aaron Rodgers or another QB considering he was in that Conversation.
Just stop it already, Rogers is not even in the same zip code with Brady, neither is Brees, Rivers, Eli, Wilson, Ryan, Luck or Cam.......Mahomes MIGHT get there eventually.....but that remains to be seen. And Rogers is fading like the Summer Sun in fall time...... He's done. TB12 is actually playing better the past 5 years than he played in his first 5. THAT'S the real story here.
You need 6 rings to even be in the debate, then we look at stats. No one cares how many stats a qb can pad against weak teams in the regular season if they're just gonna choke in the playoffs.
@@xaviervega468 Eli didn't own shit....the G-men D won those games, BARELY. In fact Brady put them in the lead late in the 4th both times, the D lost both of those SB's. You new to this sport?
Computer simulation? What is this rocky 6? Come on Brady and the Patriots had a streak that will NEVER EVER be replicated!! --From a lifelong NY Giants fan
@@danski6694 The simulation was used to make the point that real football isn't a video game. Some people, like Max Kellerman for example, like to say stupid shit like "If Aaron Rodgers was on the Patriots, he'd have 10 Super Bowls. It's not a video game where you can just take one player, put in another and nothing else changes.
This is why Aaron Rodgers is not the best QB in the NFL. Big ego, always go for stats, throw his coaches under the bus, and inconsistent in the playoffs. Also Rodgers would get eaten alive by Belichick. Brady does not have an ago, he is coachable, and he always does whats best for the team.
I think it’s super disrespectful that people say Rodgers is bad and he’s nowhere near Brady. The thing is Brady always had the luxuries of a great team to back him up. Rodgers had never had a great defense to back him up. Now that Rodgers is more mature putting him in that environment with a great defense would give him success. The thing that separates them is Brady is older than Rodgers. Brady has the maturity already. Now that Rodgers is getting older he will gain that same maturity. Ask any of Aaron’s teammates this season he had great chemistry with them.
But he did go 11-5 with Matt Cassel, even though they didn't make the playoffs. But i agree, Brady and Belichick are a unique union, that would never work with a different QB, regardless of the QBs talent and/or football IQ. And the Cassel season of 08 was primarily fueled by defense and running the football.
Stephen Allie winning regular season games literally guarantees nothing. Winning playoff games is unbelievably more difficult. Do you think the Patriots are winning a SB with Cassel, Brisette, Hoyer, Garrapolo, or anyone else...no. Brady’s understudies success is indicative of his leadership qualities, not proof his success should be marginalized. If a backup does terrible when the starter is out, the starter failed him.
Right, did you guys read my entire post lol? The only reason I mentioned Cassel was because the narrator in the video mentioned only Kosar and Testaverde as Belichicks other QBs, but he failed to mention Cassel, thats it lol
I don't like either but super tired of the Rodgers hype he has one ring the Steelers gift wrapped him. They all base it on rings and crown Rodgers the most talented of all time wtf
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Didn't he just get a coach fired Aaron Rodgers. I'm not positive on that so if I'm wrong I apologize. And I know I heard he's real a hole in the locker room. But regardless I'm taking Tom. He had Randy Moss for two years an injured Gronk threw his career only position players that are going into the Hall of Fame that he played with and hopefully Edelman. I'm taking Tom because of the heart because he does not quit he is a winner and I do not enjoy watching Rogers play I really do enjoy watching Brady no matter how many points they come back from and win. HEART!!!!!
players like moss would go into the hof despite playing with brady gronk is the only patriots player on offense to be in the hof because he played with brady rn besides brady of course
I take nothing away from Aaron but he's not even in the same space as brady. Only one close is..........nobody top 3 qbs in the league right now are brady brees mahomes. Then there's everyone else
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Just to add on: Arron Rodgers has a losing recird in the playoffs. 6-5 on the road in the playoffs. 5-8 against winning teams (regular season) on the road. Brady is 23-20. Rodgers did two in 2011 divional round. And Brady loss cause of his defense. In SB 42 and 46, Brady had a clutch late drive that should have won the game. But his defense chocked. Belichick is 41-55 from 1992-2001 without Brady. And is 13-5 since 2001. Thats a .722 winning percentage While Brady has a .757 winning percentage. And Brady has better winning percentage and more wins against Ridgers "strong division" than Rodgers has against Brady's "weak division". And Brady played half of his career in a toucher era eithnless oassing that Risgers has been in. And take out the game against the Pats and the Dolphis, Jets & Bills are all .500 teams aka average, not disfuctional. Patriots just make them look disfuctional. Brady went 18-1 with 50 touchdowns. Then in 2008, Matt Cassel went 11-5 with about 20 touchdowns. 7 less wins and 30 less touchdowns. In 2016, Brady prepared his backups cause he knew he was suspended. And his backups went 3-1. That loss was a shutout to the Bills. Brady in the same season destroyed the Bills. One of those wins was a close game to the dolphins. Which Brady would later Blowout. And including the playoffs/Suberbowl, Brady went 14-1. Compared to 3-1 without Brady. 11 game drop off. Rodgers cant handel Belichick coaching, isnt as clutch as Brady, isnt as good of a team or leader as Brady, cant read defenses as well, doesn't have as high of a football IQ, iant as accurate, throws ball away more and is scared to throw a pick which causes him to lose a lot of games, is 8-13 on the Road agianst winning teama well Brady is 23-20, in 2001, 2010-2013, 2017, 2018 his average defense was ranked below 2th but he went to 4 Superbowls, was 6-1 in the divisional round and 4-2 in the confernce champioship. While Rodgers from 2011-2018 has an average defense of below 20th, went 0-2 in the confernce, championship, went 2-4 in the diviosnal round, had dieant have a ring. He won SB 51 without Gronk, put up 505 yards and 33 points with a 29th ranked and a Belichick that allowed the Eagles backup QB to put up 41. And Brady is 8-1 in the postseason 35-9 in the regular season, and 2-1 in the playoffs since 2015. And that SB loss was cause off his defense, not him. Rodgers is 1-1 in the posseason since 2015. Oh where they guy brings passer rating. But colan Capernick has a better passer rating than Montana. The that stat is irrelevant. But whether its irrelevant, here are 54 records Brady holds, according to the Patriots’ final press release from the 2018 NFL season: Most career wins by a starting quarterback (including playoffs): 237 wins Most games over .500 (including playoffs): Brady’s all-time 237-70-0 record puts him at 192 wins over .500. Most wins by an NFL player (including playoffs): Brady’s all-time 237 wins put him one win ahead of Colts kicker (and former Patriot) Adam Vinatieri. Most regular-season wins by a starting quarterback: 207 wins Most wins as a starting quarterback for one team: 207 wins Most division titles by a starting quarterback: 16 titles Most consecutive division titles by a starting quarterback: 10 (2009-18) Most wins by a quarterback after trailing by 10+ points since 2000 (including playoffs): 32 wins Winningest coach/quarterback tandem: Brady/Belichick, 207 wins and .775 winning percentage Most wins by a starting quarterback through first 200 starts: 155 wins Best record in first 100 starts in home games: 87-13, achieved on Oct. 26, 2014 Best record in home games, regular-season (minimum 40 starts): 115-18-0 Best record in home games (including playoffs): 135-21-0 Only NFL quarterback with 100 wins in one stadium: 109 wins at Gillette Stadium Most career wins in road games: 92 wins on the road Most December wins in NFL history: 60 wins in December Most wins by a starting quarterback against a single opponent: 30 wins against the Bills, 27 against the Jets Most interconference wins (since 1970): 52 interconference wins All-time touchdown pass leader (including playoffs): 590 touchdowns, set on Dec. 9, 2018 Most touchdown passes with one team (including playoffs): 590 touchdowns All-time total passing yards leader (including playoffs): 81,693 yards All-time leader, total yards (including playoffs): 82,897 yards Best touchdown-to-interception ratio among quarterbacks with 400 touchdowns: 3.02 Best touchdown-to-interception ratio in a single season: 14.0, 2016 season (28 touchdowns, 2 interceptions) Most starts under one head coach: 267 career starts under Bill Belichick Brady and Brett Favre are the only quarterbacks in NFL history to appear in 300+ career games. Most career NFL Player of the Week awards: 30 Most games with four or more touchdowns and no interceptions: 23 games Most games with three or more touchdowns and no interceptions: 57 games Best record in games with 50 or more pass attempts (including playoffs): 19-9-0 Most touchdown targets by an NFL quarterback: 71 different players have caught touchdown passes from Brady. (Set on Oct. 4, 2018) Most wins by a 40-year-old quarterback in the Super Bowl era (2017 season) Most touchdowns by a 40-year-old quarterback in a season: 32 touchdowns, 2017 season Oldest quarterback to lead the NFL in passing: 4,577 yards, 2017 season Most passing yards in one season by a quarterback over 40: 4,577 yards, 2017 season Most games started in which the quarterback’s team scored at least 50 points: eight games When Brady caught a six-yard pass from Julian Edelman against the Titans on Nov. 11, 2018, he joined Jerry Rice as the only 41-year-olds in NFL history with a reception. Postseason-only records: Most postseason touchdown passes: 73 touchdowns Most touchdown passes in a single postseason game: Six touchdowns (achieved on Jan. 14, 2012, against the Broncos) Most postseason passing yards, all-time: 11,179 yards Most postseason completions, all-time: 1,005 completions Most postseason 300-yard passing games, all-time: 16 games Most Super Bowl victories, all-time: 6 wins Most Super Bowl MVP awards: Four MVP awards (Super Bowls XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, LI) Most playoff wins by a starting quarterback, all-time: 30 playoff wins Most playoff starts by a quarterback, all-time: 40 starts Brady is the all-time leader in Super Bowl passing yards (2,576), completions (256), pass attempts (392), and touchdowns (18). Most Super Bowl starts by all NFL players, all-time: Nine starts Most conference championships by a starting quarterback in Super Bowl era (since 1966): Nine AFC championships Most conference championships by a quarterback-coach tandem: Brady and Bill Belichick have won all nine of Brady’s AFC championships together. Most consecutive completions in Super Bowl history: 16 straight passes completed in Super Bowl XLVI against the Giants. Most conference championship appearances, all-time: 13 AFC championship appearances. Most postseason games played, all-time: 40 games Most three-touchdown pass postseason games: 11 games Records Brady is tied for: Most seasons with 35+ touchdown passes: Four (tied with four others) Most touchdown passes in a single postseason game: Six touchdowns, tied with two others (achieved on Jan. 14, 2012, against the Broncos) Rodgers: just two, passing rating amd Touchdown/Interception ratio. And he always throw the ball away, and has an inferior defense to Brady, forcing him to out up better stats. While if Brady was drafted to the Pack in 2004, sat behind Favre for three years, and was in a franchises who was top ten alltime winning percentage since 1970 and. Top 5 Since 1932. And Who never had consecutive lossing seasons since 1990/1991. Rather than coming to a franchise who went 13-21 in the two years prior to Brady being their, made the playoffs just 5 times between 1960-2000. And a coach who went 36-44 from 1991-2000. The ciaches that Arid inherited werent that bad. And the Pack had two head coached changes, but remained dominant, proving their ability to adapt and survive in free agency and salary cap. Then Rodgers had the 2nd rsnked defense in 2010 and one the SB. And has a losing record in the playoffs since while brady is 30-10. And Rodgers is 0-38 whe. Down by a one or more points against a team who at the time has a winning record. And Brady is more coachable more Clutch, a better leader and teammate, has better football IQ, has better everything but PR amd TD/I. ruclips.net/p/PLuc8uuZcexWPK1jptRxJIKfLbCmLeHBhu ruclips.net/video/iwSKtuQDqMo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/VyLvyVrCwIk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/5rA5icnZ7RA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/fNIz_UE8PVQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/EyIhjLW5XG0/видео.html www.12up.com/posts/6211962-tom-brady-is-clearly-better-than-aaron-rodgers-so-stop-the-debate www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/10/30/dissecting-the-g-o-a-t-debate-tom-brady-vs-aaron-rodgers/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwj-u5W4zbvkAhW8KDQIHep1CrUQFjASegQIBRAK&usg=AOvVaw2jws2qRQeoTnSLp9BSshz3&cf=1&cshid=1567754653265. ruclips.net/p/PLuc8uuZcexWPK1jptRxJIKfLbCmLeHBhu And Brady's single season best QB/Interception is 14/1 in 2016. Rodgers doesn't come close. And Brady holds the record for most 50+ yard touchdowns in a season with 43 in 2007.Just saying, Rodgers has never had a perfect passer rating in a game. brady has had two
Rodgers is a very good quarterback. He is NOT GREAT! and he's a toxic element in the locker room. The question should not be why Rodgers won only 1 superbowl in a quarterback friendly system, it should be how did he win 1 given the negatives that nobody likes to talk about.
Please do not put LeBron James Tom Brady in the same sentence Jordan yes not cry baby LeBron. After they lost with Cleveland he blamed the team then when they won he took all the credit why do you think Kyrie wanted out of there
???? They were 5-11 the previous year and 0-1 during the Jets game Tom took over. They weren’t winning anything. Perhaps you are thinking of a different time?
Rogers will do good anywhere but in new England under bellichick it's about who is the most coachable and that is Brady. let's give credit to the puppet master not the puppet and that's bilichick.
But yer entire argument goes out the window because Belichick had a .277% winning percentage as head coach in New England before Brady took his first snap and was fired as a head coach in Cleveland with a horrendous coaching record - 36/44.. Pal before you comment learn something about football
Whats the point of this topic? It didnt happen. And Brady won the AFC east while there what? 18 out of 20 seasons??? They didnt come into the league together either so there was no choice to be made. This is silly.
Y’all really be hating on Rodgers, to say he wouldn’t of had success with Belichick is dumb as fuck. So do y’all think Brady would’ve had the same success with McCarthy? If y’all want to say Brady is better than Rodgers, then cool but it’s a conversation to have. Who gonna try and make a case that McCarthy is better or even on the same level as Belichick?
VonAllen Sports you said Rodgers wouldn’t of been able to handle the coaching from Belichick, just bc of the rift he had with McCarthy. You’re a biased patriots fan
@@crush_4103 I can see this conversation is going to go nowhere. You already made up your mind. Good luck to your Packers this year. Thanks for watching.
Y’all know Aaron Rodgers and coach Belichick would NOT get along. Belichick regularly berates Brady in meetings and Brady takes massive pay cuts. Rodgers would not be able to handle either of those things.
How would you know Belichick regularly berates Brady in meetings? I seriously doubt that Brady does not seem like a push over with low self esteem. Aaron Rodgers has a great arm and good athletic ability but just doesn't get the most out of his team mates.
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did you watch the video? It literally says that Belichick ripped Brady up in front of the whole team and Brady was just there taking notes. Rodgers wouldn't be able to handle that.
@@iamearly8176 it's well documented that Billy the egomaniac treated Tom like shit.
Does Rodgers have more natural talent? Absolutely. But I'll take leadership, heart, drive and determination over talent any day.
ABSOLUTELY! Well said, especially from the Greatest Man Ever! :)
hard work beats talent
AMEN!!
Yep. Talent means nothing to me if I can't trust you with the offense.
@William Lee His offense? You mean McCarthys. In clutch scenarios, McCarthy have the reignsto Rodgers(think against Dallas during the playoffs), and he's always good - always.
Rodgers would be benched like Butler was in Super Bowl. END OF STORY... His ego can not take it when you THINK you are better than everyone else!! Brady still has QB coaches working on his mechanics, you figure he would know how to throw a ball at his age!! But he has improved so much more as he aged, because of this ability to be coached.
Well said. Every offseason he is either adding something new or fine-tuning things, making adjustments. The dude still thinks as if he's never won a playoff game and might get cut tomorrow.
It's insanity. I'm a grown ass man, but if I had to say I had a hero, it would be him.
@Barry Allen he does have a hugh ego in fact he never takes responsibility for losses he always has an excuse like calling out the other players on his team besides himself.
@Barry Allen the proof is his post game comments.
@Barry Allen last year when he lost to the 49ers he blamed the personnel. He never said that he played bad. This year he blamed his coach however he had a chance to run on third down which would he would have at least gotten to the 2 yardline instead of having 4th and goal from the 8. If its 4th and goal from the 2 the Packers go for it.
@Barry Allen he didn't say he had to play better which is what a true leader would say. I have seen Tom Brady after losses say he was bad along with other real QBS like Drew Brees and peyton manning take owner ship for losing. Not to mention he was asked whose decision it was to kick a field goal and he blamed Matt Lafleur by saying that he wasn't aware in that situation that they were 4th down territory close to the two minute warning and he had the ball at the 8. That's bad situational Football.
You should create one on how Brady and the Pats are able to take other team's castaways, 3rd or 4th stringers, practice palyers , ect. and turn them into household names and why some are never heard from again when they leave.
That's a good one be a lot of research though
stinkbandit yeah that’s why Brady is the goat
bellichicks system. if Brady left same thing would happen
because it's not Brady it's bellichick. if Brady left the same would happen to him. he's replaceable.
Jacob Denissen Ben puts 6th round picks on madden covers but then again that's why he's the Goa7
Agree with everything you said. Rodgers is nowhere near Brady. Tired of this argument.
lol
Brady has admitted that Rodgers is a more talented QB...
@@boo2731 Rodgers has also said that Brady is the GOAT. So what's your point? Rodgers may be more physically talented, but is he the better qb? Fuck no! Qb is not just about physical ability, it's way more than that. When will you idiotic Brady haters finally get this very simple point? It's really not that hard of a concept to understand bro!
Brett Childs your last name is quite fitting 😂
But seriously Brady probably watches Rodgers film to try to get better. Not even debatable
@@boo2731 sure is debatable. It's a stupid debate, though. Just enjoy watching the two of them play out the end of their careers. Brady is the more decorated of them, but both of them are great....
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Idc what anybody says, there's absolutely ZERO CHANCE Rodgers would've brought NE to 9 Super Bowls.
Just because a QB has arm talent doesn’t mean he’s a winner. All reports I’ve heard say TB is extremely intelligent and motivated. Most importantly, no other QB could win SB’s with the players TB has done it with. Rogers is a self-absorbed jerk, but he is talented. I don’t think he would do much better than he has done with any coach on any team.
The Patriots don't run a West Coast Offense--the team runs a Hydra offense, (named Modified Erhardt-Perkins offense). Aaron Rodgers has always run a West Coast offense. Green Bay has a thin playbook to boot. The Patriots offense is Hydra offense because it presents many problems or obstacles that when solved by defenses new difficulties, problems or obstacles arise. The Modified Erhardt-Perkins offense is based on multiple formation and personnel grouping variations called before the plays. In Super Bowl LIII the Patriots put in 22 personnel [ a run heavy personnel package with two running backs, two tight ends and a slot receiver] but by the time the team broke the huddle the players were in a five receiver set. [This isn't new--Patriots did this in Super Bowl XXXVI.] Under this system, each formation and each play are separately numbered. Additional word descriptions further modify each play. People would tell you that Aaron Rodgers would succeed in this sort of offense. I would tell you that we would see the same Aaron Rodgers, changing the play at the line of scrimmage, and the same thin playbook.
Very well said, Michael! :) Great, great post! I absolutely agree.
@@VonAllenSports Patriots have no problem putting plays into game plan on the day of the game, hey they will put plays into the game plan during the game itself--ie. those five receiver set plays from 22 personnel I referenced in my previous post. Those plays were in the playbook but had not been practiced in the run up to the Super Bowl. Didn't matter--Tom Brady went out and ran the plays. #1 play--catch by Edelman. 2nd play--catch by Burkhead. #3 play--catch by Gronkowski. And then Sony Michel runs it in for the TD. That's how good Tom Brady is.
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@@michaelconnors7668 No, that's how good Belicheck is at adjusting a game plan.
@William Lee The West Coast offense uses short passing routes as a form of a running game and will put running backs and slot receivers into short pass route patterns, including pick plays to get receivers open. The dink and dunk is very much the West Coast offense.The 2 step, 3 step and 5 step drop were all designed by the great Bill Walsh. The receiver will be in a designated spot, once the QB has completed either of those steps.
What people don't seem to understand is that the West Coast offense is designed to draw in the linebackers closer to the line of scrimmage, and to bring the safeties out of deep coverage. It is then that the team will start using stop and go routes to confuse the defense, as well as audible route changes that will allow the receiver to make what appear as another short pass pattern into a long pass pattern that leaves the secondary exposed.
Here's a snippet of Bill Walsh's West (Mid-West) Coast offense. ruclips.net/video/X6mFQvZxX88/видео.html
This aged very well my friend
You think if Rodgers won 6 Superbowls that he 1st would want to be the highest paid player ever. 2nd he would think he is the only reason they won all those SBs. 3rd rumors say he is a horrible presence in the locker room and with 6 titles he might be even worse. 4th Rodgers ego wouldn't fit in Gillette Stadium.
Finally, just because you have a great arm doesnt mean you will make the right plays over and over again in playoffs and SBs. We got accustomed to Brady winning 90% of playoff and SB when the game.is on the line. That you either have or dont. Rodgers claim to fame is his hail mary completions. Those are more luck than skill and lastly do you think Rodgers hunger to win especially after 6 titles, would still be as strong as Bradys is now??? Brady still isnt satisfied...
Tony Simma although I agree with everything else, the way he throws his Hail Marys so high is what makes them work. The wide receivers know how it’s going to fly, whereas the defenders aren’t used to so much height on the ball.
You could make this argument about all great players. If you switched Marino and Montana would 49ers win more SBs??? Would Montana still be 4-0 in Superbowls?? Switch Bradshaw and Staubach, you could go down the line...
No other football player will ever compare to Brady's greatness!! Especially Rodgers!!!
I'm not a Patriots fan or a Brady supporter. But if you havent learned that Brady is the goat by now, then you will never learn
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Spot on! This aged quite well 😊😊😊
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I just learned about the Earhart/Perkins offense
Rodgers likes those stats, always swinging for the fences.
Well now I get to watch them all over again
Awesome! There are differences, additions, changes, etc as well :)
So definitely worth rewatching :)
Yeah that little diva in Wisconsin would never made it through a whole season under BB.
Brady should go to NE right now and have more success than Brady had. Just see if it's true or not. I suspect that ARod will play well, but won't play on the level Brady does.
Short answer = no
Talent gets spanked by skill every time
Qb position is about decision making in biggest moments. Brady has proven this to be true once again in nfc championship game.
Even Brady would have ran the ball on last play in that game. He would of gotten ball down to 1 yard line & then went for it on 4th down.
To be fair to Belichick, he might have gotten better himself over the years. I still agree with most of your analysis -- it's almost impossible to know what would have happened if Brady and Rogers switched places.... but there is certainly no good reason to just assume Aaron would have won more than Brady.
Oh, absolutely he did. But for people who say this comparison would work, you have to go back to the beginning.
If no Brady, there's a good chance Belichick would've been fired before 2005 draft ever came along.
Those 2 built this thing together.
It's possible Rogers would not last a week with coach turd
"Nothing. He was taking notes" No sure the interviewer understood what 85 said! Imagine Rodgers getting his azz hauled! Will he be taking notes?
He would be working on his coach getting fired
If being a QB was about Talent, Jeff George would be a First Ballot HOF, but when you factor in competitiveness, leadership,
Football IQ, Decision making, and A LACK OF EGO, Brady is head and shoulders above any QB in the History of the Game.
Bad analogy using Jeff George and it insults my intelligence. George had a strong arm and that was about where his talent ended. Byron Leftwich actually had a stronger arm than George (at least you could have used him) I'll repeat George *strong arm* yes *Talent* absolutely none
Brady admitted that Rodgers is a better qb
@@boo2731 Brady is very modest that 's why he lies about some qbs .
@@petersydow4002 nah
@@boo2731 the most important stat for a quarterback is wins.
Its not about athleticism. Rogers is too arrogant to take coaching. Brady being humble is part of success
People talk about Belichick upbraiding Brady in front of the whole team. Brady has so much humility, which definitely defies the norm when it comes to top athletes. He's ultra-competitive on the field, then seems to have the ability to leave it there.
Compare Brady vs Rodgers since Brady won his 4th ring and Rodgers won his last MVP in 2014: pfref.com/tiny/qRGcN
Brady's the 🐐
Okay so one guy is in the Super Bowl *ON AVERAGE* every 2nd year of his career for 18 years and holds every playoff and Super Bowl passing record there is including a record 4 Super Bowl MVP's & the other guy last appeared in an important playoff game when Nelly Furtado was still putting out hits and can't even make the playoffs anymore..I'll just say it *State Farm Insurance GOAT* Rodgers is absolutely the most over-rated QB in NFL history
I’m interested in this whole saga.
You sold me. Tom Brady is the GOAT
Rogers is uncoachable
Brady all day over Fraudgers
TB12 is king, everybody else stand in line, se ufa, do I have to repeat myself, kui kou komo.
My Take away from this is: Brady is a robot who has been programmed by Belichick to do exactly what he says, when he says it. But I don't agree with that. Rogers clearly has great talent, but Brady demonstrated his talent before Belichick. Maybe we could say that Brady flourished under Belichick's tutelage, but it's not like he didn't bring real grit and talent to the table.
Max needs to stop
Rodgers is too hardheaded to be in BB systems
Fun fact: 8 of Brady's 10 playoff losses gave been by a touchdown or less and/or to a team that goes onto win or atleast appear in the Superbowl. And his loss in 2009 was somewhat because Welker got injured before the playoffs (and part was cause Brady threw 3 picks). And the Jets that he lost to in 2010 just got finished beating Peyton Manning and the Colts and would go on to get just a play from the Superbowl (And the Jets also went to the Conference Championship the year prior).
So all the the haters that say that Brady could be 0-9, just say that he could also have 7-11 or so rings (and more of he wins again this year).
More like 12 or 13 but You are on a right track
The difference between tom and others is he can handle pressure not some of the time but all of the time
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Discount double check is not even close to Brady.
Why on earth would belichik want choking rogers when Brady has proven he can win with whtever is given to him?
Bill is the losing coach once again where Brady is given some talent and still learning his players. Halfway through this season its going to click hard for Tampa Bay. They won't be seeing us at the finish line. Thats for sure
Rodgers, since his only championship, has only averaged 22 points per playoff loss. Thats including being outscored 29-6 in the 4th of the 2014 conf champ. Brady has averaged d*mn near 22 points IN JUST THE 4TH QUARTER OF HIS LAST 3 SB WINS!!! He has combined for 58 points--about 19.66 points per game.
Excellent point!
I'm a lifelong packers fan but even I'll admit brady is a way better qb than Rodgers. I'm sick of the coddling we've done of Rodgers. I'm sick of being next years champs. Let's win a super bowl green bay.
This is where rodgers goes with Adams next year
Rodgers not good enough not close to the goat
The 🐐
Let him have it. He’ll retire as a below .5 coach without Brady.
Unpopular opinion: Belichick would love to have State Farm Antichrist...because a few weeks into camp, he would absolutely fleece whoever he traded his uncoachable ass to.
Football is 80% between the ears and 20% on the field, Rodgers would crumble in a Belichick locker room.......!!
I would've rather kept Brady over bellicheck
1-Belichick and Rodgers couldn't possibly co-exist for more than five years given their personality.
2- They would've won a Superbowl or two when Rodgers's on his rookie contract, after that, Aaron would break the bank and Bill wouldn't be abe to build his fancy defence.
How about Philip Rivers? Not as a comparison to Brady, but as a player groomed and developed under Belicheck.
Oh man. Philip could've done pretty good. He's smart and he's got the leadership thing. He also has some of that "psycho Tom" inside him.
The only thing I would say though is he's had some really awesome teams and didn't get it done.
But I do like me some Philip Rivers.
I agree with most of your take,however in 2010 Brady signed the biggest contact (11-14 for 72 million). Although it was only for a short time it was a big contract
I think one key point is also that greatness is not a players absolute maximum potential, but what they actually become and in that regard a player should not be knocked for the coaching they receive. Brady is a better player now than he ever would have been had he not been under Belichick, but that does not mean that Brady would not still have been all time great without Bill nor does it mean that he isn't the GOAT. As a coach Bill helped make Tom a netter player, but Brady is still the one who performed on the field. Maybe, there's a chance Rodgers could have been greater than Brady, but he never reached that level. Is he more talented definitely, but if all we care about is who's more talented then why even play the games. For me personally, I quite frankly don't give a dam'n about who's more talented than who, I want to know what you've actually accomplished.
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I just had a thought about this. Why don't we say what would have happened if Drew Brees switched places with Brady? I get the fact that Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady were seen as the two best Qbs at the time these discussions were made, but I'm surprised Drew Brees is never talked about when making the Hypothetical scenario of wether or not Bill Belichick would want Aaron Rodgers or another QB considering he was in that Conversation.
Nobody ever confused Brees for a big game QB. They did with Rodgers that's why. It's why people stopped bringing up Manning.
This doesn't take into account Bill's growth as a coach...
No coincidence he was sub 500 and on his way to another firing before Bledsoe got hurt.
@@jagartharn6361 And sub 500 again without Tom
Btw, we've seen Brady in a McCarthyish scheme (2011 under O'Brien)
And he had 39 tds
And took horrible defense and injured Gronk to the Superbowl where manning lucked out again
Just stop it already, Rogers is not even in the same zip code with Brady, neither is Brees, Rivers, Eli, Wilson, Ryan, Luck or Cam.......Mahomes MIGHT get there eventually.....but that remains to be seen.
And Rogers is fading like the Summer Sun in fall time...... He's done.
TB12 is actually playing better the past 5 years than he played in his first 5.
THAT'S the real story here.
You need 6 rings to even be in the debate, then we look at stats. No one cares how many stats a qb can pad against weak teams in the regular season if they're just gonna choke in the playoffs.
Did you watch the video Russ?
Eli is not better, but owned Tom in the Super Bowl. Twice.
@@xaviervega468 Eli didn't own shit....the G-men D won those games, BARELY.
In fact Brady put them in the lead late in the 4th both times, the D lost both of those SB's.
You new to this sport?
@@xaviervega468 owned? sorry what... the giants defense held the pats to 17 and 14. Any team who does that is likely to win. Eli is garbage.
I wonder can you do a video of can the Patriots be successful with Tom Brady but with no Belichick?
Successful? Yes. As successful? No.
@@VonAllenSports not sure about that
@@petersydow4002 To be fair, I wrote that before we saw this travesty of a season.
@@VonAllenSports that 's bill for You
@@VonAllenSports and I think and objective but Bill is a chronic liar
Computer simulation?
What is this rocky 6?
Come on Brady and the Patriots had a streak that will NEVER EVER be replicated!!
--From a lifelong NY Giants fan
That was kinda the point. Comprehension over Scanning
VonAllen Sports oh fair enough..i did scan. I guess they supported brady over rodgers in the end?
@@danski6694 The simulation was used to make the point that real football isn't a video game.
Some people, like Max Kellerman for example, like to say stupid shit like "If Aaron Rodgers was on the Patriots, he'd have 10 Super Bowls.
It's not a video game where you can just take one player, put in another and nothing else changes.
Thanks for being objective a very rare quality!
I can swear I saw this video before
You did. These are updated and revised re-uploads.
Had some copyright issues to deal with from the originals so had to edit.
Ok I was wondering. Saw it was ep 1. Happy to watch again
''TOM BRADY THE GREATEST QUARTERBACK'' enough said
Æron best video out of gazillion awesome ones that You made!I like Rogers but he wouldn't last a day with coach turd.
when Brady said it was right in his hand and bill no the other one and he is like oh that one.
Brady and belicheck are just perfectly placed together that’s why he’s willing to take lower contracts because what qb wouldn’t want a perfect fit?
Brady is too tolerant of coach coattails
This episode should be called Brady dixx riding
That’s plural. It should be called Brady dick riding, he probably only has one
What offense is the closest to the patriots?
Just a different year's Patriots. 😆😆😆
Can’t use the madden comparison. No Belicheck
This is why Aaron Rodgers is not the best QB in the NFL. Big ego, always go for stats, throw his coaches under the bus, and inconsistent in the playoffs. Also Rodgers would get eaten alive by Belichick. Brady does not have an ago, he is coachable, and he always does whats best for the team.
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Excellent point!
I think it’s super disrespectful that people say Rodgers is bad and he’s nowhere near Brady. The thing is Brady always had the luxuries of a great team to back him up. Rodgers had never had a great defense to back him up. Now that Rodgers is more mature putting him in that environment with a great defense would give him success. The thing that separates them is Brady is older than Rodgers. Brady has the maturity already. Now that Rodgers is getting older he will gain that same maturity. Ask any of Aaron’s teammates this season he had great chemistry with them.
This video was made before Rodgers started showing that maturity. When I noticed he was maturing after that, I pointed it out in several videos.
Ok now I understand
He has not shown any growth he consistently makes excuses when he loses.
But he did go 11-5 with Matt Cassel, even though they didn't make the playoffs. But i agree, Brady and Belichick are a unique union, that would never work with a different QB, regardless of the QBs talent and/or football IQ. And the Cassel season of 08 was primarily fueled by defense and running the football.
Stephen Allie winning regular season games literally guarantees nothing. Winning playoff games is unbelievably more difficult. Do you think the Patriots are winning a SB with Cassel, Brisette, Hoyer, Garrapolo, or anyone else...no. Brady’s understudies success is indicative of his leadership qualities, not proof his success should be marginalized. If a backup does terrible when the starter is out, the starter failed him.
With the 18-1 stacked team.
Right, did you guys read my entire post lol? The only reason I mentioned Cassel was because the narrator in the video mentioned only Kosar and Testaverde as Belichicks other QBs, but he failed to mention Cassel, thats it lol
BB was close to losing his job, when Brady took over for Bledsoe. BB was 5-13 with the Pats, if I remember.
matt cassel had a pro bowl season with better stats with the chiefs though with a worse offensive cast.
Rodgers is better than Brady end of conversation
😂😂😂 funny
What a stupid question, why not say Peyton or Brees, Rodgers would have left the Pats along time ago.
Brady is humble and is more about team not me.
This is why Brady is better then Rogers
I don't like either but super tired of the Rodgers hype he has one ring the Steelers gift wrapped him. They all base it on rings and crown Rodgers the most talented of all time wtf
THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS ARE RINGS AND THE G O. A.T HAS #6 UNDER HIS BELT #7 IS GETTING DESIGNED ALREADY BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN STARTS 🤣 SO HATERS KEEP ON HATING PATS LET'S GO!!!!!
Excellent point!
So Tom is better because he puts his Ego to the side and runs the System well he’s better?
Well, yes.
So the defense isn’t a factor into winning Championships?
Who said it wasn't?
Didn't he just get a coach fired Aaron Rodgers. I'm not positive on that so if I'm wrong I apologize. And I know I heard he's real a hole in the locker room. But regardless I'm taking Tom. He had Randy Moss for two years an injured Gronk threw his career only position players that are going into the Hall of Fame that he played with and hopefully Edelman. I'm taking Tom because of the heart because he does not quit he is a winner and I do not enjoy watching Rogers play I really do enjoy watching Brady no matter how many points they come back from and win. HEART!!!!!
players like moss would go into the hof despite playing with brady
gronk is the only patriots player on offense to be in the hof because he played with brady rn besides brady of course
Tell em boy
even more scary drew brees on the pats.
William Lee That’s the stupidest comment I have seen in ages
I take nothing away from Aaron but he's not even in the same space as brady. Only one close is..........nobody top 3 qbs in the league right now are brady brees mahomes. Then there's everyone else
The Patriots treat the Game like a job. “DO YOUR JOB”!!!
The rest of the teams treat the job as a game. The game of football. “They don’t have “fun” in New England.
Good way to put it
I've heard a bunch of teams and coaches saying "do your job". What are you talking about?
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Just to add on: Arron Rodgers has a losing recird in the playoffs. 6-5 on the road in the playoffs. 5-8 against winning teams (regular season) on the road. Brady is 23-20. Rodgers did two in 2011 divional round. And Brady loss cause of his defense. In SB 42 and 46, Brady had a clutch late drive that should have won the game. But his defense chocked. Belichick is 41-55 from 1992-2001 without Brady. And is 13-5 since 2001. Thats a .722 winning percentage While Brady has a .757 winning percentage. And Brady has better winning percentage and more wins against Ridgers "strong division" than Rodgers has against Brady's "weak division". And Brady played half of his career in a toucher era eithnless oassing that Risgers has been in. And take out the game against the Pats and the Dolphis, Jets & Bills are all .500 teams aka average, not disfuctional. Patriots just make them look disfuctional. Brady went 18-1 with 50 touchdowns. Then in 2008, Matt Cassel went 11-5 with about 20 touchdowns. 7 less wins and 30 less touchdowns. In 2016, Brady prepared his backups cause he knew he was suspended. And his backups went 3-1. That loss was a shutout to the Bills. Brady in the same season destroyed the Bills. One of those wins was a close game to the dolphins. Which Brady would later Blowout. And including the playoffs/Suberbowl, Brady went 14-1. Compared to 3-1 without Brady. 11 game drop off. Rodgers cant handel Belichick coaching, isnt as clutch as Brady, isnt as good of a team or leader as Brady, cant read defenses as well, doesn't have as high of a football IQ, iant as accurate, throws ball away more and is scared to throw a pick which causes him to lose a lot of games, is 8-13 on the Road agianst winning teama well Brady is 23-20, in 2001, 2010-2013, 2017, 2018 his average defense was ranked below 2th but he went to 4 Superbowls, was 6-1 in the divisional round and 4-2 in the confernce champioship. While Rodgers from 2011-2018 has an average defense of below 20th, went 0-2 in the confernce, championship, went 2-4 in the diviosnal round, had dieant have a ring. He won SB 51 without Gronk, put up 505 yards and 33 points with a 29th ranked and a Belichick that allowed the Eagles backup QB to put up 41. And Brady is 8-1 in the postseason 35-9 in the regular season, and 2-1 in the playoffs since 2015. And that SB loss was cause off his defense, not him. Rodgers is 1-1 in the posseason since 2015. Oh where they guy brings passer rating. But colan Capernick has a better passer rating than Montana. The that stat is irrelevant. But whether its irrelevant, here are 54 records Brady holds, according to the Patriots’ final press release from the 2018 NFL season:
Most career wins by a starting quarterback (including playoffs): 237 wins
Most games over .500 (including playoffs): Brady’s all-time 237-70-0 record puts him at 192 wins over .500.
Most wins by an NFL player (including playoffs): Brady’s all-time 237 wins put him one win ahead of Colts kicker (and former Patriot) Adam Vinatieri.
Most regular-season wins by a starting quarterback: 207 wins
Most wins as a starting quarterback for one team: 207 wins
Most division titles by a starting quarterback: 16 titles
Most consecutive division titles by a starting quarterback: 10 (2009-18)
Most wins by a quarterback after trailing by 10+ points since 2000 (including playoffs): 32 wins
Winningest coach/quarterback tandem: Brady/Belichick, 207 wins and .775 winning percentage
Most wins by a starting quarterback through first 200 starts: 155 wins
Best record in first 100 starts in home games: 87-13, achieved on Oct. 26, 2014
Best record in home games, regular-season (minimum 40 starts): 115-18-0
Best record in home games (including playoffs): 135-21-0
Only NFL quarterback with 100 wins in one stadium: 109 wins at Gillette Stadium
Most career wins in road games: 92 wins on the road
Most December wins in NFL history: 60 wins in December
Most wins by a starting quarterback against a single opponent: 30 wins against the Bills, 27 against the Jets
Most interconference wins (since 1970): 52 interconference wins
All-time touchdown pass leader (including playoffs): 590 touchdowns, set on Dec. 9, 2018
Most touchdown passes with one team (including playoffs): 590 touchdowns
All-time total passing yards leader (including playoffs): 81,693 yards
All-time leader, total yards (including playoffs): 82,897 yards
Best touchdown-to-interception ratio among quarterbacks with 400 touchdowns: 3.02
Best touchdown-to-interception ratio in a single season: 14.0, 2016 season (28 touchdowns, 2 interceptions)
Most starts under one head coach: 267 career starts under Bill Belichick
Brady and Brett Favre are the only quarterbacks in NFL history to appear in 300+ career games.
Most career NFL Player of the Week awards: 30
Most games with four or more touchdowns and no interceptions: 23 games
Most games with three or more touchdowns and no interceptions: 57 games
Best record in games with 50 or more pass attempts (including playoffs): 19-9-0
Most touchdown targets by an NFL quarterback: 71 different players have caught touchdown passes from Brady. (Set on Oct. 4, 2018)
Most wins by a 40-year-old quarterback in the Super Bowl era (2017 season)
Most touchdowns by a 40-year-old quarterback in a season: 32 touchdowns, 2017 season
Oldest quarterback to lead the NFL in passing: 4,577 yards, 2017 season
Most passing yards in one season by a quarterback over 40: 4,577 yards, 2017 season
Most games started in which the quarterback’s team scored at least 50 points: eight games
When Brady caught a six-yard pass from Julian Edelman against the Titans on Nov. 11, 2018, he joined Jerry Rice as the only 41-year-olds in NFL history with a reception.
Postseason-only records:
Most postseason touchdown passes: 73 touchdowns
Most touchdown passes in a single postseason game: Six touchdowns (achieved on Jan. 14, 2012, against the Broncos)
Most postseason passing yards, all-time: 11,179 yards
Most postseason completions, all-time: 1,005 completions
Most postseason 300-yard passing games, all-time: 16 games
Most Super Bowl victories, all-time: 6 wins
Most Super Bowl MVP awards: Four MVP awards (Super Bowls XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, LI)
Most playoff wins by a starting quarterback, all-time: 30 playoff wins
Most playoff starts by a quarterback, all-time: 40 starts
Brady is the all-time leader in Super Bowl passing yards (2,576), completions (256), pass attempts (392), and touchdowns (18).
Most Super Bowl starts by all NFL players, all-time: Nine starts
Most conference championships by a starting quarterback in Super Bowl era (since 1966): Nine AFC championships
Most conference championships by a quarterback-coach tandem: Brady and Bill Belichick have won all nine of Brady’s AFC championships together.
Most consecutive completions in Super Bowl history: 16 straight passes completed in Super Bowl XLVI against the Giants.
Most conference championship appearances, all-time: 13 AFC championship appearances.
Most postseason games played, all-time: 40 games
Most three-touchdown pass postseason games: 11 games
Records Brady is tied for:
Most seasons with 35+ touchdown passes: Four (tied with four others)
Most touchdown passes in a single postseason game: Six touchdowns, tied with two others (achieved on Jan. 14, 2012, against the Broncos)
Rodgers: just two, passing rating amd Touchdown/Interception ratio. And he always throw the ball away, and has an inferior defense to Brady, forcing him to out up better stats. While if Brady was drafted to the Pack in 2004, sat behind Favre for three years, and was in a franchises who was top ten alltime winning percentage since 1970 and. Top 5 Since 1932. And Who never had consecutive lossing seasons since 1990/1991. Rather than coming to a franchise who went 13-21 in the two years prior to Brady being their, made the playoffs just 5 times between 1960-2000. And a coach who went 36-44 from 1991-2000. The ciaches that Arid inherited werent that bad. And the Pack had two head coached changes, but remained dominant, proving their ability to adapt and survive in free agency and salary cap. Then Rodgers had the 2nd rsnked defense in 2010 and one the SB. And has a losing record in the playoffs since while brady is 30-10. And Rodgers is 0-38 whe. Down by a one or more points against a team who at the time has a winning record. And Brady is more coachable more Clutch, a better leader and teammate, has better football IQ, has better everything but PR amd TD/I.
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And Brady's single season best QB/Interception is 14/1 in 2016. Rodgers doesn't come close. And Brady holds the record for most 50+ yard touchdowns in a season with 43 in 2007.Just saying, Rodgers has never had a perfect passer rating in a game. brady has had two
If you want to win championships you figure it out,. You get along just fine. If you dint give af an you're childish you'll lose
Erhardt-Perkins not Parkins
It's my accent, sorry.
You think Rodgers was hard to coach you ever hear of farve
Belichick: Rodgers or Brady? (BH Saga Ep.1) 1080p
Rodgers is a very good quarterback. He is NOT GREAT! and he's a toxic element in the locker room. The question should not be why Rodgers won only 1 superbowl in a quarterback friendly system, it should be how did he win 1 given the negatives that nobody likes to talk about.
Please do not put LeBron James Tom Brady in the same sentence Jordan yes not cry baby LeBron. After they lost with Cleveland he blamed the team then when they won he took all the credit why do you think Kyrie wanted out of there
They were winning when drew bloodsew was playing and got hurt and then Tom Brady came in halfway through the season with a running record remember
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They were 5-11 the previous year and 0-1 during the Jets game Tom took over.
They weren’t winning anything.
Perhaps you are thinking of a different time?
@@VonAllenSports but before 2001 they were winning they went to the super bowl in 97 and that's was with Drew bledsoe
Rogers will do good anywhere but in new England under bellichick it's about who is the most coachable and that is Brady. let's give credit to the puppet master not the puppet and that's bilichick.
But yer entire argument goes out the window because Belichick had a .277% winning percentage as head coach in New England before Brady took his first snap and was fired as a head coach in Cleveland with a horrendous coaching record - 36/44.. Pal before you comment learn something about football
Whats the point of this topic? It didnt happen.
And Brady won the AFC east while there what? 18 out of 20 seasons???
They didnt come into the league together either so there was no choice to be made.
This is silly.
This video is a response to the question that was posed by ESPN a year ago. Would Belichick rather have Rodgers or Brady.
Y’all really be hating on Rodgers, to say he wouldn’t of had success with Belichick is dumb as fuck. So do y’all think Brady would’ve had the same success with McCarthy? If y’all want to say Brady is better than Rodgers, then cool but it’s a conversation to have. Who gonna try and make a case that McCarthy is better or even on the same level as Belichick?
I didn't say that.
VonAllen Sports you said Rodgers wouldn’t of been able to handle the coaching from Belichick, just bc of the rift he had with McCarthy. You’re a biased patriots fan
@@crush_4103 I can see this conversation is going to go nowhere. You already made up your mind.
Good luck to your Packers this year.
Thanks for watching.
BRETT FAVRE > aaron rodgers
Absolutely! Thanks for watching! I hope you subscribe Reggin!
Favre great but no way he is better than Rodgers.
@@ChillHandle12 Favre won 3 MVPs consecutively and held a strong majority of the records before Rodgers or Peyton Manning broke them
@@ravens52raylewis87 and? That doesn’t mean anything. Rodgers has just as much MVPs? And throw that much interceptions.
@@ChillHandle12 but did he do it consecutively though? And when Favre won one of them he also won the Super Bowl that same season