Generative Remove in Lightroom Classic GOOD and BAD!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Learn about the new Generative Remove tool in Lightroom Classic. It can work Fantastic and it also can be pretty weird. Terry VanderHeiden will show you how it works.
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Thanks Terry, you’ve saved me lots of time here. As a documentary and woodland photographer, removing a few minor details still keeps the image mine. I can see where getting too rambunctious with Generative Remove can cause AI to hallucinate and potentially add elements to my images that I cannot or won’t take credit for. Even AI can’t polish a turd. Better to keep it simple for now.
I agree 100%.
You have to be careful about what you leave in the background because LR will try for continuity. On the first pic of 3 people walking down a street, you left a little bit of something dark next to the person to be removed. LR seems to have tried to manitain continuity by adding someone or something to meld with the dark area. Same for the woman against the white bricks.
Tricky stuff indeed.
Love this overview and seeing all the quirks of this tool! Made me laugh
Yep, it did me too. It will get better I'm sure.
Sometimes I get really good results, sometimes not. I find it usually works very well for removing thread veins from eyes.
I’ve been clone stamping those. I’ll give it a try. Thanks!
I have realized that if I want to remove something from the edge of the photo I have to do it before cropping or I have to uncrop it to the original state before removing. Because the AI remove still works with the cropped parts of the image that is not visible.
And I also have to mask every shadow that AI could think is tied with the subject that we want to remove.
In the photo with the woman in front of the white wall you have left two very small shadows 🙂
Yes, there is a lot to it, to get useful results.
Terry , thank you for doing what you do. I greatly appreciate your hard work
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching.
I've just finished editing my images of custom cars at an outdoors 50's festival. On one image AI remove works fine but on a few others not so good yet using for the same purpose. Used quite a few AI credits which fortunately reload in a couple of days. 🐯
Yep, it's at the stage where you "try it" and see if it works. If it does, you're ahead of the game.
I’ve been doing bird photography for a few years now. I think this kind of technology will increase all our keeper rates. AI will be the big debate moving forward. What makes a photograph, what is art, and what are the rules. I understand the need for that conversation for professional work. For my hobby, I’m excited to see how AI will help me make my images even better. Just like denoise, I think that AI is just another tool in the tool box. I appreciate your channel and all it’s taught me! Thanks!
Exactly the right attitude Kelly. Use what you can, to make your images better.
Thanks again Terry, much appreciated.
You are very welcome.
Thanks Terry, great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Worked with a photo of me on a trip to Cuba with a photo group. There was a another photographer just behind me but the generative removed him.
That is what this tool should be all about. Removing distracting elements.
Thanks, Terry. I always appreciate your excellent presentations. I'm sure this must be a setting problem, but when I use my brush on Generative Remove it is shown as a solid brush, rather than an outline like yours. Help please.
You have the option to chance the brush with size, Feather and Opacity. Feather is the one you are looking for. Slide that to see the changes.
Terry, I have used remove now over 5000 times. I have an answer to your question and that is any time you are trying to remove and object/person that extends to any edge of the picture, the removal will not work over 90% of the time. Hope Adobe will come up with a fix soon.
Yes, that does seem to be a factor. It will improve no doubt.
I wish you would have tried to remove the artifacts that generative AI created in the images that didn't seem to work. A missed opportunity for you to see what generative AI would have done. You might have heard me yelling at my computer screen for you to do just that. Well, maybe not yelling, but hoping.
Yeah, like that mysterious box it put on the wall when you removed the girl. Mask that box and try again.
Ha! Maybe an endless hole to get caught in. Let me know if you give it try and I'll do the same.
Awesome tool!
Indeed.
This is a great introduction to the current slightly wacky world of AI. As a keen concert photographer, I'm dreaming of when AI can remove microphone stands and fill in the guitars and faces behind them perfectly...
Wouldn't that be great! Just spend an afternoon a few weeks ago removing mic stands myself.
Hi Terry, great video. I have the same experiences as you do. I usually use this feature to remove landlines, signs, posts or unwanted persons in the background. Usually I get good results but with some patterns Lightroom as well as Photoshop really seem to struggle. Amazingly it’s not the chaotic patterns like rocks or leaves but the geometric patterns where it seems to have the most difficulties, same for no structure at all like a blue (or worse grey) sky.
How do you feel about the Photoshop tool that allows you to generate a bigger picture? I found it does a good job with clipped wings (even though I need a few tries sometimes) but it‘s impossible to generate any talons of birds of prey’s. It messes up, even if you have like already half of it already in the picture…
Curious. I have not tried to generate talons, but I could see where someone would want to. I think the Photoshop version is better, but I use the fill features mostly to give me a little more space on the backgrounds and such. Thanks for watching.
This will be of great help..😂
Awesome, thanks for watching.
I find that tool has the biggest problems when the item to be removed is at the edge of the photo
Same here. AI remove before cropping also helps. 🐯
That might be the issue. I'll work more on it.
That is a good idea Colin.
My generative remove acts weird every single time is there a way I can reset it or what can I do to at least get one good one?
Start with something that is not casting a big shadow, and make sure it's not going off the page. Those are two triggers for getting unreliable results. Also, try it a few times to see new results.
Okay awesome, I will try this. Thank you so much!
Should spell generative correctly on splash screen
Dang! I hate when I do that.