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  • @ed.winters
    @ed.winters  2 года назад +442

    Do you think Eric will go vegan and inspire others to do the same?
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    • @Jondread
      @Jondread 2 года назад +15

      I sincerely hope so! What a truly fantastic conversation.

    • @JesusDaemon
      @JesusDaemon 2 года назад +33

      He is self aware and it's very probable that he will not only be vegan but an animal's rights activist as well, this made my day a little better.
      I am definitely going to buy your book as soon it's available to US.

    • @andresmarquez2679
      @andresmarquez2679 2 года назад +3

      We can only hope

    • @TheWorldTeacher
      @TheWorldTeacher 2 года назад

      What are your METAETHICS, Mr. Condoner-of-human-baby-murder?

    • @danielblack5196
      @danielblack5196 2 года назад

      Was this at UCSD? Wish I had been there.

  • @theoneatyourdoor87
    @theoneatyourdoor87 2 года назад +1330

    Refreshing to see someone that is both curious and intellectually honest.

    • @franciscallahan2529
      @franciscallahan2529 2 года назад +1

      You mean somebody who is clueless and naive

    • @en2995
      @en2995 2 года назад +38

      I would say clueless people think they know everything and don't push themselves to learn more. Naive people haven't had the opportunity or just don't bother to gain more knowledge. This guy was just the opposite. What a pleasure to watch this video and see everyone's comments

    • @hugomarquez3189
      @hugomarquez3189 2 года назад +3

      And cute ☺️

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 2 года назад +1

      @@en2995wtf i just read a genuinely nice comment.

    • @theoneatyourdoor87
      @theoneatyourdoor87 2 года назад +15

      @Regill Derenge I’m not vegan and you seem to think in very shallow terms.

  • @Hunter-sj9fk
    @Hunter-sj9fk 2 года назад +1301

    I was amazed about the fact that, not only did Eric himself bring up the topic of necessity (when he said that those who need to kill animals to survive are moral), but Eric also broached the idea of putting himself in the animal's shoes and how it didn't matter whether it was factory farming or other forms of farming- all is immoral. Seeing how empathetic (and non-defensive) he was, was relieving to see. Watching this made my day!

    • @acyutaatipriyajambavatidas7954
      @acyutaatipriyajambavatidas7954 2 года назад +16

      Yes! :)

    • @shawndarling5855
      @shawndarling5855 2 года назад +16

      My wife and I have two fifteen year old boys. Their science teacher is a vegan and she takes a few minutes of class to debate with kids who parents are in animal agriculture. I am in the hunting and fishing industry. I own a small store and a fishing barge that I am going to be opening in a couple weeks.
      She debated with them because I offered them a job. I know vegans are always right, smarter, stronger, faster. They came into the store after school and told me what they were doing and what I was doing is wrong and they quit.
      Now they work in a vegan restaurant two towns over busing tables, wrapping napkins. For five dollars an hour. I was paying them fifteen fifty an hour.
      The science teacher's family owns the restaurant

    • @acyutaatipriyajambavatidas7954
      @acyutaatipriyajambavatidas7954 2 года назад +68

      @@shawndarling5855 When you do what you feel is right, the money doesn't matter. No money can buy a healthy, calm conscience.

    • @shakirifrench434
      @shakirifrench434 2 года назад +54

      @@shawndarling5855 Sounds like you've raised compassionate, open minded and confident boys, you and your wife should be very proud. It's also really great to see that as a result you're now watching Ed's videos. I'm sure your sons will appreciate you taking this interest in something that will likely now be very important to them. Perhaps they will inspire you and your wife to make some albeit difficult (re your profession), very positive changes.

    • @PengyGoy
      @PengyGoy 2 года назад +20

      @@shawndarling5855 I can’t put myself in your position, but I can imagine the situation feels very unjust to you. I agree with the other commenters, you should be very proud to have raised compassionate and caring children. And you are fortunate, because I think that if your kids are capable of showing such compassion to animals, they will be capable of compassion towards you too.
      I hope your family can work through this tough situation and listens to each other. Best wishes.

  • @AmbientMood
    @AmbientMood 2 года назад +778

    Such a genuinely open and kind-hearted person , the world needs more people like Eric

  • @hudsontarlow
    @hudsontarlow 2 года назад +649

    Eric was a great bystander! What an open-minded guy.

    • @NoInjusticeLastsForever
      @NoInjusticeLastsForever 2 года назад +7

      For a second I thought he was interviewing you. I was like huh? 🤨😅

    • @Ben-oi6kz
      @Ben-oi6kz 2 года назад +8

      i feel like he wasnt rly a bystander. he was a good listener but much of the convo was him talking. he just talked intelligently lol

  • @biosphere1053
    @biosphere1053 2 года назад +356

    First vegan debate i have ever watched that didn’t raise my blood pressure at all😂 he gonna go vegan soon for sure😊

    • @NoInjusticeLastsForever
      @NoInjusticeLastsForever 2 года назад +18

      Yeah that's a rare thing to happen haha. ❤️

    • @zantecarroll4448
      @zantecarroll4448 2 года назад +13

      Hahaha i know what you mean! Anyone defending animal agriculture makes me see red!

    • @hm9181
      @hm9181 2 года назад +7

      I know right, I pressed play expecting to feel stressed out but it was the complete opposite ☺️💕

    • @biosphere1053
      @biosphere1053 2 года назад +8

      @Happy Carnivore 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @NoInjusticeLastsForever
      @NoInjusticeLastsForever 2 года назад +6

      @@biosphere1053 Just seeing their meatflake username is enough to make anybody laugh haha

  • @Vero.does.better
    @Vero.does.better 2 года назад +79

    The parents of this man should be very proud. I love his curiosity, and also there seems to be an inherent innocence and kindness about him. And Ed, as always, brilliant.

  • @NikhitaPrabhudesai
    @NikhitaPrabhudesai 2 года назад +72

    Erik made me cry by giving me the hope in humanity. His intellectual honesty is so admirable.

    • @miajay507
      @miajay507 Год назад

      Me too! 😢

    • @Winona493
      @Winona493 8 месяцев назад

      This has to be the bare minimum imho!!!! 😢

  • @stevenbridges
    @stevenbridges 2 года назад +632

    He did great and keeping an open mind! Future vegan for sure! 🌱

    • @peacelovevegankpop
      @peacelovevegankpop 2 года назад +17

      I'd say future activist as well!

    • @sunnyhatziargyri8160
      @sunnyhatziargyri8160 2 года назад +1

      @@peacelovevegankpop Totally!

    • @charlescarmichael56
      @charlescarmichael56 2 года назад +10

      @Happy Carnivore lmaooooo where did you get that number that’s such BS

    • @janieswanson2549
      @janieswanson2549 2 года назад

      @@charlescarmichael56 There is a study on faunalytics that shows 84%

    • @charlescarmichael56
      @charlescarmichael56 2 года назад +11

      @@janieswanson2549 what are you doing with your life spending time attacking vegans? Vegans are literally people who care about animals, health, and the planet, people who are trying to minimize suffering in the world and do good.

  • @bernarddebotte5902
    @bernarddebotte5902 2 года назад +401

    What an intelegent and humble guy. It takes a lot of humility to admit you don't know something especialy on camera. And he understood the objective morals vs culture argument straight away! I hope Erick does work on himself and progress to inspiring others. He's already inspired me. What a great guy.

    • @MohsinAli-jt5rk
      @MohsinAli-jt5rk 2 года назад +1

      That’s the type of people ed “debates” he never debates anyone like Goatis because he’s scared to

    • @siinrajiaal
      @siinrajiaal 2 года назад +5

      @@MohsinAli-jt5rk Or perhaps it's because he knows Goatis is a clown and a mysoginist?
      Honestly, If Ed debates Goatis, it amounts to Goatis getting outrage clicks from Vegans. Ed and Veganism do not get any boost and the actual audience just wants to laugh from an ignorant perspective. Ed spends his time.better than that.

    • @MohsinAli-jt5rk
      @MohsinAli-jt5rk 2 года назад

      @@siinrajiaal Yh you’re right he goes on podcasts wearing his dads suits that don’t fit him💀🤥💀😂

    • @siinrajiaal
      @siinrajiaal 2 года назад

      @@MohsinAli-jt5rk I know I'm right but I dunno what Goatis goes on podcasts wearing. His dad's suits you say?

    • @MohsinAli-jt5rk
      @MohsinAli-jt5rk 2 года назад

      @@siinrajiaal I was being sarcastic in Ed’s latest podcast it’s like he’s wearing his grandads clothes that’s what veganism does to you. Eating disorder. Go get some help.

  • @kennedyeckels4492
    @kennedyeckels4492 2 года назад +294

    This was the most productive and open-minded conversation I’ve seen one of the challengers have so far in this series. Ed keeping it together and getting through conversations with people like that one idiot girl, who wouldn’t stop for a breath, only to eventually get to people like this guy and make a real difference in his life is so worth it, and Ed is the only one with the patience to do it. My fucking hero.

  • @Corvid_Moon
    @Corvid_Moon 2 года назад +426

    Such a pleasant exchange. If only more people could be that honest & receptive to information. It'd make activism so easy!
    Thank you Mr. Winters for all you do. I'm excited to receive your book that is expected to arrive in the mail this Summer :)

    • @amprionnsa1867
      @amprionnsa1867 2 года назад

      "Thank you Mr Winters?" Don't you mean Mr Gaunt?

  • @sierraalexandra7630
    @sierraalexandra7630 2 года назад +323

    There's so many angry trolls on the internet, it's so nice to see people that are open-minded and compassionate like this

    • @bqfilms
      @bqfilms 2 года назад +24

      Its easy to troll on the internet, not so easy when you got someone like Ed sitting next to you and deconstructing your entire belief system in matter of minutes

    • @NoInjusticeLastsForever
      @NoInjusticeLastsForever 2 года назад +10

      Luckily the internet isn't reality of the human species. ❤️

    • @erdinczor1
      @erdinczor1 2 года назад

      @@NoInjusticeLastsForever not yet 😶

    • @ellie-jane
      @ellie-jane 2 года назад +1

      This!!!!!

    • @Unmasking_Viandalisme
      @Unmasking_Viandalisme 2 года назад +1

      Had a small (3.5 Oz) fillet steak for lunch, so I'm def. not angry. Team V makes omnivores more appreciative of real food. Decided to go vegan, ~3yrs ago but Day1 research paused the project & by Day3 it was binned. Research has continued & all I find is plant-based BS. I guess I'm a troll🙄or else I don't wish to eat a diet which, historically, has been that of paupers & slaves.
      According to Dan Buettner, who promotes a "vegan diet", the healthiest & longest living men eat 31% animal products. See Blue Zones Sardinia for more details.🙃😎

  • @_Crumpet
    @_Crumpet 2 года назад +94

    What a friendly and honest guy. Great video, Ed!

  • @rescuerhonda0164
    @rescuerhonda0164 2 года назад +192

    What an astute young man! I wish Ed had been around when I was younger. I didn't stop eating animals until I was 27 - almost 31 years ago. At the time I didn't know what vegan was, animal sentience or the horrific practices in the dairy industry. When I finally found out about it 2 1/2 years ago I went vegan on the spot.

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 года назад +21

      It's never too late to do the right thing.
      I didn't learn the facts until about 60 years old, but one thing is certain...
      I will be vegan for good.

    • @zantecarroll4448
      @zantecarroll4448 2 года назад +8

      We also need more people like you!❤️❤️

    • @zantecarroll4448
      @zantecarroll4448 2 года назад +4

      @@someguy2135 ❤️❤️

    • @x-latetv-x6816
      @x-latetv-x6816 2 года назад +1

      31 years ago, 2 1/2 years ago make up your mind

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 года назад +6

      @@x-latetv-x6816 He went vegetarian 31 years ago and vegan 2 1/2 years ago.

  • @kindescay5426
    @kindescay5426 2 года назад +85

    Getting him to explain the argument to you is genius. Love your work Ed ❤️

    • @boriis333
      @boriis333 2 года назад +13

      i believe its called the socratic method, very effective

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 года назад +3

      @@boriis333 I agree. Ed is the master of it.

  • @sebfleebee
    @sebfleebee 2 года назад +128

    What an open minded and genuine person, hope he turns vegan! ❤️

    • @KotaThaSage
      @KotaThaSage 2 года назад +1

      i hope he does what ever he feels like being

    • @beanmachine8509
      @beanmachine8509 2 года назад +6

      @@KotaThaSage 🙄

    • @sebfleebee
      @sebfleebee 2 года назад +14

      @@KotaThaSage I hope he aligns with the values he has demonstrated

    • @sebfleebee
      @sebfleebee 2 года назад +5

      @Happy Carnivore you've dedicated an entire RUclips account purely to dig at vegans? Man I actually feel sorry for you, I hope things start to improve soon

    • @sebfleebee
      @sebfleebee 2 года назад +2

      @Happy Carnivore well your last few comments on things are on vegan videos and your account name is happy carnivore, which led me to believe you're literally spending your spare time trying to troll vegans.
      This would be very sad and made me think you're unhappy or lonely, hence why I hoped things would get better for you.

  • @wheninroamful
    @wheninroamful 2 года назад +91

    This dude, smart young man, is one of my favorite who goes 'up against Ed" haha. He's on the right path, if he becomes vegan or not, he cares and it shows. The world wont become vegan overnight and the 'in betweens', like this guy, shows that people are starting to really consider other ways of being with other beings.

  • @waywardwinchester
    @waywardwinchester 2 года назад +130

    Great open minded person, a rarity among nonvegans, very refreshing.

    • @0BluePrototype0
      @0BluePrototype0 2 года назад +12

      A rarity he says. I think one of the problems many people have with vegans is that they tend to think they are better than non vegans. Your comment describes this perfectly

    • @leonardodtc1493
      @leonardodtc1493 2 года назад +13

      @@0BluePrototype0 well better for the environment,the animals and health so indeed they are better

    • @CharlieL292
      @CharlieL292 2 года назад +3

      You’re never going to win over the public talking like that. Nelson Mandela should be an inspiration and you are not following the path

    • @natashathomsen7183
      @natashathomsen7183 2 года назад +4

      @@0BluePrototype0 I think that he is referring to when non-vegans speak to vegans, not just in general. People are, as a rule, very defensive when speaking about veganism with a vegan (this is just anecdotal from my own life and from what i have heard from others). So, I think what he means is that it was surprising that the guy was so open to arguments against eating meat. Not that meat eaters aren’t open minded in general.

    • @elizabethweld3131
      @elizabethweld3131 2 года назад +3

      @@natashathomsen7183 I think everyone gets defensive when they have their morals challenged, which is a bit part of why so many people are reluctant to have conversations about veganism. It is really important for vegans to have an inquisitive stance like Ed, and to ask questions instead of accusing.

  • @nicolassalliou2352
    @nicolassalliou2352 2 года назад +104

    Eric is the demonstration of a key psychological trait found by scientists among vegans :"openness". You need to be open to new ideas, norms and behaviour to change. That's why if Eric is not vegan, just by his attitude we're all confident that he's capable to improve himself by his openness.

    • @lorah3005
      @lorah3005 2 года назад +5

      "A mind is like a parachute, it doesn't work unless it's open." Frank Zappa

    • @lllllllllllll31lll
      @lllllllllllll31lll 2 года назад +2

      He is also fairly agreeable

  • @carolineASMR
    @carolineASMR 2 года назад +110

    Wow, I loved this conversation so much! Eric seems like such an open-minded and kind guy, definitely a future vegan! :D

    • @ChyvDso
      @ChyvDso 2 года назад

      If he is smart, he doesnt go Vegan ^^

    • @GarudaLegends
      @GarudaLegends 2 года назад

      he will be ex vegan eventually. the question is when

  • @pinsandneedles3
    @pinsandneedles3 2 года назад +33

    Eric, shoutout to you for sitting down and engaging with this issue!! This was a lovely conversation to watch. I wish everyone was as open-minded as you 💚

  • @keeganitreal
    @keeganitreal 2 года назад +37

    While it may be more entertaining to have someone on the channel like the last debate, I'm glad you decided to post a debate like this. I'm sure this is how a majority of the conversations go. Well done Ed 👏

  • @ApexHerbivore
    @ApexHerbivore 2 года назад +51

    He's a good man. I like that he wasn't afraid to continue to ask questions when he didn't understand accountability. Most people would be afraid of asking what seems like an obvious question, especially on camera. It takes courage to be able to admit you don't know something.
    He's already showing responsibility and accountability without even realising it.

  • @juliewake4585
    @juliewake4585 2 года назад +152

    A thoughtful young man, admitting that he’s still learning and able to change as he progresses.

    • @Frodoswaggns
      @Frodoswaggns 2 года назад +4

      He has a beautiful mentality.

  • @Kaz.2719
    @Kaz.2719 2 года назад +109

    What an awesome line of questioning you have Ed. You really helped him draw his own conclusions, you did no “convincing” you just allowed him to discover things for himself. Well done.

  • @red1oner
    @red1oner 2 года назад +97

    I feel people like this, know prior to approaching Ed's table, that they just want some confirmation and direction..a good conversation to learn from. All throughout university I dabbled in vegetarianism after watching earthlings. I was like Eric and understood my food choices had an effect on things behind the curtains and that my dollars spent on animal products supported the supply and demand concept. I didn't have enough information and knowledge on how to improve and spent the next 7 years eating meat and dairy, feeling guilty.. knowing deep down it wasn't right FOR ME. Now I have more than enough knowledge on basic nutrition and have been vegan for over a year. I've consumed no red meat, chicken, or dairy products for close to 2 years. that's because I was spearfishing and harvesting seafood for a year before coming to realize I could get all the nutrients I need from a diverse plant based and whole food diet. That and that the suffering I witnessed and caused first hand did not feel good. I now live by the rule, that "life is life". My life is no more valuable than an animal's. I'm at peace with knowing my actions and intent are to better the life of all living creatures, including humans, here on this beautiful earth. I love these videos as they are such a good source of inspiration to keep going. The number of plant based / vegan people grows by the day and I love it. We got this!✌️❤️💪

    • @savvyburritos
      @savvyburritos 2 года назад +3

      life is life is such a good way to put it! i was personally a vegetarian for a couple years, and then covid-19 happened and for some reason that shifted me into a completely plant based diet. coincidentally i started watching earthling ed at that time too haha! 23 now and vegan, never going back! life is life, and everyone should be treated equally! i’m going to steal that now!!

    • @red1oner
      @red1oner 2 года назад

      @@savvyburritos steal away and enjoy!

  • @amysullivan8358
    @amysullivan8358 2 года назад +42

    I really liked how you handlers the accountability part of the conversation at the end. 🥰

    • @socraticsimpleton
      @socraticsimpleton 2 года назад +2

      Yeah its given me a very good framework on how to recommend cold turkey veganism when I do.

  • @VeganiseAnything
    @VeganiseAnything 2 года назад +29

    Right from the first moment Eric opened his mouth you could tell 'who' he is. A beautiful, gentle person, an open minded soul 💗 Genuinely refreshing debate 🙌

  • @Alaskaventureswithbrodie
    @Alaskaventureswithbrodie 2 года назад +44

    What a great guy Eric seems to be and open to listening. It’s hard at that age with how judgmental friends can be. I see a future vegan right there! 🙌🏻

  • @TimeForPenguins
    @TimeForPenguins 2 года назад +34

    This is my school!! If I had seen Ed on campus, I would’ve lost my mind. Ed, thank you so much for all you do for the community and the animals. You truly inspire me. And much love to Eric for creating such lovely conversation and being so open-minded.

  • @TheVictimsPerspective
    @TheVictimsPerspective 2 года назад +28

    I really love how Ed brought the conversation back to accountability and addressed the issue with a reductionist mindset. This was an awesome conversation!

  • @devsie11915
    @devsie11915 2 года назад +44

    He really seems like he’s gonna go home and think about this. Good work Ed!

    • @hudsontd7778
      @hudsontd7778 2 года назад +1

      I was thinking about it while eating a steak, Ed cognitive dissonance is disturbing.

    • @testsubjectt001
      @testsubjectt001 2 года назад +2

      @@hudsontd7778 pretty sure that's your cognitive dissonance, bro..

    • @devsie11915
      @devsie11915 2 года назад

      @@hudsontd7778 I can’t even tell what you’re trying to say here lol what cognitive dissonance is Ed displaying?

    • @hudsontd7778
      @hudsontd7778 2 года назад

      well its seems contradictory to look like a soyboy gay man and tell us men this is masculinity, Ed looks like a frail old women who would need a MAN to help him take the groceries to his pink car.
      Ed subjective morals just simple doesn't stand up to the reality of nature but Ed know that veganism is not good for humans because its NOT ABOUT HUMAN HEALTH its a animal is god human death cult.

  • @denystoscano2547
    @denystoscano2547 2 года назад +17

    Amazing conversation and refreshing to see someone’s lightbulb light up without continual rejection. Regardless of the argument, he did not deflect or was afraid of hearing the other persons point of view with the intent to prove them wrong as soon as they stopped talking. Ed you have done a wonderful job to engage in conversation and let the other party justify themselves rather than attack. This is the dialogue structure we need to help resolve some of our deepest problems as humans. I believe that Selfishness, unfortunately, is the biggest root of all issues we deem as wrong as a society.

  • @The8BitPianist
    @The8BitPianist 2 года назад +79

    The guy is intelligent, open-minded and very friendly.
    I'm often concerned of hitting on strong opposition when talking to meat eaters, but I should keep in mind that there's good and compassionate* people out there like this guy.
    *in heart, not (yet) in action, obviously

    • @DebugYourBrain
      @DebugYourBrain 2 года назад

      I was worried about this initially as well, but the surprisingly thing about getting out there and doing outreach is that you realize "intelligent and open-minded" is the norm not the exception. If you've got an inclination to do so I highly recommend trying your hand at outreach.
      If you've got a camera, even better as it helps you review and improve!

    • @The8BitPianist
      @The8BitPianist 2 года назад +2

      @@DebugYourBrain I've been meaning to join AV for a while now, but I still need to gather the courage to participate. (Also there's no AV near me, but I am moving later this year, so I'll start vegan advocacy then!)

  • @KevinLuna
    @KevinLuna 2 года назад +23

    This is how I expect all conversation about veganism to go

  • @robyngoldman-grunseich2912
    @robyngoldman-grunseich2912 2 года назад +17

    This was an incredible exchange of ideas! Eric was completely open and honest and was willing to listen and ponder his actions. He was also mesmerized by Ed's hands as he weaved through the debate. I don't know how it took me so long to find Ed but I'm glad I did and I'm glad I'm vegan!

  • @thomasroth1991
    @thomasroth1991 2 года назад +50

    I love how he followes Ed's hand with his eyes when Ed explains a point.

  • @KP-us5pq
    @KP-us5pq 2 года назад +48

    I think this guy represents most people. I applaud him for letting himself be open minded to think these things through while being on video.

  • @rahtsnake144
    @rahtsnake144 2 года назад +24

    what a kind, honest, & thoughtful guy. rare to see someone with such a small ego. gives me a lot of hope.

  • @izzym184
    @izzym184 2 года назад +185

    A few minutes in, Eric seems like a smart guy and very responsive! I hope he becomes vegan 🌱

    • @chrisoliver6690
      @chrisoliver6690 2 года назад

      The smart guy you talk of say the word "like" four times a sentence.

    • @WaddyMuters
      @WaddyMuters 2 года назад +15

      @@chrisoliver6690 I mean I‘d be a much worse speaker with a camera filming me.
      As someone who has transcribed a few interviews for documentaries in the past I can tell you that, for example, scientists are almost always awful infront of the camera, they often struggle to form full sentences with proper syntax.
      So I don’t hold that against people.

    • @FIshfood500
      @FIshfood500 2 года назад +1

      Not smart. But not as stupid as Ed

    • @amirrhodesve791
      @amirrhodesve791 2 года назад +5

      @@chrisoliver6690 o what is someone says like in one sentence? are you a perfect speaker with perfect grammar? no ones perfect at speak stop acting like you are!!

    • @violetjade64
      @violetjade64 2 года назад +3

      @@chrisoliver6690 most people use placeholder words subconsciously while they think of the right wording to say. it actually shows they are being thoughtful with their words.

  • @witriole_22
    @witriole_22 2 года назад +17

    Thank you, Ed. I keep watching/reading because you null my confirmation bias with NEW enlightening pathways to understanding, through compassionate discourse. Today I was reminded that the end goal of this is in fact to END animal exploitation and the institutional suffering of all beings, not merely to more efficiently snivel about each others'
    human shortcomings.

  • @user-kl4lm9rz7h
    @user-kl4lm9rz7h 2 года назад +17

    When I finally started my road toward veganism the first step for me was to stop buying any animal products. I wasn't vegan at this point yet because I would still eat dairy and fish if it was already at the table. Seeing Gary Yorofsky videos and a documentary called the Cove helped me to connect with veganism and activism, when before that I was only doing a boycott.

  • @ThatVeganTeacherYouTube
    @ThatVeganTeacherYouTube 2 года назад +1

    💚 The world needs more people like this curious and compassionate student. For people like this, we do not need to take a "hardline" approach. He will be vegan if he is exposed to a few more vegans along the path of his life who can continue to enlighten him. So...who among you will step up and help him get his 100 "clicks"? Vegans who are silent need to remember that they have so much more power than they think they do. Speak out. Wear vegan t-shirts. Order the vegan options loudly in restaurants. Remind people that they were all born vegan and all they need to do is return to the inner compassion they were born with. If you're vegan, make your presence known in the world. Don't just eat popcorn while watching videos like this. Engage. Be brave. Speak out and be the voice of the animals who are suffering so much and desperately need our help. Thank you for doing your best to be amazing animal-defenders! 💚

    • @Adelicows
      @Adelicows 2 года назад

      I am mostly a popcorn eater because I have severe social anxiety, but I did point out recently to an anti-vegan that children have to be taught to kill. It isn't natural and we weren't meant to do it. A child who kills an animal on their own would be labeled a psychopath and future serial killer. Watching these videos has been slowly helping me get up the courage to say something ✌️

  • @anthonytoulemonde6425
    @anthonytoulemonde6425 2 года назад +16

    OMG Éric MVP! So nice to see someone debating about veganism and coming to opposite conclusions to what he initially came in with, without getting irritated and always talking with much respect. My man Eric if you are reading these comments, know that you were admirable !
    I hope you managed to follow through and align with your personal morality and become Vegan!
    Like Ed said, best thing to do now is dive into the harsh reality of factory farming and looking at vidéos just to be 100% aware of where your money goes when purchasing these products.

  • @The_W3st_Is_The_B3st
    @The_W3st_Is_The_B3st 2 года назад +17

    He is much kinder and less defensive as I was when I was a heavy meat eater, so if I could become vegan, he surely can very easily.

  • @jeppemellbak3869
    @jeppemellbak3869 2 года назад +5

    this guy was so awesome. love how he didnt just listen, but actively wanted Ed to elaborate on certain points. he seemed like he was genuinely interested and wanted to make a change.

  • @joshuabruner9676
    @joshuabruner9676 2 года назад +17

    13:29 I'm so impressed with his openness. It's hard to be challenged, and especially on morality. Too often, we let feelings dictate the next 5 seconds instead of adhering to reason. Mensch.

  • @ChaseAvior
    @ChaseAvior 2 года назад +22

    "Most people eat animals because most people eat animals."

    • @maztergee
      @maztergee 2 года назад +6

      Because the meat is widely available thanks to mechanical means and no one has to go hunt, take down, kill, slaughter, skin, gut, cut up animals themselves. If they did then most of the world would be veg/vegan 🤝☺️

    • @exxtraterestial
      @exxtraterestial 2 года назад +2

      Yeah! I was the same. But the worst part is 0 knowledge about other sides of meat industry! Most meat eaters (just like us probably) have or had no idea what was on the plate, the history behind. I’ve developed such a huge empathy for animals that at this point I can even say I love animals more than humans.😂

    • @charlescarmichael56
      @charlescarmichael56 2 года назад

      @Happy Carnivore dude get a life … go find happiness

  • @samwingender
    @samwingender 2 года назад +18

    Protein? Lol. I do weightlifting, jiu-jitsu and ultra running. I've only gotten stronger since going plant-based.

    • @maztergee
      @maztergee 2 года назад +1

      Good for you buddy

    • @gula_rata
      @gula_rata 2 года назад +2

      totally agree. surprised myself on how much more physical endurance, strength and energy i got from a vegan diet. definitely improved. even got other fitness friends to try whole food plant based. powerful diet with no moral issues, saving the animals. its a win win for everyone.

  • @bgorichs7
    @bgorichs7 2 года назад +16

    Love the suggestions at the end for accountability and how to change what's 'normal' to you

  • @TempehLiberation
    @TempehLiberation 2 года назад +32

    Hope Eric does go vegan. It seemed to be an open, logical and (hopefully) fruitful discussion.

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +1

      What is that in your profile picture?

    • @TempehLiberation
      @TempehLiberation 2 года назад

      @@vioheubach3112 a random "cyberpunk horror photo" I don't know the artist but if anyone does I'll credit them for sure.

    • @vioheubach3112
      @vioheubach3112 2 года назад +1

      @@TempehLiberation
      Ah ok, thanks.

  • @joshhurst4170
    @joshhurst4170 2 года назад +6

    I thought the title of this video was sarcastic, forewarning us of an impending car crash of a discussion. How wrong I was! And happy to be wrong, too. Eric was so open and receptive. He really engaged with the questions you posed to him. He wasn't at all defensive. If only all exchanges on hard topics could be this easy! I hope that Eric does end up going vegan by taking it one day at a time. Maybe he can inspire others too! Good job Ed and Eric!
    Additionally, I have been thinking a lot since the Kurt Zouma/Cat incident. Like you, I used it as an opportunity to hold up the mirror to people, getting them to reflect on their behaviours and cognitive dissonance. I realised that, as I was just vegetarian (~95-99% vegan with my purchases/consumption), I was actually employing the same techniques of self-deception as they were. This incident and the subsequent discussions enabled me to look into that mirror and say, "You need to be accountable.". I've been living veganically for the last few weeks now. It has been so easy. There has only been 2 or 3 times where I have had to consciously not consume something that I would've done beforehand, and it has not been a great loss.

  • @henrywalton5967
    @henrywalton5967 2 года назад +53

    After watching innocent people getting blown up in Ukraine it's nice to remember there is hope for humanity with people like Eric. Thanks for everything you do Ed!

    • @harveyplantharvester1502
      @harveyplantharvester1502 2 года назад +2

      Don't believe everything you see on the "News."

    • @henrywalton5967
      @henrywalton5967 2 года назад +6

      @@harveyplantharvester1502 I'm not actually watching much news, mostly videos taken from civilians on smartphones.

    • @nicolao.dos.santos
      @nicolao.dos.santos 2 года назад +4

      @@harveyplantharvester1502 I am hearing it from friends in the Ukraine.

    • @ARKSURVIVOR879
      @ARKSURVIVOR879 2 года назад +2

      @@nicolao.dos.santos I hope they are ok👍

    • @nicolao.dos.santos
      @nicolao.dos.santos 2 года назад +1

      @@ARKSURVIVOR879 thank you. So far they are, but they see schools, hospitals and homes being shelled. They feel abandoned by the west. I feel powerless :(

  • @drpancake4103
    @drpancake4103 2 года назад +8

    This felt a bit like speed running. I feel like he would have benefited more with time to think through the points.
    Still, great to see you out there helping others look closer at this.

  • @sandorkocso1798
    @sandorkocso1798 2 года назад +11

    imagine your therapist being as efficient as Ed :))

  • @soscipherr
    @soscipherr 2 года назад +3

    Chills. This was the MOST satisfying outreach I've ever seen. 💜🌱👏

  • @eugeniabarone
    @eugeniabarone 2 года назад +10

    I really enjoyed this conversation. Eric seems like an honest and emotionally intelligent guy, no defensiveness just an open mind and curiosity! I hope he goes vegan. 🌱
    Amazing video as always, Ed!

  • @justincarrubba759
    @justincarrubba759 2 года назад +9

    This guy was chill. Real honest with himself

  • @SupremeBakedBean
    @SupremeBakedBean 2 года назад +6

    That accountability advice was excellent. I got maybe half way through 'Earthlings' as meat eater 10 years ago and made the switch then and there. I couldn't even finish the film.

  • @CureMW2
    @CureMW2 2 года назад +4

    What a cool conversation. Eric is so open to your points. Really nice to see :)

  • @leneotenurm1879
    @leneotenurm1879 2 года назад +9

    This is truly amazing. It's giving me hope that we actually can change the world.

  • @NoInjusticeLastsForever
    @NoInjusticeLastsForever 2 года назад +51

    Action is the only remedy to indifference, the most insidious danger of all. - Elie Wiesel

    • @janieswanson2549
      @janieswanson2549 2 года назад +1

      The only vice that cannot be forgiven is hypocrisy. The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy. - William Hazlitt

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 года назад +6

      "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." --Albert Einstein
      (Today, he would be vegan. It's only logical.)

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 года назад +4

      Google vegetarian quotes for wisdom from vegetarians from history like Da Vinci, Ben Franklin, Nikola Tesla, Voltaire, Tolstoy, George Bernard Shaw, and many more.
      Today, they would be vegan of course.

    • @janieswanson2549
      @janieswanson2549 2 года назад

      @@someguy2135 None of them would be vegan. It isn't convenient and it's boring.

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 2 года назад +4

      @@janieswanson2549 What prevented them being vegan was the knowledge that we now have about nutrition. It has never been easier or more convenient to be vegan. I challenge you to go to a good pure vegan restaurant and claim that it is boring. You can get every dish that you now enjoy in a vegan version.

  • @DebugYourBrain
    @DebugYourBrain 2 года назад +16

    You're ability to empathetically listen is unmatched and something I strive to emulate in my own outreach videos.
    10/10 as always!

  • @BenTroy23
    @BenTroy23 2 года назад +7

    I have been recently very Introverted and reserved as far as Intellectual discussions go but you remind me that just being vegan isn’t enough and that words travel with much more power. Thanks for reminding me never to lose sight Ed. 💚

    • @pinkcloud3126
      @pinkcloud3126 2 года назад

      Ahw, know it's also okay to be the quiet introverted vegan. We are not always able or in the right mental state to try and motivate others to go vegan. Just don't be too hard on yourself.

  • @emmawelsh5336
    @emmawelsh5336 2 года назад +3

    What a thoroughly beautiful exchange. I really appreciate that Eric was open to a discussion and interested to hear Ed's views. This made me smile today. Thank you Ed And best wishes to Eric.

  • @Midoriya-Izuku
    @Midoriya-Izuku 2 года назад +30

    What a great conversation you both had!
    This is a guy who's already vegan by heart. If you're reading this Eric, you're not alone in this! It gets easier over time once you do the proper research. Since you mentioned proteins and other amino acids as a first I would suggest trying a documentary like the Game Changers.
    Good luck on your journey man! I hope we all can make the world a better place!
    Keep up the good work Ed! You're awesome!

    • @TenTempeh
      @TenTempeh 2 года назад

      Game Changers is not the ideal source of information though.. There is plenty of fallacies, not my perspective but scientists' one

  • @fishfeelpain7764
    @fishfeelpain7764 2 года назад +2

    Yaaay love that you're putting out some debate videos again :)

  • @dianamartinezheredia9583
    @dianamartinezheredia9583 2 года назад +10

    I'm so sad I didn't get to see you at UCSD! It would have been great to meet you 😞. This video is great!! 🌱

  • @tobygosling1653
    @tobygosling1653 2 года назад +2

    what a lovely conversation, keep up the amazing work you do.

  • @craigo5030
    @craigo5030 2 года назад +46

    Eric is a vegan but has been brainwashed by marketing like lots of us have been
    He is actually very philosophical and his response has gave me great hope in how there are more people as logical as him

    • @crystalrainnwalton
      @crystalrainnwalton 2 года назад +5

      we are all born vegan friend, just raised as carnists.

  • @fra3rd
    @fra3rd 2 года назад +2

    Yoooo, this was so great!! Eric seems like a really good, compassionate person!! So refreshing to see a conversation like this!!! Thanks Ed and Eric!!

  • @cynicalidealist11
    @cynicalidealist11 2 года назад +36

    I relate to this non vegan more than any other one that you've spoken to. I could imagine myself saying the same things he is before going vegan.

  • @golactico1178
    @golactico1178 2 года назад +6

    Not directly related to this video, but I thought plant-based folk might be interested in this. My 15 yr old son went vegan a year ago. He influenced me to do the same (I'd been vegetarian for 30 years). Knowing how important it is for kids his age to get the correct nutrition, I educated myself a bit on which PB foods provide a healthy balanced diet. The dietary changes were not hard to achieve. A year later and I arranged a blood test analysis to check that all was well. The doctor reported that my son's results were quote 'really good' with every major nutritional indicator showing as it should be. This is a good practical example to counter the nutritional myths about a PB diet.

  • @MS-ib8xu
    @MS-ib8xu 2 года назад +18

    To the person being interviewed... Thank you for your sincere interview. You are a wonderful human being. Appreciate your honesty. Go vegan.

  • @animalsarebeautifulpeople3094
    @animalsarebeautifulpeople3094 2 года назад +62

    There are too many so called vegan activists who actually argue against actual vegan activism and argue for meatless mondays because "carnists don't like it when we preach veganism". I hope they watch this video and realize that we are fighting for every single individual animal. If we aren't fighting for an eventual vegan world we aren't animal rights activists

    • @ben66562
      @ben66562 2 года назад

      I have other vegans get mad at me all the time for this.
      Like a person will say "Yeah I'm not vegan, not ever gonna be, but I do eat locally/sustainably raised meat and I try to reduce and stuff" and I'll just go "oh actually here's some reasons why that's not really that great and why you might actually wanna reconsider that stance"
      And then I'll have "vegans" telling me- after like a one or two comment exchange- that I'm too aggressive..? and that this person is trying their best and we need more people like them and "we have to realize that not everybody wants to be vegan. baby steps are important. any change is good change!"
      Like i don't even know how to process that logic.

    • @ariella118
      @ariella118 2 года назад +1

      @@ben66562 Yeah. There has to be a balance. Obviously we don't want to scare them off, and we have to encourage them, but that doesn't mean we can't push them to be better. Even if we want them to listen, we can't say it's enough when it isn't yet.

    • @ben66562
      @ben66562 2 года назад +1

      @@ariella118 exactly. I just cannot compromise on that. if someone says they're going to start cutting back and eating local now then to me that just suggests they don't really understand then? and instead of just patting them on the back for coming this far or something I'm like well no what piece of the puzzle is missing? what conversation have they not had yet? what is it going to take to get them there? because the second you fully understand these things, there's no other possible conclusion you'd come to.
      and I've had conversations with people before where they start at "reduce, eat local, sustainable" and stuff and then once I just get across a few key points then they're putting it together and asking for advice on what to eat as a vegan. it does happen. obviously not with everybody. but it drives me nuts when people just want to leave the conversation there when sometimes they might just be one conversation away.

  • @ming4182
    @ming4182 2 года назад +4

    Eric is so humble and open-minded it almost melts my heart. If only all human beings are like him!
    Another thing that made my day today was that my ex-boyfriend who I broke up with over a year ago sent me a text today telling me that since he moved to another city, he watched Earthlings again himself (we watched it together once but it didn't really strike him that much) and has since been taking baby steps towards becoming a vegan. Today it's one month since he became a vegan. He said he owed me an apology because he once said "everyone does some evil things and maybe for me it's eating animals" and he felt embarrassed in his head every now and then thinking of what he said. Indeed, he firmly said he will never be a vegan when we were dating. I said the same thing too, a couple of months before I became a vegan in 2018. People can surprise themselves by what they could do and change. I'm convinced that if the vegan community keeps doing what they are doing, they will eventually reach the right people and make the change. A huge thanks to Ed again. Hopefully we are all an inspiration to someone else one way or another.

  • @alfieboyyy376
    @alfieboyyy376 2 года назад +6

    This gives me hope. Thanks for doing these Ed

  • @laurindolleschka6509
    @laurindolleschka6509 2 года назад +5

    This was such a pleasure to watch
    I wish I would have been so open minded before I started to get deeper in to the topic of veganism.
    Keep it up
    You are such an inspiration Ed
    Thank you 💚

  • @Katjahae
    @Katjahae 2 года назад

    What a lovely converstion

  • @exelmumu6708
    @exelmumu6708 2 года назад +6

    WOOOOW this guy gives hope in humanity !! That's how a healthy human being should think like. Thx dude, you'll see, being vegan is awesome!!

  • @palomaruz3169
    @palomaruz3169 2 года назад +2

    Eric is so sweet! I loved seeing him open minded, asking for further explanation and critically analysing his decisions.
    Lovely to see guys like him 😍

  • @prosandcons-fl2cc
    @prosandcons-fl2cc 2 года назад +3

    its nice to watch a civil discussion

  • @MrHobbes6
    @MrHobbes6 2 года назад +1

    Such a lovely person--the kind that gives you hope!

  • @alisiademi
    @alisiademi 2 года назад +3

    Ed's jacket matches the leaves on the ground. Love to hear outreach going this way!!!!

  • @VocalSpiritPresents
    @VocalSpiritPresents 2 года назад +2

    Yay, Eric!! What an open mind and honest conversation. Many blessings on your journey to live in alignment with your morals.

  • @mattmsantos
    @mattmsantos 2 года назад +14

    Wow. For the dude to END the conversation by asking Ed to elaborate on accountability is a VERY impressive conclusion to the video. Hell yeah.

  • @feemuller7107
    @feemuller7107 2 года назад +2

    0:25 that's the moment where I knew that it was going to be a great conversation. This guy was genuinely interested and open to the conversation. That's awesome!

  • @bimbolimbospam
    @bimbolimbospam 2 года назад +15

    Oh Ed this video makes me so happy… so hopeful… you have such a beautiful way about you, your words and tone. You are so informative and so kind. I wish I could come across more like you. I find it quite difficult to keep a level head, as I am quite baffled by people’s ignorance. The industry saddens me beyond words and sometimes I just get so hopeless and frustrated. What a beautiful person you are xxx

  • @GoVeganForTheAnimal
    @GoVeganForTheAnimal 2 года назад +2

    Amazing conversation, great topics discussed here!

  • @Ostekat
    @Ostekat 2 года назад +3

    Great interview. He seemed honest and openminded!

  • @belliebone
    @belliebone 2 года назад +1

    I like this guy. Curious, open minded, honest and willing to listen to opinions and ideas not familiar. 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

  • @WTFisMYname24
    @WTFisMYname24 2 года назад +5

    ... why is it that when Ed speaks in such a sophisticated manner i freeze up and cant help but get entranced.

  • @acyutaatipriyajambavatidas7954
    @acyutaatipriyajambavatidas7954 2 года назад +2

    He is such a genuine, nice guy. Beautiful conversation, thank you, Ed

  • @onedeathbyflame
    @onedeathbyflame 2 года назад +4

    This person might be young and naive, even low information but holy hell were they more honest, vulnerable, and critically thinking then all of the other interview subjects I've seen. Incredibly bright young person. They will go far

  • @bhavikasicka3098
    @bhavikasicka3098 2 года назад +1

    We need more people like Eric in the world. Willing to question their assumptions, curious to listen and learn, keen to evolve morally, able to critique oppressive systems of assimilative normative [carnist] cultural logics and behaviors, inclined to raise others up not bring others down, and humble enough to self-reflect! Kudos young man! :) A vegan in the making.

  • @BabyMango
    @BabyMango 2 года назад +7

    Cryin in the club. This gives me hope for humanity.

  • @Grimulus
    @Grimulus 2 года назад +1

    Proud of this guy. I wish all of us could start discussions with an open, non-judgmental mindset.

  • @soapberryyan
    @soapberryyan 2 года назад +4

    He looks so inspired, displayed genuine curiosity and honesty. What a beautiful man. If he's able to hold himself accountable, surely he will become vegan 💕

  • @lenamilde4944
    @lenamilde4944 2 года назад

    absolutely amazing debate as well as your day-by-day tip at the end