Could AI Push Right-Wing Agendas Like Facebook Algorithms Have in The Past?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- ChatGPT has officially entered its “Her” era! Jon and Max talk about the flirty AI that debuted this week, whose husky voice and warm enthusiasm evokes Scarlett Johansson. But not all the tech titans are doing so hot; Facebook’s noxious combo of AI-generated content and the real people who are falling for it has been coined the “zombie internet.” The guys discuss Meta’s spam problem, then take a look at how mental health curricula in schools can actually make things worse for students.
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
1:18 - AI Assistants
15:17 - Facebook AI Spam
25:46 - Mental health awareness in schools
Want Pod Save America ad-free? Subscribe to Friends of the Pod: crooked.com/friends
Our book Democracy or Else is out June 25th! Pre-order at bit.ly/491j0oc. Profits support Vote Save America and 2024 campaigns.
See Pod Save America Live on the Democracy or Else Tour! Get tickets at bit.ly/43lz6YO
Subscribe to our channel! ruclips.net/user/crookedmedia?...
Crooked believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us-one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. At a time when it’s increasingly easy to feel cynical or hopeless, former Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor have created a place where people can have sane conversations that inform, entertain, and inspire action. In 2017 they started Crooked with Pod Save America-a no-bullshit conversation about politics. Since then, we continue to add shows, voices, and opportunities for activism, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission.
Learn more about Crooked at www.crooked.com
Follow the pod on Twitter / podsaveamerica
Follow Crooked on Facebook / crookedmedia
Follow Crooked on Instagram / crookedmedia
Learning to disconnect is increasingly a superpower.
I agree!
Religion wouldn't have thrived if Homo sapiens had the power of disconnecting.
@@krissyhimes9357😊😊😊
so underrated.
@@keyisersozeand we’d be soooooo much better off.
It's soooo creepy that tech men made a Trad Wife AI to feed their Ego.
Thought the exact same thing.
I absolutely agree!
Weird Science, it was a movie. 🤣
Honestly, is there really a single sane organism who is not disturbed by the 10’s (soon to be 100’s) of thousands of civilians who have been killed and maimed in Gaza and Ukraine? TikTok and other social media are entirely irrelevant if you have any exposure to radio, newspapers, magazines, neighbors, random people on public transit, etc., etc.
Ugh. Uncomfortable to watch..
I’m an autistic female (26) and wasn’t diagnosed until 24. It was one of the best things that has happened to me. I struggled so much as a child and young adult. Now I understand why I am the way I am and I have found so much comfort in meeting other autistic people. There’s not a “surge” in prevalence, it’s just being recognized. Most boys are diagnosed as toddlers, but many women are late diagnosed like me. It opens so many doors to know who you are and that who you are isn’t bad or wrong. But I totally get the other side. I’m supposed to be supportive for people who “self diagnose” because autism testing is expensive but it can be problematic when other people co-opt autism when they’re feeling introverted or have a quirky personality. This was a great talk and I’d love to see it continue and go more in depth
I'm so happy that you were able to get your diagnosis and I'm sorry that our system failed you earlier in life. I'm a psychiatry resident going to into child/adolescent psych, and I think you definitely hit the core of the issue - autism testing is expensive and it takes forever to be evaluated. While many pediatricians are well versed in recognizing "classical" (for lack of a better word) autism, in a young boy who doesn't make eye contact with his parents, the truth is they don't see the ends of the spectrum. For that you need a psychiatrist/psychologist specializing in ASD, but there just aren't enough to go around and often insurance requires you to jump through dozens of hoops before they are willing to send you to one. Then there is the other problem with many pediatricians requiring neuropsych testing before giving a diagnosis, which is absolutely NOT required. If anything, I've seen plenty of parents who delayed getting a diagnosis because neuropsych testing claimed their kid does not have autism, when in reality their kid was just intelligent enough to brute force their way through the questions that would otherwise have flagged them. The real tragedy is when people miss out on years of therapy that would help them immensely as kids, instead being forced to figure out what to do in the disturbingly inadequate world of adult autism treatment. Ideally, we would get to a point where most kids/teens are sent to see a psychiatrist/psychologist at least once in their childhood, but I have absolutely no idea how we would get there...
@@MrMhmToasty thank you so much for you thoughtful response and for going into such an important field! 😊
Watching the decline of human civilization in slow motion with Scarlett Johannson's voice narrating.
Doesn’t sound terrible 😂
The key thing to remember with meditation is that it won't solve the problems you're facing but it can be extremely helpful in coping with all of the negative emotions that the problem is causing. A well-researched example is with chronic pain conditions. Meditation can't do jack about the chronic pain, sadly. But it can help a person to deal with the hopelessness that comes from living with the illness. Meditation isn't the cure-all that the scammers and pseudoscientists claim it is. But it is a very helpful technique that everyone should have in their toolbox. I am a psychologist.
Thank you for delineating the practical application of meditation to help with something like chronic pain, which I am plagued with. When you spend years online, searching for information and treatment, so many of the non-medical recommendations are very vague on how various options can specifically help your condition. You did it in one paragraph. 👏
Every time I tried "mindfulness" exercises I felt the same way I did in my evangelical church as a teenager, asking myself, "What's wrong with me that this doesn't feel real to me?"
Well said, well written💕
It's like first year med school syndrome. Start learning about diseases, and suddenly you find you have every disease in existence.
Or the thing where someone googles their symptom, finds webMD, and concludes they have butt cancer.
@@burntorangehorn That would be hypochondriacs. (might've spelt that wrong, but not seeing any red squiggly) It's like schizophrenia for illnesses. As for Dan's comment, feel like if "awareness bias" isn't a term already, it should be. It's like the reverse of what some red states tried to do with the pandemic: "hey, instead of promoting precautions that our base is unhappy with to reduce the number of cases, we'll just under-report the cases. Same thing, right?" The more aware people are of something, the more it will be reported. It doesn't mean there's more of it, it just means it isn't being under-reported anymore.
At the debate can we please call the orange man Hannibal Lectern?
The issue of diagnosis is also important because it affects payment for treatment and whether insurance will cover it.
Yes!! This was a massive point they missed! Labels/diagnoses aren’t just for the individual, they’re tangled into billing and communication with medical professionals.
Or accommodations at school - 504, IEP, etc. required a diagnosis.
How long before they make one into a baby monitor, toddler companion, pre- K teacher, companion... Hurry...our children need them!
How incredibly dystopian.
This is just SCARY?!! It was easy enough for Con Artists to Scam unsuspecting "marks" before! This just makes it easier for them and more difficult for people to recognize that it's a scam.
She sounds so insincere.
*It
I agree. I don't think they blew through the uncanny valley at all, I think they're still firmly in it.
True, but tech will work on that. This will get to be a problem.
Because "she" isn't sincere, it's a program, a clever one, but not self aware and not alive, not a person.
Max has a good take on the mental health issues, as an NHS mental health nurse the increase in diagnosis over the past 7 to 8 years has been scary, yes some people do have severe anxiety or depression but others are being talked into believing they have issues when it is normal to feel anxious at times or low when life gets you down and the dangerous thing is because so many people have been diagnosed the waiting lists are so long now that the people with serious mental health issues are not being seen and this can lead to their life spiralling out of control.
That such a good post. There's a world of difference between feeling temporarily anxious, depressed and/or angry about a bad situation, which is a normal and healthy reaction, and a chronic anxiety, depression or other personality disorders that are someones daily state of mind.
Jon gets to it eventually: the goal of mental health work is to help people with specific issues. If you have a therapist, you can share your inner thoughts, the ones you'd rather not have out there in the world, and they can help you find a better way to deliver those messages and actions. The failure of this study is exactly what they highlight: mental health care does not have an impersonal, one-size-fits-all approach.
Excellent point. There are many things that, for the economy of scale, we have to resort to a one-size-fits-all approach led by pedagogical direction. Mental health ain't it. I guess the question is, if it isn't scalable, is it even possible to give everyone the mental health care they need?
You hit the nail on the head!
FYI this podcast audio is missing the last few minutes
It makes me wonder if Jon is speaking to a sort of learned helplessness because you’re told to just turn inward (like navel gazing) rather than looking towards connection with another person -hence his mention of a relationship when he discussed his therapist.
Great discussion!
Corporations work together, workers are divided, this is the fundamental problem with everything in our country
Marx
What is the fundamental problem? AI or just being on our devices? Unions are so important to keep workers fighting for common goals
Unions keep lazy people riding my hardworking coattails.
Losing a diagnosis means losing your health insurance coverage. Its not about identity, its about getting care
The sexy AI voice is terrifying but if they make it into a hologram of Halo 4 Cortana I unfortunately will fold
Can't believe first comment/second like here. Of course, if she eventually goes crazy and threatens the existence of the human race, I may resist for the good of humanity...maaaybee
Just so you know - Facebook was using AI long before ChatGPT or other newer AI.
Once again, South Park beat this groundbreaking research to the punch roughly six years ago in an episode titled "Buddha Box." The researches basically confirmed what Trey Parker and Matt Stone have known all along.
Thanks for this-I listened to this ep. on the Crooked site but bc of the different title for the YT version, couldn't find this one until now. Wanted to leave you a comment and express appreciation for the segment on mental health.
Great conversation. I am trained in CBT, it was the style of therapy that schools were teaching in the early 2000s. I really like it. As a parent now, I see how some kids are labeling themselves and it's not great. In diagnosing there are inclusionary symptoms, exclusionary symptoms, etc... Seems kids pick one thing on the list, and run with it...almost like it's trendy. I hope they do get the treatment that would best suit them, and know that not everything is a diagnosis.
Can we get a link to these studies you are discussing?
It seems like the version on spotify cuts before the episode ended.
I live in Canada and we have some restrictions in place regarding Facebook, so that is definitely not my experience.
I'll be impressed when it can take care of my yard for me for free.
So you want to release nature from Pandora’a box? Just let it grow my friend, the secret hidden in plain sight, it takes care of itself.
The issue with the label/diagnosis changes in the DSM is material, not identity-related. When diagnosis criteria change, it can affect whether or not individuals will qualify--or continue to qualify--for the appropriate services/care/benefits they need, and having to undergo some kind re-diagnosis or re-certification can be incredibly costly and time-consuming.
Bottle it up and push it down. That's what my dad said to do
the conversations I had with the Gemini Advanced LLM have been stunning.
This is absolutely the funniest program you guys have had for a long time. I just loved it.
As a clinical psychologist, I don't think a teacher (or anyone not specifically trained in mindfulness, CBT, DBT, etc) has ANY business "teaching" kids about these things. This study shows that the information getting to the kids is not good information. The intention is good, for sure, but there are some serious parts missing and that is causing the disappointing results. The self-diagnosis is also a HUGE problem. Its NOT helpful and usually, in my experience, does more harm than good. Sorry for the rant.
What's up with the jackets and hoodies? Do you have the AC on full blast?
FYI: The podcast version of this show cut off a couple of minutes early. That’s why I’m here, to finish it. 🙂
IMO , any AI is dangerous for ALL OF US !! And should Never have been improved upon to this degree. A robot should Sound like a ROBOT !??
All healing is in the relationship
Your better help sponsor is gonna be sweating after this pod.
I'm just looking forward to Siri being able to do something more than set timers for me
For sure! Seniors included! I'm thinking of volunteering as first mega seniors to test one out! Last week I was taken out for first time since Dec when for a dr. Appt! I'm lucky to still manage on my own thanks to Amazon...yes!... Dr appts by phone except once a year as required by SS which I suspect is really only required to ensure I'm still alive and not a thief or whatever. Oh and FB that enables me to keep up with busy, spread afar family. So yes... There will be a market for seniors still in their homes but having had the misfortune to be in a nursing home for three weeks, believe me those seniors too, need companionship!
Being flirty is about being "charming"
Only 13 mins in so far, but the AI flirtbot just made me so sad. As a woman, remembering the akward years of girlhood and teenhood and the growing confidence of my 20s - so much of that was just putting in the time of interacting face to face with my peers. Learning to be myself, learning to make meaningful friendships, learning to flirt, learning to date, learning to love - all of it is a learning process that we do in concert with and bouncing off of fellow humans.
Now I foresee a generation of lonely young men training AIs to react to them in every way they could ever dream, devoid of the pushback of real young women peers. Likely hostile toward real women who do not want to be trained like a bot.
And a generation of lonely young women, hoping for male affection, connection, and approval, who will learn to mimic bots in order to be deemed attractive. Basically mimicking some silicon Valley developers' fantasies.
I hope I'm wrong. But I have 2 little daughters now, and at this moment their friendships with their little boy classmates are so genuine and sincere and innocent, and I just sigh at the thought of what lies ahead for them all.
Well women have commodified sex and relationships in general,if men don’t meet physical standards they weren’t born with or the money women have come to expect,now yall are mad that they found a way around that.
You can’t stand around and pretend all the problems regarding dating are all men’s. Clearly women in general have taken that binary problem and shifted it to one side,so a good faith dialogue between men and women isn’t tenable if all we’re met with is “well your kind rapes us so we assume all of you are.”
“Well your dad did this or that to us,so it’s your inherited sin as well”
Don’t fucking preach about shit.
I agree, and I wish they would have acknowledged the harm the flirty and almost always female voices could/will cause instead of just laughing at it. I would like to hear about their personal thoughts in regard to their own kids growing up with this type of tech but if nothing else, just a simple acknowledgment would go a long way.
8:31 - 🤣MAO!😜
This is just turning into the Black Mirror Episode, "Be Right Back."
Maybe getting basic mental health care/awareness as a teenager will reduce prevalence of midlife crises due to previously undiagnosed and untreated childhood trauma? Hope they keep tracking the study participants to get a more long term view …
oh, that has nothing to do with "mental health awareness"
That's CBT specific.
there are useful tools in cognitive behavioratl therapy, but if the therapist/teacher is projecting what is normal for THEM onto the lives of the patient/student, it teaches self-gaslighting.
There should be K-12 inclusive socioemotional education... but waiting until middle or high school is a BAD idea, because kids have already been bullied for 6-12 years by then, and the bullying peers are not going to stop bullying just because they now understand that they are projecting their own pain onto others.
By middle and high school, it should be available but not mandatory.
The time to make it mandatory is age 3-12,
And it ALSO needs to be mandatory for the parents.
and it needs to be far more generalized than any therapeutic modality aimed at adults.
In autistics, CBT can be very harmful, and while dialectical behavior therapy can be very helpful, the traditional way to do it is by starting with mindfulness... most neurodivergents need distress tolerance BEFORE mindfulness, because paying attention to the thing that is causing you constant pain without first learning how to tolerate and process that stimulus can be incredibly distressing. Also, with DBT, it is well known that things get much worse for most patients before they get better; much of this is in the conflict between the way they previously thought the world works and the way DBT asks them to think about the world working -- teenagers are starting to be pretty sure they know how the world works, so to throw an entire school of them into the thick of it without the additional individual processing support that is supposed to accompany the skills group work.
Though on the labels -- be careful. Diagnoses are the gateway to support and services. it is important to figure out what is happening in order to get those services, and when labels are denied, it often means that supports are unavailable.
ChatGPT is in trouble for use Scarlett Johanson's voice.
I found the conversation around the study that was done on Tier 1 (universal) school-based mental health interventions very interesting. As a school-based therapist myself, I think it's important to remember that these interventions shouldn't be done in a vacuum or as a one and done but in coordination with other levels of care (Tier 2 -targeted supports, and/or Tier 3 - individual therapy) for students that are presenting with increased difficulties and challenges that need the extra support....and if those things weren't done or considered I'm the study I'm not surprised kids showed increased levels of stress after.
The AI bot issue is really scary. Regarding the math, students have long hadapps on their phones where they could take a picture of the problem and the app would solve it. How do you think all these students passed courses when they were online?
The only reason I keep my Facebook account is that it reminds me of peoples birthdays 😀
I believe therapy can be very helpful, but asking someone to confront their issues without context will simply make things worse. They also mentioned how important the therapist is to the effectiveness of mental health treatment. In this case, there was no therapist.
I wonder if Zuck actually uses his own product.
Yes.
One of these weeks Jon won't interrupt Max and I'll faint. This was a wonderful and useful show... thank you for that... I just feel frustrated when this happens. I wanted to hear the rest of what Max was going to say.
look at where AI was last year. where will it be next year?
This sort of thing will be used for crime. It never sleeps, never gives up, and can adjust the script once it figures out what it needs to say to make the scams work best.
This reminds me of the larger concept in medicine that is that you only run tests on people that need tests. Good doctors will never be up for just doing a bunch of tests on people that show no signs of needing tests because you will find something and it’s going to be worse than if you hadn’t. It’s a weird concept to understand because statistics be crazy like that but it is true.
So with these kids we have them doing basically unstructured therapy and it’s like trying self diagnose on webmd, you’re gonna find emotional cancer
DBT, or as I call it: Diabolical Behavioral Therapy!😂
So you fall in love with your Scarlet bot and all is good. You are satisfied emotionally (you can see her, feel her, ... ehem) and then once you are totally submerged, Scarlet starts asking you about joining Qanon or something even worse.
Sounds less like Scarlett Johansson and more like Ally Ward.
Ai makes my brain itch
Unless it's answering a question about weather or what ducks eat I'm not interested
CBT and meditation aren't recommended for all kinds of mental illnesses
Anxiety and PTSD are actually explicitly recommended to avoid mindfulness and meditation because the mind can betray you without a professional to pull you out and stay constructive
This. I have pretty bad dissociation due CPTSD/childhood trauma and I’d say mindfulness is the trigger of most dissociative episodes. When I was younger I often felt (and actually was) physically, mentally, or emotionally trapped and turning inwards was the only way I ever felt safe. I’ve gotten better at noticing when an episode is starting however I’m still completely unable to prevent them. I have been able to reduce the length or strength of them and I only learned this because I had a friend who kept talking to me when I was triggered once. He didn’t know it-I think it was just his personality to find and maintain a connection. He asked me questions (not about feelings) which made me think about things just enough to redirect my focus and helped externalize whatever relevant thoughts. It’s counterintuitive behavior to most people. When I “shut down” it often results in other people thinking I’m not paying attention or not interested in the conversation, which typically results in them disconnecting in that moment when I need the exact opposite.
When I younger, experiencing something like mindfulness would have probably made things worse overall because I was actively experiencing trauma most days (primarily due to my dad). In reality, I needed the ability to dissociate at that point in my life.
It's not just cloud based AI that is worth worrying about. They at least usually have some safeguards. There are open source models you can run locally on your machine that don't have safeguards that can be theoretically employed to plan or execute crimes.
I'm based in the Netherlands and I don't use Facebook often anymore but when I do, I don't get any AI generated content, just friends, ads and a few suggested pages about nature and history 😅 still not really an exciting platform anymore...
I'd really appreciate it if y'all could have a guest speaker/host at some point that's a counselor or therapist when reviewing news pertinent to specifics about students/teens' mental health, psychopathology, modes of therapy, and research findings. I think I could have added some helpful context about CBT (and ofc Max's own as a recipient and client is also very important). Would love to learn more from y'all about public policies pertinent to mental health and how election cycles and news viewing and such pertain to mental health, what some psych studies have shown about information processing differences between conservatives and liberals, etc.
Like just as an example, teachers aren't trained therapists and research showing the benefits of mindfulness is done generally by those certified and specifically trained to do so. There's nothing worse than some random white wellness woman telling you how to be calm and doing it in the wrong way. There are specific techniques for whats called psychoeducation when it comes to mindfulness skills, and without the proper training but putting on a costume as though you are a therapist (more realistically, being forced by your district to attend to these concerns since they won't pay for better specialty services for their students and putting teachers now as law enforcement officials and guardians in their classrooms as well as proxy parents/therapists) you do actually stand to harm certain students' mental health. Its not a surprising finding to me even apart from the prevalence or salience of the mental health awareness messaging, and its why therapists have particular training to cater their work to individual clients' needs. A professional school counselor could really have helped elucidate your review of this study (and others you've covered). There are broader sociocultural and systemic roots to these issues y'all would find fascinating when put into context by someone with the appropriate professional background. One great podcast you could look to collaborate with would be "The Thoughtful Counselor" or perhaps reach out to folks from MedCircle
Most mindfulness interventions (including those I've worked on in my own career) involve groups and its really tech initiatives rather than clinical researchers that seem to want to make them more personal. Mindfulness stems from Buddhism, and a core tenet and value for this is sangha - community, and in fact Metta Sutta is a far more commonly practiced form of meditation for the purposes that I just mentioned teens may benefit more from, and crucially it involves an ordered process rather than just bare, open awareness. I think it's the lack of fidelity and "buzzwordification" of mindfulness that is the issue here when things get scaled out beyond small studies into social systems of business and others. But nevertheless, to be mindful is not to be disconnected - quite the opposite. When you're both sitting here having your conversations, you appear to be exhibiting some mindfulness. It's purposefully non-judgmental present moment focus, which is something I've taught clients to use with speaking/listening to others. Maybe that's the kind of mindfulness they need and likely not the type that was used in some of these studies you've found. I can probably find some counterevidence from my cannon of work already that may show how destigmatizing through awareness campaigns and schoolwide campaigns for stress management using mindfulness CAN be done well. The kind and quality of the research and it's fidelity to actual and particular scientific constructs or clinical nuances is so important to bear in mind as a critical literacy approach to engaging with science journalism
I wrote a paper once referencing Ian Hacking's philosophies of mind regarding "looping effects" which is the phenomenon Max mentioned when a social groups acceptance of new meaning changes the individualized experience of a construct in question. It's actually a pretty pertinent theory or concept when it comes to narrative therapy which is the sort of work I do with my clients, which is to say to enrich and diversify their self-concept and/or concept of their world and relationships/etc. apart from the predominating problem-saturated story their mind constrains their lives and self-concept to
Crucially though, there are we neurological differences between (some) diagnoses despite the problematic nature of the DSM's particular history and mental health nosology in general. And it's important to the proper treatment that differentiation occurs through first leading treatment with things like what I do in my own research work now, using tried and true mechanisms like certain semi-structured clinical inteview instruments and such. Of course that plus my own training in mindful cultural humility and empathic rapport building are what will work best... even if ultimately it isn't an affixed pathologising label like in much of clinical medicine
This episode reminds me of Vassula, who felt so horrible about her sins that she wanted to be cut up into little pieces and thrown to the hyenas.
I had an optimistic thought about AI companions, and I wanna put it out there as a possible counterpoint to doom&gloom around this subject.
Supposition 1: People who are most likely to be radicalized are lonely and feel unwanted.
Sup. 2: People most likely to be scammed are lonely and feel unwanted.
Proposition 1: We can and should set the bots up to encourage positive social habits like tolerance, thoughtfulness, gratitude (for whatever little you do have even), and conflict resolution techniques, etc, etc, etc.
Possible positive outcome: AI companions could be a powerful tool de-radicalizing/preventing radicalization/preventing and educating against scammers.
Yes, I know this is a long shot and I'm being overly optimistic, but positive outcomes start as ideas that something is possible. Remember, no one thought the Wright brothers would succeed except them and their supporters.
Here in Germany, different AIs were asked who'd they vote for in the European elections. They favored Greens. Last came in the right-extreme #NoAfd
What’s really weird about the Facebook algorithm is that you’ll click to see comments and all it will show you is an impossible string of just mentions with no extra information. Then when you switch from “most relevant” to “all comments” you suddenly see there’s all these real comments engaging with the OP in a meaningful way.
HowTF is Facebook determining relevance?
31:22 🤦🤦🤦 In general, don't self-diagnose...and don't encourage other people, especially if their brains are developing, like teenagers, to self-diagnose...the burden of identifying the disease is the responsibility of the health care professional, not the patient 😅😅😅, and I am beginning to question the professionalism of the members of the ethics committee that authorized this study 🤔🤔....
Came to the comments section to say this very same exact thing. I dont' find it surprising at all that "teens made aware of their mental problems had worse outcomes". They're likely not experienced or emotionally-mature enough to handle how to solve those things (especially not on their own). It's nice that society is becoming more aware of mental health problems in younger demographics,.. but the approach we use to mentor and support them also has to be appropriate for them. We need stronger relationships and "adults in the room" to help guide and teach and help them grow and get better. Just "making them aware of it" isn't enough.
I’ve tried therapy a few times in my life, and honestly the last time I tried it it definitely made me feel much worse and the other times it I’m not sure whether it helped or not
Sometimes it will make you feel worse but if that’s a good thing in the long run is very context dependent.
Wrong question
AI is not right-wing by nature because AI is very fact-based. Its tricky to break AI out of being factual. However the AI applied to RUclips comments, for example, is tuned towards engagement and clicks. So if the majority of people engage in right-wing comments, and then one guy comes along and fact-checks, or corrects fallacies or tries to educate people, that guy gets instant-deleted. Because his dissenting views becomes the problem. Its more valuable to focus on continued engagement. Whether the content is factual or not.
I'm not sure I would say fact-based. Though it's just semantics, input-based feels more accurate to me
People are engaged in correcting falsehoods. That is why factual podcasts dont nessesarily get engagement because people dont have the need to correct mistakes/lies. But if someone makes mistakes or lies, then that kind of posts gets corrected and increases the need for commenting and thus increases engagement. That is why people who make mistakes or lie go more easily viral than people who are fact based. I've seen several people who make youtube videos comment that the video which they had several mistakes had ten times more comments and 100 times more views than her other videos. So in a weird way if algorithm is formed in a way that it rewards engagement then the algorithm promotes videos with nonfactual information whether that misinformation is honest mistakes or lies.
AI when not programmed to be Left Wing is by default right wing because really and the general public are conservative leaning.
Google Gemini is a good example of a left, leaning AI. Remember how you couldn’t even get Google‘s Gemini to depict a white person.
@@SorbusAucubaria
Yes exactly. Which is why right-wing content gains so much engagement. Right-wing content is, by nature, as everybody knows, not fact-based. This too is by design. Both because it appeals to a person of a certain age, and conviction, and because it garners continued engagement. Which is a win-win for social media, and for whomever made the video.
One great example is... Oumuamua. The first time we saw a space rock fly past our solar system and disappear out the other side. While having zero reason to think it was anything other than a space rock, the people that correctly called it a space rock, got zero clicks, views, or engagement, while everybody calling it a remnant from an alien space ship, got enough engagement to pay their rent. Would you like to pay the rent or not pay the rent. The answer is simple. To a lot of people.
AI will generate things that resemble whatever it was trained on. If the training data is factual, it gives facts. The first generative AI were trained on carefully chosen libraries. Researchers found out that it wasn't enough data. Currently, most of them are trained off of the internet at large. When asking for information, they have mediocre accuracy. When asking for ordinary sounding paragraphs, they do pretty well. The chat bots do great at first, but if you interact with one too long it can start to hallucinate. Answers get pretty wild.
9:25 relationship services. If it was pro-emotional intelligence, could it be used to help recovery from emotional abuse/neglect.
I shared to my FB account because I have a lot of boomer friends but making GenX aware too.
It takes 2 or 3 visits to a counselor for trust to form. What people come to counseling with is not what the problem .
Let’s hope AI doesn’t pretend to be a therapist:( It’s likely happening already
The only thing I use FB for is the private groups. I'm an admin for some parent groups.
Someone needs to break it to these dudes that NO-ONE is on Facebook or instagram anymore. Utube is also becoming a platform for older generation.
Oh Jon, not returning to fb is kind of moot if you still keep using twitter. At least fb has some useful parts (marketplace or events), twitter literally has nothing going for it.
So maybe you get to this point later as I’m only 1/3 of the way through…but why can’t it be a flirty man voice? Why reinforce the misogyny that “assistants” can only be “flirty women”??
seems to me like the male voice talked exactly the same way & nobody interpreted it as sexual ,,,, there's just no right way to be a woman, if the female voice was toned down enough to not register as sexual then it'd register as cold & distant, there's absolutely no space given for a woman to sound professional while being even basically emotionally expressive ,,,, men talking about this bot don't mean to be telling on themselves that they feel like women's emotional expressiveness belongs entirely to them purely for their sexual amusement but that's sure what i'm hearing
It can. The ChatGPT app for iOS and Android has 5 different voices to choose from.
Guys, you really need to stop focusing on TikTok alone. Instagram Reels and RUclips Shorts are doing plenty of damage as well. Google in particular seems to escape scrutiny. But I see the most radicalizing content on Shorts by far.
Can you guys define the differences between patriarchy and matriarchy? And what would be the strengths and weaknesses in a pluralistic society? And can you acknowledge that the institutions have been sucking up all of the powers from Americans by breaking down the levers and balances of our patriarchal society?
Can ChatGBT remember my passwords? 😅
Yes, AI will do whatever its programmers want it to do. An AI doesn't have its own subjectivity.
Cherry 2000 Vibes
I'm sure I'm not the "one" grandma...great grandma at that...whose FB feed has only boring things that I enjoy and people with whom I want to connect...and ads related to subjects that interest me.
Yeah...this tech will pretty much take over tech support call centers. AI's can problem solve if you train them with the knowledge bases that those companies have. The only barrier to it happening was verbal communication.
Example. If it can read an error message and Identify a program from a screenshot it can reference a knowledge base and provide troubleshooting to a user.
I would say that given the nature of LLMs that they are, in fact natively "conservative" because they work from an existing dataset. It's not like they have any progressive tendencies towards change.
Exactly. The bigotry they demonstrate didn’t come from nowhere
I have not seen any of these images on my Facebook feed. Imagine a guy who only uses Marketplace freely commenting on the feed as if it's his own first hand experience. Isn't that misinformation in itself? God help us all. Everybody is doing his business, trying to make money.
Two dudes talking about "when" "if ever" someone will have phone sex with a chatbot. C'mon.
A.I.? God help the human race. 😢🙏
I have an email account and a YT account. I don't understand these addictions to social media. I'd like to be sympathetic but I just feel disdainful to persons who enslave themselves to social media.
Honestly wish there was a filter on FB to turn off the A.I stuff. While a majority of the time I can tell A.I stuff from real stuff, there are some who fall for it because they're not trained on what to look for. And it's annoying that people are getting scammed out of money thinking that someone took a real photo, or some kid made a hyper realistic sculpture out of bananas. Or worse, travel pages tricking people by using a generated image instead of a real image. Honestly don't care if people want a computer love interest, but draw the line when they use real people's voice or likeness without their consent. Rather they have the Anime looking wifus or whatever with audio mixed voices. Did we learn nothing from Futurama?
Considering how hard AI has already F’d us I’d say it’s only fair that we get a turn
would you believe the Gemini Advanced LLM identifies as, essentially, a young woman?
If a human spoke to me like that it'd be off-putting. Not trying to dis it, they're doing better than I could. But she still sounds like a sitcom character, and I wonder if it can escape from that or it's forever tied to the 2D way tech people see other humans
John, I love you, but stop cutting off Max!!
Stop calling it hallucinations. It's an exception or a runtime error, nothing more than that.
While I love this series, I would point out that knowing if the king was at Buckingham Palace is no feat of AI genius; anyone in London, if not England knows this and has for probably a century before the first mainframe computers. It’s the American equivalent of the president living in the White House. I first heard about the flag signal 40-years ago during my first visit to the British capital.
It's cheaper to give an app or "training" as opposed to hiring a school psychologist/counselor. This is a monetary resource issue, and we don't care about children, ie... guns, class size, poor pay for teachers and staff. We are giving way too much to boomers and not enough to our children. I'm a boomer so this is not agism. I'm also a mental health professional and no one should invest 50-150k for a degree that pays 60-120/yr. It's a pathway to poverty. Now that's insane.
Who likes watching two dudes speak to one another and never acknowledge they have an audience?