Thanks for sharing Mr PayDirt, Maybe the premier world leading critic on back blading ,Mr Hardhat Clipboard, had a traumatic experience with trunnion bolts on a dozer push arm, whilst back blading as a young man . So now he preaches from his high-vis pulpit, warning against the heinous acts of back blading in a polite civilised society, Cheers from down under.
Jeff, I will tell you a little story about back blading. About 25 years ago when I was wearing a shop foreman's hat we had this one operator. This guy was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread, I mean they chased him down, wined and dined and gave him the sun and the moon. We had a really sweet D7, can't remember the designation but a high drive, very low hour machine. So they put wonder bread onto it. He decided one day that they road going into where they were working ( westcoast logging ) needed to be graded, so he dropped the blade and back bladed 15 km, turned around and went 15 km back. 30 KM of hard shot rock road. Frog, what frog. Time and place for everything. As far as stuck tonka trucks, that was easy. When I was night shift shop foreman at a coal mine they sunk a 793 pretty much the same as yours. I think it was 3 D-10's to get it out. I got the call to get the cables, we had them stored on some racks on the side of the shop. Great big heavy monsters. Took 4 of us to move them LOL.
Sure did enjoy Your opinion piece on back dragging. I will have to admit to being with the legion of operators that have committed that offence. Woe be to Our Tribe. Best Wishes Mister Anderson. 👍🇺🇸
Here in the midwest we have to bury stuff at least 5 or 6 foot below the top soil surface to make sure the frost heave doesnt push the stuff back to the surface. but we dont have a layer of gravel either.
It's your dozer.your right.if the 2bolts won't hold dragging al little dirt well that's a little telling.i think this guys wife ran off with someone who did a little back blading.another awsome video.Thank You Sir.
All the proper old school blademen I ever worked with ALWAYS backbladed... Final trimming on highway construction subgrade & roadbase works & final pass on topsoiling...
Those bolts that hold the push arm are very beefy, they would be rated in tens of tons each. It would take some kind of catastrophic shock load to stretch them. Even then, they are a simple replacement and have good accessibility. IF people were breaking them, they would have very likely been upsized by now.
The difference between "use" and "abuse" confounds many people, probably most people. Maybe Morgan should ask ARP for some stronger bolts, CAT obviously doesn't know metallurgy.... 🙄
Posabley glacial moraine . . . I learned about this in Alaska. When the ice is advancing it is a conveyer belt for big rocks, the melt runoff takes smaller stuff away. Then when the ice retreats all the rocks are left behind in a big line. The Homer Spit is a great example of a glacial moraine. So somewhere like an Idaho valley where glaciers are long gone runoff silts in and covers the glacial moraine so it isn't visible like it is in Alaska's younger landscape. So it would be responsible I think that you'd have a band of glacial moraine rocks acting as a dam slowing water so silt falls out eventually making deep topsoil behind it.
Great video Jeff always enjoy watching you work dirt to cover up rocks. You do what you have to do with your D9 I'm sure you know what it can do forwards or Backwards. Thanks for sharing Jeff stay safe.
I have Back Draged in my snow plow truck in the summer months because I don't have a Bull Dozer. I have never broken or damaged any part of my blade or truck simply because I use common sense. If a frickin Bulldozer cannot be used to back blade then it's because the operator doesn't respect or care about the machine. Why anyone would employ such a person I have no clue 🧩🧩. On a side note I wish I knew someone with a small dozer to help a small business in northern MN that has issues with their road around their building that keeps swallowing class five gravel leaving Huge holes which are a bitch to plow in the winter months. If I had a dozer, borrowed or rented cheaply I could at least level the road out. My snow plow isn't heavy enough or is my old CASE 1537 Skid steer. Love your Videos and your Opinions, Common sense. TY❤
MaN I love that Loader! I have pulled out a stick dozer with an excavator many times. Where do I pull if I can? The BLADE! Never had a failed bolt yet!!
Now Jeff don’t go picking on that O.G., (old gentleman) Frank Cunningham. He thinks you are a strange “feller”. By the way, not sure if you could see it, but you have a bucket pin working its’ way out on that loader boom… hahaha..! I know, I know, it’s a left over bucket level indicator attachment point. Great video, can’t wait for the rock rake video(s). Thank you sir.
Hi Jeff love the videos what I found to work good is pull the pile down with excavator than level off easier and don't have the dirt pile falling on the undercarriage
Put 300 ton of that type and size of rock along a road ditch that the road was going to fail into, this past week we’ve been paying 21.50 a ton so if you can get it to Ohio we can use it. Love your videos and keep up the great content. P.S I also restore antique John Deere tractors in my spare time
The dozers are meant to push very hard forward and backblade lightly backwards. You have to remember the guy telling guys not to do it has employees who half of them probably don't give a damn about the equipment they are operating. He may have seen guys back blading in rock and I imagine if you hooked a solid rock back blading backwards you could rip the bolts out, stretch or break them. I think a good operator with common sense in dirt can back blade with no problems. There are a lot of operators without common sense though. I used to do a lot of fire road dozing with a D6C 10k and The trick I learned was to keep a full blade of dirt and I could make a really smooth road. Every once in a while I would back blade in small spots if the road had been messed up bad already or if I had to pull dirt back in from the sides.
yup your correct, so instead of telling the idots the bolts will break why not just explain why they don't want you to back blade just yet, and then give them instances where they can and how to do it......things that make you go hmmm
@Jpaydirt Yes, that would have made more sense.. I love your channel, your work ethic, and your mechanical abilities. Be safe around all that big heavy stuff, it's unforgiving when something goes wrong.
“These machines are designed to push they are not designed to pull” well shit now we gotta take all the rippers and winches to the scrap yard, park the pull scrapers, and hope if we get stuck there’s something else around for a pull. Oh and someone better let Cat know, the operator instructions used to contain how to properly back blade. If they’d hire operators instead of cowboys they wouldn’t have to worry about those 4 precision bolts.
Love the old iron doing a very hard days work, great machinery well serviced. But please straighten up the left hand headlight on the D9 ? If I lived in the USA I would have come and done it ! I am a little far away Adelaide SA.
in the end ITS YOUR DOZER !!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know lots of operators 50 plus years owner operators they all BACK BLADED !!!!!!!!!!!!! ME TOO!
Had a old dozer hand tell me once if the blade was made to drag backwards they would have put on the back of the cat ,as i was dragging the blade backward on a road for log trucks to get over ,lol
#backblade funny how many dozers in our area had “backup rippers” ? Ever heard of em? Well I have never seen a blade pulled off by backup rippers. No it makes more sense to spin the dozer around and push right? Spend another three hours? 😂
Lol Jay you and I know! Those that do it right always back blade at the end ! Makes your work look nicer and more professional! I was taught that's how you finish! Cause who in their right mind wants to see track marks at the end when your done?
The first big mine I worked at had 769B dump trucks then moved up to these little 50 ton Wabcos. The last place I worked ran 797 Cats. Dump trucks sure have come a long way. As for backblading...NEVER done it myself😉🙃😄😁😆😅🤣. It is frowned upon in machinery world over here, but sometimes the need arises. NO ONE EVER DOES IT THOUGH, or even sees it done, unless some fun can be had with the guilty.😂
Jeff on know your busier the heck , but that D7 you have with a Beals brush blade could sort out alot of rock, actually have done it before with pretty good results, mightbto add a couple of teeth if needed, those old brush blade are laying around the country not used mush anymore,don't remember if that D7 was a C frame or push arms on blade, Beals blade pin to a C frame
Great video 👍The reason the guy says don't back blade it would mean his dumb cousin would be out of a job and he would have to find him another stupid job to do 😂😂😂😂
Jeff the great salt lake flooded Idaho, Washington and Oregon several times. I can't remember what page it was on but in the book "fires,faults and floods" it showed the snake going across Oregon in two spots and shows its current path. Sorta like the Columbia up above bakes lake just to the south of grand coulee.. we have a spot east of walla walla that you can see over 50 layers of silt from the Missoula floods along the walla walla river...
jeff i sent ya a video link about the repeated floods from the lake that once dominated most of northern utah the remains are of course the salt lake and the salt flats it makes giant ripples in the land around the snake river region even up north in pokie
Amen and Aaaaaamen!! To the back blading. The Mines sack blokes if they catch them, they reckon the same nonsense as that bloke, as well as they're worried about wearing the cutting edge bolts. For cryin out loud, how else are you meant to level out in a tight spot doing boxes etc if you can't?
Jeff what do you think those rocks when I look at them right away? I think of the Flintstones and what their houses are made of that rock reminds me of the Flintstones😂
I’m amazed that I’ve gotten away with back blading with D-8’s and D-10’s all these 50 years and haven’t broken a pile of trunnion bolts. Guess I’m just plain lucky.
If you're going to bust off those bolts you're doing it wrong. I reckon you could lift the whole machine by those 4 bolts.(wouldn't stand under it at the time....)
Hi Geoff is farm land expensive were you are as it seems a lot of expense to clear ground were we live in the UK it's around £8500 English pounds per acre
I'll say one thing. After all the rocks are gone that soil does look pretty good. Not good old black Midwest topsoil, but it looks good halfway across the Country
@@Jpaydirt loved your response to back blading , outa curiosity does the 9 have a float position on the blade lift. I know the loaders and traxcavators as we called them over here in Scotland had them but I only ever ran a D4 for a couple of days about 45 years ago and I can’t remember. LOL
@@Jpaydirt 😂😂😂Well I do know that engaging float ain’t gonna do no no good while in a forward gear. Do you think I should buy some Morgan stock, they do look after there equipment.
I ran dozers for just about fifty years and that backblade story is one I've never heard? Kinda like 81 million votes.
Thanks for sharing Mr PayDirt, Maybe the premier world leading critic on back blading ,Mr Hardhat Clipboard, had a traumatic experience with trunnion bolts on a dozer push arm, whilst back blading as a young man . So now he preaches from his high-vis pulpit, warning against the heinous acts of back blading in a polite civilised society, Cheers from down under.
Nick Zentner knows Geology. Only he doesn't win. Love his videos too. Thanks for posting, Jeff.
Jeff, I will tell you a little story about back blading.
About 25 years ago when I was wearing a shop foreman's hat we had this one operator.
This guy was supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread, I mean they chased him down, wined and dined and gave him the sun and the moon.
We had a really sweet D7, can't remember the designation but a high drive, very low hour machine. So they put wonder bread onto it.
He decided one day that they road going into where they were working ( westcoast logging ) needed to be graded, so he dropped the blade and back bladed 15 km, turned around and went 15 km back. 30 KM of hard shot rock road.
Frog, what frog.
Time and place for everything.
As far as stuck tonka trucks, that was easy. When I was night shift shop foreman at a coal mine they sunk a 793 pretty much the same as yours. I think it was 3 D-10's to get it out. I got the call to get the cables, we had them stored on some racks on the side of the shop. Great big heavy monsters. Took 4 of us to move them LOL.
That's a little to far LOL
Maybe the truck driver was a former drivers Ed
Sure did enjoy Your opinion piece on back dragging. I will have to admit to being with the legion of operators that have committed that offence. Woe be to Our Tribe. Best Wishes Mister Anderson. 👍🇺🇸
Here in the midwest we have to bury stuff at least 5 or 6 foot below the top soil surface to make sure the frost heave doesnt push the stuff back to the surface. but we dont have a layer of gravel either.
I knew something was coming when you were making fun of back blading.Had me laughing when you gave your professional opinion on the subject.
Big speed bumps
The Frank comment was hilarious, had me laughing pretty good haha Thanks Jeff
It's your dozer.your right.if the 2bolts won't hold dragging al little dirt well that's a little telling.i think this guys wife ran off with someone who did a little back blading.another awsome video.Thank You Sir.
All the proper old school blademen I ever worked with ALWAYS backbladed... Final trimming on highway construction subgrade & roadbase works & final pass on topsoiling...
Those bolts that hold the push arm are very beefy, they would be rated in tens of tons each. It would take some kind of catastrophic shock load to stretch them. Even then, they are a simple replacement and have good accessibility. IF people were breaking them, they would have very likely been upsized by now.
The difference between "use" and "abuse" confounds many people, probably most people. Maybe Morgan should ask ARP for some stronger bolts, CAT obviously doesn't know metallurgy.... 🙄
@@lt1nutdam …..you just said what I have been trying to for years….. it doesn’t only apply to dozers ….all equipment!!!
If you don't know how to run it stay off of it
They made those tough
About 40 years ago, I had an opportunity to run a 7G that had backup rippers mounted on the backside of the blade.
Works both ways
and here's me thinking back blading was just sharpening the cutting edge, who knew. Another great video bro. Safe travels. Ken.
Posabley glacial moraine . . . I learned about this in Alaska. When the ice is advancing it is a conveyer belt for big rocks, the melt runoff takes smaller stuff away. Then when the ice retreats all the rocks are left behind in a big line. The Homer Spit is a great example of a glacial moraine. So somewhere like an Idaho valley where glaciers are long gone runoff silts in and covers the glacial moraine so it isn't visible like it is in Alaska's younger landscape. So it would be responsible I think that you'd have a band of glacial moraine rocks acting as a dam slowing water so silt falls out eventually making deep topsoil behind it.
Thanks for the video Jeffrey that last one was 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤it. Take care of yourself and family and Griffery and be Blessed ❤️❤️.
Great video Jeff always enjoy watching you work dirt to cover up rocks. You do what you have to do with your D9 I'm sure you know what it can do forwards or Backwards. Thanks for sharing Jeff stay safe.
I have Back Draged in my snow plow truck in the summer months because I don't have a Bull Dozer. I have never broken or damaged any part of my blade or truck simply because I use common sense. If a frickin Bulldozer cannot be used to back blade then it's because the operator doesn't respect or care about the machine. Why anyone would employ such a person I have no clue 🧩🧩. On a side note I wish I knew someone with a small dozer to help a small business in northern MN that has issues with their road around their building that keeps swallowing class five gravel leaving Huge holes which are a bitch to plow in the winter months. If I had a dozer, borrowed or rented cheaply I could at least level the road out. My snow plow isn't heavy enough or is my old CASE 1537 Skid steer. Love your Videos and your Opinions, Common sense. TY❤
MaN I love that Loader!
I have pulled out a stick dozer with an excavator many times. Where do I pull if I can? The BLADE! Never had a failed bolt yet!!
Now Jeff don’t go picking on that O.G., (old gentleman) Frank Cunningham. He thinks you are a strange “feller”. By the way, not sure if you could see it, but you have a bucket pin working its’ way out on that loader boom… hahaha..! I know, I know, it’s a left over bucket level indicator attachment point.
Great video, can’t wait for the rock rake video(s).
Thank you sir.
Thinks? No I know he is strange😂
@@Digginok hahaha..! Yep, I was recalling your comment when you were sittin on your front porch, and watched him drive off to head home…
I seen the new rack on you post you did looks like it will work well. well done guys. cheers.
And Jeff, you know what you shouldn’t be operating with those yellow chore gloves on either. Cats controls are just not designed for it! 😂😂😂😂
WoW, thats crazy, i backblade all the time with my JD 400G !!! Guess i been going it wrong all this time !!!!
Hi Jeff love the videos what I found to work good is pull the pile down with excavator than level off easier and don't have the dirt pile falling on the undercarriage
His clipboard says don't do it. Some of the ARMY dozers have backward facing rippers on the blade
Put 300 ton of that type and size of rock along a road ditch that the road was going to fail into, this past week we’ve been paying 21.50 a ton so if you can get it to Ohio we can use it. Love your videos and keep up the great content. P.S I also restore antique John Deere tractors in my spare time
Jeff, you’re a legend 🤘
The dozers are meant to push very hard forward and backblade lightly backwards.
You have to remember the guy telling guys not to do it has employees who half of them probably don't give a damn about the equipment they are operating.
He may have seen guys back blading in rock and I imagine if you hooked a solid rock back blading backwards you could rip the bolts out, stretch or break them.
I think a good operator with common sense in dirt can back blade with no problems. There are a lot of operators without common sense though.
I used to do a lot of fire road dozing with a D6C 10k and The trick I learned was to keep a full blade of dirt and I could make a really smooth road. Every once in a while I would back blade in small spots if the road had been messed up bad already or if I had to pull dirt back in from the sides.
yup your correct, so instead of telling the idots the bolts will break why not just explain why they don't want you to back blade just yet, and then give them instances where they can and how to do it......things that make you go hmmm
@Jpaydirt Yes, that would have made more sense.. I love your channel, your work ethic, and your mechanical abilities.
Be safe around all that big heavy stuff, it's unforgiving when something goes wrong.
“These machines are designed to push they are not designed to pull” well shit now we gotta take all the rippers and winches to the scrap yard, park the pull scrapers, and hope if we get stuck there’s something else around for a pull. Oh and someone better let Cat know, the operator instructions used to contain how to properly back blade. If they’d hire operators instead of cowboys they wouldn’t have to worry about those 4 precision bolts.
But he had a hard hat and a hi vis vest on. He must of known what he's talking about!!!
Great video thanks for sharing was that ground covered by a glacier in the past maybe and that’s why the ground is the way it was
Common sense isn’t very common anymore Jeff…. Keep the vidjyas comin ..
I have never run a d9 but I can say I have never torn the blade off any dozer I did run and I have run them about every direction you can think of.
Thats one he'll of a strong chain to pull that wabco out and off the ground . The 336 is a beast
Love the old iron doing a very hard days work, great machinery well serviced. But please straighten up the left hand headlight on the D9 ? If I lived in the USA I would have come and done it ! I am a little far away Adelaide SA.
Never in my lie have I seen a piece of equipment break because of backblading. 😂😂😂Jeff for the win!
Yeah, I watched (a bit) of that back blade video and thought, what the! Keep up the good work Mr Paydirt.
What's the float position on the blade control for then?
EXACTLY!
Jeff - you’re not the only one who back blades. Why else would there be a “Float” position on your blade control - hmmm?
so when you slide into the water you put it into float so you don't sink LOL
@@Jpaydirt My homeboy Larry used to have a Terex (Hanomag) dozer that could have used that feature. Before he got it some kids drove it into a pond.
Thanks for the show Jeff
in the end ITS YOUR DOZER !!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know lots of operators 50 plus years owner operators they all BACK BLADED !!!!!!!!!!!!! ME TOO!
You can't butter your toast up to the edge without a little backblade, just don't do it all day long.
Dang Mr Paydirt, is back blading Mr Griffin approved? 😅😅😅😅😮
Jeff, your problem is you are not wearing a white hard hat and fluorescent yellow vest. If you did you would be so much smarter. 🙄
i have back bladed for 40 years never had a problem
excavators make excellent units to pull heavy equip out of a n mud hole we used a Komatsu 300 to unstick a D8L one time on a job
The real men have never been good enough to do finish work!!
Had a old dozer hand tell me once if the blade was made to drag backwards they would have put on the back of the cat ,as i was dragging the blade backward on a road for log trucks to get over ,lol
#backblade funny how many dozers in our area had “backup rippers” ? Ever heard of em? Well I have never seen a blade pulled off by backup rippers. No it makes more sense to spin the dozer around and push right? Spend another three hours? 😂
Lol Jay you and I know! Those that do it right always back blade at the end ! Makes your work look nicer and more professional! I was taught that's how you finish! Cause who in their right mind wants to see track marks at the end when your done?
It was a great test!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
I've never once seen those bolts break from back dragging, it's not like you're dragging 10 yards of dirt.
The first big mine I worked at had 769B dump trucks then moved up to these little 50 ton Wabcos. The last place I worked ran 797 Cats. Dump trucks sure have come a long way.
As for backblading...NEVER done it myself😉🙃😄😁😆😅🤣. It is frowned upon in machinery world over here, but sometimes the need arises. NO ONE EVER DOES IT THOUGH, or even sees it done, unless some fun can be had with the guilty.😂
The Frank comment got me laughing, thanks. Needed that after this week.
Shawn Willsey has some good YT geology vids local tyou. Interesting.
Some real Red/Green philosophy right there folks. Back blade away guys.
I had a comment, got to reading the others and forgot what I had to say. Back blading is a touchy subject, apparently.
I have a d6 and a Case 850 and I blade my grandfather and my dad back blade with their machine 45 50 years ago
Jeff on know your busier the heck , but that D7 you have with a Beals brush blade could sort out alot of rock, actually have done it before with pretty good results, mightbto add a couple of teeth if needed, those old brush blade are laying around the country not used mush anymore,don't remember if that D7 was a C frame or push arms on blade, Beals blade pin to a C frame
Great video 👍The reason the guy says don't back blade it would mean his dumb cousin would be out of a job and he would have to find him another stupid job to do 😂😂😂😂
Maybe brother in law
I gotta say probably again...i do like the sound of an old D9G at work.
Jeff the great salt lake flooded Idaho, Washington and Oregon several times. I can't remember what page it was on but in the book "fires,faults and floods" it showed the snake going across Oregon in two spots and shows its current path. Sorta like the Columbia up above bakes lake just to the south of grand coulee.. we have a spot east of walla walla that you can see over 50 layers of silt from the Missoula floods along the walla walla river...
Why did the Indians call it the bitter root valley
I think you mean Lake Bonneville?
jeff i sent ya a video link about the repeated floods from the lake that once dominated most of northern utah the remains are of course the salt lake and the salt flats it makes giant ripples in the land around the snake river region even up north in pokie
I don’t believe god had chains on the tailgate when he dumped the rock out there
Backblading! How else can you sharpen up the Cutting edge! DUH..
Back blading once again JEFF WINS!!!!
Why does it seem like every piece of heavy equipment has a broken window?
Is replacement glass super expensive?
We don’t look thru them anyway …. We go by the feels ,,
I saw that video a while back, I don't think my 350 deere has bolts, so I'm all set!
Great footage!
Thank you very much!
Amen and Aaaaaamen!! To the back blading. The Mines sack blokes if they catch them, they reckon the same nonsense as that bloke, as well as they're worried about wearing the cutting edge bolts. For cryin out loud, how else are you meant to level out in a tight spot doing boxes etc if you can't?
Jeff what do you think those rocks when I look at them right away? I think of the Flintstones and what their houses are made of that rock reminds me of the Flintstones😂
Good if you expect a big rain
What are u guys doing burying rock that u dug up?
Bet you have trouble drilling water wells up there.
I’m amazed that I’ve gotten away with back blading with D-8’s and D-10’s all these 50 years and haven’t broken a pile of trunnion bolts. Guess I’m just plain lucky.
That back blading angers people lol 😆
Only the liberal woke crowd
damn wish i had all that rock here, could use it around my pond.
Since rock is so pervasive in Idaho, maybe you ought to consider buying a rock crusher n supply gravel to customers! Just an idea!
we have natural pit run gravel everywhere so nobody wants crushed lava as it's so abrasive
Love that intro
ever considered renting a screener you could process the rock out of the dirt at a pretty high rate
Someone is always got something to say...
If you're going to bust off those bolts you're doing it wrong. I reckon you could lift the whole machine by those 4 bolts.(wouldn't stand under it at the time....)
What city is this?
Hi Geoff is farm land expensive were you are as it seems a lot of expense to clear ground were we live in the UK it's around £8500 English pounds per acre
Good clean ground is 12 thousand/acre
Wheres your GPS thingys? I think they fell off when you where back-bladin.
Opinions and a holes everyone’s got one. Most spew one from the other.🤣
Why move the rock to another spill site? Wouldn't a local aggregate company want such hard rock for their usage?
only thing was I was told about back blading was don,t be agresive when doing it
back in a day a TD20 brought me all this way....
Use that new rock rake to pull him .😂
I'll say one thing. After all the rocks are gone that soil does look pretty good. Not good old black Midwest topsoil, but it looks good halfway across the Country
Is that Killdozer? I love that machine
Jeff, call Gary Johnson ,A-G-E Corporation. He has D9G parts for sale.
I will have to be careful next week not to pull he blade off😮😮
Sht. I back dragged (Back-Blade) all the time when I ran machines......Never hurt anything........
Glaciers Jeff that’s your answer. Rivers create gravel and gravel comes from rock.
there was a lot of events, volcanoes , water, and yes glaciers, it just don't make no sense Everett
@@Jpaydirt loved your response to back blading , outa curiosity does the 9 have a float position on the blade lift. I know the loaders and traxcavators as we called them over here in Scotland had them but I only ever ran a D4 for a couple of days about 45 years ago and I can’t remember. LOL
@@ilkacheel Yes it has float, I called morgan corp and they said not to use it unless I fall into the water then activate FLOAT and I won't sink
@@Jpaydirt 😂😂😂Well I do know that engaging float ain’t gonna do no no good while in a forward gear. Do you think I should buy some Morgan stock, they do look after there equipment.
Refresh my old mind,,, Where do I go for Merch??
Jpaydirt.com
What type of rock is that? Seems like someone would be interested in crushing that if it was cost effective instead of burying it.
Lava
He hit grade
Put a septic tank in don't fill it at least half full of water along a river and see what happens
Go Jeff!
Maybe prehistoric advanced civilization s made the gravel with tnt
You are so right Geoff real contractor always back blade that dude wouldn't have a clue.