This was one of my favorites. Great performances but the back story of the businessman who is mortgaged to the hilt and isnt really as rich as everyone thinks he is and the disappearing coin collection. It keeps your attention.
For those that want to know what happened The woman at the end killed him for the coins that belonged to her family However, the rich guy never actually had the coins. He lied to raise his percieved value. So when the woman saw the coins in the magazine articles she tried to get them back but killed the guy "holding" them
Well, as soon as I heard that they had a child, I knew that was the murderer. That we had already met her was no surprise. It's usually the first person that they talk to that doesn't seem to have any connection to the murder.
Did the mom sell the coins? She said if they were on the ground she wouldn’t pick them up so I’m guessing she didn’t care about them, but because they were important to her dad Judith wanted them back?
@@electricrainbowskull . I got the impression that after WW2 the family had nothing proving they owned the coins, hence why the husband 'spent years' writing letters to the bank. Meanwhile the wife traumatised by what happened wanted to leave everything behind start a new life.
I was so sure it was the rich guy because of the lies he told the police, and whenever the police made a new discovery in the case, it kept coming back to him.
These days? You know how much worse crime used to be in the 50s? The older generations might have gone to church more, but either their values where in the floor or they where just that much more desperate and used to violence
From the scene, you see a car coming that pulls in maybe twenty or so feet behind them. My guess is they saw it, decided they were too far into the street and backed up.
You only get away with that once and Agatha Christie beat everyone to it. Every solution that is a trope today, she came up with: everyone did it, the ones who couldn’t possibly have done it did it, the one accused of it actually did it, covering up the reason for one murder by committing a bunch of others, the one murdered actually did it, the detective investigating actually did it. What a brilliant woman.
Now to the episode. It starts the same place as the video, with the murder of a coin dealer. They find a few things missing, but the big item is a set of about 40 rare coins that the dealer was holding for Richard Peterson, a rich businessman. As their investigation proceeds, they begin to suspect Peterson, but they also find that no one has ever actually seen the coin collection. Every time someone wanted to view them, the coins were “out”; being appraised, inspected by a bank, whatever. Jaime finds that her bank had actually loaned Peterson money without seeing the coins, because he was a good customer.
Anyway, I don’t think Peterson went on trial, but they move off him as a suspect, and focus on Judith (Isadore’s daughter, played by Karen Allen), and when they find the glass shards in her apartment, they arrest her. McCoy is still not clear why she killed the coin dealer; they don’t find the missing coins in her apartment, and IIRC, she admits to the murder, but she keeps insisting the coins were not in the safe. Jamie and McCoy finally put it together that the collection that Peterson claimed had never existed. When Jamie visited Judith’s mother, the old lady gave her the catalog for the auction where Isadore had bought the coins, some 6 decades past. When they compare Peterson’s insurance list to the catalog, they find that every coin he had claimed was listed in that catalog. As McCoy points out to Peterson, the odds of all those coins being reunited in the same collection 60+ years later would be a billion-to-one. Peterson then admits he found an old auction catalog at the library, which turns out to be the same catalog the DAs now had, and used that as the basis for his collection. His friend the coin dealer helped him pull off the scheme. This is why Judith thinks he has the coins, because they are the exact same ones her father had bought. When Peterson admitted that it was all a scam, she completely breaks down, realizing she killed a man for nothing. They arrest Peterson for fraud, but they don’t say what Judith is charged with. The episode ends with Schiff wondering whose property the Swiss are safeguarding now as they yodel their way to the bank (or something).
Note that over the last two decades the issue of the Swiss, and many others holding the property of war survivors and refusing to return it has become a major international scandal. Some of the the more notable artwork has been returned, but there still is billions of dollars in cash & property that is being withheld because no one can prove ownership.
Strange, my 3rd part was deleted. Reposting... Anyway, I don’t think Peterson went on trial, but they move off him as a suspect, and focus on Judith (Isadore’s daughter, played by Karen Allen), and when they find the glass shards in her apartment, they arrest her. McCoy is still not clear why she killed the coin dealer; they don’t find the missing coins in her apartment, and IIRC, she admits to the murder, but she keeps insisting the coins were not in the safe. Jamie and McCoy finally put it together that the collection that Peterson claimed had never existed. When Jamie visited Judith’s mother, the old lady gave her the catalog for the auction where Isadore had bought the coins, some 6 decades past. When they compare Peterson’s insurance list to the catalog, they find that every coin he had claimed was listed in that catalog. As McCoy points out to Peterson, the odds of all those coins being reunited in the same collection 60+ years later would be a billion-to-one. Peterson then admits he found an old auction catalog at the library, which turns out to be the same catalog the DAs now had, and used that as the basis for his collection. His friend the coin dealer helped him pull off the scheme. This is why Judith thinks he has the coins, because they are the exact same ones her father had bought. When Peterson admitted that it was all a scam, she completely breaks down, realizing she killed a man for nothing. They arrest Peterson for fraud, but they don’t say what Judith is charged with. The episode ends with Schiff wondering whose property the Swiss are safeguarding now as they yodel their way to the bank (or something).
Actually when they refer to Athenians they probably mean Silver Owls, which were produced in large numbers. They go for a couple hundred a pop at auction. The Corinthians are a bit pricier, assuming he means the Pegasus staters (and I know of no other notable Corinthians in the Stater denomination) at generally 2-4k, but still not unreasonable for a normal person to acquire a small but aesthetic collection over the course of several years. Ancient coins are actually more accessible than most people think if youre not shooting for the top shelf.
In the show, they actually never had the coins. They just lied and took loans us in the coins they never had. It worked because of a Swiss bank and stuff stolen by Nazis and not being traceable. The woman thought the old man had the coins so she killed him (we don’t learn what happened or if it was an accident or a fight, or motive or anything ). The friend knew she was there when he found the dead collector but to cover up the fraud he decided to not tell anyone about her. He gets five years in a cushy white collar jail. She gets eight to twenty five in a harsher place. The Swiss bank gets off free.
As someone who loves Chinese food joints but whos stomach four hours later absolutely does not, these detectives must have guts of iron to have it every day.
I immediately suspect the rich guy who had his coins in Campbell’s safe. I smell setup. He didn’t do the job himself, obviously, but the robber was told what to take so it looked like it wasn’t done by a coin expert. The collector gets the insurance money and his coins: win-win ! That’s my theory… but I was wrong.
I wanna watch one Law and Order where people exercises their right to refuse searches and to remain silent. It'll be 15min long including commercials. 😂
This was one of my favorites. Great performances but the back story of the businessman who is mortgaged to the hilt and isnt really as rich as everyone thinks he is and the disappearing coin collection. It keeps your attention.
Remind you of anyone?
For those that want to know what happened
The woman at the end killed him for the coins that belonged to her family
However, the rich guy never actually had the coins. He lied to raise his percieved value. So when the woman saw the coins in the magazine articles she tried to get them back but killed the guy "holding" them
Well, as soon as I heard that they had a child, I knew that was the murderer. That we had already met her was no surprise. It's usually the first person that they talk to that doesn't seem to have any connection to the murder.
Did the mom sell the coins? She said if they were on the ground she wouldn’t pick them up so I’m guessing she didn’t care about them, but because they were important to her dad Judith wanted them back?
@@electricrainbowskull . I got the impression that after WW2 the family had nothing proving they owned the coins, hence why the husband 'spent years' writing letters to the bank. Meanwhile the wife traumatised by what happened wanted to leave everything behind start a new life.
@@Rumkitty2000And I knew as soon as I saw Karen Allen that she was to blame. (Looking for the most famous guest star tends to work.)
She was gonna give them to Indy so he could put them in a museum
Ah the Briscoe and Curtis era
2nd best after Briscoe and Green!
@@kaze987 Third best, Briscoe and Logan was the best detective combo.
and thats why anton chigurh always checked the soles of his shoes before he left
I was so sure it was the rich guy because of the lies he told the police, and whenever the police made a new discovery in the case, it kept coming back to him.
3:07- Nice reaction shot. He's like, "are you f%&*ing serious?"
I almost threw my cup of tea to this very scene too lmaooo
Seriously we need the older episodes online!! Id sign up to that streaming service in heartbeat!
The rich guy is based on Bruce Mcnall. Even looks like him.
What's that weird jump cut at 3:06? Did we need to jump to his reaction camera or something? lol
No, just bad editing.
The moment Karen Allen appeared, I knew who the murderer must have been!
Who? The American pie dude?
I had no idea that marrian from raiders of the lost ark was in this
The ending of this episode is fantastic. I have never forgotten it 😀after all these years.
Oh, Marion, you had to go and get yourself arrested.
Woman from 3:01 is Scotty Smalls’ mom from The Sandlot. “You’re killing me Smalls” 😂
Also Marion from Raiders of the Lost Ark
2:25
Is that Finch from American Pie?
yes
Yea. His first real gig iirc
9:03 “Detectives Briscoe and Curtis…always knew (at some point) you’d come (knocking again on) my door…”
Lenny never meant to hurt her. But she was a child. She was in love. It was wrong and he knew it.
These days, people will literally steal anything if they think they can make a profit.
These days? You know how much worse crime used to be in the 50s? The older generations might have gone to church more, but either their values where in the floor or they where just that much more desperate and used to violence
Nothing was stolen in this episode.
"If they were at my feet, I wouldn't bend down to pick them up".
After everything she went through, she was just thankful to be alive.
"Survivor" Season 7, episode 4
I thought that was Gordon Ramsey in the thumbnail lol
6:51 Great line!
Hello law and order
2:45 Marion!!!
Edit: Marion why!?
Why are the people at 7:56 walking back in the middle of street?
From the scene, you see a car coming that pulls in maybe twenty or so feet behind them. My guess is they saw it, decided they were too far into the street and backed up.
Wow, Karen Allen!!
They all did it.
(That would make me partially right...)
You only get away with that once and Agatha Christie beat everyone to it. Every solution that is a trope today, she came up with: everyone did it, the ones who couldn’t possibly have done it did it, the one accused of it actually did it, covering up the reason for one murder by committing a bunch of others, the one murdered actually did it, the detective investigating actually did it. What a brilliant woman.
I never thought I'd meet another who appreciated the queen of crime as much as me in 2024!
Can anyone post spoilers
Now to the episode. It starts the same place as the video, with the murder of a coin dealer. They find a few things missing, but the big item is a set of about 40 rare coins that the dealer was holding for Richard Peterson, a rich businessman. As their investigation proceeds, they begin to suspect Peterson, but they also find that no one has ever actually seen the coin collection. Every time someone wanted to view them, the coins were “out”; being appraised, inspected by a bank, whatever. Jaime finds that her bank had actually loaned Peterson money without seeing the coins, because he was a good customer.
Anyway, I don’t think Peterson went on trial, but they move off him as a suspect, and focus on Judith (Isadore’s daughter, played by Karen Allen), and when they find the glass shards in her apartment, they arrest her. McCoy is still not clear why she killed the coin dealer; they don’t find the missing coins in her apartment, and IIRC, she admits to the murder, but she keeps insisting the coins were not in the safe.
Jamie and McCoy finally put it together that the collection that Peterson claimed had never existed. When Jamie visited Judith’s mother, the old lady gave her the catalog for the auction where Isadore had bought the coins, some 6 decades past. When they compare Peterson’s insurance list to the catalog, they find that every coin he had claimed was listed in that catalog. As McCoy points out to Peterson, the odds of all those coins being reunited in the same collection 60+ years later would be a billion-to-one. Peterson then admits he found an old auction catalog at the library, which turns out to be the same catalog the DAs now had, and used that as the basis for his collection. His friend the coin dealer helped him pull off the scheme. This is why Judith thinks he has the coins, because they are the exact same ones her father had bought. When Peterson admitted that it was all a scam, she completely breaks down, realizing she killed a man for nothing.
They arrest Peterson for fraud, but they don’t say what Judith is charged with. The episode ends with Schiff wondering whose property the Swiss are safeguarding now as they yodel their way to the bank (or something).
Note that over the last two decades the issue of the Swiss, and many others holding the property of war survivors and refusing to return it has become a major international scandal. Some of the the more notable artwork has been returned, but there still is billions of dollars in cash & property that is being withheld because no one can prove ownership.
Strange, my 3rd part was deleted. Reposting...
Anyway, I don’t think Peterson went on trial, but they move off him as a suspect, and focus on Judith (Isadore’s daughter, played by Karen Allen), and when they find the glass shards in her apartment, they arrest her. McCoy is still not clear why she killed the coin dealer; they don’t find the missing coins in her apartment, and IIRC, she admits to the murder, but she keeps insisting the coins were not in the safe.
Jamie and McCoy finally put it together that the collection that Peterson claimed had never existed. When Jamie visited Judith’s mother, the old lady gave her the catalog for the auction where Isadore had bought the coins, some 6 decades past. When they compare Peterson’s insurance list to the catalog, they find that every coin he had claimed was listed in that catalog. As McCoy points out to Peterson, the odds of all those coins being reunited in the same collection 60+ years later would be a billion-to-one. Peterson then admits he found an old auction catalog at the library, which turns out to be the same catalog the DAs now had, and used that as the basis for his collection. His friend the coin dealer helped him pull off the scheme. This is why Judith thinks he has the coins, because they are the exact same ones her father had bought. When Peterson admitted that it was all a scam, she completely breaks down, realizing she killed a man for nothing.
They arrest Peterson for fraud, but they don’t say what Judith is charged with. The episode ends with Schiff wondering whose property the Swiss are safeguarding now as they yodel their way to the bank (or something).
Wow never been this early to a video
Isn't that shitbreak?
Indeed it is.
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Well, they can't get Richardson for murder but maybe they can still charge him with having no neck.
Is that Margot Kidder?
Karen Allen. Indiana Jones’ girlfriend, not Superman’s. I always confused them.
@@billcook4768I confused her with Brooke Adams.
Penny is still worth 1 cent quarters still worth 25 cents lol people who think change is worth more then change
Shitbreak
2:50
Marion Ravenwood!!!!
Funny that she's in an episode with old coins and she was in Indiana Jones, in the possession a coinlike medallion.
The second I saw the woman from Indiana Jones I knew it was her.
Rare-coins dealer victim of a common type of crime
What
Actually, it was a completely unusual crime, since it had nothing to do with a robbery.
Just realized 3:01 the woman is Indiana jones wife or Mary
Karen Allen
Affirmative, it's Marion
Karen Allen! I've always loved her. One of my favorite movies is Starman, she was one of the main stars.
She was also the girlfriend of one of the frat brothers in Animal House.
Indy would be very disappointed.
Man I feel poor listening to the items in this clip 😂😂
Actually when they refer to Athenians they probably mean Silver Owls, which were produced in large numbers. They go for a couple hundred a pop at auction. The Corinthians are a bit pricier, assuming he means the Pegasus staters (and I know of no other notable Corinthians in the Stater denomination) at generally 2-4k, but still not unreasonable for a normal person to acquire a small but aesthetic collection over the course of several years. Ancient coins are actually more accessible than most people think if youre not shooting for the top shelf.
7:52 these people walking backwards for some reason
They’re in the middle of the road, probably misjudged the car who did a right turn
Maybe he wanted to complete e his collection so bad that he would kill for it like junkies for drugs
In the show, they actually never had the coins. They just lied and took loans us in the coins they never had. It worked because of a Swiss bank and stuff stolen by Nazis and not being traceable. The woman thought the old man had the coins so she killed him (we don’t learn what happened or if it was an accident or a fight, or motive or anything ). The friend knew she was there when he found the dead collector but to cover up the fraud he decided to not tell anyone about her.
He gets five years in a cushy white collar jail. She gets eight to twenty five in a harsher place. The Swiss bank gets off free.
As someone who loves Chinese food joints but whos stomach four hours later absolutely does not, these detectives must have guts of iron to have it every day.
Yoooo
Wasn’t that guy in charge of jury security in another case with the mob? Lol.
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Yes, L&O often reused actors.
2:50 -- Karen Allen!
I immediately suspect the rich guy who had his coins in Campbell’s safe. I smell setup. He didn’t do the job himself, obviously, but the robber was told what to take so it looked like it wasn’t done by a coin expert. The collector gets the insurance money and his coins: win-win ! That’s my theory… but I was wrong.
I wanna watch one Law and Order where people exercises their right to refuse searches and to remain silent. It'll be 15min long including commercials. 😂
😂
it reflects reality. people struggle to shut their mouths
The guy who plays Peterson did this role amazing
5:57
as soon as i saw "Marion" i knew she was guilty asf
Isn't this guy with the Homage magazine the same guy who got into trouble in another episode about some irregularities with some bank loans??
Possibly, L&O reused actors on multiple occasions.
2:50 Karen Allen!! :D