Jordan B Peterson Debate Reflection Atheist & Saboor Speaker's corner
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Jordan your clothes are on fire!
- What do you mean "Your"?
- What do you mean "clothes"?
- What do you mean "are"?
- What do you mean "on"?
- What do you mean "fire"?
Onlooker: Call 911!
I chuckled 😂
Well, what you mean by "call" first please?
Tony has got good manners, sincere Allah knows best May Allah guide him to Islam
Ameen
Don't think this guy is being sincere. Sorry but Peterson was ducking and diving, slithering and sliding all over the place. I wonder why he's ignoring the obvious 🤔
💀They have the same mindset, they both love to duck, dive and slither around questions, cause what do you mean "do" and what do you mean "you"
@@aishax01 I agree he is quite similar in that sense. I thought maybe this guy was genuine.
What "obvious" thing is he ignoring?
@@markorbit4752 refer to my original comment 🙄
@@paksallion your original comment doesn't say what "obvious" fact he's ignoring either
I wish Tony was my mate; what a great guy! :)
Peterson has an agenda and this discussion is worthless for dawah. It may actually do opposite
I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
Oh, come on! JP dived and ducked all the religious questions. It was like trying to catch a fart with a hair net. He knows well that if he comes out professing an association with any faith, his entourage will falter, and his bank account will take a hit. He preaches honesty and decency, but his own agenda is clearly more nefarious. The video he put out addressing all Muslims and the Abrahams accords should be proof enough. Why any Muslims still think that JP will embrace Islam is beyond me
This guy talks absolute nonsense, he never has a consistent point and comes to speakers corner literally just for the sake of it.
He really is peculiar fellow
@Jalil Abdurahim I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
If you have to define every single word comes out of your mouth you eventually go through all the dictionary words so you be stuck defining the definition of definition till you run out of words 😂
😅😅 it's called nit picking
I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
Toni to me is the smartest of all non-Muslims I see at speakers corner
I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
lets argue for the sake of argue and try to use complicated wards that we can argue more about and how to define them. 🤯
in simple wards lets chase our tails in the park. it feels nice. 🤓
all they are saying can't be implemented and they never use it in their real life.
Post-moderism is the paradigm that tries to transcend the "modern" paradigm. When in modernity the West struggles with religion (Christianity), with its concept of or the existence of God, that's seen as fictitious; science (materialism) vs God (spiritualism).
But with only materialism they realised they cannot get happiness and fulfilment in life, but they still cannot accept God as the spiritual anchor or guidance.
So simply put post-modernism is self-help spiritualism. That's why they go big with Eastern tradition e.g Buddhism, Hinduism,.. but still without their deities; hence you have these Neo-Buddism or Hinduism, New age, etc...
Then what JBP doing is trying to sneak-in his Christianity into post-modernism, hence where he ended up confusing himself.
Yes. I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
Suboor put some hair polish into his hairline this week. Good man. TAKBIR!!!
May God guide you to the right path Tony but try to be open-minded because all this philosophy is not very helping you .
so philosophy is not good? unless he becomes Muslim?
@@markorbit4752 I wouldn’t say that, the idea is that philosophy as a whole diverts you from the main purpose. It can have it’s uses such Imam Ghazali who was a pioneer in philosophy and Christians use his arguments today against Atheists. The issue I would say is the greater purpose, for Tony he says the utility in religion but not so much the principles that are put in place. Shamsi I believe said it best that Islam continues to grow despite all the people against it and people like Shamsi convert so many people without philosophy, why is that? I believe that Islam is the truth so maybe biased but it’s simple to understand, one creator, worship him alone, the wisdom in his rules set in place, while philosophy in some aspects is helpful to see it as a necessity makes the religion incomplete, whereas with Islam we believe you do not need it at all.
@@xSamiboi have you listened to shamsi? Philosophy is his thing.all Muslim preachers use philosophy in arguments
@@xSamiboi the idea that a creator should be worshipped doesn't strike you as strange because of indoctrination. You have no evidence that our universe was created by one creator as opposed to two or three working together
@@markorbit4752 I have and his logic and sound reasoning isn’t diving in too deep as a lot of people do. He preaches direct frok Quran and Sunnah, Sh Uthman converted a woman in Mexico without philosophy at all. Some aspects of it which are maybe in line such as logic and sound reasoning are ok but diving too deep just causes unnecessary problems, here for example the wall the keep hitting is definition of words and concepts which isn’t entirely productive at all.
Forget Peterson hes just a fool
to heavy for me lol
They know they don't have the evidence for Christianity so this is why they duck and dive questions they know the truth and will only believe in tings with evidence but when it comes to the bible they don't have sufficient evidence so start goung around bushes with faith and emotionally just fools may ALLAH quide these kinda ppl
Philosify is so useless. What nonsense, no wonder its haram.
it is haram?
@@markorbit4752 in general yes. We don't need to study Aristotle to know about Allah.
@@afgissa7471 well what if our universe was created by two gods working together as opposed to one god?
@zor ton you mean to tell me that many humans can work together to build a beautiful mercedes but two gods can't work together to create a universe?
@@markorbit4752 I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
I like Tony but the problem with him is that he cannot even affirm the existence of Truth let alone define it. This makes his scepticism as invalid as anything he doubts. This makes everything he and atheists say, futile and worthless until and unless they accept the Al Haqq, which is Allah, the (Sole arbitrator of Objectivity and Meaning in reality), in which case, they're not atheists anymore.
Hi Tony here. With respect, I DID affirm the 'existence' of truth and defined it as : "Truth optimizes hermeneutics in accordance with your fitrah."
That's pretty concrete and succinct (8 words).
So what's your definition?
Asalamualikum, I’ve not watched all of video yet. I think it’s best to adopt Br Shamsi’s approach when dealing with Tony. Using big words like ‘epistemology’ exct… aren’t gonna do anything. Br Suboor please don’t entertain Tony by using his approach. Just go by the basic Islamic principles and if he doesn’t like it then who cares
وشهد شاهد من أهله......Mo hijab is something else off camera,,,,,and this disbeliever like Hijab.........very scary 😨
what do u mean
@@AyanlehAhmed-rp1bs what I meant is exactly what I said....read it one more time.....I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.
the prophet uncle died as a kaffer and he liked the prophet so ?
and by the way its called "اهلها" not "أهله"
@@MrAhmedUA go to school and learn about your religion 😒 stop wasting your time at SC......don't compare yourself to the prophet..اين انت من الملوك يا صعلوكة........او...صعلوك.....
@@truthisbitter3704 why be defensive. Am I not your brother In Islam . I said explain if u can’t say so .