M4 iPad Pro - Why Nobody Should Be Excited About The M4
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- In this video we discuss the new M4 iPad Pros that just came out on May 7th. We also discuss why all of us should not be too excited about the new iPads and especially the M4 version with all the power it now has for Ai tasks. We touch on all the iPad's new features including the M4 iPad Pro, M2 iPad Air, and even the base iPad. We discuss the direction iPads are moving toward overall with new Ai features coming. Watch this video to find out why I think the M4 iPad will actually be bad for the people it was made for.
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I replaced my friends with AI friends, and I couldn't be happier.
Funny, yeah I guess that could be true in some cases but overall it's not a great world to live in I would think.
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Yes!
It is too expensive to purchase iPad M4 meanwhile M1 and M2 still work very well in next 3 or 4 years.
Yeah or new 10th Gen standard iPad base is best for most users who are not power users.
Yea. Its good enough for Netflix even ipad 1st gen is good enough, if you dont do gaming or high demand task.
@@craigneidel facts! I have been strictly iPad Pro since it released and I am thinking about grabbing a 10th gen for the first time since iPad 2
People who buy the M4 buy it for the screen. It's not too expensive with that screen.
My m1 ipad pro is about to die
Have you found out any information about the screen itself, will it have DC Dimming? Or will it have PWM flickering? How is it on the eyes, some Oleds can give PWM sensitivity issues
Thanks for watching. I don't have that info yet but know it's a dual layer OLED up to 1600 nits. I'll post once I know more.
Bravo! I’ve watched a slew of videos describing Apple’s new iPads and you are the first reviewer I’ve seen who is cautioning against the rush to enable iPads and every other computer with AI capabilities! You’re right when you say that 95% of users don’t need AI taking over their devices and Apple is wrong to push AI on them. I just talked a friend out of buying a new iPad Pro because he can hardly use the iPAD 9 he currently owns! He’s worried about not being “future proof” when he has no idea of what’s really coming! I know many tech geeks will disagree with me about AI, but what I’m trying to say is that Apple needs to listen to what users WANT instead of confusing them with different options that don’t necessarily meet what they NEED!
Thanks for watching the channel and thanks for the post. I just fear that we all want these devices but if the Ai tech is so good that we are no longer needed we won't have a need for them. It's a funny thing to think about. In any case everything moves forward so we will need to see how things play out.
Very informative video and you are so honest. ❤️
Thank you so much! Thanks for watching the channel.
As an owner of a 2018 iPad pro 12.9.
I was excited to upgrade but after that keynote I’m now trying to decide which is the better buy among getting my battery replaced, the new M2 iPad Air 13” or the M2 iPad Pro 12.9”
I would get the air.
With the iPad Air you would miss out on a very noticeable upgrade in screen quality (mini LED). Plus, you would lose 120hz ProMotion, Face ID, Thunderbolt USB-C and four speaker stereo sound. Get the M2 Pro.
It all depends on what you need and use. Comes down to budget also.
Your making very good points
Thanks for watching the channel.
I’m kind of surprised that there’s less fanfare for the real star of the show: OLED DISPLAY FINALLY.
Yes the screen should be nice for sure
I compared my iphone 15 pro oled display n my m1 12.9 ipad’s mini led ….and i couldnt notice any difference when compare side by side… i mean the tech is great but for consumers theres no notociable diff at least in big ipad
Btw m very much obsessed with displays…i went to apple website n many more to check max brightness and it seems both are same..miniled and oled..1000 for whole screen n sdr and 1600 peak
@@MonkeyMannMacho i am a bot...lol....same phone bro... theres a trick to make mini led more like oled ( more vibrant)... turn on color filters and choose second last one..i think its blue/yellow and dial the slider as per your need...also turn on true tone ...u r welcome...check side by side..its 99% same...u can also search on google"how to make iphone display more vivid"
@@MonkeyMannMacho yes there's bloom-in..but thats in very dark content... i mostly watch youtube..never notice bloomin while watching yt
I have my iPad mini 5 still rocking
Use what works for sure and save the money.
Great video chief!
Keep on speaking the truth!
If I buy the M1 iPad Pro will it hold up for a long time? In terms of using Final Cut Pro etc?
Thanks. Videos like this ruffle a few feathers but it's great to get discussions going. Thanks for watching.
No problem, but u didn’t answer my question regarding the M1 iPad Pro.
It's hard to answer since I'm not sure what type of updates are coming to Final Cut Pro and I use a Mac for that. But, I would guess it would for a number of years. I just don't know for sure.
@@craigneidel Thanks chief!
Makes no sense I spend so much & there’s not much of a difference.
The M4 will be faster for sure but it all depends on so many factors like exactly the edits you are doing it's hard to know for sure. Maybe try it and return it if it isn't performing for you.
Well, Craig, There goes the Apple Sponsorship, their layers will be contacting you soon 😆 Thanks for posting this video
Funny. They actually owe me as I have sold more computers for them then they know.
@@craigneidel 😆
Good to hear from you Craig, hope you're doing well!
M4 is already INSANE! Just the base! And I believe it's because of the snap dragon elite, and it's to compete!
Hello. It could be due to that. I do think it's for ai in the next ios update on the iPad but either way it's fast.
As I heard it, the M3 wasn't quite ready in time for the "Scary Fast" event, so we got a somewhat crippled one.
That's why it wasn't "head and shoulders" better that the M2 as we had been promised.
This M4 is the M3 we shoulda gotten.
The thin iPad Pro means it's much lighter than the original iPad Pro was which I always thought was the main thing wrong with it. The size was great but it was just too heavy. Now it's not anymore.
I've been waiting for an M5 or M6 before I upgrade from my M1, but this M4 has turned my head.
I'm waiting to see the hands-on reviews with this new SOC CPU.
Yes, I get it that the M4 is really the reconfigured 3 nm chip. This video was to get some discussion on what the end game is with these Ai products and all the people who are in the creative field. Do they know what's coming?
The M3 was more than ready at the release, the software updates issue was because of that.. there was a significant amount of M3 laptop with about 2-3months old OS, so the update what worked on the newer OS, failed to work on the olders (so on those which was in a warehouse for months before their release..)
The M3 used only a custom made 3nm technology (N3B), and it's a more expensive like the current standard techonlogy in M4 (N3E), so they didn't even planed to make a full refresh with that from the begining (like M3 had only 18 TOPS AI capability, but even the iPhone 15 had 35 TOPS, so they never planed to use the M3 in any device with Siri, because the Siri response speed difference is significant with the halved AI capability in M3)
Thanks for posting. The video is to get the discussions going and it did that for sure.
I pre ordered the new m4 ipad pro with 1tb. I been using the m1 iPad Pro with 1tb for the past 2 years between 6 to 12 hours a day for photo editing raw files from my sony a7riv and a7rv. And its starting to slow down and overheat. I dont know if its the charging port or the battery is spent. But its time for a new one. I prefer the ipad pro over my mac studio for photo editing because it’s so simple to use the touchscreen compared to a mouse or trackpad. Do i care if the new m4 iPad Pro is thinner NOPE it’s getting a case put on it on day one. All this AI does nothing for me. But you know I never thought about all those photographers that post to stock photography websites that AI will ruin it for them. Great video I see your points but it’s time for me to upgrade
Yes, if you need a new one then now is the time. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I post hundreds of pro-Apple videos and this one wasn't about the product being bad but instead for designers to just think about how Ai is going to change what they do. Just a fun topic to explore.
I am excited for the M4 Ipad, oled panel better for photo editing. I am trading in from my A12x bionic ipad pro
Do you use it for a job now and if so what do you do?
AI is already replacing jobs in lots of industries. In the UK, customer service people are going to AI,and many finance jobs are gone. iPad Pros are way out of normal people’s budgets. Even MacBooks are getting too expensive for many students and average people. Good review of the situation. Thank you
Thanks.. yeah that is the fear for sure. Loss of jobs will be real and the ability to afford things will be less. It should be interesting.
I am very excited about iPad Pro M4.
That's fine... Expensive but if you get use out of it then no problem with that .
M4? How fast does the average user need to surf and word process?
Yes, I'm not sure if you watched the entire video but it's getting ready for Ai and I'm not sure that's going to be a great thing.
@@craigneidel We use AI at work, I use bits in illustrator and photoshop to speed up my workflow in certain areas, I've also been using firefly. Ai is a mixed bag, I prefer the human experience to be honest and sometimes feel AI is just fake and soulless. I guess it depends on your values at the end of the day.
Thanks and I agree to some degree but Ai keeps getting better and eventually people won't be able to tell the difference. It's using all the artists now to learn. But, we will wait and see what happens.
There IS a regular iPad …
Yep
Video takeaway: Apple is Skynet? On a serious note, what few tech reviewers are discussing is that there appear to be practical reasons for the M4. Apparently, the 3 nm process for the M3 chip is inefficient and costly. M4 uses a better process with a more efficient yield. Also, the chip has display controllers necessary for the new tandem OLED display. So AI is just a fraction of the reason for the new chip. Lastly, it’s a little ridiculous to expect a lot of discussion about AI and software at a hardware event. WW, where Apple ALWAYS discusses new software for its devices, is a month away. Releasing the M4 now allows Apple to provide a device for the public, not some dev kit, to test new software and potential AI features. Fingers crossed we get some major iPad OS updates though.
Yes, I know about the M3 and how they had to make this new chip as the M3 was really version A etc. But I just wanted to make the video to get the discussion going around how fast things will be changing and if Ai get's so good then what happens to all the people that trained it. Nothing about Skynet but a real question as many people in areas like Customer support and tech support are already losing jobs etc. Anyhow just a fun video to get some discussion going.
Craig, you are not crazy for thinking this way. Just look at Apple's own video about the iPad. These tech companies want to own the future, and thereby, us. We must not let that happen. This is a Paul Revere moment. Time to re-watch "2001," "The Matrix," "1984" or "Forbidden Planet." Take your pick of the sc-fi films. Science fiction writers saw this coming a long time ago. You don't need to be paranoid to worry about this, you need to be sane! Stunningly ironic that Apple, famous for its "1984" commercial, is now threatening, along with the rest of the tech industry, to actually become Big Brother, while posing as our liberator. Literally crushing everything that gets in its way. Watch that video before it gets taken down! It shows what amounts to murder. What minds could have thought of it? Tim Cook, disown it!
Thanks for watching. Yeah I agree with you and do feel that many people just go along with things until it's too late. I mean people see Ai now as harmless when it auto completes an email for them. But this is actually a company and computer determining what the email says and you simply click yes. If you move this to a large scale with so many more things then Ai looks pretty scary for sure. Thanks again.
I would buy the m4 IPad Pro because of the display alone I think the dual stacked oled technology will be good for tv’s as well
Agreed. Dual stacked display would be great for a computer monitor. Next Apple 27"!
What do you use it for?
yes, for a monitor it could work good.
@@craigneidel I personally ordered it and intend to use it 100% for media consumption while traveling and sometimes at home. But this clearly is a waste of a good processor, so here's hope that Apple will surprise us next month with a capable iPadOS, so I can use it as a more portable alternative to the 16" MBP.
@@no_way4165 last question. Why not just get the new air if just for media consumption. Or even the $349 iPad?
The I-Pad 13” I-Pad Air seems like a better choice for $799 with the M-2 chip. I don’t need an I-Pad Pro, so the $1299 price for just OLED seems high. The new Air & Pro screens are 13” but the older 2017 I-pad Pro’s were 12.9 and are actually larger than the new 13” IPad
Yeah that might be the sweet spot but the 10th Gen for $349 is tempting.
Mixed feelings on AI. If I had an old iPad with a dying battery or cracked screen I would be more excited about the new iPad’s, but honestly, my 11” M2 iPad Pro is still doing the trick.
Yes, I might get the base model iPad for the $349 for my channel but honestly my 9th gen is just fine.
I am a Pilot and thanks for backing us man!! I think AI is just better as a assistant!
Yeah I want a person for sure because they have families and want to get home. I also want best trained pilots and not major airlines picking people on other factors to just meet numbers on paper. Thanks for posting and watching.
Without the stock photographs or video clips or Music Samples or all the artistic work that is done by actual artists AI art would not exist AI NEEDS actual people to create art so that it can recreate and use what artists have already created.
Eventually won't it learn from itself like we do. I think that is the final goal is to have the Ai get better by learning what people like. Thanks for watching.
The entire point of this video seems predicated on Apple finally using the term “AI” - but the thing is, nothing they talked about is the kind of generative AI that you’re concerned about. It’s all the exact kind of stuff they’ve spoken about for years. The only difference is that they’ve previously shied away from the term, instead using the more-accurate term “Machine Learning.” So, all the AI talk you heard here was just Machine Learning, which Apple has been doing since at least 2011.
I’d also like to correct some points on your fears for stock photographers and the like… Most stock image companies do not allow AI-generated images. And even for the ones that do (like Shutterstock), a lot of fields that utilize stock image sites won’t or can’t use such images. For example: I’m a graphic designer, making on-screen graphics for TV shows and movies. Every graphic I make is run by a legal clearance department to approve or deny. And they will never approve AI generated content because it can’t be copyrighted (meaning the studio can’t claim ownership of it) and they can’t verify where they underlying training data comes from, meaning that they open themselves up to a lawsuit from an artist who’s work was used to train the AI to create a derivative image. So that’s a 100% no-go. In short, my job is safe.
And I’m sure similar situations apply to your other examples, as well.
We’ll have to wait for iOS18 to see what Apple’s full goals are with their implementation of AI, but I don’t see a reality where they are this careful getting into the space while seeing all the pitfalls and criticisms and push for generative images and music… especially since this latest announcement shows that they know exactly who their key demo is (and always has been). I expect that they’ll use it to make Siri more intelligent and capable (hopefully), learning users’ habits and device usage and applying it in a more efficient and useful way, and possibly things like summarizing emails.
Thanks for your long post and I appreciate you watching. I hear you on the Stock companies but the point I'm making is that they will all go out of business. The Ai companies will sell a subscription and people will get their photos from there at a very low cost. So it's not out of the question there could be a large issue there. Also, iOS 18 is just the start and I think all the Ai companies know they need to tread lightly at the start and release changes at a pace that most people won't pick up on. It's to there advantage to slow roll it but in a few years we will all be wondering what happened I think.
Yo you hit it on the nail………….scary actually, people just don’t see it coming
Yeah I think most don't believe it can happen.
The issue with this video is that it should’ve been titled “Why nobody should be excited about AI”. M4 itself is a great chip and according to recent geekbench metrics, the fastest consumer chip in existence. That’s a tremendous feat of engineering. So your arguments against the chip should’ve basically been how it has surplus power that most people don’t need or how IpadOS is incapable of using that power. Instead your basic argument throughout the video is how AI will eliminate creative jobs and thus this particular company’s powerful chip is bad. Today you don’t even need a powerful chip to use AI to its full potential as all compute is done remotely. All you need is a browser and if you still wanna blame a chip maker, blame Nvidia.
The idea is my thought that apple released the M4 on iPad and not m3 to get ready for new iOS release with all the ai features coming. That is a true statement based on my research. So yes the chip is good but my statement on what it's meant to do is accurate. I tend to be on apples side in my 650 videos but here big tech is going to be an issue with jobs in my opinion and ai will be the focus of this release.
You make an excellent point! 😮😕
Thanks for watching.
This is along the lines of what I thought when I heard about the M4 AI stuff... As a person that wanted to buy an iPad and perhaps try for a small career in digital painting on it, the AI stuff mid 2022 totally killed my motivation.
We will see how it plays out but I do think it will affect a number of jobs for sure. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see how Ai will add jobs.
You are absolutely right. But no one stop to think about that.👍😬 Oh but all those silicone Valley people will be in trouble once the AI takes over their jobs on rewriting these apps for apple (without mistakes as they do) Tim Cook will be the only employee in the Valley...lol 😁
Thanks for watching. Yeah, I think nobody will care until it takes there job but we will see.
Great conversation! The technology to replace humans is already here. But I want to believe that we won't be so easily replaced. Plus, it has to be profitable to someone in order to be adopted by everyone. We'll see! Great video!
Thanks for posting. I do think the profits will be huge but only for the few companies that will control all this. Yes, we will need to wait and see but I don't have a positive feeling on it.
Good analysis.
Thanks
I'm not as excited about the M4 as much as I am for the OLED display. The elephant in the room is that these things are still primarily going to be used for media creation and consumption. The average person will be using this to surf the internet, watch 4K+HDR content, and read books. $2,000 is a lot for that. But if people have the cash to throw down for it, more power to 'em. While I'll likely do a bit of gaming on it as well, my primary gaming machine is powered by a 4090 and my alternative is usually a Nintendo Switch or my Steam Deck.
Yes they are expensive unless you are making money from them. The oled screens will be great but I think most won't need that upgrade.
Interesting video for anyone who’s been in a coma for the last 6 to 12 months and hasn’t been reading about or thinking about trends in AI at Apple and dozens of other companies
I would argue many people don't know what's going on. It's about 2-3 years and many of their jobs will be completely gone.
I think that you ask some valid questions about AI. But, as I look at the progression of computers over the years, concerns about job loss have been largely wrong. For the most part, it has allowed us to do our jobs better. And it has expanded what is expected (better quality work product).
I look back to when the Mac came around with desktop publishing. People would mix many fonts and weird colors together. Of course then templates were developed to get us along a better design. AI will add smarts to these templates. But it will still be the creative and trained individual that will make best use of the tools.
I have more concerns about other areas of AI that for the most part will live on these big server farms that will teach me how to think with some sort of bias.
My concern is that Ai is going to move at a speed we have not seen before and only a few large corporations are going to control most of it. I mean even if just Siri gets better do to Ai (obviously it won't stop there), it will be the programmers of the Ai who are controlling the outcomes to some extend. Yes, Ai is supposed to learn and adjust, but if you don't think these companies will have placed their own spin on things then we haven't been watching them before. This is just a video to get the conversation started what could happen. I think many jobs are going away and how society and the government deals with that is going to be interesting for sure. I do think it's different this time because of how quickly jobs like graphic arts, customer service, tech support, auditors, actuaries, accounting, programmers, etc. (fill in many more here) will be replaced by something cheaper and smarter. It's going to shake things up but I'm not yet 100% sure how.
@@craigneidel I am not completely disagreeing with you. If I didn’t appreciate the more cynical view that you present many times I wouldn’t watch your channel. I am less worried than you. But, do have concerns.
I addressed the creative angle in my first reply. I have made some money in the creative arts as a side hustle. My main money maker has been making customer care software. I’m retired now, but we looked at doing large data models to improve customer care. Years ago, it was just to expensive.
But, I think in many areas, the change will be a bit slower than most expect. But, it will be quick. There will be failures where the AI just doesn’t give good answers and this will slow down the adoption. I know the other day I clicked on a couple of the AI buttons that Facebook is giving me. The answers were disappointing. Not really answers at all. Duhhh, this what people are so excited about?
Anyway, thanks!
Thanks again for watching the channel and the thoughtful posts.
I know you are absolutely right about what you are seeing for the future. 🙏 for the honesty. I, like you, just enjoy and love the beauty of the Apple products. Right now, I have the mini, and the the IPad Air from 2022 (I use this for streaming mostly.). I am going to be upgrading to the bigger 13 inch because I use it almost exclusively for streaming. But I could care less about the generation of the chip or OLED. Also, for me, OLED is just toooo bright. Also, I even prefer the colors on the regular displays. Because for my eyes, the fact that they are a bit lighter, makes them, “crisper” in some ways.
So yea, everything depends on your true needs. But also, it’s very good to keep in mind what Apple is doing so that we don’t get sucked into the Apple universe of greed, getting things that you don’t really need, but just want to “keep up with the Joneses”.
Again, thank you for your honesty.
Thanks for the post and for watching. Yes for me I only have so much stuff due to my channel but for many years I would buy much older Apple systems to save money. No need for the fastest if you can get everything done with the 3rd fastest is the way I see it. I agree with you on Oled and I really can't tell too much of a difference for what I do so it's not a big deal. I know some people love it but I don't really watch a ton of movies on my computers since I have a TV for that. Anyhow thanks again.
I’m lost, what does your video have to do with the M4? It’s more focused on AI generalization. New IPads, MacBook, phones, of course they are going to have the next gen chips. This one needed the M4 to drive the OLED stack dual display at the same time. But again, your argument has nothing to do with the M4 as I am almost certain any AI apple comes out with or might announce next month will probably still run on the M1 and forward.
Apple is launching the M4 on the iPad for the Ai that will be coming out at WWDC. It's just a tie in that the people most excited about the iPad are the ones the new technology could replace. Just something to thing about and nothing more then a video to get some conversation started about that.
@@craigneidel I’m with you on the conversation part. AI is a mixed bag. Can it, is it, or will it be replacing skills that some humans have and take jobs? It depends on how far we let it go I guess. It was just the video title using the M4 iPad for clicks as the conversation starter. Will apple release features that they claim the M4 only can do, probably if history repeats itself. Will the advanced features include AI for the M4 only, most likely but some of it I think will also trickle down to the whole M series chips. But I guess we will have to wait and see until next month.
Yeah, it will be just about everywhere soon but either way tech moves forward for sure and it was about trying to get the exact people excited about the new ipads thinking about the future is all.
The M4 iPad pro is great. Guess you needed to come up with some angle for the creation of content for your channel.
Did you ever watch my other 650 videos. It's ok to talk about why we need an m4 in an iPad. It's for ai coming in the next ios release.
I'm speaking as someone with a disability. I have always been a great writer, but artificial intelligence has improved my writing. I'm more confident expressing my ideas, and my writing has come to life on a greater level. With that said, I agree with you. I would hate seeing the human touch die. We have to teach people where and when to deploy artificial intelligence. Everything comes with a balancing act. I wanted to replace my iPad from 2020, but I don't know what excites me. It's basically the same, other than the chip. If they had incorporated the macOS experience and M4, mine would have already been ordered.
Thanks for posting. The video was made to get the discussion started etc. and it has done that. There is going to be both pros and cons with Ai but in certain areas I think the cons could be high. Either way it's something we need to get ready for.
@@craigneidel I work in the assistive technology field, and I have repeatedly said AI isn't going away just because we're unfortunate with some of its effects. We have been down this path with Amazon and the way we shop.
Thanks for posting and I agree it isn't going away.
Grimm video
Just getting some discussions going. Watch some of my other videos as they are upbeat. I think it's fair to have one like this from time to time.
You’re speaking Facts..
It’s what many of us been thinking a while now.
Ai definitely here to stay and replace all Artists.
Thanks for watching and your feedback. I also feel that way since we are just at the start of everything and it's already getting so good. I'm not sure people realize how fast it will be changing.
Good view point
Thanks for watching entire video.
Ai doesn’t matter to me. I just want a 2 TB OLED 13 inch iPad Pro to store all my iTunes Movies on
Yeah but I'm afraid that is how most people feel until it hits hard. What's your age if you don't mind me asking.
hello greetings from a banana Republic El Salvador... I think the M4 and the IA will be released in the IOS18...!
Maybe.. it's coming
Craig, perhaps AI will put Apple designers out of business as well. I watched today a company here in the UK that is making AI tractors there much lighter and can work 24 hours a day if the conditions are OK. I would love the M4 iPad Pro 13" but I only want it for the display I have an M1 Air but I just want a larger screen as my Eyes get worse as I get older. love your views.
Thanks. They now have the 13 inch M2 air which is larger. That might be good.
That’s sort of how the world has went in the last couple decades right? It goes in cycles. For example it went from vinyl to CD to mp3 to steaming but you see people going back to vinyl.
Yes, and no but I get what you are saying. Ai is different as it could replace 60% or more of people's jobs. Like auditors, programmers, customer service reps, tech support reps, radiologists, and so much more.
I get what you mean. Right now AI can’t do the thing that makes us humans - the decision making, judgements, instinct. What scares me is the alpha go thing, when the machines start being aware and talk to each other.
@@craigneidel we have a local hospital that’s already saying they’re gonna let it start making diagnosis for patients of course they threw out the side. Of course a doctor will be monitoring the decisions. Yeah they really one doctor monitor a whole hospital of decisions. No, I think it has a place that it could oversee and draw a question, maybe catch a wrong medicine being given I think that’s as far as they should take this AI stuff too. It’s just a double check to see if it sees something and then people look at it one more time anything else is gonna end bad.
Maybe but I'm more scared of the jobs it will take initially as I don't think Governments and companies are ready for that.
I’m excited to be working on Zbrush and rendering it in Octane. Like a pro was meant to be. If you’re just consuming content then no, you shouldn’t get one.
Yes, but how about the rest of the video where I talk about Ai replacing all the creative people? What is your thoughts.
You aren't wrong and huge changes are coming to all of society. Corporations might become less powerful as smaller organisations and individuals have far greater ability. I expect people will still be at the centre of directing AI but a single person will be expected to do the work of what used to be many skilled professionals and the time of production will be massively reduced. This kind of change due to technology is nothing new but I suspect this will be more profound and rapid than in the past and it has at times been very fast in the past.
I agree with that statement and thanks for watching the channel. I'm just worried about how it will affect jobs and society since it could happen quicker then people think.
They said these technologies would empower the individual, but they have actually empowered the giant corporations. What's more, now we know that these companies are just as self-centered as the old capitalists. They broke laws, lied to us, stole our privacy, and effectively told us to get used to it, there is only one possible future, the one they just happen to be making. Baloney. And they think of themselves as "progressive!" Tell that to the bottom 80 percent of the people who are worse off than before. Tell that to the teen girls who are addicted to their iPhones. To all of us, living in this broken society, where we are at war with each other, and nothing is affordable. But that's OK, because Apple is solving a pressing problem: our iPads were just too darned thick. We should buy the new one because it exists, add the old one to the garbage pile...you can't repair it, Apple made sure of that. We have to "agree" to Apple's way, because that's just how freedom works!
I think you have it right but I still think Apple makes good products. It's the large corporations that will be winners of Ai, and the small guys losers. Look at what Amazon has done to small business and magnify that 10,000 percent.
The 13” iPad Pro with a 1TB storage, Apple Pencil Pro, and Apple Magic Keyboard will set you back $2,477.
On the other hand, the 14" MacBook Pro with an M3 Pro chip (11 CPUs and 14 GPUs), 18GB of RAM, and a 1TB SSD comes in at $2,199. Oh fo sho, it's not an iPad, but personally, I'd go for the 14" MBP M3 Pro any time of day. Although in reality I won’t because I already own 16” MBP M3 Pro. Just saying! 🤭
Recently acquired base M3 Pro MBP 14 for me. Full disclosure, I have an iPad mini 6 as a companion piece, and I was hoping for an update to that device.
I would go with the MBP also for sure.
So, your complaints are against a company doing what they can to be the best they can and your complaints are against AI in general. What does that have to do with the iPad M4?
The M4 is being put in the iPad for the new ai features coming out in next ios release. They are connected as no iPad needs an m4 without ai. If you watch my channel I love apple products and I'm just generating conversations around big tech and ai
You need to watch Max Tech so you truly can understand why the M4 was released in the new iPads.
I had a video on this in the works already.
So, I shouldn't be excited because the new model is too light, to bright, and too advanced. Got it. Thanks,
No, that wasn't the point of the video. It's just that we all need to think about how Ai will affect the people using these products.
your right!!!!!!
Thanks for watching
@@craigneidel you welcome.. you can do the same thing with a 6th gen ,that you can do with the m4.
Yeah, for the most part although I know a few people do use iPads to their full potential. Just not the majority of people I would guess.
I am waiting for the M5
Could be a while but if your happy with what you have then wait for sure.
A.I. is still A.I. and it's still not ready for prime time. I've seen videos that are supposed to have been made using A.I. and they're still not up to snuff.
A.I. is right where it's always been, five years or more in our future.
Maybe but I tried the Adobe product and it's getting better every day. I think we are 2-3 years out of a total Ai take-over with creative work but I could be wrong.
We’ve seen this movie before (like a ton of times, and more to come). We can protest change, but change comes anyway. Even if Apple balked at our protestations,some other tech giant or even a startup (later bought by a tech giant) will forge ahead. The biggest reason is money (it’s always money). Every change bringing positives for some, will bring negatives for others. Whining won’t really make a difference. Unfortunately, the only path forward is to adapt and/or change. Try and understand the impact of what’s coming and plan a course change for ourselves to attemp to survive and maybe thrive. When the printing press came out, what happened to the scribes trying to make a living cranking out one book or scroll every 2 years? Take a guess. You all see what’s coming with AI. You can’t whine that you didn’t see it coming. Now is the time to start your own journey making the changes you need to take to survive and maybe come out better than those around you. Good luck!
Yes for sure but this I feel is a bit different because of the speed the change will happen. I just used the example of designers or creative people but this is already affecting people who are in customer service, programming, tech support, and eventually it will hit auditors , law clerks, actuaries, and the list goes on. Ai is a bit different since we don't have the time to adjust like we did with some other events.
Constructive feedback: Don't ask me 4-6 times to keep watching your video only for at 6:40 to be starting to tell me where it's going. Tell me at the beginning and if I like where you're going I'll keep watching.
My other piece of feedback is just that I'm not sure your argument is well connected to your conclusion (and the title of this video). Your complaint I think is not with Apple (at least not today) it's with companies like Open AI, Google (with Gemini), Meta, Midjourney, Stable Diffusion, Adobe, etc. The iPad isn't going to be responsible for the disappearance of jobs and neither will the Mac lineup. Some of the machines might fall into the profesional space but you couldn't possibly affect industries at scale with these devices. They are too general purpose for that. Which is why only a small portion of the silicon is dedicated to these tasks. Your hardware gripes are with NVIDIA and AMD who are building the GPUs and Server chips that are all purpose built for these tasks and get linked up in the thousands to run and train these models. I realize you doing a video titled, "NVIDIA Blackwell - Why Nobody Should be Excited About The B200" isn't as sexy but if the argument in this video is the one you want to make then a video about NVIDIA's hardware is the video you should have made.
I have done so many videos on Apple and their "good products" so no worries. Most of my channel is about that. This is not a grip with NVIDIA or AMD since all companies will be guilty to race towards the use of Ai for everything. Apple already stated it's going to be a massive part of their iOS update coming next month and therefore all tech companies will be guilty eventually. That is the tie in and the reason in my opinion why they went with the M4 and not M3. We all know the M3 is way more then enough power for an iPad. The video is just cover my thoughts on it and not so much make this perfectly packaged video like a TV production. It's RUclips and my videos are based on my true feelings so I don't tend to scrip everything I am going to say. Therefore just pick what you like and if you don't like the videos that is totally fine. That's what makes the world go around.
@@craigneidel Apple is simply enabling the ability for their devices to run software locally so user activities are on device and not trackable which is consistent with their privacy strategy. This is I think again an argument against your conclusion. The OS will have AI features and likely signficant improvements to your engagement with Siri but none of the things Apple is enabling is going to take peoples jobs.
Your points in your comments and video seem like a version of "fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine" where basically anything connected to "AI" is simply bad, no matter what it is or how small. There's simply no nuance. I don't know how you'll be able to stave off the doom and gloom around Apple products if this is how you feel about the first one getting more of a focus on AI/ML functions (technically it's been here since the M1).
The feedback was constructive and meant to be helpful. I'm not suggesting things should be a perfectly packaged TV show. If that was the standard then I'd have had much harsher criticsm and a lot more to say but clearly that's not what I did. You seem like you're a few tweaks from a better all around presentation. Take it for what it's worth. This is your corner of the internet do what you want.
Thanks for the posts and for watching. That is why I like to make videos.
AI reminds me of the Industrial age. Embrace it and find what it can do for you. Humans greatness is the ability to adapt.
Yes maybe. But ai is different so we will see how it ends up. I think this will be a larger shake up.
I mean you sell your old model for 750/800 and pay 500.00 upgrade worth it
The video is not about the iPad so much as the push to Ai and replacing the creators.
So true - I am a video creator online - every day someone is saying they can edit my videos better - I do not agree -
Thanks for your post and for watching.
@Outloud444, you are probably correct. I haven’t seen any of your work, but the majority of people who think technology makes them the best are usually wrong. Although occasionally the tech will draw out previously unknown genius.
I agree ! Are human hands and imaginations going to be taken out the content creation equation. There is no thought process to pushing a button.
Yeah, it could happen quickly and we will need to watch on how it progresses in the next few years. Thanks for watching.
Honestly, I rather have the AI processing on the device than somewhere in the cloud.
On device is better but I know Apple will need some off-site processing eventually. This is just the start of things in my opinion but yes that is better.
IPS screen ipad is the ideal choice? No thanks. If the OLED screen is as good as it has been touted, that is enough to get excited about on it's own. After all, the screen is what you actually interact with whether it be for creative purposes or media content. If the M4 still had the mini LED screen then yes I would not be getting excited just for the performance boost.
I wasn't arguing that the device was bad. I'm not sure if you watched the entire video. It's more about the future of Ai coming but in either case thanks for watching the channel and the post.
Today, I use the Samsung S24 plus with 12 gigs of ram and 512 gigs of storage - to do all my video editing - I have a Dell 13 inch computer that I never use - I hate Apple final cut pro
If it works for you then that is all you need. That's totally fine.
AI will be star at WWDC otherwise one can agree with you. Maybe people will start valuing things that are hand made more again.
Yes, they will hit Ai hard at that event and we can start to see the plans. It will start off with some more simple things like Siri, emails, writing letters, etc.
What about the display? I have the iPad Pro from 2020 w/ magic keyboard - been using it for 4 years and LOVE it. Would not hesitate to upgrade for the new display.
Ehh... don't get hung up on AI. I listened to Meta's ex-chief of AI and even he admitted to a 10 year lag for actual legit video and photos generated by AI. Don't believe the hype.
Maybe but I have been trying it and with photography and items like that it's already 85% there in just a short 2 years. Give it another 2-3 and it's going to have many jobs. Thanks for watching.
They are not gonna tell you the truth. They’re currently using creators using the product learning how they stroke the pen, learning how they see things learning what’s considered beautiful versus not desirable. They need the user to teach the machine. They’re not gonna tell you we’re gonna replace you in two years and then you stop using it because you realize you’re teaching it , the course is gonna tell you it’s 20-30 years down the road
I dont see how the thinner ipad will perform better...it's going to overheat. It won't defy physics. Plus the battery life is the same as the previous model. There's nothing worth upgrading for, the screen is already great on existing models, who cares about OLED that much. I'm gonna buy an M2 pro. I have the apple pencil 2 and dont want to buy a new pencil. The next ipad will be the one to buy cause they will fix design mistakes
I dont agree with your opinion on AI replacing artists work. Art, music, etc doesnt exist without the human who creates it. Even if they are using AI to create it, still the artist must think of a prompt, etc.
I mean coming up with a text to photo isn't that difficult so that would not be art. We will need to see how it all plays out but interesting to think about for sure.
I do think they could have gone too thin but we will need to see if we will have another bend gate on our hands. Thank for watching the channel.
Collecting dust? …. Please send me to me what you aren’t using 😊
Nice, they are older and for the channel. But still collecting dust.
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Yep... But WWDC will be the pitch!
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Yes for sure
It was interesting seeing Dorothea Lange's famous photo Migrant Mother, Nipomo, California, 1936 reconstructed by AI. Thankfully AI has no soul, and the original work still outshines it due to the grit and experience of the photographer capturing that image in a hostile environment etc. As impressive as AI maybe its just glossy crap that lacks a true artistic eye. Soon there will be the M5 then M6 etc but good work comes from passion and talent as technology is just a tool. I dont think these Ipads are going to change the world, I wont be be rushing out to own one preferring my phone. As it can do the same job for my requirements.
Thanks for watching and I remember learning about this photo in school. I agree that the photo has no soul now, but many of the younger generation today wouldn't even know what that photo stands for. The world is changing and I'm not sure many people care as much as they used to and that has me a bit worried. Anyhow we will see how it plays out and I thought it would be an interesting topic. Thanks again.
Craig: here is how it plays out. First the tech helps people who are already working in the field. Then, it makes it possible to get "good enough" results with little investment of time, by buying something. An "automatic camera", say. Markets get flooded, wages decline, people give up. Here in a neighboring state, there used to be 30 photographers covering it for the leading newspaper, now, about 5 remain. They closed the newsroom. These were people I knew. I mention this because you brought up the example of Dorothea Lange. She actually had to go out into the world and meet people, and engage with them physically, full bandwidth. Meet their eyes, hear the sound of their voices, feel their pains. That's how she got that photograph. A friend, a female photojournalist, covered the US exit from Afghanistan, and stayed there afterwards, covering the story on the ground, at great risk. These tech execs who talk about "courage" do not know what that word means. Not making any case for film photography, if you look closely at that famous Lange picture, you will see it is actually out of focus! Cameras then were primitive, no one would ever go back to them. Still, some changes are momentous, like the atomic bomb, and probably AI. They said "move fast and break things." Break things, they did. When they realize what they broke, it may be too late to fix them. How things end...BTW, been using Macs since the Plus, not a hater. And Photoshop since Version 2.5. An early adopter, not wanting to hold onto a dead past at all. Just trying to make sure we actually have a future we can live in. Technology, like life, is a set of choices. You make it, you are responsible for it. There are consequences.
Thanks for the post. I don't think you are too far off. It's early but Ai is going to change things quickly. I just wanted to get the discussion started around that.
AI is happening no matter what and will be implemented into tech products by all companies. This will shape what products are needed then moving forward and where the trend is going. Eventually tablets wearables and Vision Pro products will eliminate current computers.
I agree it's coming no matter what. I do hate the fact that wearables could replace our hardware but we will need to see where it ends up I guess.
AI is for WWDC
Yeah but m4 chip is in the iPad for all the ai coming out soon
How long until we can’t say negative things about AI because AI will get its feelings hurt?
Soon. Ai might show up at your door soon enough. Funny
Why do I need to hire a secretary when I can learn to type myself.
Yes, but it's not just a secretary in the end. It will be all customer service reps, tech support, auditors, law clerks who lookup info, creative people, programmers, and the list goes on and on.
The M1 chip is better than the M3 chip - what video creators need is 34 gigs of ram and 1 terabyte of storage with that M4 chip -
Ok.
I personally view AI is like RUclips. Everyone thought it'll take over jobs from big media companies, but it allowed common folks to create careers out of RUclips. AI will create more jobs and allow more common folks to create works of art, videos, and programs. AI will level the playing field for those who doesn't have the time, skill, or money to create. The only thing separating what we could create is our imagination and nothing else. AI will increase productivity, so people will be able to spend more time with family while pushing the economy forward. AI will unlock drug discovery and treat diseases we never thought would be possible. AI will help doctors diagnose rare diseases. AI will make our roads safer with autonomous vehicles. AI could be our teacher: helping us find information faster, interpret information, and learn new skills. AI could improve customer service and improve globalization, such as breaking the language barrier.
That's a very positive view of it. I hope it turns out like that. But with large corporations making most of the calls I'm not 100 percent sure it will. In any case we all have opinions and that is good.
@@craigneidel I definitely think AI we’re just in very early stages of AI and see some job losses. But I believe when AI gets good enough one day, companies are able to increase productivity with less workers. Government is able to increase taxes while barely denting cooperate profits due to massive improvements in productivity as AI gets better and better, we might be able to use increase taxes for universal basic income. When AI gets better and better, human work will become less and less important and we’re able to shift more and more work to AI and robotics while taxes can be increased gradually for a more powerful universal basic income. Perhaps one day in the future, a 5 day work weeks might be a thing of the past with increase productivity of AI and robotics. AI is in the early disruptive phase, but soon we can see the benefits AI has to humanity
Thanks for posting but I think what you just described is the worst possible outcome. You are saying taxes increased and an universal basic income. That is basically Socialism or Communism where everybody works but pay is equal, and people that work hardest are not rewarded for their hard work and creativity. I don't think I want to live in a world like that so I hope it doesn't go that way. I see the benefits of making things more efficient but I don't want any more government involved with all this or that will turn out bad in my opinion as they are really bad at most things.
I get irritated when Messages corrects me or finishes my sentences, even when it's right, it's distracting.
I hear you on that. It frustrates me too.
No one gets “free” Apple products. All the other manufacturers you review were free and the companies probably paid something as well. That’s the product review business. Apple does neither. They have a small number of news, publications and social media outlets they loan out devices for review. You make your living discussing Apple products because people are interested in Apple products. Try doing that with Dell or HP. Like every other tech reviewer you make your living being paid or sponsored by other companies but your viewers show up for Apple content.
Yes, but I know a ton of Apple channels that get Apple products shipped to them before launch to review. It's a special list and you need to say the right things to be on that list. Yes, it would be nice but I make videos on both sides of the aisle so I won't be on that list anytime soon.
@@craigneidel EVERY company has early access for publications and influencers. But Apple does not give free products or SPONSOR anyone. Every other company does and that’s the difference. Being harsh to Apple will only cost a reviewer early access. Not sucking up to any other company will cost reviewers MONEY. It’s EASY to be dishonest about Apple, what are they gonna do, scratch your name off an early access list 99.9% of reviewers were never on in the first place?
@@sharonb.9128 I know as I live in that world. I also know that people on that list are hand picked by apple for very specific reasons. I'm not blaming apple just noting it.
@@craigneidel you’ve heard the saying “even bad publicity is good publicity”? To Apple, the worst thing outlets like the Verge or ifixit could do to an Apple product like the Apple Vision Pro or MacBook would be to IGNORE IT, not give it a bad review. So far, I’ve only noticed Apple permanently removing early access to individuals or companies that do not review or are give purposefully misleading or dishonest reviews, not negative ones.
@@sharonb.9128 Maybe.. either way it's a small club for sure. Thanks for watching the channel.
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Thanks for watching and the post.
You lost my sub with the droning on about AI. It's been talked to death.
Ok.. don't need to watch all the videos
just dont buy it... less headache... use ur hand to type and draw in the paper..
That's one option I guess. Nice
A chip in search of software. Real AI needs massive banks of GPUs like crypto and is done in the cloud. You can’t mine crypto to any worthwhile degree on a chip in a laptop, you need warehouses full of specialist machinery. The same is true of high end image generation via AI. Adobe and Apple aren’t even competitors in these markets. I pay more to AI companies monthly than I do to Adobe in a year. Creatives have been using it for a long time already. If you are a professional it enhances your work. Believe me what a professional AI person can create is light years ahead of consumer AI. There is absolutely going to be an industry ahead. Add to your arsenal.
Yeah this is just the start and it's already replacing jobs. Thanks for watching.
The game is already over..
Yeah it's pretty close to causing some real job loss in a ton of fields
Please be more economical with your words.
I like to talk I guess. My community knows that.
Weird video. Not sure what you want with this. It’s not about being negative. It is just a weird angle and sounds a bit conspiracy tbh.
Maybe but if Ai can take photos that never existed and Ai can design things, what happens to all the people who do that for a living. Not conspiracy as it's coming in a few years 100% for sure.
@@craigneidel some might lose their job. But some still keep their job. I like sports. The ultimate photo of a great moment will still be real I think. If Apple or any other company doesn’t improve their hardware they will do a bad job for their stakeholders. It’s just weird you rant about progress but on the other hand make videos to show all that. No offense. Will keep watching 🧑🏻💻
Yes, but I think over time the lose will be much greater then the gain. Anyhow just a way to get the conversation going.
Everything is already available without M4. Lame Creators are Fed
Not sure I understand what you are saying but thanks for watching.
Truth hurts Yes it is coming
It's coming soon.
Yeah apple is getting too effeminate and childish in colors. Need some maturity added to the selection. Time to look elsewhere.
I'm just not sure why it's always pastels now. Thanks for watching
List me at "i am not a creative".....if you cant justify it for everyones usage, then you arent in the clear to say why nobody needs ut.
Now i git the OG iPad Pro in 2015, upgraded in 2018, then 2021 and again now. As an artist i get so much usage out of my iPad Pros, and starting with my 2018 i discovered their trade in program. So combine a performance boost, the generous trade in, the money I make with my art over the years and i basically get a free better upgrade every time.
AI is a tool, not a replacement....if you are an artist the only reason you should fear AI is if you font bother to learn how to use it to speed up your workflow.. The basic peinciples of art go nowhere....so yeah, your argumant is invalid.
I have created 650 videos so I guess I'm creative. If you didn't watch entire video you didn't get real message of video.
@@craigneidel creating a video and creating a piece of art isn't the same things any more than lifting weights to sculpt your physique makes you good at sculpting with clay. I'm not trying to downplay your video count, that is impressive, but you cannot start to look at artistic creativity and the impact of AI if you don't understand the impact of understanding the fundamentals of art and the crossroads of modern day business and demand for faster and better. No one cares how you get there, all they care about what you produced on their dime and time.
@@vidsurfer0725 i get the situation as I have created websites and designed them for 15 years in an earlier job. Ai will soon mean that everybody can create art and maybe make a few small tweaks to it. I just think many artists and photographers aren't prepared for what's coming but just my opinion and I could be wrong. The purpose of the video is to start so dialogue.
@@craigneidel fair enough. I just feel that fearing progress gets people hung up on traditional vs unconventional, and before you know it that fear leaves people in the dust. I will worry about AI when it's hunting me through the corn fields, until then I will just embrace it like the tool it is. Fire can warm you and cook your food, or burn your house down on Thanksgiving, there are dangers everywhere and challenges. Years ago many jobs were lost to corporations moving manufacturing to China, yet we still import their goods and use them...
Thanks for the follow up. I realize that things in life emerge and move on. I have worked in a datacenter for 25 years now (part of the same company I designed for). I have seen may tech changes. But this seems different and the speed at which change will happen is much faster. I'm just not sure people have really thought about how fast this will happen and how to address it. Yes we lost many jobs to China but figured a way to use them today. But if something was to happen quickly, like them move on Taiwan, then things could fall apart quickly due to the speed of that change and I feel that Ai is on the same level especially since it will touch every aspect of the way we live. It's going to be happening to everything in the next 3 years. But I know there is no stopping it and people will need to adjust. Anyhow thanks for the conversation. We all have different opinions and that is fine.