The History of Super Punch-Out World Records
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UPDATE: When this video was made, the SPO community's understanding of the probabilities of different RNG events occurring was partially inaccurate. Most notably, the odds in getting low times on Narcis and Hoy were diminished by ~8 and ~3 times what they actually are. So, the odds in FatPotatoSeal's 2:27 paced run at the end is closer to 1/155,000 than 1/2,688,000 - still a really crazy pace, but not quite as mind-boggling as before. I'm sorry for any confusion, but at the time we were working with the best estimates we had available.
Thanks to the following people for help with research! Be sure to check their channels out:
zallard1 - www.twitch.tv/zallard1
Mysteryman95 - www.twitch.tv/mysteryman9512
Hootey - www.twitch.tv/hootey
FatPotatoSeal - www.twitch.tv/fatpotatoseal
And check out the other top runners too! You can find them here:
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Do you actually get ahold of the wr holders to talk to them
Thank you for the warning. Means a lot.
Good guy salt
thank you legend for uploading again
now make a way to get free bobux O_O
Was disappointed to not see Matt Turk dominate the early days of this as well
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
We just need to find the obscure board to which he posted his 2:29. Just because we haven't found the Turk yet, doesn't mean he doesn't exist!
I was surprised too
Tbf, Turk's era of dominance predates this console afaik.
Diamond Nic Batum wouldve dominated
The fact that in 50 minutes you can make me go from knowing nothing about a game to my heart sinking watching someone lose the perfect run blows my mind. Absolutely fantastic video as always.
i swear these bots...
Agreed though, I honestly got so pissed off watching seal get blueballed like that. The game giveth and the game taketh away
That’s what a cynical person might refer to as the reason for gatekeeping.
But for truly passionate video game fans, it reveals just how special interactive media can be in a je ne sais quoi type of way, as well as just further reinforces what an absurdity gatekeeping is to claim in any circumstance…
Summoning salt is a really special human being. Thank you for just existing
I was just thinking that😂 these videos are amazing
The fact that Zallard1 lost his dominance and has NOT as far as I know, broken a new record, after 5 AND A HALF YEARS of going unchallenged, is mindblowing to me. I should DEFINITELY do another run of this game. XD
So here’s what I learned: To get world record in Super Punch-Out, the opponent needs to stand still.
In regular Punch-Out too.
CBC v. dad
@@FGazi-qf1hp It even helps in real boxing.
@@FGazi-qf1hp"Regular Punch Out!!"
Do you mean Arcade Punch Out!! or Mike Tyson's Punch Out!!?
@David2073 Mike Tysons. Had no idea there was an arcade one. Thanks.
bro, the fact that Nick Bruiser doesn't ruin runs through luck, but just through sheer difficult execution is actually kinda cool. Even though it makes it so brutal when people lose to him, it just feels cool to me. The art/animation style for him definitely contributes to that though.
Also, this just cements in my mind that Zallard is one of the greatest gamers of all time. Right alongside Matt Turk.
he also does ruin runs through luck.
@@Ashley24306 that doesn't make any sense? no matter how good you are at the game, you can't stop nick from blocking your first punch in phase two, and you can't stop him from dodging the super after that either.
@@journey8692 thatd be rick, bud
@@jay1724 nick can block your first punch in phase 2, which would require you to land a super that is RANDOM.
But also Zallard is incredibly skilled. Not just anyone can do that even with the luck
Can we appreciate for a second the fact that there were basically no new strats, no newly found glitches, exploits or techniques, no new routes, no new ways to save an extra frame rule… just pure unadulterated skill, and grind versus the odds? this is one of the most straightforward history videos and yet it manages to hit just as hard. pun intended.
*ahem* _play on words_
Really it's unlike any other game new tricks are always used to break the barriers, which goes to show just how unique this game is in speedrunning
the fact that this game is such a luck based-/skill based game while also really messing with your mind when things do go well, is just crazy. That 1 in 2.6million run is insane. If you would go for 100 runs every hour of every day, it would probably still take many years to get a run like that. Its bizarre. I dont think that run will ever happen again
100 runs an hour, 16 hours per day, amounts to likely having to run every single day for over 5 years to see another shot like this...
@@WilhelmMarsson I wont post the full math unless people want to, but to reach a 95% chance of seeing this again, 8,052,527 more attempts are required. At your 1600 runs per day that equates to 5033 days, or just under 13yrs 10 months. For a 99% chance of that happening, it would take 21yrs 3months.
That ending was so incredibly emotional. Its like winning the lottery, only to lose your grip and drop the ticket over a railing...
2:18 through the final fight. The TAS is 2:09 IGT going into Nick. Nine seconds might sound like a lot, but in a run where RNG can kill you at literally any point in the second half, that's an incredible pace.
This was as close to perfection as we can reasonably expect given human reaction times and no known RNG manipulation. To lose a run like that would be the most heartbreaking thing I can imagine in speedrunning.
@K A D I E can both you bots please shut up?
@@ph03n1xm9 what? You don't like porn bots? What are you, a turnscale?
The saddest thing imo, is that he'll be remembered as "the guy who choked". Given the circumstances, i think it's fair to say that nearly everybody would have choked. But because the universe decided to give that guy THE god run, he's now cursed with being the guy who threw it away.
Sometimes luck is just a curse in disguise.
"He was going to do nobody else had done before. Become the first Super Punch Out single segment record holder, not named Zallard1. His name... Was Zallard2-- I mean Mysterman95."
I kept expecting Matt Turk to suddenly appear and snatch the record...
lol I thought the same
@@rolothomosky maybe zallard1 was matt turk all the way, since he was the only one actively playing the game till '19
Now he his Zallard1 and Matt Turk, he has WR in every punch-out category
@@rolothomoskysame, lol
i love how the game is all “wooo!!! you win!!!” as the camera zooms in on FPS’s reaction after losing a god run. That juxtaposition is brutal
It’s like the game is mocking him.
And just a reminder on what those odds for that god run were - 1 in 155,000.
In equation format, you get 155,000 by multiplying the numbers 1, 5, 4, 3, 6.25, 2, 6, 21.5277777778 and 1.6... *_IN THAT ORDER._*
To put those numbers after 1 into perspective, 5 is for Bob Charlie and his random dodges/blocks, 4 is for Dragon Chan and his kicks and slow/fast heals, 3 is for Masked Muscle and his dokugiri, 6.25 is for Mad Clown in general, 2 is for Super Macho Man and his 10 second knockout, 6 is for Narcis Prince and his high-8 second/low-9 second knockout, 21.5277777778 is for Hoy Quarlow in general and 1.6 is for Rick Bruiser's third phase.
It's so thematically fitting on a meta level that for most of the run you're facing all these crazy kooky characters as you mostly need luck to proceed, but right at the end you face the stoic Nick while you have to be just as stoic and pure execution.
Its like its intentional or something
The word you are looking for is poetic.
It's almost like game design exists :0 lol
@@NightTimeDay Because Game Developers are so famous for designing their game for Speedrunners?
@@mahmud7645 This game was based on the arcade games, did you know that? Arcade machines meant time investment, skill and a lot of coin for the average person to reach the game's end. Difficult games made for profitable machines and an individual sense of accomplishment/bragging rights if you could get the best of them. People would stop to watch if you got to the final opponent and, if you lost, that was it. So, when you went up against the final opponent, there was high pressure. A stoic mindset was required, and a stoic character to match just makes sense for the game design. It isn't designed for speed running, it was a design choice that made sense given the arcade machine foundations that this game worked off of. Nothing meta or incidental about it.
I was fully expecting Matt Turk to just jump in at the very end, end up with a 15 second run, not say anything and dip
I think everyone, a little bit, was expecting Matt Turk. He is inevitable.
@@tylersutton9518 i know I was
@Lotus never seen a bot with variances in their messages or a human being so desperate as to spam links in every comment
he's like the boogyman of knockout
Lmfao
The fact Zallard's final record was one he was frustrated with really bums me out.
Probably the reason he didn't play anymore
@@dagfinissocool he still plays
it bums meout how he spent so much time trying to get a sub 2:40 first but stopped and lost it when he was .37 seconds away
@@dochbert It does make sense. He had no rivals, essentially no competition which is crucial for people to keep pushing themselves. That's why all those people that came after him ended up making sub 40 seem somewhat trivial. They had each other to stay motivated - to compete.
I like how most punch-out speedrunning comes down to "Never stop beating the shit out of your opponent and hope they let you"
This sounds like good life advice right here.
@@donpcmartin it's just a new strategy
I love that your thumbnail for this is a reference to one of the most legendary footnotes in the history of a speedgame that I know of.
For those who don’t know, the thumbnail is a screen cap from one of Zallard’s many attempts, where for some reason, the game bugged out and turned Nick Bruiser green. This glitch, as far as I know, has never been seen before or since. It was a purely visual bug that didn’t affect the gameplay, and the run wasn’t anything special until it happened. But it was so jarring and strange that “Green Nick Bruiser” remained Zallard’s Twitch PFP for many years, and it certainly makes for an interesting footnote.
And there’s one more tidbit to it; during AGDQ 2014, Zallard performed a blindfolded run of Super Punch-Out. I’m a momentous and at the time unprecedented achievement, he actually completed the run. And if you look very closely, there is one brief moment lasting less than a second where, unseen by the blinded Zallard or the crowd watching from a distance… Nick Bruiser momentarily turned green again.
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Thanks for calling this out. Despite his record being beaten, he'll always be G.O.A.T to me for the blindfolded run.
Great comment thank you.
now that's what you call epic
it wasn't unseen tho, the guy on the left was very surprised when it happened
Back in the 90s, used to rent this from my local videostore. There was a guy a little older than me who worked certain days and asked me if I was good at the game. We eventually competed against each other for fastest times saved on the cart's Time Attack memory for about a year, lowering each other's times, not letting anyone else rent it. The best part of it all was us not telling each-other in person what new times we achieved and we would only find out when going into time attack mode to see the history. I made a new friend and from that day onward, every game and movie rental from that store was on the house. Thank You Super Punch-Out!
@@fnafatfreddybearpizza4541 good question
I read this to the tune of the Bojack Horseman outro
That is such a great story. Glad you got to share such a fun experience with someone!
This is the kind of story that just feels legendary. So awesome. The '90s were a great time.
how low did you get?
The way you slowly unveiled the characteristics of each boxer and the style used to defeat them was superb.
He is a master at that
My heart brakes for Fat Potato Seal and his once in a life time run. I am a giant fan of this video and am such a happy camper to see Zallard1 get so much time on this video because he is my favorite and best Punch Out player there is.
Not to hate or anything but is “brakes” for this correct?
Wouldn’t it be “breaks”?
@@crsixer4879 Broke
@@extremechimpout thanks for correcting me
@@crsixer4879 yeah, it would be breaks, not broke. You were correct
Love the addition of the timeline graph. Really cool way to see the WR’s change over time rather than just a list of times and dates
Yeah, big time. A great addition.
I hope to see it in every vid from now on
Would be even cooler if different runners had different colors (and maybe their pre-WR runs could show up at some point, to see how they had developed in the background)
Dudes been watching Jon Bois
@@bubbleking05 My exact thought. I even commented that this feels like a Chart Party episode
"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is Super Punch-Out."
- Jean-Mac Picard
10/10 great reference, no notes.
❤
I first saw Zallard at GDQ where he did a blindfolded Punch Out run. Completely blew my mind.
Probably the most iconic intro song on the internet. That first note always gives me a smile.
Reminds you of all the good things in life
Either this or game theory
The reason I think SummoningSalt is up there with the best content creators ever is that you can never predict what’s going to happen. He’ll show a god run, explain exactly how it can so easily fail, and then we see it succeed anyway. He’s mastered fake-out foreshadowing to such a degree that he can successfully tell the story he needs to tell without us ever being sure what will happen next. It’s genuinely incredible to watch, and it works so flawlessly for this style of content.
Right! (Sorry for bad eglish)
@@gdmkmrlxix632 It's ok ( Sorry for bad french )
@@gdmkmrlxix632 Don't worry! ( Sorry for worse England)
@@gigaju1462 What's happening in this thread? (Whoops, I just used too good of English)
@@gdmkmrlxix632 It's fine (Sorry for bad Gaelic)
I like the dots with the timeline visual, gives a real sense of how far the community has got. May I suggest coloring the dots based on the runner that achieved the record? Maybe matching their color in the leaderboard and with an indication to the side of who is who, I think it would add a lot to the narrative of the graph. In this case it would show inmediately how many records zallard1 has, showing a lot of orange dots in the early history.
WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HANDSOME girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest RUclipsr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear dig
@@Evilakuuuuu Yeah, but like in a separate plot lol
@@AxxLAfriku No one cares
Jon Bois set the standard for visualization of competitions. Imagine a Summoning Salt Jon Bois crossover.
Agreed. I think the chart just needed more to make it visually memorable.
When you introduced the runner whose goal was to become the first Super Punch-Out single segment world record holder not named Zallard1, I was really hoping it was Zallard2.
I swear, Salt just never bringing up the fact he has the PERFECT Mike Tyson WR is so damn humble, I love you Summoning Salt
Feels like Christmas whenever Summoning Salt uploads
yo whats up schaffrillas
Literally drop everything when the uploads come, it’s always a good watch.
This is Christmas baby! Everybody have a wonderful time the salt is falling from the sky!
Is thaaaaaa big manman didn't know he watched stuff
Odd place to mention this, but I have like 1 video on my channel and it honestly was inspired by you, makin it was a real joy to take my mind off the pandemic regulations at the time, so thanks for that
When the main theme slows down, you know it's serious business.
Also, I love the time graphic used here. Really helps visualize the progress over time.
Please rise for the speed running national anthem
o7
@@MichelleSleeper *We're Finally Landing starts to play*.
Yes! The graphic and editing of this video are phenomenal.
Or when the music cuts out completely, too
0:01 Introduction
1:30 Single Segment Explanation
1:56 The Game Being An RNG Gauntlet
2:45 Zallard's First Run
3:17 The 2 Fight Types
3:25 Gabby Jay
3:43 Super Meter
3:57 Dizzy Meter
4:30 Dizzy Frames
4:45 Buffer Strategies
5:36 Difficulty Increase
5:44 Aran Ryan
6:05 Other Nonrandom Fights
6:26 Random Fights
6:50 Dragon Chan Phase 1
7:06 Dragon Chan Phase 2
7:58 The Amount Of Random Fights
8:08 Zallard's 3:10.72
8:20 Zallard's Attempts
8:34 Zallard's Promising Run
8:43 Bob Charlie
9:41 Zallard's Bob & Chan
9:57 Zallard's Good Times
10:05 Hoy Quarlow
11:32 Zallard's Lucky Hoy
11:42 Zallard's 2:54.02 (11:57 ...wat)
12:00 Zallard's Break Time
12:30 Super Punch-Out!!: Return of Zallard
13:09 Zallard's Unlucky Hoy
13:29 Zallard's Further Attempts
14:04 February 27th 2014: Zallard's Great Run
14:45 Nick Bruiser
17:15 Zallard's Successful Phases
17:55 The First 2:49
18:24 Break Time Again
18:49 Zallard's Return
19:22 That Nick Ruined
20:09 How Much Time Was Saved
20:48 Mad Clown
21:59 Zallard Bringing The Run Back
22:15 Zallard's Give & Take Run
23:05 Zallard's Next Great Run
23:31 Super Macho Man (Hey Look He's Very Luck Based Again)
23:59 Macho's Countdown Knockdown
25:06 Macho's Muckery
25:25 Narcis Prince
26:14 Narcis' Destruction Of The Run
26:51 Super Punch-Out!!'s Lack Of Care
27:21 The Record's Stagnation
27:30 Hooty's 2:53
27:46 Zallard's Further Runs
28:56 Rick Bruiser
29:12 Rick Phases 1 & 2
29:28 Rick Phase 3
30:25 Super Punch-Out!! Being Super Punch-Out!!
30:51 Zallard's Brief Break
31:05 Zallard's Return³
31:46 Successful Rick & Nick
32:29 Zallard Stepping Back From Running
33:04 Zallard Stepping Forward To Running
33:27 Another Great Pace
34:49 A Heartbreaking Finish
35:28 A Path For Redemption
35:56 Redemption Cut Down
36:19 A New Record
36:34 He Wasn't Fond Of
37:24 Timeline Lookback
37:53 Zallard's Slow Down
38:04 A New Challenger Approached
38:54 Mysteryman's Input Delay
39:39 Mysteryman's Strats
40:37 Hooty's New Strat
40:48 Mysteryman's Attempts To Take Down Zallard
41:49 Mysteryman's World Record
43:00 The New Runners (Hey Look It's KHANanaphone)
43:25 Stocc
43:41 Stocc's Barely Sub 2:40
44:16 The 2 New Runners
44:37 Cranklinson's Run
46:00 Even More Sub 2:40s & Zallard's Fall Down On The Leaderboard
46:29 New Strats
46:48 3 Record Pace Runs That Failed
47:16 The God Run
47:41 MrMega's Run
48:52 Mega's Successful Record
49:54 FatPotatoSeal's 1/155,000 Pace
52:41 The Most Heartbreaking Finish To A Speedrun Ever
53:49 Conclusion
54:15 Credits
How does nobody comment on this it’s crazy how long he took for this
HOLY DOC LOUIS
Never fails to amaze me how I’m continuously brought from “I have never played this game in my life” to “OH NO, HE COULD’VE SAVED .05 SECONDS IF THE FRAME PERFECT TECHNIQUE WAS UTILIZED!” type of informational and emotional roller coaster in these videos.
When he talked about switching from 3rd to 1st person I thought he was gonna go back to his OG punch out days and introduce himself as the next world record holder lol. Great video as always!
Same here!
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Same
For real, I want to see SummoningSalt throw his hat in the contender’s ring.
Same here, that would have been really epic
FatPotatoSeal and MR's 31/32 are two of the most heartbreaking moments in speedrunning ever.
And the guy from the wii sports video who fucked up the boxing
What's MR's 31/32?
@@adityakhanna113 so in Mario kart 64 he held 31 out of 32 records and he never could get the last one
@@adityakhanna113 I think his name is spelled Mattias Rustemeyer if you wanna look him up. He's probably the greatest MK64 player ever. He wound up retiring from MK64 because of a lack of sportsmanship from his main competitor, which is pretty tragic considering how much further he could have pushed the records
@@fahkyew7776 what kind of poor sportsmanship?
update: awosomeandy has actually done it! he has gotten the first sub 2m 30s with an unbelievable time of *2m 28s 79ms!*
great video salt! and great job andy!
jesus, someone else in this comment section said that would take 23 years to happen lol
@@clayel1 Mnkeys and typewriters, man. Monkeys and typewriters.
@@clayel1 gamblers fallacy on his part. Sure something may be unlikely but it's the same odds of happening the first time as the thousandth.
That's pretty insane. A perfect run - with perfect luck - is 2:16.73 I believe, and I'm not sure if every TAS strategy is human possible on this game.
Yeah i saw the Andy video it was so hype that body punch counter was insane
I’m not even into speedrunning, but your storytelling ability is captivating. Love the content!
If that run at the end had succeeded, I honestly would have suspected something. Seeing it fail, and knowing it was real, was heartbreaking.
I sometimes popped into his streams to watch his Narcis Prince TAS Tie attempts, and it took him months of grinding almost every day. So yeah, I would believe it if he actually got that god run. But yeah it’s really sad that he lost that run to nerves, it’s completely understandable but also utterly heartbreaking :(
It's impossible to fathom how mentally strong he was to react like he did after that fight.
If I were in his shoes at that point in time, my mental reaction would have caused me to vomit, then get a near fatal heart attack, and then fall unconscious, all live on stream.
If you think that that's too extreme, I actually got a really small bit of nausea just watching that Nick fight.
@@gsesquire3441 Who wouldn't.
Especially after watching the whole video up to that point, where Salt completely stops rhe video's flow in it's tracks right before that segment, and with a black screen as the backdrop, switches to a first person narration; which he admits he's never done before. And during the segment itself, he explains every godroll situation and raises the odds bigger and bigger, eventually reaching the millions, and all of that while HOME is slowed down and pitched to a lower key.
Cinematography is way more powerful than most people think, and he wanted us to feel those kinds of emotions, it's just that I'm a little more sensitive.
@@gsesquire3441 He may be but if you've done any kind of speedrunning or rhythm games you'd know the feeling when you're on THE god run. At the very least, your heart rate gets insanely high (170-180bpm), your vision gets tunneled visioned af, your hands shake like you have parkinsons. Chance for mistakes are incredibly high.
@@gsesquire3441 Yes
This is 100% going to be lost in the sea of comments, but on the same day this was uploaded FatPotatoSeal achieved a PB of 2:33.24, just a bit slower than the WR, and he is quiting Single Segment for the future.
What Salt said was right, it is entirely possible he will NEVER see that pace again in his life, truly a tragedy.
Massive props to him for having the dedication to keep playing the game after that.
I mean he'd have to do 1000 runs a day for over a decade to have a 50% chance of seeing another run like that. That's almost constant punch out for a decade or 3 decades if you're doing it 8 hours a day. Keep in mind that's not even a 50% chance yet so there's like a 25% chance you go 6 decades playing punch out for 8 hours a day and still not see another perfect run. I don't blame him, I'm just impressed he came back to nearly tie the world record.
That was such a heartbreaker. That was quite literally the pace of a lifetime, or multiple people's lifetimes
Crushing. Massive respect to him to have even ran it up until this point
Damn, this vid made so many of the characters of Super Punchout even cooler than I already found them. It especially did sucha good job of making Rick and especially Nick Bruiser so much cooler and more memorable than I've ever found them before; going from "we're not gonna even try for a license like Mike Tyson again" to "the ultimate gatekeepers of good speedruns even decades later", especially Nick with those damn awesome animations and expressions. Your storytelling and editing just get better and better, able to take characters designed for totally different purposes long ago and breathe new life and purpose into them.
That slight nod to Jon Bois in 18:45 gave me goosebumps, you two are the best storytellers in RUclips
When I periodically come back to this vid and see that red line appear, I always brace myself for one of Jon’s go-to music jumpscares. Every single time.
Showing the graph for each record and its impact on the whole graph made this video so much more dramatic than I could have anticipated, very well executed on your behalf. Really well done!
was great idea, i think having the timeline on the graph or something would be awesome to give that completeness to the chart
I absolutely loved the graph and the new music any everything about this video. Somehow Summoning Salt outdid themselves again.
I do have one idea that I think this video's graph was missing, and that's the subsequent graphs for each the competitors! I want to see Zalard1 in white, kicking ass, then see mysteryman's blue line fade, showing the steady progress with the eventual overtaking, and then stocc, and all the others. It doesn't need to be too cluttered, but a fade in/fade out of the various contenders with the critical points remaining color coded could have added a lo tot the overall presentation.
I think 3Blue1Brown could have a field day with the complete, time-stamped data for each of the players, including their finalized and potential runs (which was another great addition to this video). The graphing potential is enormous.
@@kindlin YES
ssshhhh im watching the video
@@3fromthebacktcg105 i purposefully didn't spoil anything. Cause there's already people yelling in the comments like "I CAN'T BELIEVE _____ MADE THAT COMEBACK" or something
That ending is heartbreaking, holy mother of god
Just seeing the numbers on screen made my heart sink
I've never rooted for someone so hard :')
Thanks for the amazing video as always!
If you know anything about the speedrunning community, you know that there will be runners until the god run achieved, and maybe even after that. So while heartbreaking, it will be just a speed bump in history.
Do we know for sure he didn't set the clock for that 1 in 2,688,000 run? Would that be against the rules?
Watch "Mario Kart 64: The Quest for World Record Perfection", then.
@@fostena I have!! Matthias is also an absolute monster! What a great story, it doesn't even sound real. It's amazing how thrilling the video is and how invested you get!
Lmao
The way Nick Bruiser was animated, the way he looks down on you, how he doesn’t react much to hits, how he walks to you, topped with being the last one to beat with such incredible difficulty gives off this idea that he’s the biggest villain in the game
This is not a game I would personally play and yet Summoning Salt's narration brings me to tears in these videos. Thank you for all the hard work you put into making this a reality
Imagine that if FPS' run would've succeeded, that time would essentially be unbeatable and probably stay as the wr until the end of time, unless a new strategy was uncovered
It would kill the game for sure. Its good for the community that he did not pull it off.
@@ballzz2thewall i think it would of increased the amount of people looking and researching alternative strategies
And I thought I was a bad teen for getting to the 8th Mr Sandman in the original video game at Malibu Grand Prix 🤣🤣🤣
I'm gonna do some math here just to see how good that record was, correct me if I make any errors:
Let's just say the default time spent on your average speedrun was 2.30 minutes, not including the time it takes in between, just to be generous. 2.30 x 2688000 = 6182400 minutes. Divide that by 60 for individual hours and you get 103040 hours, divided by 24, it equates to what rounds out to 4293 days. If you think I'm being generous with the full 24 hours, then cut down to 12 and we get 8586 rounded down. With all that in mind, even if you lived, breathed, and feasted by this sole game, getting this kind of luck would take over 23 years by default.
It goes without saying that this is the kind of record that doesn't get knocked down. It would take decades even if you banded a group of people who were willing to spend however long it took. And while people could still continue to push for their own personal best's, having that gigantic leap in time and luck looming over them probably forever would just destroy any motivation the community had. It's quite literally a run killer.
Edit: I was wrong, check the pinned comment.
@@lukebytes5366 Yea and to think that this is one of if not the only game in speedrunning history to get that close to having a practically unbeatable wr
I love Zallard. Easily one of my favorite runners. He swears like a sailor but he’s extremely humble. It’s like all Punch out games were made with his strats in mind, he just had to break them.
His GDQ Blindfold run is probably my favorite of any speedrun
My favorite quote is "get fucked super punch out" after the first sub 250
Is this viral? Omg
@@Benjamin-ey9jg Dilations Done Quick is horrible.
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v Get out of here with your transphobic BS.
These Summoning Salt videos are closest thing there is to Jon Bois videos for speedrunning. And that is the biggest compliment I can give to a RUclips video. The style and narrative choices are very similar and I love it. So glad I gave these videos a go after RUclips has been shoving them to my face for months.
I don't think the music to Summoning Salts videos could be any more nostalgic or accurate for the subject of retro video games, reminds me of being a kid and the wonder felt when playing a game you love and overcoming the challenges and doing the fun miscellaneous objectives and tricks there are to do in so many of the great games of the 90s and early 2000s. Keep up the great work summoning salt.
Zallard is hands down my favorite speed runner. If there was ever someone I'd want to meet in person it would probably have to be him. I feel like he's such a rare breed of extreme humbleness without being too hard on himself. Even if someone achieves something like a world record it typically goes one of two ways: either they become extremely arrogant, or they don't give themselves enough credit with statements like "I could've done better..." I feel like Zallard has found that perfect middle ground where he's motivated enough to make improvements, but not killing himself over something that's impossible. The man can crush a world record and still keep his cool like it's no big deal, but if someone else claimed a record he would sincerely congratulate them because he knows the work that goes into these games.
Great comment
If he ever starts running the game again, I'm sure he'll get back the world record (though the last one is still ultra depressing and I really feel for the guy; I'd probably quit not only speedrunning but playing video games in general if something like that happened to me)
While zallard is awesome, I would never pass up the opportunity to meet Matt Turk.
@@jeffcarroll1990shock Got some actual proof of that claim? Every time I've interacted with him on his twitch streams he's been the most chill guy I've ever known. Wanting to compete for world records doesn't mean they want to feel superior to everyone else. A lot of people just like the thrill of competition and why shouldn't he strive for improvement in what he does?
Huh. I was expecting a dream stan or two for some reason
Interesting Fact:
At the same day this video was published, FatPotatoSeal got a crazy 2m 33s 240ms time, making him second place. Less than half a second from world record.
Wonder how long it’ll take him to break the world record.
The editing on this video is incredible tbh
I think this is by far one of my most favorite Summoning Salt videos. The game is fascinating to hear about and you've done a great job capturing it. Super Punch-Out!! has been a childhood game and it's awesome to see it like this. Thank you!
Man, I remember playing the heck out of Super Punch-Out when it came out on Wii Virtual Console, my dad introduced me to the series thanks to him just buying the original, inputting the Mr. Dream code from memory even though he hadn't played for nearly 20 years, and beat him in the first round. One of my most fond gaming memories to this day, and a fantastic video to see come out today, you always do fantastic work Salt!
Howdy Chaotic Meatball! Fancy seeing you here!
Who are you
You don't know me, but I'd like to ask you a favor.
Tell your dad random people on the internet think he's awesome.
Based dad
mr dream wasnt in super punch out
This channel is the sole definition of "quality over quantity".
And you're a knockoff :)
Why is this so accurate
Regardless of minor errors, these videos are amazing. The way you break the mechanics down and explain the history is really impressive. You are very talented.
You make such amazing videos. I’ve never played any of these games but the way the story’s been told is just straight up amazing. The skill or the gamers unimaginably good
8:25 I smell some Jon Bois inspiration
I had the exact same thought
It’s a chart party 🎉
The bit from 18:30-19:00 especially
i wonder if he used google earth and everything
Man you and Summoning Salt uploaded back to back? So freaking awesome.
I loved the ending. Bittersweet. Heartbreaking, but with a fistful of hope. Thanks for the amazing videos ♥
Hearing the game say "Piece of cake!" after what happened to FatPotatoSeal was probably the platonic ideal of irony.
I’ve watched quite a few of your videos lately and all I can say is wow. From the opening music (PLEASE don’t change it by the way) to your amazing story telling abilities. Every video truly feels like an absolute journey through the timeline of whatever game is getting broken this time. I always look forward to watching your videos and I’m honestly super excited for whatever game is being broken for the sake of shaving off .01 seconds.
The effort and research required for these is very impressive. You deserve all the success you have!
Man, even I felt my soul get absolutely crushed at FatPotatoSeal's run at the end. I can't even possibly fathom the absolute pain he suffered at the end of that run. Heartbreaker can't even begin to describe that.
Last time someone got a run with odds like that, they got investigated in a 29 page report. Jokes aside, I half expected a Matt Turk cameo somewhere in here. Great work as always.
was about to say the same thing lmao
When he said at the end he doesn't like going first person, I almost thought he was going to show himself getting the god run...
Yo what if that was him 👀
The crazy thing is this run is a MILLION times more likely than Dreams 1 in 7 trillion
@@rolothomosky LMAO same
End of this video made me cry. Not going to lie. You're a remarkable content producer. Thanks for everything.
Definitely my new favorite video of yours, kept me on edge till the very end and was so hype! Thank you for all the content you put out for us Salt!~
16:05 is that an 7 frame reaction? That's completely nuts. No way any anywhere "normal" human would have such an amazing reaction time. "Normal" is like 12 frames, maybe 13 even. I get anxious just by imagining myself in a situation in which I have to react so quickly... at the end of a run.
If you counted based off youtube’s frames, remember that youtube runs at 30 fps. Not sure what his game runs at, but if it’s 60, then you’re seeing 1 youtube frame for each 2 frames in game.
@@drago5819 Good point. It can be a bit harder to tell with Twitch footage anyway (since the quality can be all over the place), but this video in general doesn't appear to have a 60 fps option. So if it's 7 frames on RUclips, that's probably more like 13-14 60 fps frames, aka ~217-233 ms.That's around average human reaction time, but add a few frames for Virtual console (not sure on the number there) and things get shaky for the vast majority of people to reliably or even feasibly react to.
@@reNINTENDO But remember, that's reaction time when _not_ making a decision. Which is why having to select between two things in that span is at the edge of ability and impossible with any lag.
I can tell you, a lot of "twitch-reaction" gamers will have the ability to have a 7-frames reflex. It's not even a conscious reaction, it's just "it went this way thumb twitches that way".
I'm speaking as a dude who had to learn twitch reactions for Megaman Zero 2, there's 0 conscious thought in my brain between things moving and my thumbs and pointers moving. I figure with Super Punch-Out it's the same thing, they see the character shift and the reflex goes through before they even think "it's this move, must do that".
I can hit a 7 frame window no problem. But I'm a Melee player so yeah
18:50 I love how Jon Bois is such an influence to visual storytelling like this. That moment is straight out of his videos.
Had the exact same thought. This is easily one of the most Jon bois-inspired videos I’ve seen with the usage of the timeline
Hi,
I would just like to say that this single comment led me down a rabbit hole. In pretty much one sitting, I read both 17776 and xkcd's Time.
Because of this, I now have to stay up late working on an assignment I have due tomorrow.
Don't feel bad. These were all my decisions. You're the reason I've just read one of the most profound stories of all time, and it's already made a big impact on me.
So thank you.
Sincerely,
A Fellow RUclips Commenter
@@novachromatic Jon Bois has made a ton of incredible pieces of content over the years, I hope you take the time to check a lot of them out. He is truly special
Jon and Salt are super tight too. I feel like there’s a lot of mutual creative respect from both of them. Two of the best video makers on the website.
Even his opines on the ruthlessness of Super Punch-Out feel straight out of Jon Bois’ Atlanta Falcons series
Nothing but immense admiration for Jon and Salt’s storytelling
Always a fan of the beautifully paced storytelling from this channel. One of the main highlights from me is the music used as I have now downloaded several tracks from HOME and really REALLY enjoy the music list that accompanies these videos. I feel like there could be a speedrun community for paint drying and Summoning Salt can make it a compelling narrative.
It was a lost opportunity not calling this video “the Ballard of Zallard”
The absolute rhythm in storytelling of this video.
Only introduces strategies for specific boxers when it is relevant to a run in question.
Legit impressed.
The new timeliness graph was really cool to visualise all the records and the time between them rather than just the numbers.
Yes, but he needs to label the x-axis. Also, when he zooms in, the labelling of the y-axis is not visible, thus the graph loses its purpose. Why so few people address that in the comments, is beyond me...
@@whiterottenrabbit Granted, but the visualisation at all is nice considering previously only the leader boards themselves were visible. Both axis being labelled should be done next time but zooming in for dramatic effect is fine I think, in those instances the visual is being used artistically.
You never fail to absolutely amaze me Mr.Salt. I’m watching a game that I have never even heard of, never mind actually care about, and by the end of the video I was so invested I went from laying down to sitting on the edge of my bed, legit YELLING at my TV. That was the most DEVASTATING ending to a “world record progression” video I have ever seen. I don’t think a run like that last one will EVER be seen again. I do believe a 2.30 or even a 2.29 IS possible, but it won’t be as insanely lucky as Potatoes run. Again, ABSOLUTE BANGER or a video Salt. Keep up the GREAT work, soon you’ll be everyone’s FAVORITE game commentary/essay RUclipsr. Who knows, maybe in even some more time, everyone’s favorite just RUclipsr in general, I know u already in my top 3 and you’re not 3. Love the vids and all the effort
I was truly on tears by the end of the video. Stellar story telling. Thank you for your spectacular content.
I love the time graphic used here
That was absolutely heartbreaking. I kinda hope Zallard comes back and retakes the lead and shakes things up again. Great video as always!
he was on 2:39 pace into Rick last night! quite a long ways off 2:32 but was still pb pace, hes derusting so your wish could come true!
also on Rick he made a small execution mistake in phase 3 so he never got to see if he took the super, because he failed to throw it at the right time
I just love how chill and epic these feel every time. Makes my day,thanks for all the hard work. I can't imagine how I would react to getting that final run. Absolutely unprecedented.
Keep making this excellent content. Loved this game growing up and honestly if you made a doc about a game I never played or didn't care about, I would still watch the content you're creating here.
I’m liking the new timeline format for these history lessons. It gives a better visual of how far set records progressed with better execution and everything else.
This was a rollercoaster of crazy progression and rng barriers to fend off.
Agreed! The visual timeline really gives a proper picture how far the record has moved!
32:49 I really love this subtle bit of foreshadowing here with how the leaderboard was used here. Not even a couple of minutes before this point, essentially this same leaderboard of the then-current Top 3 runners was pulled up to show how large the current gap in competition was between Zallard and the times of next runner after him.
But when it got pulled up _this_ time to show 2nd and 3rd place were still the same times even after the half a year gap between Zallard's WRs, there's suddenly just this 4th name on the board that wasn't there before with Mysteryman, who goes completely unmentioned in the moment, only for that same name to then come up properly in a BIG way later on when they stormed into the scene to completely _demolish_ Zallard's record in spite of the extra layer of difficulty they had to deal with of the input delay they had to work around.
Even if that wasn't actually an intentional bit of foreshadowing at work there to hint at what was to come later on, that was still some good stuff nonetheless.
Damn dude, you made me tear up in those last minutes. The first person narrative and the crushing defeat at the last fight were brutal. Never thought I'd cry because of a speedrun.
I don’t even play video games often but these videos are compelling and enthralling. I do not zone out or get bored at any point.
I just watched 54 minutes of a game I've never played and I enjoyed every second of it.
Also, that ending was brutal. Just goes to show that no matter how incredible your run can be, all it takes is ONE thing and it's over. It doesn't even have to be your fault and that's the risk that speedrunners have to deal with all the dang time which is why I respect them so much.
spoilers??????
@@bryceinnerst7963 lmao watch the video before u read the comments 😂
@@SHADOW17018 im sorry to want to see what others think of the video before watching it now that the dislike button is gone
I discovered this game as an adult on emulators and I loved it
none of my friends knew about it
I was bummed that I didn't get to experience this game in my childhood with my cousin
child me would've love it
and later I realized that the arcade version was super popular. makes sense since the ideas behind this game are awesome
nice video once again
Arcade Super Punch Out was actually released significantly before the SNES was even an idea!
I think it’s based more off of the “Super” in Super Nintendo.
why is this written like poetry
@@gremlinman9724 good question
@@g.u.959 I know
The master of storytelling, investment, emotion, tension.
Seriously. The skill to tell these stories is next level.
You know it’s great when you have people watching that don’t play or speedrun any games!
I’d be very curious to see what kind of retention you get, as a RUclips stat nerd. I guarantee it’s very high, which to do on an hour video is awesome
Just for reference, 2:16.41 is the fastest theoretical time any player can possibly get in this game.
18:37 the editing here litterally made my heart drop. i loved this new style of giving a physical timeline for us to see and to execute it to make us angsty was so dope. much love
The song switch when the red line appeared builds up so much anticipation
@@20DX00It literally gave me chills. Such a sick edit
God, I can't imagine running a game like this. You have to play well _and_ win the lottery? These runners have the persistence of gods.
Indeed, the large elements of luck would melt most people's brains, it would surely feel so unfair to have runs destroyed in that way
One of your best yet! Keep em coming! I was on the edge of my seat all 50 minutes
I was just going to like the video and close it because I was not interested but ended up watching all of it. That's your power, the writing and everything is so nice that you can make people watch hour-long videos about games they have zero interest in. I've watched some of your videos before about games that I also had no interest in too. I'm happy your extensively worked-on videos get the recognition they deserve with millions of views. You're a gem of the internet for documenting so many speedrun histories, it's like an archive, a concentrated place to watch the history of a decently big portion of the speedrunning community as of now, and the portion is growing bigger with every video. Our little gem of the internet that everyone loves and appreciates, it's nice.
Crazy to see how your voice and script writing has developed over the past 4 years. Also I had no idea that your channel used to be based on this game until I just scrolled through your channel history.
Not this game specifically, but its 'prequel.'
His channel was based on mike tyson's punch out not on this game. But it is pretty much the same concept.
To be honest this episode kinda bugged me because he's just using the same script template over and over and over at this point. He lists off things that would make executing a particular thing in the game more difficult progressivly, then asks the rhetorical question "and what do you think particular boss did or and what do you think said player did". This episode it was always "did the game screw them? Yes or No." And there was a rather large build up to each yes or no question. It almost reminded me of Blues Clues for it's simplicity.
I'm not saying I hate the content or him, but I just think it's getting dull. One other very minor nit pick would be his lack of anything that isn't a Nintendo game, but like I said that's a personal nit pick. I feel that this A,B,C script writing along with very little innovation in presentation has really hurt things. Video essays have grown a lot since 2017, and his content feels very stuck in 2017.
the script writing isn't that great - it's kinda formulaic
The closest I've ever really come in my life to speed running anything was super punch out. Back in the 90s I got my copy used and whoever had owned it before me had clearly put thousands of hours into it, setting times on every fight WAY beyond what I thought was even possible (keeping in mind this was the 90s so the internet was young and lacking in information so I have no idea how good those times actually were). The result was for the first time in a game of this variety, I had something to shoot for, not just beating my own personal best, but extremely high goals that were intimidating but that I knew were actually possible, even if it took me thousands of hours myself to figure some of them out. I have no idea what my times were anymore, and I'm sure the battery back up has long since died, losing them forever to time, but I don't think as a kid I was ever as proud of something no one else in the world ever saw (or would probably care about if they did), then I was of grinding my way to taking the top high score in every fight in Super Punch Out. In a lot of ways that makes this video vary nostalgic, especially that unique combo of losing perfect runs to RNG, and RNG perfect runs to execution errors, that would both crush my soul, and make me even more so want to give it one more try.
Summoning Salt: “and the previous owner of that copy, _was Matt Turk.”_ *music starts playing*
@@Slender_Man_186 LOL, well I know that can't be true because I did actually beat most of the times, just took me years of trial and error and learning tricks. Though the owner did resell it, so I guess it could have been Matt Turk before he got serious about punch out. There is something fun about imagining those near impossible to reach times were from a young Matt Turk just messing around for a weekend.
@@DanTheMeek do you remember any of the times?
@@Slender_Man_186 Been too many years to say anything with certainty. I'm pretty sure I remember Gabby Jay being in the high 6s, almost 7 second even, mostly because he was the first time I chased after so I spent a long time figuring out how to get there and once I did and beat him with something just fractions of a second faster in the 6 seconds, it was so eye opening how much faster times were possible then I realized it encouraged me to chase them all.
After him though I'd just be guessing.
wow crazy story. That must have kept you occupied for hours upon hours. How old were you when you then?
I just heard about your channel from a short animation and wanted to check it out. I clicked on the first video I saw with no intention to finish it. Not only did I finish it, but I enjoyed every second of it. I really mean it when I say Summoning Salt is the best story teller I've seen on youtube
This video was truly fascinating cause it's rare that a single runner gets covered for such a long stretch of time, it was really cool seeing one person's history and their own personal improvements. And by the time the video had to leave him to focus on other runners, there was such an appreciation built up for all the timesaves made that these other runners felt even more impressive. I truly love these videos and what they're doing to highlight the speedrunning community
The last bit of video is pure heartbreak. I hope he's doing ok right now and is healthy
Unfortunately, he lost control in the days and weeks following this tragedy. He started suffering from insomnia and loss of appetite. His close friends and family started noticing unusual behavior and his normal, nice guy behavior totally disappeared. He had quickly became very toxic due to his inability to put the whole situation behind him. He gave up speed running altogether, and instead starting doing copious amounts of crack/cocaine as a way of helping him mentally escape the pain and negativity caused by Mr. Bruiser. Unfortunately, the pain caused by the loss of the run was now compounded with a strong addiction to the high-grade cocaine that he was consuming. Word around town is that he became homeless and panhandled near the intersection by his former house. His family has tried to get him some help, but to no avail. Even though I've made this whole thing up, I'll give you a conclusion to this story. Recently, his family was eventually able to get him into an expensive local rehab facility where he has since gotten clean from drugs. He is currently half way through 180 inpatient treatment where he is allowed to do things such as arts and crafts, watch television, and play video games. They even have a Wii and the punch out game that caused all of this in the first place. Word on the streets is that he is back to grinding for the record books again. Best of luck to Mr. Fatpotatoboy!
@@wesgrubbs8437 Dont meme about this shit.
@@lexingtonbrython1897 I didn't meme. Whatever that means. I was just telling the tragic story of Fat Boy Potatoes. Or something like that.
@@wesgrubbs8437 Wait did that actually happen?
To invalidate the troll's giant paragraph, yes, he's doing fine. You can find his Twitch channel and he literally streamed a day ago.
That ending was heartbreaking for me. Love the new style of editing with the graph of progression, great watch and gg to all the runners accomplishments on this video.
Holy fuck how do your videos almost always have me crying by the end. It's incredible how you manage to make us feel emotional over someone getting screwed over by RNG in a 20+ year old game
Great editing. The extra effort taken to keep the background stage positioning consistent as you fade between different fighters is cool.
The old saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder" is the best compliment I can give you about your videos. Thank you for making the best videos on the platform. Even though they take a while to get to us lol.
Absence makes the heart go yonder.
I feel so old right now. I remember getting this for Christmas..... which means i was 12. I'll never forget that Christmas, because i had the flu. I felt so shitty but so pumped! My shortest playthrough was 20 min., and my friends thought i was awesome. Thank you for bringing me back to reality. Love the channel, keep rockin' it!
@K A D I E oh my goooood 😱
I hadn't heard about super punch-out before this video, I watched a few minutes and it instantly made me want to play.
Fast forward to today, I just beat Nick Bruiser and this is now one of my favorite games ever.
I just wanted to say thanks a lot, and great video.
Each video you improve the way you tell those stories that's amazing. Keep doing this, you're talented !
It's 6am, I've been sitting with my newborn daughter for hours, losing my mind with her crying and her being unable to settle. Seeing an upload from you has have me a respite and escape for the last hour. Thank you and keep making these great documentaries around speedrunning! All the best from Scotland
You’ll remember this evening fondly for the rest of your life. Someday you’ll look back wistfully and wish you could relieve it. I wish the best to you and your family, friend. ❤️
The first year is so tough.. you got this!
Hang in there brah
@@InfinityRipper Thanks, I'm just taking things one day at a time at the moment. Incredible experience so far.
@@willjames915 Thanks for the support kind stranger 💪👍
Crazy that one person managed to hold onto the WR for that long. Props to him for his accomplishment and to those who finally managed to surpass it.
zallard is the GOAT
I can't wait for your next video I love these history of speedrun videos and the research you're doing is unmatched. Keep up the killer work