There is a fine line between the Happy Happy Helloween goofiness and the more serious note of the song. I think Kiske straddles that line perfectly in this vid. He hams it up during the breakdown, lets off when Weikath does his quiet solo, and then goes really serious when the emotional arc of the song finishes out. Great example of the perfect Helloween frontman!
yep, he was much better than what the records suggest (and still he was f*** good on them), he was more of a live drummer kinda Clive Burr from Maiden, they performed better onstage than in albums probably due to production or enginnering issues
look at the channel from his family, they upload some very very nice videos and private memories of ingo RIP und in hamburch sagt man tschüss, machs gut diggah!!
Für mich die einzig wahre Besetzung! Was für eine Kopfstimme! Da werden Tonlagen erreicht, Hammer! Bin mit den Keepers-Alben groß geworden, was für eine geile Zeit! ❤️
@@giovannimancilla7754 nevermind that the majority of their popular songs and albums came after him.. lol. I prefer Kai too but come on man gimmie a break.
From what I´v heard, the reason Weikath is so serious doing this song, is that there is a message in this song, and he wrote it so he could bring out that message. Thumbs up for that Weikath, stay heavy and happy helloween!!!! :D
EPIC VIDEO!!!! no words for real! hahahaha! enjoy everybody the best heavy(speed)metal singer ever created in this planet! :D hahahaha! I won't go further for different opinions... no time to discuss, Kiske is Kiske!
kai actually wanted ralf scheepers to sing for helloween originally. that would have been crazy. but kiske is so damned good!!!! im glad kiske joined the band
Ralf is a monster, that guy is a heavy metal god. His live performance on Gamma Ray’s 30rd anniversary singing Lust for Life is absolutely sick. Still Id rather have Kiske singing for Helloween. We are truly blessed, we have so many amazingly talented singers on Heavy Metal…
Weikath: You have written a masterpiece! Helloween has to rehire Kiske, Andi has done a great job, but he´s starting to lack, both on the voice, and on his hair (o´he cant pull of been bald). I know that Kiske was kind of a dick in the period before he was fired, Helloween needs him, and i think he need Helloween too. They should also try to get Kai back, him and Weikath write some killer-songs back in the days :)
Helloween never be the same ... Hansen was the spirit of helloween Kiske was the voice of helloween Ingo was the power of Helloween If any of these disappears and nothing will be the same :(
Young Marcos Alfaro Well, Weikath was just as much the spirit as Hansen was. If it wasn´t for Weikath, Helloween would be history today. Kiske became and egocentric prick, and he wanted to make pop-music. Helloween lacked in sales and support from their fans, so Weikath sacked him, and then they got bigger than ever.
Mickey Holm You're clearly clueless actually haha, I bet you're one of those sorts who blame Kiske for their albums after the Keepers...even though he wrote the same amount of material on each as he did his first two albums (and Weikath still wrote the majority of Pink bubbles go ape and chameleon.) You have to see things from two perspective....and meet in the middle, not just take one mans word for it. According to Kiske he LOVED being in Helloween until 89 when Kai Hansen left, he liked the music they made until that point as well. (He apparently worshiped Iron Maiden before joining the band...apparently had Eddie posters all over his room, he apparently threw away all of his metal stuff when he left Helloween...Either way he apparently didn't like Thrash as he thought it was 'dark' and 'negative'...which is why he didn't originally want to joint he band.....because of their more aggressive sound. You may have noticed that their material on the Keepers was SIGNIFICANTLY more Iron Maiden influence than their previous stuff.) According to Kiske...Hansen sort of just miraculously left almost without warning...but he actually blames Weikath for that. He suggests that Weikath had been slowly pushing them away since 88.......and then when Kai left...well Weikath (according to Kiske.) took hold of the band basically completely, he was also very harsh on Ingo......apparently the manor in which he threw him out of the band was so harsh that Kiske actually blames Weikath for Ingo killing himself (although that's not really fair in my opinion....it's a fucking tragedy but Weikath didn't exactly tie the Noose.) Kiske suggests that how Weikath dealt with Ingo as well as the band's musical directions are why he left. (and was later fired.) In kiske's words...he was ANGRY with heavy metal for a long time which is why he apparently did whatever he could to get away from it, he also for a long time held resentment even for Kai Hansen........but NOW has come back to making metal music as well as letting go of his resentment...even working with Kai (Although he has made immense with kai...he suggested that Kai will be judged for his actions, whatever that means......I guess he blames Kai for leaving.) He Suggested that it was unlikely he would ever work with Weikath again...but not impossible, he also believes that Kai probably wouldn't work with Weikath again (although I'm sure they already did?) Either way, Kiske according to HIM loved being in Helloween between 1987-89....So you can't really blame him for their newer musical direction. WHO LEFT THE BAND JUST BEFORE THE MUSIC CHANGED!!?!?!??!!? Kai Hansen, which basically proves that Kai was ultimately what made Helloween sound like Helloween.......WHICH IS WHY after he left and formed Gamma Ray,...THAT SOUND CONTINUED, where as Helloween still don't sound anything like they used to.
7dayspking Trust me, i have done my research on this. Yes, Kiske loved been in Helloween until 89. But Kiske only joined Helloween, because Weikath promised him to write more melodic songs, because Kai´s stuff was a bit too rough. Due to illness, Weikath couldn´t contribute much to Keeper 1, so him and Kai decided, that Kai would master Keeper 1, and Weikath could then master Keeper 2. So they start to work on Keeper 2, and though both Kai and Weikath compose songs to it, Weikath is the one arranging it, and has the last call. Kiske came to him with a couple of songs, but they were not meta enough. But Weikath accepted the songs, but on one condition: Weikath would rearrange them, so that they would fit more into the Helloween-style. Kiske, of course, didn´t like that, but accepted non the less. That way, the songs "We Got The Right" and "You Always Walk Alone" made it on the album. The whole "feud" between Weikath and Kiske started there. True, Kai left the band without warning. But that wasn´t because of Weikath, it was simply because Helloween had become too big for him. As Weikath said "Kai always had a more punk´ish feeling regarding the band, and the whole media-explosion that happened around Helloween, was not something he was interested in -so he leaves the band. When Kai left, 50% of the bands leadership left with him. Now there was only Weikath, and he never had Kai leaving in the calculations for the bands future. But they got into a big feud with Noise records on 1990, which meant that they had to be on break for two years. During those two years, Kiske envisioned a new Helloween, with HIM as the leader and main-composer. Kiske saw the opportunity to gain influence through Kai´s departure. Weikath, on the other hand, was on an emotional roller coaster. He was mad at Kai for leaving the band, and therefor also leaving him alone with all the whole responsibility of the band + he had to deal with the case against Noise Records. So while Kiske worked on new songs, Weikath had other things to deal with. But Kiske had found out how important he was for the band. As the lead-singer, he could have major influence. After the extreme success with Keeper 2, Weikath, now, new how important Kiske was, so he would not go directly against him, in the working-process of their new album. So Weikath let´s Kiske take the lead on Pink Bubbles, while he, himself, only co-writes one song on it. It ends up becoming a big failure, but Kiske is stubborn, and refuses to change the musical direction. Weikath knows that this cannot go on, but he don´t wanna risk Kiske leaving. So instead of confronting Kiske, he let him continue. Weikath tries to add more heaviness to the album, but even though "Giants" shows some of the old Helloween-style, it is overlooked by Kiske´s more progressive rock-songs. The album-sales a dropping, and the fans are turning their backs on the band. So Weikath can only see one option: they have to get rid of Kiske. So he decides to talk to the rest of the band behind his back, and while both Groskopf and Grapow agree´s with Weikath´s decision, Ingo is against it. But democracy has spoken, so Weikath goes directly to Kiske, and tell him head on: You´re out. Weikath is determined of saving the band, by any means necessary. Ingo has now become extremely unpredictable, and his sickness has gone from bad to worse, and was now affecting his ability to perform live. Weikath new what he had to do, so over a six hour-long phone call, he also sacked Ingo. I have all this from Tommy Hansen (former Helloween-producer and friend), whom I know. Now, I am not saying that Weikath is innocent in all this, because he isn´t. But he did what he had to do, in order to keep Helloween going. The reason that Hellowen is around today, is all Weikath. With Kiske, Helloween would´ve gone into oblivion. But of course, Weikath is to blame as well. He should have taken the lead as soon as Kai left. He Should´ve stood up to Kiske much earlier than he did, instead of letting things go SO far. Regarding Ingo, that was indeed a tragedy, but an unavoidable one. Again, Weikath did what he had to do. Ingo was way too sick in his mind, and he was damaging Helloween. But Weikath never felt good about sacking Ingo. Weikath cried in the phone when he told him, because he new what could happen if Ingo was left totally alone. him getting fired from Helloween, could´ve been what pushed him through the edge, and Weikath was never the same after he committed his suicide. Weikath has always felt, that if someone were to blame, it was him. But sacking Ingo was a mutual decision within the band -but Weikath had taken it upon himself to lead Helloween back to greatness, so therefor, he had to be the one telling Ingo :/
Mickey Holm You clearly didn't read my comment at all....I was referring to what Kiske's view was...and I'm sure Kiske would know more about what HE FELT and HE WANTED than you or anyone else did, LET ALONE WEIKATH.....who I'm sure would more than happily twist thing around (just as Kiske would when referring to Weikath....both of them are probably full of shit when talking about each other.) Kiske did ask for a more melodic Helloween....because he wanted Helloween to sound like IRON MAIDEN (who he pointed out were his favourite band before joining Helloween.)...and guess what? that is kind of what Helloween sounded like on the two Keepers albums...a mixture of Iron Maiden and the aggressive Speed/Thrash sound on their previous songs. Both We got the Right and You always walk alone were metal songs....just not aggressive Speed/Thrash songs like their other material......which again makes a lot of sense. Kiske himself in one of the interviews I read suggested that Ingo had to be removed from the band because he wasn't able to perform....he blamed Weikath because ACCORDING TO KISKE, Weikath had been treating Ingo poorly well before Ingo was kicked out of the band (Kiske also suggested Ingo was struggling well before Kiske or Ingo were removed from the band....and that him being removed was a long time coming, he just didn't like the manor in which the others treated him BEFORE that point....or how they STOPPED supporting him after he was removed from the band, HE WAS LEFT ALONE.) Helloween's pieces on Pink Bubbles go ape were still heavy metal songs......they were LESS MELODIC if anything than the songs on Keepers (and more generic Speed metal.) Which wouldn't make sense if Kiske had written all of it (I'm not even going to read the who composed them but I bet Kiske wrote BOTH 'Kids of the century' and 'Someone' crying' as both sound like old helloween songs.). Most of the actual songwriting is ACCORDING TO MOST SOURCES from Grapow, Kiske and Weikath.....all three of them contributed. Kiske did not write the whole album...Grapow and Weikath actually had as much input as Kiske did.........CHAMELEON is a different story though....Kiske only had MINIMAL input on Chameleon, most of the writing was down again by Grapow and Weikath. After Kiske and Ingo were fired.....THEIR SOUND DID NOT SHIFT BACK......their material after that point while still being quite serious......didn't really shift much stylistically (Well not from Pink Bubbles go Ape.....there are however differences between it and Chameleon.) The point I'm making is the SOUND ON THE KEEPERS ALBUM....was not Weikath's....hence why THAT SOUND WAS NEVER HEARD AGAIN in Helloween's music. Weikath never really played Melodic guitar passages or solos, KAI HANSEN ALWAYS DID (In fact Weikath seemed to fuck up most of the Clean guitar sections live.....he sounded like a cat scratching a chalkboard.) That Melodic Sound in Helloween's keeper albums was all Kiske, Kai and Ingo (Mainly Kai's guitar.).....which is why GAMMA RAY continued that Melodic sound....where as Helloween did not after Kai left. Apart from that, I never suggested Kai left because of Weikath.....it was Kiske whom did. He suggested Weikath started slowly pushing for control of the band since the FIRST Keepers album was written....and he believes that is why Kai left. Either way......I disagree with the idea that Weikath should have taken control sooner....because he did on Chameleon and it was in my opinion their worst album at the time. IN FACT I don't really like ANY of their albums after the Keepers releases (I don't hate them....I just don't love them.)....EXCEPT a few songs on Pink Bubbles go ape (although I wish they were more Melodic.) I'd prefer listen to Gamma Ray than newer helloween (I actually really like Gamma Ray.) I never really liked Weikath's helloween......where as I liked KAI'S (from Walls of Jericoche to Keepers part 2.) Can you see why I might perceive it the way I do now? I don't think Weikath 'saved' Helloween....I think Kai ruined it by leaving.....without Kai's sound....Helloween just wasn't my preference anymore. (even their debut album, their demo and their release on the Compilation/Split release 'Death metal' had those epic melodies that I loved about early Helloween....their newer stuff didn't.)
Andy Deris and Michael kiske is a legend! and They are both a very great vocalist! if you judge kiske is better than deris, or deris a better than kiske, that is very stupid thing!
Stamatis Katsikas because without him it's not the same band. Any of the other members can be replaced and they'll still be amazing but without Kiske it's a totally different band.
Stamatis Katsikas sorry but Helloween with Deris is not the same band as Helloween with Kiske. Not saying they're bad or Deris is bad. Kiske is just the best.
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The best fucking voice in metal history!!!!
Ingo is killer on the drums R.I.P
I miss those intense drumpaths!! he was the best for this!
Michael Kiske is the VOICE🤘
Just an incredible metal performance from the whole band. Kiske has one of the cleanest 5 octave voices ever truly gifted
Rich Stevens 5 octaves? he has 3 octaves and 8 semitones
I think Maybe He means 5th Octaves, or All the notes Sing in 5th octaves. For Example C5, D5 and E5
There is a fine line between the Happy Happy Helloween goofiness and the more serious note of the song. I think Kiske straddles that line perfectly in this vid. He hams it up during the breakdown, lets off when Weikath does his quiet solo, and then goes really serious when the emotional arc of the song finishes out. Great example of the perfect Helloween frontman!
rufus566 Well said, can‘t add something more ... 😉
6:54 after a 2 hours show, no words!!
it's a 90 minute show actually 😂
R. I. P inggo, You are the Best drummer and you sound Like machine gun... OMG
yep, he was much better than what the records suggest (and still he was f*** good on them), he was more of a live drummer kinda Clive Burr from Maiden, they performed better onstage than in albums probably due to production or enginnering issues
look at the channel from his family, they upload some very very nice videos and private memories of ingo
RIP und in hamburch sagt man tschüss, machs gut diggah!!
Drummer is a beast
One of the most beautiful songs helloween ever made.
Великая песня. Великая группа. Великий вокалист!!!!!!
Kiske rules!
And now he is back (If you see this 6 years after :) )
Thank you, Michael, for letting us know yesterday (Wacken), you still rock your songs !
Great performance. Kiske is such a powerhouse. Love Chameleon, Walls, Keepers I & II.
Kiske é o maior dentre os grandes
Kiske eres la voz mas linda del metal
Coisa mais linda rever essa live bischo ...lembro de toda a minha infância
Für mich die einzig wahre Besetzung! Was für eine Kopfstimme! Da werden Tonlagen erreicht, Hammer!
Bin mit den Keepers-Alben groß geworden, was für eine geile Zeit! ❤️
🤘🎃🤘 Same 🤘🎃🤘
Excelente Michael Kiske y Helloween.
this is magic. my childhood.
Siempre quise escuchar ésta canción grabada con Kiske en estudio.
La version en estudio es buena pero la version en concierto es brutal
Amo , desde 1987 quando ouvi pela primeira vez, amor a primeira vista que banda magnífica
Nice voice of Michael kiske
Y el hombre mas bello del mundo te amooooo
This is Helloween, not only Kiske.
Célio Azevedo No kiske, No Hansen= No Helloween
@@giovannimancilla7754 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@@giovannimancilla7754 nevermind that the majority of their popular songs and albums came after him.. lol. I prefer Kai too but come on man gimmie a break.
@@FatherAxeKeeper There are around 3 videos with this same title. lol. Love Kiske, but Helloween is a group, not a solo work.
@@celioazevedoofficial I know. I was replying to the guy who insisted helloween can't exist without kai.
6:49 i love that high notes
Não canso de assistir essas relíquias. Michael sem dúvida é um dos melhores vocais do metal mundial.
Una de las mejores voces del metal
Michael is the BEST!!!
Helloween, the best👍👍👍
From what I´v heard, the reason Weikath is so serious doing this song, is that there is a message in this song, and he wrote it so he could bring out that message.
Thumbs up for that Weikath, stay heavy and happy helloween!!!! :D
Oh my bright high school era
Ingo Thunderbolt Drumbeats - RIP
how many tears...i love this song....
Kiske is fucking amazing
Ingo
Versão genial!!!
Watching 18 dec 2021 ☕👍🎼🎧🎵🎶🎉🎊
super KISKE !!!
Because this human has an incredible metal voice and totally rocks this song. He was Kai's choice for lead singer, and still is with Unisonic.
Parabéns alemones....
I hope they play this song with Kiske at Pumpkins United ;)
Hrrmoso hombre
да как прекрасно все молодые и Инго ещё живой.
From singer To musician the best ever...
Hope to hear this great song live at Pumpkins United!!!
6:54 , 7:33 OMG!!!
I get goosebumps every time I hear those moments, truly amazing singer
Gracias ❤
how many memories xD
Kiske n ingo
OH I WANT THIS TO!!!
beatiful song 👏 🎸 🎸 🎸 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃💪👆ingo eternooo
Ingo🕯♥️
Sublime!!!
metal at its best. \m/
kiske kiske kiske
Приезжайте в Россию!
those days are gone
Kiske good
Two days to open the World Tour!
Pumpkin United Monterrey México!
:D
5:21 That's not a drummer It's the fucking artillery
RIP INGO!!!!!
no problem, glad you enjoy them
No manches! Que chingón tocaban!
Hahahaha
EPIC VIDEO!!!! no words for real! hahahaha! enjoy everybody the best heavy(speed)metal singer ever created in this planet! :D hahahaha! I won't go further for different opinions... no time to discuss, Kiske is Kiske!
Same songs: Helter Skelter - Tiada Lagi Air Mata
kai actually wanted ralf scheepers to sing for helloween originally. that would have been crazy. but kiske is so damned good!!!! im glad kiske joined the band
Ralf is a monster, that guy is a heavy metal god. His live performance on Gamma Ray’s 30rd anniversary singing Lust for Life is absolutely sick.
Still Id rather have Kiske singing for Helloween.
We are truly blessed, we have so many amazingly talented singers on Heavy Metal…
3:38
Harmonise 🎸🚦✔
Sounded great back then, even though they were having a bad time as a band, which ultimately led to Michi leaving the band for a long time.
Rrrrrrright
Miss u ingo
ingo le sabe RIP compita
Did anyone else notice that the cup he threw fell on his own head?
This was epic
RIP INGO!
Weikath: You have written a masterpiece!
Helloween has to rehire Kiske, Andi has done a great job, but he´s starting to lack, both on the voice, and on his hair (o´he cant pull of been bald). I know that Kiske was kind of a dick in the period before he was fired, Helloween needs him, and i think he need Helloween too.
They should also try to get Kai back, him and Weikath write some killer-songs back in the days :)
Helloween never be the same ...
Hansen was the spirit of helloween
Kiske was the voice of helloween
Ingo was the power of Helloween
If any of these disappears and nothing will be the same :(
Young Marcos Alfaro Well, Weikath was just as much the spirit as Hansen was. If it wasn´t for Weikath, Helloween would be history today. Kiske became and egocentric prick, and he wanted to make pop-music. Helloween lacked in sales and support from their fans, so Weikath sacked him, and then they got bigger than ever.
Mickey Holm You're clearly clueless actually haha, I bet you're one of those sorts who blame Kiske for their albums after the Keepers...even though he wrote the same amount of material on each as he did his first two albums (and Weikath still wrote the majority of Pink bubbles go ape and chameleon.)
You have to see things from two perspective....and meet in the middle, not just take one mans word for it. According to Kiske he LOVED being in Helloween until 89 when Kai Hansen left, he liked the music they made until that point as well. (He apparently worshiped Iron Maiden before joining the band...apparently had Eddie posters all over his room, he apparently threw away all of his metal stuff when he left Helloween...Either way he apparently didn't like Thrash as he thought it was 'dark' and 'negative'...which is why he didn't originally want to joint he band.....because of their more aggressive sound. You may have noticed that their material on the Keepers was SIGNIFICANTLY more Iron Maiden influence than their previous stuff.)
According to Kiske...Hansen sort of just miraculously left almost without warning...but he actually blames Weikath for that. He suggests that Weikath had been slowly pushing them away since 88.......and then when Kai left...well Weikath (according to Kiske.) took hold of the band basically completely, he was also very harsh on Ingo......apparently the manor in which he threw him out of the band was so harsh that Kiske actually blames Weikath for Ingo killing himself (although that's not really fair in my opinion....it's a fucking tragedy but Weikath didn't exactly tie the Noose.)
Kiske suggests that how Weikath dealt with Ingo as well as the band's musical directions are why he left. (and was later fired.) In kiske's words...he was ANGRY with heavy metal for a long time which is why he apparently did whatever he could to get away from it, he also for a long time held resentment even for Kai Hansen........but NOW has come back to making metal music as well as letting go of his resentment...even working with Kai (Although he has made immense with kai...he suggested that Kai will be judged for his actions, whatever that means......I guess he blames Kai for leaving.)
He Suggested that it was unlikely he would ever work with Weikath again...but not impossible, he also believes that Kai probably wouldn't work with Weikath again (although I'm sure they already did?)
Either way, Kiske according to HIM loved being in Helloween between 1987-89....So you can't really blame him for their newer musical direction. WHO LEFT THE BAND JUST BEFORE THE MUSIC CHANGED!!?!?!??!!? Kai Hansen, which basically proves that Kai was ultimately what made Helloween sound like Helloween.......WHICH IS WHY after he left and formed Gamma Ray,...THAT SOUND CONTINUED, where as Helloween still don't sound anything like they used to.
7dayspking
Trust me, i have done my research on this.
Yes, Kiske loved been in Helloween until 89. But Kiske only joined Helloween, because Weikath promised him to write more melodic songs, because Kai´s stuff was a bit too rough.
Due to illness, Weikath couldn´t contribute much to Keeper 1, so him and Kai decided, that Kai would master Keeper 1, and Weikath could then master Keeper 2.
So they start to work on Keeper 2, and though both Kai and Weikath compose songs to it, Weikath is the one arranging it, and has the last call. Kiske came to him with a couple of songs, but they were not meta enough. But Weikath accepted the songs, but on one condition: Weikath would rearrange them, so that they would fit more into the Helloween-style. Kiske, of course, didn´t like that, but accepted non the less. That way, the songs "We Got The Right" and "You Always Walk Alone" made it on the album.
The whole "feud" between Weikath and Kiske started there.
True, Kai left the band without warning. But that wasn´t because of Weikath, it was simply because Helloween had become too big for him. As Weikath said "Kai always had a more punk´ish feeling regarding the band, and the whole media-explosion that happened around Helloween, was not something he was interested in -so he leaves the band.
When Kai left, 50% of the bands leadership left with him. Now there was only Weikath, and he never had Kai leaving in the calculations for the bands future. But they got into a big feud with Noise records on 1990, which meant that they had to be on break for two years. During those two years, Kiske envisioned a new Helloween, with HIM as the leader and main-composer. Kiske saw the opportunity to gain influence through Kai´s departure. Weikath, on the other hand, was on an emotional roller coaster. He was mad at Kai for leaving the band, and therefor also leaving him alone with all the whole responsibility of the band + he had to deal with the case against Noise Records.
So while Kiske worked on new songs, Weikath had other things to deal with. But Kiske had found out how important he was for the band. As the lead-singer, he could have major influence. After the extreme success with Keeper 2, Weikath, now, new how important Kiske was, so he would not go directly against him, in the working-process of their new album.
So Weikath let´s Kiske take the lead on Pink Bubbles, while he, himself, only co-writes one song on it. It ends up becoming a big failure, but Kiske is stubborn, and refuses to change the musical direction. Weikath knows that this cannot go on, but he don´t wanna risk Kiske leaving. So instead of confronting Kiske, he let him continue. Weikath tries to add more heaviness to the album, but even though "Giants" shows some of the old Helloween-style, it is overlooked by Kiske´s more progressive rock-songs.
The album-sales a dropping, and the fans are turning their backs on the band. So Weikath can only see one option: they have to get rid of Kiske. So he decides to talk to the rest of the band behind his back, and while both Groskopf and Grapow agree´s with Weikath´s decision, Ingo is against it. But democracy has spoken, so Weikath goes directly to Kiske, and tell him head on: You´re out.
Weikath is determined of saving the band, by any means necessary. Ingo has now become extremely unpredictable, and his sickness has gone from bad to worse, and was now affecting his ability to perform live. Weikath new what he had to do, so over a six hour-long phone call, he also sacked Ingo.
I have all this from Tommy Hansen (former Helloween-producer and friend), whom I know.
Now, I am not saying that Weikath is innocent in all this, because he isn´t. But he did what he had to do, in order to keep Helloween going. The reason that Hellowen is around today, is all Weikath. With Kiske, Helloween would´ve gone into oblivion. But of course, Weikath is to blame as well. He should have taken the lead as soon as Kai left. He Should´ve stood up to Kiske much earlier than he did, instead of letting things go SO far.
Regarding Ingo, that was indeed a tragedy, but an unavoidable one. Again, Weikath did what he had to do. Ingo was way too sick in his mind, and he was damaging Helloween. But Weikath never felt good about sacking Ingo. Weikath cried in the phone when he told him, because he new what could happen if Ingo was left totally alone. him getting fired from Helloween, could´ve been what pushed him through the edge, and Weikath was never the same after he committed his suicide. Weikath has always felt, that if someone were to blame, it was him. But sacking Ingo was a mutual decision within the band -but Weikath had taken it upon himself to lead Helloween back to greatness, so therefor, he had to be the one telling Ingo :/
Mickey Holm You clearly didn't read my comment at all....I was referring to what Kiske's view was...and I'm sure Kiske would know more about what HE FELT and HE WANTED than you or anyone else did, LET ALONE WEIKATH.....who I'm sure would more than happily twist thing around (just as Kiske would when referring to Weikath....both of them are probably full of shit when talking about each other.)
Kiske did ask for a more melodic Helloween....because he wanted Helloween to sound like IRON MAIDEN (who he pointed out were his favourite band before joining Helloween.)...and guess what? that is kind of what Helloween sounded like on the two Keepers albums...a mixture of Iron Maiden and the aggressive Speed/Thrash sound on their previous songs. Both We got the Right and You always walk alone were metal songs....just not aggressive Speed/Thrash songs like their other material......which again makes a lot of sense.
Kiske himself in one of the interviews I read suggested that Ingo had to be removed from the band because he wasn't able to perform....he blamed Weikath because ACCORDING TO KISKE, Weikath had been treating Ingo poorly well before Ingo was kicked out of the band (Kiske also suggested Ingo was struggling well before Kiske or Ingo were removed from the band....and that him being removed was a long time coming, he just didn't like the manor in which the others treated him BEFORE that point....or how they STOPPED supporting him after he was removed from the band, HE WAS LEFT ALONE.)
Helloween's pieces on Pink Bubbles go ape were still heavy metal songs......they were LESS MELODIC if anything than the songs on Keepers (and more generic Speed metal.) Which wouldn't make sense if Kiske had written all of it (I'm not even going to read the who composed them but I bet Kiske wrote BOTH 'Kids of the century' and 'Someone' crying' as both sound like old helloween songs.). Most of the actual songwriting is ACCORDING TO MOST SOURCES from Grapow, Kiske and Weikath.....all three of them contributed. Kiske did not write the whole album...Grapow and Weikath actually had as much input as Kiske did.........CHAMELEON is a different story though....Kiske only had MINIMAL input on Chameleon, most of the writing was down again by Grapow and Weikath.
After Kiske and Ingo were fired.....THEIR SOUND DID NOT SHIFT BACK......their material after that point while still being quite serious......didn't really shift much stylistically (Well not from Pink Bubbles go Ape.....there are however differences between it and Chameleon.)
The point I'm making is the SOUND ON THE KEEPERS ALBUM....was not Weikath's....hence why THAT SOUND WAS NEVER HEARD AGAIN in Helloween's music. Weikath never really played Melodic guitar passages or solos, KAI HANSEN ALWAYS DID (In fact Weikath seemed to fuck up most of the Clean guitar sections live.....he sounded like a cat scratching a chalkboard.)
That Melodic Sound in Helloween's keeper albums was all Kiske, Kai and Ingo (Mainly Kai's guitar.).....which is why GAMMA RAY continued that Melodic sound....where as Helloween did not after Kai left.
Apart from that, I never suggested Kai left because of Weikath.....it was Kiske whom did. He suggested Weikath started slowly pushing for control of the band since the FIRST Keepers album was written....and he believes that is why Kai left.
Either way......I disagree with the idea that Weikath should have taken control sooner....because he did on Chameleon and it was in my opinion their worst album at the time. IN FACT I don't really like ANY of their albums after the Keepers releases (I don't hate them....I just don't love them.)....EXCEPT a few songs on Pink Bubbles go ape (although I wish they were more Melodic.)
I'd prefer listen to Gamma Ray than newer helloween (I actually really like Gamma Ray.) I never really liked Weikath's helloween......where as I liked KAI'S (from Walls of Jericoche to Keepers part 2.)
Can you see why I might perceive it the way I do now? I don't think Weikath 'saved' Helloween....I think Kai ruined it by leaving.....without Kai's sound....Helloween just wasn't my preference anymore. (even their debut album, their demo and their release on the Compilation/Split release 'Death metal' had those epic melodies that I loved about early Helloween....their newer stuff didn't.)
6:49 omg!!!!
MY 19~25 HERO KISKE , 25~30 HERO CROCOP , 35NOW TOO
guuuuuuudddd
Kasi pecahhhh
I used to love when they'd bounce balls through the audience. But I was always too messed up to actually catch one and pass it on.
Como olvidar cuando Brad Pitt cantó con los Helloween
Sorry Bruce, Kiske is my guy.
Keyboard??
@apati80 thanx for the great videos dude
@champfodz1212 Roland Grapow, Hansen Founded GammaRay on 1990 I think
ca c'est du solo 🤘
This sounds better than the bland power metal they cling to now.
Kai's song indeed
The only negative vote was surely Andy Deris
Lol, Michael had a little Dana Carvey/Garth thing going back when he had hair. 😂
the beginning of this was funny XD
Andy Deris and Michael kiske is a legend! and They are both a very great vocalist! if you judge kiske is better than deris, or deris a better than kiske, that is very stupid thing!
It's Helloween not only Kiske...why fucking write Kiske continuously?
Stamatis Katsikas because without him it's not the same band. Any of the other members can be replaced and they'll still be amazing but without Kiske it's a totally different band.
This is not excuse my friend...
It's Helloween or nothing.
Stamatis Katsikas sorry but Helloween with Deris is not the same band as Helloween with Kiske. Not saying they're bad or Deris is bad. Kiske is just the best.
im so used to see kiske as a shaved head and seeing this i feel like if he was wearing a wig (not the case, obviously)
God's screaming @ 7:32
ultimo recital del finado INGO cierto??
Ingo Schwichtenberg vs Dave Lombardo ?????
Too small a stage for the band greatness
Wow did they fuck up the solo at 3:12.
Rob Halford rules the mic! No one can touch his vocals not even Dickenson.......
Mike, I miss your hair