BLADE 330s,CHAT,HINTS AND TIPS
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Well as a result to the messages Iv'e been getting on my channel regarding the Blade 330s, I thought I would fly it and have a chat regarding the issues that can affect this Heli!! I feel very sorry for people that buy this Heli and have all these problems, so hopefully this video and the others on my channel will help them to sort their Helie's out. I have included a section in this video where I explain some important tips in getting the 330s to perform well, It's a long video sorry but then I had a lot to say!! and if it helps just one person to get their Heli flying correctly then it will be a worthwhile job, I will add a link in this description to the attitude trim video, as I felt that doing this to my Heli made the biggest difference to the way that it performed.
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Great too see you guys back in 2022. Thanks you for putting this informative vid together especially in those cold conditions 👍👍
Thanks for watching Bren 😄👍
I was always wondering how you checked CG on a chopper! Now I know 👍 looks like a lot of birds hanging around the flying field.. great stuff Ian thank you!
Yes it was like a scene from Hitchcock's the Birds Lol thanks for watching and commenting Jerry 😄👍
I wish they would have sorted these out before showing them. I was determined like you I knew I could figure it out eventually as I have flown many years. So I kept rebuilding and trying you posted the video about using expo and helped me a lot with your videos on the 330. A newcomer may have given up the hobby if this was there first step into collective pitch.
Yes as I said in the video I feel very sorry for the people that get lumbered with a Heli that they can't fly!! Thanks for watching and commenting 😄👍
Congrats on becoming a grandad. That must be so exciting for you Ian 🤗 and well done with this video. Putting what you learned from getting your Blade 330s flying well into one video is very helpful 👍 Glad you had a good start to 2022 although freezing cold 👍🥶
Thank you Carl 😄👍
Well done, Ian. You make very good points about advice not being a replacement for personal experience, and the beneficial learning process that comes with it. You were flying it well, you landed spot on dead center on that tiny helipad! I'm getting another 230s (V3). My V2 was poor in idle up modes with the RTF radio. But I'll soon have a DX6e for my recently acquired Maule M7, so I can use that to properly trim out the helicopter in idle up modes I think.
Oh yes it will be very tuneable with your new radio!! Thanks for watching and commenting 😀👍
First thing is first...congratulations on your first grand child Isabelle!! That is awesome! I enjoyed your longer video Ian. I'm not a heli guy but I understand wanting to help everybody you can...we only intended one Bison video, and we ended up doing two more to try and help those we recognized were struggling. You are right too about experience level having a lot to do with it...so many want to blame the plane/heli when to be honest a lot of times it is user error, but they don't have the experience to know it. I like your approach...very informative. The antenna/range test info was spot on...using that telemetry to see how it is performing. Most Spektrum users don't know what fades, frame losses, and holds even are...or where in the TX to go to check it. I think you really dove in to this Ian...I'm sure this info will help some 330 users. Shame the RTF version gives you just enough control to crash. Really a great video. Cheryl is a trooper to be in that cold with you...what a great gal!
Thank you Adam, yes the 330s I get so many messages about this Heli, always the same issue!! I discovered that it's caused by the factory settings in the Gyro!! They put trim on to compensate for the torque of the main blades!! But it's to much and causes the Heli to drift out of control, the funny thing is some of them then lecture me on the physics of a model Heli, I normally reply well my Heli is flying well it's you that have got the issues Lol But I guess that's the nature of the RUclips beast!! Expert Trolls I call them Lol At the end if the day if it helps one viewer I'll be happy as Horizon don't seem to be that bothered about the issues with this Heli, yes where would we be without the girls Lol they add so much to our channels!! They really are troopers!! Thanks for watching and commenting Adam 😄👍
Great video as always mate, I noticed on your attitude trim settings video as far as I could see your not running the latest flybarless firmware, that's what the guy from horizon said causes all the issues on these Helis as it has a bug. I ordered my spektrum cable yesterday so I'll be updating it all tomorrow if it arrives. Might be worth a shot, the guy was adamant that's what causes the issues so may be worth a try :) I'll let u know how mine goes.
Hi Harley, I updated the firmware and then I couldnt get my receiver to bind at all so I put it back to the original firmware!! The same thing happened on my other 2 FC6250HX Gyros as well!! But they might have sorted it now so I'll see how you get on and then if it works I'll give it a go 😄👍
@@IansRCExploits still got a problem! Check out my latest video ian. Totally starting to hate this Heli! 😒
Yes mate just watched it and left a comment👍
The first one I had had a bad elevator gyro. I exchanged it and this one's flying pretty good.
That's good to here!! Your one of the lucky ones then!! So many people have issues including myself 😄👍
Congrats on your new member of the family, I saw the pics on FB, pretty little girl, first grand child is surely special, our first is going to be next June, oh, nice flying in the breeze by the way 👍
Thanks Cliff, yes she's a little cutie Lol thanks for watching and commenting 😄👍
I wish I'd seen your video before I tried to fly mine. I fly fixed wing and wanted to try helis. The 330 looked a sensible size to start on. I'm also a fullscale heli pilot of >30yrs. On takeoff it rolled over and the pitch change links bent and a servo reversed. Now being repaired at Logic RC. I now have the 230 and it's a better size to start on but it suffers from exactly the same drifting issues as the 330 which resulted in a broken tail boom when I ran out of cyclic control to stop it drifting left. Thanks for this video
Hi Tommy, that's a shame that you didn't see the video!! With the 230s have you followed the manual and carried out a trim flight, it cured my drift on my 230s and I've had no problems for a couple of years!! With the 330s I found by adjusting the attitude settings and adding some positive expo you can stop the leaning around and the drift as well, feel free to drop me a message if your still having problems and I will gladly help if I can!! Thanks for watching and commenting on this video 😀👍
Here's the trim flight I did Tommy on my 230s
ruclips.net/video/weWAg_4ibmM/видео.html
@@IansRCExploits I have followed the manual and I did do a trim flight and I'll do another. I realised that it's best to let it initialise rather than rushing to refit the canopy. I will try adding some EXPO.
Yes Sir, I always make sure the Heli is as level as possible when connecting the battery and I leave it go through the initialization procedure 😀👍
Happy Grandad days to you..ive crashed 2 330s helis..rebuilt..one is awesome..one is twitchy..i think you can "knock these silly"..ive also had a fly away..dont know where it ever wound up..hope no damage to human or animal or property..hunted fo it..330s is a wierd beast..totally agree with adding some expo...happy days my friend
Thank you Jon, yes apart from all it's strange traits it appears to be very robust!! I wish they would sort that Gyro out though!! Thanks for watching and commenting 😀👍
I wish the throttle was more.."analog"..like a 230s..in my opinion the best collective pitch bird ever..i get the extreme 3d performance and active tail rotor but like i said..twitchy..i keep tweeking expos and rates trying to get to sports car instead of dirt bike..thanks my friend
Hey Ian. Congrats on your news and all the best for the New year. As Ian knows I had the same problems with my 330 and in the end lost all faith in it. With Ians help I replaced the original unit with a Beast X. This was a very simple, expensive and permanent solution to the problem. The original unit causes me no problems at all now because it sits in the bottom of my toolbox 😁. I now have complete faith in the Heli and enjoy flying it every time I take it out. I own the 150, 230 and 330 and can't believe they all come from the same company. The 230 is far better in every way but there's just something about the 330 that makes it my favourite. Anyway cheers Ian, hope you have a great 2022
Happy New year Paul, well it seems that Horizon Hobby are blaming the firmware!! They told one of my subscribers all he needs to do is upgrade the Gyro's firmware as it has a bug!! And yet another Subscriber told me yesterday that Horizon have had his 330s for a year!! That's hell of a long time to upgrade firmware😖
Cold hands and wind, was still great flights in my eyes.have a great week ahead Ian 👍🏻
Thank you Chris 😄👍
Hi Ian…. Fabulous video…. Totally loaded with so much information … absolutely brilliant … I would really like to progress onto a 300 class Heli when funds permit!! Did some low level hover tests with the little Blade 150 and flys great … will wait to go to the club field for a proper fly… Great video, great talk over and information and lovely filming … Thanks .. Michael
Thank you Michael😄👍
Nice Flight Ian,
Beautiful heli, I still love the 330s!
Congratulations grandfather, haha! 👍
I still watch your 330S movies, and wait for your first looping 😉
Greetings Patrick
Thanks Patrick!! Ooh I don't think i will ever loop a Heli, I'm not brave enough!! Thanks for watching and commenting 😄👍
Hi Ian Cheryl hope your both well. I started on helis my advice
1 COAXIAL
2 FIXED PITCH
3 COLLECTIVE PITCH
THERE NOT EASY TO FLY... DEFO TIME ON A SIMULATOR WONT BE WASTED.... OH AND WATCH OUT FOR THE DREADED TOILET BOWL
Stay well
Brian
Bloody Hell I can actually read your message!! Yes Helie's are very difficult, that's what makes them such a challenge for me!! Yes we're both fine thanks, but it was bloody freezing this morning 🥶🥶
@@IansRCExploits hi Ian what I do now is leave a message Stay on your channel till I see a response then I can leave that's when it disapears. With helis you've got to be 100%on them sticks they DONT GLIDE.. DONT HOLD ALTITUDE LIKE QUADS. AND ARE VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO CROSS WINDS.... ESPECIALLY ON LANDING
Yes very true Brian!! I know one thing they can do well, crash 🤣😂
@@IansRCExploits unfortunately there not as easy to repair as a foamy just out of curiosity your tail rota is it belt or driveshaft I know that the belts are continuously stretching and always need sub trim
Yes it's a belt!! They've got a lot better the last few years and seem to be a lot more reliable 😄👍
Great video mate.
Thanks James, and thanks for watching and commenting 😀👍
Fortunately no more crashes in the school!
My Blade 330 RTF has been at the model shop for 1 year now.
The send me 3 new heli's, but everytime the same problems.
😭😭😭
In the shop for a year!! Why so long Patrick? I bet your really annoyed😖
Thanks for sharing Ian great advice an tips
Thanks for watching Gareth 😄👍
I must be lucky- after dialing in the pitch and roll in stability
there's no bad behavior or tail wag
my trex 470lp has tail wag tho need to solve that
What I did on the 470lp was give a bit more pitch to the bottom blade!! Helped a bit, I'll send you the video if I can find it
ruclips.net/video/o2ee2VDAENg/видео.html
This is what I followed 😀👍
@@IansRCExploits yes I have the counter thrust well balanced at servo 90- when I test rate mode the heli stays straight
I may load a bit more just to test this idea
thx!
I have queried in another video of yours so no need to duplicate answers
Like i said on your other vid, my maiden when i spun it up it was all over the place, when i got it up it was hard to control and crashed and caused alot of damage. I watched all your vids after the fact and wished i watched first. Gyro, swash plate not level, all the problems you had all in a matter of a few mins and mine went down in less than 15 secs of flight. Im very pissed off and now i got to send back to HH and i prob wont have this copter back for a year.
Aww I'm very sorry to here this has happened to you as well as many other people that have contacted me through my RUclips channel, I had many issues with my 330s mainly to do with the Gyro which caused the Heli to drift very badly!! And like you I had a bad crash, recently a Subscriber contacted HH and they told him to do a firmware upgrade to the Gyro!! But it still performed the same and he crashed too!! I have lost count now, of how many people have had the same issue, and have contacted me!! HH have pretty much ignored the fact that all these people have had issues and In some cases have offered no compensation. I have got my one flying OK now but it took me months to sort out, if you look for my video 330s Attitude trim setting, I explain how I sorted my Heli out 😀👍
@@IansRCExploits bud as I said they dont say do a firmware update or anything about balancing the swash plate, or attitude trim in the manual its just straight fwd and there are alot of issues with this copter and HH doesnt care and thats why im in a issue with them and I will let you know how I make out bc I dont settle for crap and I know like on my planes and jets there are settings that need to be changed but this copter has issues and they just sell it without firmware or proper settings!!
Is this more stable than the 230s smart rtf? Which one flies better?
If your new to flying Helie's then I would say start with the 230s!! The 330s can be a right mixed bag, saying that people also have issues with the 230s!! In my experience the 230s that I fly which is not the smart version, has performed faultlessly from new!! I did have to do a trim flight when the Heli was new!! But it has been perfect ever since 😀👍
@@IansRCExploits thanks for the reply Ian. Ive seen many reviews about the 330 s having issues with stability and requiring a lot of adjustments ro get it flying right. I have some experience flying fpv quads in air mode and can do a hover and a figure 8 with blade nano s3 and 120s in stability mode. Will the 230s still be something you recommend? I dont want to get something I will quickly outgrow.
I think you have to think in terms of cost!! In the early stages of learning to fly a Heli you are going to have minor spills and sometimes a crash!! The 230s would be a lot cheaper to repair than the 330s!! Also if you get a bad 330s you won't spend much time flying it as they can be pretty bad, I have been contacted by so many people who have had bad experiences with the 330s!! The problem with these Blade Helie's is they are marketed for beginners!! But once you take them out of SAFE mode they are set up very aggressively, and capable of full 3D flight, although the 230s is small it runs on a 3s 1000mah lipo and trust me it's pretty fast, so as I said it comes down to cost of repair and how much time the Heli will be flying!! Inevitably you will out grow what ever Heli you get, but I still love flying my 230s 😀👍
Have you figured your issues out? If not let me know and I can probably help.
Yes I have thanks David 😀👍
@@IansRCExploits The 330 shouldn't be sold as a RTF unless the cable to access the forward programming is included. After I ordered the programming cable and downloaded the software I was able to make the necessary adjustments.
Well it's good that you have sorted your 330 out David, my one was the BNF version!! Mine was flying awesome but a few weeks back I input some figures incorrectly into the throttle curve and it went haywire!! But I realised what I had done wrong and put it right, it's flying well now again 😀👍
@@IansRCExploits Glad you finally got it cause it is an expensive model to fly badly! Your attitude adjustment video is where I started figuring my drift issues out. Thanks!!!!
Well not buying that one. Too many issues. Been eyeing up the Blade 150.
The 150s is a brilliant little Heli and flies much bigger than what it is!! I have a video on here of me flying it in 20mph winds 😄👍
ruclips.net/video/BcyfZ_7D1ts/видео.html
@@IansRCExploits Just watched it. You seem very comfortable flying the 150S. Much less tense than any other heli. Bit like me with my XK K110.
Yes I find the bigger they are the more intimidating they become 😖
The 330s I just bought 2 days ago it was broke when I received it an horizon hobbies won't even get back with me this helicopter from all reviews is a pos!!!!
Aww no!! What was wrong with it? When my one crashed I contacted Horizon who said that I had to take it back to the shop I bought if from, I did and then they took it to a dealer that were linked to Horizon!! But your right Horizon aren't very good at sorting issues out for customers, over the last couple of years I have been contacted by lots of people having problems with this Heli 😒