The Surprising Link Between All Chronic Diseases with Dr. William Davis

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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Комментарии • 157

  • @MI40MuscleIntelligence
    @MI40MuscleIntelligence  Год назад +25

    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro to cardiologist and gut microbiome expert, Dr. William Davis.
    3:00 Dr. Davis' background; what he discovered as an internist and cardiologist.
    9:00 The surprising tie between various chronic illnesses...
    13:30 A special offer for listeners from PaleoValley.
    16:00 SIBO and endotoxemia.
    22:00 SIBO vs IBS and what causes each.
    28:00 This ONE microbe with amazing benefits...
    35:00 Other beneficial microbes that live on the surface of vegetables.
    44:00 The l. rheuteri yogurt recipe.
    50:00 Replacing beneficial microbes, instead of using antibiotics, for SIBO.
    57:30 An example of daily nutrition for optimization of longevity and health.

    • @sandyjones1014
      @sandyjones1014 10 месяцев назад +1

      Wouldn't an overload of ONE type of microbe interfere with the balance of microbes one should have?

    • @clarereynolds9607
      @clarereynolds9607 7 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting point.

  • @kokomoko6162
    @kokomoko6162 5 месяцев назад +32

    WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYY can’t the majority of MD’s be like this kind well spoken humanitarian. THANK YOU, DR.DAVIS, and interviewer!!!
    5 stars guys🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

    • @stephennelson1687
      @stephennelson1687 4 месяца назад +2

      They want WEALTH.

    • @micheleh5269
      @micheleh5269 4 месяца назад

      Yes years ago I bought some of Amos Miller's raw camel milk that seemed to get my autistic grandson talking and eye contact for a while. Obviously Amos been shut down now. But did anyone know which bacteria, is it Reuters that's so beneficial?

    • @HermanGarrett-xd1nl
      @HermanGarrett-xd1nl Месяц назад

      Why can't more doctors be like this? Because they are in it FOR THE MONEY. If they CURE someone they LOSE a patient to milk for money.

  • @walterjeworski4618
    @walterjeworski4618 Год назад +68

    Been using the L-Reuteri for almost a year now, does everything he says it does. It’s fantastic. Got my family and friends on it with similar result. The instant pot & yogurt makers don’t work well, the sous vide is the only way to go. Save your time & money by getting a sous vide from the get go

    • @michaelstarr7948
      @michaelstarr7948 Год назад

      i've had good success with the "surteck" yogurt maker ( amazon, $42 )...it does have an exact numerical temperature setting.

    • @dianasolfest7237
      @dianasolfest7237 Год назад +7

      Can you give some examples of foods that do not do well in insta- pot - I was about to be able to afford the smallest one, As I would only mostly need for myself & possibly a guest. And your comment just introduced me to the sous vide. I typed that in RUclips search bar & wow, tons of info, just blew me away that I never heard of it before.

    • @evangelieabs
      @evangelieabs 11 месяцев назад +5

      can u pls explain how it is done sous vide,thks

    • @cswann8
      @cswann8 11 месяцев назад +25

      I bought a yogurt maker from Amazon that includes 8 little glass jars. I've done 2 batches now and both were just as Dr. Davis described. First batch had a little separation, second was smooth creamy yogurt. So the cheap yogurt makers absolutely work for this.

    • @joannwilliams3979
      @joannwilliams3979 11 месяцев назад +4

      Dont understand any of that

  • @michaelstarr7948
    @michaelstarr7948 Год назад +37

    Been on L-Reuteri for a month...enjoying the benefits the doc speaks of....some days eat little but the yogurt....some days eat almost a whole quart....upset stomach and diarehha once or twice...lots of good body changes and mental too....getting off sugar been tough, but still improvements....wanting to gain weight and muscle mass

    • @lorenesquires8825
      @lorenesquires8825 2 месяца назад +1

      Add L Coagulans and b bifidum bacterias to your daily routine. Per Gundry these are helpful for weight loss. I mixed one probiotic pill (opened it up and added to small amount of milk) of each with a scoop of inulin powder and stirred it into my reuteri yogurt. I haven't been hungry since my first serving. I find probiotic pills all work a lot better if I REHYDRATE the capsule contents and let them "wake up" a while before consuming them.

    • @eugeniebreida1583
      @eugeniebreida1583 2 месяца назад

      @@lorenesquires8825 But he wants to Gain weight, as do I …

    • @skipmcelhenny7325
      @skipmcelhenny7325 20 дней назад +2

      Likewise. I’ve been on the yogurt for 6 months straight and have reaped many of the benefits as well, including muscle gains at 53. It’s so hard to eat only a half cup serving, as it tastes so good. Daily I probably eat around 1 cup to 1 and a quarter cups. My sleep has never been better, and even though I’m a man, I’m enjoying the explosion of dermal collagen like the ladies.

  • @crystalw.bishop1374
    @crystalw.bishop1374 Месяц назад +7

    I bought the Luvele yogurt maker here in Canada for like $130 and it’s the best purchase I’ve ever made. The thing is always running! L-Reuteri is in my daily routine and I LOVE it, and dr Davis for helping me with my health autonomy! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @garyssimo
    @garyssimo 8 месяцев назад +11

    I am learning to become a gut ologist.
    I agree.....its fascinating and the only real way to health.
    One bad thing for me?
    Im spending a fortune on shaving gear!
    wtf?
    Im on his L reuteri yogurt and now I need to shave every day at 71.
    The last few years I could go 3 days between shaving.
    I know exactly why.......higher testosterlne now!
    Also vivid (usually) dreams every night, and a little stronger in the gym.
    Ohhh one more....chronic shyness is mostly gone. Social boldness vs extreme introversion.
    Thank you good Doctor!

  • @gailclay4905
    @gailclay4905 9 месяцев назад +8

    We love you, thank you for not fearing to speak the TRUTH!!! Truth rules🔥🍎♥️🌹🤗

  • @kathrynwells5936
    @kathrynwells5936 10 месяцев назад +12

    May be the best interview I've ever watched. He's so thorough and enthusiastic. BRILLIANT!!!!! Has answers that work. Mama' s milk is the answer

  • @marilynvillanueva7333
    @marilynvillanueva7333 10 месяцев назад +5

    ❤❤❤this is One of the fundamental fact of how to recognize on how tò faced and take care of our physical body health condition . I salute and honour those doctors who are revealing the Truth and do their Mission in this sinful deceitful world .

  • @maureenmathieu
    @maureenmathieu 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you so much for the microbiome information. Dr. Davis is ahead of his time. So easy to make L Reutier, and so good for you! Been having this for a few months now my husband and I feel great! 5 stars .

  • @northmantru6236
    @northmantru6236 Год назад +13

    I’ve been thinking that Ben and Dr Davis were a natural fit for collaboration. Reuteri yogurt is a game changer.

  • @sophieamirian6726
    @sophieamirian6726 Месяц назад +2

    VERY VERY IMPRESSED BY HIS ANONYMOUS KNOWLEDGE ❤ WISH HAD MORE DOCTORS LIKE HIM ❤ GOD BLESS

  • @stevenlay3772
    @stevenlay3772 Год назад +9

    major piece. knew a certain amount about fermentation and have cultured a number of things on going, but i did not know about reuteri. and it's diy!!! shared and will put information into action soon. thanks, ben.

  • @SchmittycocoPop
    @SchmittycocoPop Год назад +22

    Excellent info. Such a brilliant Dr. I hope they don't make him out to be a quack because he's challenging the medical establishment.

  • @superfun7380
    @superfun7380 2 месяца назад +1

    Best interview with Dr Davis that I’ve seen!!!👏👏👏

  • @neilhansen49
    @neilhansen49 Год назад +3

    Super questions Ben... complex yet right to the point. Bravo

  • @micko4463
    @micko4463 9 месяцев назад +3

    Ben thank you for a great video, I did think there was one point missed that I saw on another video, that is if your gut is on a poor diet you would have to take these everyday as they can not thrive and reproduce in a negative environment and die, whereas in a healthy environment they thrive and become a permanent group in your micro biome as with our ancestors, so the right biome is necessary ie prebiotic for their food etc, thanks again.

  • @quake2u
    @quake2u 10 месяцев назад +4

    Medical doctor can't or won't help me so I have to keep trying the beliefs or treatment I find here. Dr. Davis's ideas are very interesting, I'm definitely gone to give this a try. I've already made the yogurt, it was easy and came out great.

  • @jewsusjewtube1880
    @jewsusjewtube1880 9 месяцев назад +3

    Bless these men!

  • @tonyfrattaroli7371
    @tonyfrattaroli7371 Год назад +2

    Thanks Ben. I greatly appreciate the information.

  • @Flow_State1991
    @Flow_State1991 2 месяца назад +2

    L. reuteri - #4675 (Biogaia)
    L. Gesseri - Biothin #bnr17 (Dr Mercola)
    Bacillus Coagulans - (Shiff digestive advantage)
    Please confirm these are the correct ingredients & source.
    Thankyou

  • @azdhan
    @azdhan 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great info! Curious as to Dr Davis’ views on hardcore carnivore diet that seems to be supported by a truckload of anecdotal information. However, I have seen consensus from other gut researchers and specialists that eliminating all fibre and mass die off of the diversity of gut bacteria in exchange for potential inflammatory only gut bacteria from an all meat diet can be deteimental for long term health

    • @cherylmcduff5388
      @cherylmcduff5388 3 месяца назад +3

      I would be so interested in his opinion on that. Lots of people on carnivore getting rid of autoimmune conditions

    • @cherylmcduff5388
      @cherylmcduff5388 3 месяца назад

      Where are the studies that we can look at

  • @maryacojido4268
    @maryacojido4268 4 дня назад +1

    The higher end instant pot has custom temperature control and makes fantastic super sticky natto...What about using that instant pot?

  • @user-gm3eb1zc9b
    @user-gm3eb1zc9b 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, great information ❤

  • @andre2e242
    @andre2e242 2 дня назад +1

    Great information and talk. Can someone indicate a website to buy yogurt starter with L-reuteri? I live in England. Also, someone has mentioned SOUS VIDE - what is that? Thanks, Elena

    • @catistrolling7333
      @catistrolling7333 19 часов назад

      That is a stick that you put in boiling water. You put your meat in a bag but I can’t think of the word right now. So then you put the meat in the bag and then the water and the sous cooks the meat.

  • @michaelhimes8778
    @michaelhimes8778 3 месяца назад +2

    I noticed the first batch of L-reuteri from BioGaia has an off flavor because the tablets have a cough drop mental flavor which tastes weird in dairy. I suspect the second batch will not have that.

  • @richieheetebrij8189
    @richieheetebrij8189 2 месяца назад

    Priceless wisdom!!

  • @stevebryan2710
    @stevebryan2710 10 месяцев назад +9

    We need to pay more attention to more frequent bowel movements , so the fecal matter does not stay in us too long.

  • @inthevortex-de1rh
    @inthevortex-de1rh 11 месяцев назад +4

    This is pure gold❤❤❤

  • @SnowAngelfish
    @SnowAngelfish 9 месяцев назад +3

    The only thing i disagree with the doctor on is that if grains. Certain ancient grains appear to be good for health and proven with studies to actually lower inflamation! I have not seen dr williams discuss this. I would like to see more human studies on consumption of ancient grains and inflamation.

    • @teresaoftheandes6279
      @teresaoftheandes6279 8 месяцев назад +5

      I've been baking with ancient einkorn, still causes me problems although not quite as bad, but still enough for me to walk away.

    • @AJ-ku9jz
      @AJ-ku9jz 4 месяца назад

      Which ancient grains? I'd like to try

    • @stephennelson1687
      @stephennelson1687 4 месяца назад

      @@AJ-ku9jzeinkorn

    • @chrismacfly6122
      @chrismacfly6122 2 месяца назад

      Grains are bad, end of story. Cut them out and see your inflammation. Dissapear

  • @enchemin5652
    @enchemin5652 9 месяцев назад +4

    It could be hypothethized that divorce rate started increasing with the increased use of antibiotics. People looking to their significant other to provide for the proper amount of serotonin their microbiome I was unable to …

  • @stanjz
    @stanjz 3 месяца назад +1

    Hello. Where can I find the stats to back up the claim around minute 21 that 50% of the people in the US have fatty liver? Thanks.

    • @lorimav
      @lorimav 4 дня назад

      I've heard that from Dr. Lustig also. I don't know where those statistics came from. Nevertheless our livers must be in trouble because the highest number in the reference range for ALT has risen considerably over the years. The upper limit has risen from 25 to 40. Look at the rates of obesity and diabetes how they have increased sharply. It's not the only risk factor but I don't think it's surprising that fatty liver and those on liver transplant lists have risen so high.

  • @srm6366
    @srm6366 Год назад +11

    I feel like mycotoxins are one of the leading cause to disrupt the gut it’s more common than people think there in our environments, homes, HVAC systems, etc. This is was leading to most peoples sibo and sifo

    • @cg1811
      @cg1811 10 месяцев назад +4

      I agree. Been dealing with it personally. The mold destroys the immune system and allows these other factors to come into play

    • @GutsyExecutiveCoach
      @GutsyExecutiveCoach 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes exactly! It’s what I’ve seen in 7 years of practice and now experiencing myself.

  • @robertcoffey1636
    @robertcoffey1636 4 месяца назад +1

    Will the sugars in fruits cause small particle LDL ? Thanks

  • @mariemonn8912
    @mariemonn8912 5 месяцев назад +1

    So many taking about this

  • @lisad8881
    @lisad8881 4 дня назад

    But how to get off PPI?????It's been close to impossible!!..there needs to be more guidance on that!.Have tried to ween numerous times!.Anyone succeeded?

  • @Arshia335
    @Arshia335 3 дня назад

    I am on keto diet for almost 2 years now ..not taking any medicine for diabetes!

  • @joannedorne4134
    @joannedorne4134 8 месяцев назад +2

    What is Drs opinion on covid jab? Did he take it??

  • @robertwood9984
    @robertwood9984 10 месяцев назад +4

    At time 4:22 Atrial Fibrillation is mentioned being affected by the biome.
    What can used to help the afib?
    Thanks!

  • @jamesherried9269
    @jamesherried9269 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's surprising that Dr. Davis seems to bevso accepting of the ingestion of alcohol, since Ive often read and heard that alcohol (in large amounts) disrupts the gut microbiome.

    • @mariemonn8912
      @mariemonn8912 5 месяцев назад +1

      I did not hear him accept alcohol use..he said the high sugar could give you sibo within 3 days if consuming every day

  • @mariemonn8912
    @mariemonn8912 4 месяца назад +1

    where is the link for the Sugar Shift he talks about

    • @AJ-ku9jz
      @AJ-ku9jz 4 месяца назад +1

      If you find out please let me know

    • @maggiebraunrn
      @maggiebraunrn Месяц назад

      Amazon has it

  • @LauraB.335
    @LauraB.335 3 месяца назад +2

    The underlying cause of all chronic disease: metabolic disease/insulin resistance.

  • @nehadhanda592
    @nehadhanda592 7 месяцев назад

    They say high fat dairy is estrogenic and increases cancer risk. Is having this half and half yogurt daily safe for women? Thank you

    • @benjamindecker4056
      @benjamindecker4056 2 месяца назад +2

      Who’s they? “They” could be trying to trick you.

  • @sarojinilutchman4704
    @sarojinilutchman4704 10 месяцев назад +1

    Does dr. See patients?

  • @debbicarmody777
    @debbicarmody777 5 месяцев назад +1

    So I wonder about virus's... can they be eradicated too? Like simplex virus? And is there a specific strain for those that work?

  • @barbaraferron7994
    @barbaraferron7994 4 месяца назад

    I have very little energy can I take a lreuteri supplement instead of making yogurt?

    • @chrismacfly6122
      @chrismacfly6122 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm going to try them, they sell them on amazon

    • @Gengh13
      @Gengh13 20 дней назад +1

      The problem is that the supplements have only a small fraction of what you get from a tablespoon of the yogurt.

  • @wiltonpt1
    @wiltonpt1 5 месяцев назад +1

    The problem is that precious information on habits and food is tainted by wrong perspectives that please the researcher. Alcohol is and will ever be a neuro toxin and has destroyed many lives and families.

  • @lmaculate5784
    @lmaculate5784 10 месяцев назад +1

    if we eat the L. Reuteri and/or SIBO yogurt, when do we stop? is there a danger if we keep eating these Lactobacillus yogurt that our gut will be over populated with them, hence causing other problem. Is too many of one type of bug, although a good bug, can cause some other unknown problem later?

    • @stephennelson1687
      @stephennelson1687 4 месяца назад +2

      If you stop, the problems will reoccur according to Donna Schwenk.

    • @robinschroth7413
      @robinschroth7413 2 месяца назад

      ​@@stephennelson1687she has quite a few videos on RUclips.. very good information

  • @williambuckley6128
    @williambuckley6128 10 месяцев назад

    Is raw milk unpasteurized Kiefer an option?

  • @kathrynwells5936
    @kathrynwells5936 10 месяцев назад +3

    PS. I drink and culture rW milk

  • @milliepuryear5335
    @milliepuryear5335 Год назад

    I don’t understand he needs to break it down a little more for me that’s for sure

  • @ClaimTheDensity
    @ClaimTheDensity 8 месяцев назад +1

    Earth is the planet of reproduction! It's not really a surprise, from that perspective, that these biological procedures lead to great health!✅️✅️✅️🏆🏆🏆

  • @priusdwelling504
    @priusdwelling504 11 месяцев назад +8

    Dr. Davis’s website is only for high income people. He does not serve the low income people who need him the most.

    • @brooklyngal66
      @brooklyngal66 10 месяцев назад +2

      There is definitely a little bit of an expense in buying the yogurt maker and the 3 strains and inulin. About $80-100.

    • @marlettaengland1513
      @marlettaengland1513 10 месяцев назад +11

      That’s a bunch of crap. You don’t need to be wealthy to be healthy.

    • @ScottChristensenabc
      @ScottChristensenabc 10 месяцев назад +11

      He is one of the few experts who provides a “make your own” solution. Try it. Once you’ve bought your yogurt maker/sous vid…your weekly supply of yogurt will cost you a quart of cream and a couple cents for resistant starch.

    • @marlettaengland1513
      @marlettaengland1513 10 месяцев назад +8

      This guy is the real deal and provides lot of options to help you make your own healthy foods. I love the fact that he’s a medical doctor who doesn’t promote grains and the traditional standard American diet.

    • @jpl0202
      @jpl0202 10 месяцев назад +3

      Making foods cheap with chemicals is what got us unhealthy to begin with. It’s going to cost more to buy the unadulterated foods to correct the sins if the BIG food conglomerates.

  • @davidmarham9272
    @davidmarham9272 2 месяца назад +1

    Everything he says sounds like the same results. People get from going on a clean carnivore dit.

  • @user-ps1ge9xi7g
    @user-ps1ge9xi7g Месяц назад

    Gotta get you on Bobby Kennedy's team!! Getting America healthy again is a top priority!

  • @robdogsurf
    @robdogsurf 11 месяцев назад +1

    Where’s the time stamps? It’s almost 2024. Please hire someone to help you. I don’t have time to watch all these videos. I feel sick and like a lot of us we don’t have time to watch a video that potentially does or doesn’t address our issues 😢. You have an expert please help your customers who are patients 🙏… if it’s helpful / relevant I will watch it completely. Thank you 🙏

    • @MI40MuscleIntelligence
      @MI40MuscleIntelligence  11 месяцев назад +3

      @robdogsurf timestamps are in a comment that is pinned in this episode's comments.

  • @audreywalker6202
    @audreywalker6202 10 месяцев назад

    Is there a way to make a vegan version?

    • @grenierchantal159
      @grenierchantal159 10 месяцев назад +2

      You will find recipe online where coconut milk is used

    • @flocof1
      @flocof1 5 месяцев назад

      veganism is very unhealthy

  • @dlbdlb3919
    @dlbdlb3919 Год назад +5

    I'll tell my boss I have to spend 36 hours in the kitchen making yogurt and I can't travel around out of town making sales. Dr Davis needs to develop a product that fits into the real world.

    • @deepost2604
      @deepost2604 Год назад +20

      The 1/2 and 1/2 sits in the $35 yogurt maker for 36 hours while I go about my life. No, I don’t have to mind it. Might be the easiest thing in food prep.

    • @jlmitchell6324
      @jlmitchell6324 Год назад +12

      You start a batch in the morning before work and harvest it at the same time before bed the next day - it's a game-changer and worth the effort. You can also make several quarts at a time and not have to do it for over a week.

    • @dianasolfest7237
      @dianasolfest7237 Год назад

      ​@@deepost2604Could you suggest a decent yogurt maker?

    • @paulinethomas1611
      @paulinethomas1611 11 месяцев назад +10

      You do not stand over the yogurt machine for 36 hours. Once you’ve prepped your yogurt mix and set your yogurt machine you simply leave the liquid yogurt mix to multiply and thicken itself over the next 36 hours. I would say that if you simmer your milk for 20 mins at 88 degrees Celsius as in the suggested method I use, then cool it quickly over ice, it should take no more than an hour of effort. I usually do something else whilst the milk cools to 38 degrees Celsius. The result from my Luvele yogurt maker is superb. A thick creamy delicious yogurt. I am in UK so use a milk mix of 1400 ml whole milk and 200 ml of fresh double cream. The first batch of yogurt is thinner than subsequent batches made from itself as a starter. I start about 8 pm and by 9pm is in the machine. The yogurt is ready 36 hours later at 9 am. Timing is important. So I always make it between the hours 6-9pm according to the morning activity 36 hours later. We cannot get half and half in Uk but the more cream you use the thicker the yogurt. Delicious and worth the effort. It really curbs the appetite and makes me ache less.

    • @jennifermoulton9289
      @jennifermoulton9289 11 месяцев назад +9

      If you had any gumption and drive, you would BE the boss and make all the yogurt you want. Poor excuse!

  • @dlbdlb3919
    @dlbdlb3919 Год назад +1

    thumbs down, people would do all this work.

    • @deepost2604
      @deepost2604 Год назад +16

      I put the 1/2 and half in the yogurt maker, set the time for 36 hours and walked off. Where’s the work?

    • @michaelstarr7948
      @michaelstarr7948 Год назад +4

      believe me, it is worth the effort if your state of being is not what it used to be

    • @tiarianamanna973
      @tiarianamanna973 11 месяцев назад +10

      Thats super weird thinking 😂 well if u dont have the 3minutes per week to make yoghurt for ur health, thats ur choise my friend. Obviously u are not at all sick enough yet, or ur illness have already eaten away ur ability to think straight 😛

    • @ayent_einstein
      @ayent_einstein 11 месяцев назад +10

      Such thought is a symptom of a dysfunctional bowel. 😂

    • @teresahobbs5089
      @teresahobbs5089 10 месяцев назад +9

      If You want healing badly enough you will do ANYTHING! Such laziness..