You can't really fire sabot rounds from an aircraft, the sabot petals get sucked back into the engines and do all sorts of nasty things to the fan blades.
@@commandergeokam2868 it has very similar stats to russian 30mm apds, but the damage is horrendous. also how does a 20mm 100g ap round have more damage in game than a 30mm 450g hvap?
For everyone saying APFSDS GAU-8, there is even already an APFSDS round of the correct caliber in the game, on the 30mm bushmasters, would be interesting to see since it can legitimately be ported 1 to 1
@@konna6130 real life historical accuracy, Gaijin admitted that their models for the Chally 2 and Leclerc are inaccurate to their real life counterparts but have yet to do anything to address it because they dont have enough information about it. Chally 2's mantlet being modeled incorrectly was the reason why classified documents were leaked.
@@TheGraySeed they recently added a kinetic pen modifier to shells (so for example an HE shell could pen 20mms just by the shell's velocity alone) so it could do some weird stuff like behaving like APHE against lightly armoured vehicles
@@TheShootingRubberDuckie Too small for a shaped charge, and the post penetration on something that small would be inconsequential. A 40mm HEDP grenade only gets 63mm of penetration, but 30mm Depleted Uranium rounds get 110mm of penetration while post-pen damage is a good amount of spall, plus DU is pyrophoric, meaning that when it shreds, the small shreds oxidize with the heat of impact and catch on fire, giving the spall that comes through a SIGNIFIANT incendiary effect to the tune of 2,000 degrees Celsius
@@TheShootingRubberDuckie Too much risk that it could fly back and up into the intake on either engine. That's why flares are located in places on planes where there is zero possibility of them flying into the intake. The A-10 already has a problem with the gun exhaust messing with the engine if fired for too long already (basically taking in gun smoke instead of oxygen, which starves the engine). That's also why the gun retains all spent casings.
idk if GAU-12 ever historically got m919 but it definitely got m791 APDS but of course Gaijin would never add that because it's not Russian. Same with data link with FIM-92K to be able to lock helis more than 500m away using IRST, or fixing the laser rangefinder when switching to Hydras which to this day is still bugged, or allowing the hydras to be mounted on the independently aimed launcher and not the one attached to the gun so they could both be zeroed at the same distance but again there is no Russian bias in this game
@ you missed the point entirely. The custom sight gives you approximate (not 100% accurate) markings for rocket ranges, using the laser rangefinder only automatically sets the guns range not the rockets because the rockets aren’t mounted on the independently aimed mount the stingers are, you have to manually aim up like crazy to get the rockets on target which while you do that your GAU-12 is now useless aiming at the sky, you’re forced to use each weapon independently instead of having both zeroed at the same distance, and if you’re using keybinds or that one menu thing to manually switch to the hydra rockets so you’re only able to aim and shoot the rockets, the laser rangefinder regardless if you’re using a custom sight or not is off like 3x the amount it should be, like rangefind the farthest tank in the test drive at like 1100-1200m or whatever and you’ll notice that the hydras shoot way above where they’re supposed to and don’t even come close. Every American SPAA is intentionally left in an unplayable state and any vehicle that could potentially be used as an SPAA despite not being classified as one like M3A3 Bradley having IRST, intentionally doesn’t have an HE belt able to be selected like the first Bradley does despite the bushmaster irl being dual fed and always having a full he belt in one of the 2 boxes loaded
@Safranceur oh I know damn well how weak it's armor is in game, I don't really know about reality but eh seeing how it got shredded in the video makes me sad ):
@@maorys975 even though I'm not particularly cultured on the question I can't really agree with you, the tank design was just thought this way for the needs of the french army and the way platoons are organised, sure its not as heavily armored as a Leopard 2 but it's because its not supposed to engage in close quarter combats blindly as the reconnaissance in French a platoon should allow for more long range engagement, which is where the vehicle shines
now we need APFSDS GAU-8/A
How much pen
@@ata2atayarabani212 the round is already in the game, will be similar to the 30mm bushmasters +/- some for barrel length
You can't really fire sabot rounds from an aircraft, the sabot petals get sucked back into the engines and do all sorts of nasty things to the fan blades.
Uranium ammo >:D
No,we don't.
I think I won't be surprised on how A-10 will perform against ground targets had it got this same kind of treatment.
jets sadly cant equip sabot sells because they would be sucked into the intakes
@@CruLisPwhat r u for real
@@smoothsoybean7029 he is right tho, sabot need to go somewhere
@@CruLisPyes the sabot traveling faster than the speed of sound. would get sucked into the air intake.
@@nickkozak4763sabots aren't aerodynamic. They slow down extremely fast
Now give the A-10 Sabot.
it kinda does more like apds tho
@@commandergeokam2868 it has very similar stats to russian 30mm apds, but the damage is horrendous.
also how does a 20mm 100g ap round have more damage in game than a 30mm 450g hvap?
The reason why jets don't use APDS is because the engine might ingest the sabots after discarding. That's why A-10 uses HVAP instead.
@@konna6130 gaijin simple
Thinking about it the LAV-AD when it first came out the 25mm shot 2500 RPM and the HVAP used to pen like 83mm at 10 meters
It was more like around 90-95
@@DanielSantos-df3tc91
@@DanielSantos-df3tc 89mm if I remember correctly. And they nerfed it due to that one boat.
Bruh, my phone vibrated my eardrums into space and exploded my bed sheets. But such nice info on tank. W video, L sleeping quality
What exploded on your bedsheets???
My phone 😢
For everyone saying APFSDS GAU-8, there is even already an APFSDS round of the correct caliber in the game, on the 30mm bushmasters, would be interesting to see since it can legitimately be ported 1 to 1
Also the sabot would get sucked into the engine
@@midladderA-10 would need a cup of water if it started to choke on a sabot.
0:09 yeah ofcourse they lacks penetration. They nerfed the s**t out of them. They used to pen 95mm but hey, its an american vehicle so must be nerfed
It costs 5,000 Dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds
0 problems as anti air, HIT
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@1300m... it should only have 83mm of pen on 0 degrees... 70mm on 30... 48.5mm on 60...
It should not be penning any of those vehicles...
leclercs armor is pretty bad.
@@konna6130 keckerc is bad because it's not accurate
@@comando_gaming391 inaccurate as in cannon accuracy or in real life historical accuracy? Or both?
Too bad the chally is missing some armor as well.
@@konna6130 real life historical accuracy, Gaijin admitted that their models for the Chally 2 and Leclerc are inaccurate to their real life counterparts but have yet to do anything to address it because they dont have enough information about it. Chally 2's mantlet being modeled incorrectly was the reason why classified documents were leaked.
i would love to see a gun launched ATGM like the 9M117 or 9M119 but at Dart speed
Aren't that going to be just LOSAT without the kinetic penetrator gimmick?
@@TheGraySeed they recently added a kinetic pen modifier to shells (so for example an HE shell could pen 20mms just by the shell's velocity alone) so it could do some weird stuff like behaving like APHE against lightly armoured vehicles
I feel the a10 gun would be challenging to do in irl because of the discarding sabot to help give pen so it can kill modern tanks eg Leo 2a7v
The A-10 round does not use discarding sabot. Would be kinda of a problem if the sabot petals off and flies back into the engine
If I were an engineer I would use a shaped charge like heat
@@TheShootingRubberDuckie
Too small for a shaped charge, and the post penetration on something that small would be inconsequential. A 40mm HEDP grenade only gets 63mm of penetration, but 30mm Depleted Uranium rounds get 110mm of penetration while post-pen damage is a good amount of spall, plus DU is pyrophoric, meaning that when it shreds, the small shreds oxidize with the heat of impact and catch on fire, giving the spall that comes through a SIGNIFIANT incendiary effect to the tune of 2,000 degrees Celsius
Fair point of you would want apfsds then the sabot could go above and below the plane improving spaling and penetration
@@TheShootingRubberDuckie
Too much risk that it could fly back and up into the intake on either engine. That's why flares are located in places on planes where there is zero possibility of them flying into the intake. The A-10 already has a problem with the gun exhaust messing with the engine if fired for too long already (basically taking in gun smoke instead of oxygen, which starves the engine).
That's also why the gun retains all spent casings.
everyone going A10 while it'll get into engines (sabot) then kaput
the startup of the minigun sounds like a fnaf jumpscare
I remember when LAV-AD HVAP had like 88mm of pen and a 500 round belt
Has buff against light armored vehicle
Spam your ammo rack til explosion
Anti air needle
Industrial hole puncher
Music full name?
Same question asked (in my imagination)
AV-8B with APFSDS gonna go crazy
idk if GAU-12 ever historically got m919 but it definitely got m791 APDS but of course Gaijin would never add that because it's not Russian. Same with data link with FIM-92K to be able to lock helis more than 500m away using IRST, or fixing the laser rangefinder when switching to Hydras which to this day is still bugged, or allowing the hydras to be mounted on the independently aimed launcher and not the one attached to the gun so they could both be zeroed at the same distance but again there is no Russian bias in this game
bruh just use custom sights for the gun and rockets at the same time XD
@ you missed the point entirely. The custom sight gives you approximate (not 100% accurate) markings for rocket ranges, using the laser rangefinder only automatically sets the guns range not the rockets because the rockets aren’t mounted on the independently aimed mount the stingers are, you have to manually aim up like crazy to get the rockets on target which while you do that your GAU-12 is now useless aiming at the sky, you’re forced to use each weapon independently instead of having both zeroed at the same distance, and if you’re using keybinds or that one menu thing to manually switch to the hydra rockets so you’re only able to aim and shoot the rockets, the laser rangefinder regardless if you’re using a custom sight or not is off like 3x the amount it should be, like rangefind the farthest tank in the test drive at like 1100-1200m or whatever and you’ll notice that the hydras shoot way above where they’re supposed to and don’t even come close. Every American SPAA is intentionally left in an unplayable state and any vehicle that could potentially be used as an SPAA despite not being classified as one like M3A3 Bradley having IRST, intentionally doesn’t have an HE belt able to be selected like the first Bradley does despite the bushmaster irl being dual fed and always having a full he belt in one of the 2 boxes loaded
i need this in my life
What if u give apfsds to a-10 30mm brrrrrrrrrt autocannon
GAU-8 APFSDS would be scary
US bro's, we need this buff like right now to make US competitive again
DM-53 at 1'300 rpm.
Oh hey, my joint idea with @JustABalrog became a video :D
Also holy shit that hitcam on the T-34s
That’s what I was going to say!
@JustABalrog Yee :)
Now make it BIGGER
Now, if only we had the 30mm bradley or the 40mm variants, i really want to see those lol
That would be fun :) wish it had its normal ap not Hvap
@Zenturion7 would a 10000 m/s LOSAT work?
This shit literally sounds like a halo ce assault rifle
Do the sabots from this kill open topped vehicles?
Could someone tell whats the thing on the right side on the jaguar nuke plane
Could you give the VEAK-40 the same APFSDS as on the Strf 9040C? The one that penetrates 170mm?
Doesn't help that from what I remember APFSDS or even APDS doesn't exist for this gun, but it's entirely possible that I'm wrong
the gau-12 fires the same 25mm as the bushmaster but i imagine there would be problems trying to fire apfsds out of it
@@siko9799Yeah APFSDS would cause problems, APDS would be fine. Gatling gun CIWS use APDS on Naval ships.
Lav-AD was already ball itching before the HVAP nerf, with apdsfs it's totally abusing
I miss its apcr
Can anyone tell me the point of damaging optics in game? Haven't seen anything happen when you do.
라브아다는 아무리 생각해도 마이티마우스 달고 적 차량 측면 갈아버리면서 동시에 로켓도 쏘는게 맞는 운용 같다
now a 380mm
L3/30 but it has 10000m/s apfsds
If they're so suseptible to the round why do they take hundreds of rounds to kill from 50 feet away?
warthog next🗣️🗣️
brrrrrrrrrt
Do APFSDS on Praga’s 30mm
퉁구스카가 bmp2 의 날탄띠나 분철탄띠를 쓴다면 어떻게 될까요???
A-10의 기관포가 날탄을 쏘는것도 해주세요
And it would still not hold a candle to the 2S38 😭
So the leclerc armor is this weak....
In the game yes
Gaijin think french engineers designed a thank that couldn't resist 80mm of pen on front armor xD
@Safranceur oh I know damn well how weak it's armor is in game, I don't really know about reality but eh seeing how it got shredded in the video makes me sad ):
@@SafranceurLet's start with the fact that French engineers never designed a good tank. I wouldn't be surprised if Leclerc was trash in real life too
@@maorys975 even though I'm not particularly cultured on the question I can't really agree with you, the tank design was just thought this way for the needs of the french army and the way platoons are organised, sure its not as heavily armored as a Leopard 2 but it's because its not supposed to engage in close quarter combats blindly as the reconnaissance in French a platoon should allow for more long range engagement, which is where the vehicle shines
하다못해 분리철갑탄이라도 있었더라면...
Now try whit the tunguska
저런 게임 모드는 어떻게 하는건가요?
The question isn't "What if APFSDS GAU-12", but "What if Discarding Sabot GAU-12" 😂
현실에서 저렇게 쏘면 전차 사라져 있을듯 ㅋㅋㅋ
100th like Yayyy
챌2 그만괴롭혀...
for people that said giving Sabot to A-10. you know the reason they did not use them for plane is they are engine hazard right?