7hz Crinacle Zero 2 - ONE flaw ruins it for me
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Resolve takes a look at IEM reviewer Crinacle's latest ultra budget collab with 7hz, the Salnotes Zero 2. The Zero 2 has the potential to be one of the best value products in all of audio.
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00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Non-sound related stuff
02:28 - Sound quality
04:12 - What doesn't work for me
06:41 - How it sounds WITH MUSIC
07:42 - Collab fatigue? 
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1:21 Don't worry, I can fix this
*Especially when a very popular anime character is literally named Zero Two... this one needed it* 😂
Daaaaarling
Yeah I was thinking why they missed the chance of colab as this one is actually suitable for regular people's audio taste thus it would make a great colab 😂
Salnotes is a sub brand of 7hz. That's what Crinacle said.😊
I had the same fit issue with the 7hz sonus . I was great to hear someone properly articulate how it affects the sound.
This review made me so happy :) It's straight forward talk about the things that work well (tuning and the sound for the price), and also about the issues that I can - as a potentional buyer - expect. This is a great time for IEMs indeed - and I l also love that there is no snobbism in this review because diminishing any cheap product is so easy to do.
I'm glad to see varying opinions on IEMs and headphones in general. Most people just say whatever is new is best
Nice to see the evolution of the Salnotes Zero. I agree about the tips, the original Zero is one of the most annoying IEMs I've used when it comes to the tips. They're wide, and push out of your ear, and if you insert them deeper, the silicone tip collapses on itself and breaks the seal. Even measuring on the metal coupler was a huge pain for me since it would push itself out within seconds. For my Zero I ended up using different tips. I am still excited to try the Zero 2 since my main complaint about the original Zero was the treble.
Aren’t you SuporSalad?
@@nukefoodsofficial5849 yeah
Bruh, I bought a 2nd pair just for the tips. I'm not even kidding. This goes to show how different peoples ears are
@@8lec_R7hz zero fits perfectly on my ears too, zero and the simgot ew200 are the best in confort for me.
They should have fixed the shell shape too
For those having the fit issues like stated in the video, try tip rolling.
I had a similar glare from a shallow insertion problem until I found a good fit with a rarely used dual flange tips. Was initially frustrated and about to sell but is now quite content with the IEM.
If these fit anything like the original zeros then they will fit perfectly for me. I personally have small ear canals. The Zero REDs were too big for me and would constantly be on the verge of falling out since I couldn’t insert them deep enough. The BLON Jojo’s, which are tiny and designed to be inserted deeper in the ear just hit the wall of my small ear canal and partially block the sound.
Yeah, the angle of the Jojo's nozzles are not good.
Is there an IEM similar in sound signature to the Zero RED that fits well for small ear canals?
@@TheVeganVicar the curse of small ear holes is real...
The TRN V80 works best for me. They sound great, and have a very small body and nozzle. I have a small ear canal and, with memory foam tips, I never feel like theyre about to fall out, nor do they ever get uncomfortable @@arfandange
I had that issue with the original Zeros, but was never able to figure out what was going on exactly. In forums people would just say it's because they're bright IEMs, and it takes getting used to, but the insertion depth thing makes sense. I have a pair of KZs that people describe as painfully bright, but I don't get that same lower treble "piercing" sound as I do with Zeros.
I've tried standard tips. I've tried Spinfits, and I've tried Comply's. None of them are entirely comfortable due I think to the nozzle length and it's contact with the canal entrance. What's the most comfortable tip according to all of you?
The original zero fit me so the zero 2 will probably fit me
I'm glad I'm not the only one who think the fit is the main problem, it sounded completely different once I use foam tips in my OG Salnote Zero, the bass actually better and treble is tolerable once the bass is more nounce. I think the shape also a problem because it wouldn't be a problem the IEM siting outside of my ears if weren't for the weird shape and makes it more rounder like normal IEMs shape.
5:23 Thank you for measuring the nozzle diameter
cartoon child makes sound better. This is known
😂😂😂
Anime*
I have fit issues like youre describing with the truthear zero. Massive nozzle doesnt fit my ear canal well and slowly pushes itself out. It affects subbass and treble a fair bit and they just arent comfortable for longer periods of time.
I ended up getting TRN Clarion tips per a random recommendation in discussions of Zero, and am fairly content with the result. These tips have a convex-concave shape that let the IEMs seal better even if they aren't fully pushed in. Can't guarantee that this will work for everyone, and I'm not a fan of buying "accessories" for budget gear myself, but something like this might be an option.
What do you think of it versus the Hola? Different tuning aside.
In the end, what kept me from using last season's 20-buck IEMs was lack of instrument separation, especially in the middle and higher frequencies. They all suffered from it, except maybe the Hola. The $35 bracket, things like the Moondrop LAN or the Kiwi Ears Cadenza, were already much better in that aspect.
@@kuhieyei3855 If you say so.
0:12 Salnotes is the budget brand under 7hz. @Resolve
Is this version better in gaming fps game like valorant compared to the og 7hz zero
Is the 7 Hz Crinacle Zero 2 better than the 7 Hz salnotes zero? for FPS games where I need to know how far away and where the sound of enemy footsteps is coming from?
Same question!
Have you tried it with Spinfit CP155? Because it is longer and coned shaped, it will help with insertion depth.
how are these compared with simgot em6l form gaming purpose?
I am looking for new cables for my CCA PLA 13 iem. Do anyone know which iem cables are best for it ?
I can't believe I actually agree with you on the sizing of these!
I don't understand why they keep releasing huge shell IEMs with a single DD in them. It seems unneccessarily large/bulky. Why aren't they small like the single DD Sennheiser IE nnn range?
Or, the RHA MA390u
I owned the orginal zero (mecha ver) and simgot ew200 ... will Zero 2 surpass simgot ew200? 🤔
I need buy earbuds, which one is the best among them all ?
Is this iem good for live stage monitoring for a drummer??
i have been searching for someone with ears as crinkly as mine to see if any of these big flat iems will even fit in my tiny conch! this is one of the most helpful reviews i've found. do you have a recommendation for comfy budget iems for members of the crinkly ear club?
I have the same problem as you with the fit. I use dekoni foams and they make them usable but I'm only using them at my desk for gaming so not a lot of moving around, I don't think I could use them walking around.
What would you recommend at 20$ if this is a deal breaker?
Finding the right eartips to fit the OG Salnotes zero was a pain personally. In the end i opt for whizzer SS20 but even with that it felt weird wearing a longer period of time not to mention the upper treble spike and is quite unnatural. So yeah. wouldn't be bother with the same shell part.2 aswell for me. Great heads up though
Hi, I was curious about the quality of the cable at least from a sound quality perspective. Is there any reason to upgrade the cable, meaning: is it worth upgrading the cable for this? Will the cable that came with it suffice?
The Cable is Good For It's Price.
It would be interesting to know how it compares to the Hola.
The graphs are nearly identical. The treble peak is lower on the Hola. I also think the Hola is one of the easiest to fit IEMs.
Hello guys new to the iEM rabbit hole! until 50euros hich to choose these Zero 2 or the more expensive RUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero? or the cheap Tancjim ZERO. Or Moondrop Arya? Or something else? Too confused!!
The issue with them pushing to the outside of your ear is interesting because I have the exact same thing but with anything I use in my right ear.
I lost one of my KZ ZS10s because I only used it in my left ear and once I was down to one I stopped caring and started using it as an earpiece at work for my radio. Same thing with my galaxy buds 2's I'll put them both in, throw a helmet on and mid ride on the road I have to try and push my helmet into my right ear to secure it
I currently am using the blon bl03 (first and only iems), would you say it is worth picking up the zero 2s even if only for the aesthetics?
I bought these to "try" IEMs. 20 bucks on Amazon or something. Coming from 1000.00 headphones and a dedicated DAC and amp the Linsoul Zero:2 absolutely shock me at how good they sound driven by my old Samsung Note 9, no dongle, no nothing. I have weird small ear canals for a big guy, and these fit perfectly with the pink tips that came stock on them.
Should i prefer iems under 50bucks rather than over ear "gaming" headphones under 50 bucks? If comfort is out of the option, which would be better for gaming?
@@Azhan_here... For under 50 dollars, give IEM's a preference, and if you need the mic of a gaming headset then get a cheap mic separately. If you need something over ear then get a wired headphone and mic separately. I would never recommend a gaming headset under any circumstances.
@@Azhan_here... probably.
@Azhan_here... iems are far better than overpriced gaming garbage, just find one with a large soindstage
The Truthear Zero has a MASSIVE nozzle, the OG Salnotes Zero did not, can you confirm that the Zero 2 does not either? It looks like the same external dimensions with the same ear tips.
I have no problems at all with fit on the OG zero, but had to get small spinfit tips to wear the truthear red and even then I was only comfortable for about an hour or so.
Currently using Salnote Zero ear tips with the 7hz Sonus, because they are more comfortable than the stock and sound better than moondrop springtips.
No problems...I find it odd that I seem to suddenly be in the minority if the external dimensions really are carried over. I really like the squishy silicone tips and haven't had any seal or falling out problems at all.
why not try and get a in ear full mold that can connect to any IEM? would solve the problem
Vs the chu 2?
The old Zero's went from my least favorite to my most favorite budget pair after I found some no same XL tips (they seem to be the same kind as the ones they come with but one size larger than the yellow tips).
I dissed my Moondrop Chu 2 and has always been using the Salnotes Zero 2 using the Chu 2 cable. I'm glad that I don't have any fit issues.
Is it that much better? I'm using chu 2's for a while now
@@sandsgrainofsand5320the mids and bass on the Zero 2 are better than the Chu 2.
No mic? I want to use these for gaming
is this iem better than Crinacle + Truthear Zero Red?
Which one do you think is better 7hz salnotes zero:2 or tangzu wan’er?
That iem better have zero two picture on the box or I'm going riot
It might seem crazy what im bout to say
about that...
child enthusiast spotted
I wanted to dive into the IEM space without busting the bank & sheesh I'm impressed with these. I am no audiophile but enjoy different ranges of music & game. Listening to the quality of the zero2 was impressive. Especially at this price point. Hopefully I haven't fallen down the rabbit hole yet
How does it's compares to the moondrop Chu and Chu 2
Is it easily driven?
I'm looking for something efficient that I can plug straight into my phone, and go DAC-less from time to time when required.
I have the Halo's which sound pretty good on my DAC, but it seems my phone struggles a bit with them. I have them on 90-100 percent volume a lot of the time, meaning I have to whip the crap out of my phone to drive them, and even then, they sound a bit animic.
Should be fine to drive tho, i have the original zero and it runs fine on my phone.
@@bazli115049 Thanks!
@@bazli115049how does one know if its running fine
Chiming in that with the included eartips, they pop out of my ears too. Eventually just got some Mondrop Spring Tips to fix that problem.
Can you review zigaat nuo?
I have no problem with my zero. I like how it was tuned. And its fit, nothing.... i have nothing to complain about, it fits me perfectly. it flushed with my ear and i can use it to sleep without any discomfort or putting pressure on my ear. compared to hexa wan'er and aful p5, i prefer 7hz zero fitting.
Thank you for this straightforward review! I'm a student so this is actually slightly out of budget for me, but if it's worth it, i was willing to splurge.
But the connections are recessed .78mm (so i can't use my .75mm qdc mic cable), the shell looks to be too angular for my small ears, and those nozzles are 6mm?!
Right now, I'm considering sgor adonis. There's only one english review here, unfortunately. But there's a bunch of recommendations for it on Reddit.
I was looking for a fun IEM with a little Bass boost. Recently moved away from my samsung buds after they broke and went with a Fiio true wireless adapter with my now 4 year old tin t2s really nice combo but a little flat IMO. I think these will compliment them nicely and even if they dont fit perfectly 20€ + 10 for the mmcx to 2 pin adapter are not too bad if they are not my favorite. Hoping for a good fit in my big ears with tiny earholes.
I'm so glad to hear the lower treble issue isn't just me. It ruined the original zero for me and made me think my ears created a resonance there since it doesn't show up on measurements. I'm disappointed to hear it's still present on the Zero 2, because I wanted to buy one after seeing that bass boost and improved treble around 13k
Is it a "flaw" if it doesn't fit your ear? How does one review an IEM properly without being able to wear it correctly? What tips were used?
I guess fit issues with the iem is far more forgivable when it’s $25. Goes to show that you should never purchase any expensive IEMs without trying them out first (or have really good return policy)
Salnotes appears to basically be a "label" of 7hz.
I'm very new to the IEM world, but what eartips that come with the Salnotes do you guys recommend?
Ew200, hola or zero:2 ?
The Timeless couldn't fit my ears no matter what and that was an absolute deal breaker. I think the safest fit in the inexpensive market today is the EPZ Q5
It's funny that you complained about the "mega-stiff" 2-pin connector. I believe that's deliberate. Crinacle's marketing video mentioned a tighter connection. For me personally, it seems like a good thing, but maybe annoying for someone who swaps gear a lot :P
Are they USB c or 3.5mm I can't find an answer on Amazon
3.5
That blue shell is giving me Nintendo 64 vibes. I had the see through blue one as a kid 😂
TRN Conch: tuned like Simgot EW200 lows and airy EA500 highs (using red nozzle) with at least 90% technicalities; set of tuning nozzles adjusting upper mids and highs; premium modular braided cable; 3 types of eartips incl the TRN T-tips; metal puck case; good professional packaging overall; $18-25 (typical)
Zero 2: slightly better Zero 1 with samey package; $25
it has extremely uneven treble with big spikes
@@smolbo1 I can sort of hear what you mean but my brain can handle this sound signature and it presents as "detail" to my ears. My first IEMs had really smooth highs presentation and it sounds really boring.
@@r.vincenta.9678 i own nearly 20 iems and have listened to much more. trn conch is just a treble mess maybe try more iems out you would see why
Just getting started with the video. Salnotes, if nobody brought it up yet, is a sub-brand of 7hz for the sub-$100 market, as far as I can tell. It could also be for collabs. Time will tell, as they don't have terribly many products out yet.
Ah crap, I've just bought them. I hope that the fit, coupled with my smaller ear and ear canal, doesn't ruin them for me as well.
Maybe Im miss remembering… I haven’t watched a video in a while, but congrats on cutting some weight man! Looking great! Also, thank you for the review!
Harmony Codex!!!!! Yeah man! Audio Brilliance
I thought I was crazy for being the only one that heard a shouty 4khz region in the OG Zero, I guess it's the same on the Zero 2... dang.
Got the Zero 2, I think it has a bit of extra energy at 4khz and around 12khz but it's not really a lot (like 1 or 2 db) and does not screw with tonality, also it has really nice bass to become what is in my opinion the best tuned IEM out of all the cheapie sub 30 dollar IEMs, the only thing up to 100 dollars I heard that has better tuning is the truthear zero red with the impedance adapter
Would recommend easily, though it being a 20-25 dollar IEM means the eartips and cable are really meh, you need aftermarket tips/cables to get a really nice set or you could just go to the truthear zero red for 50 dollars and get a complete set with pretty nice eartips and cable
These are the iems I take to work after breaking some $220 tws. I'm satisfied with them, but I know I won't be devastated if they break.
Can you suggest which tips fits better for you without causing major sound changes
How do u not know the cost ? Its 24.99
Crinacle didn't know the price either. They likely made these videos before yesterday's launch and they weren't given pricing info by Salnotes.
What a time to be alive where we get so many good quality iems for cheap.
The fit on IEMs can be an issue for some. For example, the original Salnotes Zero is one of the most easiest, basically wear and forget it IEM for me. And then there are IEMs that people are happy with, and they give me a problem when I wear them.
Thanks Resolve! You commented quite extensively about the fit but what about the fitment?
I am the opposite, i prefer shallow nozzle iems - having both a long nozzle and rubber tip jammed in my ear canal causes way too much stress/strain and irritation and always causes it to pop out. So i use short nozzle iems with double flange tips that i make by myself by cutting short cheap triple flange tips. The iems sit on the outside of my ear canal and only the double flange enters my ear canal. Much more tolerable for my ear canals that twist decidedly upwars close to the entrance into the ear canals.
You know Andrew? I'm thinking about paying an artist to draw an anime version of you :D couple of them actally.
a true to life version with no nonsense black-grey colors
a very over the top shonen version
and IDK? a waifu version? :D
I can only imagine...
Look like similar sound profile to moondrop chu-2 which I like alot.
KZ ZS10 Pro X Vs 7Hz Zero 2?
I got the trn conch for the same price. So i dont think ill pick this one up
Audio is so subjective: The 7Hz Original Zero fits perfectly with me.
I have similar issue with Truthear Hexa. I'm not sure it's fit related, but 2200-3800 are very boosted for me, even when comparing to something more forward in this region (Truthear Zero, for example).
I filed the nozzle of my hexa down because my ear canals are quite small and it improved the sound so much for me. My truthear zeros had half of their nozzles filed off because they were gigantic. I think crin has massive earholes and doesn't realize it 🤷🏼♂️
Keep in mind that the shape of the shell with its fairly significant corner may be painful to use over longer time (hours); it depends, some say it is the best fit ever, and others that it hurts. So if you're planning to get Zero blindly, just know that you _might_ need to return it for that reason.
Or might not return them cause they're 25 buckaroos... Worth a try IMO
It has the best fit for my ears. the original zero has perfect fit for me. no fatigue for hours listening. zero2 will definitely be a good small upgrade
It hurts for my ears. I just tested it for a week
Interesting, personally I found that the presence area is way too recessed for my personal taste and feels way too safe. Maybe its just me but completely lacking in the sibilance area makes anything brass and woodwinds sound wrong. That being said because its so safe its easy to rec to people. Guess it really is different ears different sounds lol.
short nozzle unfortunately. I have the same problem with original zeros
Not having an anime-style character on the box being considered a plus (even if it's clearly not taken that serious) is wild, ngl. I thought everyone enjoyed them by now, just by the fact that it's a work of art on the box rather than just "Image of the product at good-looking angle". SO much more appealing to have something unique on the box to represent the IEMs, or a series of IEMs.
I know it's absolutely no big deal. I'm just shocked that there are still people that actively want to avoid the 'audio waifu' trend, even if it is a bit silly.
The cartoon shit is incredibly cringe and borderline disturbing, there is NO good argument for it. "work of art" bro stop, work on your hygiene and mental health.
Why is there an anime character on the box when they could not have included it? And what is the reason they put an anime character on the box?
@@gelgel4823 It's just a mascot design to represent an IEM or series. Similar to promotional photography with real people in it, it's supposed to convey the qualities of the product through a visual medium, as well as just be generally appealing to the eye in order to catch attention.
It doesn't change the product inside or anything, but it's just a bit of art to appreciate, and it helps show that the company that made the IEMs care enough about it to want to put in the money/effort into developing a mascot for each set, rather than just having a company logo and calling it a day.
At some point in life you will grow out of it and wish your entire collection looked like it came from the 1960s.
I'm a rough user. I'm not a gamer, music 24/7. I listen to most of the genres. Overall which IEM would be worth for me to purchase among these 3?
1. Kiwi Ears Cadenza
2. Tripowin Piccolo
3. 7HZ Crinacle Zero 2
My Device : Google Pixel 6a
Kiwi vs tangzu Waner vs zero 2
01:12 - Frequency Response IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I look for on the product specs (along with Driver size, Sensitivity etc etc), It's a SHAME it's NOT a STANDARD to put these kind of specs on the packaging for IEMs, On Ears, Over Ears etc... 😒
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Good point. If tips are so important (and they are) why don't IEM's come in different sizes? At least Deep and shallow. Lol. My girlfriend likes the deep ones.
7hz Zero 2 vs moondrop chu 2, Which is the best???
I don't understand the frustration some people seem to feel about all these collabs. It's a good thing. If you share many of the tastes in sound as your favorite audio reviewer, why wouldn't you want something tuned by them?
I am no audiophile, but the fact there are more options at every price range compared to 3 years ago and with decent sound quality is fantastic. If you are not familiar with a certain company or you are unsure about an iem's tuning then having a reviewer you know be a part of it is reassuring. That's why I bought a Blessing 2 Dusk which I use and is still my favorite to this day.
Bottomline, if you don't like these collabs that okay, it's your opinion, but they are not for you. They benefit other people and allow for more access to better sound. Not all of us live in an area where we can test out iems or headphones.
On a final note, in a video announcing the Zero 2 Crin did explain the tuning was targeting a more consumer-like (for-the-masses) customer as they are the ones most likely to buy budget iems.
I was a big fan of the neutral sound of the original Zero. Do you think I will like these? Should I pass on these?
What’s funny is you can buy an iem that cost hundreds more with the same tuning but maybe it offers more with overall quality and fit
Sound quality-wise there is no reason for me to be using an IEM like this, except for one reason... I kill every earphone/IEM when I do cardio. I guess it's the sweat. I'm at the point where I need to go cheap and the $20-$25 options are pretty great now.
As someone said iems have got silly with the releases. They are putting out so many half tuned ones This is one I'm interested in though! 😂. Last one! Welll
Duude. A reviewer with the same problem as me? My issue with most of the iems today is shallow insert depth, falling out and so on. I have 'solved' the problem by using bullet shaped iems, etymotic, ling longs, final, quarks.
I’m gonna throw my two cents in and say I think the new ZIIGAAT Nuo is probably a good contender around $25. I have a set and they’re pleasantly tuned and pretty good at the techs. No complaints on the fit either. I’ve got smaller ears, and a pretty small concha (but medium size canal), so fit can be a problem with some larger chassis or strangely shaped IEMs. I put the Nuo in and forget it.
Hottake: I prefer OG Truthear Zero over Zero: Red