One of the weird things about this game is that between sessions or running over pedestrians, intentionally provoking car accidents and shooting cops I still feel obliged to go out of my way to recover that stolen wallet or purse for some random person on the street.
GTA 5 has plenty of genuinely comedic moments. I'll forever get a smirk thinking about the cutscene where Trevor trips over Franklin's garden fence lol. Or basically anytime Trevor and Lamar talk.
Franklin and Lamar have the best chemistry, which makes sense since they're lifelong friends. I'm glad the writers were able to convey that fact through the dialogue. You can tell they harbor some animosity towards each other but in the end would take a bullet for the other.
42:00 I also notice in the final missions if you choose to kill Michael, Trevor will not help you but if you choose to kill Trevor, Michael does help you. Really depressing to think the only person that makes Trevor feel human would turn his back at any moment. Understandable considering how Trevor is but still very sad.
I think its more of a code Trevor has. Trevor ,in all his sadistic nature , suprisingly has a code of never betray and he is loyal. This is why he hates michael in the end of the game and "wants" to kill him but when Franklin chooses to go after Michael Trevor will hate Franklin too.
Whoa Trevor loves michael that's why you assume he hates michael. He doesn't hate michael , he hates what michael has become. It is sad. But Trevor is the moral compass of the game. Trevor's path is the right path.if you kill trevor ... Michael tells franklin that surviving is winning and that's all there is. Franklin at 25 has become as jaded and cynical as michael at 45. If franklin kills michael he immediately seeks to reconnect with Lamar who despite being an idiot has always been loyal. Trevor sees his relationship with michael in Lamar and franklin. He sees lamar only wanting to seek love and respect from franklin and franklin tossing him aside.
You should watch TheProfessional's video on why Dimitri betrayed Niko. He goes on comparing Dimitri's psychopathy with Trevor's sociopathy. To sum up his video, psychopaths are liars and manipulators. They are sadistic, just like sociopaths. The first difference is that sociopaths are obvious while psychopaths take a long time to figure out they're psychopaths. Second, sociopaths don't care if they die while psychopaths does everything they can to remain alive so that they keep on inflicting pain and suffering to others. Third, sociopaths just don't care they're inflicting pain on others while psychopaths enjoy it. Fouth, sociopaths have a certain moral code that they will never break while psychopaths don't have any. TheProfessional's video goes on much deeper than this, and my summary of his video doesn't do enough justice on his explanation. You should totally watch the video, it's called "Why Does Dimitri Betray Niko? The Real Reason".
@@MichaelJohnson-be7jo i mean if u look at the type of people trevor and Michael are , a sell out and a deranged man that wants things to go back to the way they are, it makes sense to kill either one. what lesson did you/franklin learn , do u become a sellout and kill trevor to tie up a lose end or do u chose loyalty over all and kill the sell out.
@@joshuabreurken2424 There was a moment where I was in first person mode leaving ammunation and Trevor randomly pops up to hang (right before The Big Score I think). I decline because I wanted to get to the mission. I start randomly talking to a girl outside of the store and he's around the corner. I guess I bump Trevor some how by accident and he wasted me. Made me choose to kill him. He's too unpredictable. I hate Michael overall for him being a snake but Trevor's liability level was way too high for me. Honestly I feel like the only reason people love C so much is because it gives all the characters a chance to shine and it's a happy ending but realistically you don't let a Trevor live.
@@corneliusrawness That's exactly how I feel about the 'kill Trevor ending' Realistically if we were put into Franklin's or Michael's shoes in the game's last moments we'd waste Trevor in a heartbeat. I mean there's a reason the FIB ask you to kill him beyond "it's personal" like it is for Devin wanting Michael dead.
To me, I always felt the humor was supposed to be rhetorical. It's a producer's chance to show the people playing it what they're really like. It's like when Kojima made everyone play as Raiden in MGS2 because everyone just wanted to play as Snake (an augmented, superior version of themself) instead of some green kid (you, the player).
No one gets this! It's a parody. The Housers are British and it's been long known that gta is designed to make fun of American culture. Not pick a side, but literally joke about the absurdities of the extremes of all of us.
The story in this game is so overlooked. That shit in Ludendorff was some of the tensest shit I've played recently. Rockstar is the king of world design and storytelling, not online.
@Menace to society My dude wrote a whole paragraph with horrible grammar just to say GTA V is bad and that GTA IV is better. Damn, we really got dumber.
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@@anchorbubba the best is when lamar meets devin westin 🤣 Lamar: “ay don’t touch me, I don’t get down like that” Devin: “…. Yeah let me tell you how the world works slim” 🤣🤣🤣
The humor for me comes from the fact that it's made by a bunch of Scottish people from the UK who are taking the absolute piss out of America. All the social commentary in the GTA games comes from that outsider perspective. It's what the scots call "patter" or "banter". It's biting, but also good natured. That's why there's no single political message, it's them looking at America from the outside, like watching monkeys in a zoo. That feeling you like from Niko being an outsider? Every game was made through that lens irl.
Absolutely, the voice actors even said that the script gets written in formal english snd then they are instructed to adjust it with american slang, thay's how "unamerican" gta is. And as an "outsider" I agree with you, gta shows how america looks like from the outside, especially the the in-game radio commercials, talk shows and tv, think about it next time you're playing, it's not even satire, it's a combination of americam stereotypes combined together. Imagine if americans made a game set in England in which you have to go to the pub and get shitfaced and then you have to avoid getting jumped by hooligans on your way home, that's pretty much how we perceive gta. This is why the satire is so good at targeting both the political stands, neither the american right nor the american left are like our european counterparts, they both look insane to us. Conservatives are all hilariously evil, hand-steepling corporate moguls who publicly rant about hating gays, immigrants and the crippled. Liberals, meanwhile, are all Urban-shopping hipsters with condescending attitudes and total lack of self-awareness about their hypocrisy and double standards. Cops are all murderous psychos who scream about how killing people makes them hard, both gta 4 and lcs had police recruiting ads that implied that you should join the force so that you have an excuse to shoot at people. Then there's the proudly made in america muscle cars that get advertized with eagle screeches, a german beer called pisswasser that isn't consumed in Germany but is exclusively produced to be exported to the US, the burger shot "heartstopper" burger, that crazy antismoking ad from san andreas that makes fun of america's super strict smoking bans ("we will ban smoking even in your own house", it was 2004 and recently San Francisco tried to do it for real), the jack howitzer movie trailers that make fun of american 80s flicks either set in Vietnam or some other cold war related scenario...
Nah the dialogue in this game is hilarious & feels authentic, something alot games struggle with is realistic or funny dialogue, even the cutscenes in this game are memorable.
My favorite was when I switched to Trevor at one point and he was screaming at some bicyclists and I was compelled to run them over simply because...well, Trevor lined it up and I didnt see why I shouldnt take the shot.
I wish there was more game analysis. Especially like this one. I think he should do character analysis. Like Dutch from rdr2 and Trevor and Michael from gta 5. Cj from san andreas. I think character analysis is better but a game analysis is greatly appreciated.
It's a great game with a lot of effort put into it. It feels like Rockstar wanted this to be their Grand opus. But because the game has 3 playable characters, some things feel left out of focus. I mean, once Trevor joins the story, Franklin is kind of left in the background. He automatically gets a big mansion by just doing one mission. The game's antagonists are interesting, but they don't get much screen time. The desert that Trevor lives in feels empty, despite it having bikers and meth heads. Missed opportunities for drug wars. The ballas are underused in this game. I was hoping Franklin would take over balla territory and start wars.
The game is great, but the story kinda feels empty and mediocre. Its hard to tell what I exactly mean, but I'll try. Personally I think that the game is too sarcastic, and I just dont like the atmosphere too much. Its a decent idea to make a parody of Los Angeles with all the fake celebrity stuff, but personally I would've liked something else. The game parodises some things so much that it feels outdated nowadays. The map is great, but the desert and mountains feel empty, even tho they make like 70% of the map (The city is great tho). The characters were good, but not as good as some other Rockstar's characters (Arthur Morgan, Niko etc.). I didnt really get same kind of bond with the characters compared to Arthur for example. The story is way too short, probably because of the 3 characters. The game is good, dont get me wrong, but isnt as great as other Rockstar games
I think a better idea would've been to focus the narrative on just Michael and Trevor, and then R* could do a dlc similar to Ballad of Gay Tony where you play as Franklin rising up from street hustler to career criminal. Make it like an homage to San Andreas, hell make Lamar a second playable character in it too.
On the question you asked about if you act different depending on the character, when the little ambient mission come up i act differently, as franklin if i saw a guy stealing something i would help them cause hes lived that life of petty crime too, as micheal i would help the victim cause he would see such petty stuff as below him and relish the opportunity to act the good guy and as trevor i would kill everyone and take what i please cause thats pretty much his MO
Ye I’m like that, I try and be the good guy with Michael as that’s what he wants to see himself as, I play like a normal person but break a few laws occasionally as Franklin and go all out as Trevor doing anything I feel like. I also play different radios depending on who I’m playing as, Michael is always Lo’s Santos rock radio, Franklin is west coast classics and Trevor is channel x or rebel radio
I usually keep the wallet each time, it's only $500 and the cheap ass idiots who you return it to that were stupid enough to let themselves be mugged in the first place only give you a lousy ten percent as a reward! Screw it, I can get three times that amount robbing a 24/7!
What is the center of a sphere? Well, you could say that there is no center, or you can say that every point is the center. In an infinite universe, where is the center? Every point becomes the center. Or, no point is the center. In much the same way, in a pointless world… every single thing becomes the point. Keep your head up squirt, every single breath you take is meaningful, if only for its own sake, you incredibly marvelous and impossible creature.
My mom is a major rule follower and big on doing what is right morally, but I've been playing GTA V again on PS3 when I visit her house. Interestingly enough, she finds the game fascinating and appreciates how ridiculous it is. She also likes how much there is to it and how impressive the huge world is. I'm amazed to find that she likes this game lol
The political commentary is meant to be all over the place. It is meant to turn one’s own self seriousness against themselves, and point out the absurdity of politics as a whole. It is not meant to make a singular statement or give singular stances. It is meant to be taken as a whole. It’s a giant fuck you to as many people as they could.
best comment, it kinda sounds like he just didnt enjoy a few liberal jokes and then shut down trying to enjoy it. both sides are hilariously stupid, gta v points that out in everyway possible from as many perspectives as possible
@@SmokedTTSyou hit the nail on the head, the major problem is that people are so engrossed in Orwellian groupthink they can’t see the irony. It’s a pathetic state of affairs
It's funny how I can call myself far left, but have a totally different take on the story. I thought it was HYSTERICALLY funny. The only thing is I thought Franklin and his father-son relationship with Michael got sidelined after Trevor joins the story. So Franklin gets underdeveloped after the first third of the game. Although Franklin gave me one of my favorite character switch moments where I switched to him and he was in his bedroom ironing socks. That tickled me.
That is because it is fair when it come to making fun of each side of the political isle, I would consider my self right wing (not far right, but typically more traditional values) and I sometime get a laugh from the commentary that come from the people of Blane county
I love reading and/or watching analytical videos on the mediums i consume and having to find out about this channel is an absolute marvel to behold. You deserve far more attention imo. Lov the vids and looking forward to new ones.
Tanisha is actually real hypocrite. She is talking about friendship and all that but then she is going on some unknown doctor or some shit for herself, instead of stepping up and doing things for herself.
If you look at her lifeinvader, it isnt just her going off with a doctor or some shit but accepting his efforts to wipe out her past ties by criticizing her "hood" appearance and dialect. She basically succeeds at cutting the ties that Franklin tried to (and eventually didnt, instead acknowledging the role those ties have in his new life).
What? Like her doctor fiance isn't s great person but she got out of the hood. She pursued the life she wanted. She is Franklin's friend but she has to be distant because Franklin can't move on and accept her independence. Sometimes any progress is still progress.
Tbh I've also always thought that the main draw of GTA 5 is that it allows you to step out of line and misbehave in a relatively realistic world in ways you'd never dare / want to in real life. Perhaps it even has a cathartic quality to it.
That whole thing with the GTA 4 intro happened to me too. Loaded it up, so excited to play my first gta (I was like 9) and my mums sat in the room and so is my sister. First thing we hear is some guy yelling “daddy’s back bitches!” With a woman whipping him in the back. Lmao I was so embarrassed
when I was 9 I was riding my bike, exploring the woods etc..so sad you were playing GTA4. Theres a reason for the 18 rating. Hope you dont grow up to be a sociopath!
@@imjonathan6745 I know. We were lucky back then. allowed to be children and use our imagination. Much safer world too. I'd leave the house and have adventures all day at 10 years old and was perfectly safe. Didn't need to be monitored and tracked. Games like this are not healthy for children. As adults they're fine btw. Just my opinion.
@@RetroMarkyRM sociopathy is actually a mental disorder that forms in the brain from birth.. it doesn’t just “pop” up, you need to do some research, GTA 4 is an amazing game and actually has some really good messages like how the American dream is just a lie so that migrants are tricked into entering this country, its a facade and this game taught me that so well
Totally forgot about run the jewels. Thanks for the reminder and the great video. I work graves at a hotel and this definitely helped to pass by audit.
I get the criticism of sexist overtones with Michael's family but when it comes to Jimmy and his racism I think it's meant to be more of an intentional criticism. Paticularly a response to the vicarious living through characters within video games or just in general through "larger-than-life" personas within media (fictional or otherwise) I've seen people interpret this as specifically white people wanting to connect on a superficial level to "black culture" but I take it as a more of a general criticism. I think my opinion could be supported by the fact that along with living vicariously through Franklin, Jimmy also enjoys the idea of being a rugged military type considering his obsession with FPS to the point of cosplaying as a soldier with nightvision goggles and all (if you don't remember he wears it in the mission "Meltdown") I gotta wonder if outside of the comedy of juxatposing Jimmy in a soldier outfit teabagging next to actually armed militia members is possibly making a statement on the want of the typical Blackwater (I think they've rebranded by some new stupid name recently actually but I'm not sure) soldier wanting to assume that "rugged and masculine" identity of a US soldier. Maybe it is all for laughs and I'm reading too much into it. This is the problem with such broad political commentary.
You’re right. Jimmy is merely struggling to find out what it means to be a man so he latched onto various ideas of what a man is (Franklin & the Hood life) or being a soldier who kills for country. His only ideas of what a man should be come from media, and Michael.
@@robertsmalls2293 If you hang out with him as Franklin you can tell he struggles to connect with people and just wants to fit in and have friends. It’s really sad actually and it makes him feel like a real person since many struggle to do so. But you’d only notice that if you pay real attention to the small details which generally a lot of people don’t. They just see the comedic overtones of his story and people don’t take it seriously since it’s all for laughs but when you see the reality of it, it’s actually really sad and well written
Dude you're young. Replay it in 5 years. Im 43 and i played in 2013 when it came out. I did not fully understand it then. I'd probably agree with a lot of your criticism. I first thought franklin was the med ground morally. He's not. All gta and red dead games are completely about family, A broken family that needs to be put back together. Maybe the only family Trevor ever really cared about. To understand gta 5 you first must understand who these 3 men are and why they care about each other... You're right trevor is the saddest but he also is the most compassionate. He is also the moral compass of the family . I looked at them " as equals like u w 3 different outlooks. But they care not at all. Franklin is 25 years old in desperate need of mentorship. In desperate need of a father to guide him. Devin westin, that name is important BC its who michael has become. Someone, that cares about people as much as they care useful. Sadly, this path started in north yankton when he betrayed his best friend to survive. Survive is the world that sums up michael . the guardian angel, Michael...saint Michael , or michael De santa. Michael townley was a different person, He was a blue collar small town guy, the furthest things from the bullshit of vinewood and the fib. Hell he is not even witness protection. Who was he a witness against? No, 2 clever young men , saint michael and david , beloved by god, heisted the system. They gamed the fib and society to make a public career for dave and secret retirement score for michael. The price of his wealth, one tiny soul of the notorious robber. There was no way out. He needed to get away from the risk of not being a father or worse losing his family. With amanda dealing with 2 very small children the pressure was adding up. It was not pressure or responsibility that he could just shoot away. He did this for this families survival. Undoubtedly, amanda gave him quite a few ultimatums. Michael chose survival over every thing else meaningful in this life. So, now his only meaning is in vinewood action movies. Where the hero looks good and fights evil. Trevor was in the air force, he loved to fly. It was freedom, it was love. One day, trevor failed a psyche eval and that love was taken from him. At his lowest point, Trevor found someone that inspired him. Someone, that showed him that life had meaning if you took care of the people close to you. No matter the different 4 the, Michael, Trevor and lester had a family. Michael had a fire in his eyes and was unapologetic about you misunderstanding him. I could go on but michael was not always devin weston. So franklin has 2 dads with 2 paths. Trevor has an honesty problem, in world that wants anything but that. He is the living embodiment of (wearing your feelings on your sleeve) And there is no one too far gone that Trevor does not try and save.. Wades cousin, is a sad , pathetic, waste of space. He lives with no dignity or self respect. As lost as he is , Trevor still tries to help him and saves him.. Hell tell you what he thinks about wades cousin but he still sees something redeemable in him. Michael is redeemable BC if they worst of us is redeemable, then so is Trevor. I can not wait till your play this game when you are older. Im not going give you all I find in this ingenious narrative bc its beyond good.. In the scene , where michaels son tells him the truth of how he feels about him. You seem to think, its missed humor!? Its not humor at all.. His son, seeing him ,as a sad drunk, breaks his heart and he wants to cry but has this macho pride and power fantasy of reacting like an action star. All he manages is this defense. mechanism. Sarcasm. I mean it absolutely is from of humor but it wasn't put there to make you laugh. This humor absolutely hits its mark in showing how much what this son said bothered him
GTAV feels like it's a final away from being the end. Whether it's Tanisha getting targeted, Trevor losing his mind or Michael ensuring his identity stays dead by any means to keep his family safe - there's a final few hours missing.
It is one of the reasons why the story is so memorable, because you still have some space to imagine, not to mention the characters simply being more memorable than IV's.
@@thirdhandlv4231I mean what you said isn't an opinion it's just objectively wrong. I get the feeling you don't remember 4s characters because you were born after it releases
Man! You’ve done such a good job covering a game that I have dismissed in the past due to how loud and clumsy it can come across as. Even though I really love GTA IV, I have come out of this video with new appreciation for GTA V and it’s vision. I’m looking forward for your mini essay videos, it sounds like a cool idea. Keep it up dude! 👍
While I do see where you're coming from with the criticism that the game essentially tries to take on too much political commentary at once and ends up falling flat of anything meaningful or comical, I interpret the world of GTA V more as a satirical parody of America as a whole, in essence one giant political commentary instead of hundreds. And if you interpret it that way, I think the game does a great job. The world is essentially a depiction of the worst of what America has to offer, and I think that's why the game doesn't really have any sort of "left" or "right" agenda. I think it's more meant to sort of expose the moral contradictions of America by parodying everything. I think the best example of this is with the TV show Fame Or Shame and the mission where Michael and Trevor save Tracey from auditioning. Fame Or Shame is obviously a parody of shows like America's Got Talent and X-Factor where contestants perform for judges who either berate them and crush their dreams or give them praise, and it's all dramatized for the sake of "good TV". Lazlow is a parody of Hollywood personalities who exploit their power and get rich without doing anything particularly meaningful while many people living in poverty work their asses off. There's no real political agenda behind it. It's simply a parody of American entertainment and TV personalities to expose how fucked up it really is. Now you can argue that the way the game parodies more controversial topics like income inequality, feminism, and racism might have left and right agendas behind them, but I would actually argue that they don't because I don't think the game itself ever really takes a stance on any of these topics. For example, the cutscenes with Franklin's feminist aunt and her friends jogging down the sidewalk while chanting feminist phrases. These cutscenes are not meant to depict the notion that feminism is good or bad. It is once again just a satirical mockery of feminist protests. One might argue that just that notion alone has a "right" agenda attached to it, but I think that it falls right in line with the rest of the mockery throughout the game, and thus it's simply just another piece of the puzzle, the whole puzzle being America. I believe that the world of GTA V should be taken seriously in the same way that a comedy should be taken seriously. The jokes are not necessarily meant to be taken seriously, but they are based around serious topics and the topics are the subjects of mockery and absurdity. Personally, I found all of the jokes hilarious and I appreciated how they took serious, controversial topics and handled them in a way that was light-hearted.
how tho ? it was all mostly satirical with no real message behind it. it was mostly just "capitalism bad, celebrities and the world is brainwashed and soulless" like this isn't basic stuff people say about the world on the daily
@@mithvibes4727I found it funny. You also have to take into consideration the game’s age. In 2013, contemporary celebrity culture and the Los Angeles way of life was somewhat fresh
Lol im 10 minutes in and i got that vibe. Im just gonna cut it off. No wonder he writes so many pages on these games, hes just talking in circles with his grandiose thoughts
That point about playing differently when using a specific character really resonated with me... I remember my first couple of playthroughs, I would only play golf with michael, stole more cars with franklin and was generally less upset when trevor died compared to the others furing free roam.. even with clothing and vehicles I made conscious or sub conscious decisions to buy certain things because to me... this is something trevor would drive or franklin would buy or michael would wear etc
Great analysis! I just came here after completing my first playthrough i can't believe i watched this hour long video straight up and didn't feel bored
I love this game a lot amd this retrospective made me appreciate a lot. Great work on it! How I see this story, in my eyes at least, is that it's a tale of three anti-heroes, not villians or heroes, getting their own type of redemption after falling down from grace. The uneasy friendship of Michael, Trevor, and Franklin is what helps them come out top during "Deathwish", thanks to Franklin realizing that if he choose the other paths, he would end causing himself to fall into the same path Michael did at the begining of the game: A traitor. He basically allows Micheal and Trevor to have a new life, with Michael being able to have a successfully family and do his dream job and Trevor able to be the "legitimate" businessman. I also see C being the ending where the main characters can finally get out of the "set-up" from the main bad guys. The mission is literally called Deathwish for a reason, but thanks to the comradery between them, they perservere.
What's left without the humor? Psychology. The flashiness of GTA as a brand covers up the depth of the characters. That's why I think this game works and is so polarizing simultaneously. It's good at passing as surface level while almost always dealing with real issues on a level that requires analysis, which is exactly why meandering politically by jabbing at common extremes is probably the most pragmatic choice. I personally don't think the bit with Jimmy talking about getting his shit together actually portrayed failed humor affecting the scenario. There's a big difference between a legitimate joke and one that's meant to fail. I would consider that the greatest fault of this game; It makes a statement more than trying to have likeable characters a lot, but if you get past trying to be appealed to, which is definitely jabbed at by certain voice lines, then the character's generally give you a reason to like them by the end of the game. In a sense, this emphasizes the first (post-intro) portion of this vid; Going for the idea of "this character reminds you of someone you know" rather than "hey, I like this guy, let's remember this guy" emphasizes the sense of "oh, this is like real life but with a safe sense of catharsis in breaking away from the norm." I kind of preferred GTA San Andreas because the characters made it seem more fun, but I respect GTA5 more because the characters actually make me consider how they function as real people, and it is kind of wild to be getting that much psychological nuance from a series criticized for being bad for kid's mentalities by people who don't actually understand video games. Idk, something about Tracey singing about how she doesn't want to have daddy issues on national television did make me go "hey, look, this moment of vulnerability in this sea of shit is actually kind of beautiful. I get why it's so hard to get there when nobody ever learned how to be vulnerable."
I was always starved for content like this about RDR1 when I was a superfan and played it every year for years. We're living in a good time for game appreciation and academic analytics
You deserve so many more views man. I was looking for background noise to listen to while re twisting my dreads and this is now a series I’ll be looking for. Just earned a new subscriber
I love this game because I can see myself as young Franklin trying to get up in the world (less the crimes), and working hard to make something out of myself, going from meaningless job working up the latter until where I am now. Which leads me to see myself as Michael, a washed up has been who made it to the top and suddenly finds himself bored with life, (minus the crime), I struggled a lot to get to where I am today in a better place than I could ever imagine but I am bored, the joy of life is gone. I am a loving father, husband and family member but I feel empty inside. Which leads me to see myself as Trevor a maniac who wants to let loose (minus the drugs, crime and violence). I don't see Trevor as a maniac I see myself in Trevor as someone not having a care in the world, gling back to your roots after having made it. Kind of how Frank Reynolds in the show Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia despite being a multi millionaire lives with Charlie in extreme poverty to get in touch with his roots. Trevor lives in a filthy trailer, not a care in the world. He does what he wants when he wants and just is. I find myself bored with responsibility, the routine of the rat race and miss the energy I had when I was young making my way in the world. Sometimes I just want to bug out and disappear, get in touch with my roots and be nobody in a nameless trailer park. I would never abandon my family though, I love my kids too much. Maybe when they are older I can bug out and live like a caveman. But that is the beauty of video games. You can live out your fantasy without doing it. I have played this campaign over ten times. I enjoy it every single time.
Honestly, i think the making fun of radical liberals in this game (as well as super conservatives) has aged well even if the execution wasnt great to begin with. Nowadays, radical liberals and white priviledged starbucks feens calling everything racist is the absolute center of our political paradigm
I really hate how the ignorant GTA 4 community just acts like this game is too immature GTA V arguably has more mature and deep moments than GTA 4. GTA 4 isn't even that deep. Niko doesn't wanna do bad things. Does bad things anyway. Now he sad. That's GTA 4 in a nutshell
finally someone's said this. I love gta 4 but jesus christ is the community fucking annoying. it's like they don't even try to understand the other titles in the series, they expect all of them game to have the same tone as 4 does and when they see that almost every game has a different tone, they just label them as "immature", "childish" etc. bunch of annoying dumbfucks.
Couldn’t disagree more about the story and characters, the narrative has aged like fine wine due to how it captures our modern day culture through the internet, celebrity’s, and entertainment industries
That's not a feature of the narrative but a result of the story being set when it was. All satire captures the culture of when it was written... but the story itself, beyond the satirical aspect, is pretty lacking
how tho ? it was all mostly satirical with no real message behind it. it was mostly just "capitalism bad, celebrities and the world is brainwashed and soulless" like this isn't basic stuff people say about the world on the daily
I mean, sure, the satire is good. The story itself is still bad, though. The satire is just an element of the story and doesn't make or break it in and of itself.
The creator of this video seems to have conflated their own lack of finding the game funny with its overall merits in terms of humor as far as mass audiences go. Most people find this game very funny, I don't think that's a hot take at all. I can't imagine trying to equate not being able to pin down a team of writers' political stances with the game not succeeding at being funny. What a strange set of criteria to have. For my money, much of the humor in GTAV is derived from how difficult it is to piece together a well-consiered set of beliefs from the tangled mess of conflicting information we receive from the both extreme sides of the political aisle as Americans each and every day. That was the simple, ever-present punchline that kept me laughing at the game's jokes regardless of whose expense they were at. I also can't agree with the creator's stance on the game's perceived lack of timelessness. I just finished the game again for the first time since launch, and many of the topics it covers feel even more relevant to me personally than ever before.
friiick I keep forgetting to leave a comment on this. Yo this is a fantastic exploration of GTAV within the context of its series. And that ethics prof story was so good lol btw, I cannot relate enough to the feelings you exhibited after taking the night to finish up the video. So weird how passion on video projects kinda reverse bell-curves. Congrats on getting through it!
Literally forgot Tanesha existed. Interest concept (but cliched) to have the black woman who grew up around gangs leave that life. Too bad she doesn't have any real character development.
I watch a lot of RUclips channels about film analysis, like "Filmento", "Every frame a painting", etc...but, I've been looking for similar channels for videogames, and finally...finally I've found one, I really appreciate your take on this game, I enjoyed and relate to your analysis on GTA V, looking forward to the Red dead redemption video, you've earned yourself a subscriber.
Yup, he keeps going on about some "responsibility" the game should take, or an "authorial stance". But that's not the point, the humor in GTA is supposed to showcase the absurdity of and state of American politics, not pick a side or show any moral leanings. It lets the player digest it however they want. That's it.
I just stumbled upon this video, and I love your analysis, I think you do a great job of throwing academic words in there but still keep the whole conversation at the level of talk you could have at the coffee table, I love it
The game isn’t bad. It’s just been overplayed. I remember the first time seeing it and being amazed at the graphics, new story with three different main characters, and limitless activities to do. Imagine if we had to play GTA IV for 10 years before the next release, we’d pick it apart relentlessly too. It’s not the game per se, but rather the devs milking every last nickel, dime, and penny out of it.
The story in 5 vs 4's is a night and day difference. The plot and characters in 5 seemed to try everything in their power to be as loud, shallow, and obnoxious as possible because 12 year olds find that hilarious, but 4 actually tried to make you care.
@@MCoconut97 As far as side characters go, yes. Then again it was the point I guess since they satirized Americans and their culture, but still doesn't change the fact they're annoying.
@@Aryan_Psycho88 If you actually sat down and played GTA 4 and 5 back to back, you would know exactly what I'm talking about as both games have polar opposite approaches to how they write their characters. With 5 they opted for everyone to be very silly, over the top, and more like one-dimensional stereotypes of Americans rather than the more down to earth approach 4 took. 4 was a serious crime drama that tried to put you into the shoes of the protagonist and take him seriously, thus characters involved with him felt grounded and fleshed out as well. 5 tries to be an American sitcom and thus the characters are less like genuine fleshed out people and are simply there to crack (not that funny) jokes/drive the action forward. Fine if you don't care about characters or story as much, but you can't say this approach compares to 4.
@@Aryan_Psycho88 Uh, not so fast. 5 had some of the most glaring issues and even some of the worst ai in the series such as: -Aiming at 1 pedestrian makes everyone around the person instantly run and scream in perfect sync even when they don't see you, making them feel technically bugged and automatic/artificial -Most pedestrians die in 1 punch and put up NO fight, thus hand to hand combat is worse than 3's from ****2001**** -Police have auto targeting pistols that lock on at ridiculous distances -The physics/ai for cop pit manuevers is unbelievably horrid and lazy (they mostly ram the back of your car blindly while your front tires are programmed to snap sideways because the devs were to lazy to put in proper physics that made sense) Again, worse than the FIRST 3D GTA -Animals are programmed to trigger the wanted level if they see you comit crimes in the middle of nowhere (this is not a joke, this is actually in the game files) -Aiming is not nearly as snappy or precise as 4's, largely thanks to the aim "smoothing" they added that gives it delayed acceleration (with mouse+keyboard it's probably better, but GTA games have a greater emphasis on driving than third person shooting mechanics, and driving is better with a controller) -The wait time to get rid of a 1 star wanted level is now about 3x longer than 4's, adding tedium to the gameplay (and no, having to wait in a safe area for 3x longer doesn't make it more challenging, it's just boring) -For the first time in the series, they were too lazy to add patroling cop cars to the game, they only spawn when wanted, otherwise they magically don't exist in the universe -Traffic ai is either bugged or intentionally broken to add artificial difficulty (the traffic sometimes tries to randomly swerve into your lane to hit you if you drive at high speeds) -I heard they added artificial difficulty in other areas, (I'm 90% sure police magically detecting your general area even when hidden) and I don't doubt that considering the other problems I mentioned with ai) And GTA 4 had the best gameplay in the series in several ways, like how dynamic the physics are, how brutal the combat feels, great sound design for weapons in gunfights, and having by FAR the best cheat system (simply dial a cheat once, and boom, select it at any time on the phone's menu). Not to mentions ai/physics that worked properly which were downgraded or butchered in 5 like I previously pointed out.
Still love the story of V to this day and appreciate it even more now that I’m older. It has its flaws and rockstar has fucked up online so bad but story mode is still the best. When I was young I really liked Michael but honestly every character is the best especially Trevor
Dude David, this was an incredible analysis of a game that I loved playing, thought had a pretty good narrative, but also fell short on some key aspects in “rockstars philosophy” or whatever the hell we choose to call it. Honestly I kind of just put this on as something to listen to while doing the dishes, and actually had to stop the video, finish my task, and then come back to with a cup of tea, and comfy seat. Bra-fucking-vo brother. I would say unequivocally your English Lit. Education has not gone to waste in the slightest with this engaging masterpiece.
13:12 the fundamental problem with RDR 2 is that it lacks this, you get severely punished for interacting with the world in any way beyond "ThAt'S a NiCe HoRsE mIsTeR" and while it might be immersive and thematically on-point, its no fun at all
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RDR2 was never made to be GTA in the Wild West though
@ true, but it also doesn't have the mechanics needed for me to take any kind of roleplay seriously, so it's just this awkward in-between point where it wants me to RP but RPing isn't fun or rewarding
Hey David, I have commented on youtube maybe less than a handful of times since the platform launched. I want to take a moment and thank you for all your videos, I came across this one due to a post in the subreddit but have since started to watch all your videos. Huge fan of long/essay form videos and analysis so it's all right up my alley. I am looking forward to your future videos and wish you all the best in your youtube endeavours as I think there is a very big audience for this content yet untapped, it's a niche you are really good at and hope to see capitalize on it. A few notes, if I may: - Really enjoy the balance of subjective and objective as you do your videos, I find this point hard to articulate, but often it's really easy for these videos to lean heavily (or try to) in one direction and they tend to lose their charm. Taken to their extreme, they just become akin long form review or a cold statement of historical facts about the title. - This seems to get better in the new videos, but the pacing and organization of your older videos was at times harder to follow. (Pointing this out, because kudos on improving) Your audio quality is superb and you have a naturally pleasing voice/tone. - Some visual aid at times might help the flow of your ideas/video, especially when you reference an event or a theme in a few different sections of the video. Nothing crazy, just a keyword, a cycle/graph etc anything to support the specificity of what is being discussed. I am very visual and end up scrolling back and forth to take notes or think about something and I noticed channels that do even a rudimentary attempt at visualization make it much easier to follow. - A few bullet points that pop up, or references on the screen if possible would go a long way. You mentioned the pervasiveness of the western in your RDR video, while I understood the main point as you highlighted that in the beginning of the video, it might carry nuance that I might have missed because the western trope can differ drastically from a within a NA context to a EU context, on both the account of the individual consuming the trope and how the setting is applied by a creator. A few specific examples would have driven that point home. Just an example of an easy to overlook detail that can add more layers to your work on repeat watches. (I doubt I am the only one who watched this more than once, it's far too difficult to consume an analysis video in one sitting imo) Don't mean to come across nit-picky or anything, just trying to provide respectful feedback. Tried to proof-read the best that I could but It's almost 430AM and I need to be in bed but had to pause your RDR video to make this comment before I forget lol. Once again, thank you for your content and more importantly, your time if you have read this. Cheers.
Thanks for the kind comment. I read through all of this and there’s a lot of good stuff. I’m trying to get better at the visual part of these videos, but I’ll be the first to admit I’m not great at editing or really even wanting to polish the visuals. I do like the idea of adding just pictures or text that emphasizes points though, I’ll keep that in mind. These kinda comments are the ones that help and let me realize what I’m doing is valued and appreciated, so thank you. Hope to see you around in other videos / discord / live-streams.
Thank for taking the time to read that, hope you find it useful next time you make a video! You sure will be seeing me in more of your future content now that I am semi-caught up on your channel. Cheers.
When you approach GTAV from a leftist city bound perspective, you misread all of the point of it. You have to view it from outside of California, and outside of Los Angeles. Also, you need to understand that California is a failed state, and LA is a perfect example as to why. Those are the first things you need to come to terms with. While V doesn't have the tent cities of illegal aliens, drug addicts, and homeless veterans, it represents the general ethos of it. Which is more prophetic than any politician, pundit, or glorified commentator. I'm posting this in 2022, and Rockstar's view of a fictionalized future of LA is so perfectly on point, it's astounding. I appreciate that you analyzed this game, based on your institutional education, but your review hasn't aged well. Rockstar actually p0wned you within the game itself. What would the three protagonist think of LA today? What would their reactions be...now? Pretty much exactly how the story mode plays out.
I guess the best way to play gta 5 is never to take it seriously. It never takes itself seriously. In that lens, it making fun of everything is appropriate. I agree that gta 4 had the better narrative, no doubt. However, Gta 5 does have its charm in my opinion because it is a romp more than anything else.
I always thought the way the characters could withstand dozens of bullets to the head and still then not being identified and arrested was pretty funny
32:30 To answer your question, no I don't often change my in-game behavior depending on which protagonist I play as. I believe I am a special case though, as I often play as different peds than the main protagonists. Gangsters, police, or others. This detaches me from the story, thus making me improvise in regards to roleplay. As Trevor, I use his airport as a personal hanger and fly from Sandy Shores to Los Santos and back.
For first point I'm opposite As European I don't have privilege of seeing huge cities and highways too often. All I see is monotonous old Town, small houses and narrow roads every single day - gta was always series where I could live life as if I was in actually huge city. Drive huge semi on highway while seeing skyscrapers and all that. And that's why gta 5 kind of disappointed me - in San andreas amount of roleplaying mechanics made game very immersive, while it still felt like a satire. Gta 5 is just satire. No longer world you can live in and more of a sandbox. I don't need all rdr2 mechanics, but more buildings you can enter/interact with would make world feel more alive
"somehow, someway, Rockstar managed to make an absurd openworld mayhem simulator" yes actually.. GTA was always about that.. in fact, in the first GTA, it's "story mode" was nothing but just optional side quests.. GTA story mode didn't really take forefront until the later games, and even then they always made sure the game is chaos first, story second.. so this definitely makes sense..
Good video but I honestly think you didn't understand Rockstars take on it. It's meant to be a clusterfuck of weird and over the top jokes about EVERY aspect of modern america. It doesn't have a political stance. It's only purpose is and always was a fuck you to america from some british blokes.
Niko Bellic and even Luis Fernando Lopez are the rational straight-man style of protagonists, who both lead directly to John Marston and Arthur Morgan of Red Dead Redemption. Rockstar decided that didn't work for GTA games, so for GTAV the protagonists are borderline psychopaths who could either be good OR believably go on a rampage.
I thought Niko Bellic worked great in the world of GTA. He was surrounded by absurd side characters but him being the straight man made his impactful scenes that much more meaningful to me.
I like your videos and the way you go in depth analysis about the characters and their gamesI can actually sit down and watch the full length witch I don't do. Anyways please keep at it.
People who say gta v is shit and ruined the gta series are just blinded by nostalgia, it's story, though not as dark as gta iv, is still deep and has many great moments and is great on its own right
But if you actually examine all of the game's gameplay mechanics, you'd realize it is shit and worse than previous entries. C* killed the series with gta online too.
@@BDozer666 you're on every gta video where you keepshitting on gta v with that long ass rant where you start "imagine if gta iv and gta sa had a child but it actually ended up being retarded" I've seen you on reddit as well, you're very active on r/gtaiv and you shit on gta v there as well, get a life man, it's not worth convincing everyone. I have to say, i strongly disagree with your statement but the first sentence in your rant was hilarious
@@BDozer666 you're so obsessed with gta v, in this video, you've commented on all comments who said "gta v is the best" or something similar, the gta circlejerks like you have gotten too far
I easily identify with Trevor, I know so many people in my life who are different levels of crazy just like him. Truly need to play that damn game again thank for bringing back some serious nostalgia
Congratulations on completing the “Book of Rockstar Games.” I thoroughly enjoyed the entire series, with my favorite part being Grand Theft Auto4. Overall, the series was great and in-depth learning a lot. It would seem Rockstar really encapsulates four important parts of American history. RDR being the beginning of civilization and the end of the west, LA Noire being the end of WW2 and 1950’s prosperity in America, GTA 4 being the end of the Balkan Wars and the entering of an immigrant into America during the 2008 financial crisis then finally GTA V really captures the same financial and housing crisis in LA/Los Santos along with government corruption. The problem with GTA V seemed to be Rockstar making a large, Hollywood action series bombastic and grandiose game yet... due to that, the failed. In terms of a video game, GTA V nails it. A game you can just get on after work and school messing around to blow off some steam due to its immense amount of activity compared to its predecessor with news guns, planes/helicopters, vehicles etc. Yet, that’s where the story failed. The story was basically a re-hash of bank movies like The Italian Job and other mob movies. They Michael to be this wise soothsayer who already knows life yet he’s still confused about it. Trying to teach the son he never had, Franklin. I wish you delved more into the theme of mid-life crisis as it’s a prevalent theme among Michael and Trevor, as they’re polar opposites. GTA V has become the game where RUclipsrs love messing around with mods and the like for gaining millions of views. The game lost its core and now its a silly game to mess around with. Which is why I think Rockstar went back to a more emotional and heartbreaking story in RDR2, similar to GTA 4. In conclusion, GTA V is the weakest of Rockstar games but it’s still a silly game to mess around with for an hour or two then turn off. Thoroughly enjoyed the series as a whole. I would recommend watching BrokerCast analysis of GTA 4 and he too, analyzed many of the Rockstar games as you but in a 2 hour video. So please watch when you have the time. Thank you for the series as I have learned a lot and looked at these games along with video games as a whole with a different in-depth philosophical perspective.
Don't compare red dead to gta, red dead redemption, as it explains in the title, is the "outlaw with a heart of gold" story, so it made sense for r* to chose a more serious story for red dead
As a non american, my main problem with GTA games is how brain dead the combat is... i was completely enamored with San Andreas when i was a kid, just because it had a gripping story,, memorable characters and an unprecedented level of player freedom. But i always thought that Combat is the weakest aspect especially after having a taste of how combat can be in other games. I expected them to change things a bit in V but they didn't and the story wasn't as good as SA to compensate.
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One of the weird things about this game is that between sessions or running over pedestrians, intentionally provoking car accidents and shooting cops I still feel obliged to go out of my way to recover that stolen wallet or purse for some random person on the street.
Or go to therapy as Michael
@@josephstalin2606 yep same
consider it their good deed for the day
@mcpoopman I don’t know why I don’t do that
Gives a moral justification to murder.
GTA 5 has plenty of genuinely comedic moments. I'll forever get a smirk thinking about the cutscene where Trevor trips over Franklin's garden fence lol. Or basically anytime Trevor and Lamar talk.
When where Trevor tips is actually improvised and they went with it. Makes it even more hilarious ahaha.
There are funny moments, but I think what DavidOZ was explaining is that there are also a lot of missed hits when it comes to humor in the games story
oH he liEeD to mE 🎶
I still laugh every time i hear lamar say "nigaaaaaa"
Franklin and Lamar have the best chemistry, which makes sense since they're lifelong friends. I'm glad the writers were able to convey that fact through the dialogue. You can tell they harbor some animosity towards each other but in the end would take a bullet for the other.
Imagine getting your son a game he's been begging for, and once you finally buy it, the first scene is BDSM.
What does BDSM mean
Ha, sweet
@Christoochi You aint old nigga you're like 29
@@pipelayer859 oh dear god
Introverted Wifi *"...remember...don't tell your mother!"...*
42:00 I also notice in the final missions if you choose to kill Michael, Trevor will not help you but if you choose to kill Trevor, Michael does help you. Really depressing to think the only person that makes Trevor feel human would turn his back at any moment. Understandable considering how Trevor is but still very sad.
I think its more of a code Trevor has. Trevor ,in all his sadistic nature , suprisingly has a code of never betray and he is loyal. This is why he hates michael in the end of the game and "wants" to kill him but when Franklin chooses to go after Michael Trevor will hate Franklin too.
Whoa Trevor loves michael that's why you assume he hates michael. He doesn't hate michael , he hates what michael has become. It is sad.
But Trevor is the moral compass of the game.
Trevor's path is the right path.if you kill trevor ... Michael tells franklin that surviving is winning and that's all there is. Franklin at 25 has become as jaded and cynical as michael at 45.
If franklin kills michael he immediately seeks to reconnect with Lamar who despite being an idiot has always been loyal. Trevor sees his relationship with michael in Lamar and franklin.
He sees lamar only wanting to seek love and respect from franklin and franklin tossing him aside.
Thank you for "bullet tantrums"!
You should watch TheProfessional's video on why Dimitri betrayed Niko. He goes on comparing Dimitri's psychopathy with Trevor's sociopathy.
To sum up his video, psychopaths are liars and manipulators. They are sadistic, just like sociopaths.
The first difference is that sociopaths are obvious while psychopaths take a long time to figure out they're psychopaths.
Second, sociopaths don't care if they die while psychopaths does everything they can to remain alive so that they keep on inflicting pain and suffering to others.
Third, sociopaths just don't care they're inflicting pain on others while psychopaths enjoy it.
Fouth, sociopaths have a certain moral code that they will never break while psychopaths don't have any.
TheProfessional's video goes on much deeper than this, and my summary of his video doesn't do enough justice on his explanation. You should totally watch the video, it's called "Why Does Dimitri Betray Niko? The Real Reason".
@@Chessheromusic Trevor's path is the right path? Damn this a twisted world we in LOL
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Dutch van der Linde ahh
Patricia was genuinely in love with Trevor. I never thought there was any real doubt about that
Yeah
Not to think that Martin Madrazo is really afraid of Trevor
So am i...
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@@salmamoustafa9468 ? lol wait.. ur in love with trevor??
@@alexivy8732 me!?
The two bad endings are one of the few moments when the game actually takes itself seriously
Maybe the true ending is the friends we made along the way.
Yea the ending where u kill Trevor makes the most sense IMO
@@MichaelJohnson-be7jo i mean if u look at the type of people trevor and Michael are , a sell out and a deranged man that wants things to go back to the way they are, it makes sense to kill either one. what lesson did you/franklin learn , do u become a sellout and kill trevor to tie up a lose end or do u chose loyalty over all and kill the sell out.
@@joshuabreurken2424 There was a moment where I was in first person mode leaving ammunation and Trevor randomly pops up to hang (right before The Big Score I think). I decline because I wanted to get to the mission. I start randomly talking to a girl outside of the store and he's around the corner. I guess I bump Trevor some how by accident and he wasted me. Made me choose to kill him. He's too unpredictable. I hate Michael overall for him being a snake but Trevor's liability level was way too high for me. Honestly I feel like the only reason people love C so much is because it gives all the characters a chance to shine and it's a happy ending but realistically you don't let a Trevor live.
@@corneliusrawness That's exactly how I feel about the 'kill Trevor ending'
Realistically if we were put into Franklin's or Michael's shoes in the game's last moments we'd waste Trevor in a heartbeat. I mean there's a reason the FIB ask you to kill him beyond "it's personal" like it is for Devin wanting Michael dead.
To me, I always felt the humor was supposed to be rhetorical. It's a producer's chance to show the people playing it what they're really like. It's like when Kojima made everyone play as Raiden in MGS2 because everyone just wanted to play as Snake (an augmented, superior version of themself) instead of some green kid (you, the player).
No one gets this! It's a parody. The Housers are British and it's been long known that gta is designed to make fun of American culture. Not pick a side, but literally joke about the absurdities of the extremes of all of us.
If you think about it, if someone was a GTA character IRL, they'd probably be a walking copy of Trevor
The story in this game is so overlooked. That shit in Ludendorff was some of the tensest shit I've played recently. Rockstar is the king of world design and storytelling, not online.
@Jokūbas Varanauskas 🧢
@Menace to society My dude wrote a whole paragraph with horrible grammar just to say GTA V is bad and that GTA IV is better. Damn, we really got dumber.
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial gta iv is better but yeah
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you mean overrated? plot is so cheap and boring and three main characters are just stupid weirdos
This man went crazy. Trevor and Lamar are the funniest people in the game. whenever they were one scene i was hyped.
my fav characters
almost everything lamar says is hilarious
@@anchorbubba the best is when lamar meets devin westin 🤣
Lamar: “ay don’t touch me, I don’t get down like that”
Devin: “…. Yeah let me tell you how the world works slim” 🤣🤣🤣
I agree!
The humor for me comes from the fact that it's made by a bunch of Scottish people from the UK who are taking the absolute piss out of America. All the social commentary in the GTA games comes from that outsider perspective. It's what the scots call "patter" or "banter". It's biting, but also good natured. That's why there's no single political message, it's them looking at America from the outside, like watching monkeys in a zoo.
That feeling you like from Niko being an outsider? Every game was made through that lens irl.
Houser is from the US
@@jskillz7239 The Houser brothers are English.
As a British person I 100% agree
Absolutely, the voice actors even said that the script gets written in formal english snd then they are instructed to adjust it with american slang, thay's how "unamerican" gta is.
And as an "outsider" I agree with you, gta shows how america looks like from the outside, especially the the in-game radio commercials, talk shows and tv, think about it next time you're playing, it's not even satire, it's a combination of americam stereotypes combined together. Imagine if americans made a game set in England in which you have to go to the pub and get shitfaced and then you have to avoid getting jumped by hooligans on your way home, that's pretty much how we perceive gta.
This is why the satire is so good at targeting both the political stands, neither the american right nor the american left are like our european counterparts, they both look insane to us. Conservatives are all hilariously evil,
hand-steepling corporate moguls who publicly rant
about hating gays, immigrants and the crippled. Liberals,
meanwhile, are all Urban-shopping hipsters with condescending attitudes and total lack of self-awareness about their hypocrisy and double standards. Cops are all murderous psychos who scream about how killing people makes them hard, both gta 4 and lcs had police recruiting ads that implied that you should join the force so that you have an excuse to shoot at people. Then there's the proudly made in america muscle cars that get advertized with eagle screeches, a german beer called pisswasser that isn't consumed in Germany but is exclusively produced to be exported to the US, the burger shot "heartstopper" burger, that crazy antismoking ad from san andreas that makes fun of america's super strict smoking bans ("we will ban smoking even in your own house", it was 2004 and recently San Francisco tried to do it for real), the jack howitzer movie trailers that make fun of american 80s flicks either set in Vietnam or some other cold war related scenario...
Nah the dialogue in this game is hilarious & feels authentic, something alot games struggle with is realistic or funny dialogue, even the cutscenes in this game are memorable.
Amazing take. Not everything has to be dark and gritty like gta 4
GTA 5 easily has the best character interactions. Best part of the game
Not at all, it's like a movie. A cheesy, unrealistic action movie.
@@Jiub_SNIt’s a video game, why does it have to be 100% realistic my guy. Most of your favorite stories aren’t realistic.
@@Jiub_SNI’ll say that it’s 50/50. Some of the dialogue is fucking horrendous, and then other times it comes off as being very natural
2:47 the game is so self aware, trevor is basically this character
Franklin doesn't really codeswitch. He just acts more polite. His dialect doesn't all of a sudden change just cause he's treating an old friend nicely
It is cannon actually for Trevor to go on rage fueled rampages. Or rampages just for fun.
My favorite was when I switched to Trevor at one point and he was screaming at some bicyclists and I was compelled to run them over simply because...well, Trevor lined it up and I didnt see why I shouldnt take the shot.
@@UntrusiveThoughts “go take your bicycles to France!”
Makes sense, seems like a lot of his range comes from being offended from people acknowledging that he’s Canadian
@@TrapHausCreo that happened like once, a lot a of times it just happened for no reason
I like to think they are illusions similar to the one he had of his mother
Seriously underappreciated channel, these videos are great. Keep up the good work
I wish there was more game analysis. Especially like this one. I think he should do character analysis. Like Dutch from rdr2 and Trevor and Michael from gta 5. Cj from san andreas. I think character analysis is better but a game analysis is greatly appreciated.
Go to his red dead analysis he’s a complete spy boy.
It's a great game with a lot of effort put into it. It feels like Rockstar wanted this to be their Grand opus. But because the game has 3 playable characters, some things feel left out of focus. I mean, once Trevor joins the story, Franklin is kind of left in the background. He automatically gets a big mansion by just doing one mission. The game's antagonists are interesting, but they don't get much screen time. The desert that Trevor lives in feels empty, despite it having bikers and meth heads. Missed opportunities for drug wars. The ballas are underused in this game. I was hoping Franklin would take over balla territory and start wars.
The game is great, but the story kinda feels empty and mediocre. Its hard to tell what I exactly mean, but I'll try. Personally I think that the game is too sarcastic, and I just dont like the atmosphere too much. Its a decent idea to make a parody of Los Angeles with all the fake celebrity stuff, but personally I would've liked something else. The game parodises some things so much that it feels outdated nowadays. The map is great, but the desert and mountains feel empty, even tho they make like 70% of the map (The city is great tho). The characters were good, but not as good as some other Rockstar's characters (Arthur Morgan, Niko etc.). I didnt really get same kind of bond with the characters compared to Arthur for example. The story is way too short, probably because of the 3 characters. The game is good, dont get me wrong, but isnt as great as other Rockstar games
Their grand opus ended up being Red Dead Redemption 2 and I'm glad about that
@@theunknownuser9609 Storywise, sure. Gameplay wise? Nope.
Missions in RDR 2 don't allow freedom or creative thought. Just scripted nonsense
@@frogglen6350 shut up, that’s every rockstar game. Don’t come here with opinions you gathered from other RUclips videos because you are wrong.
I think a better idea would've been to focus the narrative on just Michael and Trevor, and then R* could do a dlc similar to Ballad of Gay Tony where you play as Franklin rising up from street hustler to career criminal. Make it like an homage to San Andreas, hell make Lamar a second playable character in it too.
On the question you asked about if you act different depending on the character, when the little ambient mission come up i act differently, as franklin if i saw a guy stealing something i would help them cause hes lived that life of petty crime too, as micheal i would help the victim cause he would see such petty stuff as below him and relish the opportunity to act the good guy and as trevor i would kill everyone and take what i please cause thats pretty much his MO
Woah! I never thought of it like that but those are extremely reasonable ways to act.
I always end up acting subconsciously different playing each character to their associated behaviors, that’s a good way of putting it I guess
Ye I’m like that, I try and be the good guy with Michael as that’s what he wants to see himself as, I play like a normal person but break a few laws occasionally as Franklin and go all out as Trevor doing anything I feel like. I also play different radios depending on who I’m playing as, Michael is always Lo’s Santos rock radio, Franklin is west coast classics and Trevor is channel x or rebel radio
Trevor doesn't randomly kill
You as the player can make any of them do that.
I usually keep the wallet each time, it's only $500 and the cheap ass idiots who you return it to that were stupid enough to let themselves be mugged in the first place only give you a lousy ten percent as a reward! Screw it, I can get three times that amount robbing a 24/7!
GTA 5 shows you how pointless life is while RDR2 shows you the meaningfulness of life.
What is the center of a sphere? Well, you could say that there is no center, or you can say that every point is the center.
In an infinite universe, where is the center? Every point becomes the center. Or, no point is the center.
In much the same way, in a pointless world… every single thing becomes the point. Keep your head up squirt, every single breath you take is meaningful, if only for its own sake, you incredibly marvelous and impossible creature.
@@raxxtv1998 gay enlightenment thinking
@X_Milky gta 5’s message is that the american dream is a lie
@Flying Dutchman gta 5 has the most obvious satire lmao. Trevor and Michael both rant about capitalism and modern society at every chance they get.
@@Chuked That was gta 4’s message at first
My mom is a major rule follower and big on doing what is right morally, but I've been playing GTA V again on PS3 when I visit her house. Interestingly enough, she finds the game fascinating and appreciates how ridiculous it is. She also likes how much there is to it and how impressive the huge world is. I'm amazed to find that she likes this game lol
The political commentary is meant to be all over the place. It is meant to turn one’s own self seriousness against themselves, and point out the absurdity of politics as a whole. It is not meant to make a singular statement or give singular stances. It is meant to be taken as a whole. It’s a giant fuck you to as many people as they could.
best comment, it kinda sounds like he just didnt enjoy a few liberal jokes and then shut down trying to enjoy it. both sides are hilariously stupid, gta v points that out in everyway possible from as many perspectives as possible
@@SmokedTTSyou hit the nail on the head, the major problem is that people are so engrossed in Orwellian groupthink they can’t see the irony. It’s a pathetic state of affairs
Exactly the point I think a lot of these types of videos miss.
It's funny how I can call myself far left, but have a totally different take on the story. I thought it was HYSTERICALLY funny.
The only thing is I thought Franklin and his father-son relationship with Michael got sidelined after Trevor joins the story. So Franklin gets underdeveloped after the first third of the game.
Although Franklin gave me one of my favorite character switch moments where I switched to him and he was in his bedroom ironing socks.
That tickled me.
This is relatable
That is because it is fair when it come to making fun of each side of the political isle, I would consider my self right wing (not far right, but typically more traditional values) and I sometime get a laugh from the commentary that come from the people of Blane county
I love reading and/or watching analytical videos on the mediums i consume and having to find out about this channel is an absolute marvel to behold. You deserve far more attention imo. Lov the vids and looking forward to new ones.
Tanisha is actually real hypocrite. She is talking about friendship and all that but then she is going on some unknown doctor or some shit for herself, instead of stepping up and doing things for herself.
If you look at her lifeinvader, it isnt just her going off with a doctor or some shit but accepting his efforts to wipe out her past ties by criticizing her "hood" appearance and dialect.
She basically succeeds at cutting the ties that Franklin tried to (and eventually didnt, instead acknowledging the role those ties have in his new life).
This is why I hate Tanisha, Franklin deserves better
@@princevegeta6765 fr i ship him with molly
What? Like her doctor fiance isn't s great person but she got out of the hood. She pursued the life she wanted. She is Franklin's friend but she has to be distant because Franklin can't move on and accept her independence. Sometimes any progress is still progress.
@@StrifeSoul990 Then i guess doctor is better person than both of them combined. At least doctor didn't have relationship with murderer.
Tbh I've also always thought that the main draw of GTA 5 is that it allows you to step out of line and misbehave in a relatively realistic world in ways you'd never dare / want to in real life. Perhaps it even has a cathartic quality to it.
But that's true of all of the gta games.
V has that but not to the same extend prior games did tbh
Glad i just watched the intro. 10 minutes of my life i will never get back
That whole thing with the GTA 4 intro happened to me too. Loaded it up, so excited to play my first gta (I was like 9) and my mums sat in the room and so is my sister. First thing we hear is some guy yelling “daddy’s back bitches!” With a woman whipping him in the back. Lmao I was so embarrassed
when I was 9 I was riding my bike, exploring the woods etc..so sad you were playing GTA4. Theres a reason for the 18 rating. Hope you dont grow up to be a sociopath!
Retro Marky wtf lmao
@@RetroMarkyRM this comment is sad
@@imjonathan6745 I know. We were lucky back then. allowed to be children and use our imagination. Much safer world too. I'd leave the house and have adventures all day at 10 years old and was perfectly safe. Didn't need to be monitored and tracked. Games like this are not healthy for children. As adults they're fine btw. Just my opinion.
@@RetroMarkyRM sociopathy is actually a mental disorder that forms in the brain from birth.. it doesn’t just “pop” up, you need to do some research, GTA 4 is an amazing game and actually has some really good messages like how the American dream is just a lie so that migrants are tricked into entering this country, its a facade and this game taught me that so well
Totally forgot about run the jewels. Thanks for the reminder and the great video. I work graves at a hotel and this definitely helped to pass by audit.
I get the criticism of sexist overtones with Michael's family but when it comes to Jimmy and his racism I think it's meant to be more of an intentional criticism. Paticularly a response to the vicarious living through characters within video games or just in general through "larger-than-life" personas within media (fictional or otherwise)
I've seen people interpret this as specifically white people wanting to connect on a superficial level to "black culture" but I take it as a more of a general criticism. I think my opinion could be supported by the fact that along with living vicariously through Franklin, Jimmy also enjoys the idea of being a rugged military type considering his obsession with FPS to the point of cosplaying as a soldier with nightvision goggles and all (if you don't remember he wears it in the mission "Meltdown")
I gotta wonder if outside of the comedy of juxatposing Jimmy in a soldier outfit teabagging next to actually armed militia members is possibly making a statement on the want of the typical Blackwater (I think they've rebranded by some new stupid name recently actually but I'm not sure) soldier wanting to assume that "rugged and masculine" identity of a US soldier.
Maybe it is all for laughs and I'm reading too much into it. This is the problem with such broad political commentary.
You’re right. Jimmy is merely struggling to find out what it means to be a man so he latched onto various ideas of what a man is (Franklin & the Hood life) or being a soldier who kills for country. His only ideas of what a man should be come from media, and Michael.
@@robertsmalls2293 If you hang out with him as Franklin you can tell he struggles to connect with people and just wants to fit in and have friends. It’s really sad actually and it makes him feel like a real person since many struggle to do so. But you’d only notice that if you pay real attention to the small details which generally a lot of people don’t. They just see the comedic overtones of his story and people don’t take it seriously since it’s all for laughs but when you see the reality of it, it’s actually really sad and well written
@@josephstalin2606 Yeah, hidden behind the layers of sarcasm, satire, and irony GTAV actually has amazing writing, and character development.
@@robertsmalls2293 , what is even greater that we have smart people that can notice it
Bless the world
Dude you're young. Replay it in 5 years. Im 43 and i played in 2013 when it came out. I did not fully understand it then. I'd probably agree with a lot of your criticism.
I first thought franklin was the med ground morally.
He's not.
All gta and red dead games are completely about family,
A broken family that needs to be put back together.
Maybe the only family Trevor ever really cared about.
To understand gta 5 you first must understand who these 3 men are and why they care about each other...
You're right trevor is the saddest but he also is the most compassionate.
He is also the moral compass of the family .
I looked at them " as equals like u w 3 different outlooks.
But they care not at all.
Franklin is 25 years old in desperate need of mentorship. In desperate need of a father to guide him.
Devin westin, that name is important BC its who michael has become. Someone, that cares about people as much as they care useful. Sadly, this path started in north yankton when he betrayed his best friend to survive. Survive is the world that sums up michael . the guardian angel, Michael...saint Michael , or michael De santa. Michael townley was a different person,
He was a blue collar small town guy, the furthest things from the bullshit of vinewood and the fib.
Hell he is not even witness protection. Who was he a witness against? No, 2 clever young men , saint michael and david , beloved by god, heisted the system.
They gamed the fib and society to make a public career for dave and secret retirement score for michael.
The price of his wealth, one tiny soul of the notorious robber.
There was no way out.
He needed to get away from the risk of not being a father or worse losing his family.
With amanda dealing with 2 very small children the pressure was adding up.
It was not pressure or responsibility that he could just shoot away.
He did this for this families survival. Undoubtedly, amanda gave him quite a few ultimatums.
Michael chose survival over every thing else meaningful in this life.
So, now his only meaning is in vinewood action movies.
Where the hero looks good and fights evil.
Trevor was in the air force, he loved to fly. It was freedom, it was love. One day, trevor failed a psyche eval and that love was taken from him.
At his lowest point, Trevor found someone that inspired him. Someone, that showed him that life had meaning if you took care of the people close to you. No matter the different 4 the, Michael, Trevor and lester had a family.
Michael had a fire in his eyes and was unapologetic about you misunderstanding him. I could go on but michael was not always devin weston.
So franklin has 2 dads with 2 paths.
Trevor has an honesty problem, in world that wants anything but that.
He is the living embodiment of (wearing your feelings on your sleeve)
And there is no one too far gone that Trevor does not try and save..
Wades cousin, is a sad , pathetic, waste of space. He lives with no dignity or self respect.
As lost as he is , Trevor still tries to help him and saves him..
Hell tell you what he thinks about wades cousin but he still sees something redeemable in him. Michael is redeemable BC if they worst of us is redeemable, then so is Trevor.
I can not wait till your play this game when you are older.
Im not going give you all I find in this ingenious narrative bc its beyond good..
In the scene , where michaels son tells him the truth of how he feels about him.
You seem to think, its missed humor!?
Its not humor at all..
His son, seeing him ,as a sad drunk, breaks his heart and he wants to cry but has this macho pride and power fantasy of reacting like an action star. All he manages is this defense. mechanism. Sarcasm.
I mean it absolutely is from of humor but it wasn't put there to make you laugh.
This humor absolutely hits its mark in showing how much what this son said bothered him
Totally agree with your points more so than the guy in the video.
@@joshuadalton5441 thx man, rockstar deserves us to look deeper. I dont believe making us laugh is ever their main goal.
Great analysis Rockstar Games are brilliant 🙏
GTAV feels like it's a final away from being the end.
Whether it's Tanisha getting targeted, Trevor losing his mind or Michael ensuring his identity stays dead by any means to keep his family safe - there's a final few hours missing.
It is one of the reasons why the story is so memorable, because you still have some space to imagine, not to mention the characters simply being more memorable than IV's.
@@thirdhandlv4231you’re crazy. IV’s story is much better than V.
@@lexio9913 Go learn what an opinion is, you can then be 0.001% more educated than you are now.
@@thirdhandlv4231I mean what you said isn't an opinion it's just objectively wrong. I get the feeling you don't remember 4s characters because you were born after it releases
@@Jiub_SN Yeah i read your comment and disagreed with it, YOU ARE WRONG!
Man! You’ve done such a good job covering a game that I have dismissed in the past due to how loud and clumsy it can come across as. Even though I really love GTA IV, I have come out of this video with new appreciation for GTA V and it’s vision.
I’m looking forward for your mini essay videos, it sounds like a cool idea.
Keep it up dude! 👍
You the man, man. Thank you so much for supporting for so long.
It sucks
@@unleashedrider4309 Bruh
@@doomguy1167 bruh 8 months later
@@doomguy1167 bruh 1 year later
Usually I love analysis of this game but this guys a real nerd about it
While I do see where you're coming from with the criticism that the game essentially tries to take on too much political commentary at once and ends up falling flat of anything meaningful or comical, I interpret the world of GTA V more as a satirical parody of America as a whole, in essence one giant political commentary instead of hundreds. And if you interpret it that way, I think the game does a great job. The world is essentially a depiction of the worst of what America has to offer, and I think that's why the game doesn't really have any sort of "left" or "right" agenda. I think it's more meant to sort of expose the moral contradictions of America by parodying everything.
I think the best example of this is with the TV show Fame Or Shame and the mission where Michael and Trevor save Tracey from auditioning. Fame Or Shame is obviously a parody of shows like America's Got Talent and X-Factor where contestants perform for judges who either berate them and crush their dreams or give them praise, and it's all dramatized for the sake of "good TV". Lazlow is a parody of Hollywood personalities who exploit their power and get rich without doing anything particularly meaningful while many people living in poverty work their asses off. There's no real political agenda behind it. It's simply a parody of American entertainment and TV personalities to expose how fucked up it really is.
Now you can argue that the way the game parodies more controversial topics like income inequality, feminism, and racism might have left and right agendas behind them, but I would actually argue that they don't because I don't think the game itself ever really takes a stance on any of these topics. For example, the cutscenes with Franklin's feminist aunt and her friends jogging down the sidewalk while chanting feminist phrases. These cutscenes are not meant to depict the notion that feminism is good or bad. It is once again just a satirical mockery of feminist protests. One might argue that just that notion alone has a "right" agenda attached to it, but I think that it falls right in line with the rest of the mockery throughout the game, and thus it's simply just another piece of the puzzle, the whole puzzle being America.
I believe that the world of GTA V should be taken seriously in the same way that a comedy should be taken seriously. The jokes are not necessarily meant to be taken seriously, but they are based around serious topics and the topics are the subjects of mockery and absurdity. Personally, I found all of the jokes hilarious and I appreciated how they took serious, controversial topics and handled them in a way that was light-hearted.
I’m inclined to agree
The jokes fell flat for you, and they were hilarious to me. They help us to examine our beliefs, assumptions, and cultural and political loyalties.
Yeah but they literally cranked it all up to 1000% to the point where it just got tiresome
how tho ? it was all mostly satirical with no real message behind it. it was mostly just "capitalism bad, celebrities and the world is brainwashed and soulless" like this isn't basic stuff people say about the world on the daily
@@mithvibes4727I found it funny. You also have to take into consideration the game’s age. In 2013, contemporary celebrity culture and the Los Angeles way of life was somewhat fresh
The humor in this game is timeless and was so much ahead of its time. You resonate more with it, the more you grow up
@@GrainMuncherwhat? My guy that's not true at all lmao
“We all ded fuk it” ,a wise man once said...
Man talks about himself for 20 minutes and GTA 4 for another 20. really good analasys of gta 5.
Mf got more and more pretentious with every passing second
@@averagebofaenjoyer8576yeah and bringing his superior political takes was the cherry on top. This dude is a straight up narcissist
Fr lmao
Lol im 10 minutes in and i got that vibe. Im just gonna cut it off. No wonder he writes so many pages on these games, hes just talking in circles with his grandiose thoughts
What a waste of sixty minutes
You deserve a million subscribers, your quality of videos is top notch, I wish you the best
shit Ive rewatched the GTA4 vid just recently, now this is a great gift
Awesome! Hope you enjoyed it.
same
@@DavidOZ GTA IV analysis was awesome :D
What a fantastically underrated video. I left a huge like!
That point about playing differently when using a specific character really resonated with me... I remember my first couple of playthroughs, I would only play golf with michael, stole more cars with franklin and was generally less upset when trevor died compared to the others furing free roam.. even with clothing and vehicles I made conscious or sub conscious decisions to buy certain things because to me... this is something trevor would drive or franklin would buy or michael would wear etc
Great analysis! I just came here after completing my first playthrough
i can't believe i watched this hour long video straight up and didn't feel bored
I love this game a lot amd this retrospective made me appreciate a lot. Great work on it!
How I see this story, in my eyes at least, is that it's a tale of three anti-heroes, not villians or heroes, getting their own type of redemption after falling down from grace. The uneasy friendship of Michael, Trevor, and Franklin is what helps them come out top during "Deathwish", thanks to Franklin realizing that if he choose the other paths, he would end causing himself to fall into the same path Michael did at the begining of the game: A traitor. He basically allows Micheal and Trevor to have a new life, with Michael being able to have a successfully family and do his dream job and Trevor able to be the "legitimate" businessman. I also see C being the ending where the main characters can finally get out of the "set-up" from the main bad guys. The mission is literally called Deathwish for a reason, but thanks to the comradery between them, they perservere.
Underrated channel, you deserve more views for the amount of work you put into this. Never stop.
Playing gtav now is horrifying how accurate they were about social media
Social media was just as prevalent in 2013 as it is now.
@BionicPig95 it was absolutely not lmao
@@bidyarnovhazarika494 yes…it was. Either you weren’t even born yet or you have an incredibly short memory.
What's left without the humor?
Psychology. The flashiness of GTA as a brand covers up the depth of the characters. That's why I think this game works and is so polarizing simultaneously. It's good at passing as surface level while almost always dealing with real issues on a level that requires analysis, which is exactly why meandering politically by jabbing at common extremes is probably the most pragmatic choice.
I personally don't think the bit with Jimmy talking about getting his shit together actually portrayed failed humor affecting the scenario. There's a big difference between a legitimate joke and one that's meant to fail. I would consider that the greatest fault of this game; It makes a statement more than trying to have likeable characters a lot, but if you get past trying to be appealed to, which is definitely jabbed at by certain voice lines, then the character's generally give you a reason to like them by the end of the game.
In a sense, this emphasizes the first (post-intro) portion of this vid; Going for the idea of "this character reminds you of someone you know" rather than "hey, I like this guy, let's remember this guy" emphasizes the sense of "oh, this is like real life but with a safe sense of catharsis in breaking away from the norm." I kind of preferred GTA San Andreas because the characters made it seem more fun, but I respect GTA5 more because the characters actually make me consider how they function as real people, and it is kind of wild to be getting that much psychological nuance from a series criticized for being bad for kid's mentalities by people who don't actually understand video games.
Idk, something about Tracey singing about how she doesn't want to have daddy issues on national television did make me go "hey, look, this moment of vulnerability in this sea of shit is actually kind of beautiful. I get why it's so hard to get there when nobody ever learned how to be vulnerable."
I'm only five minutes into the video,and you've already convinced me to sub, and go watch the rest of your videos. Good job man!
The humour doesn’t fail omg what
I was always starved for content like this about RDR1 when I was a superfan and played it every year for years. We're living in a good time for game appreciation and academic analytics
You deserve so many more views man. I was looking for background noise to listen to while re twisting my dreads and this is now a series I’ll be looking for. Just earned a new subscriber
I love this game because I can see myself as young Franklin trying to get up in the world (less the crimes), and working hard to make something out of myself, going from meaningless job working up the latter until where I am now. Which leads me to see myself as Michael, a washed up has been who made it to the top and suddenly finds himself bored with life, (minus the crime), I struggled a lot to get to where I am today in a better place than I could ever imagine but I am bored, the joy of life is gone. I am a loving father, husband and family member but I feel empty inside. Which leads me to see myself as Trevor a maniac who wants to let loose (minus the drugs, crime and violence). I don't see Trevor as a maniac I see myself in Trevor as someone not having a care in the world, gling back to your roots after having made it. Kind of how Frank Reynolds in the show Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia despite being a multi millionaire lives with Charlie in extreme poverty to get in touch with his roots. Trevor lives in a filthy trailer, not a care in the world. He does what he wants when he wants and just is. I find myself bored with responsibility, the routine of the rat race and miss the energy I had when I was young making my way in the world. Sometimes I just want to bug out and disappear, get in touch with my roots and be nobody in a nameless trailer park. I would never abandon my family though, I love my kids too much. Maybe when they are older I can bug out and live like a caveman. But that is the beauty of video games. You can live out your fantasy without doing it. I have played this campaign over ten times. I enjoy it every single time.
Honestly, i think the making fun of radical liberals in this game (as well as super conservatives) has aged well even if the execution wasnt great to begin with. Nowadays, radical liberals and white priviledged starbucks feens calling everything racist is the absolute center of our political paradigm
I really hate how the ignorant GTA 4 community just acts like this game is too immature
GTA V arguably has more mature and deep moments than GTA 4.
GTA 4 isn't even that deep. Niko doesn't wanna do bad things. Does bad things anyway. Now he sad. That's GTA 4 in a nutshell
finally someone's said this. I love gta 4 but jesus christ is the community fucking annoying. it's like they don't even try to understand the other titles in the series, they expect all of them game to have the same tone as 4 does and when they see that almost every game has a different tone, they just label them as "immature", "childish" etc. bunch of annoying dumbfucks.
It is criminal how underrated this channel is.
nope
I think Dave from the beginning of gta 4 is secretly the god of the gta HD universe, only makes sense
The introduction alone made me appreciate tf outta ur channel and work
Couldn’t disagree more about the story and characters, the narrative has aged like fine wine due to how it captures our modern day culture through the internet, celebrity’s, and entertainment industries
100%
That's not a feature of the narrative but a result of the story being set when it was. All satire captures the culture of when it was written... but the story itself, beyond the satirical aspect, is pretty lacking
how tho ? it was all mostly satirical with no real message behind it. it was mostly just "capitalism bad, celebrities and the world is brainwashed and soulless" like this isn't basic stuff people say about the world on the daily
I mean, sure, the satire is good. The story itself is still bad, though. The satire is just an element of the story and doesn't make or break it in and of itself.
How you wordplay and flow with understanding to breakdown the complex world of GTA5 to a simple dialogue is to be respected 💯🤝🏾
The creator of this video seems to have conflated their own lack of finding the game funny with its overall merits in terms of humor as far as mass audiences go. Most people find this game very funny, I don't think that's a hot take at all.
I can't imagine trying to equate not being able to pin down a team of writers' political stances with the game not succeeding at being funny. What a strange set of criteria to have.
For my money, much of the humor in GTAV is derived from how difficult it is to piece together a well-consiered set of beliefs from the tangled mess of conflicting information we receive from the both extreme sides of the political aisle as Americans each and every day. That was the simple, ever-present punchline that kept me laughing at the game's jokes regardless of whose expense they were at.
I also can't agree with the creator's stance on the game's perceived lack of timelessness. I just finished the game again for the first time since launch, and many of the topics it covers feel even more relevant to me personally than ever before.
friiick I keep forgetting to leave a comment on this. Yo this is a fantastic exploration of GTAV within the context of its series. And that ethics prof story was so good lol
btw, I cannot relate enough to the feelings you exhibited after taking the night to finish up the video. So weird how passion on video projects kinda reverse bell-curves. Congrats on getting through it!
Thanks so much.
Literally forgot Tanesha existed. Interest concept (but cliched) to have the black woman who grew up around gangs leave that life. Too bad she doesn't have any real character development.
What's more sad is that she isn't too involved in the story anyways
I watch a lot of RUclips channels about film analysis, like "Filmento", "Every frame a painting", etc...but, I've been looking for similar channels for videogames, and finally...finally I've found one, I really appreciate your take on this game, I enjoyed and relate to your analysis on GTA V, looking forward to the Red dead redemption video, you've earned yourself a subscriber.
I'm not gonna lie bro, i watched this video through, and to me it kinda seems like you probably didn't like the humor because it was directed at you.
Yup, he keeps going on about some "responsibility" the game should take, or an "authorial stance". But that's not the point, the humor in GTA is supposed to showcase the absurdity of and state of American politics, not pick a side or show any moral leanings. It lets the player digest it however they want. That's it.
I just stumbled upon this video, and I love your analysis, I think you do a great job of throwing academic words in there but still keep the whole conversation at the level of talk you could have at the coffee table, I love it
The game isn’t bad. It’s just been overplayed. I remember the first time seeing it and being amazed at the graphics, new story with three different main characters, and limitless activities to do. Imagine if we had to play GTA IV for 10 years before the next release, we’d pick it apart relentlessly too. It’s not the game per se, but rather the devs milking every last nickel, dime, and penny out of it.
Great job, I’ve been waiting for this video!
The story in 5 vs 4's is a night and day difference. The plot and characters in 5 seemed to try everything in their power to be as loud, shallow, and obnoxious as possible because 12 year olds find that hilarious, but 4 actually tried to make you care.
Shallow?.. um no
@@MCoconut97 As far as side characters go, yes. Then again it was the point I guess since they satirized Americans and their culture, but still doesn't change the fact they're annoying.
@@Aryan_Psycho88 "loud, shallow, and obnoxious as possible"
Yep, I *never* explained why I found these characters annoying lol.
@@Aryan_Psycho88 If you actually sat down and played GTA 4 and 5 back to back, you would know exactly what I'm talking about as both games have polar opposite approaches to how they write their characters. With 5 they opted for everyone to be very silly, over the top, and more like one-dimensional stereotypes of Americans rather than the more down to earth approach 4 took.
4 was a serious crime drama that tried to put you into the shoes of the protagonist and take him seriously, thus characters involved with him felt grounded and fleshed out as well. 5 tries to be an American sitcom and thus the characters are less like genuine fleshed out people and are simply there to crack (not that funny) jokes/drive the action forward. Fine if you don't care about characters or story as much, but you can't say this approach compares to 4.
@@Aryan_Psycho88 Uh, not so fast. 5 had some of the most glaring issues and even some of the worst ai in the series such as:
-Aiming at 1 pedestrian makes everyone around the person instantly run and scream in perfect sync even when they don't see you, making them feel technically bugged and automatic/artificial
-Most pedestrians die in 1 punch and put up NO fight, thus hand to hand combat is worse than 3's from ****2001****
-Police have auto targeting pistols that lock on at ridiculous distances
-The physics/ai for cop pit manuevers is unbelievably horrid and lazy (they mostly ram the back of your car blindly while your front tires are programmed to snap sideways because the devs were to lazy to put in proper physics that made sense) Again, worse than the FIRST 3D GTA
-Animals are programmed to trigger the wanted level if they see you comit crimes in the middle of nowhere (this is not a joke, this is actually in the game files)
-Aiming is not nearly as snappy or precise as 4's, largely thanks to the aim "smoothing" they added that gives it delayed acceleration (with mouse+keyboard it's probably better, but GTA games have a greater emphasis on driving than third person shooting mechanics, and driving is better with a controller)
-The wait time to get rid of a 1 star wanted level is now about 3x longer than 4's, adding tedium to the gameplay (and no, having to wait in a safe area for 3x longer doesn't make it more challenging, it's just boring)
-For the first time in the series, they were too lazy to add patroling cop cars to the game, they only spawn when wanted, otherwise they magically don't exist in the universe
-Traffic ai is either bugged or intentionally broken to add artificial difficulty (the traffic sometimes tries to randomly swerve into your lane to hit you if you drive at high speeds)
-I heard they added artificial difficulty in other areas, (I'm 90% sure police magically detecting your general area even when hidden) and I don't doubt that considering the other problems I mentioned with ai)
And GTA 4 had the best gameplay in the series in several ways, like how dynamic the physics are, how brutal the combat feels, great sound design for weapons in gunfights, and having by FAR the best cheat system (simply dial a cheat once, and boom, select it at any time on the phone's menu). Not to mentions ai/physics that worked properly which were downgraded or butchered in 5 like I previously pointed out.
This is an awesome analysis! I’ll be checking out your other rockstar videos in the future
Still love the story of V to this day and appreciate it even more now that I’m older. It has its flaws and rockstar has fucked up online so bad but story mode is still the best. When I was young I really liked Michael but honestly every character is the best especially Trevor
Dude David, this was an incredible analysis of a game that I loved playing, thought had a pretty good narrative, but also fell short on some key aspects in “rockstars philosophy” or whatever the hell we choose to call it. Honestly I kind of just put this on as something to listen to while doing the dishes, and actually had to stop the video, finish my task, and then come back to with a cup of tea, and comfy seat. Bra-fucking-vo brother. I would say unequivocally your English Lit. Education has not gone to waste in the slightest with this engaging masterpiece.
13:12 the fundamental problem with RDR 2 is that it lacks this, you get severely punished for interacting with the world in any way beyond "ThAt'S a NiCe HoRsE mIsTeR" and while it might be immersive and thematically on-point, its no fun at all
RDR2 was never made to be GTA in the Wild West though
@ true, but it also doesn't have the mechanics needed for me to take any kind of roleplay seriously, so it's just this awkward in-between point where it wants me to RP but RPing isn't fun or rewarding
Hey David,
I have commented on youtube maybe less than a handful of times since the platform launched. I want to take a moment and thank you for all your videos, I came across this one due to a post in the subreddit but have since started to watch all your videos. Huge fan of long/essay form videos and analysis so it's all right up my alley. I am looking forward to your future videos and wish you all the best in your youtube endeavours as I think there is a very big audience for this content yet untapped, it's a niche you are really good at and hope to see capitalize on it.
A few notes, if I may:
- Really enjoy the balance of subjective and objective as you do your videos, I find this point hard to articulate, but often it's really easy for these videos to lean heavily (or try to) in one direction and they tend to lose their charm. Taken to their extreme, they just become akin long form review or a cold statement of historical facts about the title.
- This seems to get better in the new videos, but the pacing and organization of your older videos was at times harder to follow. (Pointing this out, because kudos on improving) Your audio quality is superb and you have a naturally pleasing voice/tone.
- Some visual aid at times might help the flow of your ideas/video, especially when you reference an event or a theme in a few different sections of the video. Nothing crazy, just a keyword, a cycle/graph etc anything to support the specificity of what is being discussed. I am very visual and end up scrolling back and forth to take notes or think about something and I noticed channels that do even a rudimentary attempt at visualization make it much easier to follow.
- A few bullet points that pop up, or references on the screen if possible would go a long way. You mentioned the pervasiveness of the western in your RDR video, while I understood the main point as you highlighted that in the beginning of the video, it might carry nuance that I might have missed because the western trope can differ drastically from a within a NA context to a EU context, on both the account of the individual consuming the trope and how the setting is applied by a creator. A few specific examples would have driven that point home. Just an example of an easy to overlook detail that can add more layers to your work on repeat watches. (I doubt I am the only one who watched this more than once, it's far too difficult to consume an analysis video in one sitting imo)
Don't mean to come across nit-picky or anything, just trying to provide respectful feedback. Tried to proof-read the best that I could but It's almost 430AM and I need to be in bed but had to pause your RDR video to make this comment before I forget lol.
Once again, thank you for your content and more importantly, your time if you have read this.
Cheers.
Thanks for the kind comment. I read through all of this and there’s a lot of good stuff. I’m trying to get better at the visual part of these videos, but I’ll be the first to admit I’m not great at editing or really even wanting to polish the visuals. I do like the idea of adding just pictures or text that emphasizes points though, I’ll keep that in mind.
These kinda comments are the ones that help and let me realize what I’m doing is valued and appreciated, so thank you. Hope to see you around in other videos / discord / live-streams.
Thank for taking the time to read that, hope you find it useful next time you make a video!
You sure will be seeing me in more of your future content now that I am semi-caught up on your channel.
Cheers.
The YT Recommendation is actually good for some time
"Daddy's back you bitches" the line that got 13 year old me in trouble with my dad he thought it was a racing game lol
Amazing work, I really hope your channel will grow cause you deserve it.
When you approach GTAV from a leftist city bound perspective, you misread all of the point of it. You have to view it from outside of California, and outside of Los Angeles. Also, you need to understand that California is a failed state, and LA is a perfect example as to why. Those are the first things you need to come to terms with. While V doesn't have the tent cities of illegal aliens, drug addicts, and homeless veterans, it represents the general ethos of it. Which is more prophetic than any politician, pundit, or glorified commentator. I'm posting this in 2022, and Rockstar's view of a fictionalized future of LA is so perfectly on point, it's astounding. I appreciate that you analyzed this game, based on your institutional education, but your review hasn't aged well. Rockstar actually p0wned you within the game itself. What would the three protagonist think of LA today? What would their reactions be...now? Pretty much exactly how the story mode plays out.
Dude, so sad your channel is currently underrated, hope you get more recognition for content like this, you deserve it.
Not sad at all! I'm stoked with my viewership right now. I do appreciate the kind words though.
DavidOZ
I guess the best way to play gta 5 is never to take it seriously. It never takes itself seriously. In that lens, it making fun of everything is appropriate. I agree that gta 4 had the better narrative, no doubt. However, Gta 5 does have its charm in my opinion because it is a romp more than anything else.
your opinion is really tight and mostly wrong
probably because u took it personally
Currently bingeing your content, keep it up man great stuff
I expected he would have like 1 million subs he’s so good at this
I always thought the way the characters could withstand dozens of bullets to the head and still then not being identified and arrested was pretty funny
can't believe I willingly chose to spend 56 minutes of my life watching this
just a typical gta 4 fanboy complaining about the game's story. nothing new. "muh gta 4 good gta 5 bad because gta 4 has a more serious story hrrr"
@@availabIe you can kindly fuck off then
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To answer your question, no I don't often change my in-game behavior depending on which protagonist I play as.
I believe I am a special case though, as I often play as different peds than the main protagonists. Gangsters, police, or others.
This detaches me from the story, thus making me improvise in regards to roleplay. As Trevor, I use his airport as a personal hanger and fly from Sandy Shores to Los Santos and back.
If you don’t think that GTA 5 is funny than there is no hope for you…
I love this style of video essays! Fantastic work!
For first point I'm opposite
As European I don't have privilege of seeing huge cities and highways too often. All I see is monotonous old Town, small houses and narrow roads every single day - gta was always series where I could live life as if I was in actually huge city. Drive huge semi on highway while seeing skyscrapers and all that. And that's why gta 5 kind of disappointed me - in San andreas amount of roleplaying mechanics made game very immersive, while it still felt like a satire. Gta 5 is just satire. No longer world you can live in and more of a sandbox. I don't need all rdr2 mechanics, but more buildings you can enter/interact with would make world feel more alive
"somehow, someway, Rockstar managed to make an absurd openworld mayhem simulator"
yes actually.. GTA was always about that.. in fact, in the first GTA, it's "story mode" was nothing but just optional side quests.. GTA story mode didn't really take forefront until the later games, and even then they always made sure the game is chaos first, story second.. so this definitely makes sense..
Good video but I honestly think you didn't understand Rockstars take on it.
It's meant to be a clusterfuck of weird and over the top jokes about EVERY aspect of modern america. It doesn't have a political stance. It's only purpose is and always was a fuck you to america from some british blokes.
You got some great content bro, keep it up. Just subbed.
What 10 years without new game does to players
Lol, you said that, and i think about TF2 or other games with no updates or sequels
The triads didn't confuse Michael with Trevor, they thought he was his lover.
Niko Bellic and even Luis Fernando Lopez are the rational straight-man style of protagonists, who both lead directly to John Marston and Arthur Morgan of Red Dead Redemption. Rockstar decided that didn't work for GTA games, so for GTAV the protagonists are borderline psychopaths who could either be good OR believably go on a rampage.
I thought Niko Bellic worked great in the world of GTA. He was surrounded by absurd side characters but him being the straight man made his impactful scenes that much more meaningful to me.
Like every other GTA protagonist?
I like your videos and the way you go in depth analysis about the characters and their gamesI can actually sit down and watch the full length witch I don't do. Anyways please keep at it.
People who say gta v is shit and ruined the gta series are just blinded by nostalgia, it's story, though not as dark as gta iv, is still deep and has many great moments and is great on its own right
I've always thought this
But if you actually examine all of the game's gameplay mechanics, you'd realize it is shit and worse than previous entries. C* killed the series with gta online too.
@@BDozer666 you're on every gta video where you keepshitting on gta v with that long ass rant where you start "imagine if gta iv and gta sa had a child but it actually ended up being retarded" I've seen you on reddit as well, you're very active on r/gtaiv and you shit on gta v there as well, get a life man, it's not worth convincing everyone. I have to say, i strongly disagree with your statement but the first sentence in your rant was hilarious
@@BDozer666 you're so obsessed with gta v, in this video, you've commented on all comments who said "gta v is the best" or something similar, the gta circlejerks like you have gotten too far
2:45 I do this all the time, it's one of the easiest ways to get a chuckle out of me
I easily identify with Trevor, I know so many people in my life who are different levels of crazy just like him. Truly need to play that damn game again thank for bringing back some serious nostalgia
You’re a great writer bro, keep going⚡️
Congratulations on completing the “Book of Rockstar Games.” I thoroughly enjoyed the entire series, with my favorite part being Grand Theft Auto4. Overall, the series was great and in-depth learning a lot. It would seem Rockstar really encapsulates four important parts of American history. RDR being the beginning of civilization and the end of the west, LA Noire being the end of WW2 and 1950’s prosperity in America, GTA 4 being the end of the Balkan Wars and the entering of an immigrant into America during the 2008 financial crisis then finally GTA V really captures the same financial and housing crisis in LA/Los Santos along with government corruption. The problem with GTA V seemed to be Rockstar making a large, Hollywood action series bombastic and grandiose game yet... due to that, the failed. In terms of a video game, GTA V nails it. A game you can just get on after work and school messing around to blow off some steam due to its immense amount of activity compared to its predecessor with news guns, planes/helicopters, vehicles etc. Yet, that’s where the story failed. The story was basically a re-hash of bank movies like The Italian Job and other mob movies. They Michael to be this wise soothsayer who already knows life yet he’s still confused about it. Trying to teach the son he never had, Franklin. I wish you delved more into the theme of mid-life crisis as it’s a prevalent theme among Michael and Trevor, as they’re polar opposites. GTA V has become the game where RUclipsrs love messing around with mods and the like for gaining millions of views. The game lost its core and now its a silly game to mess around with. Which is why I think Rockstar went back to a more emotional and heartbreaking story in RDR2, similar to GTA 4. In conclusion, GTA V is the weakest of Rockstar games but it’s still a silly game to mess around with for an hour or two then turn off. Thoroughly enjoyed the series as a whole. I would recommend watching BrokerCast analysis of GTA 4 and he too, analyzed many of the Rockstar games as you but in a 2 hour video. So please watch when you have the time. Thank you for the series as I have learned a lot and looked at these games along with video games as a whole with a different in-depth philosophical perspective.
Saying that gta 5 is rockstar’s weakest game is a little far fetched lmao
Don't compare red dead to gta, red dead redemption, as it explains in the title, is the "outlaw with a heart of gold" story, so it made sense for r* to chose a more serious story for red dead
As a non american, my main problem with GTA games is how brain dead the combat is... i was completely enamored with San Andreas when i was a kid, just because it had a gripping story,, memorable characters and an unprecedented level of player freedom. But i always thought that Combat is the weakest aspect especially after having a taste of how combat can be in other games. I expected them to change things a bit in V but they didn't and the story wasn't as good as SA to compensate.