The Hidden Meaning of GTA - Wisecrack Edition
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this episode, we're doing things a little differently by cracking into the hidden messages and satire in Grand Theft Auto 5. We're planning to do more of these video game deep dives, so let us know what you think!
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What do you think? Did you miss these hidden messages when playing GTA V?
I missed none of them. Good to see someone else found these as well. Good job wisecrack
+Wisecrack Okay pausing at 4:13 to say that scene is FORCED, you are not given an option to stop the torture. You have to do it to keep playing the game. So it doesn't say much about the player, really.
Edit: Ah never mind, you went on to say that.
Well, I'm sufficiently impressed. This and the Don Quixote video are my first forays into your stuff, and I can tell you, I'm coming back.
+Wisecrack I literally had to subscribe because you just BLEW MY MIND!
*slow clapping and stopping to pick up my brains off the floor
You got Michael's name wrong. It's de SANTA not de SANTOS
I disagree with your summary of Franklin, if anybody is a true representative of this particular culture, it's his friend Lamar. Franklin is disintrested with the goings on of his community, he calls Lamar and his shoot first mentality silly and unnecesssary. Franklin seeks less to argue with the world around him, and more to control his own life, and even control the world around him. To call him merely a representative of his culture is a bit diminutive. The fact that Jimmy tries to mask himself around Franklin is more of an insult to his character. Franklin is an example of the percentage of his population that is misunderstood thanks to the media that criticizes this culture.
So true man
wasn't the point of their little bit on Franklin to show that he wasn't like that? They weren't calling him "the true representation", they were saying that he and his "friends" are what people like jimmy THINK is the true representation of blacks.
+Ghoul Gwynefern yeah both you and the guy are on point
Billy Goatguy tbh wisecrack's "philosophy of" videos are a 50/50 mixed bag to me . I mean some effort is there but.. yeh, they aren't always 100% sound.
Honestly I think thug notes is the better wisecrack show
If only Sparky Sweets got into breaking down movies/video games.
i was driving in GTA one time, and this talk radio ad said, "Do you ever need to just go crazy? Well, join the movement to legalize medical cocaine." lmao
You should pay more attention to billboards and in-game websites too, trust me, it's worth it
LMAOOOOO
yeah me too i heard it several times
Radio los santos has the best satire in the game lmao
There're around 90-100 radio ads in GTA V. Even GTA San Amdreas already had many, many radio ads. There're many gems worth checking out on RUclips lol
Do not insult Rhythm of the Night
I agree!!
@@bennielee691 I respect Jared a lot put that actually pissed me off lol
Esos son reebook o son nike?
Know I'm late but that's not even the radio he listens to. He listens to los santos rock radio which is still good music.
@@richardschlange9629 Exactly, Los Santos Rock Radio is probably the best radio station in the game
I see a lot of people seem to ignore Trevor's moment of sanity, it doesn't seem like he is even that borderline insane as he is portrayed to be intelligent on multiple occasion. There are moments in which he make great commentary on the world. After the torture, he choose to let the man go. It can be said that Trevor is the truest of all the three characters.
Both Michael and Franklin resents the aspects of their criminality and enjoys the fine life while Trevor live in a trailer and is free to do whatever that pleases him, unrestricted by anything, he expresses himself truthfully and has no reserves in doing what he wants because he acknowledge himself to be a horrible person while Franklin and Michael still delude themselves into thinking they are not horrible people despite having committed numerous heinous crimes.
That's a damn good point~ both Michael and Franklin pretend that they're better than other criminals because they won't stoop to what Trevor is, but that really is a constructed illusion to make themselves feel better about what they do, or might carry some guilt here and there, but do nothing to actually change for the better.
Exactly, Trevor is, how he has many times said, honest. Franklin often complains he cannot get out from the hood, but he is the one coming back, keeping contacts there. He cannot handle big world and seeks guidance. Michale is two-faced traitor and hypocryte. Trevor is awful person and I hated most of the time he was on screen. But he is pure, he lives his life his ways and do not deny any actions and consequences. Rest lives in their own fake world.
You can also see this in Michels conversation with their kids. "I always seen myself as a good guy" "we are doomed if you are the good guy". They very nicely poin out how full of shit he is.
Spoken like a true hipster, just like Trevor is
What about he killed Johnny K? Thats the cruelest level of insanity.
Naxster trev eliminated an entire family tree cause they out competed him for some businesses. That's sanity?
11:03, see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil
🙈🙊🙉
Nice catch!!!
Gandhi
Cool Easter egg
GTA needs to focus less on the online stuff and focus more on writing and storytelling its what rockstar is brilliant at. I really wish they made a proper expansion pack, the writing for this franchise has always been great, GTA online however got old very fast.
I actually like the online stuff for the most part! Some of the players tho...thank god for the mute lol. BUT I agree! I totally wanted more storyline missions, and it makes me sad that we probs won't get them.
Its 2 years later. Do you still feel the same?
Rockstar made a statement saying that plans for the Storymode DLC were cancelled because the R* team felt very burnt out over making GTA and GTAO
I wouldn't say it got old, story DLC would just be better. However, the planned story DLCs were salvaged and made into Online DLC. Doomsday was leaked as story DLC in 2015 and several years later it came out as an online DLC. Casino Heist too. Interviews revealed that low riders update was the make up for plans to have Lamar as a playable character, but the actor didn't have time to come into the studio for a while. So on the bright side at least we do have story type things in online...
The replayability of the story mode doesn't compare to online's, mainly with the amount ot content added in every update.
At 10:59 did anyone else notice the three characters make the hear/see/speak no evil faces as a reaction to the govt being corrupt.
Ciaban Krommenhock Thats deep. Good eye.
Ciaban Krommenhock it also fits their character. Trevor refuses to notice the corruption around him, Franklin never speaks up for himself, and Michael refuses to listen to the people around him
11:04 is the exact image people are looking for pretty interesting honestly.
But Trevor always brings up the corruption of the country. During the Merryweather Heist, he talks to Frank about how the country is paying for private security, which ends up screwing over the tax paying citizens of the country, instead of simply having the actual soldiers/army secure the country, which is literally what they signed up for and financially beneficial for the citizens. As for Franklin, he always stands up for himself. He continuously mocks his gang leader, Stretch, knowing that Stretch could do many things to him such as put a hit out on him, he tells off Michael about white privilege (during the FIB Heist. On the way to the location to get the helicopter, Mike is complaining as usual and wants the world to feel bad for him. Frank is fed up and sarcastically says, "Poor Michael. Rich, white Michael...poor me, poor me, man, pour me a drink, nigga". He calls Tonya a bitch, tells off his Aunt Denise countless times and even goes off on Lamar for being an ungrateful dumb ass. Hell, he even murders everyone that's done him wrong at the end of the game. If that isn't standing up for himself, I don't know what is.
Mind fuckin blown
Did it really take people over ten years since the creation of GTA 3, to realize that it's all just parody and satire?! I mean c'mon, every GTA game made after and including GTA 3, covers a lot of these topics... Only difference here is that GTA 5 is just a more massive project than its predecessors and has more material to work with.
no I knew too but games like saints row go to over the top with this message
+Росен Тенев I think it was even more obvious in GTA 1 and 2. You could actually hear a voice over and people applaud when you went on a rampage against the police. Or boo you when you die.
+Росен Тенев It seems obvious but you never know when people are being introduced to these concepts. GTA V may be the first one that makes them think about themselves... Or it may be their first game ever
+TheScape55 I wouldn't say nobody took them seriously. We age and are always introduced things separately. Nobody is ever on the same page or at least reading the same page for the first time.
+Росен Тенев You ever play the first GTA? Lol, the whole series has been satire.
"We are corrupt in a good way"-The Government....
-america
*C* - _Coalition_
*O* - _Of_
*R* - _Really_
*R* - _Really_
*U* - _Useful_
*P* - _People_
*T* - _Together_
@@6clix331 correction : every fucking government
Did anyone else see the imitation of "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" at 11:03?
+Alexandra Hook yes, for we have eyes and a working brain connected to said eyes
+Hunter Rodrigez OMG really?!?! What is this witchcraft? CONSPIRACY!
+Alexandra Hook I didn't see _nutin_. I didn't hear _nutin_. I ain't saying _nutin!_
+Alexandra Hook Crap, I actually saw that and made a comment without thinking. Better go delete it...
+Alexandra Hook Nicely spotted.. :) I saw it as each of them acting out their archetype, but i'm not a psychologist or anything..
Trevor covers his eyes and rejects reality because his delusions turned out to be true all along, and if the delusions are true, so is the fear and paranoia. So right before the sense of mortality set in and he was about to come to terms with the fact that he no longer had any control over his life, he blocked it out by covering his eyes, holding together what little insanity he had left.
Franklin covers his mouth, I think, because he’s still young and ambitious. He knows better than to share valuable information, that he could use to gain an edge. He always thinks big, but rarely shares with anyone, causing his subconscious to briefly cover his mouth.
Michael covers his ears and that’s how he is. Denial.
Sorry for the wall.. :)
Metal Gear Solid 2 is a striking commentary on postmodernist society and culture, and it constantly breaks the 4th wall to question the player's conventions and beliefs. A metagame.Fallout, Deus Ex, I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream, No More Heroes, Silent Hill 2, Dark Souls, Red Dead Redemption, Lisa... Those are philosophically heavy too.
Those are great suggestions, thanks! We've already got Fallout in the works, so keep a look out.
+Jorge Pereira Vila Every MGS game actually has a lot of criticism in it, the most obvious of course being their critique on militarism.
+Jorge Pereira Vila Super Bunnyhop has got some great critical breakdowns on the metal gear series.
+Wisecrack more stuff like this video please
+Jorge Pereira Vila am sorry but how is dark souls philosophical?. I cant really see it. if anything the game is really depressing when you think about it. Your basically a zombie, who is stuck in some purgatory-esq place, where you must fight to survive and yet die over and over at the hands of some terrifying creatures. It reminds of me kenny from southpark, when he figures out he cant stay dead. and one of the other kids tell him immortality is cool. He responds very angrily, saying no its not "It fucking hurts" . In DKS the undead lose their sanity and memories with each death. So imagine your characters plight, Every waking moment he is constantly on the run from hideous monsters, which he must fight and kill, over and over again. With each death he gets stabbed, crushed, burned and tossed around. No wonder the undead eventually go mad. The game is very haha "Dark" and depressing . But i cant see any philosophy in it
It's Micheal De Santa
Michale
it's Michael Townley
Mitchel Muso
Cyborg Supreme
Santo
Santa
Santos
Stantas
@@c0reftw717 *_oH fuCK_*
Awful taste in music? Michael listens to Los Santos Rock Radio. He is old school, likes the classics in music and movies.
DeadlyNeedle ! Because those are the only types of music?
@DeadlyNeedle ! Wanna be boomer
@DeadlyNeedle ! well said
@DeadlyNeedle ! Shut the fuck up fancy pants and get your stupid ass ego back to earth, Let anyone enjoy what he wants And stop forcing your stupid ass taste to others, Alright sunshine?
DeadlyNeedle ! Lmao as if yacht rock isn’t overrated
“New city, new set of problems, but the idiots, ahh, they stay the same.” - Trevor Philips
De Santa...
Not santos, SANTA.
Really show how much effort was put into this.
Tom Phelps fuck off
Mr. De Santa, Wtf? That’s not my house!
Scott Y lol someone still believes in Santa 🎅🏿
@@davidgomez7882 Michael's original name in early development was De Santos though. So even though it was "wrong", it's only kind of wrong lol
I think your perception of Franklin is a bit off. Yeah he has the schpeal of a stereotypical "gangster" but he himself states he wants to leave that kind of life and do something better with himself... legal or not.
Seriously! I admire Fanklin for trying to get out of a bad way, even with people like Lamar over his shoulder whispering into his ear. The true struggle to see a better tomorrow.
Dallas Mann You’re a racist! That’s what it says! It’s problematic...
I'm pretty sure Trevor is joking when he "talks black" around Franklin.
Giovanni 336 NO! Trevor is a vicious, violent racist! He hates Franklin, because he is black! Before Trevor, and Michael met, Trevor was in the KKK.
Griffon129 Trevor is actually best friends with Franklin and was never part of the kkk
Kermit The Frog Oh.... Maybe it was someone else I was thinking of. Shrugs...
@@griffon129 i REALLY hope this in itself is satire
Griffon129 he literally tells Michael to bring him along and he’s never been in any race hating group he was in the AirForce as a pilot but got kicked because of his mental state
Double?
Squared.
Brilliant script writing
And people say video games aren't art and a mindless waste of time.
Most of the games are, but GTA is not like most of the games
Boomers & Karens say that shit.
Online games are
Michael De Santa*, not De Santos.
i would say "who the fuck cares" but clearly... you do... and another 9 people...
may Odin save us from our stupidity...
+Sir Tobias You're an idiot.
+Sir Tobias You're an idiot
+Dark Rush no it's townley his name is micheal townley
+ThoseGamerguyz It was legally changed by the FIB when he joined witness protection. Also, did you not understand the point of my comment? Would you like it if people preferred to your channel as "ThoseGamergalz"? If so, then that settles that.
Wait... Did they just do "Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil" pose?
11:03
Yes
Yeah
I did that torture scene without enjoying it or being disgusted or uncomfortable. I just did it to advance the plot. What does that say.
That you are like everyone that played the game. It was just Rockstar thinking they know their audience. Oh, and that this video gets everything wrong
+El Monster someone's a baby
ValiantOverlord Ehmm... why?
Rockstar does know their audience and this vídeo gets things right. Sure we can discuss a few topics but it's a great analysis for sure. Rockstar didn't put the torture scene just thinking their players are sadistics who would enjoy it. They didn't invest 250mi and 5 years so you could think of them that way
+El Monster well you missed the ENTIRE point of that mission...
Some really interesting points made here but I wish you'd gone deeper into Frankin's character as there's way more to him than just being "the black one", he's probably the smartest guy of the trio and is pretty much the glue that holds them together throughout the game, also automatically assuming all the players are white is ehh and got wayy too much into 15-year-olds on Tumblr argument territory for me.
Also am I the only one who plays the game for the story and exploration and satire/comedy? Like I like that the option of doing crazy shit is there but I actually don't do it nearly as much as I thought I would when I first started playing. Maybe that's just me tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i feel ya i played gta iv and never did missions and just fucked around but in gta v i loved the story and stayed on track of that
+scuzzlebutt He's black so everything about his character good or bad MUST be because he's black, those are the rules. /s
+scuzzlebutt Good to see someone repping for the dumb fucks this game was designed to lampoon.
+scuzzlebutt No I'd say the video assumes most players aren't gangsters in real life, regardless of their ethnicity
+scuzzlebutt Na man. Satire is my favorite genre for anything ever xD
this game is a masterpiece.
except for the torturing mission
@@n124ajdx Why ? That was awesome!
@@n124ajdx why? The game even gave you the option to skip that part.
I find it ridiculous that this torture scene is being sh*t on so much because it's a torture scene. The game is about criminals and killing people for the most part. What makes this one torture scene so much worse than killing literally thousands of people during all the other missions and freeplay?
The fact that you complain about this shows that you didn't even play the damn game since it heavily criticised torturing during the dialogue afterwards.
Bonus: you are actually getting that mission from some government officials, which is within itself criticism of the US government touring alleged terrorist to get information (which is useless since those people will either not talk no matter what or talk out there a** because they want it to be over which is exactly what is depicted in the game)
This game and it's content is a reflection of reality and all of this is happening in the real world. You can choose to be upset and act like it's all just violence for the sake of violence or accept that it's a valid criticism of America and it's culture.
@@ItsWarFilms you really didn't understand anything.
The mission glorify racism and stereotypical judgement.
Giving the skip option doesn't help when this type of mission shouldn't exist at all.
There is a difference between violence and racism
@@n124ajdx also I think people should decide themselves what's right for wrong. It's fine if you don't like that scene, that's why the skip mission option is there. But it's not your job to act like you have the moral high ground and tell everyone that they can't do that because YOU think it's wrong.
Is it really a criticism of American culture if almost all people playing the game don't get it?
+lodevijk Huh...That's actually a really good question
+lodevijk That is why it is satire. Satire is not always that clear-cut or understood by the masses
+lodevijk Yes, absolutely. That in and of itself could be said to be a symptom of American culture -- going along and having a laugh while never realizing it's at our own expense. Americans are incredibly egotistical when it comes to our perception of ourselves.
+Haremu Kingu Yeah, but satire heard by the peasants are often scaring them and making them go nuts about shit. It's dangerous to use such mechanisms in a game bought by masses. They would make a bad conclusion out of that.
I have to go with yes but that is actually a really interesting thing to think about. this game is extremely popular with the very kind of people its satirizing but the overwhelming majority of those people are too dense and shallow to look at it in any significant way
Its very simple really, every day for the whole of our lives we are constrained by laws: By the laws of the country, by the rules of school or work, the laws of how to drive (follow these lines, drive at this speed, stop at this point, drive at that point, park in these places etc), how to live you life (you can eat this, you can't that, you should have this much of that, and no more tan three of that etc), even rules of conversations, what you can and can not say and the routine of small talk. And on top of all this we have a set routine that we like to think we can chose not to do but we can't, did you really choose to go to work/school this morning? No, you did it because you had to, you ate at lunch because that was the time to do so, you went home because it was time to go home. You may have also had to done something outside of school you didn't want, a family outing, an appointment at the doctors/dentist etc. With all these rules and laws and routines and restrictions, to be able to say "Fuck the lot of you!!!!" Before stealing a car, mowing down a bunch of guys and getting into an epic chase with the police.
No matter who you are, its fun to step out of these restrictions, look back at them, stamp on the fuckers, crack out your petrol tank, pour that shit on their and light the fuckers up before batting a granny on the nogin with a baseball bat, stealing a car, sticking your middle finger up out the window before pulling out an Uzi and gunning down some random cunts before entering a 30 minute long race across the map to escape the pigs..... and then we turn it off, and go to bed because we have to get up in the morning to go to work, or to make sure we get to the opticians in time or to finish some work that we've been told we need to bring in tomorrow. We all like this, even the pricks who condemn violence in video games.
+Michael Hanley *slow claps*
+Michael Hanley Preach it!
to say we obey the law just because we have to is a bit of a stretch in my opinion cuz in the end we actually choose to obey it
+Tazzio Bocaiuva Are you saying choosing death or the loss of freedom to be a logical choice?
Acording to jean paul sartre every human being is free for he can choose.
What im saying is that the we have the choice of doing right or wrong after all thats the difference beetwen a person and a computer
7:47 Best lip-syncing in the game. 11/10.
Calling people sadists for enjoying running over animated people is jumping to conclusions annd misses a few major points. GTA does not reward good behavior like real life does. In fact, quite the opposite. By not punishing the character for dying or doing many of the rediculous things one can do, they are encouraging the curious gamers to explore the possibilies of the game. But what can a player do? One can go out and do yoga or play golf in real life without negative reprocussions. So what's the point of playing by the rules when you don't get punished for doing the unusual and probably illegal? To prove to fictional characters that you are good person? In addition, in a sandbox like GTA, why do the imaginable when you can be creative? The game is also made so that all the creative parts are illegal. In conclusion, people don't get joy out of running over the animated people. They get joy out of being able to do whatever the fuck they want. They enjoy being able to release their frustration with the social norms and behaviors of their real lives. It just turns out that means they run over animated people.
This message is in loving memory of George. I'm sorry for running over you. May you be happy forever in digital heaven.
So basically you're saying that good people are only good because they're rewarded for being good and, thus, have no more self-control and will than a well-conditioned pet?
That'd require even more conclusions to jump through
It is jumping to conclusions. The yoga missions are boring, slow, linear, and there aren't as many variables at play. The simple gameplay is not enough to keep the mind entertained/occupied. But driving over random people, what car you're driving, how fast you're going, what part of the world you're in, what time of the day it is, what's the weather like, how long does it take for the cops to get there, how long can you keep it up, can you get away with it. There's also the fact that it allows you to escape reality, I can do yoga poses in my room watching RUclips, though I doubt I'd ever be insane enough to drive around like a lunatic. It's not that that's something I would enjoy, it's just that we are curious creatures.
It’s so true, games give you freedom.
To be honest, your arguments derive from the conclusion that people are only good because society punishes the bad behavior, ignoring the large numbers of citizens who have done courageous acts in spite of the status quo (such as opposing an army, monarchy, reich or racism and even religious dogma). This would lend credence to the fact that most players are, in fact, repressing urges to lash out at a society they do not conform to. If your main reason for doing good is to simply avoid punishment, then you aren't really a "moral" person by the kantian definition, you just follow the rules.
Also, not every gamer does the bad things presented to them simply because they have the chance. There are entire communities that deliberately avoid the bad outcomes because of feelings for inanimate characters, or because their moral compass would normally be against doing such things, even in a simulation. Now, as to whether those kinds of gamer would be the same crowd that plays GTA, I don't know, since I don't have a statistical chart with me. It'd be interesting, though.
I think, however, you speak for a lot of the crowd of GTA, who simply like the freedom from systems given to them by the game. As such, this video does apply to you, as it shows the consequences of that kind of lifestyle.
@@DarkScherzo94 Agree. people that can harm others and decide not to are moral people. People that dont do harm to others just because they cant are cowards.
"I love Things! I'm the King of Things!"
So stupid but my favorite piece of dialogue in GTA V.
I never noticed the “see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.” Gesture the guys did @ 11:03 during gameplay. Pretty neat
>criticizes commoddification of black culture
>makes "Thug Notes" videos
+J Nichols I would make the argument that Thug Notes is actually an inversion of the standard appropriation of black culture. In most cases, a "thug" wouldn't be expected to be well read in classical literature. You could still argue that the joke is just that a thug actually is, but a joke with that simple a punchline couldn't sustain a series. In thug notes, the books are not only summarized, but the literary analysis provided is quite sound, and at times incredibly insightful. Essentially, thug notes promotes the idea that even the most stereotypical-seeming person could quite intelligently tackle what have been considered the greatest literary works in history. It also tackles the idea that crude language can express an artful concept or abstraction as effectively as "elegant" language, which to me merits its own worth regardless of the race of the host.
Would it work as well if the host was white? Probably not, if only because the audience would probably be laughing at a white guy trying to be a "thug". Which, really, says far more about the viewer's idea of "black culture" than it does Wisecrack's.
Regardless, I think Thug Notes is brilliant, and I don't think anything Jared says here really reaches hypocrisy when it comes to that.
+meh. , you are one incredibly well versed apologist, I didn't expect that one to get turned around so quickly. Well said!
+J Nichols
He's not criticizes commoddification of black culture, he just made video about gta, where he explain how gta criticizes it.
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The masterful storytelling and hidden meanings in this game is exactly why I don't ever skip the cut scenes
What do you mean horrible music? Los Santos Rock Radio is the best station in the game.
Ikr
Steve Winwood
He was listening to the Pop station when he said that
It's actually Non-Stop Pop Radio station , it's the only one I listen to because I don't like the other music lmao
+Frankie Hackett there's a song on west coast radio that's pretty good it's hold up
11:02 See no evil. Speak no evil. Hear no evil.
+ilovekitkats Yep.
+ilovekitkats Sharp eye
Henningfest sharp eye? That’s obvious as fuck
The best part is every year GTA 5's satire becomes more and more real each year
Why is that?
Because reality is sometimes stranger than fiction
I don't know if i'm in the minority here but i hated that torture mission. It was just... Eugh
John Cena Erm... "I don't know if i'm in the minority here but i hated that torture mission. It was just... Eugh". Is that okaaaaaayyyy?
joesoly1234 I was really disgusted by it. couldn't wait for it to be over.
Yeah ...
I think in part that was it's purpose. To show the true brutal and raw nature of violence that we mindlessly perform inn video games and watch on TV daily.
maybe not idk
It also highlights the hypocrisy of outrage over digital torture yet western governments are actually doing it all the time in real life.
I will say that the torture bit of GTA 5 really made me uncomfortable and I was just trying to get it done with.
also, I dislike trevor the most.
Same
+sonicXrules123 trevor is my spirit animal
Same reaction my bro had
Ughh same
im with you, that was crazy horrible, and i love manic trevor
but i think what was lost in this video was Trevor's commentary after torturing the guy
he drives the poor guy to the airport instead of killing him, commenting on how torture is useless, that its cruel and only done for the torturee, not for information
8:03 - why did you use a screenshot from GTA San Andreas for the Jefferson Towers? rofl
Because they're talking about Los Santos, and the place pictured in that San Andreas screenshot is in the same city as the majority of the map of GTA V takes place in, it's just reimagined for V.
Yes but this was recreated in grand theft auto v also gta san andreas was set in the 3d universe the whole entire map was recreated
I like the "see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil" and 11:04. Cool stuff.
It's De Santa. Not De Santos. Shit, man...
who cares, is a fictional character... not a fictional god.
nobody is gonna Bomb him for that mistake.
You can't be sure in this day and age
Actually it's Micheal Townley, he changed his name after faking his own death.
jojtim I think we know that if we played it bro
Lone Knight That doesn't make any sense,
So what you are saying is that I can call Clark Kent, "Mr. Hocus Pocus Super Guy" because he's a fictional character? There is proof ingame that Michael (and Michael's family) are called De Santa (and formerly called "Townley").
In the video Wisecrack did make a mistake, that doesn't mean it's a bad video in any way
I find it fascinating and ironic that people play GTA, but feel uncomfortable with playing the torture scene in V.
Because the people who you shoot, and the police, aren't real.
The dude you're torturing feels real. You feal like you're actually doing something horrible, while you don't feel like you are when you blow up 50 cop cars, which are just game mechanics.
Some people run around killing everything, some people try not to kill people they don't have to. One person can be both people at different times. I have called an ambulance for a person i accidentally hit and I've gone on rampages to kill hundreds, but that was my choice and based on my mood at the time
The torture scene, You don't get a choice. You're as much an unwilling participant as the victim. Funnily enough, it turns out you are also being tortured by the scene. Its actually quite genius, a brilliant way to bring torture into the forefront of conversation at a time when it needed to be discussed.
@@brettroper1031 I agree, but I feel as though it's also the lack of choice you have in doing it. The whole reason the game is so fun is because you can choose to do whatever you want. You have to do the torture scene in order to progress the game, so some people might have a problem with that.
@@darkspeed62 Eh, I disagree there. The entire story is a railroad, start to finish
But would you feel uncomfortable when me and my furry friends surround you in GTA Online in our fox masks? ;)
6:44 That's subjective.
+La Oveja 90's dance music is bad, and yes so bad that it is good.
You could say it's outdated, but saying is bad is a matter of preference.
Also EURODANCE 4EVAH!!!11
+Jesse Unick #Macarena
+Jesse Unick he also listens to classic rock do you think that counts as bad music
Nuke Narwhal Yes, as there is simply not enough wubs or traps.
/sarcasm
Saying people are all "sickos" on the inside completely ignores the chemical components to our lives that makes these urges quite obvious. We aren't all sickos, but we easily get addicted to the rush of violence/power. You couldn't call a junkie a "sicko" because that would imply some sort of moral fiber issue when we all know its a simple chemical addiction mixed with a lack of healthy alternatives. Folks in power and those committing violence aren't all that different, it's a rush and it's how they've learned to handle things. Our kind used to actively struggle for survival, spear shit with a couple of buddies then rip its skin off and depose of its guts before we cooked its tasty fleshy bits. Those actions gave us a lot of excitement and a wicked good rush to ensure that we'd keep doing so and keep surviving. Same thing applies to all the violent, power hungry shit people often get addicted to; like taxing folks or passing arbitrary laws or earning so much money you have nothing better to do than join a creepy cult out in the middle of woods.
loved the kkk jab lol. i mean i know the jab was more about how they're so rich they literally need to do nothing else, so end up doing odd shit since their survival needs are already met
***** "Creepy cult out in the woods" is a reference to the bohemian grove, not the Klan. The Klan was a response to political encroachment by Northern Republicans who were using newly freed slaves as a core constituency to keep the South (a stronghold for the democratic party) politically weak and scattered.
Bohemian Grove is a group of rich folks with nothing better to do (seemingly), but the civil war was an atrocity for the folks of the South and much of (if not all) of their wealth was decimated. Our nation is a bit touchy on the issue of slavery, but more than a half million young men died in that war. I think there was something around 20 million folks back then? If you adjust for the population, that'd be like six million young boys dead. The Klan, was certainly not a group of rich, bored folks looking for a good time.
at 11:04, they’re doing the “see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil” thing when they’re being told the government is corrupt
michael doesnt listen to pop music. he listens to classic rock and his name is de santa. have you even played this game?
+Galactic Horse "Santa" would be a singular female saint. "Santos" would be a plural for male saints. And even if they were the same, you can't say a name differently because it means the same
He likes all our pretty songs.
He likes to sing along.
Classic rock was pop music of said era that the music was created in hence it was POP music of that generation making something classic does not lose its pop hence the word POP came from popularity so Technically speaking he does listen to pop music
Robert Cummings Technically speaking during those times there wasn't a big difference between pop and rock. Hence why, for example, some say the Beatles played rock and others say they played pop. The differentiation was made during the mid 80's when harder genres of rock started to arise. Nowadays we refer as pop as, well, pop whereas we refer to rock as rock wether it's popular or not. So, yeah, if you want to get technical he does listen to 'popular' music, but that's not what they meant by "pop"
El Monster yes in a nutshell the definition of Pop music is what is popular in the current generation so where both right :)
U said "The Rythmn of the Night" is a bad song
unsub, Bastille is still awesome
Bob Sawyer "Rhythm of the Night" was written by Corona, not Bastille. They just simply stole the shit chorus line and repeated it over and over again.
hey. . .doesn't take away from the facts
Bastille is big gay
Bastille are shit
The singer is Corona....
hehe, corona.
The only time I did something violent in GTA 5 and felt bad about it was when I accidentally ran over a dog while riding a motorcycle
you monster!
The Illuminati dogs don’t know better, it’s not your fault. Poor fella.
Rubs it was a golden retriever, made me feel even worse.
Nice +Yogscast video clip at 3:06 ish
There's a shot from one of sips' videos in the conclusion.
The one where Michael's being forced at gunpoint to hit the bong?
+Zelmel yep... sure is great when people just take other people's footage without at the very least disclosing it. They could have just recorded some footage themselves. Now I don't even know if the rest of the video is recorded by them or not. Just seems shady and bad-mannered.
+Nicho I was kinda thinking that too...
+Nicho I think they are clipping a bunch of people to show how so many others play the game, etc. if it was just what they did it would kinda invalidate the point they were making. all though a source list my not be bad.
the torture scene... *shivers* I hated that scene.
+GorumGamer Productions WHAT? That was the best part of the game!
+GorumGamer i didn't play that part yet buy i dont want to play it is there any way to skip that
nope.
GorumGamer well that sucks
big babies
I always hated the torture scene I tried to go with the ‘least painful’ options
I just waterboard home because that does the least permanent damage
PLEASE keep doing videos like this! I'd LOVEEEEE to see an analysis of Breaking Bad!
+Von Storm PLEASE!!!!!!
That's a good idea.
Great idea as well, although I would love more games, such as Shadow of the Colossus
+Von Storm yeah i'd sell a kidney for that one
+Von Storm imgur.com/2XVpFyR
6:46 That's not the type of music that Michael normally listens to. He listens to Los Santos Rock Radio, Vinewood Boulevard Radio, The Lowdown 91.1 and Space 103.2, but not Non-Stop-Pop.
Ah, a fellow man of culture!
7:33 that's the same television. You showed two pictures of one television.
Ikr that was hilarious lmfao
Please do fallout!
We're working on it!
+Wisecrack I can imagine it's gonna have something to do with communists hahaha
+Wisecrack Do not skip New Vegas please. There's a lot of good political philosophy in that one.
+Wisecrack please do dreamfall chapters!!
7:56-8:15 Don't forget Rockford Hills = Beverly Hills.
6:17 witness protection for WHAT they weren't convicted of anything so on so on...
Great video, guys. I just bought my first console since the Wii - a PS4 - so I could play GTA5. So far it's amazing. I'm jumping in deep. Thanks for giving me something to think about while I figure out what the blimp is for.
Thanks for the kind words! Glad we could make your gaming binges a little smarter.
+ProfessorPuppet You could just bought/upgraded a PC...
+rockinrodney5000 And here's that one guy, People have preferences, Don't get your Bias in the way, Pc isn't the only alternative out there and it isnt for everyone "I play consoles mainly" even though I have a VERY powerful pc
***** Why would it be? If anything it's probably infinitely better for the mods alone, add the better graphics and already it beats consoles anyday.
***** GTA 5 came out to the PC in 2015... And nothing's wrong with it as far as I'm aware. Seems like you're out of touch.
11:04 isn't it kind of amazing how all three of these guys do the See/hear/speak no evil bit at the same time? Without a single one of them coordinating to the other that they're going to do a specific symbol? And not one of them repeat a symbol ? Are these guys psychic?
lol
Eric Nick Right?! XD
+KC NotQuiteHD Pretty sure...they are characters in a video game...
Peter Bell im joking man obviously they were written to have done that but still it's pretty silly
I also think that when you crash your car and the character you are playing shouts obscenities (supposedly) at the other drivers, they are actually directing their critique at the player.
It's Michael De SANTA not Santos
can you explain why video games and movies and TV shows make mass murder look cool (GTA, James Bond, Dexter, etc) but rape is always portrayed as bad (which it obviously is)? Isn't murder worse than rape? Why are rapists and pedophiles always despised in the media but those who commit the worst of all crimes, murder, are often glamorised?
BTW I'm not suggesting any of the crimes I just mentioned should be looked on sympathetically, but rather the opposite.
+Sam Barkley You could easily make the argument a severe rape, abuse, or assault is worse than murder as it leaves a victim alive to suffer afterwords. Just my thoughts.
fmlAllthetime I'd rather be raped and alive than murdered and dead.
Sam Barkley
Some would disagree with you is all I was stating.
WhiteTuxMafiaAndFilms This is very true, if we started saying killing people was bad, we would criminalize the military (every military) and that wouldn't be good for business.
the thing about the "yoga vs running people over" is that the yoga sequence is not only dull, it is also very slow. it doesnt necessarily mean the gamers dislike the yoga sequence based on the fact that they prefer a more violent activity, it could be that they just prefer fast paced activities, such as heists, chases, and gunning.
I wasn't a fan of torturing that dude as Trevor, it was a tad too far, I was glad to free him and take him to the airport.
Just shoot some random guy at the second house it skips the rest
This video really makes me want to see your guys' take on Westworld!
Oh heh it’s the normies! Wassup?!
@@ryang54712 oWo
The GTA 5 story is such a masterpiece of art
8:02, Actually the Jefferson Towers are from GTA San Andreas, the ones from V are called Racnho Towers
He wasnt just a biker. He was Johnny :(
Mlg Takeo When Trevor kills him he says nobody cared about him anyways, because Rockstar knew everybody preferred to play The Ballad of Gay Tony and forgot about The Lost and Damned, Im pretty sure thats why they killed him
as a big fan of gta IV, that scene hurt :( and most people don't even know Johnny's significance in the storyline
This is the original ultimate purpose for the internet. Extremely dense information that isn't biased and is open to criticism. A few videos here is worth more than a semester at a university, honestly.
This was an amazing breakdown of GTA. Well referenced and everything
I didnt enjoy torturing the guy and choose to only water board him. At least it didn't leave lasting damage.
+DapperDan Well waterboarding can be a very harmful. From causing some kind of pneumonia or lung inflammation, a condition where the body doesn't receive enough oxygen that could lead to organ failure, can cause physical and emotional stress, and in since it mimics drowning, could release stress hormones that could lead to a heart attack
tt;dr... That torture scene has no positives, only hell
*****
at least he still has all of his teeth and fingers
+DapperDan hahaha 😂 sorry I have a very strange sense of humour!
I accidentally crushed his balls in that mission because I thought you could only hit him in the arm or leg and I finished the mission as quickly as possible because I was feeling sorry for him
+DapperDan Noone wanted to torture the guy. It was just Rockstar trying to think they "know" their public
Michael is the representation of a bad man trying to be good and Franklin the classic good man doing bad things.That's why Michaels and Franklins chemistry is so good
“Listens to horrible music” damn, his station is my favorite station
"Listens to terrible music"
[enter rhythm of the night]
I think we will have a problem there mate.
11:03
Always amazes me how many people miss the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' reference here
Do Bioshock
+666melodeath666 Seen this yet? ruclips.net/video/yKf4MtZ4RQA/видео.html
Wisecrack oh you already have one praise garryx wormuloid i just found out the 8 bit philosophy in this channel and now I can't stop watching
+Wisecrack Now do one on Internet addiction, for +666melodeath666
+666melodeath666 I think he should do GTA V
the philosophy of HOUSE please
The torture scene is one of my all-time favourite gaming moments. It brightened up my day and brought me great pleasure. Thank you Rockstar, thank you.
Michel knows his therapist is writing a book on him so he lives on through history
I always found it weird that I loved playing franklin... I guess I just see CJ in him...
how man? frank wanted a better a life away from the crazy one he had while CJ wanted to bring back Grove Street to the top.
Probably because the voice actors are actually cousins in real life
Love how they even give Franklin Tim's to start off with
Pretty much the same shit I gathered watching my boyfriend play (minus some feminist commentary). It just helps to have a concise, well-produced chunk of video to show people in defense of this game. The only issue with cleverly-constructed satire is Poe's law; unfortunately, the demographic most likely to be playing won't understand these messages or realize the characters are laughing right at (not with) them at points. I'm about as stuffy a Social Justice Warrior as you get, but I just have to applaud the intricacy of GTA's world from the writing to artistic direction to the soundtrack selections. It's an awesome game that confronts players with the cold, ugly truth and accountability some times, whilst sparing the player a nervous breakdown through a spattering of comic relief at others; the important thing is that the player has the space to think about these creative decisions, the decisions of other characters, why they were made and why they behave the way they do. It's too beautiful to ban and too honest to silence, but 70% of people don't get it and probably won't examine themselves all that deeply after a few hours of blowing shit up- minors, least of all.
BUT IT AIN'T MEANT FOR CHILDREN AT ALL
Every time he said “desantos” I cringed
Anton Radke he’s too white to even bother to try to pronounce “De Santa”
Bad Wisecrack, Michael listens to rock music.
Generally it's Los Santos Rock Radio which mostly consists of old school, 80s rock, and Radio Mirror Park which has indie rock (and is arguably the best radio station, although I do enjoy pretty much every song in the game).
Nonetheless, a great analysis of a brilliant game. Well done.
> old school, 80s rock
So, garbage.
@@nikkilee3840 oh I'm sorry nikki, does it hurt your ears to listen to music that doesn't sound like they spent 5min on the song?
please do MGS2 next (or if it's even possible, the entire Metal Gear series)!
Your analysis falls apart when you reach Franklin. While your very pragmatic in your breakdown of other characters you ignore Franklin as an individual to make a prepackaged statement about the representation of black people in media. You do this to show your "sensitivity" to the black mans plight in america, but snub commentary falls on It's petard when you say things like "...accurate depiction of an authentic black male...". This isn't the kind of critique you extend to the other characters and as a result we get very little about Franklin himself and his actual relationship to the player.
11:03 That's really good low-key messaging right there. Impressive.
I don't think the racial thing would be Franklin's main message. Sure, Jimmy does try to act like him to be more friendly with him, Devin does too, though I think he does it more to ridicule or humour him, and Trevor simply speaks about what interests him, combined with his own views on gang members, which is if you remember, what Franklin was before the game's time, but ultimately decided to leave the gangs behind and try to make himself a name in something bigger. Which ended up being carjacking and assassination, but you know what I'm talking about. It's not that Franklin is supposed to be a stereotypical representation of a black man in some weird philosophical questioning of race ethics, that's rather Lamar. Franklin is in my opinion, the balance between Michael's and Trevor's ambitions. Michael wants to lead a laid back life of security for his family, but ultimately despises it because it's boring and he doesn't know what to do, while Trevor revels in the almost anarchic...
...ways of Sandy Shores, but is ultimately a violent, aggressive, insane and overall, not very nice individual. So this game, in my opinion, presents us the three ways to live. The two more radical ones: the person, who abandons their ambitions for a life of security and peace, but ultimately despises peace because there's nothing for them to do that really has an impact and the more explosive personality, who has the time of their life in an anarchic situation, but is ultimately a danger to others around them and themselves, meaning that they have to constantly pay attention to what they are doing, lest they end up on the mortician's table after another bombastic act of violence. They could've even left it at that, with the core game asking "What do you prefer, security or freedom?" But they gave us a third character. Someone, who has ambitions and the troubles they face in achieving them, but who ultimately wishes to lead a happy life, not one that devolves into anarchy.
In fact, I think the full question is "Do you prefer ultimate freedom and the cruelties you might have to commit to preserve it or the security that might leave you not as free and bored as Hell. But safe." It is a parallel to what a philosopher named Schopenhauer said a long time ago. The World is simply a thought in and of itself. An imagined reality, ruled by a blind will. That will is ambition, which is what we follow, what we want to achieve. However, this blind will is unsatisfiable, as it will always wish for something more, as we ourselves always wish we had something better or could do something more, etc. So that makes life itself an endless suffering. However, if we abandon the blind will in order to negate the suffering, that leads to endless boredom. So, according to Schopenhauer, our goals should be to suffer as little as possible, while still doing our best to achieve what we strive for. That is, with the parallels of the three main characters, is an interesting thought.
+darklord884 As unnecesarily long as this is, I agree with you. The whole racial thing was not the point of Franklin's story
I get bored after the third line you need to pass the message quickly
+MEME TOWN Then why did you comment? If you didn't bother to read the material you are responding to, then you clearly know nothing of it, therefore you cannot put anything that makes sense into it, therefore shut up, please, 'kay? Kay. Thanks.
I think that the three characters are three types of GTA player.
Good video - As a GTA 5-latebloomer (I only started playing this game in 2019) I was astonished and amused at the brilliant satire and social commentary this game offers. Here some recent observations: 1.) I killed a woman close to the tennis court and instead of intercepting or calling the police, two NPCs took out their smartphones to take pictures of the murder scene; 2.) When I entered a triathlon with Micheal and was leading the field, the news commentators always mentioned my "mid-life crisis" as a motivation to participate the traithlon -> it's funny because I have personally met so many managers that became obsessed with marathons in their mid-40s, in an attempt to prove their manhood and boost their egos 3.) Having attended psychotherapy, Dr. Friedlander strongly reminded me of a former shrink of mine - greedy, smug and up his own arse, while giving generic advise and half-hearted cheers. 4.) the anal-fixated yoga-instructor, as a caricature on how yoga is perceived
I wish I could write a paper as deep and well thought out as all of these philosophy videos.
yeah people just tend to think of everything that questions the cover of things as deep
Do Donnie Darko please!
GOD YES! I would love to see Darko get your psych break-down. My own take on the film was one of a dark rather absract take on teenage angst.
11:39 - Close but not true, there is a single white character who didn't put up a black accent when talking to Franklin. He's the FIB guy who said "yeah, but we're good corrupt!", Michael's buddy. Honestly I forget his name. We see this happen during the last scene with Lamar towards the end of the game.
I LOWKEY THOUGHT THE TORTURE MISSION WAS HILARIOUS
Please leave sources for your music. This is the second time I've heard it and I need to know!
This is an exceptional analysis. I'd love to see one of these for all the GTA games from GTA 3 up.
The scariest part of Trevor is that he sometimes says something kinda wise and you have to admit to yourself that you agree with a homicidal psychopath.
Jeez. How much better have Jared's voiceovers got?!
Some day. When I'm possibly in my 60's or 70's. I'm going to give this game to my grandkids as a family heirloom.
I was with you up until the appropriation part. Smoking weed is not a thing only black people do everybody does it.
+Ian it's not as much the act of smoking but rather some of the culture around it, while weed has now become similar to alcohol in the meaning that everyone from any race, social class or sexual orientation does it, some of the different cultures that surround weed smoking belong mostly to black culture and are being appropriated by white people, for example a teenager who says things like "420"or "let's blaze", or wears clothes filled with weed images, things that might have meant something before, or where representative of an idea, but are now basically a joke thanks to white appropriation of different cultures/
But also everyone isn't disproportionately arrested for smoking weed even for smoking at the same rates
+Ian A lot of sheltered people live vicariously through videogame and TV characters.
+bromo sanovo except weed culture is not a mainly black culture thing and never has been. Smoking has been around for much longer than 2012 and its in pretty much every culture around the world.
the reason that Michael gets way too high is because he doesn't smoke weed he's an alcoholic and Franklin does smoke weed regularly
+bromo sanovo and from what I can tell 420 came from some white students in 1971.