Reasoning for the post op/break rope: You can get break effect on ER rope, but not ER on break effect rope. CN went for the more optimized lightcone/relic set up to have more optimized stats, but post op/break rope is still viable 🤫👍
@@mrpokkee It should be noted that you need at least 2 substat rolls to Break Effect on the ERR rope to match the 16% Extra BE from BE rope compared to What is Real.
this comment popped up as a popular comment right before the intro ended just in time for me to anticipate and drop my volume. thank you for your service
it is so weird that this video miss out on the ER break point. And yes, BE rope+natasha light cone enable 3 turn ulti without being hit, enable u to hit that 200% BE easier for f2p
@@juxil8835Yeah, whichever you have can work, though Break rope has 16% higher BE than What is Real Just to note that using Post Op on Lingsha also comes with extra Outgoing Heal on Ult, while What is Real only offer self heal aside from the Break Effect. Either way, the goal is guaranteeing Lingsha 3 turns ult rotation
Post OP S5 >> WIR S5 You can get break effect on ERR but cant get ER on Break rope but Post OP also gives outgoing heal and you cant get that on rope.. Using Post OP S5 + Break rope also means that you only need SPD from substats while WIR S5 needed both BE and SPD to be the same..
I watched the same video on Bilibili and if any of you somehow went for Luocha's light cone, it is her 2nd bis according to this video. All the buffs it gives are good, with atk%, energy regen on every attack including Fuyuan's depending on how many targets hit, and a team wide speed boost upon using ultimate. This lc could enable a 2 turn ultimate if there's enough enemies on the field. Understandable that Pokke didn't mention it, since most people didn't roll for it and if you don't already have it, you may as well just go for her own lc if you want a limited 5 star lc.
Lingsha's main selling point for me is that Aoe cleanse and heal. If enemies ever get high spd and apply aoe CC or Dot frequently, Lingsha can solve that issue whereas Gallager has to spend skillpoints just like Natasha to cleanse.
What people dont understand is that, regardless whether lingsha is an upgrade over gallagher or not, is that hoyo can always make a problem we never had (an elite/boss that guarantees party-wide CC debuff) and sell the solution (lingsha has emergency party-wide cleanse). Not only that people always judge a unit based on "decimal value" instead of potentials on their kit (claiming lingsha's heal as weaker than other healer, not realizing that lingsha are made for break team, and break team doesnt really need sustain due to weakness break & ruanmei's ult)
@@pinkinglily6447 i mean people back then skips luocha only to cry about it later because their natasha can't sustain them anymore lmao, i feel like it's gonna happen again with lingsha because of her aoe cleanse
The way I look at sustain units now is that if they are able to contribute a bit more aside from sustaining. As long as they did more than sustain, whatever it may be, they are pretty worth it. Of course it depends on your team. Every sustain units are able to keep your team alive or barely.
Same. Fortunately she's looking to be the most offensive sustain to date. In her break team she contributes a lot of damage, to the point where she's essentially a sub DPS.
@peterbabicki8252 the problem is everywhere else. Aside from a single debuff from her ult, she does fucking nothing outside FF teams aside from one debbuf on ult
@@SchifferThe2nd This. I think nowadays, having the right sustain for a certain niche is arguably just as important as having the right support for that niche. Best example is with Firefly's team; Gallagher is a 4 star yet you would always run him over premium sustains like Fu Xuan ot Aventurine because of how much value he brings there.
Vertical investment is not for newer players or players who like to collect characters. Acheron is already OP, but we still pulled JQ. FF is already OP, but we still pull Lingsha. To me, increasing the team DPS is much more fun than making more teams because I already have many
as someone who don't have aventurine lingsha is a pretty great upgrade for FuA team comps and not just break teams. it's very comfortable using lingsha in feixiao's team to generate absurd amount of stacks and to trigger numby more often while also able to break shields like crazy
if you don’t have 2 limited 5* sustains just god damn get her. You never have to pull another sustain ever again at that point. “BuT- bUt, I hAvE gAlLaGhEr” yeah, now you have 2 genius. The most optimal sustain for a team is a negligible difference if you care so much then you don’t need to pull any sustain anyways because if you pull 3 limited 5* sustains for your account imma be honest… you’re kind of dented because they lose all pull value after the first two unless they add a game mode that requires 3 teams She is literally just Aventurine but made for break… instead she also has a summon. They both do debuffs, they both have FuAs, they both have high frequency attacks, they both act as a sub dps (Aven is more crit, and Lingsha is more break oriented)… Lingsha just has the addition of the summon which helps her have a place in a summon meta, but Aventurine has shields which are a proactive sustain compared to abundance healing which is reactive to enemy damage… Lingsha can cleanse but Aventurine has that 50% effect res thing, which I guess also plays into the proactive vs reactive theme But she is literally just Aventurine but abundance
In my opinion, Lingsha is a mix of Gallagher and Himeko. So she is the perfect option for players who needs a limited sustain and struggle at Pure Fiction. If we get more AoE content against fire weak enemies, such as the 3 annoying puppets (the Past, the present and the future) that appeared 3 times in a roll at MoC 12, or Phantylia on AS, Lingsha's value goes up so much more.
She can be run with any break units in the regular break team, but if there aren't any fire weak enemies she does fall off pretty hard without Firefly.
Wait I thought if you had a max dupe post-op conversations It meant that you can run a break effect rope? The video said not to run that light cone on her so is that false information?
TLDR: Meta perspective 1. If you have Firefly and haven't built Gallagher for some reason and facing issues with bosses like Kafka: Pull 2. Already have 2 solid sustains or don't have Firefly: Not Recommended
@@mrJones-ii7sh lingsha debuffs are totally useless for acheron, gallagher at e0 already aplies 2 too, or just get aventurine that have good debuffs and will do good damage in acheron team + good sustain
@@mrJones-ii7sh What the f are you saying? 😂😂 Lingsha only gives 1 stack everytime she uses ult, while galla gives 2 with ult and enhance attack. Totally midsha
Didn't play when gallager was a rate up so I never built him. I really want Firefly and even considering her e1s1 in the future. I'm really happy I got Lingsha. I tried her out in DU while I await weekly reset and she's awesome! Goodbye Bailu!
@@kienquochuynh1106 that's not how that works he gives one debuff it doesn't stack. lingsha can skill followup ult skill follow up Gallagher doesn't even come close.
For those who have E0 FF, wait for the last day of her banner where we can get the beta kit of the upcoming Harmony mc replacement and if that character is extremely sp positive pull for Lingsha. Or pull for Lingsha, E1 FF, and also Harmony mc replacement which will take quite a lot of pulls.
I am pretty sure she will be very sp positive. Which is part of the reason why they made Lingsha be sp neutral, the other part being they probably didn't want to potentially powercreep Aventurine out of follow-up teams even before his first rerun, because Fuyuan has some crazy uptime if you can use Lingsha's skill a lot (which Feixiao teams certainly don't allow). Also if the HMC replacement has 20% def shred on e1, it will be mega worth aiming for E1 for the entire FF team eventually (because not only that brings FF to exactly 100% shred, but also the rest of the team except the 4pc watchmaker user to like 85% shred with 4pc superbreak set if I'm not mistaken, which is diabolical considering how much damage Lingsha can already output), regardless of how sp positive HMC replacement is
@@sashimi3478 fair arguement but im pretty sure there will be another contorversy because hmc themself is really sp positive as well. And keep in mind that there will be a new meta (summons) coming right after tingyuns patch, which can possibly powercreep the break meta.
A second HMC would remove lingsha, not hmc. Boothill already runs no sustann since it can oneshot almost anything. A third support made for FF would put her on that same ballpark.
@@dingusbigus9629 I sincerely hope summon meta is not yet another addition to follow-up, it really gets on my nerves how hoyo doesn't even consider stopping for a moment to take care of some other archetypes (besides break, ofc). Like literally ever since 2.1 second half it's been follow up after break after follow up after break after follow up and you get the gist (the exception being Jiaoqiu but even he empowered Ratio's teams by a lot so you can argue he's also been a buff to FUA). And the next patch is likely gonna have yet another break support. I hope summon meta is something new, and older summoners like JY and Topaz (Lingsha?) can shine there too, not exclusive to new ones. But I guess if those got included it'd be hard to not make it into just another FUA sub-archetype...
Damn that's crazy, I don't have either firefly, boothill, or Feixiao. Her best 3 carries that can work best with her, I don't have any, but I also don't have any premium sustain either. And getting her literally make me go from barely beating MoC 11 to be able to clear MoC 12 and all other 2 end game immediately.
@@sandeepinuganti8791 Never said she's not, my 2nd half of the comment literally just proved that. I just don't have the units that she was designed to play around with. She's a 5 star limited sustain, she need to do more than just sustain. Right now having her in my acccount is just having a fancy version of Gallaghur, she's not in full potential in my account yet.
One thing that wasn’t really covered is how well she works with Feixiao, a very comparable unit to aventurine especially with her light cone or e1. Even without she’s very solid for her
Interesting that critical build Lingsha is not mentioned. It is viable and decent since her heals scales with atk. Thinking about it, you can think of her as an abundance version of Aventurine. So if your Aventurine is being occupied, Lingsha can take his spot for FUA teams like Feixiao.
@@akshayreddy4071 While it's not the same lvl of dps units, her ATK frequencies makes up for it. As said before, I think of her as an abundance version of Aventurine.
Fu Xuan doesn't face any issues healing her team since her ult heals them anyway, and you want to use your ult every 3-4 turns to refresh her health swap. Honestly, from a sustaining perspective I think Lingsha is not a good pickup because there's so many units that can keep your team alive. Scenarios where Fu and Aventurine can't sustain is also a scenario where Lingsha would fail. Her upside is literally just extra damage for firefly teams as a Galagher upgrade.
I use Lingsha with E2 Firefly. While she doesn't need it since she already kills everything, it feels really good to be able to use the excess SP that wouldv'e otherwise overcapped with Gallagher. Up to you whether it's worth replacing Gallagher.
My e2 firefull flyshine cleared MoC, AS, and PF with lingsha and have barely any noticable improvement compared to gallagher. like on MoC i was clearing 1 cycle -> 0 cycle. Pure fiction 40k max score (stays the same) Apocalyptic shadow (total score: 7000-> 7012) so if you're pulling for meta, i don't think e2 firefly needs her, she is way too broken already lol
@@PlsGiveMeLuckRNGesus yeah but lingsha is more versatile to place in other teams. she does fine with feixiao, does good in dot comps and complements acheron compared to gallagar that only really fits in sb
I can't wait for the comments to age poorly since hoyo will probably shill tf out of lingsha with enemy lineups and newer characters that cater towards her in the upcoming patches (just like they always do).
But a Yunli boss has already been leaked who is immune to break? And iirc, Hoolay or someone else has multiple break bars, so super break falls off a bit as it does no damage while the boss isn't broken. Not a very good way shill break.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Counter point Rappa and future summon characters have a better chance of catering towards her compared to other sustains we have now (with huo huo being an acceptation if they use energy). Also If tingyun does end up being a superbreak support lingsha will benefit greatly compared to other units.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Also leaked gameplay showed lingsha is much more comfy against hoolay compared to gallagoat but take that with a grain of salt cause leakers are bad at the game lol.
It will definitely happen 😆i came back to my previously watched vids to look at the comments again like E6 Sampo > E0 BS, E6 Lynx > E0 Huohuo and i cant help but laugh at all the poor ass thinking 4 stars can compete 😆give it 2-3 months max and look at the comment section of this video again 😆
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator its very simple, just dont use Break team.. Bosses have certain weakness that favors an archetype like fast = DoT, multiple waves = FuA
If you don't have any limited 5 star sustain char and if you have 2 teams for example break and follow up then it's much better to skip lingsha since we have Galla who is great (Lingsha is 100% better) but then we don't have a replacement for someone like huohuo or Aventurine in follow up or other teams in 4 star units so it's much better to save up for those limited 5 star sustains. (You can use lynx and others but we all know the power gap between lynx or natasha and someone like the preservation gremlin or huohuo)
@@UltimatePollo3495 nah, i do not think pulling for E1 lingsha would be that relatable since in this case, going straight for e2 firefly with e0 lingsha would be better PLUS if not break teams, then her s1 > e1.
Lot of cope in the comments Lingsha is total upgrade over Gallagher right now at E0S0 I don't see any reason to use Gallagher over Lingsha right now. Skill points are not an issue , the break efficiency is higher, the break dmg is higher, the healing is higher and she actually has room to grow whereas Gallagher is already as good as he is going to get.
The reason to use Gallagher over her is most people are clearing with zero issues with Gallagher already, a bit more damage isn't worth a shit ton of pulls if you already have E6 Gallagher. She's better but it's not a difference that is gonna make or break peoples accounts. Feels like the people that pulled for her are trying to justify wasting pulls on her by screaming from the rooftops that a 5 star that was made to replace a F2P friendly unit is better, holy shit, what a shocker.
@@markgruner5812 No character is going to make or break your account that makes no sense there is not one character in this game you absolutely need to pull for. You can safely invest into any character you want and clear the content. They might can't do it at E0S0 but E0S1 or E1S0 is more than enough to clear evertyhing bare minimum. I'm just saying Lingsha is definitely better than Gallagher and most peoples reasons for not pulling is simply but my current options are doing fine which is absolutely great you shouldn't be forced to pull or feel like you are screwed if you don't pull a character. I don't "waste" pulls I get who I want I'm telling people that are interested that she provides a lot of benefits over Gallagher if this is who they choose to get.
@@markgruner5812stop clinging to the stupid bartender.. Lingsha is way better .. When I heard rumours that a 5 star version of him is coming I knew I just had to wait and I did and I have her now ... E6 bartender is copium for the upcoming content .... 😂😂😂 A 5star can do the job better more efficiently why ponder over a thing that gives meagre stuff even at high investment !!! 😂😂
A lot of people hating and I am probably gonna get ratioed, but I think Lingsha is great especially e1. For those going full in on Super break, she is 100% worth it. I personally skipped for 4 banners including Feixiao and will continue skip until I can get another e2s1 (200 pulls each time I pull)
E1 is really good, but that does mean getting 2 copies. I dont think anyone hates her so much as that due to Gallagher she just isnt much of an upgrade unless going for E1.
So here is the reason most people will not pull. 50 pulls is 140$ Canadienne. So, if I was at 0 pity and lost the 50/50 i would in total have to spend 500$ to get e0s0. Now is an 8% upgrade worth 500$. That there is the biggest issue. I will hold off till a bigger upgrade to one of my teams comes along.
IMO hoyo screwed up, they should've made gallachad physical, because him already being fire makes lingsha look like a much smaller upgrade than she would've otherwise. Like how a future ting will be an upgrade over harmony mc just by the virtue of being fire and therefore playing into firefly's implant. Making gallachad physical also would've made him a bootyhill sustain, so both could've coexisted.
20:53 Doesn't (high refine) Post-Op allow her to run a break effect rope instead of ER, aka it basically gives 64.8% BE making it better than the previously mentioned Galla LC?
That's correct, and I think it was a bit of an oversight in the video. If you have both Post-Op and Galla LC then the better option depends on if you have better substats on your break ropes or energy ropes.
Is the light cone Post-Op Conversation (+16% Energy Regen) viable? This allows me to use a break rope instead of ERR. Anyway E1 Lingsha + E2 Firefly gave me 40k points in PF (up from 32k with Huohuo). I'm happy.
My copium Himeko break team was only pulling 35,000 this PF. I got Lingsha, slotted her in at E0/S0 and cleared 40,000 with ease. I even went in with Hunt March in break gear afterwards and got 40,000 again.
Myself a little conflicted but think I'll hold off. Got 1 limited sustain (Houhou) and E2 Gallagher, along with Firefly. Was kinda hoping for a sustain that gave debuffs for Dr. Ratio but she only gives one unless you count her lightcone. Guess I'll hold on for the next sustain.
She's definitely better than Gallagher, but is she 160 pulls worth better? I have all the other sustains in the game already and I've lost every 50/50 in Penacony soooooo I really can't risk using pulls on characters that aren't really game changing.
Tldr: shes an upgrade for ff team in terms of overall damage, apart from that shes a upgrade in terms of sustaining (the way how luocha is an upgrade to ghallager in terms of sustaining)
Bunny for lingsha, Although that E1 do be lookin really tasty. . . Keeping in mind we literally have archer coming in next year trying not to pull to build teams is gonna be hard, at least for me.
F2P here just lost 50/50 to Bailu ( the only somewhat decent healer I have since I have no preservation) and skint on stellar Jades. Wish me luck for next update
Since I am running a e2s1 Firefly, e6s1 HMC (they have RM lc), RM e1s0 (s5 motp), and Lingsha e1s1 do I need to worry about the 150 speed or not? I can already 0 cycle with the team as is but wondering if that much speed matters. She is currently at 144 speed with RM buff but do I need to worry about 150 or am I good
I've been on the fence on this but you've eased my doubts. Lingsha sounds amazing once you have her E1 and Fire E1. But considering I barely have Firefly e0 and not even her lightcone. Lingsha's character is not worth. She requires too much to be worth the pulls. Maybe in the future I'll get her. But as of right now I'll continue building my teams. As they are pretty meh in stats and lightcones.
I dunno. I might be in the market for Lingsha if I didn't already use my pity and SJ's for our Foxian general last week. Besides, my primary account is loaded with sustains, and on my secondary account Gallagher is at the stage of "that'll do" or " good enough". And, on top of all that, I'm pulling on Topaz once again, hoping she'll have mercy on me this time. That being said, the trial Lingsha did feel good to play, for what it's worth. I also did do one ten-pull on each account to see if I could get a lucky break. No dice, unfortunately. So, back to the Topaz mines it is.
Comparing Lingsha and Gallagher in a vacuum is quite misleading, should've compared it in a context of pulling Lingsha or pulling eidolons for FF or even RM and maintain Gallagher.
Lingsha is attractive for me because as long as Rappa is around then Lingsha will always have opportunities to drop AoE superbreaks. Ruan Mei and HMC buff 2 characters in battle instead of 1. Aventurine is attractive for me because husbando barricade boi, and I am a gemstone nerd who wants the funny space rocks.
lingsha's banner art has smoke that spells s - e in the top right, and when you see it in the windowed launcher the twitter X lines up with it.... coincidence? i think not, thus you must buy
Comparing E0 Lingsha vs E6 Gallagher when it's kinda more like: E0 -> E1 or E1 -> E2 FF vs replacing Gallagher Gallagher +S1 lingsha vs E0 lingsha Or any other upgrades could have gotten instead, when already have a Gallagher that's already performing very well. Just seems like an overkill to upgrade him over other things can do with the same amount of pulls. Ofc if just like lingsha, dont really need any more justifications than that to pull.
After Fexiao, I am saving everything for 3.x patches. 3.x will probably powercreep 2.0 in some sense like 2.x to 1.x with only 1 or 2 characters somehow bridging 2.x and 3.x like the previous 1.x and 2.x
imagine they release a character that works better the more summoned units there are on the field with 3 at max and right now she is the only sustain that has a summon
is it technically worth considering going for Lingsha Signature on an E6 Gallagher or is Lingsha E0 overall an improve for E0 Firefly? Is Lingsha guaranteed to be an upgrade for E1 Firefly? Last, is Lingsha also a good consideration in a Himeko team (to free Aventurine other siden as Huohuo Energy doesn't provide much to Himeko in comparison of more Breaks => more FUA) ?
Lingsha is better than Gallagher in terms of break effieciency and her aoe cleanse makes her way more comfortable to play against crowd control spam enemeis like Kafka with Spectral Envoy or Cocolia with the Ice bots. Lingsha provdes 12% more break dmg dealt multiplier to the whole teams attacks compared to Gallagher it is pretty noticeable. Definitely better in pure fiction her sustain not being tied to a debuff is a big quality of life upgrade since Gallagher can't keep up with the enemy spawns if you are defeating them quickly. I think if you are planning on maining Firefly than Lingsha is a big quality of life and dmg upgrade hard to go wrong here especially as upcoming enemies will be more aoe focused instead of single target so Gallagher will take longer to break enemies. In the upcoming Hoolay boss is fast enough to where the Besotted state can fall off almost immediately meaning you will be left without healing full party healing for a couple turns.
I heard that she is a must pull because supposedly we are gonna be moving to a summon meta or aomething like that so i am torned in either to pull for her or not since i dont have adventurine and might want to pull for him 😅😅
I'd say wait for her rerun because for all we know the summon meta could be like the trash can event we had last update which would mean none of the summons we already got in the game would benefit from it. Trash can event we could control the summon meanwhile we cannot control LL,Numby nor Fuyan ...
I say tied with huohuo, but with E1 yeah, she's the best. So much content right now and will continue for 2.6 and 2.7 because of Rappa and Tingyun that will favour her heavily. She might have great synergy with 3.X units too
Lingsha is more Comfortable than Gallagher because i use Lingsha on Adventurine boss and you dont need to save ult for healing/Dice roll and your characters wont get punished while Gallagher, you really need to save your ult for those dice roll and will get punished if you use your ult in first phase or second phase if you do it too early.
Can someone explain to me why outgoing healing on chest piece is better than atk? From my point of view because her healing scale on atk she heal plenty without the outgoing healing chest and will do (I assume) more damage with the atk chest piece
Atk chest piece is good if your units have really high HP(5000+) or can heal in some way like Firefly. Outgoing healing boost is better for general use.
@@devika2545 yes I get that but I feel that even with atk chest piece she can fully heal m'y team, and compared to shields that overcap the max hp, I don't see why I would need more outgoing healing if she already bring the team to full hp with atk chest piece, plus she has a trace that give her outgoing healing based on her BE
@@devika2545 Oh yeah I remember e1 FF doesn't use skill point so yeah I could see why outgoing healing could be better if lingsha cannot skill as much, thx
Yes, she's an improvement over Gallagher, but I'd rather spend my jades elsewhere as my Firefly team is already extremely comfortable. I haven't had problems clearing any content up until now at least so I'd rather save my jades to improve my other teams.
couldnt lingsha work with feixiao considering the number of FUA the bunny does, then at least you'd have some flexibility putting her into either team, there also seems to be the possibility of a summon meta soon, & lingsha would benefit if it's true
i would think that you should consider diversifying your investment to have 1 of each limited abundance and preservation. as much as i like Lingsha, since you already have HuoHuo - i would suggest getting Adventurine
I pulled her and will try for her sig but I pulled her cause I have an e2 s1 and an e1s1 firefly with no adventurine so my only limited sustain is an e1s1 houhou so I felt like I got an upgrade regardless
For those who are eagerly waiting for Sunday’s release but refuse to pull Lingsha cos “she’s just a slight upgrade to Gallagher”, yeah you guys are going to regret it and then pull her on her rerun lol
The problem i noticed is that the gap bewteen Preservation and Abundance units in terms of sustaining a team is insanely big. When i tested Lingsha in MoC 11 my units where one shot by the monkey. The healing Abundance characters like her and Huohuo do is good but it dosen't really matter if enemies can one tap you. We just have so many enemies/elites that do massive dmg. Abundance character alone simply isn't enough in order to solo sustain in my opinion and the devs need to come up with something otherwise Abundance becomes more and more obsolete.
I mean if the enemy can one shot you then run preservation, but if they do alot of instances of low damage then preservation will be useless since your teams health will decline slowly until one last big aoe hit that kills everyone. Each scenario has its own solution that's why it's a turn based game
it's a general problem in HSR, shields are just better, it's why Gepard was a balanced character because he had shields locked behind ult, so you needed ERR rope and aggro on him to have ult uptime, Aventurine on the other hand just give shields by existing, which is just broken
@@hyunitsu5 Has there ever been a fight were Aventurine was not good enough to sustain? In comparison, I can probably remember hundreds of times where I had to reset because someone a healer let someone die to burst damage.
@@farius8506 I don't have aventurine, I have fu xuan and based on her performance in previous apocalyptic shadows she can't sustain properly. Slowly chipping away at health and when reaching second phase the whole team dies. I don't have aventurine so I can't compare him myself
Depends on your account. They both have value in multiple teams, though if you already have E6 Gallagher then Topaz will probably be a better overall account investment.
If you don’t have 2 limited 5* sustains then pull Lingsha… if you have 2 limited 5* sustains never think about pulling a sustain unit ever again because after the first two the sustain pull value falls off a cliff
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Reasoning for the post op/break rope: You can get break effect on ER rope, but not ER on break effect rope.
CN went for the more optimized lightcone/relic set up to have more optimized stats, but post op/break rope is still viable 🤫👍
@@mrpokkee thanks mr strimmer :)
@@mrpokkee It should be noted that you need at least 2 substat rolls to Break Effect on the ERR rope to match the 16% Extra BE from BE rope compared to What is Real.
@@TheAnaz41745I didn't understand sh*t
man, I love when theres an abyssal difference of how loud the intro is in comparison with the rest, totally did not killed my ears.
Same. Sweet small whispers and then a fucking atomic bomb of an intro.
this comment popped up as a popular comment right before the intro ended just in time for me to anticipate and drop my volume. thank you for your service
it is so weird that this video miss out on the ER break point. And yes, BE rope+natasha light cone enable 3 turn ulti without being hit, enable u to hit that 200% BE easier for f2p
I thought about that but wouldn’t just going gallagher cone and getting break effect subtat on err rope still be better?
@@juxil8835Yeah, whichever you have can work, though Break rope has 16% higher BE than What is Real
Just to note that using Post Op on Lingsha also comes with extra Outgoing Heal on Ult, while What is Real only offer self heal aside from the Break Effect.
Either way, the goal is guaranteeing Lingsha 3 turns ult rotation
@@juxil8835 You can gey more break effect that way, but speed is more important
Post OP S5 >> WIR S5
You can get break effect on ERR but cant get ER on Break rope but Post OP also gives outgoing heal and you cant get that on rope..
Using Post OP S5 + Break rope also means that you only need SPD from substats while WIR S5 needed both BE and SPD to be the same..
right, getting S5 post-op from the not free gacha is easier for f2p than buying it literally for free. insane logic.
I watched the same video on Bilibili and if any of you somehow went for Luocha's light cone, it is her 2nd bis according to this video. All the buffs it gives are good, with atk%, energy regen on every attack including Fuyuan's depending on how many targets hit, and a team wide speed boost upon using ultimate. This lc could enable a 2 turn ultimate if there's enough enemies on the field. Understandable that Pokke didn't mention it, since most people didn't roll for it and if you don't already have it, you may as well just go for her own lc if you want a limited 5 star lc.
Thanks I was just going to ask the question, I got this LC during the rerun and was wondering if it was okay on her as I wanted to replace Luocha. 👍
Lingsha's main selling point for me is that Aoe cleanse and heal. If enemies ever get high spd and apply aoe CC or Dot frequently, Lingsha can solve that issue whereas Gallager has to spend skillpoints just like Natasha to cleanse.
Yea, the biggest selling point for me is that aoe cleanse.
What people dont understand is that, regardless whether lingsha is an upgrade over gallagher or not, is that hoyo can always make a problem we never had (an elite/boss that guarantees party-wide CC debuff) and sell the solution (lingsha has emergency party-wide cleanse). Not only that people always judge a unit based on "decimal value" instead of potentials on their kit (claiming lingsha's heal as weaker than other healer, not realizing that lingsha are made for break team, and break team doesnt really need sustain due to weakness break & ruanmei's ult)
@@pinkinglily6447 i mean people back then skips luocha only to cry about it later because their natasha can't sustain them anymore lmao, i feel like it's gonna happen again with lingsha because of her aoe cleanse
Suske. Hooley
Can she cleanse even when she is CC'd? If so then I'm pulling lol.
The way I look at sustain units now is that if they are able to contribute a bit more aside from sustaining. As long as they did more than sustain, whatever it may be, they are pretty worth it. Of course it depends on your team. Every sustain units are able to keep your team alive or barely.
Same. Fortunately she's looking to be the most offensive sustain to date. In her break team she contributes a lot of damage, to the point where she's essentially a sub DPS.
@peterbabicki8252 the problem is everywhere else. Aside from a single debuff from her ult, she does fucking nothing outside FF teams aside from one debbuf on ult
@@SchifferThe2nd This. I think nowadays, having the right sustain for a certain niche is arguably just as important as having the right support for that niche. Best example is with Firefly's team; Gallagher is a 4 star yet you would always run him over premium sustains like Fu Xuan ot Aventurine because of how much value he brings there.
Yeah, sp generation, team buffs/debuffs are more important than their personal damage.
If you have Post-Op at S5 you can run break effect rope as the LC's ERR is enough for a 3 turn ult.
How about if I use skill every turn with lingsha? I play with e1 FF. Do S5 Post OP needed for her to use BE Rope?
@@Synchronizebud Both skill and basic give the same amount of energy on Lingsha.
@@oli201 damn i forgot her trace💀
30 x 1.16 = 34.8 x 3 = 104.4
No it's not
@@paytience3932you get 5 energy back from ult. With the 1.16 that's 5.8, which is the missing amount to get to the 110 of her ult
I pulled for her and honestly she feels better than Gallagher offensively and the fact that she has a safety net heal is much more beneficial for me.
I will be pulling for her soon because I want firefly and I already have ruan Mei
Vertical investment is not for newer players or players who like to collect characters. Acheron is already OP, but we still pulled JQ. FF is already OP, but we still pull Lingsha. To me, increasing the team DPS is much more fun than making more teams because I already have many
as someone who don't have aventurine lingsha is a pretty great upgrade for FuA team comps and not just break teams. it's very comfortable using lingsha in feixiao's team to generate absurd amount of stacks and to trigger numby more often while also able to break shields like crazy
if you don’t have 2 limited 5* sustains just god damn get her. You never have to pull another sustain ever again at that point. “BuT- bUt, I hAvE gAlLaGhEr” yeah, now you have 2 genius. The most optimal sustain for a team is a negligible difference if you care so much then you don’t need to pull any sustain anyways because if you pull 3 limited 5* sustains for your account imma be honest… you’re kind of dented because they lose all pull value after the first two unless they add a game mode that requires 3 teams
She is literally just Aventurine but made for break… instead she also has a summon.
They both do debuffs, they both have FuAs, they both have high frequency attacks, they both act as a sub dps (Aven is more crit, and Lingsha is more break oriented)… Lingsha just has the addition of the summon which helps her have a place in a summon meta, but Aventurine has shields which are a proactive sustain compared to abundance healing which is reactive to enemy damage… Lingsha can cleanse but Aventurine has that 50% effect res thing, which I guess also plays into the proactive vs reactive theme
But she is literally just Aventurine but abundance
Should i get her if i already have HuoHuo and FuXuan? Mind you i don't have FF, but i do have Feixiao and i'm trying to build a FUA team
@@Super-7327nah
You are more than good
Get Aventurine
Tldr: She is a upgrade
not worth it one
thanks
But since she's a sustain and Gallagher is already super good, I would personally skip
@@JinWoo.. idk man, Gallagher can barely sustain anymore for me so he is only there for the debuff
@@hyunitsu5ikr, people overhype him so much
TL;DW: Skip Gallagher Pro Max if you already have an E6 Gallagher/2 limited sustains
better Erudition character than Jing yuan, there I said it, sue me
Who isn't? Serval perhaps...
Lingsha is my new pure fiction carry, the first Erubundance
In my opinion, Lingsha is a mix of Gallagher and Himeko. So she is the perfect option for players who needs a limited sustain and struggle at Pure Fiction.
If we get more AoE content against fire weak enemies, such as the 3 annoying puppets (the Past, the present and the future) that appeared 3 times in a roll at MoC 12, or Phantylia on AS, Lingsha's value goes up so much more.
Pokke: "She belongs in a Firefly team, specifically."
Also Pokke: *clears PF with Himeko at full points*
She can be run with any break units in the regular break team, but if there aren't any fire weak enemies she does fall off pretty hard without Firefly.
well yeah, the PF is catered towards Lingsha, of course she's gonna make clearing it easy
Wait I thought if you had a max dupe post-op conversations It meant that you can run a break effect rope? The video said not to run that light cone on her so is that false information?
Yeah you can run s5 post op with break rope
@@illusica Yep. I use Post Op S5 with a Break Effect rope, and I have the fast ult cycle. 16% Energy Regen is sufficient.
13:30 but aventurine pops tf off in aoe scenarios?
-edit: timestamp
TLDR: Meta perspective
1. If you have Firefly and haven't built Gallagher for some reason and facing issues with bosses like Kafka: Pull
2. Already have 2 solid sustains or don't have Firefly: Not Recommended
Her lightcone gives her debuff she's better then Gallagher on my acheron team aswell
@@mrJones-ii7sh lingsha debuffs are totally useless for acheron, gallagher at e0 already aplies 2 too, or just get aventurine that have good debuffs and will do good damage in acheron team + good sustain
@@mrJones-ii7sh What the f are you saying? 😂😂 Lingsha only gives 1 stack everytime she uses ult, while galla gives 2 with ult and enhance attack. Totally midsha
Didn't play when gallager was a rate up so I never built him. I really want Firefly and even considering her e1s1 in the future. I'm really happy I got Lingsha. I tried her out in DU while I await weekly reset and she's awesome! Goodbye Bailu!
@@kienquochuynh1106 that's not how that works he gives one debuff it doesn't stack. lingsha can skill followup ult skill follow up Gallagher doesn't even come close.
For those who have E0 FF, wait for the last day of her banner where we can get the beta kit of the upcoming Harmony mc replacement and if that character is extremely sp positive pull for Lingsha. Or pull for Lingsha, E1 FF, and also Harmony mc replacement which will take quite a lot of pulls.
I am pretty sure she will be very sp positive. Which is part of the reason why they made Lingsha be sp neutral, the other part being they probably didn't want to potentially powercreep Aventurine out of follow-up teams even before his first rerun, because Fuyuan has some crazy uptime if you can use Lingsha's skill a lot (which Feixiao teams certainly don't allow).
Also if the HMC replacement has 20% def shred on e1, it will be mega worth aiming for E1 for the entire FF team eventually (because not only that brings FF to exactly 100% shred, but also the rest of the team except the 4pc watchmaker user to like 85% shred with 4pc superbreak set if I'm not mistaken, which is diabolical considering how much damage Lingsha can already output), regardless of how sp positive HMC replacement is
@@sashimi3478 fair arguement but im pretty sure there will be another contorversy because hmc themself is really sp positive as well. And keep in mind that there will be a new meta (summons) coming right after tingyuns patch, which can possibly powercreep the break meta.
A second HMC would remove lingsha, not hmc.
Boothill already runs no sustann since it can oneshot almost anything.
A third support made for FF would put her on that same ballpark.
@@dingusbigus9629 I sincerely hope summon meta is not yet another addition to follow-up, it really gets on my nerves how hoyo doesn't even consider stopping for a moment to take care of some other archetypes (besides break, ofc). Like literally ever since 2.1 second half it's been follow up after break after follow up after break after follow up and you get the gist (the exception being Jiaoqiu but even he empowered Ratio's teams by a lot so you can argue he's also been a buff to FUA). And the next patch is likely gonna have yet another break support.
I hope summon meta is something new, and older summoners like JY and Topaz (Lingsha?) can shine there too, not exclusive to new ones. But I guess if those got included it'd be hard to not make it into just another FUA sub-archetype...
@@raulmaltrain6893what if that 2nd HMC canceled out the superbreak from the first one?
I pulled Lingsha and tried MOC 12 and have Lingsha in Team 1 (FuA) and Gallagher (Break) in Team 2 manage to complete moc12 first time.
Aventurine come next update for ur FuA team
Damn that's crazy, I don't have either firefly, boothill, or Feixiao. Her best 3 carries that can work best with her, I don't have any, but I also don't have any premium sustain either. And getting her literally make me go from barely beating MoC 11 to be able to clear MoC 12 and all other 2 end game immediately.
bro, she's really good and top tier sustain in many team comps.
@@sandeepinuganti8791 Never said she's not, my 2nd half of the comment literally just proved that. I just don't have the units that she was designed to play around with. She's a 5 star limited sustain, she need to do more than just sustain. Right now having her in my acccount is just having a fancy version of Gallaghur, she's not in full potential in my account yet.
To be fair you'll be able to "finally" beat MOC if you get any premium sustain it's just the matter of a choice which one you want.
One thing that wasn’t really covered is how well she works with Feixiao, a very comparable unit to aventurine especially with her light cone or e1. Even without she’s very solid for her
Interesting that critical build Lingsha is not mentioned. It is viable and decent since her heals scales with atk. Thinking about it, you can think of her as an abundance version of Aventurine. So if your Aventurine is being occupied, Lingsha can take his spot for FUA teams like Feixiao.
Her multipliers are rlly bad, only works with crit in pf
@@akshayreddy4071 While it's not the same lvl of dps units, her ATK frequencies makes up for it. As said before, I think of her as an abundance version of Aventurine.
luocha crit build too since he also scales of attack
@@Amir-ry7ppdifference is luocha isn't an erudition character disguised as an ambudence
@@akshayreddy4071just finished building her and she 3x my aventurine damge in follow up team.
Fu Xuan doesn't face any issues healing her team since her ult heals them anyway, and you want to use your ult every 3-4 turns to refresh her health swap.
Honestly, from a sustaining perspective I think Lingsha is not a good pickup because there's so many units that can keep your team alive. Scenarios where Fu and Aventurine can't sustain is also a scenario where Lingsha would fail. Her upside is literally just extra damage for firefly teams as a Galagher upgrade.
I have e2 Firefly, is she worth pulling for me, my firefly does so much damage that I don't think she needs more
I use Lingsha with E2 Firefly. While she doesn't need it since she already kills everything, it feels really good to be able to use the excess SP that wouldv'e otherwise overcapped with Gallagher.
Up to you whether it's worth replacing Gallagher.
I have E2 FF and use my E1S1 lingsha with her and she is amazing. Her contribution in terms of own dmg are really really good.
My e2 firefull flyshine cleared MoC, AS, and PF with lingsha and have barely any noticable improvement compared to gallagher.
like on MoC i was clearing 1 cycle -> 0 cycle.
Pure fiction 40k max score (stays the same)
Apocalyptic shadow (total score: 7000-> 7012)
so if you're pulling for meta, i don't think e2 firefly needs her, she is way too broken already lol
I would say no, e2s1 ff is already getting 40k points in every endgame mode for me.
@@PlsGiveMeLuckRNGesus yeah but lingsha is more versatile to place in other teams. she does fine with feixiao, does good in dot comps and complements acheron compared to gallagar that only really fits in sb
I can't wait for the comments to age poorly since hoyo will probably shill tf out of lingsha with enemy lineups and newer characters that cater towards her in the upcoming patches (just like they always do).
But a Yunli boss has already been leaked who is immune to break? And iirc, Hoolay or someone else has multiple break bars, so super break falls off a bit as it does no damage while the boss isn't broken. Not a very good way shill break.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Counter point Rappa and future summon characters have a better chance of catering towards her compared to other sustains we have now (with huo huo being an acceptation if they use energy). Also If tingyun does end up being a superbreak support lingsha will benefit greatly compared to other units.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Also leaked gameplay showed lingsha is much more comfy against hoolay compared to gallagoat but take that with a grain of salt cause leakers are bad at the game lol.
It will definitely happen 😆i came back to my previously watched vids to look at the comments again like E6 Sampo > E0 BS, E6 Lynx > E0 Huohuo and i cant help but laugh at all the poor ass thinking 4 stars can compete 😆give it 2-3 months max and look at the comment section of this video again 😆
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator its very simple, just dont use Break team.. Bosses have certain weakness that favors an archetype like fast = DoT, multiple waves = FuA
If you don't have any limited 5 star sustain char and if you have 2 teams for example break and follow up then it's much better to skip lingsha since we have Galla who is great (Lingsha is 100% better) but then we don't have a replacement for someone like huohuo or Aventurine in follow up or other teams in 4 star units so it's much better to save up for those limited 5 star sustains. (You can use lynx and others but we all know the power gap between lynx or natasha and someone like the preservation gremlin or huohuo)
she literally is so fun to use with firefly and her e1 is so juicy
sure but for most ppl lingsha E1 is not relatable, especially after feixiao and bobbin.
@@someoneinasiae1 is relatable tf f2p just need to plan their pulls out just like the f2p mr pokke recently reviewed did
@@UltimatePollo3495 nah, i do not think pulling for E1 lingsha would be that relatable since in this case, going straight for e2 firefly with e0 lingsha would be better PLUS if not break teams, then her s1 > e1.
@@zeply_kaiteki I am not talking what better for her but her e1 still relatable and obtainable for f2p
@@UltimatePollo3495 obtainable yes, relatable not really is what im trying to tell you, it is not the same.
finally a use for my early accidental luocha lightcone i pulled in early star rail days
I doubt we're going to get a physical equivalent for our boy Boothill, so I'll probably be pulling for her anyway.
Got e1 lingsha!! Now she's nihility erudition and abundance
Lot of cope in the comments Lingsha is total upgrade over Gallagher right now at E0S0 I don't see any reason to use Gallagher over Lingsha right now. Skill points are not an issue , the break efficiency is higher, the break dmg is higher, the healing is higher and she actually has room to grow whereas Gallagher is already as good as he is going to get.
The reason to use Gallagher over her is most people are clearing with zero issues with Gallagher already, a bit more damage isn't worth a shit ton of pulls if you already have E6 Gallagher. She's better but it's not a difference that is gonna make or break peoples accounts. Feels like the people that pulled for her are trying to justify wasting pulls on her by screaming from the rooftops that a 5 star that was made to replace a F2P friendly unit is better, holy shit, what a shocker.
@@markgruner5812 No character is going to make or break your account that makes no sense there is not one character in this game you absolutely need to pull for. You can safely invest into any character you want and clear the content. They might can't do it at E0S0 but E0S1 or E1S0 is more than enough to clear evertyhing bare minimum.
I'm just saying Lingsha is definitely better than Gallagher and most peoples reasons for not pulling is simply but my current options are doing fine which is absolutely great you shouldn't be forced to pull or feel like you are screwed if you don't pull a character. I don't "waste" pulls I get who I want I'm telling people that are interested that she provides a lot of benefits over Gallagher if this is who they choose to get.
@@markgruner5812stop clinging to the stupid bartender..
Lingsha is way better ..
When I heard rumours that a 5 star version of him is coming I knew I just had to wait and I did and I have her now ...
E6 bartender is copium for the upcoming content ....
😂😂😂
A 5star can do the job better more efficiently why ponder over a thing that gives meagre stuff even at high investment !!!
😂😂
@@Onii-Chan-UwU I'm not gonna spend pulls when I am comfortably 0 cycling with Gallagher already. Neither I'd anyone else with a brain.
@@markgruner5812 good for you... 🤣🤣
A lot of people hating and I am probably gonna get ratioed, but I think Lingsha is great especially e1. For those going full in on Super break, she is 100% worth it. I personally skipped for 4 banners including Feixiao and will continue skip until I can get another e2s1 (200 pulls each time I pull)
E1 is really good, but that does mean getting 2 copies. I dont think anyone hates her so much as that due to Gallagher she just isnt much of an upgrade unless going for E1.
So here is the reason most people will not pull. 50 pulls is 140$ Canadienne. So, if I was at 0 pity and lost the 50/50 i would in total have to spend 500$ to get e0s0. Now is an 8% upgrade worth 500$. That there is the biggest issue. I will hold off till a bigger upgrade to one of my teams comes along.
post op not recommended? another fellow guidemaker said post op is very good on her, expecially at s5 cuz you can run BE rope.
IMO hoyo screwed up, they should've made gallachad physical, because him already being fire makes lingsha look like a much smaller upgrade than she would've otherwise. Like how a future ting will be an upgrade over harmony mc just by the virtue of being fire and therefore playing into firefly's implant.
Making gallachad physical also would've made him a bootyhill sustain, so both could've coexisted.
20:53 Doesn't (high refine) Post-Op allow her to run a break effect rope instead of ER, aka it basically gives 64.8% BE making it better than the previously mentioned Galla LC?
That's correct, and I think it was a bit of an oversight in the video. If you have both Post-Op and Galla LC then the better option depends on if you have better substats on your break ropes or energy ropes.
Is the light cone Post-Op Conversation (+16% Energy Regen) viable? This allows me to use a break rope instead of ERR. Anyway E1 Lingsha + E2 Firefly gave me 40k points in PF (up from 32k with Huohuo). I'm happy.
It is viable
！！这个博主的视频解析我真的好喜欢，视频很好看，而且给的内容很容易了解。感谢pokke大哥给外网翻译！o(*￣▽￣*)ブ
I got Himeko 👍 (I can't take it anymore)
hey Himeko is also a Lingsha minus the healing lol
Gepard. Cry
lost to E2 Welt, we ballin 😎
I got E2 bailu super early. A sign to save 😌🙏
better than fking e7 yanqing
My copium Himeko break team was only pulling 35,000 this PF. I got Lingsha, slotted her in at E0/S0 and cleared 40,000 with ease. I even went in with Hunt March in break gear afterwards and got 40,000 again.
Myself a little conflicted but think I'll hold off. Got 1 limited sustain (Houhou) and E2 Gallagher, along with Firefly. Was kinda hoping for a sustain that gave debuffs for Dr. Ratio but she only gives one unless you count her lightcone. Guess I'll hold on for the next sustain.
She's definitely better than Gallagher, but is she 160 pulls worth better? I have all the other sustains in the game already and I've lost every 50/50 in Penacony soooooo I really can't risk using pulls on characters that aren't really game changing.
Tldr: shes an upgrade for ff team in terms of overall damage, apart from that shes a upgrade in terms of sustaining (the way how luocha is an upgrade to ghallager in terms of sustaining)
Ah and in case u don’t know.
Hold on before pulling.
5* tingyun will come soon and it’s said to be hmc s replacement
Perfect now I need that Blade and everything is good in life PLEASE RERUN BLADEEE
Bunny for lingsha, Although that E1 do be lookin really tasty. . . Keeping in mind we literally have archer coming in next year trying not to pull to build teams is gonna be hard, at least for me.
F2P here just lost 50/50 to Bailu ( the only somewhat decent healer I have since I have no preservation) and skint on stellar Jades. Wish me luck for next update
Since I am running a e2s1 Firefly, e6s1 HMC (they have RM lc), RM e1s0 (s5 motp), and Lingsha e1s1 do I need to worry about the 150 speed or not? I can already 0 cycle with the team as is but wondering if that much speed matters. She is currently at 144 speed with RM buff but do I need to worry about 150 or am I good
i just cleared DUv8 with her rn on autotraces and relics since I didnt expect to get her. needless to say shes pretty fucking good
Actually,she can be a sustain for follow up team too Nd she also can be sustain for firefly team
What about the rumor that 5 star Tingyun being a FIRE nihility BREAK unit might work with Lingsha??
I've been on the fence on this but you've eased my doubts. Lingsha sounds amazing once you have her E1 and Fire E1. But considering I barely have Firefly e0 and not even her lightcone. Lingsha's character is not worth. She requires too much to be worth the pulls. Maybe in the future I'll get her. But as of right now I'll continue building my teams. As they are pretty meh in stats and lightcones.
Fact. I have E6 Gallagher that I used along side of Firefly. Lingsha E1 S1 is worth.
I dunno. I might be in the market for Lingsha if I didn't already use my pity and SJ's for our Foxian general last week. Besides, my primary account is loaded with sustains, and on my secondary account Gallagher is at the stage of "that'll do" or " good enough". And, on top of all that, I'm pulling on Topaz once again, hoping she'll have mercy on me this time.
That being said, the trial Lingsha did feel good to play, for what it's worth. I also did do one ten-pull on each account to see if I could get a lucky break. No dice, unfortunately. So, back to the Topaz mines it is.
Im quite sad that my gallagher is only e2. I would like to pull for her but I also want to wait for 3.0
Comparing Lingsha and Gallagher in a vacuum is quite misleading, should've compared it in a context of pulling Lingsha or pulling eidolons for FF or even RM and maintain Gallagher.
Lingsha is attractive for me because as long as Rappa is around then Lingsha will always have opportunities to drop AoE superbreaks. Ruan Mei and HMC buff 2 characters in battle instead of 1.
Aventurine is attractive for me because husbando barricade boi, and I am a gemstone nerd who wants the funny space rocks.
lingsha's banner art has smoke that spells s - e in the top right, and when you see it in the windowed launcher the twitter X lines up with it.... coincidence? i think not, thus you must buy
Comparing E0 Lingsha vs E6 Gallagher when it's kinda more like:
E0 -> E1 or E1 -> E2 FF vs replacing Gallagher
Gallagher +S1 lingsha vs E0 lingsha
Or any other upgrades could have gotten instead, when already have a Gallagher that's already performing very well. Just seems like an overkill to upgrade him over other things can do with the same amount of pulls.
Ofc if just like lingsha, dont really need any more justifications than that to pull.
the best possible comp is lingsha, e2 firefly, ruan mei, harmony tb with ruan mei lc wow how expensive these team comps are getting
After Fexiao, I am saving everything for 3.x patches. 3.x will probably powercreep 2.0 in some sense like 2.x to 1.x with only 1 or 2 characters somehow bridging 2.x and 3.x like the previous 1.x and 2.x
Dude I missed out on HuoHuo rerun cuz I'm f2p and wanted to pull for FeiXiao 😭 I'm so sad she's the missing piece for my Yunli team
imagine they release a character that works better the more summoned units there are on the field with 3 at max and right now she is the only sustain that has a summon
Then get her in her rerun
crit lingsha has been pretty fun for me
Skipping for the 2.7 characters, might get her on a rerun
Conclusion : Aventurine reigns supreme
I'll just put Lingsha on my Firefly team, then put Gallagher into my other team
is it technically worth considering going for Lingsha Signature on an E6 Gallagher or is Lingsha E0 overall an improve for E0 Firefly?
Is Lingsha guaranteed to be an upgrade for E1 Firefly?
Last, is Lingsha also a good consideration in a Himeko team (to free Aventurine other siden as Huohuo Energy doesn't provide much to Himeko in comparison of more Breaks => more FUA) ?
Lingsha is better than Gallagher in terms of break effieciency and her aoe cleanse makes her way more comfortable to play against crowd control spam enemeis like Kafka with Spectral Envoy or Cocolia with the Ice bots. Lingsha provdes 12% more break dmg dealt multiplier to the whole teams attacks compared to Gallagher it is pretty noticeable.
Definitely better in pure fiction her sustain not being tied to a debuff is a big quality of life upgrade since Gallagher can't keep up with the enemy spawns if you are defeating them quickly.
I think if you are planning on maining Firefly than Lingsha is a big quality of life and dmg upgrade hard to go wrong here especially as upcoming enemies will be more aoe focused instead of single target so Gallagher will take longer to break enemies. In the upcoming Hoolay boss is fast enough to where the Besotted state can fall off almost immediately meaning you will be left without healing full party healing for a couple turns.
Stats?
preservation is better than the cure (abundance)
all for the amber lord
All for the amber lord
I heard that she is a must pull because supposedly we are gonna be moving to a summon meta or aomething like that so i am torned in either to pull for her or not since i dont have adventurine and might want to pull for him 😅😅
I'd say wait for her rerun because for all we know the summon meta could be like the trash can event we had last update which would mean none of the summons we already got in the game would benefit from it. Trash can event we could control the summon meanwhile we cannot control LL,Numby nor Fuyan ...
@@Pomho1812 thanks appreciate it
@@diegocoello3042 np
Is it just me or is the old mrpokke better than the new deep voice pokke + 2x speed pokke
Classic Mrpokke
The best abundance right now imo
I say tied with huohuo, but with E1 yeah, she's the best. So much content right now and will continue for 2.6 and 2.7 because of Rappa and Tingyun that will favour her heavily. She might have great synergy with 3.X units too
@@unendingvoidabsolutely not lol
@@gxosz absolutely not what?
huohuo def better
Fua team, break team. she even work with DoT team if you don't have huohuo too
Lingsha is more Comfortable than Gallagher because i use Lingsha on Adventurine boss and you dont need to save ult for healing/Dice roll and your characters wont get punished while Gallagher, you really need to save your ult for those dice roll and will get punished if you use your ult in first phase or second phase if you do it too early.
U see the dice ? Lmao just use asta
Can someone explain to me why outgoing healing on chest piece is better than atk? From my point of view because her healing scale on atk she heal plenty without the outgoing healing chest and will do (I assume) more damage with the atk chest piece
Atk chest piece is good if your units have really high HP(5000+) or can heal in some way like Firefly. Outgoing healing boost is better for general use.
@@devika2545 yes I get that but I feel that even with atk chest piece she can fully heal m'y team, and compared to shields that overcap the max hp, I don't see why I would need more outgoing healing if she already bring the team to full hp with atk chest piece, plus she has a trace that give her outgoing healing based on her BE
@@devika2545 Oh yeah I remember e1 FF doesn't use skill point so yeah I could see why outgoing healing could be better if lingsha cannot skill as much, thx
@@garoum9626 The trace has a limit. Also, if you're doing fine like that, then go ahead.
The trace has limit if you already maximized the trace with healing bonus chest, attack chest ain't do shit
What?! A 5star is better than a 4star?!! In my Gacha Game!!!? Say it ain't so
Meanwhile Herta...
@@peterbabicki8252 which 5star ice erudition are you comparing herta to?
@Rohan_Yadav7 forget about type, she's preferable to Argenti even when there are no Ice weak enemies _(in PF)_
@@peterbabicki8252 that's a shitty argenti build you got then. My f2p e0 4star lc argenti can 25k on auto even with off element
@@Rohan_Yadav7 I'd say that's a shitty Herta you have, because this PF she got 40,000 off element, on auto.
Yes, she's an improvement over Gallagher, but I'd rather spend my jades elsewhere as my Firefly team is already extremely comfortable. I haven't had problems clearing any content up until now at least so I'd rather save my jades to improve my other teams.
I only have HueHue as a limited sustain.
Should i wait for Aventurine for my Fei team or pull for Lingsha for my E1 FF?
couldnt lingsha work with feixiao considering the number of FUA the bunny does, then at least you'd have some flexibility putting her into either team, there also seems to be the possibility of a summon meta soon, & lingsha would benefit if it's true
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Firefly @@dashincorgi
Lingsha is good for both and might be the new meta too with her summons, but aventurine is rerunning next patch too so it's up to you
i would think that you should consider diversifying your investment to have 1 of each limited abundance and preservation. as much as i like Lingsha, since you already have HuoHuo - i would suggest getting Adventurine
@@hyunitsu5doesn’t the leaks for summons say that they can’t be buffed, healed or shielded.
If you go for E1 S1 it’s not even close. Lingsha has far higher potential
It’s so weird to hear Pokkee saying HuoHuo not HueHue
I pulled her and will try for her sig but I pulled her cause I have an e2 s1 and an e1s1 firefly with no adventurine so my only limited sustain is an e1s1 houhou so I felt like I got an upgrade regardless
Truly one of the characters
post op can give 2 turn ult if she gets hit.
did Pokke gain weight during his time in america
I was going some pulls for dupe currency to buy the tickets in the exchange shop and i got her on the first 10 pull, my account didn't need her.
For those who are eagerly waiting for Sunday’s release but refuse to pull Lingsha cos “she’s just a slight upgrade to Gallagher”, yeah you guys are going to regret it and then pull her on her rerun lol
we barely talk about Luocha E1
Ehhh I’ve clearing everything now doesn’t feel like I still need a second 5* healer other than my loucha.. yes 5* loucha still carries well
I don’t have a single Gallagher so she’s a better upgrade than my E2 Natasha lolol
Imagine pulling for e1 lingsha when you can pull e2 ff.
pulled her and I dont even play superbreak 😂 FUA comp + lingsha goes hard
The problem i noticed is that the gap bewteen Preservation and Abundance units in terms of sustaining a team is insanely big. When i tested Lingsha in MoC 11 my units where one shot by the monkey. The healing Abundance characters like her and Huohuo do is good but it dosen't really matter if enemies can one tap you. We just have so many enemies/elites that do massive dmg. Abundance character alone simply isn't enough in order to solo sustain in my opinion and the devs need to come up with something otherwise Abundance becomes more and more obsolete.
I mean if the enemy can one shot you then run preservation, but if they do alot of instances of low damage then preservation will be useless since your teams health will decline slowly until one last big aoe hit that kills everyone. Each scenario has its own solution that's why it's a turn based game
it's a general problem in HSR, shields are just better, it's why Gepard was a balanced character because he had shields locked behind ult, so you needed ERR rope and aggro on him to have ult uptime, Aventurine on the other hand just give shields by existing, which is just broken
@@ignisdracorex6433 bro upgrade your level
@@hyunitsu5 Has there ever been a fight were Aventurine was not good enough to sustain? In comparison, I can probably remember hundreds of times where I had to reset because someone a healer let someone die to burst damage.
@@farius8506 I don't have aventurine, I have fu xuan and based on her performance in previous apocalyptic shadows she can't sustain properly. Slowly chipping away at health and when reaching second phase the whole team dies. I don't have aventurine so I can't compare him myself
nice haircut dude looks good
GallaCHAD is good at breaking your legs while Lingsha is slightly better, has a cute bunny and smells nice 👍
CN animation is ao good
I run my linsha with shared feelings 😂when shes not in firefly team 😅
Chat, Lingsha or topass? Im f2p
For Firefly or FuA?
Depends on your account. They both have value in multiple teams, though if you already have E6 Gallagher then Topaz will probably be a better overall account investment.
@@peterbabicki8252 thanks 👍 Im on 71 pity wml
Skip for 2.6 Rerans
If you don’t have 2 limited 5* sustains then pull Lingsha… if you have 2 limited 5* sustains never think about pulling a sustain unit ever again because after the first two the sustain pull value falls off a cliff
Screw healing boost! i made my lingsha as erudition dps super break dmg!!