Alice In Wonderland test footage - Unbirthday Mad Tea Party - Disney
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2011
- Walt Disney often filmed actors as models for his animated features. What's surprising is that the audio from this crude footage for "Alice in Wonderland" is the actual audio used in the film. When Ed Wynn was brought back in to the recording studio to re-do his lines, the reading was not as good as the reference tests, so the test audio was used for the film.
I've synched up the test and the released film. with black placed where edits were made.
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I could have watched the entire movie that way.
Agreed.
Walt originally planned for it to be live action, but then decided it be animated
Actually way back in 1933 Walt wanted to make an Alice in Wonderland movie with Mary Pickford as a live action Alice going through an animated Wonderland, but it was scrapped last minute when Paramount released a big budget live action Alice in Wonderland with a big name cast that same year.
They should’ve just went with a live action
Me too is fantastic.
"Mustard! Yes, mu- MUSTARD?! Don't let's be silly! Lemon, that's different . . ."
Even the Mad Hatter has standards.
Best part is, with earl grey tea, a squeeze of lemon does go fine.
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Question. When he threw the mustard dish, did it actually break, or was it an added sound effect.
@@Thomas_H._Smith I'm pretty sure the props were made of something like primitive plastics. Breaking real dishes is a hazard and even back then it was generally discouraged (those ceramics cost money after all)
Ed Wynn was also in Mary Poppins. He was the uncle who floated whenever he laughed.
Of course! Ed Wynn only needs one take!
I can only imagine how hysterical Jerry was when he was reading the Marched Hare's lines "MAD WATCH! MAD WATCH!! MAD WATCH!!! THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO STOP A MAD WATCH!!!"
Two dayths sthlow. That'th what it iths.
SMASH IT WITH A HAMMA!!
@daelen.cclark it's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT I TELL YOU!
I always loved Mad Hatter’s reaction to mustard, Ed Wynn was hilarious in that moment
Here are a couple interesting facts about the film 1. Alice in Wonderland was the first Disney film to have end credits. Also Alice on Wonderland is the disney film with the most songs in it!
I remember Cinderella having end credits too, and it preceded Alice in Wonderland.
I’m pretty sure it has the most deleted songs too!
@@everenrae9005 Mary Poppins might beat it for most deleted but definitely close.
Weird bc the films after didn’t have them until the modern disney films of today
@@JacobMKeeneAKADrPepperKing No. There weren't any end credits. It end with The End.
That looks like SOOOOOO much fun!
I can't even imagine that movie without his voice, he brought a lot of the sort of silliness that's in the book to the screen and I don't think anybody else could have done it half as well.
I feel like they used to be better at casting voices for animated films,
these days it's like George Clooney or Antonio Banderas.
This footage is stunning. Having no idea what cast looked like I never could have imagined.
He chucked the cup over his shoulder XD Improv at its finest
He was absolutely the PERFECT person to voice that character. I wish they would've done a live action version with him in it too.
So they were literally acting out the scenes while doing the voice acting?
And is anyone else disappointed the gent who played the rabbit isn't also doing any antics?
Yes, this is reference footage the animators used to create the animation.
@Ethan Corpuz Not that I'm aware of.
His eyes were INSANE!
He may have been directed not to move too much. The camera would slip out of focus and some mic's are VERY sensitive to some sounds like feet, rustling clothes, etc.
They did do a sketch for the warlus’ dance
I love Ed Wynn's interpretation of the Mat Hatter. "Mustard!? Don't lets be silly! Lemon...that's different ehhh..." XD
Same with Jerry Cologna (I grew up watching references from Looney Tunes on Jerry Cologna)
This would also explain the reverb in the audio, in some scenes when the Mad Hatter speaks - particularly in the "MUSTARD?!" quote
This dialogue still makes me smile even to this day! Alice in wonderland is such a great film :) i decided to read the book because of the disney film and loved that too
When Ed Wynn hits the spoons it looked like it hurt. Either way GREAT job by both of them!
I wish I could grow a moustache half as majestic as that man's.
Awesome! to see the actors acting like thier characters. I have always loved the mad hatter and the march hare
That mad March Hare breaking the 4th wall and confiding in the audience, priceless. The theater must have been rocking with laughter.
Oh, and Happy Unbirthday to everyone!
ALICE WAS A REAL GIRL
Beautiful job!!!! Thanks so much for posting!
This is just splendid... I knew (of course) that Ed Wynn played the Mad Hatter, but I didn't realize that I'd recognize the March Hare as well! So cool to see the actors juxtaposed with the cartoon... Brilliantly put together. :-)
Ed Wynn again. His voice has always caught my attention. And I just seen him on a old Twilight Zone episode two nights ago. "One for the Angels." Ed Wynn. (Isaiah Edwin Leopold) Born: November 9, 1886, Philadelphia, PA Died: June 19, 1966, Beverly Hills, CA. He was 80 years old. Cause of death: Esophageal cancer. What a fascinating life he must of had to be born and lived during that time. To see America in it's earlier years of developing industry and medicine, along with the inventions and wars that came out of it. You still have fans Ed Wynn. RIP and Good Bless.
0:57--Ed Wynn actually tossed the jar over his shoulder and broke it!
I love that about classic Disney, using references with the actors. It's such a wonderful idea.
I'm sure those two had a very happy unbirthday! :D
the guy for mad hatter is literally perfect and i wish he was immortal and my friend
Ed Wynn you always crack me up!
Oh my god....this is....THIS IS AMAZING!!!! *giggles* oh gosh this just made me smile all the way through I love Ed Wynn hes the best! >w<
Gosh I wish that animators still did that today, I wonder if they do sort of ._.
Essentially, old fasion motion capture, truly genius
i dont think anyone will ever be as love animation as much as Walt Disney
Ed Wynn looked like he was having a lot of fun with this role.
Amazing ! Thank you for taking the time to sync these. It represents a precious time capsule in the history of entertainment.
How interesting, and it's still cool to see the designers laughing while they work!
Que interessante, e ainda é legal ver o desenhistas rindo enconto trabalham!
how on earth did you find that footage! THAT IS AMAZING!
It's part of a Walt Disney TV show that is included on the Alice DVD. I edited it and synched it to the cartoon myself.
Which dvd
X0209 The Masterpiece Edition
That was amazing!
Thank You for your time and effort!
Really puts a more complete perspective and deeper understanding of this iconic film!
Thanks!
Outstanding work putting the two together. thanks!
It was perfect that they cast Ed Wynn as the Mad Hatter. His father was a hat maker and wanted his son to takeover the family’s business.
My favorite scene from one of my favorite childhood films. Thx so much for this, it was a treat.
i loved ed wynn. he makes me laugh
I wonder what Ed Wynn would think if he ever saw Wreck-It Ralph.
I forgot her name but Alice's actor moves exactly like Alice in the final film.
That's why they film the reference footage.
Her name is Kathryn Baumont. She also happened to be the voice of Wendy in "Peter Pan." :-)
Broadway Classixs I know they drew alice after the actor but isn't reference just to examine the movement of the actors to redraw?
No, they sometimes use the live action footage to trace over for the animation
directly - as happened with Kathryn.
^ An act known as rotoscoping.
When you are so good at acting that your lines from when you were acting were used for the actual movie.
Dude,this is awesome!! i love how you put it together, i wish there was more footage.Thanks a lot for this upload.A great classic film by a great cast of actors.
0:39 That laugh will never stop being one of the most iconic ones in cinematic history 😂😂😂
What's something the Mad Hatter and the Genie have in common? They threw their voice actors in a room, turned on the mic, and then let them run wild.
Wynn actually throwing the tea cup (and presumably breaking it) was TOO funny. Though it probably wasn’t for the poor staffer who had to clean it up.
the incredulity at "mustard" has always killed me.
Well... That was cool!
Those guys knew how to voice a cartoon character!
They say King Candy from Wreck It Ralph was inspired by Ed Wynn, but I believe the Mad Hatter bares a greater resemblance to the character
What about the carpenter inspiring Felix?
The VHS copy we had included shots of this in the ending and I always thought it was so boring because I was, like, maybe 7? and I didn't understand why they were showing black and white live action stuff but now that I'm older this is so fascinating. We don't have the VHS anymore so it's cool to watch this again :)
And I am the first one ever to match it to the animation!
A great side by side -- and yes, that's exactly what happened. Ward Kimball related the story (to Ross B. Care) of how they used the low fidelity track Ed Wynn ad-libbed while shooting the reference footage. To quote Kimball: "When Walt saw the live action test he said, 'Let's use THAT sound track! That's great!' The sound department hit the fan, complaining, 'We can't use the test-track; there's too much background noise!' To which Walt simply replied, 'That's your problem!' and walked out of the room." - - - I first read about this in a great book from 1987: Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters by John Grant.
That's where I read about that, too. I absolutely love that anecdote, because it simultaneously encapsulates Walt Disney as both a conscientious perfectionist and a total bastard. (Seriously, imagine your boss giving you a unreasonable order like that and then just walking out. 🤣)
I really do wonder how they made that track usable --- it couldn't have been easy back then without digital tools to help clean up the audio.
I never realised Ed Wynn was in this. I know him from 'The Diary of Anne Frank'.
I saw the film too. Ed Wynn was really an excellent actor. I like his work.
Both of these boys are brilliant.
It's always brilliant to see such priceless footage as this.
This is so cool. It's so neat seeing Ed at work!
The march hare's mustache is awesome
Wow.....it's really cool.....and beautiful work. Every animation should do that way.
Most do but some don't need to do it as much especially if it is heavily stylized.
Jerry Colonna and Ed Wynn would’ve made a hilarious double act, back in the day.
Mustard yes....mustard!? Oh don be silly lol gets me everytime 🤣😂
I like to think of this technique as prototype motion-capture
I heard there was a lot of improvisation that Disney wanted to include in the movie, but couldn't because of all the background noise.
***** No, this was planned reference footage for animators, which Disney shot for almost all its features. The surprising thing was that the audio was used, which was almost never done.
The butter grossed me out in the animation
@@terencewilliammckenna6121 But why? It was the very best butter.
@@boink345 To hear animator Ward Kimball tell it, it ended up that way because usually the actors would perform their scenes along to a prerecorded dialogue track they had already done, but Ed Wynn was having trouble keeping up with his own lines, so he finally just asked them to turn off the track and he'd just roughly remember the script. The dialogue he ad-libbed during that filming turned out to be much funnier than what had been recorded originally, and when Walt Disney heard it he ordered that that track be used instead ---- which immediately created a problem for the sound engineers because that audio had a lot of background noise that they'd somehow have to clean up.
That is lost footage gold for a classic masterpiece cartoon watched by generations of audiences . The voice overs were a who's who of vaudville and cinema icons. All distinctive character voices that enhanced the viewing and listening enjoyment .
It’s amazing that the filmmakers use both motion capture and 2D animation.
Thanks!, This is so cool. Mad hatter is my favorite. When I was young, I saw the tea party scene, at the end, I said out loud, "Wow that was the best tea party ever!" and then Alice said right after me, "this is the stupidest tea party I ever been to in all my life" I laughed so hard...
This is a GREAT piece of history. Wow! :)
Walt loved it so much he had to have it in the movie.
The stuff that was originally written for the movie wasn't as funny as what Ed Wynn improvised on the set, so they ended up using the audio from the acting reference
This is actually really neat to see
Awe man that was awesome...my favorite scene amongst others...great film
This is great!
Nice work! And thanks for pointing out Walt's simple, effective technique!
This made me smile
What I don't get is how come with, Alice, Hatter, and the rest of the cast they built full costumes but with the March Hare he's just in a shirt, they couldn't have given him a pair of bunny ears, or at least bow tye like they did with Sterling Holloway as the Cheshire Cat.
0:51 "Musthtard yeth ye- MUSTHTARD?!"
I love that they would recreate the scenes to make the drawings. Those 9 Old Men at Disney were geniuses. It's sad in a way to know that now it's all done with computers and not talent.
This is really cool!
Thanks - I wish there was more, too!
great work you did here. fantastic
+jose molinaro Thanks! It was fun to discover this.
This is fantastic!
Late to the party with this, but thank you for posting.
A pitch for the angels!!
I was about to make the same comment lol
I knew it
Big thanks to them
Didn't expect to see Jerry Colonna. We have a photo of my great uncle in WWII with Jerry, Bob Hope and a couple of others.
This is comedy gold.
Can you imagine getting to be in the same room with both these geniuses???
Absolutely brilliant.
How neat! I'm surprised that exact audio was used.
This is amazing!
0:51 MUSTARD!😆😂😆😂😆
0:52 love the way he says “Mustard”??!
If only other classic Disney movies would show live-action clips like this
Ed Wynn was incredible. Loved him in this and Mary Poppins. And I never knew he turned down wizard of oz. Such a shame
With actors like that who needs cartoons? Those guys would have been great in a live action version.
This test footage that was never meant to be seen is unironically better than the actual 1933 version.
How the heck does the people draw when looking at that performance? I've seen a professional draw in real time and you'd hardly be able to get a key pose sketch in the amount of time those actors are performing.
Unless ofcourse they were just recorded and the animators saw it on a big screen. Either way, points to the actors and animators ów0
They're just drawing for show - of course, none of that was used.
My favorite scene
It would have been just as good if it was live-action with these extremely talented actors.
How interesting! Tthank you!