Mooch is the man. Mooch said in one interview that you could reach out if you need help. A lot of people say this but very few people ever respond whereas mooch responded to me immediately. He is as real as they come. Thank you mooch, I’m still struggling but your words give me hope.
Amazing thing about this is how reliable this is. I left the Vagos in 2021. Everyone I was told to stay away from is now a key part of my support system. Other clubs and even people from different chapters we didn’t get along with. All these dudes rooting for my success, while my old “brothers” rooting for my downfall. Keep it going guys. Great to know that there are others other there that have bonded.
That’s a solid point about how the cycle continues and why the wars have not ended from old wounds from losing someone or being put in a situation that fuels the hate between the clubs. It’s not impossible we seen it happen with the Black motorcycle scene with ending rivalry between one another and coming together as a whole for unity.
Great sit down and great topic. I was in a club 79-89 in the Midwest. We all knew the AOA and HA were at war, and you had to pick a side because everyone was sort of affiliated having members having Ty’s with the big MCs. Clubs were divided by there war, because just like today they want to know who has there back. I hope you keep these talks going, it’s long overdue.
Some good points, made in this video, and (and this is IMPORTANT) from people who have "been there, done that". The message: "Hey, we don't have all the answers, but if you think about it, under the "patch" we have a lot in common". is worth keeping in mind. Looking forward to the day when more 1%ers are thinking along the same lines.
First step is finding actual chapters on both sides that want to quash the problems. If they bring it to attention that they want to drop it it may catch on. Especially if they say they want to and not are going to. Start the movement guys.
This was extremely refreshing to see. I've had a biased view on the 81 for so long being an Oregon boy like yourself and just how some of the things are there. I'm no patch holder but have friends. Just good to see real men keeping it real at the end of the day. I will continue to keep an eye out for the new Podcast. Be safe out there Mooch.
Wow! This is great! It's very reassuring to see three men, as u said all from different clubs ( "patches" ) being able to sit down and coming together to collaborate on these very important and obviously challenging issues that everyone is seeing in today's culter. I really agree with what I heard being said about respect and how important it is to show and have this. Respect is earned and obviously you gentlemen are able to understand this because you're all sitting down together. One of the greatest challenges I've seen where I live currently is that people don't have the capacity to acknowledge respect in some that deserves respect. So what happens when you meet close cultured communities that are cut off from seeing the full perspective as a while and not just their own. Most people these days don't even try or want to seek any other view aside from what makes them comfortable. This I feel is largely a part of the over all debate/conflict is that most people's opinions are not even that of their own but rather developed from the influence of others around them. So first we MUST make clear that we are actually receiving truth itself and not someone else's deception of truth. No one wants to be uncomfortable. And if things are making them uncomfortable that is usually a good thing. This means they are being forced to look at their own character and having to ask themselves why? What is their motivation and why are they doing what they're doing? No one wants to feel or believe that THIER belief or culture could be wrong or that there is more out there. So for me I feel like awareness is the key. You three gentlemen illustrate this picture perfectly by doing exactly what you're doing. I'm a recent follow of "Mooch" his approach/demeanor, everything about him in general catches and keeps my attention. So I'm all ear anytime he's involved. I can't thank you enough for what you're doing here. It's going to revolutionize the culture for sure and I really just think people are just not sure how or where it's all gonna go! I know you guys didn't chose this life it chose you so here really isn't anything that anyone could do to change. Just gotta roll with it and see where it ends. MLLHR Nikki aka Hony
Mooch, I just finished your book. Excellent and fast read.... You're one of those guys that makes me proud of my Italian heritage! Then I see this and I can tell your former brothers are in your heart as well as the two former HA members. So much good happening here..... Much respect....
I think that's great you guys really showed class. And actually a true brotherhood learning about each other and the other clubs. Right independent and have fun be free
Love this. Good on you for putting this group together. Undoubtedly, there’s people applying pressure attempting to prevent these types of conversations but the community needs much more of this. How many people are in the grave or currently doing life sentences because of unresolved hatred for a different patch?
Hey Mooch! Just wanted to share my appreciation for all your incredible work. I'm an LCSW in Indiana and was really impressed when I found out you're in the SW field too. I've conducted a few therapy sessions on our bikes with clients who ride. Just turned our Bluetooths on and made it happen! This is such an interesting sit down. I guess I'm still so brainwashed from 2007-2010 watching gangland, I feel like that show painted an overly dramatic picture of MC culture/rivalries. Would you ever consider doing a video about this?
This is absolutely fu__ing beautiful!!! We... the underground... the Man of men... MUST come to an understanding!.. we are on the cusp of needing to protect our own ON our own... like minds all at the Table... speaking honestly with Respect and Integrity... fighting for what is WORTH fighting for.
Mooch! You are a true inspiration for lots of us! Awesome guys that you have in this interview ! Let us know if you ever in Vancouver and you wanna ride adventure bikes! Much respect to you and your guests! 👊
Great To See a Topic That Needed Attention For Years.. Many L A Street Gang Are Posting Unity Meet Ups.. The Bike Culture Loses to The System, Because When Locked Up, The System Makes Money, But When We Are Out, We Stay Making Money.. See It's a Cycle to Keep Us In Check, Law Enforcement Has Job Security Due To Our Choices.. I'm a Street Pastor, & I am a Huge Positive Social Media Influencer That Rides & I'll Stand With Anyone That Can Break The Deadly Cycle That Loses Brother on Both Ends.. God Bless The Courage of These Men... 👏😎
I was in southern Oregon when The Mongols started the first charters. They were all over the newspapers and tv news, mostly fearmongering media hyperbole. I asked an old Vago friend about them and he said ''I don't really know them well ,but Mooch is cool''. People who were independents but closely linked to the Angels also said the same thing. Coupla folks who had ''unfavorable '' feeling about the Mongols grudgingly admitted that Mooch was alright. Can't wait to get ''The Ride of My Life''. I like the ''brotherhood of all the stuff we have in common ''aspect of your mission . Will keep listening. ''-Jack the Baptist''
Thank you for expressing your time. Myself (love to ride, never patched), to sit beside a rider.... I feel they have hit bottom because I have. To listen & respect them with knowing their presence is grace. To explain older members/younger & middle members. Will always stand tall with huge respect, because they walk stronger than anyone.
Thks for many new ideas!! I am so Ol school based as a wife & gf I just never thought I would hear this I can’t imagine hearing this in the 60’s. Things were really different then. I thk I would like to hear more & can learn a lot. Thks guys. AZ 🏍️
Amazing episode!! So happy to see the camaraderie and relatability between likeminded individuals!! Great, positive message and definitely breaking some boundaries!! Keep up such amazing work!!
United We Conquer 🗡 As a veteran this ethos sums up the common denominators between those with the same beliefs and values. Per Mare Per Terram, Qua Patet Orbis, Semper Fi 🦅🌎⚓️ 🤝🏻🇬🇧🇳🇱🇺🇸
If you take the patch away we are literally copy and paste of each other man. We all love the same thing. Very well said and this is a big thing, 3 men that should have been at "war" according to an old ass beef.
This is pretty cool ten years ago the people on stage would be enemies trying to kill each other ,these guys decided to man up and put there differences aside ...
That transition back to life isn't easy. It's not like we had someone there to help us figure out how do get back into normal society. It took me years to adjust and I'm still not 100% ok.
No, what’s really cool it’s two houses angels and a mango is sitting down and talking like men and not acting like kids killing each other because of a patch and whatever rocker you’re wearing just imagine if these clubs came together I know they’ll never be buddy buddy, but they’re pretty much the same
Yeah, my dad was in a bike club and I never understood why you guys kill each other because you guys are the same people. Just imagine if these clubs would come together and put the guns down. They would be the strongest people in the world the bikers but the government wants some to be divided, because if the clubs ever come together, the cops will be in trouble, but I’m not understood why bike club kill each other when there’s enough territory for everybody
It's always over a girl, the problem lies in leadership. Most of them have been through the violence. So it's ingrained in them . The average kid who just wants to ride, just wants to party and have fun. One cross word from a older guy , gets the kid ready to do anything to prove himself.
Thank you for checking out the channel. I mean this with all due respect. But I’ve always wondered why people choose to support a club that is not in their area and not one of the local clubs. What made you become a 81 supporter?
I think it's got a lot to do with how wrapped up HA is in American iconography. That and people want to be associated with something tuff without getting their hands dirty. These types chirp a lot when Im wearing a black and white support shirt but never really do anything beyond that. 681 SYLM
@@MondaysWithMooch #1 I lost My virginity to a HELLS ANGELS daughter here in SALEM OREGON when I was 17. #2 when I was a MARINE I got cut in as a traditional skinhead by another MARINE and his crew from New Hampshire. I then linked up at east coast OI fest 2008. Then when I got out of the military I prospected for FLS Salem and Eugene. I made it after a year. They treated me like complete shit and watched me get my head stomped in the concrete and a street fight behind the horse head in Eugene. I lived at the house with Cory, Brandon Livingston (the one my mom took care of) I met your brother Jeremy there he said what’s up skinhead back in 2008. Lucas yelled at me and threatened to beat me up when he was prospecting for the Mongols for no fucking reason. I got no respect for doing two combat deployments to Iraq 🇮🇶 in 2008 I remember RCBB came down and hung out with us and Eugene. The reason why I don’t want to hang out with the gypsy jokers is because my best friend growing up Chris Lindsey known as Donnie started prospecting for them, then got basically decapitated at the pub and grub in West Salem. I do not support the free souls because I am family friends with Mike Murdock‘s family and I have a huge history with all of them. the crazy thing is I actually have bodies on my soul and here I am getting yelled at by a mongo that does not. I know who you are Justin I was born in Salem, Oregon 1986. I had a daughter with Shawn Reinhardt ‘s sister. I remember seeing you as a skinhead at punk rock shows when I was 14 years old, like defiance and casualties and conflict and all that stuff I thought you were really cool. I am now way up there 👁️ if U know what 👁️ mean. And I am getting ready go to George fox university to get My degrees.
That’s awesome you’re going to go to GFU. I really enjoyed it there and it’s a great program. Thank you for the explanation homie. Happy you’re doing well
That was the initial start, Chester green but Chester was an informant and snitched on the angels. That was likely more the root of the drama than a woman. The woman was likely just the straw
Hey brother idk how to reach you so I'll just ask here. Did y'all ever consider starting a chapter in Kentucky? Seemed like y'all had chapters all around us but not here. Or was there a certain reason if you don't mind me asking
@@MondaysWithMooch oh that's wild if they did because west ky where I'm at has 81 and Louisville has the outlaws. I think they been around since the 60s or 70s there.
I think it’s great to move forward. And if anyone can start the movement to achieve this is you guys along with guys like George Christie. I’d love to see Mooch and George sit down. Esp from 2 different generations. I think in most clubs. At least my club is all Ole Ladies “property of” are off limits. And I think when organizations meet like the COC and club presidents should have sit downs. A rule should be all Ole Ladies regardless of clubs need to be off limits. It’s always from the beginning of time been women that get guys into trouble. Way before MC’s even existed. And yes all clubs need to ban together to be a strong force against the one true enemy. The government. And it can’t be done if we’re thinking with the wrong head
@@MondaysWithMooch it’s like a documentary I saw , USA nam vet , visits Vietnam n meets commander of vietcong division his division was fighting for his one year draft tour
Im 64 years old and been riding since I was 9, Ive heard the bad shit forever. It really is time to bury the hatchet. Sturing the pot will always be a pass time though.
There is something to be said for knowing who the real enemy is. I'm not in a 1% club and I would never imply that I know what's going on in any other club but I do know this. I have never been hassled or stepped to by a member of any MC but I've been hassled like a motherfucker from cops. The bullshit they pull with having GTF folders on every club out there and I mean every club. The most "gangster" thing I have done with my cut on was stole some gummy bears off the top of my frozen yogurt when I took my daughter for a ride to the yogurt barn. I have had several different police departments run my plates for no reason, stop me on the side of the road and try to tell me they don’t need a search warrant to search my bags because I'm a known associate of a criminal organization because the county sheriff has a GTF folder on every Club from Motorcycle Ministry Clubs to all the 1% clubs. It's not my place to tell men in another Club what they should do or not do but sometimes it would be good for us to remember that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Do I think all these MC are going to sit around a camp fire singing folk songs and talking hippy peace and love stuff? No. But do I think it would be a good idea for all the MC to at least put a hold on the beef and deal with the bigger issue of the government trying to fuck us all over? Yes. My unit when I was in the Marine Corps we had a saying. "We hate each other but we hate you more." Deal with your common enemy and you might find out you have more in common with that other Club than you thought.
You can’t tell me these two hell angels weren’t nervous riding with a mongo. They probably thought they were being set up. It would make me nervous because you know the history of these two clubs.
It was actually me, going solo to their event. But I’ve been talking to these guys for months and trust them. No fear on either side as we all had the best intentions
The government is the problem, hit the nail on the head. They even pit member against member of the same club. These guys have a love for it but guess just got sick of the bs.
That’s an absolute fact and the main thing still driving all of this. Despite uneducated popular opinion it has nothing to do with money or territory and is all based on ego
Once again this is the problem with BIG clubs like this. Say it all the time IF you wanna join a club join a small club that doesnt care about the BS even tho politics kinda has its fingers in it all.
We need new clubs. We all want brotherhood friendship fun not funerals ancient beefs etc we have 1%er we have 99s what we need are plane old two piece no state motorcycle clubs
what's the process of leaving one of these clubs? I can only imagine this would be an awkward conversation if you wake up one day and had enough of that life.
It’s actually pretty common for people to leave for various reasons. Contrary to popular belief, members can leave at any time. No one is forced to stay in
Mooch is the man. Mooch said in one interview that you could reach out if you need help. A lot of people say this but very few people ever respond whereas mooch responded to me immediately. He is as real as they come. Thank you mooch, I’m still struggling but your words give me hope.
Amazing thing about this is how reliable this is. I left the Vagos in 2021. Everyone I was told to stay away from is now a key part of my support system. Other clubs and even people from different chapters we didn’t get along with. All these dudes rooting for my success, while my old “brothers” rooting for my downfall. Keep it going guys. Great to know that there are others other there that have bonded.
Good stuff mooch still keeping the REAL BROTHERHOOD ALIVE...
ILL NEVER FORGET THE LOVE I GOT FROM YOU AND THE GUYS IN STL...
Much love homie
That's awesome, I didn't realize everyone else communicated with the revs. That surprises me but it's a no brainer at the same time.
Would love to do a sit down with you mooch, talk about a WHOLE different perspective on the clubs.
That’s a solid point about how the cycle continues and why the wars have not ended from old wounds from losing someone or being put in a situation that fuels the hate between the clubs. It’s not impossible we seen it happen with the Black motorcycle scene with ending rivalry between one another and coming together as a whole for unity.
Good EP! I think a Mondays with Mooch with Lil Dave would break the internet!
Great sit down and great topic. I was in a club 79-89 in the Midwest. We all knew the AOA and HA were at war, and you had to pick a side because everyone was sort of affiliated having members having Ty’s with the big MCs. Clubs were divided by there war, because just like today they want to know who has there back. I hope you keep these talks going, it’s long overdue.
Some good points, made in this video, and (and this is IMPORTANT) from people who have "been there, done that".
The message: "Hey, we don't have all the answers, but if you think about it, under the "patch" we have a lot in common".
is worth keeping in mind. Looking forward to the day when more 1%ers are thinking along the same lines.
Really great to see love you and your channel!
First step is finding actual chapters on both sides that want to quash the problems. If they bring it to attention that they want to drop it it may catch on. Especially if they say they want to and not are going to. Start the movement guys.
This was extremely refreshing to see. I've had a biased view on the 81 for so long being an Oregon boy like yourself and just how some of the things are there. I'm no patch holder but have friends. Just good to see real men keeping it real at the end of the day. I will continue to keep an eye out for the new Podcast. Be safe out there Mooch.
Wow! This is great! It's very reassuring to see three men, as u said all from different clubs ( "patches" ) being able to sit down and coming together to collaborate on these very important and obviously challenging issues that everyone is seeing in today's culter. I really agree with what I heard being said about respect and how important it is to show and have this. Respect is earned and obviously you gentlemen are able to understand this because you're all sitting down together. One of the greatest challenges I've seen where I live currently is that people don't have the capacity to acknowledge respect in some that deserves respect. So what happens when you meet close cultured communities that are cut off from seeing the full perspective as a while and not just their own. Most people these days don't even try or want to seek any other view aside from what makes them comfortable. This I feel is largely a part of the over all debate/conflict is that most people's opinions are not even that of their own but rather developed from the influence of others around them. So first we MUST make clear that we are actually receiving truth itself and not someone else's deception of truth.
No one wants to be uncomfortable. And if things are making them uncomfortable that is usually a good thing. This means they are being forced to look at their own character and having to ask themselves why? What is their motivation and why are they doing what they're doing? No one wants to feel or believe that THIER belief or culture could be wrong or that there is more out there.
So for me I feel like awareness is the key. You three gentlemen illustrate this picture perfectly by doing exactly what you're doing.
I'm a recent follow of "Mooch" his approach/demeanor, everything about him in general catches and keeps my attention. So I'm all ear anytime he's involved. I can't thank you enough for what you're doing here. It's going to revolutionize the culture for sure and I really just think people are just not sure how or where it's all gonna go!
I know you guys didn't chose this life it chose you so here really isn't anything that anyone could do to change. Just gotta roll with it and see where it ends.
MLLHR
Nikki aka Hony
Handing around the microphone is dope. Organic. Authentic. 🫡
Man we got one last min at Walmart on our way to dinner. It was the best we could do at the time lol
@MondaysWithMooch I'm Playing. You guys are the truth. From Maine 207
Mooch, I just finished your book. Excellent and fast read....
You're one of those guys that makes me proud of my Italian heritage! Then I see this and I can tell your former brothers are in your heart as well as the two former HA members. So much good happening here..... Much respect....
It needed to be said!
Important topics and conclusions. Thanks for putting it all out there Mooch.
I think that's great you guys really showed class. And actually a true brotherhood learning about each other and the other clubs. Right independent and have fun be free
Love this. Good on you for putting this group together. Undoubtedly, there’s people applying pressure attempting to prevent these types of conversations but the community needs much more of this. How many people are in the grave or currently doing life sentences because of unresolved hatred for a different patch?
I agree. The common enemy is the government.
This is what it’s all about good get
Together Justin …this is how it starts !!! Positive
Hey Mooch! Just wanted to share my appreciation for all your incredible work. I'm an LCSW in Indiana and was really impressed when I found out you're in the SW field too. I've conducted a few therapy sessions on our bikes with clients who ride. Just turned our Bluetooths on and made it happen!
This is such an interesting sit down. I guess I'm still so brainwashed from 2007-2010 watching gangland, I feel like that show painted an overly dramatic picture of MC culture/rivalries. Would you ever consider doing a video about this?
Man that’s so cool! What a great idea. And for sure man I’ll start thinking about it
This is absolutely fu__ing beautiful!!! We... the underground... the Man of men... MUST come to an understanding!.. we are on the cusp of needing to protect our own ON our own... like minds all at the Table... speaking honestly with Respect and Integrity... fighting for what is WORTH fighting for.
Great Job Mooch bringing the brothers together hopefully a start to
Peace amongst clubs.
Mooch! You are a true inspiration for lots of us! Awesome guys that you have in this interview ! Let us know if you ever in Vancouver and you wanna ride adventure bikes! Much respect to you and your guests! 👊
Great To See a Topic That Needed Attention For Years..
Many L A Street Gang Are Posting Unity Meet Ups.. The Bike Culture Loses to The System, Because When Locked Up, The System Makes Money, But When We Are Out, We Stay Making Money.. See It's a Cycle to Keep Us In Check, Law Enforcement Has Job Security Due To Our Choices.. I'm a Street Pastor, & I am a Huge Positive Social Media Influencer That Rides & I'll Stand With Anyone That Can Break The Deadly Cycle That Loses Brother on Both Ends..
God Bless The Courage of These Men... 👏😎
I was in southern Oregon when The Mongols started the first charters. They were all over the newspapers and tv news, mostly fearmongering media hyperbole.
I asked an old Vago friend about them and he said ''I don't really know them well ,but Mooch is cool''.
People who were independents but closely linked to the Angels also said the same thing.
Coupla folks who had ''unfavorable '' feeling about the Mongols grudgingly admitted that Mooch was alright.
Can't wait to get ''The Ride of My Life''. I like the ''brotherhood of all the stuff we have in common ''aspect of your mission . Will keep listening. ''-Jack the Baptist''
Thank you for expressing your time.
Myself (love to ride, never patched), to sit beside a rider.... I feel they have hit bottom because I have. To listen & respect them with knowing their presence is grace.
To explain older members/younger & middle members. Will always stand tall with huge respect, because they walk stronger than anyone.
Outstanding sit down gentlemen. This could easily be a successful series of conversations. You da man mooch
Great show bro.....cant wait for more.
Good to see new content on the channel. Great episode
Keep up the good work! We have friends in almost every club and they really all are of the same cloth. Looking forward to the Patched Podcast.
Much love from San Diego to all 3 you guys!
Gawd dayum this was a good episode 👏🏽🤝🏽
This is amazing 👊👊👊
Bout time fellas… I’ve been around 81 for years… lots of friends… but damn!! It was always rough and dramatic… it’s good to see this!!
At 15:15... THIS is the mentality we need! Working together to get REAL SH_T done.
Good stuff mooch! Keep up talking with other club members
Be sure and watch Patched when it drops. It’s Jason and I sitting down with other ex club members
@@MondaysWithMoochyou're a good man Mooch, when u coming to NY state , bike show , book signing , hanging ? 😅😊
@@garyny4073 thank you homie. I was just there a few months ago. Always a good time out there.
Good chit Mooch 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Keep this series rockin'!
Thks for many new ideas!! I am so Ol school based as a wife & gf I just never thought I would hear this I can’t imagine hearing this in the 60’s. Things were really different then. I thk I would like to hear more & can learn a lot. Thks guys. AZ 🏍️
Amazing episode!! So happy to see the camaraderie and relatability between likeminded individuals!! Great, positive message and definitely breaking some boundaries!! Keep up such amazing work!!
Great job brother. Always enjoy your content.
Good shit Mooch.
Thank you for doing this.
This reminds me of military veterans, regardless of who you served, served with, or which side, you have more in common than you may think...
This is big. All 3 of these men will have a form of PTSD. Sitting alongside each other takes courage. Credit to all 3 men.
punctured lung
United We Conquer 🗡
As a veteran this ethos sums up the common denominators between those with the same beliefs and values.
Per Mare Per Terram, Qua Patet Orbis, Semper Fi 🦅🌎⚓️ 🤝🏻🇬🇧🇳🇱🇺🇸
Good shit Mooch!
If you take the patch away we are literally copy and paste of each other man. We all love the same thing. Very well said and this is a big thing, 3 men that should have been at "war" according to an old ass beef.
This is pretty cool ten years ago the people on stage would be enemies trying to kill each other ,these guys decided to man up and put there differences aside ...
GREAT STUFF GUYS AWESOME, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO COME TOGATHER THE GOV IS AFTER THE BIKER LIFESTYLE WE NEED TO STICK TOGATHER!
You are all brothers to me you all have the same passion love on 2 wheels & open highway ride hard & be free lads🙏👍
Times have changed. The 1% need to have an association where individual clubs can represent their brothers.
The C.O.C is just that. However the hate is deep.
This is great. I don’t ride with a lot of people, but I am curious of what the two revs going into the corner.
Just means to look over for a signal. Most of the time it is to switch lanes
What I learned is that cub create their own drama. I never experienced so many “men” creating drama in and out of the club.
Mooch i take it back, that mo has come in solid :D
Great video
United we stand divided we fall. Simple as that. It’s more important now than ever to find unity or we’re all fucked.
Very good podcast
This is some progressive stuff right here! Much Respect 💯💯
Much Respect
That transition back to life isn't easy. It's not like we had someone there to help us figure out how do get back into normal society. It took me years to adjust and I'm still not 100% ok.
Check out our new podcast called Patched over at @automotoentertainment we discuss post club life
No, what’s really cool it’s two houses angels and a mango is sitting down and talking like men and not acting like kids killing each other because of a patch and whatever rocker you’re wearing just imagine if these clubs came together I know they’ll never be buddy buddy, but they’re pretty much the same
Yeah, my dad was in a bike club and I never understood why you guys kill each other because you guys are the same people. Just imagine if these clubs would come together and put the guns down. They would be the strongest people in the world the bikers but the government wants some to be divided, because if the clubs ever come together, the cops will be in trouble, but I’m not understood why bike club kill each other when there’s enough territory for everybody
Money&power...
ML&R.
I was close to joining a club however politics and I saw some brothers aren’t your brothers. I still support them tho.
Righteous
It's always over a girl, the problem lies in leadership. Most of them have been through the violence. So it's ingrained in them . The average kid who just wants to ride, just wants to party and have fun. One cross word from a older guy , gets the kid ready to do anything to prove himself.
Hell yeah I’m an 81 supporter in SALEM OREGON
Thank you for checking out the channel. I mean this with all due respect. But I’ve always wondered why people choose to support a club that is not in their area and not one of the local clubs. What made you become a 81 supporter?
I think it's got a lot to do with how wrapped up HA is in American iconography. That and people want to be associated with something tuff without getting their hands dirty. These types chirp a lot when Im wearing a black and white support shirt but never really do anything beyond that. 681 SYLM
@@MondaysWithMooch #1 I lost My virginity to a HELLS ANGELS daughter here in SALEM OREGON when I was 17. #2 when I was a MARINE I got cut in as a traditional skinhead by another MARINE and his crew from New Hampshire. I then linked up at east coast OI fest 2008. Then when I got out of the military I prospected for FLS Salem and Eugene. I made it after a year. They treated me like complete shit and watched me get my head stomped in the concrete and a street fight behind the horse head in Eugene. I lived at the house with Cory, Brandon Livingston (the one my mom took care of) I met your brother Jeremy there he said what’s up skinhead back in 2008. Lucas yelled at me and threatened to beat me up when he was prospecting for the Mongols for no fucking reason. I got no respect for doing two combat deployments to Iraq 🇮🇶 in 2008 I remember RCBB came down and hung out with us and Eugene. The reason why I don’t want to hang out with the gypsy jokers is because my best friend growing up Chris Lindsey known as Donnie started prospecting for them, then got basically decapitated at the pub and grub in West Salem. I do not support the free souls because I am family friends with Mike Murdock‘s family and I have a huge history with all of them. the crazy thing is I actually have bodies on my soul and here I am getting yelled at by a mongo that does not.
I know who you are Justin I was born in Salem, Oregon 1986. I had a daughter with Shawn Reinhardt ‘s sister. I remember seeing you as a skinhead at punk rock shows when I was 14 years old, like defiance and casualties and conflict and all that stuff I thought you were really cool. I am now way up there 👁️ if U know what 👁️ mean. And I am getting ready go to George fox university to get My degrees.
That’s awesome you’re going to go to GFU. I really enjoyed it there and it’s a great program. Thank you for the explanation homie. Happy you’re doing well
It would work we all need to come together 81 supporter muleshoe tx
18:00 He’s spitting facts right there!!
George Christy speaks in detail about it being an ex HA that joined the Mongals and was involved with an HAs old lady.
That was the initial start, Chester green but Chester was an informant and snitched on the angels. That was likely more the root of the drama than a woman. The woman was likely just the straw
Hey brother idk how to reach you so I'll just ask here. Did y'all ever consider starting a chapter in Kentucky? Seemed like y'all had chapters all around us but not here. Or was there a certain reason if you don't mind me asking
Just didn’t have people on that area during the time I was around. I believe they have recently started a Kentucky chapter but not sure in what part
@@MondaysWithMooch oh that's wild if they did because west ky where I'm at has 81 and Louisville has the outlaws. I think they been around since the 60s or 70s there.
@@MondaysWithMooch thanks for responding man it means a lot to me
Solid !! Respect is everything 💪💪💪💪💪
Agreed Move forward.Respect.
Damn, you guys were like 20 miles from my where I'm from lol
Fuck yeah 👍
Many people stay in clubs when they shouldn't, because that cut can become a trauma bond.
Awesome interview....but u need more mics.!
Agreed this was very last minute and we had to use what we had
@@MondaysWithMooch All good!!! Great interview tho
Imagine the power if all clubs work cohesively...
I think it’s great to move forward. And if anyone can start the movement to achieve this is you guys along with guys like George Christie. I’d love to see Mooch and George sit down. Esp from 2 different generations.
I think in most clubs. At least my club is all Ole Ladies “property of” are off limits. And I think when organizations meet like the COC and club presidents should have sit downs. A rule should be all Ole Ladies regardless of clubs need to be off limits. It’s always from the beginning of time been women that get guys into trouble. Way before MC’s even existed.
And yes all clubs need to ban together to be a strong force against the one true enemy. The government. And it can’t be done if we’re thinking with the wrong head
Knowing ther friends are dead cuz of the people ur at dinners freinds are is hectic
It was the same for both sides
@@MondaysWithMooch it’s like a documentary I saw , USA nam vet , visits Vietnam n meets commander of vietcong division his division was fighting for his one year draft tour
Im 64 years old and been riding since I was 9, Ive heard the bad shit forever. It really is time to bury the hatchet. Sturing the pot will always be a pass time though.
The government will win absolutely,, but unity between clubs is the only way to fight them...
I met Lauren once back when mesa had bike nights in downtown mesa. Rad dude
They still do
@@Burzurk1987 they haven’t done it since Covid I live down the street
@@Jacobowitness They had ride night a few weeks ago. They have it the first Saturday of every month.
I was oab when I was young thought about prospecting but I don’t like being told what to do family first
2 revs right or left ?
Stupid question here; but once you leave the club can you converse with those club brothers that went “out bad”?
Only if you’re out bad as well. If you remain in good standings the same rules apply as if you were still active
There is something to be said for knowing who the real enemy is. I'm not in a 1% club and I would never imply that I know what's going on in any other club but I do know this. I have never been hassled or stepped to by a member of any MC but I've been hassled like a motherfucker from cops. The bullshit they pull with having GTF folders on every club out there and I mean every club. The most "gangster" thing I have done with my cut on was stole some gummy bears off the top of my frozen yogurt when I took my daughter for a ride to the yogurt barn. I have had several different police departments run my plates for no reason, stop me on the side of the road and try to tell me they don’t need a search warrant to search my bags because I'm a known associate of a criminal organization because the county sheriff has a GTF folder on every Club from Motorcycle Ministry Clubs to all the 1% clubs. It's not my place to tell men in another Club what they should do or not do but sometimes it would be good for us to remember that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Do I think all these MC are going to sit around a camp fire singing folk songs and talking hippy peace and love stuff? No. But do I think it would be a good idea for all the MC to at least put a hold on the beef and deal with the bigger issue of the government trying to fuck us all over? Yes. My unit when I was in the Marine Corps we had a saying. "We hate each other but we hate you more." Deal with your common enemy and you might find out you have more in common with that other Club than you thought.
You can’t tell me these two hell angels weren’t nervous riding with a mongo. They probably thought they were being set up. It would make me nervous because you know the history of these two clubs.
It was actually me, going solo to their event. But I’ve been talking to these guys for months and trust them. No fear on either side as we all had the best intentions
@@MondaysWithMoochtakes some guts man for you guys to be out there like this as human beings. Salute Mooch and to you all
The government is the problem, hit the nail on the head. They even pit member against member of the same club. These guys have a love for it but guess just got sick of the bs.
Unfortunately the guys in our community possess the ruin of many great men. Ego.
That’s an absolute fact and the main thing still driving all of this. Despite uneducated popular opinion it has nothing to do with money or territory and is all based on ego
Once again this is the problem with BIG clubs like this. Say it all the time IF you wanna join a club join a small club that doesnt care about the BS even tho politics kinda has its fingers in it all.
Orale! Welcome back Mooch.
Outcast, Wheels of Soul, Thunderguards, SinSlCity, and Thug Riders were able to have a national peace agreement at minimum ,a handshake
Fact
Tape that microphone to a grip or something, might be easier to pass and would look funny
We need new clubs. We all want brotherhood friendship fun not funerals ancient beefs etc we have 1%er we have 99s what we need are plane old two piece no state motorcycle clubs
Since it felt like I was with you ......what did we have for dinner ???
We did family style of steak ribs and prime rib
@@MondaysWithMoochstuffed shrimp with drawn butter , creamed spinach , mash pot ' s with gravy ? God im hungry now 😅😊
Think they’ll give ya lawsuits cuz ya had the emblem on thumbnail?
It’s not being used in a monitory capacity and instead as media stock. So should be legal
Lauren is a solid ass dude.
Govt is already winning. Too many bikers,not enough outlaws.
FTTW....can't slow down
what's the process of leaving one of these clubs? I can only imagine this would be an awkward conversation if you wake up one day and had enough of that life.
It’s actually pretty common for people to leave for various reasons. Contrary to popular belief, members can leave at any time. No one is forced to stay in